WEBVTT - "Against All Odds India Win The T20 World Cup" 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:13.040 Dinna Koto and marste Alter and welcome to the BYC Podcast, 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.520 coming to you from the Export Beer Garden studio in 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.000 the midst of a week dominated by Indian winds, Indians, 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:24.560 Indian flags and Indian helpable relief. This week we reflect 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.599 on the T twenty World Cup Dani Mom and what 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.639 it all really means. We gloss over to annihilations of 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:31.920 the white Ferns. We dig into some correspondence from our 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.200 legendary listeners and wash it all down with some cricket 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:38.320 violence juice from Pakistani I'm Paul Ford, godfather of the 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:41.839 Beige Brigade. I'm joined by Master of the New Zealand 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:45.880 Cricket Scoop, Dylan Cleaver, our pleasy DNDE of the Substack 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:50.800 sports newsletter Unmissible writing in there the bounce absolute belter 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.360 of the newsletter. Highly recommend and I pay for it. DC. 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.040 Did you bust out your green, orange and white face 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:58.280 paint and body paint this week? 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:01.000 I didn't. 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:03.400 Actually, it was a really niggli time to watch it, 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:05.880 and I've got a confession. I did watch the match 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:11.839 in full, but unfortunately I already knew the result before 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.839 I watched the end of it, but I still found 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:18.800 myself weirdly excited because I didn't actually I didn't realize 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:23.280 the permutations that got us to that Indian victory. And 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:27.000 really how I think we'll address this a little bit later, 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.520 but how South Africa were knocking on the door of 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:35.440 history and it was unlocked, yet they couldn't find a 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:35.959 way through. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.120 Yes, for the three people in the whole cricket and 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.880 universe that don't know what happened. Of course, India a 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.440 one hundred and seventy six for seven off their twenty others, 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.720 the rat Rat Holy finding some form seventy six off 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.760 fifty nine balls in the miracle, man akshar Ptel with 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:56.200 forty seven off thirty one, and Nortie and Kishev Maharaj 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.320 the pick of the bowlers. And then the South African 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:02.200 chase which looks so bad, then so good and then 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:06.880 ultimately failed, one sixty nine for eight off their twenty overs. 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.400 Massive innings from Heinrich class and the Basher Quintin de 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.280 Kock was superb. David Millard did some good things, and 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.440 it was Hardik Pandia with the most wickets, but it 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:19.239 was Jasper, yes, but Boomra that man, that miracle man again, 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:23.560 who was a real factor in that final. Dylan. I 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.600 thought it was an excellent final, actually played on one 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.280 of the best pitchers in the tournament, and definitely between 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:31.880 the two best teams. Of course, they both went into 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.840 the match unbeaten, having won eight matches in a row. 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.480 There were some foi balls and some bullshit in the format. 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:39.800 You know, there was some shenanigans I think around how 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.400 it all came together, but we can't really argue with 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:43.960 what the final that was produced. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:45.760 I thought it was excellent. 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.640 You had two teams that are clearly committed to the 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:52.200 T twenty, and you can see that by their domestic competitions, 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.480 which are throwing a lot of money, a lot of resource, 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.200 a lot of time at two best teams of the 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:02.840 tournament are traditional cricket venue in a town or a 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:06.640 city that breathes cricket and has just such great lineage 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:11.320 of world class players, possibly. 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:11.800 The greatest of them all. 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:15.960 And Gary Sobers and so everything about it felt right. 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:17.040 It was. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:19.440 It was just a. 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:24.120 Really good game of cricket. Verat Poly in his last 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.239 T twenty, I know it goes out a winner goes 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:27.520 out with. 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:28.880 Some class I didn't actually realize. 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:33.200 Did you realize what a drought it had been for 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:37.040 India at ICC tournaments? I just kind of assume that 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.080 they win these kind of things all the time, but 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.720 it was it actually been got to a point where 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.200 there was some real anxiety on the subcontinent. 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.240 Yeah, well, I expected to win. I think it's probably 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.560 I mean, there's just so much overwhelming coverage about them, 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:53.640 particularly when these tournaments roll around, right, But I think 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.360 it's a thirteen year drought, isn't it. They've lost the 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.440 most recently the fifty over final at home, where literally 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:04.080 the entire Indian state expected them to win, and of 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.880 course multiple World Test Championship finals. They're always I mean, 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.440 they were a sensational team, but as you say that, 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:13.040 the pressure continued to build and certainly over the last 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:15.600 thirteen years they had not managed to deliver. 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.440 Yes, the twenty eleven World Cup I think was the 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.760 last one, and yeah, there was certainly a lot of 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:27.400 fretting going along. As you mentioned that South Africa started poorly, 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.560 but let's be honest here they got themselves into a 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:37.719 precision position one hundred and fifty one four after sixteen overs. 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.880 That is a Doddle twenty six of twenty four with 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.920 two set players, not just two set players, but Klassen 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.360 and Miller, who were t twenty. 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.680 Gods with the bat. How did they lose from there? 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.839 Yeah? I don't know. I mean, obviously it would be 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.279 very easy to just say they choked, but you did. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:02.119 When you're watching the game, you did always feel because 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.760 it was real that the joker in the pack was 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.960 still those two overs that Boomra had up his sleeve, 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:09.800 and you knew that if he could come out and 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:14.640 wreck and havoc that South Africa and Tail even sort 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:18.920 of that lower order good players. But it did feel 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:20.680 like some of those guys are batting maybe a little 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.239 bit higher than you'd ideally want them to do really 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:27.039 kind of so Evrica very reliant on their their top 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.160 five really, and after that, you know, with Maharaj and 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.960 Yansen coming in, it did feel like they were you 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.760 didn't want to see them just quite that early, to 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.440 be honest. And so yeah, look, I'm reluctant to call 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.919 it a choke, you know, I think it was a 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:44.400 it was just a boomrai actually, And you know, as 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:48.520 you say, they were in trouble early and they were 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:50.800 actually in trouble sort of reasonably late as well. It 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.520 was really that not from class in that twenty seven 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.719 ball fifty two, but yes you did think as well 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.479 twenty six off twenty four they should be okay, a 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.760 very well timed injury break. I'm not reading anything into it. 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.599 Was literally just a momentum breaker from Richard punt and 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.640 then when they came back Class and of course just 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.479 gave us wicked away. Just you can't criticize in those 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:16.640 blazing at everything, very unlikely that he was going to 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.599 come out and just knock it around ones and twos, 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:21.320 which is kind of what the situation. That's all the 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:22.239 situation needed. 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:26.240 Frustratingly, Yeah, well that's exactly right. I mean, boomra bowl. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:30.560 That's seventeenth over and I'm sitting there watching it, admittedly 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:34.200 already knowing the result, saying just get your six singles. 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:38.400 You can do all the damage at the other end. Instead, 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.960 as you mentioned, Class gave his wicked away. You're dead right, 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:46.520 Marco Jensen. Yensen, batting at least one position too high 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:51.159 at number seven, comes out and tries to block, tries 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.880 to play a traditional cricket for defense, and gets his 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:57.279 Poles knocked it and from that moment on you could 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.760 feel the tremors in the South Africa and dug out 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:02.520 and I just had well. 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.120 I didn't have the feeling. I knew it. 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.800 I knew they were going to fall short, but you 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:12.880 could almost sense that hope fading away. Each person that 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.120 came to the wicket was a little less confident than 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:15.840 the last one. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:19.119 And yeah, in the end, in the end, the best 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:19.600 team one. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.920 And in some ways it was hard to gauge that 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.480 earlier in this tournament because some of the conditions they 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:29.360 played on were it was such a lottery because the 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.840 format possibly needs to be ironed out ahead of the 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.080 next one. But in the end, I think, you know, 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.920 the best team won and we was waving goodbye to 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.360 a few t twenty legends after this World Cup, like 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:45.960 came Williamson, Ravi Jadasa who was just a non factor 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:50.520 brit India in this tournament, row At Sharma and Verat 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.040 Kohley who had a dreadful tournament until went. It really 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:53.840 really made a motion. 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.400 That's right, what I think seventy five He had seventy 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:01.200 five runs in the tournament. That's across eight games. I 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:02.760 can't I be bad at eight times, but let's just 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:06.200 say roughly, and then scored seventy six in the final, 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.400 and yeah, he was superban and went through the gears. 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.600 I did love. Of course. There was lots of talking 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:16.600 we've touched on this about the joy and the palpable 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.760 relief and also the redemption arc of India. And I 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:24.200 saw a couple of reporters sort of pretty obvious to 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.640 acknowledge a redemption song by Bob Marley, of course, and 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.440 Bob Marley Country over there. But you know, I'm not 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:32.880 quite sure that we can. It's probably drawing quite a 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.600 long bow to say that this Cricket World Cup was 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.440 the story about a team that had been abducted into 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.560 slavery fighting for their physical and mental freedom. I just 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.160 feel like that might be a little bit kind of 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:44.959 gilding the lily. 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.080 Yeah, look, they didn't play a Jamaica reve which is 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:49.840 actually Bob Marley's hometown. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.760 Totally totally good luck. If you were traveling from anywhere 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.959 trying to get to that game apparently was absolutely apocalyptic. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.079 If you were a journalist who was not part of 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.760 the TV commentary crew, if you were a person who 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.280 was not a player, or an umpire apparently, just the 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.679 absolutely ridiculous situation where you traveled for ten hours in 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:08.760 what is a direct one hour flight from a couple 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.760 of the semi final venues. I know the English media 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.680 were absolutely raging, not that they were there, so they 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:18.040 didn't need to worry too much. Yeah, you mentioned DC 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.760 those delivery, the delivery to to Marko Jensen, and there 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:26.120 was another sensational delivery to Resa Hendrix, who has had 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:29.000 a pretty difficult tournament, felt like a bit of a 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.160 walking wicket, and boom used up one of his best 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:36.760 deliveries on caustling him. I saw Kracken vocal Boomra and 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.520 I really related to this. When I was watching those 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:43.120 last the sort of last chapter of that game. They 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.640 said Boomra is like phone. He is like the phone 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:47.319 a friend and who wants to be a millionaire. He's 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.560 like your lifeline. You know he's going to do something 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:51.679 and it's just a matter of when you're going to 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.720 play that card. I mean, that's a pretty extraordinary position 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:56.400 for a for a player to be in. 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.480 Yeah, I mean he is that good, isn't he. I 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:03.560 actually might assigned one of those previous wickets to him. Incorrectly. 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.080 Pandia was also pretty good at the end as well, 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.040 and he had been the kind of fragile link in 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.600 that Indian bowling line up up till then as well. 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.520 He was kind of the one that opposition of targeted. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.400 But Boomra really is that good? And of course we 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:21.320 can't leave this final without touching on what was either 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:26.760 a sensational boundary catch and emblematic of where the modern 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.800 game has got to in terms of outfielding. 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:34.480 Or a little bit controversial. Where do you stand on 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:34.880 this pool? 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:36.880 Do you stand on the boundary rope or do you 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:38.800 stand just inside it? 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:43.240 Well, I feel like I'm arguing with the Almighty on 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:46.800 this one because I saw that Sakyadev said that it 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:48.800 was God's plan for him to take that catch, So 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:52.120 I waited. I do go into this discussion with some trepidation, 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.800 but look his dancing feet in the deep. They've talked 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.400 about taking one of the most important catches in Indian 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:02.360 cricket history. Look it was that. Where did I sit 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.600 on it? I'm happy with it, to be honest. I 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:08.120 think I've got the rule book out. The playing conditions 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:12.320 for this tournament said that it's the cushion, not a 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:16.400 white line, which is the boundary. Literally, Section nineteen point 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.840 three says if a solid object used to mark the 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.760 boundary is disturbed for any reason, then the boundary shall 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:25.080 be considered to be in its original position. So look, 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.960 I just think I don't think that he touched the 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.720 tobler owne Yes, his foot was over the sort of 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:33.840 pre marked white line. I understand that it was to 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.640 do with where the pitch wills, and it was there 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.480 the whole game. And I don't know did a South 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.360 African player did Arik not? Yeah, when he thundered into 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.760 the fence early on in the match, did he did 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:44.680 he move it and it didn't get moved back into place? 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:48.079 I'm not sure? But either way, look, I think I'm 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.120 I like the controversy because I think it's just part 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.320 of the game and it's great that there's these stories 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.520 and narratives and there's some great little AI videos that 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.840 make it look more dubious and so on. But from 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.840 my point of view, fear and Square I thought it was. 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:04.840 And you know, my heart went out to David Miller. Actually, 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:06.600 I've got a lot of time for him, and yeah, 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:07.880 well where did you Where did you find it. It 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:08.640 was it God's plan. 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:11.719 Yeah, I don't know if it was God's plan. I 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:15.160 don't know if he should bring Vishnu or receiver or 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:23.000 I'm not sure which one governs boundary catches. But I 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.439 always like every time I get something over that, now, 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.959 my mind immediately cast back to Law's twenty nineteen and 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:34.440 Trent Bolt, And again it was just my immediate thought, 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:35.920 and I try to banish it. I was trying to 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.600 get out, Damn thought get out, but I couldn't. I'm 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.760 just thinking throw it into capital. But no, I think 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:46.439 it's I think it was fine. Yeah, it would be 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:50.880 really weird to try and explain it to an American 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.960 who might have just been into this, getting into cricket 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.120 and watching this tournament if that had been ruled not 0:12:56.240 --> 0:13:01.480 out because his foot clipped the freestanding white line when 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.400 for all intents and purposes, you know, the Tobla owns 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:05.760 the boundary. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.360 Yeah, I think there are. I mean I think maybe 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.280 there's different playing conditions and sometimes it is the line 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.920 and et cetera. But yeah, look, it just seemed fair 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.520 and square. It was also one of those moments in 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.880 the game where you go that is a screamer of 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.080 a catch if the match turns on that, you know 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:24.440 fair enough? Actually yeah, and I know, of course I 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.120 know David Miller was not sitting in the dug out. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.560 He certainly did not start returning to the dugout till 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.560 he'd watched it about a hundred times and then dragged 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.680 his bat and dragged his sorry us back to the 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.680 South African dugout. And as I say, I did feel 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.160 really sorry for him. He's one of those guys I've followed. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.920 I think I've talked about it before. He wasn't playing 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.040 or we ended up having a couple of drinks at 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.640 a Barrack mount More just not just me and having 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.280 the whole bunch of people. And he was a real 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.360 good bugger. He told some great yarns about Danie Vittori 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.640 and Jesse Ryder and ipl times and all that kind 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:54.960 of stuff. 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:55.120 You know. 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.680 He's thirty five years old, of course, famously has never 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:01.280 played Test cricket. Retired from first class cricket twenty eighteen. 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.719 He's played two hundred and ninety eight international matches and 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:08.320 zero Test matches, despite having an average of thirty six 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:12.920 and six tons in first class cricket I mean, and 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.360 you know, an archetypal just if you were making a 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:18.839 T twenty cricketer. He is the kind of guy that 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.400 he plays an incredible fielder. I don't know if he bowls. 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.800 I'm sure he probably doesn't. You know that he does 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:28.440 famously famous quote which was from his old man. And 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.600 he's been playing cricket like this his whole life. If 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:32.360 it's in the arc, it's out in the park, if 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.440 it's in the v it's in the tree. And I 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:39.000 just think, you know, if our dads had given us 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.840 that kind of advice, we would be probably much better 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.680 cricketers than what we were trying to do out there 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.840 DC noirdling it around and so on, you know. And 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.880 I felt really sorry for Miller. He was in tears 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.360 at the end. I think he felt like, you know, well, 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:56.200 obviously he was probably one foot away from pulling off 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.760 what would have been a sensational victory for South Africa. 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.080 And you mentioned this before, or he was facing hard 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.960 at Pandia. It was a low full toss. He smoked it. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.080 Maybe he you know, wasn't He wasn't one of the 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:07.520 class and ones that were sort of landing on the 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:11.000 solar panels on the roof of the grandstand. But jeez, 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.440 he got a lot of it. And I thought when 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.440 Pandi was bowling that last those you know, in those 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.280 final overs, he's there for the taking. This guy he's 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:20.520 not going to be able to step up to it. 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:22.200 But credit to him he did. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:23.320 He did. 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:28.680 Yeah. The other sensational piece of cracket I just wanted 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.040 to touch on this before we go, was that runout. Well, 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.480 first of all, a Chapatel, how good is a floating 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:37.280 number eight who comes up and just looks sensational forty 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.120 seven or thirty one resurrected the Indian innings. But the 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.040 runout run him being run out by Quintin da Kock 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.640 from the wicket keeper's end he was at the non 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.040 strikers in was one of the greatest pieces of cricket. 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.080 Absolutely superb presence of mind from Quintin to Cock. Has 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.120 he retired? Is he retiring as well? I feel like 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.240 it's the last hurrah for him as well. 