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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on

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Speaker 1: earlier this show where it's one Root Love, where you Live,

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Speaker 1: News Talks, they'd be.

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Speaker 2: Yes, good morning to you, Welcome to the day. It's wet.

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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, the twenty first of January. On the program today,

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Speaker 2: Thatch your building is not building anymore, so we're going

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Speaker 2: to look at its sale to a French company.

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Speaker 3: Next.

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Speaker 2: How hard is it to kick a gambling habit? And

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Speaker 2: is it harder than kicking drugs and alcohol? That story

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Speaker 2: in ten and the inquiry into Tom Phillips and has

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Speaker 2: four years in the bush with his children starts today.

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Speaker 2: What are they trying to find? We'll have Gavin Gray

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Speaker 2: from the UK as Prince Harry goes to court. We'll

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Speaker 2: have correspondence right around New Zealand News as it breaks

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Speaker 2: and you can have your say by giving me a text.

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Speaker 2: The number is ninety two ninety two. Small charge applies.

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Speaker 1: The agenda.

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Speaker 2: It's seven minutes after five on Wednesday the twenty first.

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Speaker 2: We start in Davos where world leaders are beginning to

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Speaker 2: arrive to the World Economic Forum and French President Emmanuel

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Speaker 2: mccron has been speaking.

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Speaker 4: Competition from the United States from America for trade agreements

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Speaker 4: at the undermine or exports interests, demand maximum concessions, and

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Speaker 4: openly aim to weaken and subordinate Europe, combined with an

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Speaker 4: endless accumulation of neutaries set out fundamentally unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: All sorts of people are there, including the Governor of California,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Newson, and he's been speaking and he's got quite

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Speaker 2: a different time.

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Speaker 5: I can't take this complicity people rolling over. I should

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Speaker 5: have brought up a bunch of knee pads for all

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Speaker 5: the world leaders. I mean, it's just the thak. The

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Speaker 5: Europeans should decide for themselves what to do. But one

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Speaker 5: thing they can't do is what they've been doing. And

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Speaker 5: they've been played, playing folks for fools. Wake up, Where

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Speaker 5: the hell has everybody been? Stop with this diplomacy?

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Speaker 2: Whoa Okay? Meanwhile, the President of the United States says,

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Speaker 2: I'm not backing down. Well, I don't think they're pushed

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Speaker 1: We have to have it.

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Speaker 2: They have to have this done.

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Speaker 3: They can't protect it.

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Speaker 6: Denmark.

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Speaker 7: They're wonderful people, and I know the leaders are very

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Speaker 7: good people, but they don't even go there. And you know,

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Speaker 7: because the boat when they're five hundred years ago and

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Speaker 7: dead love? That does he give you titled their property?

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Speaker 2: And guess who else is that? Davos, Sir David Beckham,

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Speaker 2: why no one knows. Of course, he's a family dramma

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Speaker 2: playing up back home. His eldest son, Brooklyn, is accusing

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Speaker 2: he wants no reconciliation. Beckham. His response short and sweet.

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Speaker 8: They make mistakes. Children are allowed to make mistakes. That's

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Speaker 8: how they learn. So that's what I tried to teach

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Speaker 8: my kids. But you know you have to sometimes let

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Speaker 8: them make those mistakes as well.

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Speaker 2: Good one, and I thank you. And it's nine minutes

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Speaker 2: after five.

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Speaker 1: Views and views you trust to start your day. It's

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Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof love, where

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Speaker 1: you live, news talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be so the weather, there's going to be the

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Speaker 2: news today and where I am it's been persistent all

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Speaker 2: night on top of saturated ground. So that's not good.

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Speaker 2: Pack your grab bag and be prepared and will keep

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Speaker 2: you up to date. Greenland. Now, it should be becoming

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Speaker 2: obvious to all that America wants to go it alone

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Speaker 2: in the world ever since his first term, the President

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Speaker 2: has said he feels that Europe gets a free ride.

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Speaker 2: He's keen to be rid of them. Now with his

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Speaker 2: wants Greenland so he can defend against Russian and Chinese

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Speaker 2: that could be reactivated for a couple of billion dollars,

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Speaker 2: and that is a lot less than buying Greenland. Not

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Speaker 2: only that, he could ask NATO to contribute to their rehabilitation,

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Speaker 2: some research. America has two point one million in the

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Speaker 1: That's more.

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Speaker 2: They spent three hundred and forty three billion dollars euro

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Speaker 2: But there are thirty people in NATO Europe. So to

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Speaker 2: be a pity to lose them because they're quite handy,

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Speaker 2: said Fletcher. Excuse me, Letcher Building is no longer building,

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Speaker 2: and this is quite a shock because they're one of

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Speaker 2: much great stuff. So why did they do it? And

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Speaker 2: is that the good thing?

