1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: And Oliver Peterson ABC Perth Radio Drive presenters with us 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,279 Speaker 1: Hello Ollie, Hello. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: Head us to get the kick cats. How about those 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 2: tiny little Cabri daring look Easter eggs? They are the best? 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: Do you get them over the ditch? Yeah? 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: This is I mean, it's not Antarctica. We do get 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: the little East eggs? 8 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Okay, good. I just didn't know if you're celebrating East 9 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: of this year at reaching you and you or not 10 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: that sort of just one look. 11 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: Hey, are but you're meaning the ones that are completely 12 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: solid day. 13 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, those little tiny ones, but they are 14 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: so addictive. They're the best things in the world. 15 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: I actually like the ones that are hollow, that are 16 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: because I know the ones you mean, and those ones 17 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: are awesome, but they really do pack a punch. What 18 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: about the ones that are the size of a normal 19 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: egg but hollow? 20 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: Are you talking about your personality being hollow? Are you 21 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: hit up? 22 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: Hush jays, hush? What are you called sandylands. 23 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: By audition? 24 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: Hey, listen, tell me about Daisy Freeman. What's going on? 25 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: Well, this is, you know, good news. Let's be perfectly 26 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 2: frank about that. Because of course Desmond Philby is dead 27 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: and that's seven months after he allegedly shot dead two 28 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: police officers executing that search warrant that his family is 29 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: thus in Victoria. Now, police, as you heard there in 30 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: the world wise, confirmed they've killed a man at a 31 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: property in northeast Victoria. They say they believe it is freemant, 32 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: but they're going to go through that formal identification process. 33 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: Now this textbook professionals describe to itata and he's been 34 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: on the run for seven months. But this is the kicker, right. 35 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: He has been found hiding in a container on a 36 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: property and he emerged possibly wrapping a booner shooting at 37 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: offices this morning. So they were several hours of negotiating 38 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 2: between freemen and police before the shooting. But they would 39 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: only say the fugitive was armed and he has been 40 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: shot dead as a result of that operation this morning. 41 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: So no doubt, as you heard there in the world wise, 42 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 2: the formal id edification has to take place. But on 43 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: the run for seven months and obviously finding there till 44 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: the very end that it is there, I say a 45 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: good results and potentially justice has been service here. 46 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so do we know I mean obviously the people 47 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: on the property were sheltered Ringham. 48 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, well that's what the police are going to 49 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: Our pro was he helped by other people that they believe. 50 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: At this stage police say it's likely that he was, 51 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: because he's been tracked down now several hours drive north 52 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 2: of where this original shooting took place seven months ago. 53 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: Police officer is obviously pretty relieved by all of this. 54 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: He's been on a run since August twenty six and 55 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 2: that morning, you'll remember, had ten officers went to his 56 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: property that day where officers Neil Thompson and that in 57 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: the wood Halter were shot dead and a third officer 58 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: was seriously injured. 59 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: Okay, now, do you think it's a smart move for 60 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: your government to have cut the fuel excise? 61 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they have to be seen to be doing something. 62 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 2: Do I think it's smart? Is it going to result 63 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: in there being more fuel available tomorrow Australians? No, But 64 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: obviously the narrative, particularly from the albert Easy government, has 65 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: been about being on the side of Australian's header and 66 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: we were going to cost of living crisis. So if 67 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: they didn't do that, and it's going to say to 68 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: you roughly ten bucks a tank of fuel at the moment. 69 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: It all helps with the narrative that inflation is going 70 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: to go but the government's doing something about it now. 71 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: Very interestingly, this was put forward late last week by 72 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: the opposition and I can tellue here the feedback right 73 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: around the country has been well, yeah, good, but again 74 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: it's not going to solve the supply issues. We've now 75 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: got these four levels of a collective approach towards fuel. 76 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: One being planned to prepare to keeping Australia moving, which 77 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: is our current settings. But so we're going to meet 78 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: go towards taking targeted actions, which I'm assuming here means 79 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: we're going to start rationing fuel. Let's be blunt about this. 80 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: And then four protecting Google services for all Australians, which 81 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 2: probably means you can't drive anymore, mate, You've got to 82 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: catch a bus or a train. Interestingly, Victoria today has 83 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: also made the move to cut all fees on public 84 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: transport for the next three months, so public transport is free. 85 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: But keeping in mind in Victoria they're heading towards the 86 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: state election later this year. New South Wales won't do that. 87 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: A Queensland's got fifty cents fairs, Tasmani has gone free 88 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: public transport. I think it's a dollar eighty or two 89 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: dollars eighty here at Percy could tell I drive. I 90 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: don't actually catch public transport at the moment, but that 91 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: is something which is being encouraged now that all states 92 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: cut the fees for public transport and make it free. 93 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: But you're finding even where I am here in person, 94 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: you can't get on a bus or a train and 95 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: they're packed anyway. 96 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fair point the problem. Listen. Can I 97 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: just ask you about this a little bit more though, 98 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: because part of the problem with cutting the fuel ex 99 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: size is that you then basically just increase the demand 100 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 1: for fuel, right, So the price going up is supposed 101 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: to constrain demand a little bit, so it should be 102 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: helping you preserve what supply you've got. He's just making 103 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: this harder for himself, isn't he. 104 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: I would think so, because you know you again, and 105 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's the same in New Zealand. You go 106 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: to places like Bunnings and you cannot buy a Jerry Can, 107 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: you cannot buy a Vestl at the moment's toll the fuel. 108 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: Everyone is just holding this, you know, spoilt paper. COVID 109 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: two point oh that's what's happening here at the moment, 110 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: and you're right, if it becomes a little bit cheaper, 111 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: it's just kind of encourage the horners more than anything. 112 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: So look, maybe we do need to be harsh about it. 113 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: Maybe you do need to move to rational. Now you 114 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: know you can only go to a fuel station and 115 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: buy forty bucks worth a fuel. If that means that 116 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: you have to go to five different fuel stations. For 117 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: the hoarders, well you know it feel luck and if 118 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: they've got that much time in their lives to go 119 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: and spend hours now the day holding fuel. But now 120 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: you spot on it again, it does not address the 121 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 2: supply the government saying that they're frantically working with foreign 122 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: powers at the moment to release more fuel and to 123 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: prioritize Australia in the fuel supply chain. But again we 124 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: heard all this through COVID. We were going to get 125 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 2: masks first, we were going to get COVID shots first, 126 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: and we just send a fall down a queue. Yeah, 127 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: so did we. 128 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: Hey, Oliver, thank you very much appreciated Oliver Peters and 129 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: ABC Perth Radio Drive presenters 130 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: For more from Heather Duplessy, Allen Drave listen live to 131 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: News Talk sai'd Be from four pm weekdays, or follow 132 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio