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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Allen on the mic, asking breakfast with Bailey's

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Speaker 3: Dad B seven pass next morning and welcome to you.

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Speaker 3: Coming up today, Winston Peters is going to be with

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Speaker 3: us to explain what they have been doing for the

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Speaker 3: last year if they haven't been buying us new fairies

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Speaker 3: on drug use, and this is particularly meth and coke,

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Speaker 3: it has basically doubled in a year. So hopefully the

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Speaker 3: Drug Foundation can give us an explanation as for why

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Speaker 3: we've got Julia Dean's of fur patrol and after eight

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Speaker 3: and we're going to go around the world with Joe

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Speaker 3: McKenna and Rod Liddle.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Allen, Well, I think we.

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Speaker 3: Can all see now why the government's announced the fairy

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Speaker 3: decision two weeks before Christmas. A This is embarrassing, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what have they been doing for the last year?

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Speaker 3: How do you go a year from canceling the mega

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Speaker 3: fairies and still have nothing to show for it, No deal,

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Speaker 3: no fairies, no price tag, not even any detail for

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Speaker 3: us on how much we're going to have to pay

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Speaker 3: to break the deal on the Mega fairies. All we've

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Speaker 3: got is room, and if those rumors are right, then

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Speaker 3: we are going to spend more than twice what we

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Speaker 3: were going to spend for those two Mega fairies. We're

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Speaker 3: going to spend more than twice on that to buy

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Speaker 3: two smaller fairies. Those Mega fairies were five hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty million bucks. The medium sized feries that we're probably

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Speaker 3: going to end up with now will apparently cost nine

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Speaker 3: hundred million bucks plus, and you add them the three

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Speaker 3: hundred million dollar break fee for the Mega Fairies, and

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Speaker 3: that's one point two billion dollars more than double. We'd

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Speaker 3: have been better off on these numbers, keeping the big

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Speaker 3: boys and then on selling them and using them to

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Speaker 3: buy the using the money to buy the little ones.

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Speaker 3: Don't expect we waited a year already. Don't expect to

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Speaker 3: get any kind of announcement anytime soon, because it's not

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Speaker 3: going to be apparently until the second half of next

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Speaker 3: year before we actually know what's happening. And we're going

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Speaker 3: to have to wait five years for these bad boys

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Speaker 3: to actually hit the water. And the thing about this

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Speaker 3: is that time is of the essence, because it's not

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Speaker 3: as if our existing fairies are doing well. They're running

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Speaker 3: on hopes and prayers and masking tape. By the looks

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Speaker 3: of things. We've had one floating without power and the

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Speaker 3: Cook Strait already. That's very dangerous. And we've had another

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Speaker 3: one running around on a sandy beach and you don't

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Speaker 3: need me to tell you again that's very dangerous. And

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Speaker 3: then there are various other weird little mishaps have been

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Speaker 3: going on as well. Now. To be fair to the

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Speaker 3: National led government, I don't think that the Mega Fairies

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Speaker 3: were the solution. I don't think it's a smart idea

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Speaker 3: to chuck an entire trade on a boat and then

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Speaker 3: send it across the water. I mean, if you thought

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Speaker 3: about how heavi a train is. But I'm starting to

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Speaker 3: feel like this deal, whatever it is, could be actually

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Speaker 3: worse than the Mega Fairies deal. And I'm starting to

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Speaker 3: think that this might make the Mega Fairies deal look

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Speaker 3: like value for money, and that is not a great outcome,

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Speaker 3: by the way, especially for the Nats and nikoliwillis because

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Speaker 3: the pair of them have told us they great at

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Speaker 3: striking deals, they really great at managing money. Well, what

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Speaker 3: we're seeing so far does not look like that at all.

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Speaker 1: What news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: So after denying it yesterday, Israel has confirmed it has

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Speaker 3: struck Syria's naval fleet.

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Speaker 4: They've taken a strategic decision to absolutely destroy the land,

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Speaker 4: air and sea capability of the Syrians, and this means

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Speaker 4: that essentially they've bombed them back to the stone aie

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Speaker 4: in military capability terms.

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Speaker 3: Over in the States, support is absolutely pouring in for

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Speaker 3: the CEO Killer and this is for him taking a

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Speaker 3: stand against big health insurance companies.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, it's beautiful and I agree with him.

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Speaker 6: At least he left a very powerful message and he

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Speaker 6: highlighted how terrible the healthcare system is America. I think

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Speaker 6: they'll go down as a hero in history.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty weird turn of events. Over in the UK,

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Speaker 3: farmers have ramped up their protest over the inheritance tax

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Speaker 3: changes by blocking central London streets.

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Speaker 7: Fight.

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Speaker 8: We will miss the Starmer.

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Speaker 5: We will not sit back and let you destroy what

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Speaker 5: we've worked for. The People of this country care where

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Speaker 5: their food comes from, and they.

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Speaker 9: Care who grows it.

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Speaker 5: Why the hell don Neumitsu Starma.

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Speaker 3: Water off a ducks back for the Prome minster, though.

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Speaker 5: In a typical family case, the threshold is three million

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Speaker 5: pounds and therefore the vast majority of farmers will be unaffected,

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Speaker 5: despite the fear membering of the party opposite.

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Speaker 3: Now, we still aren't sure why there were dozens of

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Speaker 3: drone sightings and you know what I'm talking about, these

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Speaker 3: ones across New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Bublic safety at risk. We just don't know. And that's

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Speaker 1: the concerning part.

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Speaker 10: You're telling me, we don't know what the hell these

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Speaker 10: drones are in New Jersey?

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Speaker 1: Are is that coright?

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Speaker 7: That's right?

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Speaker 3: There are, of course, and this will be no surprise

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Speaker 3: to you. Some conspiracy theories, including from the special ops

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Speaker 3: drone expert government officials. They need to stop saying there

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Speaker 3: is no known threat unless they really know that. It's

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Speaker 3: a disservice to the American people who are rightfully concerned

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Speaker 3: because I know firsthand the damage that drones can do. Finally,

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Speaker 3: Nigel Richards has done it again. Now yeah, okay, if

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Speaker 3: you're wondering who the hell is Nigel Richard's fair enough.

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Speaker 3: Nigel is actually a Kiwi and Nigel is regarded as

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Speaker 3: the best scrabble player in the world, and he's got

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Speaker 3: himself the nickname the Tiger Woods of scrabble. In twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 3: he went viral because he won the French World Scrabble

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Speaker 3: Champs even though he couldn't speak French. All he did

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Speaker 3: on to win it multiple times since twenty fifteen, and

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Speaker 3: he's done it again now, this time being declared the

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Speaker 3: Spanish Scrabble World Champ after studying the language for only

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Speaker 3: a year. His Spanish opponent in the finals said, quite rightly,

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Speaker 3: an incredible humiliation to write over in New Zealand, not

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Speaker 3: known for multiple languages, and yet look at the sky.

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Speaker 3: Go Nigel Richards. Listen if you're wondering, I was certainly wondering,

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Speaker 3: well when we were gonna hear from the North Koreans

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Speaker 3: on the South Korean Marshal Law Snath who finally, finally

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Speaker 3: we've heard something. They've mocked South Korea, as you would imagine,

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Speaker 3: called Rodong Sinmung. Just in case you want to look

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Speaker 3: it up, page six, by the way, it's the article

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Speaker 3: you'll find it there. They've called the Martial law declaration

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Speaker 3: an insane Act said the president brazenly brandished blades and

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Speaker 3: him of trying to run a fascist dictatorship, all of

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Speaker 3: which is kind of I'm not sure if they're meaning

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Speaker 3: of course that would be exactly what Kim Jong un

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Speaker 2: Thirteen past six, the mic asking breakfast All Show podcast

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Speaker 2: on a hard radio call it Blay News Talks Evy.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good news for ZESPRI yesterday. I've been keeping an

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Speaker 3: potentially quite important for them. They finally got a bit

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Speaker 3: of a win, managed to get the farmers, the growers

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Speaker 3: rather to agree to let the growers overseas grow full ZESPR.