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about this next, the news you need this

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Speaker 1: morning and the in depth analysis early edition with Andrew

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Speaker 2: That'd be so it's fourteen out to five in just

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Speaker 2: like that, Fletcher building sold its construction arm for at

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Speaker 2: least three hundred and fifteen million dollars to a French

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Speaker 2: multinational by the name of Vance Vanci Construction. The Overseas

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Speaker 2: Investment Office and Commerce Commission will have to approve the deal.

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Speaker 2: But what does this mean for the company. One of

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Speaker 2: our oldest John Tukey, is a professor of construction management

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Speaker 2: at aut enjoins me. Now, good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, sad day for an old company.

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Speaker 3: But was it the right move, well logical sell off

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Speaker 3: the most profit or one of the big high ticket

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Speaker 3: items of your family silver to raise the revenue, which

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Speaker 3: is fine. The question is going to be whether or

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Speaker 3: not the removal of the construction army is going to

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Speaker 3: significantly negatively affect the profitability and indeed the sales of

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Speaker 3: and the other side of the business, it becomes harder that.

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Speaker 2: Your building badly run or was it just unlucky.

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Speaker 3: Combination of circumstances. There were some very questionable decisions that

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Speaker 3: The quote old farts back in the day was a

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Speaker 2: Is this going to significantly shrink the company and its

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Speaker 3: It will significantly shrink the company. It will make the

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Speaker 3: company much more profitable because construction operations are not particularly profitable.

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Speaker 3: Part they generate a lot of cash flow, but they

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Speaker 3: they were run optimally, they most certainly generated a lot

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Speaker 3: to see iconic brand for New Zealand as a whole

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Speaker 2: I guess, I guess it only make money if they

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Speaker 2: now called Vancy. And so what do we know about

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Speaker 3: Big successful organization. It is tempting to say that they're

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Speaker 3: likely to want to molt the asset more than anything else.

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Speaker 3: You know. On the upside, they could be potentially bringing

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Speaker 3: But the downside, as I say, you know, just from

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Speaker 2: John Tukey from the aut and I thank you for

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Speaker 2: your time. And speaking of the aut they're doing a

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Speaker 2: new study into how hard it is to kick a

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Speaker 2: It is now five twenty a new study is having

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Speaker 2: to highlight just how hard it is to kick gambling.

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Speaker 2: The researchers from the aut shows a quarter of risky

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Speaker 2: how Bridget, so how I how to be lovely? So

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Speaker 2: how hard is it to kick a gambling habit?

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Speaker 10: Well, it can be hard, but also with a bit

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Speaker 10: of supporter can be quite simple as well. We have

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Speaker 10: a great tool around self exclusion which which is part

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Speaker 10: and that can be great for people in it. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: Has it become harder and harder to kick a gambling

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Speaker 2: habit because the gambling's come into your homes. We've seen

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Speaker 2: rises in online sports betting and casual betting sites around

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Speaker 2: the place, like Polymarket. You don't have to go into

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Speaker 2: a tab or a casino. You can sit at home

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Speaker 2: and waste your money just like that. Is this making

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Speaker 2: gambling a bigger problem these days?

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Speaker 10: I think so, and a younger problem. We're seeing more

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Speaker 10: and more young people presenting to our service seeking help.

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Speaker 10: It's great that they come in early. Yeah, so in

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Speaker 10: the past, you know, it might have been older people

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Speaker 10: that might have been gambling for ten or fifteen years

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Speaker 10: before they come and see us. Now we're seeing them

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Speaker 10: a bit earlier, but they're definitely been introduced to gambling.

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Speaker 10: Very young people on even children's apps for games are

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Speaker 10: getting introduced to gambling, and it's being normalized in a

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Speaker 10: way that people, you know, think gambling is just part

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Speaker 10: of the fun. Yeah, so we are seeing an increase

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Speaker 2: Can you say this, bridget None of this is news

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Speaker 2: to me. We've been saying this for years and we

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Speaker 13: There's a real push here to elevate the status of

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Speaker 14: More rain here as well. We'll develop this morning heavier later.

