1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Have you ever wondered why all these new townhouses that 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: are popping up everywhere just so ugly? You're not alone 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: if you're wondering that. One christ Church developer Reckons Auckland's 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: developments are quote awful, and he's bringing his colonial style 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: new builds to the North. Managing director of Brooksfield's Homes, 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Vincent Holloway, is with us. 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: Hey, Vincent, hi, here the how are you very well? 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Thank you? 9 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: Now? 10 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Your houses are beautiful. Why aren't developers doing this already? 11 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. It's probably something to do with a 12 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: lack of imagination, I'd say, but. 13 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Really, I mean, because all you have to do is 14 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: look around, you know, Point Sheev, Grayland, Pons and b. 15 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: You don't have to imagine that this stuff has been 16 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: built before, So why not just replicate it? 17 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly what we do in a sense. And 18 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: when we've started designing and selling homes in Auckland, and 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: when we've gone up there, we see that a lot 20 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: of people want to be living in those areas like 21 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: Point Chief, Grayland, Pons and Bee with the cute timberweatherboard villa. 22 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: It's obviously out of reach for a lot of people. 23 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: In terms of price, but people are wanting that in 24 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: a home, so you know, we aim to do that 25 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: in a smaller scale and a cheaper area. 26 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: Basically, the way that you build your townhouses in the 27 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: old colonial style is it perhaps more expensive than what 28 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: the other developers are doing in the styles that they are. 29 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have thought. So, you know, the whole reason 30 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: that a classical or a colonial home looks the way 31 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: it is is for two reasons. The first, they cared 32 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: about the appearance and spend a week bit more time 33 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: and energy on that. But the other reason is because 34 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: they lacked a lot of the time, in places like 35 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: New Zealand and Australia, really skilled tradesmen and money. So 36 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: when you actually look at an old Ponsonby villa, it's 37 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: extremely simple in the way that it's usually you know, 38 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: a box with possibly a projecting bay window. So they're 39 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: a very simple house in the way of construction because 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: they're just effectively a box. But they're very pretty because 41 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: where they were able to, you know, they spend a 42 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: little bit of money and time on detail. 43 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: Are you going to be limited in where you can 44 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: re you know, build these houses to maximize your income 45 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: because they are single story and in a lot of 46 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: places in Auckland now we're going. 47 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: Up, well, a lot of our homes we do do 48 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: a lot of single story homes, and we do single 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: story homes with rooms in the attic as well, so 50 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: that you know, they'll look like a single story home 51 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: but actually two Yeah, but we also do and the 52 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: ones an orphan that we're doing as well in point 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: sheer of a two story. So there are slightly different 54 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: typology than an exactly, you know, exactly a bay villa. 55 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 2: They are a bit smaller, so one hundred to about 56 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty square meters, and they're also in 57 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: a smaller section as well, so we're not too limited. 58 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: And I mean the classical classical architecture as well comes 59 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: in many shapes and forms. I mean, you know, you 60 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: go to Rome or London or Paris and you'll see, 61 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: you know, five six story classical townhouses that are absolutely 62 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: beautiful as well. 63 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: Do you reckon? This is the trick to perhaps getting 64 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: people on board is a little bit more densification, is 65 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: that you're able to densify while building in the style 66 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: of the suburb. 67 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: Definitely. I think if you look around a lot of 68 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: the nimbees have a problem with the ugliness if you 69 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: really get into it, not the densification. It's actually really 70 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: great to live in a suburb with a diverse mix 71 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: of people and more people that does good things for 72 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: people that already live there. I think the issue is 73 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 2: in the issue I have with my neighbors as well, 74 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: is that the people cotly building new homes now are 75 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: building horrifically ugly things, and no one wants to live 76 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: next door to one. And I understand completely. 77 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah to hey, listen, Vincent, thank you very much. I 78 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: really appreciate your time. It's Vincent Holloway of Brooksfield Homes. 79 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: If you look, do me a favor. Do me a favor. 80 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: Go and look at Brooksfield Homes and the colonial style 81 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: townhouses they're doing, and you'll know what I mean when 82 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: you see them. They're sort of like three little, three 83 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: little villas stuck together. Now, we're not long ago. Actually, 84 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: before babies, I was living in a place very similar 85 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: to that. We owned a place and ponds of bee 86 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: like that. Had to sell it obviously because it was 87 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: like child killer situation. The steepness of the stairs and 88 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, there's no yard for the kids to run 89 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: around and stuff like that that would have been built 90 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: it from if my memory serves me correctly, around the 91 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: turn of the century, So maybe like nineteen I want 92 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: to say, nineteen hundred, maybe nineteen teen at a push, right, 93 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: and it basically looks exactly like what Vincent is building. 94 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: Go and have a look at it, and then tell 95 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: me if you have a problem with that popping up 96 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: next door, because I would have no problem at the 97 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: beautiful little townhouses, much more pretty, as he says, than 98 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: anything else he's seeing going up at the moment. 99 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 100 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: news Talks. 101 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 102 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.