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Speaker 3: And so when we're talking about overseas, we're talking about Italy, Japan,

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Speaker 3: this this as ZESPRI, took it to the grows a

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Speaker 3: couple of years ago, didn't get anywhere with it. Well,

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Speaker 3: going to start expanding. Now, sixteen past six Andrew callahana JMI.

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Speaker 3: Wealth is the US morning, Andrew, how's that inflation in

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Speaker 3: the US?

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Speaker 11: Looking to you on expectations is what we would say. So, yeah,

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Speaker 11: we looked at inflation.

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Speaker 12: In China earlier this week and we had the other

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Speaker 12: big guy last night. So US CPI inflation figures released

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Speaker 12: now had the CPI inflation. It's not the Central Bank,

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Speaker 12: the Federal Reserves FAY measure inflation. That's what's called the

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Speaker 12: PCEE inflation or Personal Consumption Expenditure Index.

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Speaker 11: But it's still very closely watched.

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Speaker 12: So for the record zero point three percent for the month,

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Speaker 12: two point seven percent for the year, we're coming in

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Speaker 12: New Zealand.

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Speaker 11: Slightly lower than that at the moment.

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Speaker 12: A core CPI so that's ex food and energy, that

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Speaker 12: was also at point three percent for the month, but

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Speaker 12: three point three percent for the year.

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Speaker 12: Now, as I said, outcomes are very much on expectations.

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Speaker 12: The bigger picture issue had I guess for financial markets

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Speaker 12: is that the disinflationary trend, all sort of inflation falling

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Speaker 12: potentially stalling in the US, So inflation just isn't dropping anymore,

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Speaker 12: sort of a wildcut as to what he does. There's

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Speaker 12: almost one percent. The nazac's kind of loving it. It's

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Speaker 12: one on three quarter percent, so that's all good. We

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Speaker 12: under the fifty eight cent mark. So all on expectations, I.

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Speaker 3: Would say, and so would you say, just back at

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Speaker 3: roughly what you would expect.

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Speaker 11: Ah, yeah, but it's just weak.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 12: We have this big data dump yesday from Stats New Zealand.

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Speaker 12: So this is business financial data. Lots of numbers here

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Speaker 12: if you trawl through that, I'm just going to focus

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Speaker 12: on the manufacturing data. We get the BNZI Business New

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Speaker 12: and pertinent. Manufacturer has been weak. It's in a slump.

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Speaker 12: Would love to see some life here. Just this manufacturing

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Speaker 12: GDP for the third quarter next week. But in the

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Speaker 12: September quarter the volume of total manufacturing sales fell one

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Speaker 3: Good stuff. Andrew and julir Day, Thanks May Andrew, callaher

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Speaker 3: The government aren't used car salesman. This is read the fairies.

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Speaker 3: is not going to save them. It's called polo and

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Speaker 10: Lgen going on a course at thirty five miles an

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Speaker 13: It's glamorous. It's a sexy sport too dirty, sweaty boys riding.

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Speaker 14: I started traveling back and forth origents, you know, twice

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Speaker 3: When do you come back?

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Speaker 3: Reviews are in two stars out of five on average.

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Speaker 3: it's destined to fall into obscurity. Telegraph calls it a

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Speaker 3: time on that. Hey, we're going to talk to Todd

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so's something funny is going on with our drug use.

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Speaker 3: It's predicted that our food and fiber exports are set

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Speaker 3: good morning, Heather, Thank goodness with the farmer's name.

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Speaker 10: They're doing a great job because we know they work

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Speaker 7: It's really good for the New Zealand economy.

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Speaker 3: We know that Kiwi fruit is doing as well as well.

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Speaker 10: It's interesting we've seen the commodity price start to increase.

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Speaker 10: woolen carpets everywhere through their buildings, so it shows is

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Speaker 3: Is that weird that the Indians are using our wool

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Speaker 3: farmers that they're not going to lend to them unless

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Speaker 3: the farmers get their emissions down to a certain level.

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about them being the climate police.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well they should not be.

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Speaker 10: And I see one of the Australian banks has a

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Speaker 10: view that New Zealand farmers need to do more than

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Speaker 10: Australian farm Yes, they're welcome to that view, but they

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Speaker 10: should keep it to themselves and look at ways to

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Speaker 10: get interest rights down for farmers and you know, make

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Speaker 10: them be productive. However, there is a wider point here

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Speaker 10: is that we do have international obligations. We do have

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Speaker 10: to meet them because you know, consumers around the world

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Speaker 10: of customers are demanding this. Having said that, we have

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Speaker 10: to find ways to get emissions down without closing down farms,

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Speaker 10: because otherwise all we do is send those jobs and

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Speaker 10: production overseas. And we're really clear that one we've got

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Speaker 10: a plan to do that with farmers and two we're

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Speaker 10: not going to be closing down farms in New Zealand,

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Speaker 10: so American and European farmers can do more good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Todd, Thanks very much, Todd McLay, Agriculture Ustry Minister. Hopefully

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Speaker 3: the banks were listening to that and by the way

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Speaker 3: we are going to talk. I've got I've got an

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Speaker 3: update on the banks and all the benz and stuff

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Speaker 3: that's been going on. It's eighteen away from seven to two.

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Speaker 1: Sellen.

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Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia you'll have been seen, you'll have seen has

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Speaker 3: been announced today as the host of the twenty thirty

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Speaker 3: four feet for World Cup, and woohoo. People are going

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Speaker 3: to lose their minds about it, aren't they, because it's

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Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia very bad people. Anyway, you

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Speaker 3: want to see it. We'll get to that because we're

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Speaker 3: going to talk about that at some stage. But you

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Speaker 3: want to see the stadia that these guys are building

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Speaker 3: for the World Cup. They've only built I think four

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Speaker 3: of them already. They're gonna have fifteen in total. And

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Speaker 3: it is mad stuff, right, So one of them that

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you some of the maddest ones in

476
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Speaker 3: red in the Capitol where eight of them are gonna be.

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Speaker 3: They've got the King Salman International Stadium that they're gonna build.

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Speaker 3: And the idea here is that the arena blends in

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Speaker 3: seamlessly with the mountainous environment. It basically looks like a

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Speaker 3: button popping out of the ground. So you've got all

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Speaker 3: the like, got all the kind of foliage and strips

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Speaker 3: of forestry and stuff like that, and then whip up

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Speaker 3: goes over the top of the stadium. She'll be walking

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Speaker 3: up to basically what just looks like a little hobbit hole,

485
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Speaker 3: like a little lump in the ground. It's not a

486
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Speaker 3: hobbit hole. It can hold tens of thousands of people.

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Speaker 3: Madness rating on that one would be an eight out

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Speaker 3: of ten. There's another one that's going to be somewhere

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Speaker 3: nearby as well. It's called the King for Hard Sports

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Speaker 3: City Stadium. It's basically a massive tent. It's got like

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Speaker 3: about twenty four masts. Each of them goes up fifty

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Speaker 3: eight meters high. Just looks like a CNM and E

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Speaker 3: or something like that. Madness rating is a bit lower

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Speaker 3: on that. That's a six. The Prince Muhammad bin Salman

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Speaker 3: Stadium that they're going to build capacity forty seven thousand,

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Speaker 3: completely mental perched on the side of a cliff two

497
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Speaker 3: hundred meters above the ground. I think the one side

498
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Speaker 3: is kind of hanging over the side of the cliffs.

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Speaker 3: I don't know you're going to feel about that. Sitting

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Speaker 3: in that. That's a madness rating of eight out of ten.

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Speaker 3: There's the one called the Russian Stadium, which looks like

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Speaker 3: a crunchy bar that's been Oh and actually that one's

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Speaker 3: made entirely of a keesha bark, I think. Then there

504
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Speaker 3: is another one that looks entirely like a crunchy bar

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Speaker 3: that's been dropped. It completely mad. But the maddest of

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Speaker 3: all of them, I think is, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you've been keeping an eye on what's going on with

508
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Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia and that big city that they're building, which

509
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Speaker 3: is just a line in the desert. They're putting a

510
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Speaker 3: stadium there. So if you've been like I'd like to

511
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Speaker 3: go and have a look at that city, you have

512
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Speaker 3: the opportunity now in twenty thirty four when you go there.

