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Speaker 2: I blame the internal gutter. Honestly, internal gutters. They're more

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Speaker 2: trouble than they're worth. It was just it was one

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Speaker 2: of those classic things, right. I was sitting there last

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Speaker 2: night listening to what I thought was the rain on

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Speaker 2: the roof, when all of a sudden, I thought that

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Speaker 2: rain sounds awfully close. Drip drip, drip. This is one

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Speaker 2: of the costs of having they call a character home,

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Speaker 2: an old villa, a leak right in the middle of

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Speaker 2: our lounge. I'm pleased to report that the leak seems

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Speaker 2: to have stopped along with the rain at our place overnight,

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Speaker 2: and things are drying out a little bit in Tasman

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Speaker 2: as well. Of course, the Thames are largely Tasman based

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Speaker 2: these days. Mum and Dad sent me a text at

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Speaker 2: about three o'clock in the morning saying that the power

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Speaker 2: was finally back on at their place my sister's place

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Speaker 2: over the hill in bright Water. They seem to get

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Speaker 2: through relatively dry inside at least, although they've lost a

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Speaker 2: panel or two from the greenhouse. They've got a text

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Speaker 2: from the neighbors saying that that's blown over to their place,

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Speaker 2: so they'll be doing a bit of work in the backyard.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to make sure we keep you up to

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Speaker 2: speed with the very latest from the authorities regarding the

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Speaker 2: crazy weather. The good news is that the rain watches

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Speaker 2: and warnings have been lifted for the time being in Tasman,

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Speaker 2: which seems to have borne the brunt of the storm.

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Speaker 2: The worst of the storm over the last twenty four

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Speaker 2: Of a one hundred or so people I think spending

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Speaker 2: the night in alternative accommodation is that storm blew through.

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Speaker 2: So we'll make sure we keep you up to speed

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Speaker 2: with the latest this morning on News Talks dB, as

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Speaker 2: well as that before ten o'clock this morning, a Moroccan

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Speaker 2: spiced lamb pie recipe I reckon that'll go down an

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Speaker 2: absolute treat in those parts of the country that have

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Speaker 2: been the wettest stuff for the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: And then after ten o'clock we are going to be

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Speaker 2: speaking with Grammy winner, five time Country Music Award winner

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Speaker 2: Marion Morris. She's just released a brand new album and

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Speaker 2: she's making her way to New Zealand. She's gonna be

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Speaker 2: with us as our feature interview after ten o'clock, so

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Speaker 2: I cannot wait for that right now, it is nine

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Speaker 2: minutes past nine, Jack Day, and last month, I'm sorry

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Speaker 2: to report we set a new household record at the

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Speaker 2: Tames Place. Blame the baby, the extra washing, the old house,

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Speaker 2: the cold weather, the dehumidifier and whatever whatever else. But

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Speaker 2: despite booking an hours of free electricity across the month

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Speaker 2: between the gas heating and the electricity to our place,

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Speaker 2: our family energy bill for June twenty twenty five was

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Speaker 2: the single highest bill it has ever been, five hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty dollars. Look, I know that relative to lots

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Speaker 2: of other families, we have no reason to complain. We're

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Speaker 2: pretty comfortable, right, But even so five hundred and forty bucks?

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Speaker 2: Are you serious? That has to change? But while of

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Speaker 2: course there are things that we as a family can

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Speaker 2: do to improve, I'm really aware that there are only

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Speaker 2: so many gains to be won from policing light switches

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Speaker 2: and shower times. I am seriously wondering about solar I

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Speaker 2: read this amazing article and this amazing set of stats

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Speaker 2: and development of solar energy around the world. I've done

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Speaker 2: that really insufferable thing where I've sent the article to

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Speaker 2: one thousand people, knowing that about two of them will

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Speaker 2: actually read the article, and I share these stats with

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Speaker 2: you because they are amazing. Now, it's mainly big picture stuff, Okay,

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Speaker 2: so the kind of big industrial solar farms rather than

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Speaker 2: me away. So, first of all, solar power is now

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Speaker 2: growing faster than any other power source in history. Globally,

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Speaker 2: a gigawatts worth of solar panels is being installed every

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Speaker 2: fifteen hours on average, which means that if you set

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Speaker 2: you set to stop watch going right now, new solar

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Speaker 2: panels equal to the entire electricity generation capacity of our country.

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Speaker 2: So the entire electricity generation facity of New Zealand, new

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Speaker 2: solar panels equivalent to that will be installed and running

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Speaker 2: by midnight on Thursday night next week, exactly the same

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Speaker 2: week after that, and the week after that, and the

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Speaker 2: week after that. Another fact, it took sixty eight years

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Speaker 2: third by next year. The International Energy Agency, which is

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Speaker 2: International Energy Agency says solar energy will generate more electricity

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Speaker 2: than all of the world's nuclear power plants combined. By

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine. Solar will do more than hydro dams,

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Speaker 2: by twenty thirty one, more than gas, and by twenty

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Speaker 2: thirty two more than coal. Globally, we are generating a

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Speaker 2: last year. It's crazy how fast this is accelerating. And

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Speaker 2: of course the Chinese are miles ahead of everyone else

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Speaker 2: on this, but even gas guzzling America is changing incredibly quickly.

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Speaker 2: And why, you might ask, are we doing it? Because

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Speaker 2: it's the right thing. Are we doing it because it's

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Speaker 2: the moral thing, the climate conscious thing we're all thinking

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Speaker 2: of Paris twenty fifty. No, no, no, no, no, none of that.

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Speaker 2: The huge surgeon. Solar is being driven by economics. Put simply,

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Speaker 2: solar power is way, way, way cheaper than other forms

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Speaker 2: of electricity generation, and between batteries and solar panels, the

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Speaker 2: technology is only getting better and only getting cheaper. Ten

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Speaker 2: years from now. As reported in that article, the International

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Speaker 2: Energy Agency says solar power will become the world's main

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Speaker 2: source of all energy, So not just all electricity, all energy.

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Speaker 2: Solar is going to be number one. Now. Look, I'm

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Speaker 2: not naive about solar's limitations. I mean a few of

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Speaker 2: us need reminding, especially given the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 2: that there are times when the sun doesn't shine so much.

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Speaker 2: And right now, in the depths of winter, when our

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Speaker 2: family's energy bill is at its highest, is the time

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Speaker 2: of year when solar panels on our roof top would

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Speaker 2: likely be generating the least electricity. But if I just

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Speaker 2: the context of the whole year, it makes increasing economic sense.

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Speaker 2: In summer, I reckon I could wipe off a massive

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Speaker 2: then can contribute to offsetting the bills in the middle

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Speaker 2: at five hundred and forty bucks. The status quo isn't

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Speaker 2: going to be sustainable for our family. And rather than

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Speaker 2: debating if we will go to solar, the only question

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Speaker 2: for us now is when Jack tam ninety two ninety

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Speaker 2: If you're going to do that, you can email me

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Speaker 2: as well. Jacket Newstalks, he'd be dot co dot indeed

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Speaker 2: is my email address. We'll get our sportos thoughts on

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Speaker 2: the all backs chances tonight. It was this time last week,

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Speaker 2: of course, I was saying that that before we moaned

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Speaker 2: about the quality of the French opposition and the squad

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Speaker 2: that the French had sent down under for these three tests,

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Speaker 2: we should make sure we win the test comfortably. Was

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Speaker 2: it all together convincing last week? So are they going

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Speaker 2: to turn things around in the cake tin tonight? Our

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Speaker 2: Sportos thoughts very shortly, Kevin Milnder. Next, it's quarter past nine,

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Speaker 2: I'm jactam, It's Saturday morning and this is news dog ZEDV.

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Speaker 1: No bitter way to kick off your weekend than with

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Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack, Tay and bepewured on codet

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, I sound like I've drunk from

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Speaker 2: the call aid this morning, but honestly, some of these

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Speaker 2: stats just absolutely blew me away. I'm going to give

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Speaker 2: you one more from that article, Okay that this is

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Speaker 2: something I didn't properly appreciate or understand until this week,

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Speaker 2: and that's just how inefficient it is to create energy

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Speaker 2: by burning stuff. Right, So, to power a car by

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Speaker 2: burning petrol is only about thirty percent efficient, which means

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Speaker 2: So a standard combustion engine needs two to three times

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Speaker 2: that obviously, if you could power an EV through solar,

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Speaker 2: you would have an incredibly efficient system heaps of texts Jack.

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Speaker 2: You do realize there's not a lot of solder generation

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Speaker 2: in winter, says Sharon. We've lived totally off the grid

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Speaker 2: It's not the silver bullet you think. I don't think

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Speaker 2: do think that solar could offset our energy costs in summer,

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Speaker 2: and that we could put some of the money that

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Speaker 2: we spend on our energy costs in summer towards our

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Speaker 2: bills in winter. Jack. If we all went solder in

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Speaker 2: the summer time and generate heats of electricity, that would

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Speaker 2: allow the big the likes of Meridian to store more

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Speaker 2: supply good in winter, says shorn Morning Jack LJ. Here,

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Speaker 2: every new building in New Zealand should have solar heating,

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Speaker 2: no ifs or buts. Imagine how much it would help

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Speaker 2: the government if they didn't have to build more infrastructure

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Speaker 2: to be overcharged by the electricity companies. Ninety two ninety

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Speaker 2: and touch. Kevin Milon is here this morning, killer, Kevin Jack.

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Speaker 2: Have you got solo in my place?

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry?

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Speaker 2: Have you got solar panels at your place?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 6: I haven't. No, No, you're on.

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Speaker 2: The gorgeous Carbony coast, Kevin, there's no excuses. Come on,

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Speaker 2: that's right.

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Speaker 6: No, that's true. Yeah, I just haven't got light you

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Speaker 6: up to now, I haven't been moved to do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and I suppose at this end of my life, I'm thinking,

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Speaker 6: I mean, you're talking about ten years from now things happening.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking, no, I'm not refuse to accept that for

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Speaker 2: a moment. You're you're, you're, you're as vital as I've

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Speaker 2: ever been. Kevin, come on, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: I'm thinking that my issue. They might ring a few

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, interesting that you're also talking about energy is

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Speaker 2: slightly smaller batteries. You've been frustrated by cell phone batteries.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm wondering when we can get we can

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Speaker 6: get soldar batteries on our phones. I needed a new

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Speaker 6: battery for my iPhone eleven.

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Speaker 7: Jack.

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Speaker 6: It's over five years old, operating at only sixty five

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Speaker 6: percent capacity. An Apple replacement battery was going to cost

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Speaker 6: about one hundred and seventy five dollars, but a lot

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Speaker 6: cheaper than buying a new phone. So I went into

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Speaker 6: my local phone agents where I'd bought my phone in

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Speaker 6: the first place. We don't change batteries here, but we

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Speaker 6: can send it to the Apple workshop. I said, how

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Speaker 6: long will my phone be away? He replied two weeks?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad that you are glad that you didn't

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 2: He'd be any eight minutes past nine on news talks,

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Speaker 2: he'd be our sport. Andrew Saville is counting down to

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, I can't wait for kickoff tonight and both

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Speaker 2: of course, live commentary. The All Blacks in France will

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Speaker 2: be on newstalks. The'd be tonight build up from six

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Speaker 2: o'clock kickoff just after seven. Jack, we have solar hot

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Speaker 2: Ninety two ninety two. If you want to send us

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Speaker 2: Next the French.

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Speaker 2: That's Lord and Broken Glass. She has finally announced New

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Speaker 2: Zealand TOWO dates, so she's going to be heading to

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Speaker 2: the nine Tarmiki Makoda Auckland and the Three christ Jurge

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Speaker 2: and February next year. You can expect tickets will be

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Speaker 2: in hot demand for both of those shows. Jans flip

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Speaker 2: me a note. Jack, Can you tell me why Ethan

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Speaker 2: black At it isn't in the All Blacks?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 2: I can't, Jan, I don't understand it. You know that

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Speaker 2: I think it absolutely beggars belief. David Harvey should be

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Speaker 2: in there as well in my view, but never mind.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three to ten on News Talks, it'd be time

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Speaker 2: to catch up with Francesca red can Ow film reviewer

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Speaker 2: for her picks this week. Whatever, good morning. Let's begin

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Speaker 2: with the very latest and a long list of Superman

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Speaker 2: films over the year. Over the years, this is Superman, Superman.

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Speaker 5: Is no Man.

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Speaker 7: Isn't it somehow become the focal policy and toe worlds conversation.

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Speaker 5: I will not.

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Speaker 2: Except that dun't dun't Dan tell us about the new Superman.

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 12: Well, I think I took my sexteen yard this film,

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Speaker 12: and I think she summed it up really well. She went,

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Speaker 12: there is something for everyone, mum. There's a hot guy,

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Speaker 12: there's a cute dog who steals a lot of the

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Speaker 12: scenes perfect for the kids. There's lots of actions, there's

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Speaker 12: more than one superhero just in case you get a

456
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Speaker 12: book bought with Superman. There's geopolitics, they've got a good villain.

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Speaker 12: There's a little bit of humor, and she's kind of right.

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Speaker 12: They throw everything at this film.

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Speaker 9: I think over time, over the.

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Speaker 12: Last sort of decade or so, comic book adaptations have

461
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Speaker 12: moved away from their source material. But actually I think

462
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Speaker 12: with this film they really embrace it. It does have

463
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Speaker 12: quite a cartoonish feel to it, and also it embraces it, kind.

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Speaker 9: Of acknowledges its origins.

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Speaker 12: A lot more like the graphics are very much like

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Speaker 12: the original sort of comic book graphics, and they use

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Speaker 12: music that we've heard before in Superman film. So they're

468
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Speaker 12: really kind of trying to read the old, celebrate its origins,

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Speaker 12: but present it to us kind of in a fresh

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Speaker 12: new way. You know, this is the beginning of the

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Speaker 12: DC Universe. So the DC Universe is going to be

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Speaker 12: like the Marvel comic Universe.

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Speaker 9: It's been set up and.

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Speaker 12: Run by James Gunn and a guy called Peter Saffron.

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Speaker 12: So James Gunn is a director. You will know him

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Speaker 12: as the guy who brought us the superb Guardians of

477
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Speaker 12: the Galaxy franchise, and he's got together with Peter Saffron.

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Speaker 12: They are running this new studio, DCU, and this is

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Speaker 12: kind of a big film to come out of it.

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Speaker 9: So we're looking at this going okay.

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Speaker 12: Where they're going to take this because Jack, there's a

482
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Speaker 12: little bit of comic book hero fatigue out there, you know,

483
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Speaker 12: Marvel really kind of did really take it to as

484
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Speaker 12: far as it could and we all got a bit

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Speaker 12: like it's another comic book hero film. It's the same

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Speaker 12: as the last, very overblown, very much reliant on cgi la.

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Speaker 9: La la la la.

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Speaker 12: So what they're trying to do here is they're trying

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Speaker 12: to They've lightened it up a bit. It's not like

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Speaker 12: some of the darker kind of adaptations. It's light, it's fun,

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Speaker 12: it's entertaining. There is a lot going on, whether it's

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Speaker 12: within the story. We've kind of got these, you know. There's,

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Speaker 12: as I mentioned, geopolitical issue here. There's a Superman gets

494
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Speaker 12: involved in a foreign conflict, he gets in trouble for you,

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Speaker 12: it's government, he loses a battle for the first time,

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Speaker 12: he's got to repair a rip in the universe. He's

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Speaker 12: holding down a day job as well, Jack, you do

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Speaker 12: a lot of jobs. And then he's struggling to control

499
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Speaker 12: this dog Crypto, who is absolutely delightful. So there's all

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Speaker 12: that going on. But what they also do is that

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Speaker 12: they kind of show us that Superman's going through some

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Speaker 12: internal battles as well, and he learns a little bit

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Speaker 12: more about.

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Speaker 9: Why his parents sent him to Earth and what their intention.

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Speaker 12: Is, and it's not what he thought. So suddenly he

506
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Speaker 12: too is thrown into sort of an existential crisis.

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Speaker 9: He's like, what am I here? When's my purpose? Who

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Speaker 9: am I? You know? And he very much identifies as human.

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Speaker 12: You know, he goes to all the same sort of

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Speaker 12: he feels that he lives his life and feels the

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Speaker 12: same sort of things as humans and things.

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Speaker 9: So they've done a really nice balance.

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Speaker 12: Here of providing you with what you expect, you know,

514
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Speaker 12: collapsing buildings and Metropolis falling over and all the action,

515
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Speaker 12: and they've struggling, you know, some extra superheroes at us,

516
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Speaker 12: because James Gunn loves an ensemble cast, so there's you know,

517
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Speaker 12: we've got a great little mix here of the Justice

518
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Speaker 12: Gang joining Supman. But then there's also sort of this

519
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Speaker 12: internal battle going on which kind of tries to give

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Speaker 12: the film a little bit of heart and things.

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Speaker 9: I didn't get caught up. It didn't kind of tug

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Speaker 9: on me, tug on the heartstrings. I didn't get emotional

523
00:27:30,893 --> 00:27:33,253
Speaker 9: over it. It's two hours and nine minutes long. It

524
00:27:33,293 --> 00:27:34,813
Speaker 9: could have been two hours.

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Speaker 12: That would have been perfect. It's good and it's refreshing.

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Speaker 12: It's not probably great, It's probably.

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Speaker 9: Not in the top echelon of comic book.

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Speaker 12: Heroes, but it's I'm really interested to see what they

529
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Speaker 12: do going forward with this.

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Speaker 9: I'm interested. They've got my intention. I like what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: Ok yeah, cool, Okay, so that's Superman that's showing in

532
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Speaker 2: cinemas at the moment. I add on Prime Video at

533
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Speaker 2: the moment, starring John Senna and Idris Elba have a

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Speaker 2: listen to heads of state.

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Speaker 1: It's the Prime Minister, it's the president.

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Speaker 5: For debut?

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Speaker 9: Do it?

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Speaker 2: What's that?

539
00:28:10,653 --> 00:28:11,253
Speaker 7: Can't be good?

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Speaker 11: That?

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Speaker 13: Eit a minute?

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Speaker 4: I have something to say.

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Speaker 2: Right over. This sounds like a cerebral watch Francesca.

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Speaker 12: Look, I did, yes, I did not have much hope

545
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Speaker 12: for this. And actually, when I finished watching this film, Jack,

546
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Speaker 12: I thought they should have.

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Speaker 9: Put this out on the big screen. Would have I

548
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Speaker 9: think it would have for me?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, because no, no, But it embraces its absurdity and

550
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Speaker 12: it has a blast with it, and it's kind of

551
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Speaker 12: got inventive, and it's got some interestingly shot action, like

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Speaker 12: it's not a normal streaming film where they're trying.

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Speaker 9: A big budget at it.

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Speaker 12: But it feels a bit lazy, sort of made a

555
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Speaker 12: bit of an effort here, which sh took me by

556
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Speaker 12: surprise too. So it's an action thriller, a buddy flick.

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Speaker 12: John Senner is an actor turned President of the US.

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Speaker 12: Idris Albert is the Prime Minister of the UK. They

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Speaker 12: do not get on, they do not have a good relationship.

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Speaker 12: They decide to try and fix it by taking a

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Speaker 12: trip together on Air Force one to a meeting. An

562
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Speaker 12: Air Force one is shot down and they fell them

563
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Speaker 12: They find themselves in the Belarussian woods. Takes a while

564
00:29:09,373 --> 00:29:10,893
Speaker 12: to kind of click into it, takes a while to

565
00:29:10,933 --> 00:29:14,853
Speaker 12: get there, but these two work really really well together

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Speaker 12: and then they're sort of thrown in. They have sort

567
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Speaker 12: of thrown in some relevant agendas of the day. So

568
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Speaker 12: they're heading to a NATO meeting. There are speeches on

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Speaker 12: NATO's value as a peacekeeping force. They talk about the

570
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Speaker 12: idea that NATO has been holding up Europe and America

571
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Speaker 12: doesn't want to do that anymore. So they're sort of

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Speaker 12: looking at quite a lot of the political issues which

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Speaker 12: are taking place right now. So I thought you made

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Speaker 12: a bit of an effort. But yeah, the script's okay.

