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Speaker 1: Digging through the spin spin to find the real story boring.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Duper Clan Drive with one New Zealand let's

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Speaker 1: get connected news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today,

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Speaker 3: we'll have a chat about these new rules designed to

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Speaker 3: get the economy going. We'll talk to the RMA Minister.

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Speaker 3: Also head off to the USA to find out what's

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Speaker 3: happened to Elon Musk and main freight boss Dom Braid

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Speaker 3: on why We're down, why the US is down, and

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Speaker 3: why Ozzie is up. Heather Dupercyla, Right, let's talk about

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Speaker 3: these kids who have been born here but have no

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Speaker 3: right to be here because the parents are overstayers. Seems

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Speaker 3: to me a total no brainer to give these guys citizenship.

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Speaker 3: I mean, set aside even the bleeding heart stuff that

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Speaker 3: is relevant, but set that aside. Just from a purely

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Speaker 3: economic perspective. We should be helping them stay here, shouldn't we,

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Speaker 3: Because I mean, we've invested huge amounts of money into

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Speaker 3: these kids. We've educated them sometimes all the way up

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Speaker 3: to the age of eighteen. We've given them free healthcare,

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Speaker 3: we've given them whatever stuff we do for kids in

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Speaker 3: this country. So surely it only makes sense to let

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Speaker 3: them stay here, let them work here, let them pay

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Speaker 3: their taxes and essentially pay the country back. But also

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Speaker 3: we can't afford to kick these young workers out. I mean,

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Speaker 3: what have we been talking about on this show for

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Speaker 3: nearly a week now. We've been talking about the rising

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Speaker 3: cost of superannuation. It's completely unaffordable. Apparently we used to

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Speaker 3: have seven workers supporting everyone pension and now we only

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Speaker 3: have two and a half workers. We can't carry on

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Speaker 3: like that. If we accept that to be true, and

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Speaker 3: it is, then we cannot afford to lose these young workers.

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Speaker 3: We need every single decent one that we can keep here. Now.

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Speaker 3: Decent is an important distinction. I mean, obviously we don't

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Speaker 3: want to keep the rascals because they'll just be a

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Speaker 3: net cost to New Zealand. So here's a very simple test, right,

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Speaker 3: if the kid and their parents haven't fallen foul of

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Speaker 3: like traffic finds aside and so on. If they've largely

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Speaker 3: been good, tax paying, law abiding people, then keep them

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Speaker 3: because think about it as like this as well. At

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Speaker 3: some point most of those parents, if not all, all

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Speaker 3: of them will have been given a visa, so they'll

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Speaker 3: have been wanted by this country. They will have passed

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Speaker 3: some sort of a test. They've just overstayed. So I

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Speaker 3: think give them an amnesty, both the kids and their parents,

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Speaker 3: because surely, purely based on economics, we have invested too

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Speaker 3: much into them to give a potentially good taxpayer to

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Speaker 4: Despite Heather Dupless, then two nine two.

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Speaker 3: Is the text number. Standard text fees apply. Now there

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Speaker 3: are calls on the government to back off changing the

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Speaker 3: law to protect Bagazzi banks. One hundred and seventy thousand

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Speaker 3: kiwis are in a class action against ASB and A

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Speaker 3: and Z. Allegedly these two banks breached respondible responsible lending regulations.

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Speaker 3: The only trouble is the government's about to pass a

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Speaker 3: piece of legislation that will unwind all of that. Scott

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Speaker 3: Russell is leading the class action and is with us. Now, Hey, Scott, hey, Heather,

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Speaker 3: why is the government changing the law to wipe these

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Speaker 4: It's a good question.

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Speaker 5: We can't understand that either aims in ASB A is

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Speaker 5: saying that generally is under the law potentially present an

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Speaker 5: substantial risk to the economy. What we're saying is that's

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Speaker 5: just simply rubbish. There's no evidence of that, and it

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Speaker 5: seems the suspicion is that by amending the law, it's

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Speaker 5: just National helping out the Australian banks in this case.

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Speaker 3: Have the banks just lobbied them hard.

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Speaker 5: Seems to be the way. We've actually sought information from

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Speaker 5: rejected that that's been withheld from us. So we're not

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Speaker 5: able to see why this law has actually come into place.

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Speaker 3: How much is each of these people You've got one

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Speaker 3: hundred and seventy thousand kiwis in this class action. How

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Speaker 3: much is each of them potentially standing to get from

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Speaker 5: Well, I current representative plaintiffs a dueu between sort of seven, ten,

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Speaker 5: fifteen thousand dollars each depends on the size of your

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Speaker 5: Kiwis are due and compensation from their banks.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's hundreds of million dollars, millions of dollars split

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Speaker 3: between the two banks. Yeah, that's correct. I mean, what's

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Speaker 3: the existential threat those guys make what like a billion

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Speaker 5: Well, that's what we're trying to work out as well,

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Speaker 5: because when you look at their balance sheets, they're making

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Speaker 5: back into the Australian parent companies, which actually make almost

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Speaker 3: Okay, what are the chances, like, how long have you

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Speaker 3: got to fight this before this piece of legislation has passed?

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Speaker 5: What was inter just introduced to the House and it's

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Speaker 5: going to select committees shortly. So we're going to fight

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Speaker 5: don't think it's it's fair and we don't think it

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Speaker 5: It's not what New Zealand's about.

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Speaker 3: What are the chances do you think who's the minister?

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Speaker 3: Is it Scott Simpson?

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Speaker 5: Now Scott Simpson?

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Speaker 3: Commerce what are the chances that he backs off?

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Speaker 5: I think pretty high. It doesn't even reading the Parliamentary

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Speaker 5: the legislation in Parliament it says retrospectivity should not be

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Speaker 5: should not apply to any law. And they actually, in

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Speaker 5: this new law have put in a little clause that

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Speaker 5: says the normal rules under the legislation don't apply to this.

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Speaker 3: All right, Scott, listen, thanks very much. I really appreciate

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Speaker 3: you talking us through a best of luck fighting that,

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Speaker 3: because it seems a no brainer. This is this bizarre,

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Speaker 3: isn't it, Scott Russell, Director at Russell van Hout. Goodness.

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Speaker 3: because this seems like a weird one that it's gonna

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Speaker 3: it comes down to it's simply you're taking the side

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Speaker 3: of four well, in this case, two Australian banks against

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Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy thousand Kiwis, how do you justify that?

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Speaker 3: I'd love to know the answer, anyway, Listen on to

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Speaker 3: something else. I don't know how the people of Mission

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Speaker 3: Bay are going to take this, but McDonald's has just

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Speaker 3: been given permission to build a restaurant there. Yep, yep,

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Speaker 3: I know it's big deal.

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Speaker 7: For that.

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Speaker 3: They don't have anything like that. They are a McDonald's

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Speaker 3: free zone in Mission Bay, Iraqi. Really didn't want it.

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Speaker 3: There were three hundred and eighty one submissions. Three hundred

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be traffic. Traffic is traffic, I feel is

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Speaker 3: an acknowledgment that it's going to be popular, do you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean? So they're like, everybody's gonna all

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Speaker 3: these all these gross people are gonna come and eat

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Speaker 3: burghers in our suburb. And then my favorite is the

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Speaker 3: light pollution. Apparently the Golden arches are so bright and

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Speaker 3: Regardless of all of these very persuasive arguments, the McDonald's

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Speaker 3: is coming, in fact to an Iraqi near you and

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Speaker 3: a Mission Bay near you, so kiir Kaha to everyone

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Speaker 3: who lives there. Fourteen past four.

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Speaker 3: Heather, there has been a McDonald's Mission Bay before. It's

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Speaker 3: where the Mervin pack is now spelt so badly. I

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Speaker 8: Character, isn't it pecks.

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Speaker 3: It's funny. Yeah, anyway, so there was McDonald's before, So

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Speaker 3: it's just a return to the good old days in

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Speaker 3: Mission Bay. Darcy water Grave at seventeen past fours with me. Now, Hey, Darcey, Hey,

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Speaker 3: here the hell are you doing?

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Speaker 8: Can I offer you are chippy?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 8: What are we talking about on Tuesday?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Geez, your lame?

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Speaker 9: What are we talking about?

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Speaker 3: You blame lame? However, did you go and especially go

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Speaker 3: to the vending machine and buy chips?

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Speaker 8: I never go to the vending machine because I can't

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Speaker 8: stand the vending machine. I think it's an absolute scam.

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Speaker 8: But yes, I went to the vending machine machine and

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Speaker 8: I purchased, said Crisp, so I could make another terrible dad.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what interesting that you've gone for sea salt.

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Speaker 3: It would be I just think sea salt's like buying water,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. That's the it's born, isn't that?

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Speaker 8: I like salts? I'm a very boring individual. I like simplicity,

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Speaker 8: playing T shirts, playing jeans.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, thank you to ask you to share that ship

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Speaker 3: with me. So Patrick's recited lame though, Patrick and All.

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Speaker 8: Thirty two up says, Yeah, he's decided that he's going

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Speaker 8: to stick around in twenty eight which is so good

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Speaker 8: form not only the Blues, but you know he's been

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Speaker 3: Wow, it'll take him fourteen years twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 8: Playing rugby for the Blues?

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Speaker 3: Are you serious?

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Speaker 8: That's one hundred and six? But he's not He's not

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Speaker 8: going He's not going to go anywhere.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: He made his All Black debut in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 8: And so when he gets the end of this, this

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Speaker 3: Japan for a while, didn't he for a bit? It's

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Speaker 3: made a few dollars.

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Speaker 8: Wow. I don't think if you're an All Black for

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Speaker 8: that amount of time, you're really going to be short

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Speaker 8: of a crust, are you?

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Speaker 3: Well's I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I don't know the detail behind it, but I suspect

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Speaker 8: that he's got a couple of young kids. It's like,

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Speaker 8: do I need to go to it?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 8: I'm on a good wicked here. I love it here

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Speaker 8: in New Zealand, and I'm going to hang around here

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Speaker 8: and do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you've got the kids, you like the family around,

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Speaker 3: you know, the grannies and stuff like that.

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Speaker 8: So I get that you need the free babysitters, don't you.

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Speaker 10: It's not a.

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Speaker 8: Isn't that what they are?

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Speaker 3: Sound like me making everything economic? Hey, yees see the

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Speaker 3: Blues one. I'm really sorry.

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Speaker 8: No, I don't apologize. It was a terrible game, was this? Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I'm apologizing. I sat through it. I didn't get what

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Speaker 8: I wanted ordered a good game. It was the New

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Speaker 8: South Wales team tried the best they could to butcher that.

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Speaker 8: They scored four tries to one, but couldn't kick anything

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Speaker 8: was so that means Queensland.

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Speaker 3: Were there or thereabouts.

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Speaker 8: It was the chance, but Queensland the talk about feet

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Speaker 8: for hands that were they Honestly it was so bad

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Speaker 3: Part of Cooper Darce. It's working. It's fun working for who.

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Speaker 1: Twenty the advice moving the big stories of the day forward.

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Speaker 3: That'd be hey, a bit of trouble for former police

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Speaker 3: But now the appointments had a bit of a snag.

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Speaker 3: But of course there came everywhere filming it, right, So

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Speaker 3: The walls were wet with sweet went on for about

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Speaker 3: They were handed a paper towel from the bathroom dispenser

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Speaker 3: out of ninety six and was signed by Lord. And

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Speaker 4: Can say less mouth?

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Speaker 1: He recapping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines.

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Speaker 1: It's hither duplessy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's

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Speaker 6: That'd be right.

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Speaker 3: Not been a good day for Trump as it, because

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Speaker 3: there was the thing with Elon, Elon's gone, isn't he here?

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Speaker 3: It was bad mouthing Trump. He bad mouth Trump. He

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Speaker 3: him in a swipe card and all that stuff. Immediately,

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Speaker 3: Right now, twenty three away from five.

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Speaker 4: It's the world wires on US talks.

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Speaker 3: He'd be drive right well, as I said, a US.

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Speaker 3: It's been a tough day for Donald Trump and the US.

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Speaker 3: A federal court has overruled his tariffs. The White House

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Speaker 12: This is a huge problem for not only our five

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Speaker 13: Have they gone on longer.

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Speaker 3: The US is again trying for a ceasefire in Gaza.

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Speaker 14: We are on the precipice of sending out a new

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Speaker 3: And finally, Turkey has taken action against the common breach

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Speaker 1: Dollars International correspondence with ends and eye insurance. Peace of

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Speaker 3: Murray olds Lossy correspondence with US.

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Speaker 6: Now, hey, muz hey, here they're going to afternoon.

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Speaker 3: What's happened in the Mushroom Cook trial today?

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Speaker 15: Well, the last prosecution witness is still in the court,

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Speaker 15: Aaron Patterson. Of course, the Victorian bum accused of three

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Speaker 15: been taking us inside this investigation. They've been unlocking mobile

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Speaker 15: This is day twenty two of the trial. She has,

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Speaker 16: To give evidence.

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Speaker 3: I imagine. So, hey, what is this business with this

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Speaker 15: Well, a cold case and a big reward, and it

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Speaker 15: looks like there's been well, there has been a breakthrough

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Speaker 15: a couple of hours ago, well late this morning, and

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Speaker 15: arrest was made. This concerns a forty nine year old

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Speaker 15: woman last seen thirty years ago December nineteen ninety three,

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Speaker 15: down in Wollongong, south of Sydney. Now Inquiries Cold Case

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Speaker 15: Inquiries decided to reopen this case last year. At the

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Speaker 15: same time, there was a half million dollar reward offered

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Speaker 15: for information into the disappearance of this woman and presumed

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Speaker 15: murder of this woman all those years ago. Now a

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Speaker 15: sixty four year old man is in custody, Police confirming

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Speaker 15: the reward has led to the possible breakthrough in the case.