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Speaker 3: It's called the Neam Stadium. Three hundred and fifty meters

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Speaker 3: above the ground. You've got the city in the line

515
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Speaker 3: stadium in the middle of the line. One side there's

516
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Speaker 3: a desert, other side there's a man made harbor. Madness

517
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Speaker 3: rating on that fully nine out of ten.

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Speaker 2: I've been trying to figure out what all these things

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Speaker 2: remind me of, and then it finally came to me.

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Speaker 16: Five.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of things that the Thunderbirds three, you know,

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Speaker 2: the twol the paltry.

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Speaker 3: Splits of half it fully is and then they just

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Speaker 3: explode out of it with a stadium, except instead of

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Speaker 3: the Thunderbirds coming out, it's just a bunch of football

526
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Speaker 3: players and people. It's going to be mad. It's probably

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Speaker 3: going to be worth going just to have a look

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Speaker 3: at that quarter of the seven.

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Speaker 2: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: by News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Said, hither the jump in the drug levels probably explains

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Speaker 3: to some extent the drop of the drinking across New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Most people doing meth either taper or don't drink it all.

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Speaker 3: It's hardly a cause for celebration things. So that pulled

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Speaker 3: twelve away from seven.

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Speaker 2: International Correspondence with NS and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 2: for New Zealand Business with.

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Speaker 3: John McKenna, our correspondent to Italy with US Morning Joe,

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Speaker 3: Good morning Heather. So we've got another one of these

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Speaker 3: migrant boats, in this time only one survivor.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 16: We haven't really heard too much about the migrant boats lately,

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Speaker 16: but this is a really tragic story. A young girl

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Speaker 16: believed to be about ten or eleven was rescued off

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Speaker 16: the coast of Sicily. She's believed to be the only

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Speaker 16: survivor on a boat that was carrying forty five migrants

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Speaker 16: from Tunisia. Many of them had come from other countries

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Speaker 16: and were traveling across the Mediterranean trying to get to Europe.

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Speaker 16: She was rescued after a couple of days at sea,

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Speaker 16: and rescuers were really shocked to find her there, kept

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Speaker 16: afloat by a life fest an in a tubes wrapped

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Speaker 16: around her body.

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Speaker 3: That's terrible, as really sad. Do we know how many

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Speaker 3: people were on board this boat.

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Speaker 16: Well, we know that there were forty five on board.

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Speaker 16: But we've had other a migrant. We've had other migrant arrivals.

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Speaker 16: In the last couple of hours, the last twenty four hours,

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Speaker 16: three hundred and fifty six migrants landing on the island

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Speaker 16: of lamp Producer, off the coast of Sicily. And what's

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Speaker 16: interesting here, Heather, is we've had sixty four thousand migrant

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Speaker 16: arrivals in Italy this year, which sounds like a lot,

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Speaker 16: but that compares with one hundred and fifty thousand for

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Speaker 16: the same period last year, so they're still coming, but

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Speaker 16: it seems that they're getting the message that the Italian

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Speaker 16: government is not as welcoming as it might have been

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Speaker 16: in the past.

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Speaker 3: Hey, speaking of the government, tell me, what do you

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Speaker 3: make of Maloney being ranked the most powerful woman in Europe?

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Speaker 16: Well, that's interesting, isn't it. She's certainly got a nice

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Speaker 16: endorsement from Politico the magazine. But more importantly, she was

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Speaker 16: anointed again by President elect Donald Trump at the weekend

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Speaker 16: when they met at the reopening of Notre Dame in Paris,

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Speaker 16: and he described her as a real live wire with

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Speaker 16: a lot of energy, and that sort of endorsement I

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Speaker 16: think is really important to her at the moment, positioning

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Speaker 16: herself as a leader in Europe. We've got weakness in

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Speaker 16: the political scene in France and in Germany, so she's

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Speaker 16: really emerging as a very powerful leader in European politics.

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Speaker 3: Does it work in Europe to be endorsed by Donald Trump?

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Speaker 16: Look in this case, I think it's important because it's controversial,

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Speaker 16: of course, but I think everyone's looking to Trump to

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Speaker 16: try and keep the Natal Alliance afloat in particular, and

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Speaker 16: keep those defense and political relationships intact because he has

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Speaker 16: made threats. He has criticized European governments for not committing

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Speaker 16: more money to defense, relying too much on the US,

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Speaker 16: and they really want to strengthen that relationship and ensure

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Speaker 16: that it continues into the future without too many surprises.

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Speaker 3: You good stuff, Hey, Joe, thanks so much for talking

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Speaker 3: us through that. Joe McKenna o Italy corresponding kind of

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Speaker 3: on the subject of Versaly, but it's really tenuous. I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to lie. Coffee. You can see what I've

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Speaker 3: done there, right Coffee price isn't basically actually better to

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Speaker 3: say to you if you're thinking about having your coffee,

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Speaker 3: brace yourself for this, because the international prices have hit

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Speaker 3: their highest level on record. The price for Arabica beans,

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Speaker 3: which is basically mostly what we drink around the world,

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Speaker 3: has just hit US dollars three dollars forty four a pound.

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Speaker 3: Now that's not going to mean a lot to you,

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Speaker 3: but what I can tell you is it's up eighty

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Speaker 3: percent in just this year, so you can see it's

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Speaker 3: getting close to double right now. Up to now, what's

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Speaker 3: been going on as the coffee roasters have been absorbing

603
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Speaker 3: all of these price increases but it's probably getting to

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Speaker 3: about their limit, and so apparently they're going to put

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Speaker 3: them up and we the consumer are about to be stung.

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Speaker 3: No way does that make it more or less expensive

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Speaker 3: than myth. I'm just wearing. I don't know, Dleams, what's

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Speaker 3: your knowledge on the price of myth?

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Speaker 2: Well, the most recent thing I heard was that I

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Speaker 2: thought drugs was the price of drugs was coming down.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm just not a fae with the price

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Speaker 3: of myth. But I think actually we could probably ask

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Speaker 3: the Drug Foundation if next time they're doing the meth

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Speaker 3: testing for the wheeze, they can do the coffee testing

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Speaker 3: as well. We'll probably find an answer to that one.

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Speaker 3: Go for your coffee instead. Then it's getting close closer priced,

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Speaker 3: maybe eight away from seven and.

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Speaker 2: The duplicy Allen on the my costing break lift with

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Speaker 2: al Vida Retirement Communities News togs Head.

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Speaker 3: B big day for Microsoft. I don't know you remember

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Speaker 3: you might remember this. Cast your mind back a couple

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Speaker 3: of years ago and they were building that big data

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Speaker 3: center in West Aalkland. They finally got onto it three

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Speaker 3: hundred million dollars by the way, at least to build it.

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Speaker 3: Finally got onto finishing it and I think it opens

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Speaker 3: today's We'll have a chat to them after seven o'clock.

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Speaker 3: It's five away from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the ins and the ouse.

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Speaker 2: It's the beerz with business Fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 2: to the next level.

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Speaker 3: It's got a bit of housing porn for you. Because

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Speaker 3: it's been a big year for the housing market. There

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Speaker 3: was a honeymoon period after the government got into its work,

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Speaker 3: which is slowly tape it off and then lead to

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Speaker 3: more properties declining and value. So property prices have dropped

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Speaker 3: five percent since February. Auckland and Wellington the hardest hit,

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Speaker 3: christ Church and dened and the most resilient. This year

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Speaker 3: first home buyers made up about twenty eight percent of

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Speaker 3: the market, which is good and all of this is

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Speaker 3: part of core Logic's Best to the Best for twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four reports. So what have we got? Queensund despite

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Speaker 3: it going through the roof, Herne Bay in Auckland is

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Speaker 3: still the country's most expensive suburb average value of three

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Speaker 3: point three six mil. Arrowtown the only suburb outside the

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Speaker 3: top ten, sitting in a fifth with the median value

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Speaker 3: of two point three to nine mil. Most expensive house

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Speaker 3: sold was in Iraqi in Auckland twenty one point eight

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Speaker 3: million dollars cheapest household, though also in Auckland fifty thousand

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Speaker 3: for a two bedroom, one bathroom apartment also had an

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Speaker 3: eighty thousand dollar bill though to repair water damage amongst

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Speaker 3: other things. Best regions for growth were Blaketown in Graymouth, Caaikoda, Cobden,

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Speaker 3: which is also in Graymouth. In fact, Cobden has been

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Speaker 3: going gangbusters for five years now since where you want

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Speaker 3: to go growth of a hundred an eight point eight

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Speaker 3: percent in that time. Metoda and Southland had the highest

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Speaker 3: gross rent will yield at almost eleven percent, followed by

657
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Speaker 3: Wellington Central at nine percent. Whitford and Auckland had the

658
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Speaker 3: lowest rens will yield at only one point two percent,

659
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Speaker 3: and Auckland Central has the worst five year average value

660
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Speaker 3: rate at negative nine point one. And moving on from

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Speaker 3: that really quickly because nobody needs that on that Faery decision,

662
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Speaker 3: Just really quick explanation for what might have been going

663
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Speaker 3: on here, because you have been hearing rumors that there's

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Speaker 3: nine hundred million dollars for two fairies medium sized, blah

665
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Speaker 3: blah blah, and then they announced nothing yesterday. What may

666
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Speaker 3: be going on is that Nikola Willis has hammered out

667
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Speaker 3: the steal nine hundred million for two fairies, but they

668
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Speaker 3: don't have rail enablement, and so when he's asked if

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Speaker 3: he can try and get rail to the fairies for

670
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Speaker 3: the same price with rail enablement. Anyway, I talk to

671
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Speaker 3: Winston after half past seven sep. We can clarify that.

672
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Speaker 3: Don Braid, Main Freight next fine.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast show You Can Trust Canther Dup c Allen

674
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Speaker 2: on the mic hosting Breakfast the range rover Villa designed

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Speaker 2: to intrigue and use dogs.

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Speaker 3: That'd be morning to you. So straight to that fairy

677
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: announcement yesterday that actually told us very little. It is

678
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Speaker 3: being reported this morning that actually there is a deal

679
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Speaker 3: to buy two fairies. Nikola Willis is hammered it out

680
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Speaker 3: sometime in the last year, but nothing's been announced because

681
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Speaker 3: Winston Peters first wants to see if he can strike

682
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Speaker 3: a better deal. First, Main Freights managing director Don Braid

683
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Speaker 3: is with us. Now morning Don, Good morning Heather.

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Speaker 13: Don.

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Speaker 3: Now if this is the case, if it is true

686
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Speaker 3: what's being reported, then probably what's going on is Winston

687
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Speaker 3: still wants to try and find some fairies that are

688
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Speaker 3: rail enabled. Is that important to you to have them

689
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Speaker 3: rail enabled?

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Speaker 14: The railed enabled, rail compatible to play on words, isn't it?

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Speaker 14: At least they're acknowledging that rail has a role to

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Speaker 14: play in the movement of freight across the country. And

693
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Speaker 14: I think the other good thing is to have a

694
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Speaker 14: Minister for Rail is a good thing. We at least

695
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 14: they've got someone inside the government that thinks about rail,

696
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Speaker 14: that is happy about using rail and investing in rail,

697
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Speaker 14: whereas previously you have to say that they're all road focused.

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Speaker 3: Were you expecting a little bit more than we got

699
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Speaker 3: yesterday though?

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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, of course we were. And you know, will

701
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Speaker 14: we find that the March's deadline will come and go

702
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Speaker 14: as well? Likely? I mean, I think it's sort of

703
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Speaker 14: the behavior of this current government that things are delayed. However,

704
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Speaker 14: I mean, if what you are saying is right, that

705
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Speaker 14: they have actually managed to do a deal, will then

706
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Speaker 14: there is at least a plan in place and they're underway.

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Speaker 14: That's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're still having to wait another five years

709
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Speaker 3: until twenty twenty nine to get these bad boys on

710
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Speaker 3: the water. How do you feel about that?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, but it was always going to be that case. Anyway,

713
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Speaker 14: I think it was going to take some time. And

714
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Speaker 14: can we rail a confident that they think they can

715
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Speaker 14: get this current lot through to twenty nine with the

716
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Speaker 14: investment that they're making and maintenance, so you know, and

717
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Speaker 14: if you read between some of the lines in terms

718
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Speaker 14: of Nikola Willis's announcement, you know there has been a

719
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Speaker 14: lot of work done supposedly with shipyards saying that they

720
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Speaker 14: can get these things in place by twenty nine. Well,

721
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Speaker 14: if that's the case, then at least we know that's underway.

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Speaker 3: Imagine yourself as the Minister of rail. What's your dream plan?

723
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Speaker 3: What would you buy?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

725
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Speaker 14: I mean, I think the mistake made by Kiwi Rail

726
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Speaker 14: is that when those costs ballooned out to three or

727
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Speaker 14: whatever it is, four billion, they should have rethought the

728
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Speaker 14: process and you know, taking a step back and gone

729
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Speaker 14: to something that's more efficient. But we certainly need rather

730
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Speaker 14: than this country, I'd be investing in below the line

731
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Speaker 14: and making sure that above the line the thing makes money.

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Speaker 3: You're good to talk to. You don't always is, Thank

733
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Speaker 3: you very much, Don Brad mainfre It's managing direct down

734
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Speaker 3: by the way. Winston Peters is with us after half

735
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Speaker 3: past seven. It's ten past Heather do for see Ala

736
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Speaker 3: drug use has skyrocketed in the last few months. The

737
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Speaker 3: latest wastewater samples and quarter three of this year show

738
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Speaker 3: that New Zealand is using more than twice as much

739
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Speaker 3: meth as the same time year, so it's more than

740
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Speaker 3: doubled and cocaine use is also at an all time high.

741
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Speaker 3: Drug Foundation Executive director Sarah Halber's with us morning, Sarah,

742
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Speaker 3: good morning. What's happened? Why are more? Is it a

743
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Speaker 3: case of more people using the drugs or the same

744
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Speaker 3: number of people using more of the drugs?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, with cocaine we have had an increase and then

746
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Speaker 6: number of people consuming it. But with messamphetamine we don't

747
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Speaker 6: believe that has been the case. So we obviously the

748
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Speaker 6: wastewold only tells us how much has been consumed. We

749
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Speaker 6: have to look at other data sources and our own

750
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Speaker 6: networks and what we're anecdotally hearing hasn't been a growth

751
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Speaker 6: in the number of people consuming this. So this is

752
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Speaker 6: a small number of people potentially consuming a lot more

753
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Speaker 6: of it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you've got the same number of

755
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Speaker 3: people doubling their use, that means some people are going

756
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Speaker 3: to get very sick, doesn't it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we are really consumed that we'll be seeing a

758
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Speaker 6: very acute harms, hospitalized sessions, psychosis, heart health is juice

759
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Speaker 6: and our growth of addiction. Both of these substances represent

760
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Speaker 6: our more sort of harmful and addictive end of the spectrum.

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Speaker 3: Why is this happening, Sarah? Because I would have thought

762
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Speaker 3: that in a recession, actually we can't afford as much,

763
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Speaker 3: so drug you should go down, shouldn't it.

764
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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Well, two things.

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Speaker 6: There's been a massive increase in global supply, particularly in cocaine.

767
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Speaker 6: They've been a lot better at producing cocaine as a

768
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Speaker 6: way of getting around our sort of ban and police approach.

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Speaker 6: And with them fetter men, I understand there's more supply

770
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Speaker 6: chains and unlike other markets we say prices rejuice and

771
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Speaker 6: actually there's a wed thing that can happen. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I'm drawing some conclusions here, but with them better men

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Speaker 6: suppresses appetite. So also, you know, for people who are struggling,

774
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Speaker 6: that actually might have a reverse impact.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Hey Sarah, thanks very much. Sarah, help

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Speaker 3: Drug Foundation executive director.

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Speaker 1: Get a dupe.

