1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: So victims of Lake Alice have finally found out how 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: much COMPO they're going to be getting. It's either a 3 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: one off, one hundred and fifty thousand dollars rapid payment, 4 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: or they can have their case heard and judged and 5 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: potentially even get more. The lead coordination Minister Erica Stanford 6 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: is with us Erica. 7 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: Hello, good morning now, Erica. 8 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty thousand is more than has ever 9 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: been paid out to victims like this, but it sounds 10 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: like some of them are disappointed because they were expecting millions. 11 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: Is that right? 12 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: That is right? And I said yesterday no amount we 13 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: are ever going to pay will ever make up for 14 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: what happened to children at Lake Alice. And I also 15 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: said yesterday that I know that that announcement changed many lives, 16 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: and there are many people are extraordinarily grateful. But look, 17 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: we always knew that there was some that we were 18 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: going to let down. And that's a hard part of 19 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: this job. 20 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: How did you get to one fifty thousand? How did 21 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: you decide that? 22 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: Again, really hard call to make because this is really 23 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: the first time this has happened. There is no precedent 24 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: around the world. There are some other countries who have 25 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: paid out for torture, but only a couple very very 26 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: different circumstances, and they were adults, and so that's similar 27 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: sort of amounts. But really it is a tough call 28 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: to make because it just isn't a precedent at all. 29 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: Is it going to be enough? Are you going to 30 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: have enough money? Because it looks to me like you've 31 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: maybe budgeted for about one hundred and fifty victims. There 32 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: may be as many as two hundred out there. 33 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: We again, we don't know how many there are. We 34 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: have sort of looked at around about one hundred and 35 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 2: twenty one hundred and fifty, but we really aren't aren't sure. 36 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: But I think with that amount we have budget enough. 37 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: And that includes the arbiter and all of the costs 38 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: as well. 39 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: Okay, now does the set of precedent for anybody else 40 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: who's caught up in the state abuse inquiry as to 41 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: how much they're going to get? 42 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: No, we wanted to be very clear yesterday. This is 43 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: entirely different and entirely separate. Most of these Lakelis victims 44 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: have already received their compensate or there your compensation already 45 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: their redress, I should say, And this is a new 46 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: material circumstance because the state has acknowledged that they were tortured, 47 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: and that triggers a separate thing, and this is we 48 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: looked at this separately. There are separate things that we considered. 49 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: We wanted to make it very clear yesterday in my 50 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: remarks that this will have no bearing on what we 51 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: think about in the future. 52 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Brilliant, Hey, Eric, thank you very much, really appreciated. Eric Stanford, 53 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: Lead Coordination Minister. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, 54 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, 55 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.