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Speaker 15: Some clothing heather was recovered last year, months after this

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Speaker 15: reward was offered, and as I say, this fellow now

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Speaker 15: in custody, we're going to find that more than next

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Speaker 15: day or three.

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Speaker 3: Interesting Hey, listeners, have you still not got figured out

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Speaker 3: what on earth is going in Bradfield.

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Speaker 16: This is amazing.

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Speaker 15: This is a rock solid Liberal electorate in Sydney's North.

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Speaker 15: The election, as we all know, May the third. They're

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Speaker 15: still counting. Incredibly, there's about one hundred and twelve thousand

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Speaker 15: people who cast a ballot in Bradfield on that election day.

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Speaker 15: Would you believe the margin in the recount is a

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Speaker 15: single vote. This is from a total vote tally of

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Speaker 15: one hundred and twelve thousand. The Australian Electric Commission ordered

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Speaker 15: the recount four days ago. Automatically this happens when there's

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Speaker 15: a margin of fewer than one hundred votes. Now the

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Speaker 15: Liberal candidate isn't front by one single vote. She was

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Speaker 15: eight in front when the first ballots were counted. Again

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Speaker 15: of this week. And here's the thing, ever, she's already

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Speaker 15: been confirmed as a member of Susan Lee's shadow cabinet.

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Speaker 15: If she doesn't get up, I'm not sure what's going

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Speaker 15: to happen down in Canberra. But her name is Giselle Capterian,

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Speaker 15: very well credentialed Liberal candidate. As I say, one vote, Edit,

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Speaker 15: this recount's going to go on for some time. They

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Speaker 15: count every primary vote, every preference vote, They count all

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Speaker 15: the informals and finally, not your when, don't even ask me,

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Speaker 15: not your when. We're going to come to a final decision.

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Speaker 15: But the margin could not be tight.

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Speaker 3: Too, right, Hey, muzz thanks very much appreciated. Murray Olds,

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Speaker 3: Australia correspondent here that you're incorrect about Elon Musk. He

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Speaker 3: can only do that role for one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 3: five days and that will come to an end. It's

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Speaker 3: nothing to do with what he said. Fair point. Slightly wrong,

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Speaker 3: but fairpoint. What it is is that he can only

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Speaker 3: do the role technically for one hundred and thirty days

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Speaker 3: because he's a special government employee, and that means in

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Speaker 3: any one calendar year, he's only supposed to work for

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Speaker 3: the government for one hundred and thirty days. And you

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Speaker 3: know Donald Trump stickler for the rules, so when he

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Speaker 3: saw one hundred and thirty days was almost up, he

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Speaker 3: was like, Elon, gonna have to follow those rules, mate,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have to leave a whatever whatever. Apparently Elon's

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Speaker 3: given this interview that's gonna be So I think it

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Speaker 3: works out that what happened January for how many days

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Speaker 3: has may gotten it? BETI do you remember thirty is

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Speaker 3: e short's thirty one because I don't have time to

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Speaker 3: do the rhyme. It's thirty one how many days? Anyway,

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Speaker 3: so thirty one days. So I think it's supposed to

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Speaker 3: actually run out on the thirty first of May. And

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Speaker 3: he's given an interview that's going to air on the

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Speaker 3: first of June in which he criticizes the one big,

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Speaker 3: Beautiful Bill. So I don't know. I mean, it feels

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Speaker 3: either Elon has has just played this beautifully, whereas like

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Speaker 3: my time is up and now I can go out

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Speaker 3: and have a can have a crack at Trump, or

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Speaker 3: Trump's had it, got wind of it and he's not

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Speaker 3: happy about it. Anyway, we'll go to the US, we'll

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Speaker 3: find out what it is. Heather, incorrect, by the way,

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Speaker 3: on the migrants, this is this text on the migrants, Heather,

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Speaker 3: it's way more likely that these overstayer families have been

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Speaker 3: on benefits with the children likely to follow. Now, I

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Speaker 3: don't know that that is the case. I don't know

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Speaker 3: that that is the case because I've actually be told

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Speaker 3: that the overstaying parents are all working, they're actually paying

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Speaker 3: their taxes. Because there's no chatting between government departments, you know,

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Speaker 3: how it is so you can have an eye. You

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Speaker 3: could be an overstay. I have an id number be

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Speaker 3: paying your taxes and stuff, while while the other government

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Speaker 3: department that's supposed to be deporting you is just blistfully

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Speaker 3: unaware of this. I've been told for the most part,

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Speaker 3: they're actually not on benefits, they're actually tax paying. However,

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Speaker 3: if they are on the benefits, if they are bludging

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Speaker 3: off the government, get rid of them. I don't mind,

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Speaker 3: absolutely get rid of them. But if they're paying their

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Speaker 3: taxes and their kids are going to have been educated

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Speaker 3: by us and are going to pay their taxes as well,

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Speaker 3: let them stay. We need them.

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Speaker 1: Quarter to Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and

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Speaker 1: get payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: It's thirteen away from five. Jason walls up political editors

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Speaker 3: with us. Hi, Jason, good evening. What's Jenny done?

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Speaker 17: Jenny, Jenny, Jenny our poor Jenny Anderson. That's from the

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Speaker 17: Labor Party, that is, if you're not familiar with the name.

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Speaker 17: I think she needs a little bit of a history lesson.

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Speaker 17: I'm afraid we're not talking each history. We're talking quite

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Speaker 17: recent New Zealand political history, which you would have thought

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Speaker 17: she would have been pretty well clued up on She

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Speaker 17: was on Old Nate Nick Mills's show Wellington Mornings this

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Speaker 17: morning talking about the government's coalition arrangement.

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Speaker 18: Have a listen, And there's only been one instance, which

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Speaker 18: is the current government, where you've had ministers in the

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Speaker 18: cabinet room. So the bigger party typically always takes up

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Speaker 18: those cabinet roles in the and it's part of negotiation.

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Speaker 11: Hang on a second, what was that first part?

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Speaker 18: And he's only been one instance, which is the current government,

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Speaker 18: where you've had ministers in the cabinet room.

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Speaker 17: Well, what about one Winston Raymond Peters in twenty seventeen

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Speaker 17: to twenty twenty, Shane Jones, Tracy Martin.

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Speaker 11: I could rattle off.

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Speaker 17: A few of the other New Zealand First, so maybe just.

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Speaker 3: Give us That was she saying that New Zealand First

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Speaker 3: has never been in the cabinet room before.

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Speaker 18: I'm going to play this for you again, and there's

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Speaker 18: only been one instance, which is the current government, where

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Speaker 18: you've had ministers in the cabinet room.

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Speaker 17: So like a good well, like a good broadcaster, our

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Speaker 17: friend Nick Mills pushed back, and this is what she said.

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Speaker 18: But they were, they were in the cabinet room.

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Speaker 17: So that was when he was talking about these New

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Speaker 17: Zealand first MPs. So the deputy just for the record,

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Speaker 17: the deputy prime Minister was very much in the cabinet room.

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Speaker 17: In fact, when j Cinda Ardun was away on maternity leave,

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Speaker 17: Winston Peters was the chair of the cabinet.

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Speaker 18: She went on, they would come to cabinet when they

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Speaker 18: have a paper. But currently correctly if I'm wrong, but

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Speaker 18: my understanding is this is the first government where we've

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Speaker 18: had multiple parties inside that cabinet room meeting for cabinet regularly.

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Speaker 17: Now she is right on that latter part. This is

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Speaker 17: the first three way coalition where all three parties are

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Speaker 17: actually technically always sitting around the cabinet table. Under Labor

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Speaker 17: in twenty seventeen, the Greens were Confidence and Supply, so

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Speaker 17: although some of them were ministers, they would come in

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Speaker 17: and they were ministers, they were not part of the

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Speaker 17: cabinet per se. So good bay Nick.

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Speaker 8: He follows up again, tell me if I'm wrong, and

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Speaker 8: you know this is your party I'm talking about. But

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Speaker 8: Whinston Peters was deputy prime minister, so you had a

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Speaker 8: deputy prime minister that wasn't in the cabinet moon room.

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Speaker 8: Is that what you're telling me.

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Speaker 18: I have I still look, I wasn't in kidnet being,

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Speaker 18: to be honest, so I don't remember. I was not

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Speaker 18: a kidnety in the meion.

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Speaker 17: It's a hard lessen, it's a high lesson. We all

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Speaker 17: do make mistakes. It happens from time to time. But

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Speaker 17: you know when you're on radio talking about something like this,

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Speaker 17: and the point was, you know, she's sure that the

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Speaker 17: Prime Minister needs to be more careful with the likes

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Speaker 17: David Seymour and Winston Peters. This is the sort of

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Speaker 17: things you should get right. And for the record, yes,

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Speaker 17: Winston Peters did sit in cabinet It's not the first

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Speaker 17: time that he's done it, and you know, might not

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Speaker 17: even be the last day.

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Speaker 3: How long has Ginny Anderson been in Parliament.

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Speaker 11: Since twenty seventeen?

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Speaker 3: So wasn't she there? Like, correct me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 3: But wasn't she there when Jacinda was sitting next to

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Speaker 3: Winston in the cabinet room?

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Speaker 11: Correct? Yes, she wasn't a minister at the.

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Speaker 3: Photo of Winston sitting in the cabinet room.

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Speaker 17: Apparently not Apparently not Jinny, I like Ginny, I think

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Speaker 17: and I think she actually has had some you know,

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Speaker 17: some good moments in the house. But it was just

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Speaker 17: a bit of a lapse from old mate.

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Speaker 3: Oh wowie, hey, what's going on with lux And it's

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Speaker 3: not true that he really dry cleans his suits every

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Speaker 3: time he wears it.

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Speaker 11: Is it's unfortunately not.

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Speaker 17: It was a funny little anecdote that came from his

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Speaker 17: ketchup with Ryan Bridge on Herald Now this morning, which,

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Speaker 17: by the way, is it's actually going quite well. Congratulations Ryan,

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Speaker 17: if you're listening, if you're not already.

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Speaker 11: Asleep, so well.

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Speaker 17: We'll file this under the sort of the unrelatable Prime

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Speaker 17: Minister moments, because you know, since apparently it's in vogue

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Speaker 17: to ask MP's where they get their clothes from and

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Speaker 17: who they're wearing these days, Ryan asked about this and

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Speaker 17: the Prime Minister said, you know, he gets his clothes

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Speaker 17: from Working Style is a good Kiwi company.

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Speaker 11: Then Ryan asked, do you will wear the same suit

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Speaker 11: twice that.

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Speaker 13: I buy or two of the same suits at times.

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Speaker 17: Which is I mean, wouldn't it be nice These suits

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Speaker 17: go for anywhere between fifteen hundred and two thousand apiece.

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Speaker 17: And then we get onto the conversation around the maintenance

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Speaker 17: of said suits.

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Speaker 4: Well, you always wash it before you wear it?

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Speaker 16: What do you mean wash?

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Speaker 13: I don't put it.

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Speaker 16: Miss at the dry cleaners.

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Speaker 4: It goes regular service and the dry cleaning service.

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Speaker 17: Yes, so there was some conversation as to it was

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Speaker 17: a bit unclear if he meant after every single time

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Speaker 17: you wore it he went to get it dry cleaned.

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Speaker 17: I have confirmed with senior beehive sources that this isn't

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Speaker 17: in fact not the case.

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Speaker 11: But he does.

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Speaker 17: He cleans them regularly and it is patient. In anticipation

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Speaker 17: of your next question, No, we as taxpayers do not

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Speaker 17: pay for the cleaning.

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Speaker 16: He does that himself.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, though, don't you get subsidized cleaning if you

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Speaker 3: work in the beehive?

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Speaker 4: Do you?

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Speaker 11: I mean probably there's probably because.

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Speaker 3: When I was in when I worked in the pres gallery,

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Speaker 3: there was a dry cleaners just down there where the

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Speaker 3: where the gymmers. Don't they still have the dry Kevin

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Speaker 3: collected and they took it, took it away and then

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Speaker 3: they brought it back for the ministers. Do they not

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Speaker 3: still do that?

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Speaker 11: But they still do that.

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Speaker 17: I don't know if it's subsidized though, because when I

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Speaker 17: get my suits dry cleaned.

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Speaker 11: It's about forty five dollars upon.

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Speaker 3: Now you know what you're doing with the rest of

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Speaker 3: your afternoon. Can you make some phone calls?

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, okay, I'll hit the blower.

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Speaker 3: You'll hit the phone, not the blow thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 3: It is the blower is also the phone.

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Speaker 17: If okay, saw my Korea flashing before my eyes, there're.

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Speaker 3: Doing a Jenny Jason Wall's political editor seven away from five.

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Speaker 1: Putting the time question to the newspeakers, the Mike Hosking breakfast.

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Speaker 19: Who reserving governor gave us a lot to think about. Yes,

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Speaker 19: the predictive cash rate can't came. But where we go

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Speaker 19: is potentially a bit of a mystery from here on.

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Speaker 19: In Christine Hawksbley's with us, we had.

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Speaker 18: Lowered interest rates a long way and it does take

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Speaker 18: time for that to work its way through.

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Speaker 13: Kind of see that in the effect of Morgat rates,

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Speaker 13: they are going to come down mechanically, so there is.

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Speaker 4: Still to come there.

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Speaker 13: In our projections, we have a recovery continuing.

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Speaker 19: Where is it You're seeing this recovery park, the farmers

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Speaker 19: and all that stuff that we obviously get. Where is

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Speaker 19: this recovery in services? Where is it in downtown Auckland,

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Speaker 19: downtown christ due to downtown Wellington.

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Speaker 4: Where is it?