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Speaker 3: You've listening this week, You'll know we've been talking about

779
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 3: the banks a fair bit because the banks have been

780
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: busted being the old moral police, self appointed, haven't they

781
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 3: of late? Now, one of the things that we were

782
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: talking about was the fact that the B and Z

783
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Speaker 3: has decided not to open accounts for a couple of

784
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Speaker 3: ladies who are running a business. And the reason they're

785
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Speaker 3: not going to open accounts for a couple of ladies

786
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Speaker 3: running a business is because these particular ladies run a

787
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Speaker 3: sex toy shop and apparently the B and z's got

788
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: a massive problem with that. Now, the B and Z

789
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 3: went before the Banking Inquiry, the Select Committee yesterday, as

790
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 3: all the banks, the major banks are doing and it

791
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: was their turn yesterday and they admitted this is the

792
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Speaker 3: CEO admitted that it was the wrong thing to do

793
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Speaker 3: to refuse these ladies accounts. It blamed the computers, so

794
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: it was the computer's problem. Said, we've got an automated process.

795
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: This is our online processes to make it simple and

796
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: easy to onboard customers and sometimes we need to have

797
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: a bigger conversation with them. But in that case we

798
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: didn't get it right, and sometimes we don't get it right. Now,

799
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Speaker 3: I mean, whatever, blame the computers if you want to,

800
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 3: but the computers are set up to say no to

801
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 3: the sex toy businesses anyway. Anyway, because of all the publicity,

802
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: BNZ is now ashamed of itself and it's been in

803
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 3: touch with the girls to try to fix the situation

804
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Speaker 3: and open accounts for the girls. The trouble is everybody

805
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: else has been in touch with the girls as well,

806
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 3: haven't they. So west PAC's been in touch a and

807
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: z's been in touch and the girls by the like

808
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: of other looks of things quite like the look of Westpac,

809
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: So I think they're going to go with Westpac on this.

810
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 3: So BNZ has completely lost that one. So don't be

811
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Speaker 3: going to be in Z by the looks of things,

812
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: if you're running anything with the word is ex in

813
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: your business anyway. Also, don't forget BNZ has been busted

814
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 3: with the gas stations, and we talked about that yesterday.

815
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: But asking the gas station owners to pay back all

816
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 3: the money that they owe them in six years and

817
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: I've got an explanation for why that is. And you're

818
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: going to be fascinated by this. We'll deal with it

819
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 3: in the next half hour or so. Fourteen past seven.

820
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Speaker 2: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show Podcast on iHeartRadio Howard

821
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Speaker 2: by News Talk set B.

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Speaker 3: Somewhat unbelievably, this is a quick update on that Chap

823
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: who is accused of shooting the healthcare insurance CEO in

824
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Speaker 3: the States. Somewhat Unbelievably, he's actually planning to plead not

825
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 3: guilty to these charges, despite the fact that I mean,

826
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 3: you know, everybody's made up their minds and I think

827
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: he's the guy. Anyway, he's going to have a bit

828
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: of it. He's going to be pushing it uphill by

829
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: the looks of things, because police have also found a

830
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: positive match between his fingerprints and then also the fingerprints

831
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Speaker 3: at the scene. Never mind the fact that he looks

832
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 3: like the guy did the shooting, and he's also had

833
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: a gun in his possession. But anyway, best of luck

834
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Speaker 3: to him trying to defend that one. Seventeen past seven.

835
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Speaker 3: Now it's launch day for Microsoft. They've got that big

836
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Speaker 3: Hyperscale data center. The thing costs more than three hundred

837
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Speaker 3: million dollars to build. It's out in West Auckland, and

838
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Speaker 3: Microsoft reckons it's going to help upscale more than one

839
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 3: hundred thousand workers here in New Zealand. Now, Vanessa Sorenson

840
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Speaker 3: as the managing director of Microsoft in the country, have Vanessa, Hello,

841
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Speaker 3: how are you well? Thank you. What's the benefit of

842
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: having this thing actually in New Zealand because the Internet

843
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 3: is sort of borderless, right, so does it make the

844
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: cloud faster for us or something like that?

845
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 15: One percent no latency. It's basically going to supercharge the

846
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 15: country's digital transformation and it's going to help accelerate that

847
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 15: enhance date a red evidency, security and compliance.

848
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: And so how long have we got before we max

849
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Speaker 3: it out and we need another one?

850
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Speaker 15: No one needs to worry about that. We've certainly built

851
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 15: robust with you know, ten to twenty years in mind

852
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 15: and saying that New Zealand is an incredible country to

853
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 15: invest in. And so we have brought more land to expand.

854
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 3: Now you have Bootball land to expand what like, Yeah, adjacent, it's.

855
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Speaker 15: Never adjacent, but certainly within the region. And yeah, we're

856
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Speaker 15: just because of the incredible contract with Contact Energy and

857
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 15: the sustainability angle. Using geo thermal is just another incredible

858
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 15: opportunity as more and more businesses want to move from

859
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 15: unsustainable infrastructure into incredible, reliable, sustainable infrastructure. So, yeah, it's amazing.

860
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Speaker 3: I was going to ask you about the power because

861
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: these things are really power hungry a and we are,

862
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 3: i mean incredibly short of power weirdly in New Zealand

863
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 3: at the moment. So have you got yourselves a good

864
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: deal locked in?

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Speaker 15: We certainly have. So we've just we've signed a ten

866
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Speaker 15: year contract which is basically with us doing that, it's

867
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Speaker 15: enabled Contact Energy to invest by expanding a tie hooker

868
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Speaker 15: a three power station so they can generate fifty one

869
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Speaker 15: point four megawatts of reliable and renewable energy throughout the year.

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Speaker 15: So what I'm what's incredible about this? It's you know,

871
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Speaker 15: it has been our mission to replenish more water and

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Speaker 15: than it consumes. And our data center will be the

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Speaker 15: first or be one hundred percent water free as well.

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Speaker 15: So you know, not only is it going to be

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Speaker 15: the most sustainable where we're putting energy back on the grid,

876
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Speaker 15: but it's highly highly sustainable. So incredibly proud of this.

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Speaker 3: Why do you choose to base yourselves in west Aukland

878
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Speaker 3: Because I can't imagine that that is cheap land.

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Speaker 15: Look, it's all about ensuring that it's not in a floodplaine,

880
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Speaker 15: that it's not you know, we're a very movable country

881
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Speaker 15: in terms of earthquakes and the like. So certainly before

882
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Speaker 15: I was able to anounce this incredible investment four years ago,

883
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Speaker 15: we had a team scouting New Zealand for a good

884
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Speaker 15: eighteen months to work out the best location access. You know,

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Speaker 15: we look at everything about even making sure you can

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Speaker 15: get to it if something happened to motorways and things

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Speaker 15: like that.

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Speaker 14: So there's a real art.

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Speaker 15: And science to where we decide to purchase land.

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Speaker 3: Oh I see, okay, all right, now, explain to me

891
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Speaker 3: how this is going to benefit one hundred thousand workers.

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Speaker 3: How does that work?

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Speaker 15: Well, I mean, look at the acceleration right, we're certainly ai.

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Speaker 15: I mean that wasn't even in the picture when we

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Speaker 15: when we look launched that we were coming. But it's

896
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Speaker 15: just we've seen this in every single country that we launch,

897
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Speaker 15: and I think this is what our opportunity is for

898
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Speaker 15: New Zealand using it to upskill and so we're investing

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Speaker 15: a lot of money and training and enablement. I'm very

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Speaker 15: proud of our ten k Women initiative, which was.

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Speaker 14: Over a couple of years.

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Speaker 15: We wanted to basically have ten thousand women be accredited

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Speaker 15: consider a role in tear earn more money and that's

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Speaker 15: been incredible. So now we're going to extend that to

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Speaker 15: one hundred thousand learners by twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 13: We're just going to be.

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Speaker 15: Free certification training. You can go up to certain levels,

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Speaker 15: and we feel that then there's more high powered, paying

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Speaker 15: jobs basically for people. So it's really what we have seen.

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Speaker 15: And an IBC report basically stated that you know, this

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Speaker 15: cloud adoption is going to be twenty three point nine

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Speaker 15: billion in revenue for New Zealand, which is about six

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Speaker 15: percent of GDP, and they said it will create about

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Speaker 15: one hundred and thirty four thousand new jobs across cloud

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Speaker 15: adopting organizations and service providers.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant stuff. Hey, Anissa, thanks for running us through it.