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Speaker 12: It is quite funny at times. The action's great as

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Speaker 12: I see, quite innovatively shot at times, and the two

577
00:29:46,493 --> 00:29:48,453
Speaker 12: were charming together. So for what it is, it's a

578
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Speaker 12: silly action comedy, but they kind of pull it off, okay, guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: so if you're looking for some If you're going, oh

580
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Speaker 12: my gosh, we've just got to be finally got the

581
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Speaker 12: end of the holidays, we've survived, and you just need

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Speaker 12: to crash this weekend.

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Speaker 9: You got prime Yeah, give it a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's a bit of fun. Okay, Yeah, Like see here

585
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Speaker 2: I was being all kind of hoity toity about it,

586
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Speaker 2: but maybe maybe a bit of escapism and escapism done

587
00:30:09,053 --> 00:30:12,293
Speaker 2: well is actually the sort of thing we should be embracing. Okay,

588
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Speaker 2: thank you, Francesca. So that's Heads of State, that's on

589
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Speaker 2: Prime video. Superman is showing in cinemas and after ten o'clock.

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Speaker 2: If you can't be bothered leaving a couch this weekend

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Speaker 2: and you're looking for something good, we're going to tell

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Speaker 2: you about a new documentary you can stream at home

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Speaker 2: called Jaws at fifty. As the name suggests, it's a

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Speaker 2: look back at Jaws, the film, which is now fifty

595
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Speaker 2: years old, and the kind of various production issues, but

596
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Speaker 2: also the incredible social cultural impact that that movie has had.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, would Jaws have had more of a

598
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Speaker 2: cultural impact than any other film since I reckon There's

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Speaker 2: probably a good argument to be made that a had

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Speaker 2: day so anyway, we'll tell you about that after ten

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Speaker 4: or five years now. When I first got it, I

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Speaker 4: can tell you it felt so expensive to me. I

647
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Speaker 4: don't have a battery, so it doesn't store. But I'll

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Speaker 4: tell you what, as soon as I got it, I

649
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Speaker 4: couldn't stop grinning. It felt like the most obvious thing

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Speaker 4: in the world.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 14: I just it, honestly, just.

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Speaker 4: I just wandered around my house for the next few days.

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Speaker 4: That's worn off, of course, otherwise for putting me away,

655
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Speaker 4: but I just thought this makes so much sense. It's

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Speaker 4: ridiculous that we don't capture the sunlight. Yeah, absolutely crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think it's a great idea.

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Speaker 2: Do I ask, what's a power bill for you in

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Speaker 2: the middle of winter today?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 14: Probably round two twenty something like that.

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Speaker 2: Pretty high guess as well?

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Speaker 4: I run, okay, everything's electric. That's my car, that's my everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well, okay, so you've got a car and

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Speaker 2: a spar pole okay, and no battery. You should get

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Speaker 2: a battery.

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Speaker 14: I think I should get a battery. I need the battery. Yeah, no, no, I.

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Speaker 4: Think I should get a battery. Definitely would be great

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Speaker 4: to have it stored. And especially yesterday because we had

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Speaker 4: a power cut, yes, and that would have been and

671
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Speaker 4: stead couldn't boil my kettle for my cup of tea

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Speaker 4: or to make my pies.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk those pies. Moroccan spice lamb pies.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in training. Actually, I'm in training freeding pies.

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Speaker 4: Because on the twenty fourth of July, as the announced

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Speaker 4: recently announced celebrity celebrity judge for the twenty seventh Bakl's

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Speaker 4: New Zealand, so pree wild that's me. I will be

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Speaker 4: oh fax somethud. It is a huge honor. So we

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Speaker 4: we've got five hundred that will be over five thousand

680
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Speaker 4: pies getting judged on, you know.

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Speaker 14: And so I'm in training for eating them.

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Speaker 4: So and I knew that you were just coming back

683
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Speaker 4: to our fair shawls, and I thought, what better than

684
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Speaker 4: a pie? So I've made you a Moroccan spiced lamb

685
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Speaker 4: pie and so good.

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Speaker 14: And here's what I do.

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Speaker 4: I just make up this beautiful, soft, tender lamb filling

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Speaker 4: by sorting some onions and some olive oil adding in

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Speaker 4: die slam.

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Speaker 14: And I just happened to have two lamb rumps hanging

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Speaker 14: around in my.

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Speaker 15: Freezer, so I defausted those.

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Speaker 4: I used about eight hundred grams I suppose of lamb.

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Speaker 4: Because I had so much lamb, I decided not to

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Speaker 4: pad it out with anything like carrots or salary. But

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Speaker 4: you could if you wanted to kind of go a

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Speaker 4: little bit easier on the lamb content.

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Speaker 14: Why would you.

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Speaker 4: You could also put some lentils in there, but I

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Speaker 4: didn't do that there. I just went onions, lamb, cloves

701
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Speaker 4: of garlic, Oh so good. And then I threw in

702
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Speaker 4: a whole lot of beautiful spices that really kind of

703
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Speaker 4: have this heady a Roman and really reminded me of Morocco.

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Speaker 4: When I was there, I put one heat teaspoon of

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Speaker 4: turmeric power powder, and then one teaspoon each of coriander powder,

706
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Speaker 4: ground cumin, and paprika. I didn't use smoke create precreade

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Speaker 4: to use the hot one to give a little bit

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Speaker 4: of heat, and I used half a teaspoon of ground ginger.

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Speaker 14: I also threw.

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Speaker 4: In a cinnamon stick, but my cinnamon sticks are so

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Speaker 4: old that there was belly any flavor from the cinnamon,

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Speaker 4: So I do recommend using a little bit of cinnamon.

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Speaker 14: That was still delicious.

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Speaker 4: One teaspoon of sea salt, lamb love salt and you

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Speaker 4: don't want to sort of flavorless pie, and a quarter

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Speaker 4: of a teaspoon of white pepper, and four hundred grams

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Speaker 4: of crushed tomatoes. They all went into a pot, and

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Speaker 4: then I kind of topped up that pot till just

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Speaker 4: about covered with water. You could use stock as well,

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Speaker 4: but I didn't bother and I just cooked it away

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Speaker 4: for about an hour until everything was melting into each other.

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Speaker 4: Those onions have melted the beautiful lamb as and then

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Speaker 4: I kind of did a bit of a pulled lamb.

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Speaker 4: I just sort of I didn't really want chunks of it,

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Speaker 4: so I left a couple of chunks in me, but

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Speaker 4: I just kind of thought so that was sort of

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Speaker 4: you know, puled lamb.

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Speaker 14: Shredded it a little bit, and then I just cooled that.

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Speaker 4: And that's the key to making a good pie is

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Speaker 4: putting cool filling into a pastry case. If you put

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Speaker 4: hot filling in it melts the pastry straight away, and

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Speaker 4: you're bound to get a soggy bottom.

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Speaker 14: On the pie.

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Speaker 4: So look, I preheated my oven to one hundred and

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Speaker 4: ninety degrees and I popped a tray into heat, and

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Speaker 4: then I've got some lovely little old fashioned pie tins.

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Speaker 4: But you could use a Texas muffin tin.

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Speaker 14: You could make one big pie whatever you like. Line

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Speaker 14: it with pastry, throw that cold filling in there. And

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Speaker 14: then I rolled out.

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Speaker 4: Very thin lids on it because I like to go

742
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Speaker 4: minimum pastry maximum filling, brushed it with eggsh and sealed

743
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Speaker 4: it well around the edges. A couple of slashes in

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Speaker 4: the top of your eyes always let a bit of

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Speaker 4: that air escape. I sprinkled over some beautiful little cuban

746
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Speaker 4: seeds and then I probably cooked them for about forty minutes.

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Speaker 4: They were delicious, absolutely and not aught time.

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Speaker 2: Amazing.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, so I didn't even need to use any thickener

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Speaker 14: or anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because the lamb.

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Speaker 4: And the fat sort of did the trick of that.

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Speaker 4: Do leave your pie for ten minutes for ease of

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Speaker 4: eating after this once. It's tricky, but yes, how many

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Speaker 4: hot pies have you You don't really enjoy the process.

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Speaker 2: I know yourself immediately.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, pies, I love them.

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Speaker 2: I love amaz. Okay, well, we're going to make sure

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Speaker 2: the recipe is up at Newstalks headb dot co dot

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Speaker 2: in so everyone can cook along at home as well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Nick, and congratulations on your appointment.

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Speaker 2: We've had solar panels no battery had them for about

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Speaker 2: ten years. In the peak of summer, we are selling

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Speaker 2: eighteen dollars of power back to the grid per month

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Speaker 2: over whatever we save using solar, so that's pretty decent.

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Speaker 2: Our low power months are ninety to one hundred dollars,

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy dollars. Is Stephen Jack, We've got a

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Speaker 2: note that yesterday gray overcasta in christ Church. It only

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Speaker 2: generated about eleven percent of what it's capable of, so

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Speaker 2: not fantastic, but in the middle of summer it should

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Speaker 2: Maren Morris is a country music superstar. She's a Grammy winner,

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Speaker 2: a five time winner at the Country Music Awards. She's

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Speaker 2: career with her latest album, Dreamsicle. Maren is heading to

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Speaker 2: New Zealand next year to ride the country music wave

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Speaker 2: that's sweeping our nation and joins us this morning. Kilda, Maren,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the show.

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Speaker 13: That's good to be here. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great to be chatting. You're sort of in

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Speaker 2: a kind of new era of life a little bit

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Speaker 2: with Dreamsicle. So tell us what is a dreamsicle and

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Speaker 2: what does a what is a dreamsicle? Kind of presimed,

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 13: I didn't even think about that. Y'all probably don't have

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Speaker 13: those over there. So a dreamsicle is like an ice

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Speaker 13: cream cone, and at least there's different variations. There's like

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Speaker 13: a cream cicle. But then in Texas where I grew up,

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Speaker 13: we were on a could a stack street, so that

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Speaker 13: ice cream truck would go by in the summertime and

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Speaker 13: I would always get out of you know, the hundred

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Speaker 13: pictures of options, I would get the dreamsicle. So, I mean,

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Speaker 13: that's been in my head for a long time, obviously

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Speaker 13: as like a nostalgia thing, like a childhood thing. But

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Speaker 13: I named the record after that because, well, there's a

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Speaker 13: song on the record called Dreamsicle that I wrote, and

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Speaker 13: it's just about you know, things that are you know, wonderful,

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Speaker 13: like are fleeting and we know that. But I think

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Speaker 13: just not mourning it too soon and just really being

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Speaker 13: present in the moment and enjoying what's in your hands. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: at that time is way more fruitful then trying to

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Speaker 13: like rush through it or like more that it's over

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Speaker 13: while it's still happening. Like I kind of fall into

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Speaker 13: that trap a lot. So it's just my own reminder

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Speaker 13: to myself to just stay present and enjoy like the

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Speaker 13: good and the bad things as they're happening, because it

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Speaker 13: all ends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a good message and kind of a

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Speaker 2: universal message, right, like about trying to to be present

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Speaker 2: and observe that the multitude of kind of emotions and

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Speaker 2: things that you have in life. But I can imagine

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Speaker 2: that for someone like you, given how busy you are

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Speaker 2: and given all the directions you're being pulled in, that

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Speaker 2: must be really difficult.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I think when things are, you know, going well,

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Speaker 13: but you're also constantly you know, I'm always on the

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Speaker 13: road traveling or on tour, so it's like some days

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Speaker 13: I don't even know what city I'm in until I

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Speaker 13: step off the bus, and there's just there's a sort

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Speaker 13: of disorienting nature to that. But then also like the

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Speaker 13: tour will end or an album cycle will end, and

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Speaker 13: I'll be like that was fun, but I really like

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Speaker 13: it was all kind of blurring together because it's just

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Speaker 13: I'm not taking stock of each moment and some you know,

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Speaker 13: I think we all kind of are guilty of that.

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Speaker 13: That's a normal human experience. But no, I mean like

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Speaker 13: I'm so lucky and that I get to do this

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Speaker 13: thing that I love for a living. But yeah, it

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Speaker 13: does like it's a daily practice to just be appreciative

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Speaker 13: of it and be in the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So the good news is that we have popsicles

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, so we don't have cream cicles. We

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Speaker 2: have popsicles, which is kind of like an ice lolly,

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Speaker 2: I think. But but what does the Dream Circle have?

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Speaker 2: Does they have like the chocolate bars coming out or

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Speaker 2: is there like frosting that goes on top or something.

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Speaker 13: It's actually like sort of an orange cream type of

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Speaker 13: ice cream.

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Speaker 2: But controversial orange ice cream.

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Speaker 13: I mean oranges and cream. Is it's a good combo.

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Speaker 2: But I refreshing. I can see that. I can see

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Speaker 2: that it would be a refreshing option. And like you say,

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Speaker 2: you know, as a kid, you kind of you work

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Speaker 2: out what your favorites are pretty quickly.

863
00:43:12,853 --> 00:43:16,013
Speaker 13: Yeah, you definitely like know what you don't like. But no,

864
00:43:16,213 --> 00:43:18,613
Speaker 13: for me, I don't know, I mean I love like

865
00:43:18,973 --> 00:43:21,333
Speaker 13: a popsicle for sure, But I mean that just like

866
00:43:21,533 --> 00:43:27,573
Speaker 13: felt so summary to me and very like reminiscent evocative

867
00:43:27,653 --> 00:43:29,773
Speaker 13: of like my hometown where I grew up in Texas.

868
00:43:29,813 --> 00:43:33,213
Speaker 13: So yeah, it's sort of like my I don't know,

869
00:43:33,293 --> 00:43:34,613
Speaker 13: maybe miss home for sure.

870
00:43:34,973 --> 00:43:37,773
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the thing that's kind of noticeable with

871
00:43:37,853 --> 00:43:41,453
Speaker 2: Dreams to Called the album is that the sound of

872
00:43:41,493 --> 00:43:45,213
Speaker 2: the album is a little bit different, not in a

873
00:43:45,253 --> 00:43:46,893
Speaker 2: huge way, like you can still you can kind of

874
00:43:46,933 --> 00:43:49,253
Speaker 2: still see your your your roots coming through, but obviously

875
00:43:49,293 --> 00:43:50,773
Speaker 2: there's a bit of a different sound there. So how

876
00:43:50,773 --> 00:43:54,453
Speaker 2: do you kind of balance your natural inclinations towards what

877
00:43:54,733 --> 00:43:57,133
Speaker 2: might be deemed as a kind of country sound with

878
00:43:57,253 --> 00:44:00,493
Speaker 2: also wanting to blend in some other genres.

879
00:44:01,813 --> 00:44:03,813
Speaker 13: I mean, I think that just comes down to, like, well,

880
00:44:03,813 --> 00:44:06,373
Speaker 13: I listened to so many different types of music even

881
00:44:06,453 --> 00:44:09,173
Speaker 13: so I think the way that I sing and the

882
00:44:09,213 --> 00:44:13,053
Speaker 13: way that I write my lyrics is very country leaning

883
00:44:13,453 --> 00:44:16,893
Speaker 13: because that's like how I learned to write songs. But

884
00:44:17,133 --> 00:44:20,253
Speaker 13: I really wanted to push myself with the sound of

885
00:44:20,293 --> 00:44:23,293
Speaker 13: this album, so I wanted to work with producers that

886
00:44:23,893 --> 00:44:28,533
Speaker 13: really challenged me. So that's like, you know, with Jack Antonoff,

887
00:44:29,013 --> 00:44:35,053
Speaker 13: Evan Blair, Joel Little, who's a New Zealander. Yeah, and

888
00:44:35,093 --> 00:44:39,053
Speaker 13: then like Naomi McPherson from Muna doing like cry in

889
00:44:39,053 --> 00:44:41,693
Speaker 13: the Car, Push Me Over. You know, there's a pretty

890
00:44:41,813 --> 00:44:45,973
Speaker 13: wide array of people that are getting these new feelings

891
00:44:46,013 --> 00:44:48,893
Speaker 13: out of me. And yeah, so I think it's probably

892
00:44:48,893 --> 00:44:52,573
Speaker 13: like sonically the most diverse record I've put out because

893
00:44:52,613 --> 00:44:56,453
Speaker 13: I worked with so many different friends on this project.

894
00:44:56,053 --> 00:44:59,493
Speaker 2: And so that the kind of inclination that drives the

895
00:44:59,493 --> 00:45:03,013
Speaker 2: sonic changes that comes more from the producer influence, you

896
00:45:03,053 --> 00:45:06,013
Speaker 2: think than the different music that you're listening to personally.

897
00:45:07,373 --> 00:45:07,853
Speaker 9: I mean, it's.

898
00:45:07,773 --> 00:45:10,773
Speaker 13: Probably a blend of both, but I think I'm really

899
00:45:12,173 --> 00:45:16,293
Speaker 13: I think because I learned to write songs in Nashville,

900
00:45:16,333 --> 00:45:19,133
Speaker 13: and like the collaborative process is me like coming in

901
00:45:19,213 --> 00:45:22,093
Speaker 13: as a writer that even though we could be writing

902
00:45:22,133 --> 00:45:27,173
Speaker 13: about something I'm going through emotionally that day, I still

903
00:45:27,213 --> 00:45:30,333
Speaker 13: want to come in and collaborate and you know, share

904
00:45:30,613 --> 00:45:33,533
Speaker 13: the message with the people I'm in the room with.

905
00:45:33,653 --> 00:45:36,253
Speaker 13: So you have to leave your ego at the door

906
00:45:36,813 --> 00:45:41,933
Speaker 13: to get the best possible thing. And so I think, yeah,

907
00:45:42,213 --> 00:45:44,773
Speaker 13: just there's a lot of like humbling and like give

908
00:45:44,813 --> 00:45:48,013
Speaker 13: and take I do with whoever I'm working with, And

909
00:45:48,093 --> 00:45:50,013
Speaker 13: I think it's just it could be the weather that day,

910
00:45:50,053 --> 00:45:52,813
Speaker 13: it could be how I'm feeling, it could be the

911
00:45:52,853 --> 00:45:56,853
Speaker 13: combination of people I'm working with. But I mean every song,

912
00:45:56,933 --> 00:46:01,413
Speaker 13: every song is a different mood depending on all those variables.

913
00:46:01,453 --> 00:46:04,533
Speaker 13: So I think, like you're going to hear every influence

914
00:46:04,573 --> 00:46:08,213
Speaker 13: I have come out however I'm feeling. But also, yeah,

915
00:46:08,253 --> 00:46:11,493
Speaker 13: the producer, the other writers bring out a ton of

916
00:46:13,173 --> 00:46:15,333
Speaker 13: differences in me, and I think that's why I love,

917
00:46:16,133 --> 00:46:18,933
Speaker 13: you know, my sort of people I always come back to,

918
00:46:19,413 --> 00:46:21,893
Speaker 13: and I love writing with on every record. But then

919
00:46:21,933 --> 00:46:25,173
Speaker 13: also I like meeting new people and figuring a new

920
00:46:25,173 --> 00:46:27,533
Speaker 13: thing out about myself that maybe like I had not

921
00:46:27,773 --> 00:46:28,613
Speaker 13: accessed before.

922
00:46:28,813 --> 00:46:31,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a process of kind of unlocking these

923
00:46:31,253 --> 00:46:35,933
Speaker 2: other frontiers or something like that. So Joel Little is

924
00:46:36,573 --> 00:46:38,173
Speaker 2: a friend of our show, so he's been on before.

925
00:46:38,213 --> 00:46:40,293
Speaker 2: We love Joel Little in New Zealandia. I feel like

926
00:46:40,333 --> 00:46:43,813
Speaker 2: we plot every single like stage in his career. So

927
00:46:43,813 --> 00:46:46,333
Speaker 2: tell us about tell us about your experience working with y'all.

928
00:46:47,533 --> 00:46:49,453
Speaker 13: Oh my gosh, I mean, he's just such a dream

929
00:46:49,893 --> 00:46:54,213
Speaker 13: and so kind and funny and like, you know, I

930
00:46:54,733 --> 00:46:58,493
Speaker 13: think the first time we wrote. I mean, I think

931
00:46:58,573 --> 00:47:02,053
Speaker 13: it was Cut, which is the song I wrote with

932
00:47:02,093 --> 00:47:05,853
Speaker 13: Joel and Julia Michaels and Julia is a duet on

933
00:47:05,973 --> 00:47:09,293
Speaker 13: the song. But I just remember he sent the demo back,

934
00:47:09,973 --> 00:47:13,613
Speaker 13: and obviously I'm well aware of his his work. He's

935
00:47:13,653 --> 00:47:18,293
Speaker 13: an extremely talented, successful writer, producer. But I was just

936
00:47:18,333 --> 00:47:20,973
Speaker 13: so blown away when he sent the Cut demo back,

937
00:47:21,053 --> 00:47:24,533
Speaker 13: and yeah, I was just like pleased. Any time you're

938
00:47:24,573 --> 00:47:27,853
Speaker 13: back in LA, I would love to get on your books.

939
00:47:28,013 --> 00:47:33,093
Speaker 13: And yeah, we ended up writing Too Good. I think

940
00:47:33,093 --> 00:47:35,293
Speaker 13: that next time he was back in the States, and

941
00:47:35,453 --> 00:47:38,173
Speaker 13: I just I'm obsessed with him. I love that he

942
00:47:39,933 --> 00:47:44,533
Speaker 13: takes my wacky ideas because Cut and Two Good are

943
00:47:44,653 --> 00:47:47,213
Speaker 13: very different from each other, even though Joel you know,

944
00:47:47,613 --> 00:47:51,293
Speaker 13: wrote and produced them both with me. But I think that, Yeah,

945
00:47:51,293 --> 00:47:54,773
Speaker 13: that's like the fun part is he is just game

946
00:47:54,893 --> 00:47:57,213
Speaker 13: for whatever I throw at him when I walk into

947
00:47:57,253 --> 00:48:00,853
Speaker 13: the session, and he just executes it brilliantly. Like it's

948
00:48:00,933 --> 00:48:05,133
Speaker 13: just he's so so talented and so like so kind.

949
00:48:05,253 --> 00:48:07,413
Speaker 13: Maybe it's a maybe it's a New Zealand thing you

950
00:48:07,653 --> 00:48:09,813
Speaker 13: were just really did on Earth Human.

951
00:48:10,773 --> 00:48:12,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I'd like to say that, But

952
00:48:12,813 --> 00:48:15,133
Speaker 2: I think Joel's one of a card definitely. It's amazing

953
00:48:15,453 --> 00:48:18,533
Speaker 2: the extent to which he gives back to musicians and

954
00:48:18,613 --> 00:48:20,653
Speaker 2: the kind of you know, underground music community in New

955
00:48:20,733 --> 00:48:23,333
Speaker 2: Zealand as well. He's done so much for up and

956
00:48:23,373 --> 00:48:26,613
Speaker 2: coming musicians in New Zealand. You toured with the Czechs,

957
00:48:26,653 --> 00:48:28,973
Speaker 2: who have actually also also been on the show before.

958
00:48:29,053 --> 00:48:31,093
Speaker 2: So how was How was that? I mean we think

959
00:48:31,093 --> 00:48:34,573
Speaker 2: of them as being kind of trial blazing and outspoken

960
00:48:34,613 --> 00:48:38,333
Speaker 2: in these defining figures within country music. How was How

961
00:48:38,373 --> 00:48:39,133
Speaker 2: was your experience?

962
00:48:40,453 --> 00:48:46,933
Speaker 13: I mean incredible? We did Canada and Europe UK with them,

963
00:48:47,333 --> 00:48:51,333
Speaker 13: and I mean they're my heroes. Like I remember they're

964
00:48:51,333 --> 00:48:54,773
Speaker 13: from uh, North Texas as well. So like when they

965
00:48:54,933 --> 00:48:58,093
Speaker 13: put out that first album in like nineteen ninety eight,

966
00:48:58,093 --> 00:49:00,373
Speaker 13: I think it was like wide open spaces. I mean,

967
00:49:00,573 --> 00:49:03,253
Speaker 13: I obviously it was huge, but I was just so

968
00:49:04,093 --> 00:49:08,493
Speaker 13: that really like opened my mind to the possibilities of

969
00:49:09,333 --> 00:49:15,653
Speaker 13: you know, songwriting, of musicianship, because they're all incredible musicians,

970
00:49:15,693 --> 00:49:20,973
Speaker 13: like multi instrumentalists. Natalie's voice is just so like no

971
00:49:21,013 --> 00:49:23,213
Speaker 13: one else on this planet sounds like her. There's just

972
00:49:23,253 --> 00:49:25,493
Speaker 13: and then just the three of them together, I mean,

973
00:49:25,533 --> 00:49:30,933
Speaker 13: it's just such a powerful collaboration, and I just I

974
00:49:31,093 --> 00:49:36,573
Speaker 13: also love that they really champion songwriters like the Dicksie

975
00:49:36,693 --> 00:49:40,133
Speaker 13: or the Chicks are how I discovered Patty Griffin, who's

976
00:49:40,133 --> 00:49:43,853
Speaker 13: like one of my favorite artists songwriters heroes of all time,

977
00:49:44,173 --> 00:49:47,453
Speaker 13: and that's only because the Chicks recorded her song let

978
00:49:47,533 --> 00:49:50,613
Speaker 13: Him Fly. And so yeah, I just love that they

979
00:49:50,693 --> 00:49:55,493
Speaker 13: like truly love songwriters and they are incredible songwriters themselves.

980
00:49:55,533 --> 00:49:58,253
Speaker 13: But yeah, being on the road with them was just

981
00:49:58,293 --> 00:50:02,773
Speaker 13: such a dream. And they uh outside of their music,

982
00:50:02,973 --> 00:50:08,893
Speaker 13: their allyship, they're just going against the grain and sticking

983
00:50:09,013 --> 00:50:14,373
Speaker 13: like really just staying within their morals so powerfully, like

984
00:50:14,533 --> 00:50:19,413
Speaker 13: over decades. It's just such a testament to like what

985
00:50:19,453 --> 00:50:22,733
Speaker 13: they believe in and just what good people they are.

986
00:50:22,933 --> 00:50:25,253
Speaker 13: So yeah, it was definitely one of the most like

987
00:50:25,493 --> 00:50:29,373
Speaker 13: fun tours I've gotten to do because they mean so

988
00:50:29,453 --> 00:50:29,893
Speaker 13: much to me.

989
00:50:30,173 --> 00:50:33,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're incredible, like courageous women. It's yeah, I

990
00:50:33,773 --> 00:50:35,493
Speaker 2: can see that would have been so special. So I

991
00:50:35,493 --> 00:50:38,653
Speaker 2: think you were here in twenty eighteen right with Niale Horn.

992
00:50:40,333 --> 00:50:42,733
Speaker 2: I reckon when you get to New Zealand, you're going

993
00:50:42,813 --> 00:50:45,093
Speaker 2: to be like, whoa things have changed in New Zealand

994
00:50:45,213 --> 00:50:49,173
Speaker 2: in that country music here is so big right now,

995
00:50:49,493 --> 00:50:53,493
Speaker 2: Like it's crazy the kind of the kind of change

996
00:50:53,533 --> 00:50:56,053
Speaker 2: that's happened in just the last couple of years. So

997
00:50:56,373 --> 00:51:00,653
Speaker 2: I wonder what's your sceense, Like, do you have any

998
00:51:00,733 --> 00:51:03,253
Speaker 2: kind of thoughts or ideas as to why country music

999
00:51:03,853 --> 00:51:06,893
Speaker 2: is stretching so far beyond its original or roots and

1000
00:51:06,933 --> 00:51:08,653
Speaker 2: connecting with different audiences at the moment.

1001
00:51:11,893 --> 00:51:14,493
Speaker 13: I mean, you'd have to tell me, like in New Zealand,

1002
00:51:15,173 --> 00:51:19,413
Speaker 13: like what kind of country music is resonating?

1003
00:51:19,493 --> 00:51:21,893
Speaker 2: I mean, so I would say country music in the

1004
00:51:21,933 --> 00:51:24,933
Speaker 2: broadest sense, but even little things right like we've got

1005
00:51:24,973 --> 00:51:27,653
Speaker 2: brand new like iHeart streaming stations that are focused on

1006
00:51:27,693 --> 00:51:29,933
Speaker 2: country because there's such a demand for a range of

1007
00:51:29,973 --> 00:51:33,133
Speaker 2: country music at the moment that maybe didn't exist, you know,

1008
00:51:33,453 --> 00:51:36,933
Speaker 2: you know, say ten years ago. And I don't know

1009
00:51:36,933 --> 00:51:43,613
Speaker 2: if it's the lyricism or the storytelling or something about

1010
00:51:43,653 --> 00:51:47,933
Speaker 2: the musicality itself, but clearly there's like a growing audience

1011
00:51:47,933 --> 00:51:49,693
Speaker 2: of people in New Zealand who might never have thought

1012
00:51:49,733 --> 00:51:51,613
Speaker 2: they would ever listen to anything that could be deemed

1013
00:51:51,653 --> 00:51:54,293
Speaker 2: to be country music, who are really seeking it out

1014
00:51:54,333 --> 00:51:56,333
Speaker 2: at the moment. And I think, I mean the sense

1015
00:51:56,373 --> 00:51:58,333
Speaker 2: I get is that it's happening and lots of places

1016
00:51:58,333 --> 00:51:58,933
Speaker 2: around the world.

1017
00:52:00,773 --> 00:52:05,853
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's definitely like a popular or mainstream genre of

1018
00:52:05,933 --> 00:52:08,653
Speaker 13: music because I mean, like when I was in junior

1019
00:52:08,733 --> 00:52:13,093
Speaker 13: high school, even in Texas, it was a very small

1020
00:52:13,133 --> 00:52:17,213
Speaker 13: group of like teenagers that would admit to listening to

1021
00:52:17,333 --> 00:52:21,373
Speaker 13: country music, Like it wasn't considered cool at that time.

1022
00:52:21,453 --> 00:52:23,693
Speaker 13: Like it's so different now. I think also with like

1023
00:52:23,733 --> 00:52:29,653
Speaker 13: social media and younger people's access to it has also

1024
00:52:29,733 --> 00:52:32,693
Speaker 13: made it this worldwide genre and not just something that

1025
00:52:33,973 --> 00:52:37,573
Speaker 13: the States has. But now I mean, like I think

1026
00:52:37,653 --> 00:52:44,013
Speaker 13: people crave authenticity and that's kind of the bedrock of

1027
00:52:44,453 --> 00:52:49,893
Speaker 13: the lyricism and storytelling of country music. But it's also

1028
00:52:49,973 --> 00:52:54,933
Speaker 13: like it's an incredibly diverse genre, and I think like

1029
00:52:55,053 --> 00:53:00,133
Speaker 13: every you know, ten years, like there's some genre that

1030
00:53:00,213 --> 00:53:02,533
Speaker 13: becomes like more mainstream. I feel like for you know,

1031
00:53:02,613 --> 00:53:04,413
Speaker 13: a very long time, and still is it is like

1032
00:53:04,493 --> 00:53:09,013
Speaker 13: hip hop and R and B and country like was

1033
00:53:09,013 --> 00:53:10,933
Speaker 13: sort of waiting in the wings for a while, and

1034
00:53:10,973 --> 00:53:14,053
Speaker 13: now it's like, you know, on charts that aren't just

1035
00:53:14,133 --> 00:53:17,293
Speaker 13: dedicated to its own genre, like it's on you know,

1036
00:53:17,373 --> 00:53:20,533
Speaker 13: mainstream charts. But no, I mean I think Yeah, it's

1037
00:53:20,573 --> 00:53:24,853
Speaker 13: just and there's more, you know, collaboration, like artists sort

1038
00:53:24,853 --> 00:53:29,413
Speaker 13: of like cross genre being on each other's songs, like

1039
00:53:29,533 --> 00:53:33,453
Speaker 13: duets that crossover. Like I mean, this isn't a country song,

1040
00:53:33,533 --> 00:53:38,653
Speaker 13: but I was a country artist when I jumped on

1041
00:53:38,893 --> 00:53:42,053
Speaker 13: the Middle in twenty eighteen, and it brought a ton

1042
00:53:42,093 --> 00:53:46,613
Speaker 13: of people to my work because you know, even though

1043
00:53:46,613 --> 00:53:49,933
Speaker 13: I was successful in the States and like parts of UK,

1044
00:53:50,253 --> 00:53:53,533
Speaker 13: like it wasn't you know, in Australia and so like

1045
00:53:53,613 --> 00:53:55,733
Speaker 13: when I was boring with Nile, I think The Middle

1046
00:53:55,773 --> 00:53:58,853
Speaker 13: had just come out and people knew that song. So

1047
00:53:59,733 --> 00:54:03,013
Speaker 13: it felt like, okay, like it's introducing my work that's

1048
00:54:03,013 --> 00:54:06,453
Speaker 13: been you know, predominantly country and on country charts to

1049
00:54:07,733 --> 00:54:10,933
Speaker 13: the world through this like eight M pop song.

1050
00:54:11,373 --> 00:54:11,613
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1051
00:54:11,693 --> 00:54:14,533
Speaker 13: So yeah, I think music is just all around right now,

1052
00:54:14,613 --> 00:54:20,013
Speaker 13: like extremely diverse and collaborative and you know, cross pollinated.

1053
00:54:20,493 --> 00:54:23,453
Speaker 2: That's a very smart analysis and a very very good,

1054
00:54:23,773 --> 00:54:26,533
Speaker 2: a very good word for it. Look, we're so delighted

1055
00:54:26,533 --> 00:54:28,933
Speaker 2: with Dreamsicle and so so pleased that you're going to

1056
00:54:28,973 --> 00:54:30,813
Speaker 2: be headlining in New Zealand. I just hope that you're

1057
00:54:30,813 --> 00:54:33,613
Speaker 2: going to carve out like a couple of days somewhere

1058
00:54:33,653 --> 00:54:36,573
Speaker 2: so you can have a vacation while you're hear I

1059
00:54:36,613 --> 00:54:37,493
Speaker 2: have some days.

1060
00:54:37,293 --> 00:54:41,213
Speaker 13: Off like buffering in between, but no, I mean I'm

1061
00:54:41,253 --> 00:54:44,253
Speaker 13: so excited. I feel like when I was there last,

1062
00:54:45,773 --> 00:54:47,493
Speaker 13: we had a day off and we went on the

1063
00:54:47,533 --> 00:54:51,253
Speaker 13: ferry to like the vineyards the Windy Island.

1064
00:54:51,493 --> 00:54:55,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

1065
00:54:55,293 --> 00:54:57,533
Speaker 13: Definitely need to carve out a day for that because

1066
00:54:57,573 --> 00:54:59,213
Speaker 13: that was that was a dream.

1067
00:54:59,693 --> 00:55:02,213
Speaker 2: It's all about being present, you know. This is that

1068
00:55:02,453 --> 00:55:04,733
Speaker 2: you got to lean into the dreams ethos here.

1069
00:55:05,373 --> 00:55:07,413
Speaker 13: Yees, be present and your wine drunk.

1070
00:55:08,613 --> 00:55:11,173
Speaker 2: Hey, it's such a pleasure to speak. I know how

1071
00:55:11,213 --> 00:55:14,013
Speaker 2: busy you are, so we really appreciate it. All the

1072
00:55:14,093 --> 00:55:15,933
Speaker 2: very best with Dreamsicle, and we cannot wait to have

1073
00:55:15,973 --> 00:55:16,733
Speaker 2: you in New Zealand soon.

1074
00:55:18,133 --> 00:55:18,613
Speaker 6: Thank you.

1075
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Speaker 13: I can't wait to be there. I'm counting it on

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Speaker 13: the days.

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Speaker 2: So good. That is Maren Morris. She is coming to

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. Tickets for her Dreamsicle tour are available through Ticketmaster.

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Speaker 2: We've got all the deats up at newstalkshadb dot co

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Speaker 2: dot in seed in a couple of minutes. If you're

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Speaker 2: looking for something good to watch or stream at your

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Speaker 2: place this weekend, a nice weekend on the couch. Good news.

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Speaker 2: We've got three fantastic shows to recommend in our screen

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Speaker 2: time segment Right now it is twenty three minutes past ten.

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Speaker 1: Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack

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Speaker 1: Tain and BPW it dot code on instead for high

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Speaker 5: News Talk saidb.

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Speaker 2: Jack loved your interview with Maren Morris. She's an absolute

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Speaker 2: favorite for me. Can't wait for a New Zealand shows

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Speaker 2: next year. Thank you. Ninety two to ninety two is

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Speaker 2: our text number if you want to send us a

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Speaker 2: message this morning, it is screen time time on Newstalks.

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Speaker 2: He'd be to our award. Join us at this time

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Speaker 2: every week with her three picks for shows to watch

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Speaker 2: or stream at home. Hey Tara, good morning. Let's begin

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Speaker 2: this morning for the show streaming on Netflix. From the

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Speaker 2: creator of the series Girls, tell us about too.

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Speaker 16: Much and this is a new romantic comedy series and

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Speaker 16: as you say, created and directed by Lenna Dunham, who

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Speaker 16: is best known for her HBO series Girls, which was

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Speaker 16: a series about four women living in New York and

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Speaker 16: it was a very sharp, funny, brutal look female friendship.

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Speaker 16: And now Lenna Dunham has taken that kind of sensibility

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Speaker 16: to the rom com. This is about Jess, who is

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Speaker 16: in her thirties. She's living in New York and she

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Speaker 16: takes a new job in London to escape a bad breakup.

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Speaker 16: And Jess loves English rom coms, and so when she

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Speaker 16: moves to the UK, she expects her new life to

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Speaker 16: be something right out of notting Hill or love. Actually,

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Speaker 16: she meets a musician, they fall in love, and they

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Speaker 16: have to work through a lot of cultural clashes and expectations.

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Speaker 16: And the interesting thing about Too Much is that it's

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Speaker 16: based on Lena Dunham's own real life experience of moving

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Speaker 16: to the UK and falling in love with a musician

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00:57:11,413 --> 00:57:13,853
Speaker 16: who she went on to marry, So there's quite a

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Speaker 16: lot of her own story woven through this. And it

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Speaker 16: also has this amazing cast Richardie Grant, Jennifer Saunders, Naomi Watts,

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Speaker 16: Rita Wilson, Andrew Scott. She's pulled in some real superstar

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Speaker 16: power here. But don't go into this thinking it is

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Speaker 16: a Richard Curtis film. This is funny and there are

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Speaker 16: moments of sweetness, but it's also quite blunt at times,

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Speaker 16: and there's always a bit of an underlying bleakness to

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Speaker 16: Lena Dunnan's work, and the characters can be hard to

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Speaker 16: like sometimes and you can feel that here. But if

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Speaker 16: you want a rom com with a bit of a

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Speaker 16: bite to it, this is definitely worth us.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, cool, that's too much. That's on Netflix, on

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Speaker 2: Disney plus Jaws at fifty.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's fifty years since the movie Jaws was released,

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Speaker 16: and this is a really fascinating documentary about how Steven

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Speaker 16: Spielberg made this movie and how Jaws changed movies forever.

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Speaker 16: This was the first ever big budget American summer blockbuster

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Speaker 16: that encouraged a real visceral experience for the audience, and

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Speaker 16: so the documentary talks to a lot of people who

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Speaker 16: were involved in the film, the actors and as well

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Speaker 16: as director Steven Spielberg, who looks back on what was

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Speaker 16: a really difficult film to make. It went millions of

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Speaker 16: a budget, It took longer to film than it was

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Speaker 16: supposed to. The boats sank while they were filming. The

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Speaker 16: shark didn't work eighty percent of the time. He thought

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Speaker 16: this was going to be the last movie he ever made.

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Speaker 16: It was considered to be a disaster until it became

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Speaker 16: a hit, and so it's amazing to look back from

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Speaker 16: where we are today, where we rely on CGI and

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Speaker 16: special effects, to see how they made this film and

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Speaker 16: how powerful the simplicity of it actually is. I don't

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Speaker 16: think I've ever seen all of Jaws. I think I

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Speaker 16: chickened out pretty early on, but I still really enjoyed this.

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Speaker 16: It's quite a niche, but it's a snapshot of time

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Speaker 16: about what was going on in American culture in the

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Speaker 16: nineteen seventies and the impact that the film had, particularly

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Speaker 16: on shark numbers. You know that Shark Hunting became a

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Speaker 16: huge after Jaws, and it was the first big blockbuster

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Speaker 16: movie that sort of changed everything for film. So, you know,

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Speaker 16: really interesting documentary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, Okay, looking forward to seeing that. It's yours

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Speaker 2: at fifty The Definitive Inside Story its on Disney Plus

1159
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Speaker 2: and on tv Z Plus and YouTube. Speaking of anniversaries,

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Speaker 2: it is twenty years since Outrageous Fortune hit our screens.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, twenty years today. This was Outrageous Fortune, the New

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Speaker 16: Zealand series that starred Robin Malcolm as the matriarch of

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Speaker 16: the West family, who were a career a family of

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Speaker 16: career criminals living in west Auckland who decided to go

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Speaker 16: straight and try and live an honest life, and it

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Speaker 16: was a lot harder than they thought it would be

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Speaker 16: and outrageous fortune captured our hearts in a way that

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Speaker 16: no other New Zealand show had done before. We hadn't

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Speaker 16: made anything like it. It was deliberately in your face.

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Speaker 16: There was lots of sex and swearing and bad behavior,

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Speaker 16: but it also had these characters that we recognized and

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Speaker 16: fell in love with, and it was funny to It

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Speaker 16: made us laugh at ourselves in a way that we

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Speaker 16: hadn't before. And so I've been rewatching it again twenty

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Speaker 16: years on and it still holds up. I mean, there

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Speaker 16: are moments where you think, well, you know, I don't

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Speaker 16: know if that would pass today, or that might not

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Speaker 16: work in twenty twenty five. But at the core of it,

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Speaker 16: it's the story about a New Zealand family who are

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Speaker 16: trying to be good, trying to get ahead, and that

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Speaker 16: still resonates twenty years on. So all six seasons are

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Speaker 16: on TVNZ plus. If you have friends and family outside

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Speaker 16: of New Zealand who want to watch SPP. South Pacific

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Speaker 16: Pictures have put all six seasons up on YouTube, so

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Speaker 16: every episode is up there. You can watch it wherever

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Speaker 16: you are in the world and just enjoy a bit

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Speaker 16: of classic New Zealand teleibision.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, such a good recommendation, Thank you, Tara. So those

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Speaker 2: shows once Again, Too Much is the one by Elena

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Speaker 2: Dunham that's on Netflix. Jaws at Fifties on Disney Plus,

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Speaker 2: Outrageous Fortune is on TV and z Plus and YouTube

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Speaker 2: for anyone who's out of the country. All of those

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Speaker 2: recommendations will of course be on the news doalg 'b website.

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Speaker 2: It's just after ten.

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Speaker 1: Thirty getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack

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Speaker 1: Team on Newstalks.

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Speaker 2: B is a Beauty.

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Speaker 6: Life.

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Speaker 2: There were whispers, there were whispers. In fact, even I'd

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Speaker 2: heard the whispers, which is saying something. But the whispers

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Speaker 2: and the rumors were all proved true last night when

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Speaker 2: Justin Bieber dropped an entire twenty one song album. His

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Speaker 2: album is called Swag. It's the seventh album from the

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Speaker 2: former tween idol Jbeebes, a title which he puts some

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Speaker 2: work into dropping. He was keen to adjust his image

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Speaker 2: from cheesy heart throb into a leading figure in the

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Speaker 2: pop zeitgeist. And there's no denying. He is a massive star.

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Speaker 2: He's a household name globally, but how well his music

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Speaker 2: stacks up to his reputation in a critical sense at least,

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Speaker 2: has always been debatable. His fourth album, Purpose was a

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Speaker 2: big shift towards justin finding his musical identity. That was

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Speaker 2: back in twenty fifteen, though ten years ago a lot

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Speaker 2: of people felt like he's kind of slid back into

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Speaker 2: more of a generic pop sound in the time since.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to have a bit of a listen

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Speaker 2: this morning. We'll save some time before midday, make sure

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Speaker 2: we have a little bit of a listen to a

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Speaker 2: couple of tracks from Swag so we can decide whether

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Speaker 2: or not it delivers. Our music reviewer at Cel Clifford

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Speaker 2: has been listening tirelessly to those twenty one albums overnight

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Speaker 2: so she can bring us her analysis of Swag. The

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Speaker 2: album will have that very shortly before eleven o'clock. They

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Speaker 2: were in the garden. This is the time of year,

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Speaker 2: depending on how things are at your place, when if

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Speaker 2: you are thinking about moving a sapling or moving a tree,

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Speaker 2: now's the time to do it. Much better to do

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Speaker 2: it now when water is abundant than in the middle

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Speaker 2: of summer, so our man in the garden is going

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Speaker 2: to give us his tips on doing that. Right now,

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Speaker 2: it's twenty four to eleven on news Dog Seed be

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Speaker 2: putting the.

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Speaker 1: Time questions to the newspeakers the mic asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 17: It looks like Doc is going to do a u

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Speaker 17: turnover those lizards. They initially told mccray's mine in Central

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Speaker 17: Otago no, they couldn't expand ten thousand lizards might die.

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Speaker 17: But then after media attention yesterday, they've taken another look

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Speaker 17: at the application. Thamma Paultucker is the conservation Minister and

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Speaker 17: with us, is it going to be a yes?

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Speaker 7: Well, that's the matter that Doc and Oceana worked on

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Speaker 7: at a very productive meeting. I expect that they're going

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Speaker 7: to progress that application very swiftly.

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Speaker 17: Did you tell Doc to have another look at it?

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Speaker 7: I found out about this matter, and I've said to

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Speaker 7: dot for what has happened here, but that in fessed up.

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Speaker 7: There was a miscommunication. They weren't clear about information requirements

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Speaker 7: and they declined it too quickly.

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Speaker 1: Hither duplessy Ellen on the mic Hosking Breakfast back Monday

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Speaker 1: from six am with the land Rover Discovery on News

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Speaker 1: Talks dB.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one to eleven on News Talks here Bear Course

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Speaker 2: Newsalks TB is going to have live coverage of the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks vers France the second test in Wellington this evening,

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Speaker 2: but it's a double heat. You got the Black Ferns

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Speaker 2: and Australian. So Lee's took me a note to say, Jack,

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Speaker 2: where can I hear coverage of that game? Gold Sport's

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Speaker 2: going to have coverage of that this afternoon, So if

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Speaker 2: you want to enjoy the double head of both games

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Speaker 2: this afternoon, that is the place to go. Thank you, Lee.

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Speaker 2: I'll get to more of your messages about soul A

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Speaker 2: Power in a couple of minutes as well. We have

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Speaker 2: had so many texts and emails about that this morning,

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Speaker 2: but right now it is time to catch up with

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Speaker 2: our texpert, Paul Stenhouse is our man with the weekly

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Speaker 2: updates from the tech world, and Paul, it's been a

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Speaker 2: bit of a worrying week in terms of development for AI.

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Speaker 2: This week we've put acrossed another little threshold. The US

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Speaker 2: Secretary of State has been impersonated using AI.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, very worrying.

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Speaker 18: I mean we've talked about this technology in the past

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Speaker 18: of it being available, you sort of can just take

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Speaker 18: clips of people's voices, right, and you don't even need

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Speaker 18: that munch You figure, like someone like Michael Rubio, who's

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Speaker 18: been around microphones for a very long time in uish politics,

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Speaker 18: You've got a lot of clips to use, and you

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Speaker 18: can upload the and you can very easily and quickly

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Speaker 18: create realistic sounding voices, complete less synthetically. And this week

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Speaker 18: news broke that his voice had been used and three

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Speaker 18: foreign ministers, a US governor, and a member of Congress

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Speaker 18: all received outreach from this fake Marco Rubio. Now something

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Speaker 18: was amiss, and I think they knew that, and obviously

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Speaker 18: this is why it was reported, but very scary stuff.

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Speaker 18: And they did it using the encrypted app Signal. And

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Speaker 18: why that's interesting to me is that if you're if

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Speaker 18: you're in the political circle, you would know that Marco

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Speaker 18: Rubio uses Signal for US government actions because he was

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Speaker 18: caught with j D Varnsenco talking about bombings on Signal

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Speaker 18: in a group chat. And so these foreign leaders or

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Speaker 18: other leaders in government got an account popped up on

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Speaker 18: their device and said, hey, this person wants to chat

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Speaker 18: with you, and on Signal you can see anything you

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Speaker 18: want as your username. So what they did is they

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Speaker 18: put in like Marco dot Rubio at state dot gov,

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Speaker 18: which you can type anything you want in there. You

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Speaker 18: could be Donald dot trumpet whenever you want.

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Speaker 4: It to be.

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Speaker 18: So they got this thing and it said, you know,

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Speaker 18: you've got a message from Marca Rubio. They got a

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Speaker 18: voice note from Marco Rubio, some of them got text messages.

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Speaker 18: You wouldn't know if it was him or not. Like

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Speaker 18: we're definitely at a point now where how do you

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Speaker 18: know that it is or isn't MARKA Rubio?

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon there's anything, there's anything that that we're

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Speaker 2: going to be able to do, like a kind of

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Speaker 2: verifying like a bona fide impenetrable, safe verifying process for

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Speaker 2: communications and things in the future. It's sort of hard

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Speaker 2: to imagine a world in which they'll design something that

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Speaker 2: will be that comprehensive.

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Speaker 18: A yeah, and then how it's probably easy to foil, right,

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Speaker 18: like someone can just like mess with the signature or like,

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Speaker 18: I think that the thing that we're going to see

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Speaker 18: is this like end to end encryption type stuff where

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Speaker 18: you identify the device and you may be able to

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Speaker 18: identify the device by which someone is sending you something.

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Speaker 15: Right, that may be the way we go.

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Speaker 18: It's it's gonna be tough. I mean, you hear of

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Speaker 18: those crazy stories. I don't know if you've ever done

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Speaker 18: this in your journalistic training of hostile environment training and things,

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Speaker 18: but you hear of cases where high profile people have

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Speaker 18: certain words and phrases that they use if they were

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Speaker 18: ever to be taken hostage, or we have to be

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Speaker 18: in situations where certain phrases or certain answers to questions

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Speaker 18: mean or trigger certain things, right, right, And so I

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Speaker 18: don't know, maybe we're at the point where if you

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Speaker 18: and I are talking, it's like, hey, if we talk

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Speaker 18: about a particular thing, or I say, hey, how are you,

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Speaker 18: you're like.

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Speaker 2: The sky islahoma yeah.

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Speaker 18: Or something weird, like yeah, the cat's really not well

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Speaker 18: at the moment, I don't know, like, oh, I know

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Speaker 18: it's Jack, the cat's not well.

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Speaker 14: Like maybe we're at that point.

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Speaker 18: I truly don't know. But yeah, the fact that these

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Speaker 18: people got this and you know, made it that far

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Speaker 18: is kind of scary.

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Speaker 2: That's really intriguing, as it's going to be a huge challenge,

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Speaker 2: I think, and and like you say that, you know,

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Speaker 2: this is just the tip of the icebo. You can

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Speaker 2: imagine all the kinds of applications that this could be

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Speaker 2: used to to impersonate leaders or banks or whatever in

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Speaker 2: the future. It's going to be pretty concerning. Hey, Samsung

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Speaker 2: is exploring new wearables, so technology that will use AI

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Speaker 2: and could kind of replace smartphones or be the new smartphone.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, they said this week that they're investigating a whole

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Speaker 18: range of things, and I thought the list was kind

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Speaker 18: of interesting. Honestly, Samsung does some really cool stuff. We

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Speaker 18: talk a lot about Apple and they are a big, trilling,

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Speaker 18: multi three trilling dollar company, but man, Samsung really does

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Speaker 18: push the mark whan. They've got like the folding iPhones.

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Speaker 18: Folding iPhones listen to me, the folding phones that you

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Speaker 18: know turn out into like a tablet. Very cool stuff

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Speaker 18: they are. They definitely lead the way. They're one of

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Speaker 18: the first with smart watches, and so now they're thinking

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Speaker 18: what could we do and they're looking at glasses like everybody.

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Speaker 18: But they're also thinking about AI enabled airrings.

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Speaker 15: Which I thought was really interesting.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, what do you like You've got like a little

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Speaker 18: kind of computer attached to you.

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Speaker 2: I'm not convinced by that way. It's yeah, it's more

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Speaker 2: like you.

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Speaker 18: It's it's we know that close enough that it could

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Speaker 18: be used as a microphone. We could probably do some

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Speaker 18: interesting things with a speaker.

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Speaker 14: It's interesting, interesting take.

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Speaker 18: Also looking at watches, rings, we've kind of seen some

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Speaker 18: of that, but also a necklace. Maybe you could make

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Speaker 18: the necklace style show. I don't know if you've ever realized,

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Speaker 18: if you watch as much reality TV as I do, Jack,

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Speaker 18: that they've started to give reality TV stars on these

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Speaker 18: shows necklaces.

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Speaker 2: Oh, because I put the microphone once, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 18: And you know so then it doesn't look like you're

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Speaker 18: watching like someone. But they've all got these kind of

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Speaker 18: somewhat ridiculous looking necklaces. Maybe that'll be what we all say,

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Speaker 18: kind of like Love Island style necklaces.

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Speaker 7: Maybe.

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Speaker 2: Well, given I thought that like smartphones would never catch on,

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Speaker 2: I'm probably not one who should be making any any

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Speaker 2: predictions about what technology is going to define our future.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, not personally convinced by either necklaces or ear

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Speaker 2: rings glasses. Yeah, but okay, we'll see. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Paul Paul Stenhouse is our texpert. Right now, it's quarter

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Speaker 2: to eleven. Your wine pick for the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Next a little bit of way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 2: Are looking for a good drop to enjoy alongside the

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Speaker 2: rugby this evening, Master sommelier Cameron Douglas is here with

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Speaker 2: his pick for us this weekend.

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Speaker 5: Hey Cameron, good morning.

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Speaker 19: Once again you.

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Speaker 2: Have chosen a Thomas Barton Reserve Saint Milion twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: three for about thirty six ninety nine. So tell us

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Speaker 2: about this wine.

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Speaker 19: Well, it's a hat tip in some respects to the

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Speaker 19: French rugby team today. Although I'm an all Black fan,

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Speaker 19: I wanted to show that we can have a wine

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Speaker 19: and enjoy with food that is from somewhere else for

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Speaker 19: a change. And I think listeners sometimes want to know

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Speaker 19: what reserve on a wine label means when they are

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Speaker 19: purchasing something, and it can mean one of two things

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Speaker 19: or both. And that is a wine maker's favorite blend

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01:11:09,493 --> 01:11:15,133
Speaker 19: or more appropriately, a barrel selection. So it's a smaller

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Speaker 19: amount of wine and fewer barrels that they love the most,

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Speaker 19: and they call.

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Speaker 2: It reserve, right, yeah, which makes sense. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: the reserve the very best of the best, right, So

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Speaker 2: what does it taste like?

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Speaker 19: Well, it's a blend. It's a right bank Bordeaux wine

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Speaker 19: from Santa Million, So it's a blend of Merlow and

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Speaker 19: Cabinet Fronc. It's mostly Merlo these days. And it's a

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Speaker 19: wine of weight and richness. It's got that classic bouquet

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01:11:41,493 --> 01:11:44,813
Speaker 19: of Doris plums and BlackBerry and all of these baking

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Speaker 19: spices from the use of oak, but a clove and

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Speaker 19: vanilla and what I call a hint of bacon oak.

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Speaker 19: And it's not like the oak taste like bacon. It's

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Speaker 19: just that some oak barrels throw a slight bacony type

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Speaker 19: character and that just gives us what we call complexity.

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Speaker 2: Nice. So what would you choose to eat with this wine?

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Speaker 2: Do you think?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 19: I tried the swine actually in France at the producer's

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Speaker 19: chateau last week, and I've had it here in New Zealand,

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Speaker 19: and so my food matches are based on what I

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Speaker 19: had over there and what I know I can work

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Speaker 19: with here. So that classic pork belly with apple sauce

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Speaker 19: and crispy skin with a little mashed potato is a

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Speaker 19: wonderful match. But if you like a shepherd's pie and

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Speaker 19: you're very deep into the winter mode still, then that's

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Speaker 19: again the little mashed potato on top. But it works

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Speaker 19: rather well with all those earthy flavors.

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Speaker 5: In the pie.

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Speaker 2: Rich food and something quite rich foods, you.

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Speaker 19: Know what it is. But the you know, the weight

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Speaker 19: and richness of wine which this has, needs to have

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Speaker 19: a food pairing that has equal weight and richness. I

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Speaker 19: also have a vegetarian dish because I you know that

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Speaker 19: word simplicity with food comes great with vegetarian food, so

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Speaker 19: like as simple as only with lots of spinach and

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Speaker 19: lots of change. Bescher mal source works well too.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you won me over Cameron, as you always do.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three in France was an interesting season too,

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Speaker 2: So how is that reflected in the wine?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 19: I did some research on the weather again just to

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Speaker 19: remind myself, and it was one of those classic vintages

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Speaker 19: where there was some inclement weather and it all depends

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Speaker 19: on what part of France and Bordeaux you were in.

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Speaker 5: But it was really.

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Speaker 19: Quite hot through July and August, and there was some

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01:13:42,493 --> 01:13:45,693
Speaker 19: stressed vines we call them because they didn't get enough water.

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Speaker 19: But overall, really it was a decent harvest because they

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Speaker 19: had lower crops and they needed to be more selective

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Speaker 19: in what they were choosing for wine blends. And I

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Speaker 19: guess the proof really is and when you try that wine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Okay, so you've chosen the Thomas Barton

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Speaker 2: Reserve Saint Emilion from twenty twenty three as your wine

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Speaker 2: this week. We'll make sure that's the news talk'd the website.

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Speaker 2: You have a great weekend, you.

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Speaker 7: Too, sir.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guarding with still sharp one hundred bucks of

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Speaker 1: free accessories on selected chainsaws.

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Speaker 2: Rude climb past is our man in the garden.

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Speaker 18: Hey, Rude, are you all right there?

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Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. Yep. Dry enough which is

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Speaker 2: given the last twenty four hours, last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: I'm pleased about it, although I go. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 2: to going home this afternoon, getting on the roof and

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Speaker 2: working out what happened with our internal gutto because there

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Speaker 2: was a leak in the all of the lounge. So

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Speaker 2: uh hurrah.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, we had a check to somebody literally yesterday

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Speaker 3: about internal guttering. My goodness, you got to really make

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Speaker 3: sure she put those up right there.

