1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: As far as we're consumed, we're getting a hurk into 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: the region so as to be available to move people 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: when the airspace allows. The Foreign Minister Winston peters with us, 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Winston Morning, good morning. Do you reckon RAN's nuclear capable 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: or close to it? 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: All the signs pointed to getting very close to it? 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: So you believe it? Because Tulsa Gabbard was telling us 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: just the other day she didn't. Then the IAEA is 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: suggesting that, I don't think so, are. 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: They well a level of enrichment which the cap wavy 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 2: on every other negotiative purpose that they gave. I mean 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: some facts are facts? 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Your sense of the claims of success? What do you reckon? 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: How do you mean? 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Well, did they blow up the nuclear capability or not? 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: Oh? Look, at this point in time, we'd be very 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: wise to keep our counsel and find out the facts, 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: get a proper analysis, and ensure that what we are 19 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: talking about is true, because one of the worst things 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: in the first victims of war is truth. And boy 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: we've seen it now with every comment and every excellent 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: expert giving the abuse perverse they are and not in 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: any way right to what's happening on the ground. So yeah, 24 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: I think it real wise to us to keep our 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: counsel and find out what's going on. 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: Do you see regime regime change in a run? 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: I think the problem is that when you've got the 28 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: abcluent destruction of freedom in the society, including from females 29 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: in the society right across the whole Gamber for the 30 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: last forty years, the chance of alternative government stepping up 31 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: seriously restricted. That's the difficulty. I do. I think the majority, 32 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: if you have want regime changees I do. I think 33 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: they're going to give It's very very difficult see it happening. 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a text. See what you say, Mike, if 35 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: you choose to live in Iran or Israel, why should 36 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: the government have to send the cavalry to rescue you. 37 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: What do you say to that? 38 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: Well, you can say that, Mike, and we have been 39 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: given them months in warning and people will carry on 40 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: as before. But it's a new Zealand character. In Zealand way, 41 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: I mean, we tell people to get out of circumstances, 42 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: some done bobb it and still do it. In the 43 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: last moment, we've just gone from forty six people we 44 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: thought we had in a round to now ninety eight 45 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 2: and we're working on now. So the question is, well, 46 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: it's a basier way to help our friends, no, no, how, 47 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: and this advice they might be and we'll be helping 48 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: a lot of other countries as well who are in 49 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: a crisis circumstances well have nobody else to help. We're 50 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: a good international citizen, we've got the resources, so let's 51 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: do what we've always done. 52 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: Appreciate time very much, Winston Peter's Foreign Minister. 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