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Speaker 1: Hither dupic allen seven.

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Speaker 3: Now as I was telling you earlier. As expected, Saudi

946
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Speaker 3: Arabia has been announced as the hosts of the twenty

947
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Speaker 3: thirty four FIFA of Football World Cup. Not at all

948
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Speaker 3: a surprise. Everybody knew this was going to happen. Critics

949
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Speaker 3: are already they were getting ready to lose their minds,

950
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Speaker 3: and they are losing their minds. They're accusing FIFA of

951
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Speaker 3: sealing perhaps the most craven sellout in the history of sport.

952
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Speaker 3: They're angry because FIFA signed up a country that's accused

953
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Speaker 3: of killing the Washington Post journalist Kamal Jamal Kashogi, of

954
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Speaker 3: treating its women terribly, not even being known as a

955
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Speaker 3: nation for football, et cetera, et cetera. You know, the

956
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Speaker 3: usual stuff that you would throw at a country like

957
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Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia. And FIFA is not making this any better

958
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Speaker 3: for itself because it's behaving like it's actually wildly embarrassed

959
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Speaker 3: by the decision that it's just taken, because it announced

960
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Speaker 3: the decision but nothing else. Will not take any questions

961
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Speaker 3: on it, no press conference, no explanation for the how

962
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: they came to make this call, and basically that's it.

963
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Speaker 3: We just have to take the news now. Despite all

964
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Speaker 3: of this, I am actually okay with this decision because personally,

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Speaker 3: if there's one thing that the HUKA and the all

966
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Speaker 3: Blacks told me a few weeks ago is that I

967
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Speaker 3: really do prefer my sport to be completely devoid of politics.

968
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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I feel like there

969
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Speaker 3: is enough tension and friction in everyday life, especially at

970
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Speaker 3: the moment right with an increasingly polarized Western world. I

971
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: just want to break sometimes. I want to sit down

972
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Speaker 3: to watch a game of footy, whatever kind of footy

973
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Speaker 3: i'm watching. I just want to break from politics. And

974
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Speaker 3: this would be a break from politics. It's got nothing

975
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Speaker 3: to do with it right now. I'm not saying that

976
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Speaker 3: hosting this event in Saudi Arabia will necessarily be a success,

977
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Speaker 3: because if the example of Katar a couple of years

978
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Speaker 3: ago is anything to go by, might not be right.

979
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Speaker 3: The fans found out at the last minute they couldn't

980
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Speaker 3: drink the beers in the stadium. Hardly any fans actually

981
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Speaker 3: turned up on the numbers that we were expecting, so

982
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Speaker 3: it might be a complete bomb. So maybe the decision

983
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Speaker 3: in the end is a bad decision, but not for

984
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Speaker 3: political reasons. Political reasons, I'm increasingly of the view politics

985
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Speaker 3: should not factor in sports decisions like this at all together.

986
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Speaker 3: Du for see Ellen right, the Fairies decision. We're going

987
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Speaker 3: to have Winston Peters with us after half past seven,

988
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Speaker 3: and I'm going to explain to you. You might have noticed

989
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Speaker 3: that the price Labour's price for the fairies has gone

990
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Speaker 3: from three billion to yesterday we find out four billion.

991
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Speaker 3: There is a good explanation for that, and I'll get

992
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Speaker 3: you across all of that, and then we'll discuss the

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Speaker 3: b in set as well. News talks, head by.

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Speaker 2: The News, Bold opinions. Heather due to see Allen on

995
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Speaker 2: the mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate, your local

996
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Speaker 1: News talks head b.

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Speaker 3: By the Way, Julia Dean's of Fur Patrol with us

999
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Speaker 3: after eight on a tour. She's just wrapping up at

1000
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Speaker 3: the moment. It's twenty three away from eight.

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Speaker 12: Now.

1002
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Speaker 3: We have waited a year for the fairies decision, and

1003
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Speaker 3: it looks like we're going to be waiting quite a

1004
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 3: bit longer because we got very little yesterday. No fairies,

1005
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 3: no price, no decision, by the looks of things. The

1006
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Speaker 3: new Minister for rail we did get that is Winston

1007
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Speaker 3: Peters and he's with us now morning. Winston, good morning,

1008
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Speaker 3: So what's going on? Why no decision yesterday.

1009
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Speaker 8: The reason for that is that we inherited coming back

1010
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Speaker 8: into government in twenty twenty three an unholy mess where

1011
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 8: the costs were blowing out to three point two billion

1012
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 8: and rising to where Treasury said four billion, and then

1013
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Speaker 8: you had all the other uncertainties as well, and the

1014
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Speaker 8: massive infrastructure costs was eighty percent of the whole deal.

1015
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Speaker 8: So that was not the project that they were charge

1016
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Speaker 8: was doing when I was last Minister of Railways, and

1017
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Speaker 8: so this was a circumstances that took some time to

1018
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Speaker 8: try and unravel. But here we are set to go

1019
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 8: now and very very shortly we'll announce what the long

1020
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Speaker 8: term future will be. But what we want is efficient,

1021
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Speaker 8: effective transport systems in this country and the ferry operations

1022
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Speaker 8: in the Cork Strait are critical to that.

1023
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Speaker 3: Okay, So is it the case this has been reported

1024
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: this morning that Nikola Willis has actually hammered out a deal.

1025
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Speaker 3: But those fairies are not rail enabled and you want

1026
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 3: a chance to try and better her deal? Is what's

1027
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Speaker 3: going on?

1028
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Speaker 7: No?

1029
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: Has she hammered out a deal? No, there is no

1030
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 3: deal with Staina Roro third time? No, So where is

1031
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 3: the nine hundred million dollars coming.

1032
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Speaker 8: From then, Well for somebody doing guesswork and being repeated

1033
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Speaker 8: by the mainstream media, it's sad to say, I hope

1034
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Speaker 8: you don't repeat it because it's not true, it's not accurate,

1035
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 8: it's not based on anything at all.

1036
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Speaker 3: Is that your fiscalo?

1037
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Speaker 7: Sorry?

1038
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Speaker 8: And I can't understand why these sorts of shiveleths get

1039
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Speaker 8: so much airtime.

1040
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Speaker 3: Is that how much money she's given you?

1041
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Speaker 14: Though?

1042
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 3: Has she said a fiscal envelope said you've got nine

1043
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 3: hundred million and you can go away and do with

1044
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Speaker 3: it what you will.

1045
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 8: I find this question in extraordinary either. Probably some claimed

1046
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 8: insiders have been telling you that, but that again is

1047
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 8: not true.

1048
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 3: No, I mean this has been widely reported by multiple

1049
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Speaker 3: different media outlets.

1050
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Speaker 8: Well that's the point, the wider it gets reported, if

1051
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 8: it starts off of as a piece of shibleth or

1052
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 8: shipleth or a deceit or by, it just carries on.

1053
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 8: But you know, and we've got to do better.

1054
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 3: Well to tell us how much money you've gotten? Sit

1055
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Speaker 3: it right?

1056
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Speaker 14: Well?

1057
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Speaker 8: Now, why would I possibly do that? Given that we've

1058
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Speaker 8: got to look at all aspects of this, including protect

1059
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 8: potential rescue boats in the Sound so to speak, or

1060
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Speaker 8: in the cook straight because all this infrastructure has been

1061
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 8: let go all the time, and here we've got a

1062
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Speaker 8: massive job in front of us, and to rush out

1063
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Speaker 8: and say what we're going to do is start saying

1064
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Speaker 8: what we're going to buy them for is to set

1065
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Speaker 8: the bottom price from which the ship builders will start

1066
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Speaker 8: increasing their profits. And we're not going to make those

1067
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Speaker 8: city mistakes because it's bad business.

1068
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Speaker 3: But don't you think they're going to do that anyway?

1069
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: I mean even at let's say you're negotiating with the

1070
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Speaker 3: Sweet Dish guys, is that just going to hit the

1071
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: Google and find out that there's nine hundred million to

1072
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Speaker 3: play with?