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Speaker 20: It's not?

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Speaker 13: You know, this is the art of economics.

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Speaker 19: Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Husking Breakfast with

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Speaker 19: Maybe's Real Estate News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 21: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, Ginny, do you remember that when Stewart Nash was

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Speaker 3: on with On Politics Wednesday with Mike and Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 3: we used to have a regular segment called Nash Facts

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Speaker 3: because that's how often stew we just make things up.

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Speaker 3: I think I think Ginny is of the same elk

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Speaker 3: because yesterday I was listening and she said that cataract

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Speaker 3: surgery wasn't that important.

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Speaker 18: Cataracts are not important as knees and hipswitch are mobility.

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Speaker 3: And who quality of life?

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Speaker 4: Who says we said too?

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Speaker 18: Who are waiting three years for a knee or hip?

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Speaker 3: Hop ark? Okay, now hang on attack okay mobility and

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Speaker 3: quality of life? Now, I don't know about you, but

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Speaker 3: I reckon mobility and quality of life is pretty hard

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Speaker 3: if you can't see anything because you got cataracts. I

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Speaker 3: was listening to that and I thought, m Ginny, are

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Speaker 3: you filtering that through the little thing that goes? Should

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Speaker 3: I say this? And I don't feel like you are anyway.

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Speaker 3: So if this carries on, I'm just I'm just putting

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Speaker 3: it out there. If it carries on, and there have

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Speaker 3: been a few examples now and I've been giving her

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Speaker 3: a bit of a long rope on this one. But

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Speaker 3: if it carries on, we're gonna have to revive nash

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Speaker 3: facts and we're gonna have to come up with a

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Speaker 3: name for it. And I don't know what to call

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Speaker 3: it yet. I haven't spent a lot like Jenny Fibbs

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Speaker 3: something something like that, you know, I don't know, spitball

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Speaker 3: that between ourselves anyway, Just a word, just a word

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Speaker 3: to the wise for Ginny, maybe just check those facts

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Speaker 3: because we're all listening. Chris Bishop is with us. Next

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Speaker 3: we're going to talk the RMA changes, and then we're

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Speaker 3: heading off to the US to find out what's gone

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Speaker 3: on with Elon Musk News talks. They'd be.

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Speaker 1: Questions, answers, facts, analysis, the drive show you trust for

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Speaker 1: the full picture. Heather Duplessy on Drive with One New Zealand,

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Speaker 1: let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 6: That'd be.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon. The government's announced sweeping changes to RMA rules,

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Speaker 3: in particular the National Policy Statements that deal with infrastructure, farming,

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Speaker 3: freshwater management and so on. For example, the government announced

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Speaker 3: they're going to make it easier to get consent for

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Speaker 3: mining and quarrying, boost the housing supply, and then use

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Speaker 3: rules for farmers as well. Chris Bishop Is, the Minister

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Speaker 3: for RMA reforming, is with us now bishallow, Hello, what

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Speaker 3: are you planning for the electricity sector.

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Speaker 22: We're planning a strength and national policy statement for renewables,

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Speaker 22: which I mean it's complicated, but the short story is

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Speaker 22: it will send a really clear message to people doing

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Speaker 22: resource consents that we need more energy, we need more renewables.

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Speaker 22: In particular, the current policy statement is pretty vague and

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Speaker 22: it's not directive enough, so it will be much clearer

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Speaker 22: about that. Likewise, on transmission, you know, for generation you've

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Speaker 22: got to have the transmission and the distribution. Really hard

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Speaker 22: to get consent for some transmission around the place. It'll

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Speaker 22: be easy to get consent for all of these major appros.

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Speaker 3: Trying to wait the consent in favor of a.

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Speaker 16: Yes, yes it is.

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Speaker 22: So it seems a clear message from central government that

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Speaker 22: we need infrastructure. We're also doing a new policy statement

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Speaker 22: on infrastructure, which there isn't at the moment, which is

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Speaker 22: crazy when you think about it. So we need infrastructure,

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Speaker 22: we need renewable energy, we need these things to grow

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Speaker 22: the economy and boast energy. Does it make it a default, yes,

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Speaker 22: It doesn't make it a default, yes, but it seems

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Speaker 22: a very clear waiting in favor of development through these statements.

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Speaker 3: And brings the costs down.

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Speaker 22: Well, it will in time, because if you're trying to

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Speaker 22: get a resource consent for a wind farm or geo thermal,

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Speaker 22: you can spend literally years in court, millions and millions

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Speaker 22: of dollars on lawyers. And it's also the time like

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Speaker 22: it takes sometimes it takes six eight years to get

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Speaker 22: resource consent for a wind farm. It's totally crazy at

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Speaker 22: a time when we have an energy shortage and all

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Speaker 22: of these abundant renewables out there.

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Speaker 3: And the freshwater statement, are you getting rid of the

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Speaker 3: tamno or to wipe part.

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Speaker 22: We're consulting on rebalancing it and that's one of the options.

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Speaker 22: So we haven't made a firm decision on what.

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Speaker 3: Rid of it all together. It's so vague and weird.

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Speaker 22: It is vague and it does cause complexity. We're going

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Speaker 22: through a bit of a two stage process there and

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Speaker 22: we are consulting that's one of the options is to

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Speaker 22: get rid of it entirely. But generally we are rebalancing

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Speaker 22: the system in favor of all water users and making

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Speaker 22: sure that we protect fresh water but also we can

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Speaker 22: use it. And also we're looking at things like greater

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Speaker 22: direction around water storage.

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Speaker 3: It needs to be easy to store water for it

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Speaker 3: totally in Auckland. What's the problem with quarries. Why is

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Speaker 3: it so hard to get a quarry or expand a quarry?

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Speaker 22: Well, good question. So we are making changes to a

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Speaker 22: whole suite of different things to make it easier to

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Speaker 22: get a quarry underway and a mine. It's really hard

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Speaker 22: to get consent for a quarry and we need them.

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Speaker 22: One of the major drivers why roads are so.

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Speaker 16: Expensive to build on the Zealands.

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Speaker 22: It's just really difficult to get the fill, get their

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Speaker 22: aggregate to build the roads. So there's all sorts of

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Speaker 22: rules around indigenous bio diversity, around wheatlands, around significanatural areas

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Speaker 22: that the system makes it just really too hard, and

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Speaker 22: so we are stripping back some of those protections in

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Speaker 22: order to allow quarries.

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Speaker 3: You need to be honest about a right you're deprioritizing,

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Speaker 3: not completely deprioritizing, but you're lowering the priority on the

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Speaker 3: environment here.

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Speaker 22: Well yeah, I mean we're saying that in relation to quarries,

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Speaker 22: they are of such significant importance to our future infrastructure,

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Speaker 22: redressing our infrastructure deficit that where it makes sense to

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Speaker 22: you should allow quarries to expand and open new ones.

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Speaker 22: That people don't necessarily like it, but the reality is

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Speaker 22: they also need we need roads, and they also don't

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Speaker 22: want to spend billions and billions of dollars building the roads.

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Speaker 22: So it needs to be easier to get through the

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Speaker 22: consenting process and the costs of the material going them,

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Speaker 22: like the fell and the aggregate.

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Speaker 3: You know, it needs to be cheaper. Yes, Okay, Now, Bush,

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Speaker 3: what's going on with the road cones? But I'm going

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Speaker 3: to talk about this later in the program. But I

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Speaker 3: see road cones everywhere, and I thought your predecessor s

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Speaker 3: Me and Brown declared a war on road cones and

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Speaker 3: they were supposed to be gone.

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Speaker 22: We've got a war on road cones, have you though?

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Speaker 20: We do?

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Speaker 22: We the war there and I can report some progress.

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Speaker 22: So we now track Well, firstly, we now track how

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Speaker 22: much is being spent on it, so the number of

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Speaker 22: dollars being spent as tracking down as a percentage. One

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Speaker 22: of the reasons why you do see them it is

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Speaker 22: that we're spending a huge amount more money on maintenance.

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Speaker 22: So when you do maintenance and you fill in all

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Speaker 22: the potholes, you know you don't necessarily need as many

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Speaker 22: as the road cones are out there at the moment,

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Speaker 22: you do need a bit of protection.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, okay, listen, I'm okay with five road cones

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Speaker 3: at every pothole. If there are a thousand potholes, there

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Speaker 3: are five thousand road cones, I don't mind. What I've

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Speaker 3: got a problem with is five thousand road cones at

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Speaker 3: the one pothole and I'm still seeing that.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, look, I can't I can't not agree with you.

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Speaker 22: Of course I agree with you. One of the interesting

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Speaker 22: things that I've just got the data today because I

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Speaker 22: suspected you might ask about this, is in is it

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Speaker 22: has been going around and actually checking when they're needed.

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Speaker 22: And they've actually removed three thousand road cones from three

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Speaker 22: thousand sites in the last year or so.

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Speaker 3: What like three thousand road cones from three thousand signs.

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Speaker 22: No, sorr, it's three thousand sites around the country. They

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Speaker 22: are just taking out the road cones so that they

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Speaker 22: found that well they weren't requiet they weren't. Yeah, they

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Speaker 22: just meant they weren't needed. So they're redundant. They call

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Speaker 22: them redundant road cones. So we've still got a war

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Speaker 22: on it. We're winning the war, but it will take time.

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Speaker 22: You know when battles overnight.

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Speaker 3: Are they ignoring you?

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Speaker 16: Bish?

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Speaker 22: No, But I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what

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Speaker 22: I am king to crack down on. And there's some

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Speaker 22: stuff coming around this in the future. There's councils, so

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Speaker 22: ins TA has got their house in order a bit.

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Speaker 22: That's central government councils though, like seriously charging one thousand

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Speaker 22: or five thousand bucks for temporary traffic management to run

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Speaker 22: a parade. Yep, that stuff's nuts.

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Speaker 3: You know we're going to stop that.

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Speaker 16: Well watch the space don't care.

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Speaker 3: So thank you very much. I appreciate your ka and

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Speaker 3: go well at the Music Awards the looking for top Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I hope, I hope somebody decent wins. I don't know

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Speaker 3: who you're rooting for. That's Chris Bishop, Minister for RMA.

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Speaker 4: Reform than together do for Sea Alan.

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Speaker 3: Fonterra as another business absolutely smashing it out of the

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Speaker 3: park at the moment. As you will know, profit for

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Speaker 3: the last nine months is up eleven percent, so they're

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Speaker 3: now recording more than a billion. It's looking good for

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Speaker 3: the upcoming season again. So this season it was ten

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Speaker 3: dollars per kilogram of milk solids. The forecast is again

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Speaker 3: for the next season ten dollars per kilogram of milk solids.

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Speaker 3: That having said this, though, the CEO, Miles Hurrell has

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Speaker 3: acknowledged that the price of butter is winding you up right,

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Speaker 3: So it's absolutely bringing money into the country, but it

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Speaker 3: is winding you up that you have to pay for

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Speaker 3: it as well. He's blamed it on the rising international prices.

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Speaker 3: If they're paying it, we have to pay it, which

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Speaker 3: is true. We'll talk to Jamie McKay about it. He'll

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Speaker 3: be with us in a round about an hour. Right now,

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Speaker 3: it is quarter past five. Hey, if you're heading to

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Speaker 3: field days this year, keep an eye out for BYD

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Speaker 3: because BYD is going to be there for the first

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Speaker 3: time this year and they're kicking off and off the nationwide.

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Speaker 3: You are hearing about it first right now. No one's

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Speaker 3: talked about it here it is site's coming from my mouth. First,

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Speaker 4: What ever do for c Ellen who's gone little bit

889
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Speaker 4: like this?

890
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: Ah seventeen past five and that's of course Lord's new

891
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: single just dropped. It's the second one just dropped one

892
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 3: hour and seventeen minutes ago. Trouble is, some Kiwi fans

893
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: feel that Lord might be playing a little too hard

894
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 3: to get with the Kiwis because just ninety six of

895
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: the Kiwi fans got led into her very exclusive listening

896
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 3: party and the toilets at the Auckland Central YMCA. Our

897
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 3: producer Sam Robinson was one of the hundreds dying to

898
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 3: get him, which is absolutely not able to an ease

899
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: with me. Now, Hi Sam, Hi, Heather.

900
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 20: You know, Bishop was just sitting in the seat, and

901
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 20: I think this is a really great follow up to that.

902
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 20: You know, it's a really great It flows on those.

903
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 3: Because both of you are music enthusiasts so much for

904
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: Sea and from the Hut, Yeah, and both from the Hut.

905
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: There you go. Did she use this toilet gig as

906
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 3: part of her video like she did with the thing

907
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 3: that she did in New York.

908
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 20: No, So there was a lot of confusion about what

909
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 20: was going to happen with this toilet gag. I mean

910
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 20: all day people were by people, I mean me were

911
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 20: running around trying to find out what was happening and

912
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 20: where there were cameras that were in the cubicles though,

913
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 20: so something might come of that footage. And she did

914
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 20: go live on Instagram live, but I just watched the

915
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 20: video and can confirm no, no, no footage, Ye, no

916
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 20: footage on the bathroom.

917
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 3: You were telling me that the guy who organizes these

918
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 3: things is a bit of like a wonder kid.

919
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 8: Yeah.

920
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 20: So his name is Terrence O'Connor. He is the mastermind

921
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 20: behind Bratt Summer from last year, if anyone will remember.

922
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 20: And he's also he's around, He's on Tektalk. You've probably

923
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 20: seen him if if you're scrolling enough, and he is

924
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 20: a marketing genius. Gen Z kind of gets all these

925
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 20: crowds out, and I think that's kind of what last

926
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 20: night was, is a way to kind of announce that track.

927
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 3: So something about this will go viral.

928
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 8: Yeah.