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Speaker 2: Oh so it's anyway, I mean, compared to lots of

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Speaker 2: other people, I have no reason to complain right now,

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Speaker 2: So no, no, never mind. Hey, we're talking transporting trees

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01:14:58,013 --> 01:14:59,733
Speaker 2: this morning. This is one thing we've been debating at

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01:14:59,773 --> 01:15:02,013
Speaker 2: our house because my wife has now decided that despite

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Speaker 2: it's despite the fact that it's absolutely thriving at the moment,

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Speaker 2: she maybe wants me to move our pomegranate tree. And

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Speaker 2: this is the timing year to do it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this is right, and what a clever idea actually,

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01:15:13,293 --> 01:15:15,493
Speaker 3: because this is the time to do it, and to

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01:15:15,573 --> 01:15:17,813
Speaker 3: do it because you got plenty you know, you all

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01:15:17,813 --> 01:15:20,493
Speaker 3: have plenty of water coming in the future, and they

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01:15:20,533 --> 01:15:23,453
Speaker 3: are kind of more or less dormant, and that is

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Speaker 3: the good thing about it.

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Speaker 5: So this is how you're going to do it.

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Speaker 3: First of all, you you you know, you have to

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Speaker 3: consider the size of your tree. If it's a small one,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think yours is that big yet, is it?

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Speaker 2: No, it's not too big. It's probably uh it's probably

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Speaker 2: almost two meters high from eds.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, but you know, okay, well yeah, could be

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Speaker 3: she might need to help you out with carrying.

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Speaker 2: It then, bit I think she's going to help me out.

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Speaker 5: During sleepy time.

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01:15:55,653 --> 01:15:59,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, anyway, yeah yeah.

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01:15:59,053 --> 01:15:59,813
Speaker 5: No, but there you go.

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01:16:00,093 --> 01:16:02,693
Speaker 3: So the idea is basically you get first of all,

1502
01:16:02,733 --> 01:16:05,733
Speaker 3: get yourself a drenching spade. Check That is still one

1503
01:16:05,773 --> 01:16:08,253
Speaker 3: of my faith great ones. In the garden. There's a

1504
01:16:08,253 --> 01:16:10,533
Speaker 3: good space. You can go deep, you can go narrow,

1505
01:16:11,053 --> 01:16:15,653
Speaker 3: and it has an enormous if you like strength, if

1506
01:16:15,653 --> 01:16:17,973
Speaker 3: you lever it up, if you like.

1507
01:16:18,013 --> 01:16:20,933
Speaker 5: So long and narrow. There you go destination site.

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01:16:20,933 --> 01:16:22,573
Speaker 3: You make sure that your whole is going to be

1509
01:16:22,613 --> 01:16:24,693
Speaker 3: as big as the one that you get it out of.

1510
01:16:25,173 --> 01:16:28,853
Speaker 3: If not bigger, please because if you can make it bigger,

1511
01:16:29,293 --> 01:16:32,573
Speaker 3: you will get extra drainage away from the roots in

1512
01:16:32,613 --> 01:16:36,213
Speaker 3: the winter time. That is important to stop routots having

1513
01:16:36,213 --> 01:16:36,973
Speaker 3: a problem with you.

1514
01:16:37,613 --> 01:16:39,453
Speaker 5: Okay. The other thing is that if you have.

1515
01:16:39,493 --> 01:16:43,493
Speaker 3: A larger place to put your tree in a new site,

1516
01:16:43,733 --> 01:16:47,893
Speaker 3: you can also surround that with wonderful organic material, with

1517
01:16:48,053 --> 01:16:51,973
Speaker 3: nutritious stuff if you like friable, loose material, and that

1518
01:16:52,093 --> 01:16:54,813
Speaker 3: means that your plant will be very quick to reform

1519
01:16:54,853 --> 01:16:58,493
Speaker 3: itself in starting in spring to say this is a

1520
01:16:58,493 --> 01:17:00,053
Speaker 3: good place, I'm gonna grow bigger.

1521
01:17:00,093 --> 01:17:01,173
Speaker 5: Book, that's it.

1522
01:17:01,213 --> 01:17:04,173
Speaker 2: Nice yeah, and that's good.

1523
01:17:04,293 --> 01:17:07,453
Speaker 20: And then you go on no, you go yeah, well,

1524
01:17:07,493 --> 01:17:10,733
Speaker 20: all right, so you basically get when you want to

1525
01:17:10,773 --> 01:17:13,213
Speaker 20: actually get the tree out of the ground, make sure

1526
01:17:13,253 --> 01:17:15,373
Speaker 20: you get a big root ball, as big as you

1527
01:17:15,413 --> 01:17:18,133
Speaker 20: can or as big as you can carry out of

1528
01:17:18,293 --> 01:17:21,053
Speaker 20: the old side, so that you can move it and

1529
01:17:21,413 --> 01:17:24,533
Speaker 20: disturb as few roots as you can.

1530
01:17:25,133 --> 01:17:27,973
Speaker 3: And that's why it's important to have that size really

1531
01:17:29,213 --> 01:17:32,133
Speaker 3: and plant it now and do it and don't leave

1532
01:17:32,133 --> 01:17:34,853
Speaker 3: it on, you know, drying out before you actually plant.

1533
01:17:34,893 --> 01:17:36,333
Speaker 3: Do it not at the same time if you like,

1534
01:17:37,333 --> 01:17:40,893
Speaker 3: stake it. If it's a windy site, that's important. And

1535
01:17:40,973 --> 01:17:43,413
Speaker 3: then I usually put three or four inches of melch

1536
01:17:43,453 --> 01:17:46,133
Speaker 3: over the root zone and keep it all good until

1537
01:17:46,173 --> 01:17:49,053
Speaker 3: it becomes really spring and summer.

1538
01:17:49,173 --> 01:17:51,333
Speaker 2: Yeah right, just make sure it still has plenty of moisture.

1539
01:17:51,613 --> 01:17:54,413
Speaker 2: Is the absolute cape absolutely, Thank you sir. All right,

1540
01:17:54,413 --> 01:17:56,453
Speaker 2: we'll catch you again soon. Root climb pass in the

1541
01:17:56,493 --> 01:17:58,573
Speaker 2: garden for us, it is almost eleven o'clock. It is

1542
01:17:58,573 --> 01:18:01,413
Speaker 2: Saturday morning. You with Jack Tamon. This is news Talks.

1543
01:18:01,453 --> 01:18:01,813
Speaker 2: He'd be.

1544
01:18:05,413 --> 01:18:09,173
Speaker 1: Saturday mornings with Jack Tae keeping the conversation going through

1545
01:18:09,173 --> 01:18:12,093
Speaker 1: the weekend with Bpure Dot cot Dot ins Head for

1546
01:18:12,213 --> 01:18:14,133
Speaker 1: high quality supplements used talks.

1547
01:18:14,133 --> 01:18:39,093
Speaker 21: He'd ben't know if you're just surning on the radio,

1548
01:18:39,413 --> 01:18:41,373
Speaker 21: going to have you with us this morning, Jack Tame

1549
01:18:41,413 --> 01:18:42,213
Speaker 21: with you on news talks.

1550
01:18:42,213 --> 01:18:45,733
Speaker 2: He'd be through to midday today. So Mum said in

1551
01:18:45,773 --> 01:18:48,853
Speaker 2: the family chat that after about three and a half

1552
01:18:48,853 --> 01:18:52,253
Speaker 2: hours of heavy rain yesterday at her and Dad's place

1553
01:18:52,293 --> 01:18:54,173
Speaker 2: in Collingwood and Golden Bay, which is part of the

1554
01:18:54,253 --> 01:18:58,253
Speaker 2: Tasman region sort of the top top left corner of

1555
01:18:58,253 --> 01:19:00,333
Speaker 2: the South Island, the northwest corner of the South Island,

1556
01:19:00,413 --> 01:19:02,853
Speaker 2: just before free Well Spit and three and a half

1557
01:19:02,893 --> 01:19:05,413
Speaker 2: hours they had about forty two mills of rain, so

1558
01:19:05,573 --> 01:19:08,413
Speaker 2: more than a cent to meet an hour during the

1559
01:19:08,453 --> 01:19:13,133
Speaker 2: heavy rain yesterday. Fairly substantial damage. Not quite as serious

1560
01:19:13,133 --> 01:19:14,653
Speaker 2: as it might have been I suppose in some parts

1561
01:19:14,693 --> 01:19:18,013
Speaker 2: of Tasman, but fairly substantial damage. Nonetheless, there are some

1562
01:19:18,053 --> 01:19:21,093
Speaker 2: images on the news talks on the New Zealand Herald

1563
01:19:21,093 --> 01:19:25,693
Speaker 2: website of some of the damage around Tarkica other parts

1564
01:19:25,893 --> 01:19:28,893
Speaker 2: of Tasman as well, showing that roads that have been

1565
01:19:29,653 --> 01:19:31,413
Speaker 2: washed away, parts of roads that have been washed away,

1566
01:19:31,493 --> 01:19:33,693
Speaker 2: some slips in the region as well. I've got mates

1567
01:19:33,733 --> 01:19:36,533
Speaker 2: out west in Auckland as well, who reckon that the

1568
01:19:36,573 --> 01:19:39,813
Speaker 2: Henderson Stream is basically the highest it's ever been today.

1569
01:19:39,853 --> 01:19:42,693
Speaker 2: It's the highest they've ever seen. It is all of

1570
01:19:42,693 --> 01:19:45,813
Speaker 2: that rain water that hit the nine flushes down from

1571
01:19:45,853 --> 01:19:49,373
Speaker 2: the why TARGETI ranges. Parts of all Tuta of course

1572
01:19:49,493 --> 01:19:52,133
Speaker 2: reported flooding overnight, so I hope wherever you're waking up

1573
01:19:52,133 --> 01:19:55,613
Speaker 2: today things are dry. Certainly the conditions look like they're improving.

1574
01:19:55,653 --> 01:19:57,453
Speaker 2: But for the very latest you can go to the

1575
01:19:57,453 --> 01:20:01,053
Speaker 2: New Zealand Herald website or newstalks hedb dot co dot NZE.

1576
01:20:01,293 --> 01:20:03,613
Speaker 2: We've been talking soul of power all morning. It's yeah,

1577
01:20:03,693 --> 01:20:05,853
Speaker 2: one of those funny kind of days. I suppose the

1578
01:20:05,893 --> 01:20:08,933
Speaker 2: sun has been shining in lots of parts of the country,

1579
01:20:08,973 --> 01:20:11,933
Speaker 2: but given my electricity bills, or the bills at our

1580
01:20:11,973 --> 01:20:16,213
Speaker 2: place for electricity and gas, I think we're basically reaching

1581
01:20:16,213 --> 01:20:18,013
Speaker 2: the point where we're going to try and get some

1582
01:20:18,053 --> 01:20:21,053
Speaker 2: solar at our place. But there's a really good point, Steve,

1583
01:20:21,293 --> 01:20:23,333
Speaker 2: flip me a note to say, Jack. Since solar is

1584
01:20:23,373 --> 01:20:25,413
Speaker 2: the topic of the day, I've noticed that no one's

1585
01:20:25,413 --> 01:20:28,493
Speaker 2: really been mentioning the cost of materials and installation and

1586
01:20:28,533 --> 01:20:31,733
Speaker 2: when the actual return on investment comes about. That's obviously

1587
01:20:31,733 --> 01:20:34,253
Speaker 2: what you need to work out before making the jump.

1588
01:20:35,173 --> 01:20:37,293
Speaker 2: I worked it out and decided to hold off on

1589
01:20:37,413 --> 01:20:40,013
Speaker 2: solar just a little bit longer until things get cheaper,

1590
01:20:40,053 --> 01:20:42,333
Speaker 2: even though I would have liked to make the switch sooner.

1591
01:20:42,733 --> 01:20:44,973
Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve. That's a very good point. The good

1592
01:20:45,013 --> 01:20:48,453
Speaker 2: news is that there are a couple of calculators you

1593
01:20:48,493 --> 01:20:50,533
Speaker 2: can go to online, so I think I went to

1594
01:20:50,573 --> 01:20:54,413
Speaker 2: one called gen less, which I think is maybe run

1595
01:20:54,453 --> 01:20:57,973
Speaker 2: by the government. Gen less, dot govt dot z, mysolar quotes,

1596
01:20:58,013 --> 01:20:59,853
Speaker 2: dot co, dot m Z also lets you do it,

1597
01:20:59,893 --> 01:21:02,853
Speaker 2: but basically you can go on and put in your

1598
01:21:02,893 --> 01:21:05,853
Speaker 2: address and then it asks you a series of questions

1599
01:21:05,933 --> 01:21:07,813
Speaker 2: about you power bells, so how much you're bank for

1600
01:21:07,853 --> 01:21:10,253
Speaker 2: electricity at the moment. But it also asks about the

1601
01:21:10,293 --> 01:21:12,773
Speaker 2: positioning of your house and the orientation of your house,

1602
01:21:13,653 --> 01:21:16,773
Speaker 2: so which way the roof is facing, essentially the condition

1603
01:21:16,853 --> 01:21:18,453
Speaker 2: of your roof and that kind of thing, to try

1604
01:21:18,493 --> 01:21:21,773
Speaker 2: and work out exactly how much solar power you could

1605
01:21:21,813 --> 01:21:25,093
Speaker 2: generate on your roof, and then it'll work out how

1606
01:21:25,133 --> 01:21:28,573
Speaker 2: long it'll take from the capital costs of installing solar

1607
01:21:28,853 --> 01:21:31,893
Speaker 2: for you to make your money back, so it'll you know,

1608
01:21:31,933 --> 01:21:34,013
Speaker 2: and the whole series of factors. So at our place,

1609
01:21:34,013 --> 01:21:37,813
Speaker 2: for example, we have gas power for or gat, we

1610
01:21:37,933 --> 01:21:42,253
Speaker 2: use gas for hot water and for heating, so we

1611
01:21:42,293 --> 01:21:44,813
Speaker 2: would make our money back a whole lot slower than

1612
01:21:44,853 --> 01:21:48,013
Speaker 2: other people would, although honestly, doing the equations overnight, I

1613
01:21:48,093 --> 01:21:51,053
Speaker 2: still think I still think we'd probably make our money

1614
01:21:51,093 --> 01:21:54,533
Speaker 2: back in like probably seven or eight years, given the

1615
01:21:54,613 --> 01:21:56,013
Speaker 2: cost of things at the moment. So there you go,

1616
01:21:56,213 --> 01:21:59,293
Speaker 2: gen less dot dot GOVT dot NZ if you're looking

1617
01:21:59,333 --> 01:22:01,973
Speaker 2: for that calculator right now. It is ten past eleven,

1618
01:22:02,293 --> 01:22:04,773
Speaker 2: Jack Tatum. In the middle of July. We usually think

1619
01:22:04,813 --> 01:22:08,093
Speaker 2: of July as being by July, but it also it's

1620
01:22:08,133 --> 01:22:11,613
Speaker 2: also Plastic Free July, and it's almost fifteen years since

1621
01:22:11,653 --> 01:22:15,613
Speaker 2: Plastic Free July was first launched. Rebecca Princeruez is the

1622
01:22:15,693 --> 01:22:18,613
Speaker 2: founder and executive director of Plastic Free July, and she's

1623
01:22:18,613 --> 01:22:20,733
Speaker 2: with us we're almost halfway through the month to talk

1624
01:22:20,733 --> 01:22:23,053
Speaker 2: a little bit about how Plastic Free July is going

1625
01:22:23,053 --> 01:22:25,293
Speaker 2: this year. Good a Rebecca, and welcome to the show.

1626
01:22:26,533 --> 01:22:27,373
Speaker 22: Good morning, Cyota.

1627
01:22:27,613 --> 01:22:29,173
Speaker 2: Nice to be speaking with you. So can you just

1628
01:22:29,253 --> 01:22:32,893
Speaker 2: explain exactly what plastic Free July actually is.

1629
01:22:34,253 --> 01:22:39,133
Speaker 22: Well, Plastic Free July is a moment to look at

1630
01:22:39,173 --> 01:22:42,813
Speaker 22: the plastics in our lives. It's not actually about being

1631
01:22:42,853 --> 01:22:45,373
Speaker 22: plastic free. That's impossible. I wouldn't be talking to you

1632
01:22:45,413 --> 01:22:47,773
Speaker 22: on the phone now if I was.

1633
01:22:49,253 --> 01:22:50,853
Speaker 2: Plus one plastic free.

1634
01:22:50,973 --> 01:22:55,333
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's just about choosing one or two

1635
01:22:55,373 --> 01:22:57,893
Speaker 22: of the single use plastics, the items we use just

1636
01:22:57,893 --> 01:23:00,133
Speaker 22: for a few seconds or a minute, a few minutes

1637
01:23:00,173 --> 01:23:04,293
Speaker 22: and throw them away and finding alternatives. So like, you know,

1638
01:23:04,733 --> 01:23:10,493
Speaker 22: choosing you remembering reusable coffee cup or refilling your water bottle,

1639
01:23:10,573 --> 01:23:14,773
Speaker 22: or switching from liquid soaps to a bar soap. And

1640
01:23:14,813 --> 01:23:18,173
Speaker 22: it's about, like I said, it's about not about being perfect.

1641
01:23:18,253 --> 01:23:22,213
Speaker 22: It's about lots of people making small changes which together

1642
01:23:22,253 --> 01:23:23,733
Speaker 22: adds up to a big difference.

1643
01:23:23,973 --> 01:23:26,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good point. I haven't thought about

1644
01:23:26,093 --> 01:23:28,573
Speaker 2: the soap one before. That's an obvious one. I use

1645
01:23:28,613 --> 01:23:30,333
Speaker 2: bar soap because I just think it I feel like

1646
01:23:30,373 --> 01:23:33,533
Speaker 2: it works better. But that's quite a simple one. So

1647
01:23:33,573 --> 01:23:35,813
Speaker 2: what are some of the other simple ways that people

1648
01:23:35,853 --> 01:23:39,053
Speaker 2: could could like reduce plastic use in their lives.

1649
01:23:39,973 --> 01:23:42,693
Speaker 22: Oh, look, there's so many ways that millions of people

1650
01:23:42,733 --> 01:23:46,333
Speaker 22: around the world are reducing their plastic waste at the

1651
01:23:46,373 --> 01:23:49,773
Speaker 22: moment in you know, in Alt Throw and New Zealand,

1652
01:23:49,813 --> 01:23:54,733
Speaker 22: plastic bags have been banned. In other countries, people might

1653
01:23:54,813 --> 01:24:01,093
Speaker 22: be focusing on the bags, skipping straws things that we've banned,

1654
01:24:01,173 --> 01:24:08,253
Speaker 22: or taking reusable produce bags, cutting down on plastic food

1655
01:24:08,293 --> 01:24:13,213
Speaker 22: wrap in the kitchen, storing food in containers or putting

1656
01:24:13,253 --> 01:24:17,093
Speaker 22: a plate on top of a bowl, or using wax

1657
01:24:17,133 --> 01:24:22,413
Speaker 22: wraps in the kitchen. A lot of people are trying out,

1658
01:24:22,453 --> 01:24:27,893
Speaker 22: and there's been some great workshops in New Zealand over

1659
01:24:27,933 --> 01:24:31,733
Speaker 22: this month of how to make your own body scrub

1660
01:24:31,973 --> 01:24:36,573
Speaker 22: or deodorant or cleaning instead of having fifteen different plastic

1661
01:24:36,573 --> 01:24:39,653
Speaker 22: bottles of cleaning products in our kitchens and our laundries,

1662
01:24:40,173 --> 01:24:46,573
Speaker 22: just using things like bi carb and vinegar or lemons

1663
01:24:46,693 --> 01:24:49,573
Speaker 22: that we can use the same materials that you can

1664
01:24:49,613 --> 01:24:56,973
Speaker 22: often get refilled and use those instead. It's an opportunity,

1665
01:24:57,013 --> 01:24:58,893
Speaker 22: I think, first of all, to make new habits. Like

1666
01:24:58,933 --> 01:25:02,813
Speaker 22: we all you know, we all have a reusable coffee cup.