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Speaker 6: Little drizzley, little cloudy, but no touch would We're going

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Speaker 2: So tell me about the weather.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, let's talk about the weather. Look, the watchers and

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Speaker 15: warnings you're in effect across northern and central parts of

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Speaker 15: both islands.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 15: This includes the orange warnings for Northland, Coramandel Bay of Plenty,

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Speaker 15: which includes Rotador of course in Northern Gisbon District on Price. Now,

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Speaker 15: he's the NIMA Deputy Chief Executive. That's the National Emergency

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Speaker 15: Management Area, so he says that we can expect large

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Speaker 15: amounts of water in a very short period of time.

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Speaker 15: So unfortunately this is going to be including all those

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Speaker 15: areas that have been soaked as well. I really feel

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Speaker 15: for Northland particularly. There's a precautionary state of emergency now

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Speaker 15: that's been issued for Fannaday and the other areas. They're increasing,

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Speaker 15: they're monitoring just in case they need to do the same.

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Speaker 2: You know, everyone's talking about this crazy weather, but it

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Speaker 2: always rains in January and then it's lovely in February,

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Speaker 2: as you're quite right, I know, which is why I

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Speaker 2: worked all of January. But I've got February off, so

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Speaker 2: there lovely. I'd ask you about the weather, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 15: It's you know, And I've just got to say for

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Speaker 15: Aucklanders as well, it's not just the rain. Easterlies gale

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Speaker 15: in exposed places gusting one hundred kilometers per hour today.

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Speaker 15: That's very very strong. Batten down the heatches twenty four

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Speaker 15: is the high.

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Speaker 2: It is at seventeen to six. I wanted to talk

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Speaker 2: to you about Matt Carney, the Canadian Prime Minister, for

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Speaker 2: a while because I don't know if you noticed last

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Speaker 2: weekend he did a trillion dollar trade deal with China

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Speaker 2: and as part of it, they're going to let it

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand Chinese made EV's into the country annually. They're

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Speaker 2: going to put a six point one percent tariff on

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Speaker 2: them instead of what they had before, which was a

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent tariff, and this quote is expected to increase.

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Speaker 2: They're going to bring in about seventy thousand vehicles within

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Speaker 2: five years and what Canada gets in return. China's agreed

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Speaker 2: to lower tariffs on Canadian canola and seafood exports, and

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Speaker 2: the dealer is framed as part of about a big deal.

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Speaker 2: It's a trillion dollar trade deal. But what's important about this,

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Speaker 2: what's smart about this is the major break from US

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Speaker 2: policy as the US continues to impose extraordinarily high tariffs

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Speaker 2: on Chinese evs and how that affects the States, and

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Speaker 2: what Canada's done makes it very smart. The Canadian Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister Mark Karnei has decided that instead of fighting the States,

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Speaker 2: it's time to pivot, and the loser will be the

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Speaker 2: US motor industry. US made vehicles imported into Canada are

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Speaker 2: already down thirty six percent over the year because of

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Speaker 2: the tariff war. Karni is now replacing them with Chinese evs.

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Speaker 2: And say what you will about EV's people, I still

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Speaker 2: like to buy cheap cars. China's going to invest in

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Speaker 2: Canada with factories and jobs. It's just a smart deal

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Speaker 2: that's going to hurt the States the most. Mark Carney

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Speaker 2: is a former Bank of England governor. With Japan, he

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Speaker 2: organized a bonds crisis which affected the States when the

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Speaker 2: tariffs were first announced. Trump knows a real estate deal,

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Speaker 2: but this man knows how the whole world works. And

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Speaker 2: America needs to realize as they try to impose their

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Speaker 2: will that there are some very smart people in the room.

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Speaker 2: And wouldn't it be nice if we had a carnee

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. It's sixteen to.

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Speaker 1: Six international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the UK. Gavin greg good morning to you,

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Speaker 2: hi Baron. So the United States President has gone and

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Speaker 2: called the United Kingdom stupid and your Prime minister stupid

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Speaker 2: over their deal with the Chargos Archipelago. I've never heard

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Speaker 2: of the Chargos Archipelago. What is the deal and was

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Speaker 2: it stupid?

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Speaker 16: Well, this was all agreed back in May, and under

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Speaker 16: this huge agreement to critics would say, the UK is

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Speaker 16: leasing back something it already owns Mauritius off the Indian Ocean,

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Speaker 16: is claiming ownership of the Jagos Islands. It's important because

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Speaker 16: there is a UK US military base on one of

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Speaker 16: these islands called Diego Garcia, and plenty of people say that, well,

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Speaker 16: this deal is rubbish. Wise, our Prime Minister doing this,

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Speaker 16: or others are saying, well, he's doing the legal and

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Speaker 16: the loyal thing that they've taken advice and Britain doesn't

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Speaker 16: own it, so we've got to give it back now.

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Speaker 16: At the time, the Americans said it was a good deal.