929
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 3: Hun, So you're telling me that the YMCA Vincent Street

930
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 3: toilets are going to be seen worldwide.

931
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 20: They already have been. Last night, Lord went live to

932
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 20: premiere some of some of those new songs on her

933
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 20: Instagram and I think ten thousand people were listening, yeah,

934
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 20: and watching those beautiful, those beautiful toilets.

935
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: I'm getting a lot of texts from people who hate

936
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 3: on Lord. Now is this because Lord, are we doing

937
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 3: the crowded house thing to Lord right now where she's

938
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 3: our child so we're hyping her too heavily? Or are

939
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: they not understand that she's a big deal globally?

940
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 20: We new Zealand is a great place to live when

941
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 20: you don't have someone complaining about tall poppy syndrome in

942
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,959
Speaker 20: your ear. But I do think there is a case

943
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 20: of tall poppy syndrome when it comes to Lord. I

944
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 20: think we really love to claim our artists, and when

945
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 20: they don't always come back and give us the best

946
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 20: thing first, we tend to be a bit of hateful

947
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 20: and I bet if I got in last night, we

948
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 20: would be having a completely different conversation.

949
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 3: Shure, Now you misunderstand me. The texts are like, Lord

950
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 3: is overrated, She's not that great, her music sucks that

951
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: kind of thing.

952
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 20: Look, I mean she is definitely for the audience she

953
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 20: is for, and I am that prime audience. I think

954
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 20: a lot of people my age at that prime audience.

955
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 20: If you were fourteen when Pure Heroin came out, when

956
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 20: that first album dropped, you're hoped for life. There is

957
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 20: no way you're getting off that train, no matter what.

958
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 3: It was a moment, wasn't it. Hey, So Chris Bishop

959
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 3: was just saying he's off to the Music Awards tonight.

960
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 3: Is Lord going to be there?

961
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 20: Well, the roma is that Lord is going to be there.

962
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 20: She's been nominated for Single of the Year for her

963
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 20: remix of Charlie Xx's Girl. So confusing and yeah, this

964
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 20: inflicting reports. I think she'll be there. Apparently she told

965
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 20: people in the bathrooms last night that she will, and

966
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 20: that's actually what she's come back to New Zealand for.

967
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 20: So the question is whether she'll perform tonight.

968
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 3: Okay, she did she explain why she's not performing here

969
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: on her tour at all. Look, I think that may

970
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: have been about isn't it Sam?

971
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 20: I don't think so. I think the way tours roll

972
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 20: out nowadays, they need to see how those tickets sell.

973
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 20: And I'll tell you Solar Power Tour did not sell

974
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 20: super well overseas, so I think maybe the label are

975
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 20: just holding back, waiting to announce those dates until they

976
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 20: see how well America is selling. But with the way

977
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 20: that this album is being publicized and latched onto, I

978
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 20: think we're going to have no trouble selling out any venue.

979
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: And you said, and have you got over missing out

980
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: on the toilet gig No.

981
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 20: But if Lauda is listening, she is welcome to invite

982
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 20: me to any other private listening parties.

983
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: I think she's listening to news radio while she's putting

984
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: her face on.

985
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 20: Isn't listening to you?

986
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 14: Right?

987
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: Sam? That's exactly what she says, having a little bit

988
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 3: of a kickback and just getting some other and spo,

989
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: isn't she while she puts her face.

990
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 20: Yeah, there's inspiration from everywhere, and you inspire me every day.

991
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: Lord, honestly, listen to this nonsense out of this kid's mouth.

992
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 3: I have to listen to this crap all day. Okay, Sam,

993
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: thanks very much, Off you go, then, Sam Robinson News

994
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 3: doorgs he'd beat producer five twenty one.

995
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: Informed insight into today's issues. It's hither duplicy ellan drive

996
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks that'd

997
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: be here.

998
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 3: The Lord got political. That's the reason that people don't

999
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: like her. Thank you, Mark five twenty four. Now I

1000
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: worry that we have got a case of empty talk

1001
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: from this government on the road Cones, so hear me

1002
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 3: out on this. Okay, by now, you'll have heard about

1003
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 3: this raised pedestrian crossing in Wayoku, which is south of Auckland.

1004
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: Now that raised pedestrian crossing is supposed to cost four

1005
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars. Nearly the crossing itself only costs sixty

1006
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars. The rest of the nonsense is made

1007
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: up with things like traffic management. Traffic management apparently within

1008
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: just this project alone apparently sits at about one hundred

1009
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: thousand dollars. Now, I don't know why that is still happening,

1010
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: because Simme and Brown, when he was the Transport, declared

1011
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: a war on the road cones, and he said he

1012
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: was putting an end to this endless wall of cones

1013
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 3: that you see every time someone digs a hole next

1014
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 3: to the road, because he was going to tell the

1015
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: roading authorities that they need to change the way that

1016
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: they waited the risk when they were putting the road

1017
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: cones out. And yet we still see thousands of road cones,

1018
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: don't we. The other day I drove down Lincoln Street

1019
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 3: in Ponsonby. It connects Ponsby Road to Richmond Road. All

1020
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: that was happening on Lincoln Street was there. There was

1021
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: some chap in a tiny digger digging a hole on

1022
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 3: the side of the road. The digging space was no

1023
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: bigger than the size of one car, maybe had a

1024
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 3: push two cars. And yet they had coned off a

1025
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 3: huge section of the road. They had laid out cones

1026
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: in a gigantic maze so that they could create a

1027
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: little funnel, a single car lane for cars to drive through.

1028
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: And then on one side of this little car lane

1029
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: that they made they had a chap sitting with a

1030
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 3: stop go sign, and on the other side they had

1031
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: another chap sitting with a stop go sign. And they

1032
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: were completely over complicating the situation because it was only

1033
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: me using the road. Every time I was out, I

1034
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: went one way, just me, came back, just me. They

1035
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: didn't need that. The road is not a particularly it's

1036
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 3: a street. It's a street, it's a residential street. It's

1037
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: not particularly busy. It's wide enough for any driver to

1038
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 3: basically figure out how to go around the driveway and

1039
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: the digger and the other driver to see all that

1040
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 3: car is going around the digger. Let me stop. You

1041
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: don't need any of the road cones, I would have thought.

1042
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: So my question is why as this still happening, Because

1043
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: I thought Simeon was ordering the roading authorities to stop

1044
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: this road cone overkill. Two options. One, they are blatantly

1045
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 3: ignoring him when they keep laying the road cones and

1046
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: keep pricing those road cones into their raised pedestrian crossings.

1047
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: They're just ignoring the directive. Second option, it's just hot

1048
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 3: air from him, and nothing that he has done actually

1049
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 3: changes anything.

1050
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 4: Ever do for see Allen Hither.

1051
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: I used to live in California. I was surprised to

1052
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: learn that the illegal migrants hardly ever qualified for any benefits.

1053
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 3: They all had jobs. Often the jobs weren't were the

1054
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: ones that the locals didn't want to do. And many

1055
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 3: times the Americans would say that California would grind to

1056
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: a halt of the illegals were deported. Paul, very good point.

1057
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about these kiss of the migrant

1058
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: overstayers next up with Alison mcclemont, who's the lawyer dealing

1059
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: with them. I have got so many suggestions on what

1060
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: to call the Jenny Fibbs situation. Hither we could call

1061
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: it Jenny dribble, Ginny's gems, Ginny's gaffes, Ginny's junk. Hither

1062
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: what about gin spinhither what about fueled by gin Jinny fibbs?

1063
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: For me, Heather Spinny Jinny would be a good na.

1064
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 3: Actually that would be a spiny JP. I don't hate

1065
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 3: that here. The last week on Mike's show, Jinny Anderson

1066
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 3: concluded by saying, verbatim, this is the budget that caused

1067
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: women's pay to go backwards, and that's the truth. Obviously

1068
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: we know that's not the truth, So there's more where

1069
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 3: that came from. It would appear headlines, next.

1070
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: On the iHeart app and in your car on your

1071
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: drive home it's Heather duplicy Ellen drive with one New

1072
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: Zealand let's get connected news dogs that'd be.

1073
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 4: More sorry and.

1074
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: Haven't thanks.

1075
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 4: As well.

1076
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: One of the questions call de question really right now

1077
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: in the wake of that court blocking Donald Trump's tariffs

1078
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: is what does it do to the tariffs? Do the

1079
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 3: tariff's stay in place? Do the tariffs are they suspended?

1080
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: Is it all of the tariffs or just some of

1081
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 3: the tariffs? I might be able to answer that question

1082
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:21,959
Speaker 3: later on. We're also going to talk to Don Braid

1083
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: of Mainfreight, who obviously will be dealing with a lot

1084
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 3: of this stuff, and he might have an insight into that. Incidentally,

1085
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: they've just reported actually their results US New Zealand Asia

1086
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 3: business profits are down, but Ossie, the Ossie business is

1087
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: absolutely punching. So I'll talk us through it after six o'clock.

1088
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 3: The huddle is with us very shortly right now. It's

1089
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: twenty four away from six now. There are calls to

1090
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 3: grant amnesty to New Zealand born teenagers who are technically

1091
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 3: illegal overstayers. Birthright citizenship was outlawed in two thousand and six,

1092
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: and kids who have been born to overstayers since that

1093
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: date are about to turn eighteen. But the trouble is

1094
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 3: turning eighteen when you're an overstayer means you can't study

1095
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 3: any further means you can't work. So what do they do?

1096
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 3: Aliston mcclimont is an immigration immigration lawyer representing a bunch

1097
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 3: of these cases and is with us now Alistair, Hello,

1098
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: Hi Heather, how are you well? Thanks mate? How many

1099
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 3: of these kids are there?

1100
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 13: It's impossible to know because when kids birth are registered,

1101
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 13: you don't have to put down the parents' immigration status,

1102
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 13: so there is absolutely no way statistically we can know

1103
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 13: how many children are out there, apart from anecdotal reports

1104
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 13: that there may be you know, in.

1105
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 3: The hundreds, hundreds rather than thousands.

1106
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 13: It's really difficult to say. You can really only estimate.

1107
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 13: It's really difficult. There is no statistical way that we

1108
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 13: can actually tell what are their.

1109
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 3: Parents up to. Are their parents on the benefit, are

1110
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 3: they working, are they paying taxes? Is it under the table?

1111
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 3: What's going on?

1112
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 13: They're all working. Some of them are actually just normal

1113
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 13: tax paying, you know, workers like everybody else. Because IOD

1114
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 13: doesn't share the information of immigration zealance, so there's no

1115
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 13: harm in getting a job and paying a tax. So

1116
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 13: they're the ones who are picking our fruits and vegetables

1117
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 13: and cleaning our offices and working their butts off to

1118
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 13: try and you know, provide for their families just like

1119
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 13: everyone else.

1120
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: Now, if we give the kids amnesty, we have to

1121
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 3: give the parents amnesty, don't they don't.

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00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 13: We Well, I'm advocating for the children and this one.

1123
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 13: You know, sometimes the parents just want a future for

1124
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 13: their children. And a lot of times, you know, that's

1125
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 13: the reason why a lot of people might grate to

1126
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 13: this country, because they want to bet a future for

1127
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 13: their kids.

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Speaker 3: Alistair, what child is going to come forward and say, hey, look,

1129
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 3: I am an overstayer, technically I need amnesty. If they

1130
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 3: know that that risks their parents' status and the parents

1131
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: might be deported.

1132
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 13: Well, it doesn't necessarily mean mean that at all. I

1133
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 13: mean if you basically grant the kids residency, it doesn't

1134
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 13: mean anything for the parents. The parents' cases will be

1135
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 13: considered on a case by case basis. How do they

1136
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 13: become an oversayer? What steps have they taken? Do they

1137
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 13: have a criminal background, are they well settled in this country.

1138
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 13: Everything's done on a case by case basis. It's just

1139
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 13: for the kids. They are innocent victims and they are

1140
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 13: extremely vulnerable, so they really need to be separated from

1141
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 13: adult to make conscious decisions to remain in a country unlawfully.

1142
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 13: These kids don't make those conscious decisions. They're just born.

1143
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 13: That's it.

1144
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: Are these people generally law abiding other than obviously being overstayers?

1145
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 3: Are they generally law abiding or have they brushed up

1146
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 3: against the law in other ways?

1147
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 13: Immigration? New Zealand prioritize the deportation of overstayers who criminally offend.

1148
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 13: Quite often they'll go to the courts and sort of

1149
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 13: deportation orders when they come up from the courts. The

1150
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 13: fact that these the parents of these kids have been

1151
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 13: here for twenty five years. Tells you that they do

1152
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 13: not have any criminal offending.

1153
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: Alistair, thank you for your time. I appreciated Alista mcclemont,

1154
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 3: the immigration lawyer for a bunch of these kids, Heather.

1155
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 3: Yesterday there were two guys doing touch ups to the

1156
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 3: pedestrian bridge over State Highway fifty nine at Gray's Road

1157
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 3: and portadur heapes of cones, two utes with flashing signs,

1158
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 3: four other large trucks blocking a lane north and southbound,

1159
00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 3: two painters, six vehicles and drivers. Go figure here the

1160
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: what's going on with the traffic management? Are the NZTA

1161
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 3: rules for traffic control? We have been working in a

1162
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 3: dead end street with has five houses, stop go control

1163
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 3: was insisted on by counsel to obey the Honestly, in

1164
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 3: a colder sack with five houses, stop go control was

1165
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 3: insisted on by council to obey the rules. Fulton, Hogan,

1166
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: Downers and Fletchers just love the ottbs that we need

1167
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 3: to do to work on the road. Thank you, Derek.

1168
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 3: Thank you. Keep those texts, covetant, keep those texts rolling in.