1667
01:25:03,853 --> 01:25:06,653
Speaker 22: Many of us have five or six of those. They're

1668
01:25:06,653 --> 01:25:09,973
Speaker 22: not reusable if you've left them at home in the cupboard.

1669
01:25:10,013 --> 01:25:14,093
Speaker 22: And even those paper cups normally lined with plastic or

1670
01:25:14,253 --> 01:25:17,373
Speaker 22: have plastic lids and they end up in our landfill,

1671
01:25:17,693 --> 01:25:20,613
Speaker 22: hopefully not as litter. But these are all just simple

1672
01:25:20,733 --> 01:25:24,013
Speaker 22: changes that we can make and we know it makes

1673
01:25:24,053 --> 01:25:26,573
Speaker 22: a difference. So last year, one hundred and seventy four

1674
01:25:26,613 --> 01:25:31,613
Speaker 22: million people took part in Plastic Free July and together

1675
01:25:31,693 --> 01:25:36,493
Speaker 22: avoided three hundred and ninety million kilos of plastic waists.

1676
01:25:38,093 --> 01:25:41,453
Speaker 22: But you know the solutions, We always say like do

1677
01:25:41,533 --> 01:25:43,853
Speaker 22: what you can with what you have where you are,

1678
01:25:43,893 --> 01:25:46,613
Speaker 22: because you know, some people are very fortunate they can

1679
01:25:46,653 --> 01:25:50,933
Speaker 22: buy a lot of their household products and foods in bulk,

1680
01:25:50,973 --> 01:25:57,373
Speaker 22: whereas others don't have either those stores available or un

1681
01:25:57,453 --> 01:25:59,653
Speaker 22: in a position to do it. So we say like,

1682
01:25:59,693 --> 01:26:03,933
Speaker 22: look in your pantry, look in your fridge, look in

1683
01:26:03,973 --> 01:26:07,133
Speaker 22: your bins, see what you can, see what you're using,

1684
01:26:07,213 --> 01:26:09,453
Speaker 22: and then have a think about what you can avoid.

1685
01:26:09,533 --> 01:26:13,173
Speaker 22: And we share lots of ideas on our website and

1686
01:26:13,293 --> 01:26:15,933
Speaker 22: socials of what people are doing around the world.

1687
01:26:15,773 --> 01:26:17,773
Speaker 2: So people can go to website by going to Plastic

1688
01:26:17,853 --> 01:26:22,093
Speaker 2: Free July dot org dot org Robigga. Do you feel

1689
01:26:22,093 --> 01:26:27,573
Speaker 2: like we're sort of like the plastic free movement is

1690
01:26:28,253 --> 01:26:30,893
Speaker 2: gaining a bit of momentum at the moment that people

1691
01:26:31,053 --> 01:26:33,693
Speaker 2: you know that people are kind of more into trying

1692
01:26:33,693 --> 01:26:35,293
Speaker 2: to reduce the amount of plastic in their.

1693
01:26:35,213 --> 01:26:40,013
Speaker 22: Lives, oh, one hundred percent. And it's not just plastic,

1694
01:26:40,133 --> 01:26:43,053
Speaker 22: like we also know, you know, when we're starting to

1695
01:26:43,213 --> 01:26:45,693
Speaker 22: people starting to try and reduce their plastic, which is

1696
01:26:45,693 --> 01:26:50,173
Speaker 22: often the first step, it's also about reducing overall waste.

1697
01:26:50,373 --> 01:26:53,533
Speaker 22: So you know, instead of you need one avocado, you

1698
01:26:53,573 --> 01:26:58,173
Speaker 22: go to the store, it's cheaper to buy four, which

1699
01:26:58,213 --> 01:27:00,493
Speaker 22: is very frustrating when it's cheaper to buy four and

1700
01:27:00,573 --> 01:27:03,613
Speaker 22: a plastic tray with plastic wrap. But if you only

1701
01:27:03,613 --> 01:27:07,973
Speaker 22: needed one, chances are that the other four might you know,

1702
01:27:08,133 --> 01:27:12,853
Speaker 22: go to waste. So there's that kind of parallel impact.

1703
01:27:12,933 --> 01:27:17,453
Speaker 22: But we also like encourage people and share ideas, and

1704
01:27:17,493 --> 01:27:20,853
Speaker 22: the comunity is doing things like you know, menu planning

1705
01:27:20,933 --> 01:27:25,653
Speaker 22: from their fridge, using up leftovers, making a stock from

1706
01:27:25,853 --> 01:27:28,533
Speaker 22: the veggies you didn't manage to finish up last week,

1707
01:27:28,573 --> 01:27:31,533
Speaker 22: and love food, hate waste. It's got some great ideas

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Speaker 22: about you know, using leftovers, and it's you know, I

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Speaker 22: think plastic is almost the entry point. And when I

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01:27:39,653 --> 01:27:43,093
Speaker 22: started this fifteen years ago, single use wasn't even a term,

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Speaker 22: and now there's so much momentum and so many stories

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Speaker 22: of course we've got to go. There's a lot more

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01:27:49,893 --> 01:27:54,053
Speaker 22: that we can do, but you know, we have to

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Speaker 22: tackle this problem. Like we're coming to the point where

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Speaker 22: even even our clothes, which much of them are made

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Speaker 22: of plastics, with fast fashion, they're becoming single use, and

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01:28:04,293 --> 01:28:07,893
Speaker 22: so many of our household items. So it's about it's

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01:28:07,893 --> 01:28:14,813
Speaker 22: about finding alternatives, it's about being more mindful about reducing

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01:28:14,973 --> 01:28:19,413
Speaker 22: our waste, reducing our footprint because the less we the

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01:28:19,453 --> 01:28:23,293
Speaker 22: more that we can reduce and reuse and repair, the

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01:28:23,293 --> 01:28:25,933
Speaker 22: more of an impact we're going to have, and the

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01:28:26,013 --> 01:28:30,333
Speaker 22: less resources that we use, and the more that we

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01:28:30,413 --> 01:28:34,973
Speaker 22: are mindful, the less overall resources are being extracted and

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Speaker 22: used and consumed right across the life cycle of these products.

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Speaker 2: Well it sounds great. Thank you so much, Rebecca. We

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01:28:42,373 --> 01:28:45,093
Speaker 2: really appreciate your time this morning. Rebecca print Thrueaz as

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Speaker 2: the founder and executive director of Plastic Free July. You

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Speaker 2: can see more information at Plastic Free July dot org.

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Speaker 1: Travel with Windy wootours where the world is yours for now.

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Speaker 2: Mike Hadley is our travel correspondent. He's focusing on Stone,

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01:29:00,213 --> 01:29:02,413
Speaker 2: Hinge and Bath in the UK today.

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Speaker 23: Hi Mike, Good morning Jack.

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01:29:04,693 --> 01:29:07,173
Speaker 2: So if you are planning a UK trip, do you

1734
01:29:07,173 --> 01:29:09,693
Speaker 2: reckon Stone Hinge is worth the visit ors a little bit,

1735
01:29:09,773 --> 01:29:10,973
Speaker 2: you know, underwhelming?

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01:29:12,373 --> 01:29:15,333
Speaker 23: Well, previously I found it a real down there, and

1737
01:29:15,373 --> 01:29:17,613
Speaker 23: the reason for that was in the past used to

1738
01:29:17,693 --> 01:29:22,253
Speaker 23: be all of this rather constant road traffic clattering right

1739
01:29:22,413 --> 01:29:26,653
Speaker 23: past the antiquity on the Soul's pre plane, and I

1740
01:29:26,693 --> 01:29:30,453
Speaker 23: think people just thought this is real bad. So thankfully

1741
01:29:30,493 --> 01:29:33,773
Speaker 23: that section of road has been rerooted. So now when

1742
01:29:33,773 --> 01:29:37,093
Speaker 23: you go to Stonehenge you actually have to walk to

1743
01:29:37,213 --> 01:29:40,613
Speaker 23: the monument across these fields. And it's so good because

1744
01:29:41,013 --> 01:29:44,133
Speaker 23: Stone Hinge feels like it's been liberated, and you found

1745
01:29:44,173 --> 01:29:47,733
Speaker 23: sense of solitudes so much better. And I've done a

1746
01:29:47,853 --> 01:29:51,573
Speaker 23: really good job in recent years with the makeover to

1747
01:29:51,613 --> 01:29:54,693
Speaker 23: the visitor center. So they've now got this awesome gallery

1748
01:29:54,733 --> 01:29:58,053
Speaker 23: which does a really good job showcasing the life and

1749
01:29:58,093 --> 01:30:01,493
Speaker 23: times of the Druids who built the stone Circle. Yeah,

1750
01:30:01,693 --> 01:30:04,893
Speaker 23: about four thousand years ago. I only found out there recently,

1751
01:30:05,013 --> 01:30:07,973
Speaker 23: jacked that the Druids they were only second to the

1752
01:30:08,133 --> 01:30:11,333
Speaker 23: King and Queen, you know, in terms of important and

1753
01:30:11,453 --> 01:30:16,933
Speaker 23: Celtic life. Yeah, they were so hugely regarded and yeah,

1754
01:30:16,933 --> 01:30:20,093
Speaker 23: you were just learning so much about Neolithic Britain at

1755
01:30:20,093 --> 01:30:22,333
Speaker 23: this visitor center, so definitely worth a stop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great, Okay, cool. I've never been to Stonehenge, but

1757
01:30:24,773 --> 01:30:26,693
Speaker 2: I did sometimes wonder if it was a bit sort

1758
01:30:26,693 --> 01:30:29,293
Speaker 2: of you know, yeah, there's a bit underwhelming, but that

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01:30:29,333 --> 01:30:31,693
Speaker 2: sounds great. With the visitors center, it sounds amazing. So

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01:30:31,893 --> 01:30:35,613
Speaker 2: just what half an hour away is is Bath? So

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01:30:35,733 --> 01:30:39,013
Speaker 2: what do you think is Bath's great calling card?

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01:30:39,933 --> 01:30:42,773
Speaker 23: I adore Bath, Jack, and I think it's the architecture

1763
01:30:42,813 --> 01:30:47,173
Speaker 23: that really stands out. Everything is just so semetrical, you know,

1764
01:30:47,293 --> 01:30:51,893
Speaker 23: so Georgian, so regency, and it's all crafted from that

1765
01:30:51,973 --> 01:30:56,693
Speaker 23: honey colored limestone. Then you've got those staggering ancient Roman

1766
01:30:56,893 --> 01:31:01,453
Speaker 23: baths which tapped into Britain's only thermal hot springs. But

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01:31:01,533 --> 01:31:03,933
Speaker 23: I've always thought a really good test for a city's

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01:31:04,053 --> 01:31:07,973
Speaker 23: grandeur when they tout they have endure, is how well

1769
01:31:08,013 --> 01:31:11,373
Speaker 23: does your city look under gray skies? And this is

1770
01:31:11,413 --> 01:31:14,533
Speaker 23: Britain after all, but I can say that Bath passes

1771
01:31:14,573 --> 01:31:17,533
Speaker 23: the rain test and flying colors. It is a showstopper

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01:31:17,893 --> 01:31:18,893
Speaker 23: in all weathers.

1773
01:31:19,293 --> 01:31:21,773
Speaker 2: Nice are there are essential sort of landmarks that you

1774
01:31:21,773 --> 01:31:22,613
Speaker 2: should be ticking.

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01:31:22,413 --> 01:31:27,293
Speaker 23: Off well for architectural nerds, like me. I think the

1776
01:31:27,333 --> 01:31:30,333
Speaker 23: Circus and the Royal Crescent are the top two. They

1777
01:31:30,333 --> 01:31:33,333
Speaker 23: are just marked pieces of urban living, you know, from

1778
01:31:33,373 --> 01:31:37,013
Speaker 23: a couple of hundred years ago, all of those symmetrical curves,

1779
01:31:37,173 --> 01:31:41,293
Speaker 23: multi story stone buildings, they're just so beautiful. Interestingly, the

1780
01:31:41,333 --> 01:31:44,933
Speaker 23: Circus check it was actually inspired by Stonehenge and the

1781
01:31:45,013 --> 01:31:48,653
Speaker 23: Sun's movements, so that is what sort of dictated the

1782
01:31:48,693 --> 01:31:51,773
Speaker 23: design of the Circus. And then there's all sorts of

1783
01:31:51,813 --> 01:31:57,093
Speaker 23: other interesting curios like Pulteney Bridge, this big grand stone

1784
01:31:57,133 --> 01:32:03,093
Speaker 23: structure which was actually inspired by Florence's Pontebecchio with all

1785
01:32:03,093 --> 01:32:07,373
Speaker 23: of the shops incorporated into it. And if you've seen

1786
01:32:07,453 --> 01:32:09,973
Speaker 23: Russell Crowe's Le Mis film from about a decade ago,

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01:32:10,573 --> 01:32:15,533
Speaker 23: that that actually featured in miz depicting Paris, which is

1788
01:32:15,573 --> 01:32:19,653
Speaker 23: a bit out there. But what really intrigued me when

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01:32:19,653 --> 01:32:22,493
Speaker 23: I was in Bath just a few weeks ago. The

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01:32:22,533 --> 01:32:26,453
Speaker 23: city has become such a hit with set chasers. We've

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01:32:26,453 --> 01:32:29,573
Speaker 23: talked about set jesting in the past, and Bath is

1792
01:32:29,773 --> 01:32:32,093
Speaker 23: absolutely on that map. And I tell you one thing

1793
01:32:32,133 --> 01:32:37,013
Speaker 23: that's really fueled that recently Bridgeton, because so much of

1794
01:32:37,173 --> 01:32:39,013
Speaker 23: Bridgeton is shot in Bath.

1795
01:32:39,213 --> 01:32:41,653
Speaker 2: Ah. Oh, that's so good. Do you know I interviewed

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01:32:41,733 --> 01:32:45,013
Speaker 2: Russell Crowe when he when he released that film, So yes,

1797
01:32:45,093 --> 01:32:49,493
Speaker 2: I remember that Hands of Time so well, as well

1798
01:32:49,493 --> 01:32:53,133
Speaker 2: as Russell Crowe and Lamer's fans. Jane Austen fans swoon

1799
01:32:53,173 --> 01:32:55,173
Speaker 2: over my goodness. So what can you do with your

1800
01:32:55,253 --> 01:32:55,973
Speaker 2: Jane Auston fan?

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01:32:56,773 --> 01:32:59,933
Speaker 23: Yeah, her footprints are everywhere, but the Jane Auston Center

1802
01:33:00,053 --> 01:33:04,013
Speaker 23: is the big drawer, very much telling the story of

1803
01:33:04,053 --> 01:33:08,133
Speaker 23: how Bath shaped her life and who writing. The center

1804
01:33:08,333 --> 01:33:12,493
Speaker 23: is just so well put together, lots of authentic period

1805
01:33:12,533 --> 01:33:16,013
Speaker 23: exhibits and lots of costumed Mennicans. And the reason I

1806
01:33:16,133 --> 01:33:20,133
Speaker 23: mentioned that is because I thought they were mannequins, but

1807
01:33:20,173 --> 01:33:24,933
Speaker 23: they suddenly spring to life as real people. So they've

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01:33:24,973 --> 01:33:27,893
Speaker 23: got some really good little theatrical touches in that center,

1809
01:33:27,973 --> 01:33:32,213
Speaker 23: and these menequans come real people offer some really good

1810
01:33:32,253 --> 01:33:36,773
Speaker 23: pithy anecdotes as you head around the center. Yeah, definitely

1811
01:33:36,773 --> 01:33:37,613
Speaker 23: worth checking it out.

1812
01:33:37,693 --> 01:33:40,213
Speaker 2: Yeah nice. And Jane Austin is not the only major

1813
01:33:40,253 --> 01:33:43,613
Speaker 2: literary figure with a museum in barn No.

1814
01:33:44,013 --> 01:33:47,533
Speaker 23: Also on the literary trail just down the street Mary

1815
01:33:47,653 --> 01:33:52,133
Speaker 23: Shelley's House of Frankenstein. And this is I have to say,

1816
01:33:52,173 --> 01:33:56,133
Speaker 23: more of an entertainment experience than a museum. So you've

1817
01:33:56,173 --> 01:34:00,533
Speaker 23: got the likes of an eight foot automaton of Frankenstein,

1818
01:34:01,373 --> 01:34:05,093
Speaker 23: who are beautiful monster. There lots of electric shock displays,

1819
01:34:05,133 --> 01:34:09,053
Speaker 23: which is kind of cool, but it also unpacked Shelley's

1820
01:34:09,053 --> 01:34:11,493
Speaker 23: life and times in Bath. One of the most amazing

1821
01:34:11,533 --> 01:34:15,773
Speaker 23: things jack known to Shelley back in the day. She

1822
01:34:16,053 --> 01:34:20,173
Speaker 23: was practically living on top of the Roman baths and

1823
01:34:20,253 --> 01:34:25,013
Speaker 23: they big gates and they were only discovered about sixty

1824
01:34:25,133 --> 01:34:28,773
Speaker 23: years after she left, So she was a little of this

1825
01:34:29,413 --> 01:34:31,653
Speaker 23: amazing antiquity and no one knew.

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01:34:31,853 --> 01:34:34,773
Speaker 2: Is that amazing? Yeah? So was it? What like they're

1827
01:34:34,773 --> 01:34:36,493
Speaker 2: built on top of it or had been covered with

1828
01:34:36,693 --> 01:34:38,813
Speaker 2: the sort of ground Yeah, okay.

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01:34:38,853 --> 01:34:42,013
Speaker 23: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, just layers, you know, layers of civilized

1830
01:34:42,053 --> 01:34:43,093
Speaker 23: over that happens.

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01:34:43,253 --> 01:34:46,013
Speaker 2: It's crazy to me that would happen. But anyway, so

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01:34:46,733 --> 01:34:48,533
Speaker 2: Bath got really good buns, doesn't.

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01:34:48,253 --> 01:34:50,653
Speaker 23: It very good?

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01:34:50,973 --> 01:34:51,213
Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 23: So for starters, there's Sally Lungs buns, which you will

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01:34:55,573 --> 01:34:58,933
Speaker 23: find in Barb's oldest house. It's like from the fourteen

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01:34:59,013 --> 01:35:02,373
Speaker 23: hundreds of this house. And Sally was a French refugee.

1838
01:35:02,413 --> 01:35:05,613
Speaker 23: She established her bakery here about four hundred years ago

1839
01:35:05,733 --> 01:35:08,293
Speaker 23: and it's still same site that operates today as the

1840
01:35:08,333 --> 01:35:15,653
Speaker 23: bakery with these enormous, delicate, semi sweet buns obviously best

1841
01:35:15,773 --> 01:35:17,453
Speaker 23: washed down with the pot of tea, but they have

1842
01:35:17,613 --> 01:35:22,893
Speaker 23: this quite unique bready n cakey texture that's supersized. So

1843
01:35:23,333 --> 01:35:25,493
Speaker 23: they will serve them in the habs and then you

1844
01:35:25,533 --> 01:35:29,213
Speaker 23: can choose a topping to slather on them. But I

1845
01:35:29,253 --> 01:35:33,013
Speaker 23: would definitely recommend the cinnamon butter. Oh my goodness, that

1846
01:35:33,173 --> 01:35:33,653
Speaker 23: is so good.

1847
01:35:33,733 --> 01:35:36,613
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Okay, how does it differ from the bath bun?