1073
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Speaker 8: Well, they can hit the Google as long as I like,

1074
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 8: but they won't be finding as nine hundred million. Okay, Okay,

1075
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 8: I just told you that. I told you that three

1076
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 8: times and you're repeeding it for a full time. See

1077
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 8: what's wrong with the Zillers media here? You just go

1078
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 8: keep on reporting a total crap.

1079
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: The more indignant you get, the more I believe that

1080
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: it's the truth. I'll tell you're winstea.

1081
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Speaker 8: Okay, Okay, no, no, You'll have plenty of time on

1082
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 8: the Official Mation Act in the future to find that

1083
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Speaker 8: whether I'm saying.

1084
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Speaker 7: Or not true.

1085
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Speaker 8: And when you do, can you please go on the

1086
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 8: program and say I'm so sorry, Yeah, I'm aligned, Winston.

1087
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Speaker 3: Go do that, I will Winston explains something to me.

1088
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Speaker 3: Then if you haven't, if Nikola hasn't been hammering out

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Speaker 3: a deal that you want to better, what the hell

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00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 3: have you guys been doing for a year.

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00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 8: Well, look, we got hold of a program that I

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Speaker 8: commissioned in May of twenty twenty, which was to be

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00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 8: four hundred point one million dollars.

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00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can hear ago Winston. You guys have

1095
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 3: had more than enough time to come up with something

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Speaker 3: better than this.

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Speaker 8: Well, when you say we can canceled a year ago

1098
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 8: trying to unravel those things, we took a bit of time,

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00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 8: I admit us taken too longer. But we've been the

1100
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 8: job just now less than one day. Here's a chime,

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00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 8: so we'll show you what we can do as we

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Speaker 8: did in past times on when we're running.

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Speaker 3: But this makes no sense to me. Okay, so you

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00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 3: can or something. It's literally almost to the day. You

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00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: canceled something in on about the fourteenth of December last year.

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00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: So why did you guys, not immediately go out to

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00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: the market and see what you could negotiate to be

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00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 3: able to announce in December twenty twenty four.

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00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 7: Well, that's not the way.

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Speaker 8: If I was in charge of it, I'd have done

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00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 8: anyway for a start, because what are you going to

1112
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Speaker 8: do is find out from all sortss what is the

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00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 8: best option, the best price, for the greatest level of

1114
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 8: efficiency and the greatest level of longevity. But I was

1115
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 8: hearing so much going on. They were talking about the

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00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 8: current fairies being one out of time that they've expired,

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00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 8: the used day by their use by data that expired.

1118
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 8: All that was total nonsense. Their use day by data

1119
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 8: is way beyond twenty twenty nine. It's a question of

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Speaker 8: proper maintenance.

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Speaker 14: All right.

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Speaker 3: Now, what's the break fee that we're going to pay

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Speaker 3: the South Koreans.

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Speaker 7: The break feed?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well that's in commercial and it's confidential. It's confidential.

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Speaker 3: Why is it confidential?

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Speaker 8: For a whole lot of reasons why it's confident? And

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00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 8: Minister Nicholas told you all that.

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00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 3: But give me one. Give you what give me a

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00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 3: reason why it's confidential?

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00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 8: Oh, well, do you know something about simple commercial practice?

1132
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 8: Feel about business and ethics. Do you know anything about

1133
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 8: commercial practice? That's why it's confidential.

1134
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 3: You have a deal, you break the deal, they will

1135
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 3: have written in the contract if you break this steal,

1136
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 3: this is how much you pay. So how much do

1137
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 3: we pay?

1138
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 7: Which law school do you go to?

1139
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 3: You don't have to go a law school.

1140
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 8: You're daughter to your lawyers does nothing about business.

1141
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: This lawyer can't even give me a reason why it's confidential.

1142
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 8: You're never going to get an answer to please go

1143
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 8: back to something that makes them.

1144
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 3: I don't accept that, Winston. I don't think that's good enough.

1145
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 3: I just think you guys don't want to tell us

1146
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,479
Speaker 3: because it's embarrassing to you how much you're having to pay,

1147
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 3: and you should tell us because it's our money.

1148
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 8: Is this embarrassing for the country. You're quite right, it's

1149
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 8: massively embarrassing that they went out there, the blabbor government

1150
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 8: blew the whole thing out, tossing money around like eight

1151
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 8: armed doctor pist that done. Boats were only twenty percent

1152
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 8: of the cost. The other very eighty percent infrastructure about

1153
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 8: which they told me.

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00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: I want to thank you guys. I think you're in

1155
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 3: a position to be throwing stones at the moment I

1156
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 3: mean you went and canceled the contract.

1157
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 8: Yes I am, Yes, i am, because I'm the guy

1158
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 8: that sent them out book they find two boats for

1159
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 8: four hundred one minute.

1160
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 3: Winston's coming from nobody else. You're the guy who starts

1161
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 3: the deal. Then you end up with a new government

1162
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 3: canceling the deal and trying to fix the deal in

1163
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 3: a year later, we still didn't have an announcement.

1164
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 8: So it's right, it's out the pardon between I'm the

1165
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 8: guy that started the deal. Yes, but they didn't do

1166
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 8: the deal that I asked. And do they ends up

1167
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty one buying these two fairies with enormous

1168
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 8: cost of infrastructure heading towards four billion dollars according to

1169
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 8: Treasury and rising. And you're telling me it's embarrassing. Of

1170
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 8: course it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing to all of us. But

1171
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 8: I'm here to fix it, and I'm going to fix it.

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00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 3: You're usually the guy who battles for the for the

1173
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 3: little guy, and you're you're you're the guy who always

1174
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 3: tells us when need transparency. So where's the transparency on this?

1175
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 13: Then?

1176
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 8: Oh it'll be out there like as clear as daylight.

1177
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 8: Brittain as the stars. When I get the the solutions

1178
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 8: out there, you'll know all the facts. You'll know everything

1179
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 8: about the nuts because it's not a negative story that

1180
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 8: you want to be on the program.

1181
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: Now, when David Seymour said it's going to be roughly

1182
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 3: the cost of the I rex, are we talking about

1183
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 3: the I rex at four billion or three billion? Which

1184
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: means that you guys are going to run up a

1185
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: bill of one and a half.

1186
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: To two billion.

1187
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 8: I've I've got no idea why he made that comment,

1188
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 8: because now that's true.

1189
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 3: Well, he's sitting around the cabinet table, so he knows

1190
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 3: what's going on, isn't he what you asked him?

1191
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 8: I had made it because on last night I saw

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00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 8: my on TV denying it. He used the word he said,

1193
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 8: he said he used the word approximately, and approximately could

1194
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 8: mean a huge approximation. That was different from what he said.

1195
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 8: You know, that's so why are trying to put you

1196
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 8: on the program? Asked me about it?

1197
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 7: Now?

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00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, have you guys even factored in how much

1199
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: you could because the vast majority of the cost of

1200
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 3: this thing is going to be the port upgrades. How

1201
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 3: much is that going to cost us?

1202
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 14: Well?

1203
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 8: Who said that was true.

1204
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 3: You said that was true. I mean the fairies were

1205
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 3: five hundred and fifty milis.

1206
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 7: I didn't know that was grades.

1207
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 3: They're going to be about two point five Bill Heather.

1208
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 8: Heather, Yeah, hush us for a second. That's what the

1209
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 8: program that I inherited looked like. Yes, we're the costs

1210
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 8: were eighty percent of we're on the infrastruction.

1211
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 3: That's what I'm quoting back to you.

1212
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 8: You know, I've never seen so much rudeness, so much

1213
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 8: trying to explain to you a critical issue costing so

1214
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 8: much for the taxpayer, and you're interrupting. Here's my point,

1215
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 8: it'll cost way way less than that on that, on

1216
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 8: which I'm certain based on what well, based on simple experience.

1217
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 3: No, that's all I'm asking you is how much is it?

1218
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: Because we still have to do the port upgrades right

1219
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 3: because they are dilapidated.

1220
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 7: So how much?

1221
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 14: No?

1222
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 8: No, again again again that's not true. I mean, you've

1223
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 8: got all sorts of people out thinking, well, here's my

1224
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 8: chance now to milk the tax path for all I can.