1169
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 3: I love her in These yarns just makes me feel

1170
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 3: more religious about this stuff. Get rid of the road

1171
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 3: Cones twenty away from six the.

1172
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Real d find you

1173
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: all one of a kind?

1174
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 3: David Farrak can we bloging? Curi Opolster and Mike Monroe,

1175
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 3: former chief of staff to Just and Adern?

1176
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 6: Hell?

1177
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: Are you two?

1178
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 16: Oh goodat Heather?

1179
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1180
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 3: Listeners, Are either of you feeling the vibes on the

1181
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 3: road Cones as well?

1182
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 9: Or is it just me?

1183
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 16: I don't think it's just you. No, it's not.

1184
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 3: Oh that sounded like you were letting me down gently, David.

1185
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 3: I don't think it's just you, but probably not to

1186
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 3: the extent that you are. Come on, don't you get

1187
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 3: don't you get educated? We can see two painters and six.

1188
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 21: Trip today they closed off entire laying with police car

1189
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 21: and truck and from what I could tell was there

1190
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 21: was a broken bottle there and someone was sweeping out

1191
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 21: with a brush, pin and shovel, and you definitely needed

1192
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 21: sub sort of traffic management. But it just seemed out

1193
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 21: as always way over the top for what was a

1194
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 21: ten second job.

1195
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 3: Unbelievable. Unbelievable, Mike, do we need to give these kids

1196
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 3: who are born to overstayers who now themselves now find

1197
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 3: themselves without actually the ability to be here. Do we

1198
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 3: need to give them an amnesty?

1199
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 4: Yes?

1200
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 23: I think we do have to give them an amnesty

1201
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 23: that these kids have. These kids have grown up stateless

1202
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 23: and it's really sort of no fault of their own.

1203
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 23: You know, they were born here. It's the only place

1204
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 23: they know. Their lives have been shaped by this country.

1205
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 23: In your council punishing them for some error that their

1206
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 23: parents made a long time ago. And I think if

1207
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 23: we start sort of picking on these kids and doing

1208
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 23: the wrong thing here, it's another stain on our reputation

1209
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 23: as a He's a good global player and a good

1210
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 23: global citizen.

1211
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 6: What do you think, David, I'll go the other way,

1212
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 6: because the long term issue is it's a terrible policy

1213
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 6: to say if you come to New Zealand and illegally stay,

1214
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 6: but mentioned.

1215
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 21: The kids here, the kids get a citizenship. It seems

1216
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 21: all the wrong signals.

1217
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 16: You see.

1218
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 21: The massive problems in the US about the solution is

1219
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 21: it shouldn't take fifteen years to deport overstairs so that

1220
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 21: the kids have then grown up there.

1221
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 16: All their life.

1222
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 21: Now there is a case for the current one just like, Yo,

1223
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 21: we've had immigration amnesties from time to time when you

1224
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 21: recognize you haven't had it right in the past where

1225
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 21: you might do a one off at the show. But

1226
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 21: going forward, I think we should be very clear that

1227
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 21: are illegal immigrants who have children New Zealand don't get

1228
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 21: automatic citizenship.

1229
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 3: Okay, I agree with you that you don't want to

1230
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 3: set a precedent. However, David, it's hardly as if we

1231
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 3: have a massive problem with illegal immigrants. And we were

1232
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 3: talking about in the last eighteen what nineteen years, we're

1233
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: talking about maybe hundreds of kids, aren't we And we've

1234
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 3: invested a whole lot of money into these kids, We've

1235
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 3: educated them, we've given them free health care and all

1236
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 3: that stuff. So surely actually it's in our best interests

1237
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 3: to make use of them as workers.

1238
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 21: Well they potentially if they have valuable skills, you can

1239
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 21: of course get work visas. Anyway, the solution again isn't

1240
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 21: that they live here illegally for fifteen years. But yeah, Locke,

1241
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 21: you show up of humanity for those who are currently there.

1242
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 21: But if we change the law to say children of

1243
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 21: illegal immigrants get what they have in the US or

1244
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 21: harmaic birthright citizenship. I think we would have a lot

1245
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 21: more illegal immigration because come for a holiday, over stay

1246
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 21: two months and being your kids are citizens.

1247
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 3: Why, by the way, Mike, did Helen Clark do this?

1248
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 3: Because it feels out of step with the labor government.

1249
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 23: I can't remember.

1250
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: Are you doing a Christian Hawks be on us? And

1251
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, I just happen a couple of months ago.

1252
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 3: I can't remember that.

1253
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 13: That's right.

1254
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 23: Yeah, I know it's anespathetic. When was the two thousand

1255
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 23: and yeah, yeah, okay, twenty years. Look, really, I really can't.

1256
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 23: I can't call what the state of play was at

1257
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 23: the time with over stays and how big an issue

1258
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 23: it was, because you know, I'm sure the policy was

1259
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 23: in reaction to some you know, to some issue with

1260
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 23: overstays and some data showing that it was a problem.

1261
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 23: I just can't call what the details enough agree with you.

1262
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 23: It's an unlabour thing to do.

1263
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 13: I agree.

1264
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 3: It's it's only fair enough that we give you a

1265
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 3: bit of a pass. It has been twenty years. We'll

1266
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 3: take a break come back. Shortly sixteen sixteen away from sixty.

1267
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: With New Zealand, the be International Realty achieve extraordinary results

1268
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: with unparallel reach.

1269
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 3: Back with the huddle, David Farrah, Mike win rode, David,

1270
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 3: what did you think of Jenny Anderson saying that none

1271
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: of the New Zealand verst has never been around the

1272
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 3: cabinet table.

1273
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 21: It was very bizarre because a they were around the

1274
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 21: cabinet table, not just in the last government. They were

1275
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 21: around the cabinet table and the first National New Zealand

1276
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 21: First Coalition and Jim Anderson was round the cabinet table

1277
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 21: and depth keep Home minister for the entire nine years

1278
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 21: of the Clark Game. The ten MMP governments, you've had

1279
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 21: people from minor parties around the cabinet table in six

1280
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 21: out of ten.

1281
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 3: Okay, So Mike, can you explain what's going on with Jinny?

1282
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 23: Oh no, Look I can't. It was a real brain fade.

1283
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 16: It really was.

1284
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 23: Maybe she had a stressful ride into work this morning

1285
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 23: on a and you know she just wasn't thinking straight.

1286
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 23: Like like David says, right from the beginning, we've had

1287
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 23: coalition of partners in cabinet, right from the fi that

1288
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 23: Jim Bolder made Whinston Peters's treasurer back in nineteen ninety six.

1289
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 23: And there's a whole list of the medicine. So look, yeah,

1290
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 23: a brain fade and there's really no explanation I can provide, David.

1291
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 3: I don't want to be too unkind to Jinny because look,

1292
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 3: we all make mistakes and we say stupid stuff and

1293
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 3: we feel a bit stink, And she'll be feeling a

1294
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 3: bit stink right now. Is everybody's laughing at her? But

1295
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 3: she's not the strongest, is she? So why do they

1296
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 3: keep putting her up and giving her good portfolios?

1297
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 13: Well?

1298
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 21: I tried to be a bit tied to you when

1299
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 21: I say, you have to look at the rest of

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Speaker 21: the team. See you've got The reality is she's a

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Speaker 21: former Minister of Justice, Minister of Police et sect. She's

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Speaker 21: often very good communicator, but she does every three to

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Speaker 21: four months she says something just a bit horrendous. Are

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Speaker 21: you know there was one with Mark Minchell. It's totally

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Speaker 21: backfired on her, etc.

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Speaker 6: Everyone makes when.

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Speaker 3: People was that, yeah, ye tell me, Yeah.

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Speaker 16: Do you learn from you my stakes?

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Speaker 21: Do you become more cautious when you're speaking to the

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Speaker 21: media and if you're not sure about something, say, I'll

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Speaker 21: just have to check that. I don't think we're seeing

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Speaker 21: those learnings coming through.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you might be right. Hey, now, Mike,

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Speaker 3: what's gone on? Do you think with Elon Musk and

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Speaker 3: the Dawn?

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Speaker 23: Well, look, Elon Musk has you don't become the world's

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Speaker 23: richest person by dancing to someone else's tune. And I think,

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Speaker 23: you know, Musk has worked out that that this man

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Speaker 23: is a bit of a fraud. He's a bully, he's

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Speaker 23: a liar, he's conceited, and so he's probably had enough. Look, look,

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Speaker 23: it's no surprise. During during the first Trump presidency, the

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Speaker 23: turnover rates were astronomical. I think each year. I saw

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Speaker 23: some data that show that something like seventy eighty ninety

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Speaker 23: percent was the norm for the turn Yeah, each year,

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Speaker 23: and for most presidents is down in the thirty forty

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Speaker 23: percent area. So, you know, this guy Trump is difficult

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Speaker 23: to work with. He can only be tolerated for so long.

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Speaker 23: And Musk has got better things to do. He's he's

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Speaker 23: you know, he's got an empire to run, and as

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Speaker 23: I say, he's not going to sit around dancing to

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Speaker 23: someone else's tune.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is it?

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Speaker 6: Do you?

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Speaker 3: I mean, David, when you look at this is it

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Speaker 3: kind of interesting timing because it is at the end

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Speaker 3: of the period that he's entitled to occupy that job

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Speaker 3: for being one hundred and thirty days. But then on

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Speaker 3: the way out he starts criticizing Trump, Trump and the

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Speaker 3: one big beautiful Bill and stuff like that. What's going

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Speaker 3: on here? Do you reckon? Is it just the end

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Speaker 3: of his time or is actually a breakdown?

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Speaker 16: Totally expected.

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Speaker 21: I thought he'd last ninety hundred days and he lasts

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Speaker 21: one hundred and twenty. They actually had prediction markets on

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Speaker 21: how long he would last, and most people thought it

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Speaker 21: would be around three months, because, as Mike said, is

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Speaker 21: when you're useful to Trump, you go and you do

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Speaker 21: some stuff.

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Speaker 16: You take the heat, but then Trump will listen to

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Speaker 16: someone else.

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Speaker 21: The next day. And he just got to a point

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Speaker 21: where it's like, Okay, I've achieved a wee back here,

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Speaker 21: but now I've got beata things to do. I don't

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Speaker 21: think it's an angry split with Trump, but I think

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Speaker 21: it just shows he's his own person and he actually

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Speaker 21: has some pretty big companies to run.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some very important ones. Hey guys, thank you appreciated

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Speaker 3: the pair of you. David Farraki, we blogging curier poster,

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Speaker 3: Mike Munroe, former Chief of Staff to just Sindern. And

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Speaker 3: by the way, Texas birthright citizenship ending, which happened in

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Speaker 3: two thousand and six, was part of Labour's coalition deal

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Speaker 3: with New Zealand First, So it'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 3: if they can actually unwind it. Because who's in government

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Speaker 3: again this time? It's right, who's in government again this time?

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Speaker 3: Jinny now same as last time, New Zealand First, nine

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Speaker 3: away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Ard Radio powered by News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Don Braid, main freight boss is going to be with

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Speaker 3: us after six o'clock. Look, okay, On the tariffs, there

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Speaker 3: are questions and everybody's trying to figure out exactly how

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Speaker 3: this is actually going to work and whether it actually

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Speaker 3: means all of the tariffs are off or whether the

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Speaker 3: tariffs are still there, and there'll be there'll be there

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Speaker 3: will be Ministry of Foreign Affairs wonks just pouring over

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Speaker 3: this detail right now. But it seems on early reporting

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Speaker 3: that it appears that all of the tariffs that's been

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Speaker 3: slapped the block is on the tariffs that have been

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Speaker 3: slapped on the trading partner. So China Mexico, Canada, ourselves,

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Speaker 3: that ten percent one that's been blocked. That is what

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Speaker 3: has been stopped. Is that kind of Trump just unilaterally

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Speaker 3: putting tariffs on the whole wide world. The other tariffs

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Speaker 3: that he's placed on specific things like foreign steel or

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Speaker 3: aluminium or auto's or whatever, they will continue because they

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Speaker 3: have been used, they've been invoked under a different law.

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Speaker 3: So fingers crossed, maybe the tariff thing is over. And

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Speaker 3: and David Axelrod, who used to work for President Obama,

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Speaker 3: has made the point that this is actually perhaps not

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Speaker 3: a black eye like a lot of people will look

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Speaker 3: at this as say, it's a black guy for Donald Trump,

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Speaker 3: he can't do what he wants to do. But David

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Speaker 3: Axelrod reckons, actually, maybe this is the break that dune

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Speaker 3: Trump needs to be able to get out of the

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Speaker 3: tariffs thing, because he doesn't actually want to do the

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Speaker 3: tariffs thing because actually what he wants is a fizzing

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Speaker 3: economy and this is doing quite the opposite. It's not

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Speaker 3: going to give him the fizzing economy. So maybe he's

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Speaker 3: got what he wants, which is that he's been seen

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Speaker 3: to try to do something, and now he can get

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Speaker 3: out of it. On Elon Musk as well. There was

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Speaker 3: a really good article in the Wall Street Journal or

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Speaker 3: the Washington Post, one of those two I can't quite

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Speaker 3: remember which is in the papers here in New Zealand

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Speaker 3: at the weekend, basically suggesting that what's happened, in part

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Speaker 3: to Muscers is she just had a guts full of politics,

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Speaker 3: seemed like a nice idea, got into it. Not as

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Speaker 3: fun as he thought, bit of blow like, way too

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Speaker 3: much blowback for his companies, more than he expected. And

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Speaker 3: you can kind of see like it seems to have

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Speaker 3: unraveled really quickly for him because as many as recently

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Speaker 3: as just a few weeks ago, he was still talking

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Speaker 3: about that pack that he'd set up, the America Pack,

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Speaker 3: being heavily involved in the twenty twenty six mid term

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Speaker 3: elections and also weighing in on the district attorney races

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Speaker 3: across the country and all kinds of stuff, spending money

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Speaker 3: and blah blah blah. And now he's just decided has

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Speaker 3: any in recent just in recent days, he's decided that's

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Speaker 3: he's basically spent all the money he wants to and

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Speaker 3: he doesn't want to spend that much anymore. And he's

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Speaker 3: kind of achieved his goals. So he is very quickly

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Speaker 3: falling out of love with politics, it would seem. Anyway.