1848
01:35:37,653 --> 01:35:41,493
Speaker 23: I know this becomes quite an academic exercise to explore

1849
01:35:41,533 --> 01:35:45,213
Speaker 23: these buns deck But the bath bun interesting story. It's

1850
01:35:45,253 --> 01:35:48,733
Speaker 23: just around the corner from Selly Lums there's the bath

1851
01:35:48,893 --> 01:35:51,013
Speaker 23: bun Tee shop and this is the place to go

1852
01:35:51,093 --> 01:35:54,293
Speaker 23: for the bath bun. So this is a smaller and

1853
01:35:54,413 --> 01:35:58,933
Speaker 23: sweeter bun than Selly's. Lots of currants. They put crushed

1854
01:35:59,213 --> 01:36:03,533
Speaker 23: sugar cubes on top of it. And the bath bun

1855
01:36:03,733 --> 01:36:07,973
Speaker 23: was actually created by an eighteenth century doctor called William Oliver.

1856
01:36:08,533 --> 01:36:11,413
Speaker 23: But his bones became so popular with his patients have

1857
01:36:11,533 --> 01:36:14,813
Speaker 23: proved to be the undoing. So then William Oliver moved

1858
01:36:14,813 --> 01:36:19,693
Speaker 23: into the biscuit trade. But all the moderation jacket's a

1859
01:36:19,733 --> 01:36:20,093
Speaker 23: good thing.

1860
01:36:20,173 --> 01:36:21,813
Speaker 15: Those buns and Bath, yeah they.

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Speaker 2: Sound very tasty. Indeed, all right, thank you so much, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I've never been to Bath. I would absolutely love to

1863
01:36:26,293 --> 01:36:29,093
Speaker 2: because Bristol is just up the road, isn't it so yeah,

1864
01:36:29,173 --> 01:36:33,053
Speaker 2: now sort out the western side of the aisle. Yeah, no,

1865
01:36:33,173 --> 01:36:35,013
Speaker 2: I would absolutely love to go. So those are really

1866
01:36:35,093 --> 01:36:37,373
Speaker 2: useful tips. Thank you. We'll make sure all of Mike's

1867
01:36:37,373 --> 01:36:41,613
Speaker 2: advice for exploring Bath and Stonehenge are up on the

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1884
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Speaker 2: for the countdown to the All Blacks second Test this

1885
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Speaker 2: evening when he joins us in a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekend started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 5: B Yes, but you want to do.

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Speaker 2: I'm not embarrassed to say there's a bit of a jam,

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Speaker 2: at least in my opinion. This is justin Bieber. What

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Speaker 2: do you mean, It's been years since he this though

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Speaker 2: he's got a brand new album, though dropped overnight. It

1893
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Speaker 2: also happens at once with little warning. Anyway, that's what

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Speaker 2: happened with Swag. So we're gonna have a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a listen to a couple of songs from Swag.

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Speaker 2: Our music reviewer has listened to the album since it

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Speaker 2: her thoughts on it in a few minutes time. He's

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Speaker 2: sort of going through a bit of an interesting period

1905
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Speaker 2: justin Beaver, so it'll be interesting to see what that

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Speaker 2: album sounds like right now though, twenty eight minutes to

1907
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Speaker 2: twelve on News Talks, he'd be Jason Pine is counting

1908
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Speaker 2: down the hours live from Shed twenty two and Wellington

1909
01:38:48,813 --> 01:38:51,893
Speaker 2: for the All Backs second Test this evening against the French.

1910
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Speaker 2: Hay Piney good, I.

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Speaker 24: Jack, Yes, I can tell you that the city is

1912
01:38:56,013 --> 01:38:58,933
Speaker 24: ready for All Blacks Rugby tonight at skys Stadium. It's

1913
01:38:58,933 --> 01:39:01,453
Speaker 24: been a bit inclement weather wise this week, but as

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Speaker 24: we come to you from Shed twenty two on the Waterfront,

1915
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Speaker 24: the sun's out and we're looking forward to the even.

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Speaker 2: Very good Conrad Smith on the show this afternoon.

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Speaker 24: Pony Yeah, our greatest test center in the eyes of many,

1918
01:39:12,213 --> 01:39:14,773
Speaker 24: certainly our most capped All Blacks test center.

1919
01:39:14,893 --> 01:39:16,613
Speaker 15: Conrad Smith going to lead us off. It's a bit

1920
01:39:16,653 --> 01:39:17,453
Speaker 15: of a it's.

1921
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Speaker 24: A bit of a Wellington themed show, as you'd expect

1922
01:39:20,133 --> 01:39:22,933
Speaker 24: coming from here Jack another double World Cup win of Victor.

1923
01:39:23,013 --> 01:39:23,893
Speaker 15: Victor was on the show.

1924
01:39:23,973 --> 01:39:27,053
Speaker 24: Dane Cole's said he'll pop into Shed twenty two if

1925
01:39:27,053 --> 01:39:27,413
Speaker 24: there's a.

1926
01:39:27,333 --> 01:39:27,973
Speaker 15: Free drink going.

1927
01:39:28,013 --> 01:39:29,333
Speaker 24: No, he said he didn't even need a free drink

1928
01:39:29,373 --> 01:39:31,573
Speaker 24: and come anyway, Brad Shield's going to pop down and

1929
01:39:31,893 --> 01:39:33,413
Speaker 24: look all welcome.

1930
01:39:33,493 --> 01:39:36,373
Speaker 15: Really already it's starting to fizz here.

1931
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Speaker 24: The place opened at eleven and there were already some

1932
01:39:39,413 --> 01:39:42,333
Speaker 24: hungry and thirsty people. So yeah, looking forward to to

1933
01:39:42,333 --> 01:39:43,453
Speaker 24: what the afternoon.

1934
01:39:43,013 --> 01:39:44,933
Speaker 2: Brings and what are you picking for this evening, pony.

1935
01:39:45,293 --> 01:39:48,453
Speaker 2: An improved performance on last week, certainly, I think we'd

1936
01:39:48,493 --> 01:39:50,773
Speaker 2: all hope to see. But a lot of changes in

1937
01:39:50,773 --> 01:39:51,573
Speaker 2: that French lineup.

1938
01:39:51,813 --> 01:39:53,533
Speaker 24: Indeed, Yeah, you took the words out of my mouth

1939
01:39:53,533 --> 01:39:55,453
Speaker 24: through and I think we all want improvement and we

1940
01:39:55,533 --> 01:39:57,213
Speaker 24: all accept and I think I might have even said

1941
01:39:57,213 --> 01:39:59,093
Speaker 24: it to you last weekend. The All Blacks are never

1942
01:39:59,133 --> 01:40:01,773
Speaker 24: perfect and Test one of the year, it just doesn't happen.

1943
01:40:02,373 --> 01:40:02,573
Speaker 7: You know.

1944
01:40:02,653 --> 01:40:05,173
Speaker 24: They got the win and they were I guess satisfied

1945
01:40:05,213 --> 01:40:07,493
Speaker 24: with that, but lots to work and as you say,

1946
01:40:07,733 --> 01:40:10,253
Speaker 24: the French have made a number of changes. So four

1947
01:40:10,813 --> 01:40:14,213
Speaker 24: debutants again after eight last week. The All Blacks have

1948
01:40:14,213 --> 01:40:16,493
Speaker 24: had to scramble a bit this week with the injuries

1949
01:40:16,493 --> 01:40:20,253
Speaker 24: to Scott Barrett, to Sever Reese of course, and also

1950
01:40:20,533 --> 01:40:23,733
Speaker 24: yesterday to Caleb Clark. So certainly not the fifteen. I'm

1951
01:40:23,733 --> 01:40:25,733
Speaker 24: sure that they would have been planning to put out

1952
01:40:25,933 --> 01:40:28,213
Speaker 24: if we've been chatting before the first Test last weekend.

1953
01:40:28,293 --> 01:40:31,413
Speaker 24: But here we are, next man up mentality and chances

1954
01:40:31,453 --> 01:40:34,013
Speaker 24: for the likes of Himoni Nadawa to come into just

1955
01:40:34,053 --> 01:40:35,413
Speaker 24: his third Test match.

1956
01:40:35,573 --> 01:40:37,653
Speaker 15: Patrick tweep a lot too. We know what he can do.

1957
01:40:37,693 --> 01:40:40,133
Speaker 24: He's into the second row, and Ardie Savie will lead

1958
01:40:40,173 --> 01:40:42,173
Speaker 24: the side, so I don't think you lose a lot

1959
01:40:42,213 --> 01:40:43,533
Speaker 24: when he's the man leading you out.

1960
01:40:43,613 --> 01:40:45,053
Speaker 15: So yeah, it's hope for.

1961
01:40:45,853 --> 01:40:48,853
Speaker 24: I guess a more cohesive performance, probably a little bit

1962
01:40:49,693 --> 01:40:51,853
Speaker 24: more solid in those aerial battles.

1963
01:40:52,253 --> 01:40:54,533
Speaker 15: And yeah, and maybe I think defensively too.

1964
01:40:54,533 --> 01:40:57,173
Speaker 24: If you lead twenty seven points, you probably look at

1965
01:40:57,173 --> 01:40:59,013
Speaker 24: your defense and say we should do better.

1966
01:40:59,093 --> 01:41:00,773
Speaker 2: Yeah too, Right, all right, look forward to the show

1967
01:41:00,853 --> 01:41:03,333
Speaker 2: this afternoon and enjoy being there at Shed twenty two

1968
01:41:03,453 --> 01:41:07,613
Speaker 2: like you. No problem with that, Jacobs, Yeah, good man,

1969
01:41:07,653 --> 01:41:09,853
Speaker 2: we'll catch you very sir, Jason. Fine, we'll have weekends

1970
01:41:09,933 --> 01:41:13,013
Speaker 2: thought this afternoon from right after the midday news, Conrad

1971
01:41:13,053 --> 01:41:15,133
Speaker 2: Smith leading things off as they count down to the

1972
01:41:15,173 --> 01:41:17,373
Speaker 2: second Allbeckx test of course news talks. He'db is gonna

1973
01:41:17,373 --> 01:41:20,093
Speaker 2: have live coverage of the game tonight. The build up

1974
01:41:20,133 --> 01:41:23,133
Speaker 2: begins just after six o'clock. This evening kickoff is just

1975
01:41:23,213 --> 01:41:24,773
Speaker 2: after seven. And if you want to listen to the

1976
01:41:24,813 --> 01:41:26,773
Speaker 2: Black Ferns, of course, it's a double header at the

1977
01:41:26,773 --> 01:41:29,013
Speaker 2: Caked In this evening. Hest of the Black Ferns on

1978
01:41:29,093 --> 01:41:32,293
Speaker 2: gold Sport this afternoon as well before midday that new

1979
01:41:32,373 --> 01:41:34,853
Speaker 2: music from Justin Bieber. Next up, your book picks for

1980
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Speaker 2: this weekend twenty five to twelve on Newstalks EDB.

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01:41:38,693 --> 01:41:42,933
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

1982
01:41:43,213 --> 01:41:44,613
Speaker 1: powered by Newstalks EDB.

1983
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Speaker 2: Twenty two to twelve on Newstalks EDBE. Katherine Rains is

1984
01:41:48,573 --> 01:41:51,333
Speaker 2: here with her book picks for this weekend. Hey Catherine,

1985
01:41:51,653 --> 01:41:54,853
Speaker 2: Morning Jack. Let's begin with a novel by Lisa juel

1986
01:41:54,933 --> 01:41:56,413
Speaker 2: tell Us about Don't Let Him In.

1987
01:41:57,533 --> 01:42:00,413
Speaker 11: This is a really twisty mystery and it begins with

1988
01:42:00,573 --> 01:42:05,013
Speaker 11: the death of Paddy Swan, who's this very successful restaurant

1989
01:42:05,573 --> 01:42:08,253
Speaker 11: who's pushed in the part of an oncoming train by

1990
01:42:08,253 --> 01:42:11,453
Speaker 11: a man in his thirties, and it leaves behind his wife, Nina,

1991
01:42:11,533 --> 01:42:13,933
Speaker 11: and his daughter Ash, who's in her mid twenties and

1992
01:42:13,973 --> 01:42:17,173
Speaker 11: has just returned home after a psychological breakdown, and his

1993
01:42:17,253 --> 01:42:20,773
Speaker 11: son Arlo, who's in his early twenties. And sometime after

1994
01:42:20,813 --> 01:42:25,053
Speaker 11: the funeral, this beautifully wrapped gift arrives for Nina from

1995
01:42:25,053 --> 01:42:27,373
Speaker 11: a man named Nick Radcliffe, who says that he used

1996
01:42:27,373 --> 01:42:29,853
Speaker 11: to work with Paddy, and Anna thinks he's lovely and

1997
01:42:29,893 --> 01:42:33,013
Speaker 11: handsome and charming and very kind to her, even though

1998
01:42:33,013 --> 01:42:35,253
Speaker 11: his job takes him away a lot, but Ash isn't

1999
01:42:35,333 --> 01:42:39,213
Speaker 11: quite so convinced. There's also a second storyline that follows

2000
01:42:39,213 --> 01:42:41,933
Speaker 11: this woman, Martha, who's in her early fifties and she's

2001
01:42:41,973 --> 01:42:44,333
Speaker 11: a florist and she's got two teenage sons from her

2002
01:42:44,373 --> 01:42:47,533
Speaker 11: previous marriage and a baby girl, and she's also struggling

2003
01:42:47,573 --> 01:42:50,093
Speaker 11: in her marriage to Alistair, and he's this very demanding

2004
01:42:50,173 --> 01:42:53,573
Speaker 11: job which keeps him constantly traveling and unreachable, and their

2005
01:42:53,573 --> 01:42:58,053
Speaker 11: relationship is falling apart. And the book is told through

2006
01:42:58,093 --> 01:43:01,733
Speaker 11: the third person narration of Ash in her search for

2007
01:43:01,773 --> 01:43:04,693
Speaker 11: answers about Nick. And then there's Martha and Nina stories

2008
01:43:04,733 --> 01:43:07,013
Speaker 11: that are interspersed in there that we build all these

2009
01:43:07,053 --> 01:43:10,413
Speaker 11: past events and as the storylines begin to intertwain, the

2010
01:43:10,453 --> 01:43:14,853
Speaker 11: revelations are really revealing and unpredictable in this very tangled web.

2011
01:43:14,893 --> 01:43:17,613
Speaker 11: And there's lots of secrets and lies and manipulations and

2012
01:43:17,653 --> 01:43:21,813
Speaker 11: it's quite riveting. It's shocking. It's really well written. And

2013
01:43:21,893 --> 01:43:24,173
Speaker 11: this book has everything you could want in a thriller.

2014
01:43:24,293 --> 01:43:26,173
Speaker 11: And I promise you you will need to stay awake

2015
01:43:26,213 --> 01:43:26,773
Speaker 11: to finnish it.

2016
01:43:26,853 --> 01:43:29,773
Speaker 2: Oh really it sounds great, Okay, cool. So that's by

2017
01:43:29,853 --> 01:43:32,453
Speaker 2: Lisa Jowell, the books called Don't Let Him In. You've

2018
01:43:32,453 --> 01:43:35,973
Speaker 2: also read The Phoenix Pencil Company by Alison King.

2019
01:43:36,773 --> 01:43:39,733
Speaker 11: And this is a dabut novel from Alison King, and

2020
01:43:39,773 --> 01:43:42,933
Speaker 11: it's got family secrets, a bit of magical realism, and

2021
01:43:43,013 --> 01:43:45,893
Speaker 11: a dose of espionage in the story. And it begins

2022
01:43:45,933 --> 01:43:49,853
Speaker 11: with this reclusive student called Monica Sai who's stuck almost

2023
01:43:49,933 --> 01:43:53,053
Speaker 11: between two worlds. She's trying to decide whether she should

2024
01:43:53,133 --> 01:43:55,733
Speaker 11: stay with her computer science degree or pause it for

2025
01:43:55,773 --> 01:43:58,733
Speaker 11: a moment to care for her beloved grandmother Eun, who's

2026
01:43:58,773 --> 01:44:02,533
Speaker 11: been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. And then she thinks that life

2027
01:44:02,533 --> 01:44:05,333
Speaker 11: can't get any more complicated for her, and she discovers

2028
01:44:05,413 --> 01:44:09,253
Speaker 11: her grandmother's very intriguing secret that the women and their

2029
01:44:09,253 --> 01:44:12,213
Speaker 11: family have the special power where they can reforge the

2030
01:44:12,213 --> 01:44:15,973
Speaker 11: pencils that their business, the Phoenix Pencil Company, has created

2031
01:44:16,053 --> 01:44:19,813
Speaker 11: and uncover all the memories from the user of this pencil,

2032
01:44:20,013 --> 01:44:22,893
Speaker 11: and it leads Monica on this real voyage of discovery

2033
01:44:22,933 --> 01:44:26,173
Speaker 11: about her grandmother's life, and it flips between two timelines,

2034
01:44:26,253 --> 01:44:30,053
Speaker 11: Monica's struggle in the modern day and her grandmother's past

2035
01:44:30,133 --> 01:44:33,053
Speaker 11: life in war torn Shanghai and as a young girl,

2036
01:44:33,133 --> 01:44:36,093
Speaker 11: Youn and her cousin men survive by selling these handmade

2037
01:44:36,133 --> 01:44:39,653
Speaker 11: pencils and using their mysterious power that helps them navigate

2038
01:44:39,693 --> 01:44:43,613
Speaker 11: this life of espionage. And as her grandmother's facing her

2039
01:44:43,613 --> 01:44:46,573
Speaker 11: final days, Monica wants to reconcile her relationship with her

2040
01:44:46,653 --> 01:44:49,213
Speaker 11: cousin men because she left after the Chinese Civil War

2041
01:44:49,253 --> 01:44:52,533
Speaker 11: and she moved to California, leaving her cousin behind. And

2042
01:44:52,573 --> 01:44:55,293
Speaker 11: it's a really interesting story about how they kind of

2043
01:44:55,653 --> 01:44:59,573
Speaker 11: the lives intertwine and people going in different directions, and

2044
01:44:59,733 --> 01:45:02,053
Speaker 11: it's about the bonds within a family and the stories

2045
01:45:02,053 --> 01:45:05,373
Speaker 11: that create and that power of shelled shared memories and

2046
01:45:05,453 --> 01:45:08,293
Speaker 11: lessons and yeah, a story kind of has these concepts

2047
01:45:08,293 --> 01:45:10,973
Speaker 11: of storytelling and memory and family history and with a

2048
01:45:10,973 --> 01:45:13,213
Speaker 11: bit of spy and stories thrown in. You know, it's

2049
01:45:13,333 --> 01:45:15,693
Speaker 11: really really well told. It's quite intriguing. I'm not a

2050
01:45:15,733 --> 01:45:19,973
Speaker 11: massive magical realism fast. This actually worked and I don't

2051
01:45:19,973 --> 01:45:22,493
Speaker 11: really quite know. I mean, obviously you have to suspend reality,

2052
01:45:22,533 --> 01:45:23,293
Speaker 11: but it really worked.

2053
01:45:23,413 --> 01:45:26,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well it sounds interesting. The Phoenix Pencil Company

2054
01:45:26,853 --> 01:45:29,933
Speaker 2: by Alison King, that's her first book. Hey, Catherine, are

2055
01:45:29,973 --> 01:45:31,013
Speaker 2: you a Jane Austen fan?

2056
01:45:31,853 --> 01:45:32,853
Speaker 11: I am a Jane Austen fan.

2057
01:45:32,893 --> 01:45:34,893
Speaker 2: Have you ever been to the Jane Austen Was it

2058
01:45:35,013 --> 01:45:36,813
Speaker 2: Jane Austen Festival in Bar No?

2059
01:45:36,893 --> 01:45:37,373
Speaker 12: I haven't.