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Speaker 16: And when I say the Americans, I do mean the

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Speaker 16: US President. Now he said, well, as we know that,

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Speaker 16: it is a straight stupidity. Add to that the mix

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Speaker 16: of course they're all going to Davos. Add to that

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Speaker 16: the mix that Donald Trump has effectively put on social

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Speaker 16: media for all to read a private text from the

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Speaker 16: French President Emmanuel Macron. And add to that the Europeans

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Speaker 16: pledging to play fire with fire when it comes to

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Speaker 16: these tariffs about Greenland.

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Speaker 1: What a big mess?

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Speaker 2: Can we just put them in a room and Davos

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Speaker 2: and just let them hit each other for a while

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Speaker 2: and then I'd agree to carry on because this is

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Speaker 2: getting this is getting ridiculous, But there we go. Okay. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: UK here has approved China's plans for a new embassy

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Speaker 2: in central London, which I presume is full of all

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Speaker 2: sorts of gadgets.

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Speaker 16: Yes, it's absolutely massive, and it's now near Tower Bridge

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Speaker 16: and the famous Tower of London. But it is not

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Speaker 16: because of its looks that people are so concerned about it.

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Speaker 16: It is because it is so huge and there are

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Speaker 16: lots of rooms that seem to have no particular use,

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Speaker 16: and that's led to fears by some that Beijing will

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Speaker 16: use this as a huge spy center. The corner of

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Speaker 16: the building runs very close to some underground cables which

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Speaker 16: carry all the financial data across the city of London.

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Speaker 16: There is concern in there will be eavesdropping on those,

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Speaker 16: and concerns as well that some ex Hong Kongers who

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Speaker 16: are living here in the UK in freedom but often

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Speaker 16: in secret, are going to be rounded up and housed

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Speaker 16: in that embassy for internation. Those are the claims of

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Speaker 16: the allegations. China says that's nonsense. But now add to

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Speaker 16: that typewrote that we just talked about Sekir Starmer not

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Speaker 16: playing it as hard as the EU was about these tariffs,

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Speaker 16: wanting to remain friends with Donald Trump. Now seeing that

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Speaker 16: friendship blow up by that quote of great stupidity, what

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Speaker 16: will Donald Trump say about allowing China such a huge

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Speaker 16: embassy in the UK. Well, I'm sure we'll find out.

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Speaker 16: On truth Social in the next few houts.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Kevin Gray from the UK, I thank you. Ticked through,

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Speaker 2: of course, says Trump knows who Canny is, do you well?

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Speaker 2: I do. Actually I've read his book. Have you read

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Speaker 2: his book? Mac Canney has written a book called Values.

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Speaker 2: It's a great read and it's about actually having values

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Speaker 2: while also having a neoliberal economy while having capitalism. And

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Speaker 2: it's a great book. Can I suggest it's in all libraries?

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Speaker 2: Mac Canny Values, have a read, I have.

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Speaker 1: News talks it'd be it is ten to six.

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Speaker 2: Now here's a question. Did official agencies fast enough to

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Speaker 2: save Tom phillips children from the mattercop of Bush? That

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Speaker 2: is the question. A inquiry. An inquiry is starting today

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Speaker 2: aims to find out and so Phillips said his children

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Speaker 2: successfully hid from police for four years, in which time

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Speaker 2: police say that no contact was ever made. That is

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Speaker 2: until a faithful shootout came the life of Tom Phillips

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Speaker 2: in September, with all his children found safe. So doctor

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Speaker 2: Anna Marie Brennan is a senior lecturer at the University

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Speaker 2: of Wicato and joins me. Now, Anna Marie, good morning to.

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Speaker 17: You, good morning.

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Speaker 2: What are the questions having? It's a pleasure. What are

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Speaker 2: the questions that this inquiry needs to answer.

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Speaker 17: There are three central questions here. Firstly, whether parenting orders

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Speaker 17: were properly enforced by our state agencies, whether police and

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Speaker 17: Child Protection services discharged their statary duties. Was New Zealand's

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Speaker 17: obligations under international law observed here? And then whether intur

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Speaker 17: agency coordination massive those thresholds as well. So there's a

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Speaker 17: number of questions that this inquiry will be looking at,

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Speaker 17: and especially why it took so long to recover these children.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the basic question, is it was international law involved.