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Speaker 3: We'll have a chat to Don Braid see if he

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Speaker 3: has any insight as to what happens with the tariffs.

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Speaker 3: The Green Parrot that haunt famously a haunt of Winston

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Speaker 3: Peters I read today has not sold. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you realize this, but the Green Parrot corner of

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Speaker 3: Taranaki and the other funny little street in Wellington has

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Speaker 3: been on the market, been for sale for two years

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Speaker 3: and the owners who've had it for a very very

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Speaker 3: long time have decided to pull it off the market

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Speaker 3: because they say they haven't found an appropriate buy it,

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Speaker 3: buy it for it, and so that's still going to

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Speaker 3: be running it now. This place is an icon, right

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Speaker 3: you'll know it. It's been around since nineteen twenty six,

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Speaker 3: so it's coming up one hundred years very shortly. But

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Speaker 3: can I suggest that their pricing is a little out

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Speaker 3: of whack because they've reached their menus. Pleased to see,

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Speaker 3: but I had a quick zoom bride in to have

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Speaker 3: a look at the prices. Phill at Steak at the

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Speaker 3: Green Parrot fifty five dollars, the Sirloin's steak fifty dollars,

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Speaker 3: Wiener Schnitzel forty two dollars. There's price pricing for just

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Speaker 3: a little you know, like a little book with a

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Speaker 3: little crummy thing on the side like that. You just

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Speaker 3: get that out of the freezer, can't you. That's pricey.

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Speaker 3: Souvlaki kabab forty two dollars. Forty two dollars for a

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Speaker 3: kebab is a big price, I would venture anyway. I

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Speaker 3: just wonder if maybe, because that was always my complaint

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Speaker 3: about the Green Parrot was it had like Chinese restaurant vibes,

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Speaker 3: but high end bistro prices, and I don't know that

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Speaker 3: those two things go together.

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Speaker 1: News is next, keeping track of where the money is

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Speaker 1: flowing the business hour with hither duplessyl and players, insurance

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Speaker 1: and investments, Grow your wealth, protect your future.

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Speaker 4: News talks at be.

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Speaker 3: Evening coming up in the next hour. We've got Jamie

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Speaker 3: mckaye talking us through Fonterra, We've got Sam Dickie talking

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Speaker 3: us through the tariffs, and we've got Enda Brady talking

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01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 3: us through everything out of the UK. Right now, it's

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Speaker 3: seven past six now. Logistics Company Mainfreight has posted a

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Speaker 3: pretty solid result, but it's facing the headwinds of international uncertainty.

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Speaker 3: Annual net profit was up nearly a third on the

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Speaker 3: previous year. Profits were down in Asia, America and New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: On the upside, though, Australia is turning out to be

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Speaker 3: a bit of a winner. Don Braid is the general

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Speaker 3: manager of main Freighting with.

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Speaker 4: Us now, Hey Don, Hey, Heather, who are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm very well, thank you? What is going on in Australia?

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Speaker 7: I was taking us twenty eight years to get there,

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Speaker 7: and some of the media and some of the analyst

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Speaker 7: community thought that we'd bought a dog back in nineteen

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Speaker 7: ninety eight. Well, the dog's barking. It's good.

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Speaker 3: It hasn't taken you that long to turn it around, though,

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Speaker 3: has it?

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Speaker 7: No, not at all, But you know, it's come of

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Speaker 7: age and it's now even though New Zealand continues to

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Speaker 7: produce a really good profit for us and at high margin,

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Speaker 7: just as a consequence of the size of the market

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Speaker 7: and our presence and the great job that our people

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Speaker 7: have done in Australia where it's now our biggest revenue

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Speaker 7: and profit maker.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic stuff now have you had a chance to look

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Speaker 3: at what this court ruling means for the tariffs.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I'm the same as the court ruling about the

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Speaker 7: migrants that have been re exported or whatever I suggest,

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Speaker 7: and the Harvard rules. Who knows what would happen. The

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Speaker 7: key for us is that we focus on business and

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Speaker 7: what that means for our customers, and we'll do whatever

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Speaker 7: we can to keep the supply chains open for them.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, I mean, do your customers just

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Speaker 3: act as if like do they just assume the tariffs

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Speaker 3: are still on and keep going in the same kind

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Speaker 3: of vein?

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Speaker 15: Oh?

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Speaker 6: No, interesting.

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Speaker 7: I've just come back from a week of sales up

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Speaker 7: there into the US and Canada, and you know, there's

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Speaker 7: a really a lot of question marks, a lot of

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01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 7: indecision for both importers, particularly in America, and certainly a

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Speaker 7: bit of anger and independence forming in the Canadian business market.

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Speaker 7: But I think they'll take advantage, or they are taking

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Speaker 7: advantage of the pores in tariffs. We're seeing bookings for June,

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01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 7: you know, up fifty to eighty odd percent, and as

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Speaker 7: a consequence, the shipping rates are moving up as well.

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Speaker 7: But they are moving as much stock as they possibly

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Speaker 7: can get their hands on, because they are uncertain as

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Speaker 7: to what will happen when the you know, moratorium on

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Speaker 7: the tariffs is up.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so what just trying to fill up those warehouses.

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Speaker 3: Well they've got the chance.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well whatever, Well they've got the small tariff in place,

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Speaker 7: they're better to bring the product in. But there's a

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01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 7: lot of indecision as to what will happen post the

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01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 7: tariff deadline.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this could backfire, couldn't it, because they might

1515
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 3: have been they might be moving really fast to try

1516
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 3: to fill the warehouses up at the moment and all

1517
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 3: of a sudden the tariffs are off all together. Potentially.

1518
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1519
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 7: But of course, in when the tariffs came on on

1520
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 7: whatever you call it, Liberation Day, April and May saw

1521
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 7: a lot of bookings halted. So you know, nothing moved

1522
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 7: during April. Well it's wrong for me to say nothing,

1523
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 7: but reduced tonnagees moved in April and May, and they're

1524
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 7: trying to make up ground during June and July.

1525
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, don listen. I always appreciate your thoughts on politics

1526
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 3: here in New Zealand. What did you make Why are

1527
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 3: you laughing?

1528
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 6: John?

1529
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 2: Oh?

1530
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 4: Because not much?

1531
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 7: It was all good.

1532
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 24: I mean, we had some inane questions from analysts today

1533
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 24: as we've presented our year end, asking if the twenty

1534
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 24: percent was an encouragement to open.

1535
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 7: More cross stocks and warehouses, and you know, I think

1536
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 7: that's a mistake. I mean, let's not forget that the government,

1537
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 7: through it took the text the depreciation on buildings off

1538
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 7: in March of last year, which actually cost us a

1539
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 7: lot of money in terms of that net profit. And

1540
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 7: just for your records, you know that was an increase

1541
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 7: in net profit, but that was after abnormals of last year.

1542
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 7: It's the profit before text that really matters. So I

1543
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 7: don't know that twenty percent didn't mean much for us.

1544
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 7: We'll get on and do what we've got to do anyway. Otherwise,

1545
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 7: I don't know. There wasn't much other highlights in.

1546
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 16: It, was it?

1547
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1548
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I don't want to be I don't

1549
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 3: always want to be bummed out about these guys and

1550
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 3: bumming people out about them. But I can't see a vision.

1551
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 3: Do you see a vision for the economy from this

1552
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 3: coalition government?

1553
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 7: Well, they keep talking about that growth vision and that's

1554
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 7: a good thing. And I think that as us in

1555
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 7: business have got to continue to do that. We've I mean,

1556
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 7: you know, talking about an export lead recovery, and maybe

1557
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 7: that is, but it's at the big end of towns,

1558
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 7: in the apples, it's in.

1559
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 4: The dairy, and it's in the kiwi fruit.

1560
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 7: It's not in the normal everyday export who is working

1561
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 7: hard to get their products off shore. We're not seeing

1562
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 7: those people benefiting at all. So there is some indecision

1563
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 7: around that global economy. I just like them to get

1564
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 7: things done. I mean, come back to your comment about

1565
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 7: the road cones earlier, I mean, why don't they just

1566
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 7: get that sorted? Why doesn't Simmy and Brown make your

1567
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 7: decision and get them bad?

1568
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 8: But that hasn't happened, is it?

1569
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: No?

1570
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 3: Exactly, thank you. There's too much announcing and rennouncing and

1571
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 3: re announcing and re announcing, and we're sitting here waiting

1572
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 3: for the thing to happen. Don, as always, I love

1573
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 3: chatting to you. Look after yourself, Don Braid, Main Freight

1574
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 3: General Manager, Geez. The road cones here the last week

1575
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 3: and Upper Hut I counted one hundred road cones and

1576
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 3: a set of temporary traffic lights over about forty meters

1577
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 3: to patch a piece of backstreet to patch a water

1578
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 3: toby repair. It's absolutely taking the piss, thank you higher,

1579
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 3: isn't it just? I mean, honestly, this makes you cross,

1580
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 3: doesn't it.

1581
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 6: Hey?

1582
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 3: Do you remember a couple of years ago we had

1583
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 3: the Air New Zealand plane that do you remember the

1584
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 3: plane that drifted off the runway and it smashed into

1585
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 3: six runway lights and it blew a tire and it

1586
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,759
Speaker 3: broke some of its fuse lage or something like that. Anyway,

1587
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 3: it was a bit of one of those ones went

1588
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 3: off the runway. It was coming in from the Melbourne.

1589
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 3: It was a bit it was a bit stormy, but

1590
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 3: generally they can handle a bit of a And remember

1591
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 3: they said, oh the runway was weeat and We're like, oh,

1592
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 3: how unusual. Anyway, whatever, We just got the Transport Accident

1593
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 3: Investigation Commission report into what went wrong and you know,

1594
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna believe it. It's autopilots again, I mean,

1595
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 3: how many autopilots, Like what is going wrong with autopilot?

1596
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 3: Remember the autopilot was the thing that took the ferry

1597
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 3: and beached it in the sounds. The autopilot was why

1598
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 3: the naval vessels sunk in some or now the autopilot.

1599
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 3: What are we doing wrong with autopilot? Anyway? Apparently what

1600
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 3: happened is the actual human pilot was they were coming

1601
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 3: into land and the pilot was like, look better, turn

1602
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 3: off the autopilot. Turned off the autopilot too late, which

1603
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 3: means the pilot didn't have enough time to then, you know,

1604
01:13:56,040 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 3: manually make sure that the aircraft's flight path was correct

1605
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 3: before landing. Anyway, Look, three is a pattern, right, I'm

1606
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 3: just saying three is a pattern. New Zealand. Come on now,

1607
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 3: we've been doing autopilot for a while, just to have

1608
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 3: a little think about it. Let's try to do a

1609
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 3: bit better because it's a lot now, isn't It's getting

1610
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,679
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Speaker 3: Hither the autopilots are now demanding pay equity, Well why not,

1636
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 3: We're relying on them so much. Hither the Green Parrot

1637
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 3: is an institution. It's pricy, yes, but the meals are massive,

1638
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 3: and you get a complimentary loaf of cheap, fresh white

1639
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 3: bread and a side of butter. They have to claw

1640
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 3: back of the butter the cost of the butter. Somehow,

1641
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 3: that is a fair point that you make. I mean,

1642
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 3: I was at cheap loaf of white bread. I thought,

1643
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 3: Jesus is you're struggling to string the argument together here.

1644
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 3: But then you hit me with the butter price, and

1645
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 3: I thought, Jesus, I wonder that they're only charging you

1646
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 3: fifty five dollars for that stake. Why not eighty given

1647
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 3: the price of butter. Now, look, this is a little

1648
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 3: bit heavy what I want to talk to you about,

1649
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 3: but I think we need to talk about this. And

1650
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 3: I have deliberately left this until the children are hopefully

1651
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 3: not in the car with you, so we can have

1652
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,560
Speaker 3: a little chat about this, because I think this is

1653
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 3: an adult conversation that clearly needs to happen. There is

1654
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 3: a chap called Rob Berg who is the president of

1655
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 3: the Jewish National Fund New Zealand, and he's just written

1656
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 3: an editorial in the Papers which was published today and

1657
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 3: it has the subject line jew hatred is becoming acceptable

1658
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 3: and what he's basically referring to is everything that's happening

1659
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 3: at the moment around the world to Jewish people. Now

1660
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 3: there is a distinction, and I that I even have

1661
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 3: to make this distinction is kind of remarkable, But there

1662
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 3: is a distinction between Jewish people and the state of Israel. Right,

1663
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 3: not talking about the state of Israel. Here, we are

1664
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 3: talking about Jewish people. He's referred to everything that's happening

1665
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 3: to Jewish people at the moment. You got the gunning

1666
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 3: down of the embassy couple in Washington, DC. Bunch of

1667
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 3: stuff that's going on. But also, and in particular, the

1668
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 3: graffiti the other day in Wellington's ro Valley. I don't

1669
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 3: know if you saw this, but when I saw it,

1670
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 3: I was shocked. On the side of the road on

1671
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,839
Speaker 3: a big wall, you know how they have like walls

1672
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 3: and weird stuff going on in Wellington. On the side

1673
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 3: of the wall, somebody had written in yellow paint. I

1674
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 3: hated Jews before it was cool. I saw that the

1675
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 3: other day in the papast I thought, what the hell

1676
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 3: is going on here? I thought, wait for it, where's

1677
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 3: the outrage? Nothing? Just shrugged off right, It's just like

1678
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 3: it's totally cool now apparently to hate Jewish people and

1679
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 3: and in fact, you want to sort of burnish your credentials,

1680
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 3: don't you as hating them before everybody else started hating them?

