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Speaker 1: Get another tweak to tourism. This time we've got a

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Speaker 1: visa waive, a trial scheme for Chinese tourists if they're

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Speaker 1: traveling through Australia. So Aaron Hunter's a lawyer at McVeigh

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Speaker 1: Fleming who specialized in immigration law. Aaron, morning to.

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Speaker 2: You, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Does this work? Is this a game changer or a.

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Speaker 2: Tweak or what? I think there's probably somewhere in between.

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Speaker 2: It basically means those have been through the Australian process

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Speaker 2: who Australia have trusted with a visit of visa or

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Speaker 2: a student visa or a week visa or a punch of visa,

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Speaker 2: they can either come to Zeland as part of their

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Speaker 2: hobbdays or if they're based on Australia, come across here

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Speaker 2: as a base of their hobbidays.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so yes, you would do the paperwork if you

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Speaker 1: were going to be a student or working there. I

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Speaker 1: get that part. Would you do the paperwork if only

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Speaker 1: you're a tourist and then go, well, since I've done Australia,

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Speaker 1: I'll flip through to New Zealand or not, or we

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think it's we don't know. I think You're probably

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Speaker 2: going to have some sort of stats to those who

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Speaker 2: will come to Australia and go, wow, these islands justin

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Speaker 2: it nearby. We'll get better try as well. Probably just

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Speaker 2: for the sake of the small man of costs for US,

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Speaker 2: Australia aready on the league work for us effectively, it

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Speaker 2: gives them another chance to bring in more tourists.

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Speaker 1: Because what is the Australian If I'm filling out of

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Speaker 1: visa for Australia as a tourist is as arduous as

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Speaker 1: it is or has been for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Probably slightly more so. Wow, immigrations Zealand are actually reasonably

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Speaker 2: nice when it comes to dealing with the applications. Australia

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Speaker 2: not so much or a bit more hardlined. So I can

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Speaker 2: get on Australian visa and I think we can pretty

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Speaker 2: much trust that these people have been vetted quite quite well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, because part of this whole discussion is the

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Speaker 1: impediment that that is to us boosting our tourism numbers

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Speaker 1: back to what they were, are we doing the right thing?

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Speaker 1: In other words, you know, instead of just saying welcome,

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Speaker 1: please come, and you know the PaperWorks required in other words,

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Speaker 1: because they're Chinese.

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Speaker 2: I think it's part of the what one good step?

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Speaker 2: It's one if I make many steps of bringing the

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Speaker 2: Chinese marketbacks in New Zealand that of course lacks, and

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Speaker 2: going to China marketing all those sorts of areas, it

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Speaker 2: just takes about one lest area that you're currently in place.

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Speaker 1: See the traveling. I know for a within the region,

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Speaker 1: the this is within their region, and I know they're

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Speaker 1: going to Europe. Do those countries make the paperworkers arduous

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Speaker 1: as we do or do we need to do something different?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I think perhaps we could be a bit less

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Speaker 2: hardline than some of the applications. Definitely not have an

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Speaker 2: open boarder at all. An Engta to or China would

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Speaker 2: be the high risk of those other staying. But perhaps

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Speaker 2: seeing some point somewhere in between, we have removed a

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Speaker 2: lot of the requirements of translations. They fact that those

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Speaker 2: are quite typict done in China. The perhaps needs to

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Speaker 2: be a softening a little bit to the general visit

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Speaker 2: at easier.

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Speaker 1: I'd tend to agree. Aaron, appreciate your expertise. Aaron Hunt,

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Speaker 1: who's an immigration lawyer, we've talked to like some numerous

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Speaker 1: times about this so at least they're slowly but surely

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