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Speaker 17: New Zealand is a member of the United Nations Convention

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Speaker 17: and the Rights of the Child, and under that convention

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Speaker 17: the best interests of the child are at the center

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Speaker 17: of all decision making. So New Zealand is obliged to

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Speaker 17: protect children from harm, neglect and abuse. It must make

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Speaker 17: clear as well that children deprived of their family environment

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Speaker 17: must be given special protection in the systems. And the

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Speaker 17: case of Tom Phillips is absolutely unprecedented. And these are

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Speaker 17: bind emmitments, they are not aspirational.

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Speaker 2: Goals, Okay, I understand it. And so what agencies are

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Speaker 2: accused of abrogating their duties and leading this get away

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Speaker 2: for so long.

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Speaker 17: Well, firstly is the question about whether agencies like the

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Speaker 17: police and our Tomriki, whether the operations in isolation, did

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Speaker 17: they coordinate over this time period to try and find

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Speaker 17: its children. And essentially this inquiry is trying to expose

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Speaker 17: those systemic vulnerabilities so that in a case as extraordinary

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Speaker 17: and as on precedent as this does not happen to

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Speaker 17: happen again.

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Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, and I thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: That is doctor Anne Anna Maria Brennan, and she is

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Speaker 2: a senior lecturer at the University of Waikato School of Law.

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Speaker 2: Certainly the kids have there's a level of secrecy to

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Speaker 2: protect them as well, but it will be very interesting

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Speaker 2: to know just what really happened and who might have

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Speaker 2: turned to blind eye and who didn't have an eye

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Speaker 2: at all. And that's starting today and it's seven to six.

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Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeart Radio Early edition

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Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickens and One Root Love where you Live.

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Speaker 1: News talks had been.

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Speaker 2: Weddie Mike Greetings. Don't you wish you were still on

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Speaker 2: holiday right now without weather like this?

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Speaker 18: So fully enough, I've enjoyed being back this week. Oh

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Speaker 18: we know that I thoroughly enjoyed it. I think it's

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Speaker 18: good and I'm not getting over the exercised. About the weather,

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Speaker 18: that's probably not politic to say it in certain parts

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Speaker 18: of the country at the moment, but I think the

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Speaker 18: rain's good for a lot of people. We forget about

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Speaker 18: that side of the equation over summer.

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Speaker 2: We always forget that January is wet. You know, when

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Speaker 2: I did the Summer Breakfast show, right, the boss comes

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Speaker 2: to me and goes, Dick and see, you'll love this.

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Speaker 2: You know you're going to have to work on Boxing Day,

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Speaker 2: You're going to have to work on New Year's Day.

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Speaker 2: It's just going to have to work all the way through.

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Speaker 2: But then you work all January, but then you get

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Speaker 2: February when the weather is so much better.

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Speaker 3: Is where it's at.

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Speaker 18: The seasons have changed. This morning, we're going to celebrate

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Speaker 18: the services sector, which I'm excited about because the services sector,

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Speaker 18: most people don't seem to understand us about seventy percent

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Speaker 18: of any given economy. It's basically everything. You know, it's

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Speaker 18: when you go to the cafe anyway, it's back and positive.

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Speaker 2: Is it a nineteen percent or something like that. It's

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Speaker 2: quite a good number.

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Speaker 18: It's a very good number. It's up four point something

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Speaker 18: and it's back and positive for the first time in

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Speaker 18: a couple of years. So, as far as I can

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Speaker 18: work out, it's the last piece in the puzzle. So

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Speaker 18: you had the GDP that came out, you've got the

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Speaker 18: broad confidence numbers which look good. Then you had the

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Speaker 18: manufacturing a week or so back, and now you've finally

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Speaker 18: got services. So in other words, every aspect of the

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Speaker 18: economy is back in positive territory. So that's a good

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Speaker 18: sign in Worlworth.

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Speaker 2: So I think the answer is in the name services.

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Speaker 2: They've got a service, they're functioning.

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Speaker 18: Anything to do with it, whatever, whatever, Services is a

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Speaker 18: massive chunk of the going to be that's what SO

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Speaker 18: will do that. And the election date, of course, which

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Speaker 18: I'm assuming there is no member of the seven I'm not.

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Speaker 18: Are you excited? Couldn't kill this. It's it's going to

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Speaker 18: be no end of it's November seventh, I just or thereabouts. Yeah,

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Speaker 18: I mean if it's the Saturday, then sure, it's.

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Speaker 2: Going to be as late as possible so they can

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Speaker 2: get as many green shoots as possible.

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Speaker 3: That'll be right.

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Speaker 18: That's how it works. Anyway, that and many other matters great.

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Speaker 2: My thanks for producer Kenzie. Also to Samuel like some

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Speaker 2: of a breakfast producer who set the show up. I'll

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Speaker 2: be back tomorrow, have fun. Stay dry.

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