1681
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 3: He wrote, we have been harrised, our kids abused, and

1682
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 3: due hatred is once again becoming acceptable in academia, in

1683
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 3: the unions, and in politics. It seems to be worse

1684
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 3: than anywhere else. Discussion of Israel and its ongoing responses

1685
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 3: is fine, but fanning the flames of anti Semitism is not.

1686
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 7: Now.

1687
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 3: I'm glad that he has written that, and I agree

1688
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 3: with what he's had to say there, because I was

1689
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 3: horrified when I read that graffiti. What I want you

1690
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 3: to think about, if you have a minute, and if

1691
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 3: you care about this, just think about how did we

1692
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 3: get to a place where it is acceptable to hate

1693
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 3: Jewish people publicly Jewish people specifically, because for a very

1694
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 3: very long time they were very much off limits because

1695
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 3: of what had happened in the nineteen thirties and nineteen

1696
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 3: forties and in preceding decades to Jewish people right for

1697
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 3: a while, they were like, very very verboltan, you do

1698
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 3: not make jokes about Jewish people. It's now flipped completely.

1699
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 3: But also imagine that that was written about any other

1700
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 3: ethnicity and tell me that the media and society in

1701
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 3: general would have just shrugged it off like that. I

1702
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 3: just think we have a little bit of thinking to do.

1703
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 3: And maybe if we are the ones seeing this happen

1704
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 3: but are calling out to do, do you not think

1705
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 3: six twenty.

1706
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Speaker 3: Twenty four past sext Jamie McKay, Host of the Countries

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Speaker 3: with US JME got I hear that how good is Fonterra?

1710
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 2: Pretty damn good, especially if you're a Fonterra farmer. Shareholder's

1711
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 2: about ten thousand of them around the country, and I

1712
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 2: reckon they'll be turning up in Hamilton Heather in a

1713
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 2: couple of weeks time and possibly spending up large, especially

1714
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: when you consider the new tax incentive scheme put in

1715
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 2: place in the budget by the government. But getting back

1716
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 2: to Fonterra today, look, ten dollars is locked and loaded.

1717
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 2: That's the worst world's worst secret for this season, which

1718
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 2: we're going to finish on what Saturday night Sunday morning.

1719
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 2: The really interesting number and the most eagerly awaited number

1720
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 2: from their Q three update today was the forecast opening

1721
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: price for the twenty five twenty sixth season, and they

1722
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 2: came in at ten dollars, which was probably, I think

1723
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 2: above market expectation. Their range is quite wide. They've gone

1724
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 2: eight dollars to eleven dollars. Midpoint of that would obviously

1725
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 2: be nine fifty. But Miles Hurrell saying, look, we see

1726
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 2: really positive signs despite everything that's happening in the world

1727
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 2: geo politically out there. So if dairy farmers can get

1728
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 2: ten dollars two years in a row, that's great for them.

1729
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: It's great for the rural economy, and it's great for

1730
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 2: New Zealand's economy because they are our biggest business. The

1731
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,640
Speaker 2: other numbers out there, Heather, the dividend, I mean, they

1732
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 2: get the milk price that's ten bucks. What will the

1733
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 2: dividend be while judging on what Miles Hurrell was saying

1734
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 2: on my show that it could be up around fifty cents,

1735
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 2: And I looked at the share price today, Heather, it

1736
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 2: closed at four dollars sixty four. So if you get

1737
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 2: a fifty cent yield on that, that's a fifty cent dividend.

1738
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 2: Should I say that's an eleven percent year old? Really interesting?

1739
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 2: And the other one out there that I threw at

1740
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 2: Miles Hurrell and he kind of duckted to cover a

1741
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 2: wee bit. Wouldn't put a number on it. Obviously it's

1742
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 2: too early. But when they flag off the consumer brand's

1743
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 2: business that's going to be it looks like quite a

1744
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: wind for for Fonterra shareholders. They might get back as

1745
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 2: much as two dollars per share. So at four dollars

1746
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 2: sixty four take away two dollars the shares don't know

1747
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 2: them much, but do remember, Heather, a few years ago

1748
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 2: they were at six bucks, So some people who bought

1749
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 2: on a high I have got a weep bit of

1750
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 2: catching up today.

1751
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Parentop, what are you buying at Peel Days?

1752
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 20: Well?

1753
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 2: Nothing really. I was going to say a Queen Street farmer, Heather,

1754
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 2: but that's not quite right. I'm a George Street farmer

1755
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: here in Dunedin. So now look, I literally turn up there,

1756
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 2: do my show, do my interviews, do the client stuff

1757
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,600
Speaker 2: and then walk out. The only thing I spend in

1758
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 2: Hamilton is probably in a bar later on the evening.

1759
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 2: It's a very social event.

1760
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 3: How good, Jamie thank you as always, it's wonderful to

1761
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 3: talk to you.

1762
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 7: Go.

1763
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 3: Well, it's Jamie McKay, Host of the Country. Hey, do

1764
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 3: you remember actually I need your help with this answer

1765
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 3: came now. The reason I'm coming to you is not

1766
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 3: because you're the only male in the team in the

1767
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 3: studio at the moment. Therefore you like biologically to stand

1768
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 3: technology better than the women.

1769
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 4: Right.

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01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 9: Oh, I was going to repeat that from a s

1771
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 9: Is it possible for your.

1772
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 3: Phone to turn itself onto silent mode?

1773
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 4: Turn itself?

1774
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 3: Can I just turn itself onto somethe So the.

1775
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 9: Thing is, I've only ever used a galaxy, so I

1776
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,799
Speaker 9: don't know whether Apple has some sort of magic special

1777
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 9: thing where it's which is itself?

1778
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 3: Does it happen to you German? Italy happened to Okay,

1779
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 3: so thank you. Do you remember that big fire that

1780
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 3: happened to he throw a couple of months back that

1781
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 3: shut the airport for hours and all the planes were

1782
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 3: disrupted and stuff. Oh it turns out no one could

1783
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 3: get hold of the chief executive to handle it because

1784
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 3: he was asleep and his phone was on silent right,

1785
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 3: which is sort of like I mean, you'll be like, well,

1786
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 3: fair enough, the man needs sleep, but the excuses after

1787
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 3: an internal inquiry found that the chief executive was absent

1788
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 3: from the early decisions made in response to the crisis

1789
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 3: because his phone had quote gone into silent mode without

1790
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,560
Speaker 3: him being aware it had done so, and he was

1791
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 3: asleep at the time.

1792
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 9: Oh so someone else put it on silent.

1793
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 3: Pull another one, but they bought it. They're going along

1794
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 3: with the with them. Oh, come off it, guys. If

1795
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 3: he can't work his phone, I don't have confidence in

1796
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 3: him working the heath throw do you know what I mean?

1797
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 3: Police headlines next.

1798
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: To everything from SMS to the big corporates, the Business

1799
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and Mass Insurance and investments,

1800
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: Grow your wealth, Protect your future, youth talks that'd.

1801
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 8: Be tell't you be.

1802
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 12: America?

1803
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 3: Right into Bradies with us out of the UK and

1804
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 3: ten minutes time. Hither many texts like this Hither. Actually,

1805
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 3: the iPhone does go into silent model by itself. If

1806
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 3: you have a recurring sleep time sett in your phone,

1807
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 3: which is under the health app. Thank you, KEM. I

1808
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 3: use it to record my sleep time and my alarm

1809
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 3: in the morning. It's linked my eye watch, So in

1810
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 3: a nutshell, it's completely reasonable explanation. Hang on, attack though,

1811
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 3: did you think I didn't know that that can happen?

1812
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,680
Speaker 3: I use that thing too, But hang on a take,

1813
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,640
Speaker 3: that's not the problem. That is you set that up

1814
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 3: to do that you set That's still your choice, isn't it,

1815
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 3: Because Cam you go, I want to go. I want

1816
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 3: you to go into sleep mode at nine pm and

1817
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 3: wake me up at four am because I'm a high achiever, right,

1818
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 3: So that's you've set that up. He was all like, oh,

1819
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 3: I just lay down and went to sleep on my

1820
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 3: phone by itself, went into sleep mode. Come off at

1821
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 3: By the way, Lord's turned up at the AMAS. She's

1822
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 3: at the Alts here or Music Awards and is absolutely go.

1823
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 3: People are just going to fizz at the big one

1824
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 3: of one of the big stars being there. So yeay

1825
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 3: for everybody who's there, including Chris Bishop officely twenty three

1826
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 3: away from seven.

1827
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 4: Do for Cellen.

1828
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 3: More uncertainty obviously around Donald Trump's tariff's water repeating headline.

1829
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 3: A federal trade court in the US is today blocked

1830
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 3: his tariffs on nearly every country in the world. Sam

1831
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 3: Dickey from Fisher Funds has actually just come back from

1832
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 3: a few weeks in the US and is with us

1833
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 3: a sam.

1834
01:24:58,800 --> 01:24:59,600
Speaker 1: So what do you know?

1835
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 3: I mean, now the tariff's off completely, Now I will

1836
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 3: back down to zero. What's going on?

1837
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 10: Definitely a stick in the spokes of Trump's tariff plan,

1838
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 10: and the market liked it a little bit, so stop

1839
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 10: market was up about one percent. But remember there was

1840
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,600
Speaker 10: a strong and video result after market as well, so

1841
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 10: in the US dollar rallied a little bit. I mean,

1842
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 10: the White House appealed. If it goes all the way

1843
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 10: to the Supreme Court, who knows there is a conservative majority.

1844
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 10: I just think it's another headline whipsaw.

1845
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 3: So at the moment, do we assume do we proceed

1846
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 3: as if, like from New Zealand's perspective, do you think

1847
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 3: we proceed as if we're still got the ten percent

1848
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 3: on us?

1849
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 16: I think so. I think that's what I mean. That's

1850
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 16: the feedback from that.

1851
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,679
Speaker 10: A lot of companies we got over there is they're

1852
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 10: proceeding as though there's going to be this uncertainty will

1853
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 10: last for months and there will be tariffs at least

1854
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 10: at the headline rate.

1855
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 3: Okay, what are the people on the ground thinking about

1856
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 3: about this?

1857
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 10: There was a huge narrative shift while I was there

1858
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 10: So if you remember when I first went over there,

1859
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 10: it was back in April, and it was as simple

1860
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 10: as these policies are unhinged. It's doing irreparable damage to

1861
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 10: USA Inc. It's going to permanently impact our ability to

1862
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 10: be a trusted partner of Asia in Europe, and it's

1863
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 10: the end of US been an exceptional place to invest.

1864
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 10: Now by the end of the trip, similar people so

1865
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 10: this his companies, industry experts, politicians were saying, he's a

1866
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 10: pretty smart negotiator, strong opening gambit, and he can.

1867
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 16: Expertly walk back from the brink.

1868
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 10: So it's another reminder the market is irrational from time

1869
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 10: to time, and sentiment swings with a breeze.

1870
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 3: So are you telling me that people have started to

1871
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 3: come around to the idea that maybe he's actually not

1872
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 3: doing something stupid.

1873
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I think most people agree that most of

1874
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 10: the things he's trying to do makes sense.

1875
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 16: So it makes sense to cut the fat out of

1876
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 16: the federal government.

1877
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,839
Speaker 10: Yeah, healthcare spinning, for example, twenty percent of GDP OECD

1878
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 10: average nine percent is a horrific amount of waste in there,

1879
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 10: you know, stopping people pouring across the border unchecked, that

1880
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 10: probably makes sense. Trying to slow down the deficits and

1881
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 10: get the outer controlled debt under control. All these things

1882
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 10: make sense, but most people think his methods are a

1883
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 10: non politician like and a.

1884
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 4: Bit of ratic.

1885
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's the thing that's definitely freaking people out,

1886
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 3: isn't it. Now Do we have any handle just yet

1887
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 3: on what the actual impact is going to be on

1888
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 3: global growth, on what the actual impact is going to

1889
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 3: be on inflation? Are we seeing this happen yet?

1890
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 10: So, just rewinding to mid April, so economists thought the

1891
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 10: US economy would flirt with recession the second half, so

1892
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 10: growth would fall to around zero point five percent. Consumers

1893
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 10: like you and I own businesses sat on their hands

1894
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:49,719
Speaker 10: amidst the sort of extraordinary uncertainty. But being in the US,

1895
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 10: the best real time indicators of growth are credit card

1896
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 10: companies and rail companies.

1897
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 16: So we met MasterCard, for example, and they've.

1898
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 10: Got a brilliant bird's eye view of the US consumer,

1899
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 10: and they were telling us that the consumer was still

1900
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 10: solid as at early May. And then Warren Buffett said,

1901
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 10: if he disappeared to a desert island for five years,

1902
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 10: the key indicator he'd take to tell him the health

1903
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 10: of the US economy would be weekly rail data, and

1904
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 10: the rail companies we were meeting were saying that things

1905
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 10: were still strong as at early May. And on the

1906
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 10: inflation side, none of the companies are seen inflation show

1907
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 10: up yet.

1908
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 16: So we don't know why that is. Is it just

1909
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 16: because it's early days. Is it because.

1910
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:32,719
Speaker 10: Importers have power over Asian suppliers and they're forcing suppliers

1911
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 10: to eat some of the terriffs by lowering their prices.