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.640 I kind of felt like this if he is retiring, 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:00.440 it kind of feels like this is a a third 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.680 or fourth retirement. It feels like he's stepped aside from 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:05.880 a lot of things. But then I recognize it remembered 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:09.800 that one of them was actually just refusing to play 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:12.680 after refusing to kneel at the World T twenty in 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.520 the UAE. So I think I mistook that for a 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.160 retirement because I was half surprised to see him here 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.880 at the the st of the tournament next year. So 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.960 haven't you given the international game away? But yeah, it 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.760 was a sensational piece of cricket by to Cook and 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:32.560 a slightly lazy piece of cricket from the otherwise brilliant 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:33.800 Exha Patel. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.240 I think he was just tired. DC. He doesn't normally 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:38.600 back for thirty one deliveries. He certainly doesn't normally get 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.960 forty seven. Jesus is a handy, very handy player. Hey, 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.200 we should take away break and when we come back, 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:50.239 let's have a quick yarn about what this whole messy, interesting, fascinating, 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:57.480 intriguing T twenty World Cup means for cricket. Welcome back 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.840 to the BYC with Dylan Clever and Paul Ford, where 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.200 going over the entrails of the Cricket World Cup. We 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.320 hardly even really talking about the Black Caps, to be honest. 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.800 But Dylan, when you reflect on this tea twenty World Cup. 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:09.960 I mean that's a pretty lofty question. But what do 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.639 you think it all means? What's its legacy? Did it 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.080 do what it was meant to do? What kind of 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:15.040 things stick in your mind? 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.159 Actually, it just felt a little bit messy. Partly that 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:24.920 was weather, Partly that was underprepared venues. Partly it is format. 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.560 I don't know if the group to Super eight to 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.640 semis to Final works. It just feels like it could 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.560 be cleaner. I know that you get less content if 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.880 you go straight into the knockouts from from group play, 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:43.080 and I mean content is king right, But I thought 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:46.280 I thought it mostly did it strive? 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:46.600 Really? 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.240 And you've said here we've learned how to use the 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.840 word diaspora. Well, I've actually learned how to say it 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.000 because I kept on that I would always call it diaspora, 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.960 I think. But I went and had a online tutory 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:04.199 and the emphasis is on the s, it's on the 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:08.879 second syllable, So it's diaspora is how you say it. 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.080 Did get a real workout during this tournament, didn't it? 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.320 Because everyone was kind of like, well, Americans aren't gonna 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.359 watch it, and then everyone's like, well no, but diespera 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:19.120 the diaspora will watch it. Yeah, that was definitely one. 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.640 But it did feel it felt a bit Mickey Mouse. 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.359 I mean, there was the I mentioned the travel thing before, 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.520 and I know there were probably good reasons for some 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.440 of this, but it did feel like things are slightly 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:34.000 tilted in favor of a risk in terms of that 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:38.359 New York ground b just things just making it a 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.399 bit easier for India. It did feel like it wasn't 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:45.120 quite an even playing field literally and metaphorically. 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:50.639 Yeah, and the Mickey Mouse reference works well in Mickey 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.480 Mouse's second home, which of course is Florida, where they 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:59.120 had four matches scheduled and unfortunately they got just one 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.040 of the men and that was a real blow I 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:05.960 think for the organizers. I think the shocking state of 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.360 the pitch in. 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:09.960 New York was clearly a blow. 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:13.399 But they still got cricket there at least, and they 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:15.879 still got some actually quite exciting games, not the kind 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.840 of games you would expect at a Teach twenty betting extravaganza, 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.840 but they were still games of cricket that came down 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:24.200 to the wire in some cases. 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:27.800 But Trinidad was an excuseable. 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.160 You're one of the great venues of the world there 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.439 in Queen's Park Oval and yet we play on this 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.280 brand new venual. Might not be brand new, but it's 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:40.760 new enough. And it was just it was poor cricket. 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:43.720 There's no other word to describe it. I didn't think 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:47.399 the cricket in Diana was great, but it was serviceable. 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.639 And I think one of the bonuses for the organizers 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:54.560 was the US playing pretty well. You know, they were 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:56.720 at class once they got to that Super eight stage, 0:19:56.760 --> 0:20:00.520 but there was joy unconfined with the way they went 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:05.880 through the group stage. That was fantastic. An Jones belting 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:10.359 untold sixes and ticks and heartland. 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:16.000 It was great. So I would say, what would I 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.600 give it. I'd probably give it a flat B. 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:22.320 Like I sort of a seven out of ten? Is 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:23.159 that where you going with that? 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.480 Yeah? Probably six point five seven out of ten. I 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:27.399 don't give half max, so yeah, i'd have to give 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:28.680