2060
01:45:37,533 --> 01:45:40,853
Speaker 2: No, Okay, We've just been discussing bath and in the

2061
01:45:40,933 --> 01:45:43,013
Speaker 2: UK and our travel segment this morning, and I see

2062
01:45:43,013 --> 01:45:45,133
Speaker 2: you I've been and has fliped me a note to

2063
01:45:45,173 --> 01:45:47,333
Speaker 2: say the Jane Austin Festival is on from the twelfth

2064
01:45:47,373 --> 01:45:49,213
Speaker 2: to the twenty first of September, so I'm sure for

2065
01:45:49,333 --> 01:45:51,453
Speaker 2: Jane Austen fans that might be a bit of a

2066
01:45:51,493 --> 01:45:54,333
Speaker 2: special event to get too. Thank you very much for that,

2067
01:45:54,373 --> 01:45:56,693
Speaker 2: and and thank you Catherine for your recommendations this week.

2068
01:45:56,733 --> 01:45:58,933
Speaker 2: So Don't Let Him In by Lisa Jewel was Catherine's

2069
01:45:58,933 --> 01:46:01,933
Speaker 2: first book. The Phoenix Pencil Company, the One with a

2070
01:46:01,933 --> 01:46:04,653
Speaker 2: bit of Magical Realism was her second. That's by Allison

2071
01:46:04,773 --> 01:46:07,573
Speaker 2: King in All of the details for those books is

2072
01:46:07,613 --> 01:46:09,693
Speaker 2: on the News Talks. He'd be website.

2073
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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on All you Need to

2074
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Speaker 1: Know Saturday Mornings with Jack Tame and Bepere dot co

2075
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Speaker 1: dot in it for high quality supplements News Talks.

2076
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Speaker 19: It'd be.

2077
01:46:21,293 --> 01:46:29,053
Speaker 2: Love, I Love You Will we Are.

2078
01:46:33,773 --> 01:46:43,253
Speaker 10: Love dieson Give You Sure.

2079
01:46:45,933 --> 01:46:50,653
Speaker 2: This is Yukon. That's one of the songs from Swag,

2080
01:46:51,013 --> 01:46:55,533
Speaker 2: the freshly released album from Justin Bieber, his seventh album,

2081
01:46:55,693 --> 01:46:58,413
Speaker 2: released overnight. It had been rumored it was coming for

2082
01:46:58,453 --> 01:47:01,893
Speaker 2: some time, but Justin just dropped it, which meant Estelle Clifford,

2083
01:47:02,533 --> 01:47:05,013
Speaker 2: our music reviewer, had to drop everything she was doing

2084
01:47:05,293 --> 01:47:08,133
Speaker 2: so she could go and listen to the Bebes. Hey,

2085
01:47:08,253 --> 01:47:08,813
Speaker 2: good to see it.

2086
01:47:08,933 --> 01:47:11,973
Speaker 25: Hello, h big big Friday night at my house at

2087
01:47:12,373 --> 01:47:13,893
Speaker 25: at night? Hello Swag?

2088
01:47:13,933 --> 01:47:14,733
Speaker 9: What are you all about?

2089
01:47:16,013 --> 01:47:18,853
Speaker 25: And so this song here has caused a little bit

2090
01:47:18,853 --> 01:47:21,293
Speaker 25: of mystery around who sings it?

2091
01:47:21,533 --> 01:47:23,333
Speaker 2: Yeah? Is that him?

2092
01:47:23,573 --> 01:47:24,293
Speaker 3: So? Well?

2093
01:47:24,373 --> 01:47:26,933
Speaker 25: Lots of rumor around it being Scissor or someone like that,

2094
01:47:27,053 --> 01:47:30,133
Speaker 25: there's nothing in the credits that suggests so, so, yes,

2095
01:47:30,333 --> 01:47:36,613
Speaker 25: this is the consensus, this is the Bebes, this is him, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2096
01:47:36,693 --> 01:47:38,653
Speaker 25: And then he does the backing vocals in his normal

2097
01:47:38,693 --> 01:47:41,613
Speaker 25: voice that you recognize and I must have. When I've

2098
01:47:41,613 --> 01:47:43,013
Speaker 25: listened to the song a couple of times, I'm like,

2099
01:47:43,093 --> 01:47:46,013
Speaker 25: it's definitely the way he sings, and I think that's

2100
01:47:46,093 --> 01:47:48,133
Speaker 25: kind of clever, Like I like that he's sort of

2101
01:47:48,613 --> 01:47:55,013
Speaker 25: disguised himself but doing something a little bit different. Yeah,

2102
01:47:55,053 --> 01:47:57,333
Speaker 25: And that's kind of how the whole album sort of is.

2103
01:47:57,333 --> 01:48:00,013
Speaker 25: There's these moments that are quite it's quite intimate in

2104
01:48:00,053 --> 01:48:03,613
Speaker 25: regards to how it's been recorded, and it's not necessarily

2105
01:48:03,653 --> 01:48:06,533
Speaker 25: big and showy, like a lot of the vocals have

2106
01:48:06,613 --> 01:48:09,453
Speaker 25: that more closer you sort of lean into it a

2107
01:48:09,453 --> 01:48:11,253
Speaker 25: little bit more, Like I feel like the whole album

2108
01:48:11,413 --> 01:48:13,733
Speaker 25: is like that. I mean, there's lots of rumors around

2109
01:48:13,773 --> 01:48:16,773
Speaker 25: him having jam sessions and all that kind of stuff

2110
01:48:16,893 --> 01:48:19,173
Speaker 25: leading into writing new music, and he's pretty much just

2111
01:48:19,253 --> 01:48:22,413
Speaker 25: put it on the album. I think as it has been,

2112
01:48:23,493 --> 01:48:26,413
Speaker 25: like there's beautiful production and beautiful musicality, but again I

2113
01:48:26,413 --> 01:48:28,813
Speaker 25: think it's just kind of almost on the fly, on

2114
01:48:28,853 --> 01:48:31,733
Speaker 25: the spot and then added some things to its. Actually,

2115
01:48:31,733 --> 01:48:33,653
Speaker 25: also a couple of songs on here, like twenty one

2116
01:48:33,693 --> 01:48:36,653
Speaker 25: songs on the album, but a couple of those like

2117
01:48:36,773 --> 01:48:40,253
Speaker 25: voice memos, right, interesting, So one is a yeah, one

2118
01:48:40,333 --> 01:48:42,493
Speaker 25: is a voice memo jam session, So I would kind

2119
01:48:42,533 --> 01:48:45,133
Speaker 25: of love to see the behind the scenes footage of

2120
01:48:45,133 --> 01:48:47,733
Speaker 25: how they put that together. And another one is legit

2121
01:48:47,973 --> 01:48:51,613
Speaker 25: just him and his guitar, Zoomer House it's called and

2122
01:48:51,653 --> 01:48:54,613
Speaker 25: it's like a minute twenty of just like you almost

2123
01:48:54,613 --> 01:48:56,893
Speaker 25: feel like you're snooping a little bit, like you're seeing

2124
01:48:56,973 --> 01:48:59,413
Speaker 25: him maybe talking or singing to his kid. You know,

2125
01:48:59,493 --> 01:49:01,733
Speaker 25: like it's kind of got that sort of vibe about it,

2126
01:49:01,773 --> 01:49:05,173
Speaker 25: like a dude in his guitar just sounding out something

2127
01:49:05,173 --> 01:49:06,533
Speaker 25: that he kind of likes.

2128
01:49:07,053 --> 01:49:07,813
Speaker 9: And again so.

2129
01:49:07,733 --> 01:49:11,173
Speaker 25: You're like, okay, now we're in this really intimate should

2130
01:49:11,213 --> 01:49:12,373
Speaker 25: we be listening to this or not? And is it

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Speaker 25: a full song?

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Speaker 13: Not?

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Speaker 25: Like it just kind of ends there you go, that's it.

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Speaker 25: I was holding the guitar for a minute twenty and

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Speaker 25: now I'm done with it, you know, like in just

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Speaker 25: moving through, I think that he's definitely decided to take

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Speaker 25: control of his narrative, which because there's always stories and

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01:49:28,173 --> 01:49:30,653
Speaker 25: gossip around these kind of especially when they're sort of

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01:49:30,733 --> 01:49:32,973
Speaker 25: kept to themselves for a few years, and then people

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01:49:33,013 --> 01:49:35,333
Speaker 25: being like, are we worried about him? He's acting all strange?

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01:49:36,013 --> 01:49:38,213
Speaker 25: I reckon, he's just a dude who's well tired because

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01:49:38,253 --> 01:49:40,733
Speaker 25: he's got a baby. Yeah, and he's also trying to

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01:49:40,733 --> 01:49:43,213
Speaker 25: write some new music. And then the papo are always

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01:49:43,253 --> 01:49:44,133
Speaker 25: in his face.

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01:49:45,053 --> 01:49:47,693
Speaker 2: But now always in his face. I mean I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't envy his life at all. I mean, you know,

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01:49:49,693 --> 01:49:51,453
Speaker 2: he's yeah, I mean some people say he's got a

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Speaker 2: pretty good life. Yeah, ye, but yeah, but I mean

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Speaker 2: there was there's been a lot of speculation right about,

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Speaker 2: like if he's in a good place and that kind

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Speaker 2: of thing.

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Speaker 25: And not when the pepperazz are in his face. There's

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Speaker 25: actually a song on the album called Butterflies. We've got

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01:50:05,453 --> 01:50:07,653
Speaker 25: a little sample here because it does sample one of

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01:50:07,653 --> 01:50:10,173
Speaker 25: his confrontations he had only about a month or so ago.

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01:50:10,693 --> 01:50:12,853
Speaker 25: If you want to listen to butterflies.

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01:50:13,093 --> 01:50:34,933
Speaker 26: Money money, money, money, money, money, money, money.

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Speaker 25: I mean I kind of find it funny that's something

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01:50:28,853 --> 01:50:30,893
Speaker 25: that really only happened about a month ago. He's already

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01:50:30,933 --> 01:50:35,413
Speaker 25: sampled and put into the start of Interesting, if it's

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Speaker 25: going to be a global speculation, then why not just

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01:50:39,173 --> 01:50:40,973
Speaker 25: why not just add it to your own album and

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01:50:41,613 --> 01:50:43,493
Speaker 25: that means it lives forever, which I think is kind

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01:50:43,493 --> 01:50:46,053
Speaker 25: of interesting that he's decided to then put it into

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Speaker 25: a song. But it's a murky track too, Like it's

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01:50:49,213 --> 01:50:52,413
Speaker 25: got this really heavy bass drum line, which I guess

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01:50:52,413 --> 01:50:55,173
Speaker 25: the experience of having someone constantly outside your window or

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Speaker 25: every time you try and hop in a car or something,

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01:50:57,293 --> 01:50:59,053
Speaker 25: and your face is a murky kind of dark s

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Speaker 25: a place to be. But then singing about butterflies, which

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01:51:03,133 --> 01:51:07,333
Speaker 25: is like a beautiful, letting go fly away kind of thing.

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01:51:08,453 --> 01:51:09,813
Speaker 25: Interesting kind of contrast.

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01:51:10,613 --> 01:51:12,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right, yeah yeah, And.

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Speaker 25: Then and yeah, this is this album. I mean, I

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01:51:16,453 --> 01:51:18,133
Speaker 25: like that he's kind of done the Beyonce thing and

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01:51:18,133 --> 01:51:20,453
Speaker 25: just gone on, oh, well, here's the album then, But again,

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01:51:20,493 --> 01:51:22,133
Speaker 25: I think that's part of him having control of his

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01:51:22,173 --> 01:51:25,013
Speaker 25: own narrative. And there is some real I feel like

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01:51:25,053 --> 01:51:29,213
Speaker 25: it's a very nineties sounding album. There's some synth and

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01:51:29,293 --> 01:51:31,373
Speaker 25: pop and R and B that I'm really digging. I

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01:51:31,373 --> 01:51:34,893
Speaker 25: think the collabs he's done are really great. Great vocalists.

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01:51:36,013 --> 01:51:38,333
Speaker 25: It's like I've said, some of the some of the

2183
01:51:38,333 --> 01:51:41,973
Speaker 25: tracks are actually just him having chats about his life

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01:51:41,973 --> 01:51:46,893
Speaker 25: with Drewski, who's like a comedian actor, social media dude. Yes,

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01:51:46,933 --> 01:51:49,093
Speaker 25: sort of talking through where his headspace is at and

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01:51:49,093 --> 01:51:51,053
Speaker 25: then just actually leaving there on the album, I think

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01:51:51,373 --> 01:51:54,533
Speaker 25: like some interesting choices to say this is where I'm at,

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01:51:54,533 --> 01:51:57,853
Speaker 25: this is where I'm moving forward. Definitely loves his wife,

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01:51:57,853 --> 01:52:00,253
Speaker 25: definitely loves his kid, and I guess just saying I'm

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01:52:00,293 --> 01:52:01,733
Speaker 25: human and I'm trying to do the best I can

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01:52:01,773 --> 01:52:04,533
Speaker 25: and move forward with that. Yeah, nothing too deep in

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01:52:04,573 --> 01:52:07,213
Speaker 25: some of the lyrics, though, very repetitive, like they just

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01:52:07,253 --> 01:52:09,613
Speaker 25: says things over and over again and isn't going too

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01:52:10,093 --> 01:52:12,293
Speaker 25: deep about it or anything. But I think still him

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01:52:12,733 --> 01:52:16,333
Speaker 25: having control. Daisy's is one of my favorite tracks, which

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01:52:16,853 --> 01:52:18,373
Speaker 25: we're going to play a.

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01:52:18,373 --> 01:52:18,973
Speaker 9: Little bit later.

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01:52:19,173 --> 01:52:21,213
Speaker 25: I reckon this could be the big radio play. It's

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01:52:21,293 --> 01:52:25,373
Speaker 25: quite poppy. It's got that real cool lo fi guitar

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01:52:25,533 --> 01:52:27,573
Speaker 25: riff intro that then carries on through the rest of

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01:52:27,573 --> 01:52:29,933
Speaker 25: the tune. His vocals are quite four front, which I

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01:52:29,933 --> 01:52:32,333
Speaker 25: think has always worked for him in those big pop

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01:52:32,413 --> 01:52:34,493
Speaker 25: songs that have then become kind.

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01:52:34,413 --> 01:52:35,173
Speaker 5: Of radio hits.

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01:52:35,213 --> 01:52:38,453
Speaker 25: Yeah, yeah, and sort of a little bit of a

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01:52:38,493 --> 01:52:41,933
Speaker 25: hazy kind of oh my summary sort of sound to

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01:52:41,973 --> 01:52:43,653
Speaker 25: it as well, which I think will actually do quite well.

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01:52:43,653 --> 01:52:45,333
Speaker 25: But it's actually one that's just really stood out to me,

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01:52:45,413 --> 01:52:47,213
Speaker 25: So yeah, why not have a lot of listen to

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01:52:47,213 --> 01:52:47,613
Speaker 25: that as well.

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01:52:48,573 --> 01:52:50,413
Speaker 2: Nice? Okay, what'd you give it?

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01:52:50,413 --> 01:52:52,213
Speaker 25: It's an eight out of ten for me, very good.

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01:52:52,293 --> 01:52:54,533
Speaker 25: I'm not sure if I'm into the random chat stuff,

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01:52:54,533 --> 01:52:56,053
Speaker 25: but you know, it's there and it's got a.

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01:52:56,053 --> 01:52:58,413
Speaker 2: Pot I don't like that. Yeah, it does have a purpose.

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01:52:58,613 --> 01:53:00,933
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I don't know.

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01:53:01,093 --> 01:53:01,773
Speaker 15: I don't like when they do.

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01:53:01,893 --> 01:53:03,853
Speaker 2: I don't know when Kanya did it either. I don't like,

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01:53:03,973 --> 01:53:05,613
Speaker 2: you know, I just I don't like that.

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01:53:05,813 --> 01:53:07,973
Speaker 25: Little moments of it where it does remind me of that,

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01:53:08,093 --> 01:53:10,333
Speaker 25: And maybe that's why I've decided to give it that,

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01:53:10,493 --> 01:53:14,533
Speaker 25: because it's also about just saying, oh you're you're sounding

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01:53:14,573 --> 01:53:17,053
Speaker 25: black and like just really trying to talk up what

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01:53:17,093 --> 01:53:19,093
Speaker 25: it is he's trying to right, And I don't know

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01:53:19,093 --> 01:53:21,293
Speaker 25: if it's forced or if it's genuine looking I can't

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01:53:21,333 --> 01:53:23,253
Speaker 25: quite sell, but anyway, it's there.

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01:53:23,493 --> 01:53:25,373
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for doing the tough stuff for us

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01:53:25,453 --> 01:53:29,093
Speaker 2: last night. Last caller as soon as it as soon

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01:53:29,133 --> 01:53:31,573
Speaker 2: as it dropped. So yeah, eight out of ten for swag.

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01:53:31,613 --> 01:53:32,853
Speaker 2: We'll have a bit more of a listen. We'll pick

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01:53:32,853 --> 01:53:34,973
Speaker 2: out Daisy's your favorite one there the style, so we

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01:53:35,013 --> 01:53:36,573
Speaker 2: can play that in a few minutes The Style. Clifford

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Speaker 2: Talks here'd be. But until then we're going to leave

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Speaker 2: you with Justin Bieber. His new album is Swag. This

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01:54:43,653 --> 01:54:46,453
Speaker 2: song is called Daisies See you next week?

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01:54:48,013 --> 01:54:49,653
Speaker 5: Where you're going on them?

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01:54:52,413 --> 01:54:57,053
Speaker 10: Think I'm ready you and happy it is?

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01:54:57,093 --> 01:54:59,773
Speaker 5: You know I can take it conning.

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01:54:59,893 --> 01:55:03,213
Speaker 10: Indeed, so many days to let you see your work

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01:55:03,333 --> 01:55:06,813
Speaker 10: here kisses, though, will you kN.

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01:55:08,133 --> 01:55:09,373
Speaker 5: Keep up with arrows paved?

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01:55:09,493 --> 01:55:13,253
Speaker 13: I'm just shooting a shot if I could get in,

2267
01:55:13,613 --> 01:55:16,133
Speaker 13: drop me a pin, hopping up and come over.

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01:55:16,853 --> 01:55:18,693
Speaker 16: Want of the friends and thin skin.

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01:55:18,853 --> 01:55:21,333
Speaker 5: I wanna get me up.

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01:55:22,653 --> 01:55:23,813
Speaker 14: The way you got me.

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01:55:24,053 --> 01:55:28,693
Speaker 5: All that my head they ain't got badly. You be

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Speaker 5: my bag.

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Speaker 19: Having it is?

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01:55:31,933 --> 01:55:35,093
Speaker 10: You know I can take it gone in a date?

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01:55:35,373 --> 01:55:38,213
Speaker 9: How many dates till I can see he got working.

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01:55:41,133 --> 01:55:46,453
Speaker 5: Oh my god, hold them. My feelings got.

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01:55:46,333 --> 01:55:54,293
Speaker 13: Me and none of my back, and.

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01:55:55,813 --> 01:55:58,733
Speaker 5: You don't have men in You got.

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01:55:58,573 --> 01:56:08,293
Speaker 10: Me now and you'll have me yalling your health beyond.

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01:56:15,093 --> 01:56:15,333
Speaker 5: Way.

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Speaker 17: You hear me on the heal me on the.

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Speaker 5: Monday, You and puppy.

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01:56:23,653 --> 01:56:24,053
Speaker 12: It is.

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Speaker 10: You know, I can take it telling the days, how

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01:56:27,813 --> 01:56:28,933
Speaker 10: many days.

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01:56:28,733 --> 01:56:30,413
Speaker 5: Till I can see you working?

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