1912
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 16: We don't know. It could be the calm before the storm,

1913
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 16: but so far, so good.

1914
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,919
Speaker 3: Okay, So what does this mean for investors?

1915
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 10: The water's definitely slotted from the bearish end of the

1916
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 10: bathtub at the bullushe in. So remember April eighth, the

1917
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 10: fear gauges we track whereas bears as they've been in

1918
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,560
Speaker 10: sort of quarter of a century, and there was just

1919
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 10: that indiscriminate selling. We talked about a great buy an

1920
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,759
Speaker 10: opportunity for long term patient investors. Now the US market

1921
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 10: and this is where the narrative shift came is up

1922
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 10: twenty five percent in six weeks, so the risks are

1923
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 10: more balanced, and I do think, regardless of this court ruling,

1924
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 10: is still a lot of water to go under the bridge.

1925
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 10: So I think while companies are not feeling the pinch yet,

1926
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 10: we should keep watching the space closely.

1927
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 3: Good stuff, Sam, It's always good to talk to you.

1928
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 3: Talk to you again soon. Look after yourself, Sam, Dicky

1929
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 3: Fisher Funds Heather Alas As I said, Lord, just on

1930
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 3: the red carpet at the AMA's obvious question about last

1931
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 3: night's toilet gig, I.

1932
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 4: Need to ask why.

1933
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: Never asked?

1934
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 2: Why?

1935
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 7: You know?

1936
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 12: I can't.

1937
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 3: I can't tell you the answer, just the vibe. I'm

1938
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,839
Speaker 3: I'm just a rockster. I just can't answer these questions.

1939
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 3: Why is New Zealand not on the tourist.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is a good question, but I would go

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Speaker 1: on the fact that I have never missed a New

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Speaker 1: Zealand toy.

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Speaker 11: You know, I think it's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Hi, there go. How are you feeling about that? Sam? Yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: double th that's that was a thumbs up. And then

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Speaker 3: I'm la that came out of his mouth. Of course,

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Speaker 3: she's not going to leave New Zealand off what But

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Speaker 3: it's just it's just bit of just just whetting our

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Speaker 3: app a site and just making us get a bit

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Speaker 3: hungry for it. Before she gives it to us. Hey,

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Speaker 3: Paul Goldsmith on TV and Z. Just a little shout

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Speaker 3: out for Paul Goldsmith because I actually think that he's

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Speaker 3: doing not a half bad job.

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Speaker 21: I mean not.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's gonna agree with me because of the you know,

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Speaker 3: the stuff that's going on with trying to pay make

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Speaker 3: the big companies pay for you know, the ads and

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Speaker 3: blah blah blah. But I think he's not doing a

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Speaker 3: half bad job, just putting a bit of pressure on

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Speaker 3: the old public public broadcasters because he's already you know,

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Speaker 3: used the budget documents to say to R and Z, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: lift your game, which you do judging by the survey

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Speaker 3: results of the audience numbers we saw the other day, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you need to lift your game. But also has now

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Speaker 3: kind of put the pressure just gently on TV and

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Speaker 3: Z as well and said that he's expecting a dividend

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Speaker 3: in the next two to three years. He's not banking

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Speaker 3: on it immediately, but his strong challenge to the board

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Speaker 3: is that he needs to see a path to getting

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Speaker 3: back to paying a dividend. And I think we would

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Speaker 3: all like to haven't paid a dividend since what is it,

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Speaker 3: like twenty twenty two or something like that. I like

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Speaker 3: that he's putting the pressure these guys. They are taking

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Speaker 3: government money after all, aren't they or not paying it?

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Speaker 3: Sixteen away from seven.

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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you

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Speaker 1: the business hour with him, the due for cl and

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Speaker 1: Mayor's insurance and investments, grow your wealth, protect your future

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Speaker 1: news talks, it'd be right.

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Speaker 3: And of course Inder Brady's still running that we're the

1981
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Speaker 3: race that he's doing. So at thirteen to seven we

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Speaker 3: have Elizabeth Callahan, how are UK corresponding to?

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth?

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Speaker 25: Hi, how are you doing?

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Speaker 11: Have a very well?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? What's the latest on the Liverpool car remming?

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Speaker 25: So yes, this horrific event happened on Monday evening during

1989
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Speaker 25: Liverpool's parade to celebrate their Premier League win, and so

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Speaker 25: police have been given more time to question the man

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Speaker 25: suspected of driving this car into a crowd of people.

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Speaker 25: They have until today, so we'll have more on that

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Speaker 25: later today, whether he's going to be charged or not.

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Speaker 25: But he has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder,

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Speaker 25: dangerous driving and driving while I'm a fit through drugs.

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Speaker 25: Now seven people are still in hospital but are said

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Speaker 25: to be in a stable condition and are covering well,

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Speaker 25: and really it is miraculous that nobody there haven't been

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Speaker 25: any fatalities from this that are around eighty people injured.

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Speaker 25: But we also know that the driver managed to get

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Speaker 25: onto this pedestrianized street, it's believed after following an ambulance

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Speaker 25: that was attending to a member of the public that

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Speaker 25: had got ill and managed to get onto this closed

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Speaker 25: off street when a barrier had been lifted up.

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Speaker 3: And in the indication that this person just kind of

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Speaker 3: followed the ambo win because it's just where they found themselves, well,

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Speaker 3: that they actually were trying to get in there deliberately.

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Speaker 25: Well, what we do know is that eyewitnesses has said

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Speaker 25: that there were some altercations with this car prior to

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Speaker 25: it going through this barrier, so there had been crowds

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Speaker 25: around it, some reports of people of somebody getting out

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Speaker 25: of the car, perhaps dropping somebody off, and I think

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Speaker 25: there was a lot of panic there were people around

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Speaker 25: the car before it went through this barrier. But quite

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Speaker 25: how it was allowed to get through and then that

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Speaker 25: not highlighted. There are lots of questions still that need

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Speaker 25: to be answered.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Okay, listen, Andrew Tatan's brother. They've been charged. Now

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Speaker 3: when do they get is extradited to the UK.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, so they have to wait until they're currently in Romania.

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Speaker 25: They have to wait until all of that case has

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Speaker 25: been concluded before they will be extradited back to the UK.

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Speaker 25: But police really, well, the CPS really clarifying the situation

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Speaker 25: here that they've been charged with twenty one offenses here

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Speaker 25: in the UK and they include rape, actual bodily harm,

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Speaker 25: human traffic, trafficking, a range of charges. Andrew Tates facing

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Speaker 25: ten his brother tris Eton eleven. So yes, when they're

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Speaker 25: currently in Romania facing separate allegations, but a European arrest

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Speaker 25: warrant was actually issued in twenty twenty four. They will

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Speaker 25: be extradited when the proceedings in Romania have concluded.

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Speaker 3: Elizabeth Listen Inda was running us through this business with

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Speaker 3: this Irish hip hop band with the Hispola flag. Why

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Speaker 3: have they been pulled from the concert from the gig?

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Speaker 3: Is it because of the flag?

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Speaker 2: No, it was seemingly not.

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Speaker 25: That's not what organizers have said. So they've said that

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Speaker 25: they've been removed from a music festival over safety fears.

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Speaker 25: So this is a festival in Glasgow and Scotland. That's

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Speaker 25: happening in July. Organizers say they'll no longer perform. In

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Speaker 25: a statement, Kneecap have said that they'll instead play their

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Speaker 25: own solo headline show in the same city in Glasgow

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Speaker 25: a few days before the festival. But apparently police had

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Speaker 25: highlighted to organized is that the potential reaction of a

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Speaker 25: large audience would require significant policing in order for it

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Speaker 25: to be safe, and perhaps the organizers have taken that

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Speaker 25: on board. But nee Caap have said on a statement

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Speaker 25: on social media they said, we've played in Glasgow many,

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Speaker 25: many times with no issues ever. Make of that what

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Speaker 25: you will.

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Speaker 3: Interesting Elizabeth, thank you appreciate your time. Elizabeth Callahan, UK correspondent.

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Speaker 3: Did you know I didn't know this until today, but

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Speaker 3: did you know that Boris Johnson had another baby the

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Speaker 3: other day? It was only about three days ago or

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Speaker 3: something like that. Kerry the wife had another baby. This

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Speaker 3: is their fourth babies here though, which takes the number

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Speaker 3: of children that he's had to possibly about seventeen hundred,

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Speaker 3: because he's got babies all over the show and I

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Speaker 3: think he's got I think this in fact could be

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Speaker 3: the third set of children if you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: as in like family with the one lady, illegitimate child

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Speaker 3: family with the other lady.

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Speaker 15: I just don't.

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Speaker 3: Don't it alarms me how much I know about his

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Speaker 3: personal life anyway. Anyway, regardless, shout out to her for

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Speaker 3: going in for four babies at thirty seven, like she's

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Speaker 3: they only got married four years ago, so that's basically

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Speaker 3: a bung bung bung bung, like getting one out every

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Speaker 3: single year. That is impressive because that's a lot of

2069
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,679
Speaker 3: hard work. Now I know that they're loaded, they'll they'll

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Speaker 3: have help up the wazoo, but still, I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: a lot good from you, Carrie. However, she's had pregnancy

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Speaker 3: photos done. Now there is nothing that I I there

2073
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 3: is nothing that I object to re photos more than

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Speaker 3: I think a pregnancy photo. I mean, like actual birth

2075
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Speaker 3: photos would be more objectionable, but nobody does that, thank god.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know why people do the pregnancy photo.

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Speaker 3: What's up with that? Why do you want to look

2078
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 3: at it? They're all dumb, They're always dumb. It's photos,

2079
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Speaker 3: Like all her photos are basically her sitting in places

2080
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Speaker 3: holding her stomach, so it's her sitting in her lounge

2081
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Speaker 3: holding her stomach, her sitting outside holding his stomach.

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Speaker 2: That's all it is.

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Speaker 3: And why do you want to be why do you

2084
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 3: want to be reminded of that? It's a hideous time

2085
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 3: being pregnantly, As she herself says, I just felt sack

2086
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 3: the whole time. I didn't really want to have to

2087
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Speaker 3: do it. Well, don't do it because you're not your best,

2088
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 3: are you? You're better, You're better either side of that

2089
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 3: once that bump is gone. Anyway, It's just it's just so,

2090
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 3: it's like this weird obsession with overdocumenting things that we've

2091
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 3: gotten to right because now we've got the phone. Take

2092
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 3: a part of everything, Take out of your meal, take

2093
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 3: a front of you being pregnant, Take a phut of

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01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 3: your drink. Gross seven away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather too for see allan Drive full show

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Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio powered by Newstalk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Five away from seven. So Lord on the Red Carpet

2098
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:46,640
Speaker 3: has been asked the vibe of her upcoming album. Well,

2099
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 3: I can tell you that my current frequently used emojis

2100
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 3: are the chains, the X ray, and the DNA spirals.

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Speaker 11: So take from that what you will.

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Speaker 16: What what?

2103
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 6: What am?

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Speaker 9: I don't know what we were expecting. That's exactly how

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01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 9: she talks all the time, what I mean, And it's.

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Speaker 3: Like I was I thought she was going to give

2107
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 3: us like the high five emoji and the thumbs up

2108
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 3: or like the middle finger.

2109
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Speaker 9: No that was that was sol the power. No, no, no,

2110
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 9: I think the middle finger was probably a melodrama.

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Speaker 3: And then I know what that means. I don't know

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01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 3: what what emotion ants do you attack?

2113
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Speaker 9: If you ask a question about vibes, right, like a

2114
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Speaker 9: DNA spiral and an X ray's something cold and clinical

2115
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Speaker 9: and you know medically?

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Speaker 3: What about chains? Because I'm immediately because the book that

2117
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Speaker 3: Bonnie gave me to read that there's handcuffs in that.

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Speaker 3: So I've immediately gone into that sense.

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Speaker 4: Have you gone there?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 9: And to be fair, the first song was about like

2122
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Speaker 9: an old relationship, right, and so for your chains that

2123
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 9: could be frustration or you know, feeling or breaking them

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Speaker 9: free or in an ability to break free, trying to

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Speaker 9: break free. And there's also it's pop music. We love it,

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Speaker 9: do you know what.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad that I'm not young anymore because we're

2128
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Speaker 3: here to help with this. Honestly, I just you know

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Speaker 3: what because when you're young, you actually care about why

2130
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 3: Lord is feeling the chains. But I don't care because

2131
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Speaker 3: I don't understand. It's just too hard.

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Speaker 9: And so let's finish with some Lord. This is Lord

2133
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 9: and Charlie XCX the girls so confusing version with Lord.

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01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:20,759
Speaker 9: This is the song that is up for Best Single

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Speaker 9: at the Old Or Music Awards. So imagine if she

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Speaker 9: showed up in something else wins, that'll be.

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Speaker 3: I mean, imagine if Charlie XCX doesn't win at the

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Speaker 3: New Zealand Music Awards.

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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, so the Lord's on the song, which is why.

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Speaker 3: Which is how it's managed to like switch its way

2141
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 3: into imagine if we're like, nah, that over there is

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Speaker 3: But to be.

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Speaker 9: Fair, it's like a full Lord verse, so I think

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Speaker 9: you can still count this as a key.

2145
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Speaker 3: With but imagine like it would just be like us

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Speaker 3: to give it to some random local band, not Charlie

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Speaker 3: x X.

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Speaker 9: A well, there are some good ones on this. There

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Speaker 9: we go trom would get it if it was.

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Speaker 3: Feeling Chain's emoji with you, Okay, we'll see you tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: good luck to everything. I try to understand all of this.

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Speaker 16: It'd be in the pitches for the last couple of years,

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Speaker 16: I've been boring my body, try to starve uself dinner

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Speaker 16: and then again.

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