1225
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 7: I know you don't.

1226
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 8: Our job is to be responsible with the taxpayer's money

1227
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 8: as we are about our own.

1228
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 3: And that's what we're going to do okay, Winston. When

1229
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 3: do we get the final decision from you guys as

1230
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 3: the second half of next year?

1231
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 7: Is it.

1232
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 8: Just as soon as we can responsibly make it okay?

1233
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for your time and best of lock.

1234
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 8: You hang on, You hang on here because it helps

1235
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 8: on its way.

1236
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 3: Jeez, I feel like I'm waiting a long time for

1237
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 3: that help. Winston, thanks so much, look after your stuff,

1238
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: Enjoy your day, Winston, Peter's new rail minister. I still

1239
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 3: don't know what they've been doing for a year. Thirteen

1240
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 3: Away from Mate The My.

1241
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:08,200
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1242
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1243
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Speaker 3: Do you feel like you've been told by Grandpa Crandpa

1244
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 3: to go and sit in the naughty corner? After that?

1245
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 3: Here the hush up for a second, Literally the best

1246
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 3: interview all year. I'm cracking up in the cow shed

1247
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: morning here that I just love Winston. He cracks me up.

1248
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 3: Long may he live and so it goes. I think

1249
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 3: after talking to Winston, we're all far less concerned about

1250
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: the fairies, aren't we, Because we say it's just it's

1251
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: just a good old time around the cabinet. Table. If

1252
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 3: you're wondering where the four billion dollar price tag came from,

1253
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: because yesterday everything changed, well not everything changed, but the

1254
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 3: narrative on this thing changed. Because we'd been told that

1255
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: Labour's project was going to cost three billion dollars, and

1256
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 3: then yesterday they started repeating this number. This was Nicola

1257
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: Willis started repeating this number, four billion dollars, four billion dollars.

1258
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 3: We got in touch with them and we're like, where

1259
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 3: did this four billion dollars come from?

1260
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 4: Me?

1261
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 3: You're just making this stuff up. So no, no, no, and

1262
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 3: they sent us the documents and bang on. So May

1263
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four there is and a for Information at

1264
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 3: Request that is released.

1265
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 7: Now.

1266
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 3: I'm not entirely sure when this was written because obviously

1267
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 3: May twenty four, June twenty three, thank you, So May

1268
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 3: twenty four, we've already got the new government in, but

1269
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 3: it was written June twenty three, when the last government

1270
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: were in. It was written for Grant Robertson, Duncan Webb

1271
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 3: and David Parker, and it's telling them how much, basically

1272
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 3: giving them an outline of how the project's going to

1273
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: play out, and it says, based on international benchmarking, the

1274
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 3: cost overrun for similar projects is so much, and we're

1275
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 3: already heading so much. And on this evidence, the total

1276
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 3: cost of I REX could approach four billion dollars. So

1277
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 3: we were not even start. We weren't even touching the

1278
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 3: sides of how bad this was going to get with

1279
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 3: three billion dollars. Even so, anyway, when David Seymour says

1280
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 3: it's approximately half, you could be factoring in somewhere between

1281
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 3: one and a half to two billion dollars for how

1282
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 3: much we're going to end up paying on this one.

1283
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 3: Nine away from.

1284
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: Mate Heather Duplessy Ellen pond done by costing breakfast with

1285
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 2: the range Rover, the LA News.

1286
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 3: Talk sad Be morning here. The spreading misinformation about the

1287
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 3: fairies might have been designed to get more information out

1288
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: of Winnie, but you should know he's two wives for that. Listen,

1289
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 3: let me just give you a little heads up on

1290
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 3: what's going on. Something very funny is going on here

1291
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: in the coalition because they announced nothing yesterday, right and

1292
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, and you probably weren't watching

1293
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 3: closely enough to see this, but I was both TV

1294
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 3: news channels last night and ourselves here at news Talk

1295
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: z'd be started reporting that actually there was a deal

1296
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 3: that was and it was kind of like vaguely referenced,

1297
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 3: but that there was a deal that had been hammered

1298
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 3: out by Nikola Willis and Winnie p has just been

1299
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 3: given a chance to try and better that deal. Now

1300
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: that you do not need to be a rocket scientist

1301
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: to figure out is coming from the National Party. They're

1302
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: trying to make themselves look good by saying, don't worry,

1303
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 3: Nicholas already got a deal stitched together. The reason we

1304
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 3: didn't announce anything is because Whennie needs a bit of

1305
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 3: time to just see if he could get some rail

1306
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 3: on there or something. So something weird is going on

1307
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 3: because this has obviously been held up. The Nats are

1308
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 3: saying they've got a deal when he just told us

1309
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 3: they haven't got a deal, and everybody's blaming David Seymour

1310
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 3: as well. You know that's being reported as well. There's

1311
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 3: some weird tensions around this. Just keep an eye on

1312
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: it because I don't think it's a happy camp around

1313
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 3: the cabinet table, which is why we're getting a weird

1314
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: information from the various parties. But anyway, it'll flush itself

1315
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 3: out over time. On that business that We've been discussing

1316
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 3: on the show this week about B and Z, right,

1317
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 3: and this is the gas telling the gas stations they

1318
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 3: have to pay back all their debt in six years

1319
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: because bn Z doesn't want to lend to gas stations

1320
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: because you know, climate change. Awkward. B and Z was

1321
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 3: before the Parliamentary Selectmmittee, as I told you yesterday, and

1322
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 3: the bank's boss, Dan Huggins said, no, it's totally cool,

1323
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 3: totally cool what we're doing because we're not going to

1324
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 3: need petrol stations in six years.

1325
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 18: We would expect that we're going to see conversion to

1326
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 18: electric vehicles demand change for fuel services. So therefore we've

1327
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 18: said lot we we think we've got enough exposure in

1328
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 18: that space and don't want to increase that exposure.

1329
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 3: So if you take him to what he's saying, then

1330
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 3: what he's saying is we're not going to need petrol

1331
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 3: stations in six years, so we don't have to fund

1332
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 3: them anymore. But is that is that realistic? Because I

1333
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 3: had a look at the numbers. Let me just give

1334
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 3: me the numbers. I'll give you the numbers because Dan's

1335
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 3: numbers guy s he's a banking CEO. Right, We've got

1336
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 3: four point nine million cars in New Zealand that don't

1337
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 3: need a gas station are the ones that are battery

1338
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 3: electric and plug in hybrids. They make up two point

1339
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 3: four percent of our fleet. Two point four percent of

1340
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 3: our fleet, So ninety seven point six percent of our

1341
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 3: cars still need gas stations, and I don't feel like

1342
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 3: that's going to change in the next six years. What

1343
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 3: do you think. I did the numbers at the rate

1344
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 3: that we're buying the plug in hybrids and the electric vehicles,

1345
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 3: by twelve hundred of them roughly in a month, right

1346
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 3: so November we bought twelve hundred of them. It would

1347
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 3: take us roughly three hundred and thirty five years to

1348
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: replace all of the vehicles that require a gas station.

1349
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 3: So I don't know about you, but I feel like

1350
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 3: Dan might be overly optimistic about the rate of uptake

1351
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 3: with the electric vehicles. What do you think? Anyway? I'm

1352
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 3: looking forward to seeing how this is playing out, because

1353
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to go well for beanst anything.

1354
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 3: A bit of pressure on this.

1355
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Speaker 2: Demanding the answers from the decision makers. Can the duplessy

1356
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: Ellen on the mic asking breakfast with a vida, retirement, Communities,

1357
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: Life your way us.

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Speaker 3: Talk see pill with Last State. Now it is the

1359
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Speaker 3: final day tomorrow for this year's Come Together the tour now,

1360
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 3: but Come Together Tour as something that's happened for the

1361
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 3: last four years and it's basically a supergroup of most

1362
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: of our well most well known rock as. We've got

1363
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 3: Milan from Pluto, got John Too Good from Chehad and

1364
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 3: of course Julia Dean's from Fair Patrol who was with

1365
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Speaker 3: me now morning, Julia Moana, how's the tour going?

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Speaker 13: I've seen these shows are always just so joy, pure

1367
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 13: joy that hang out with a good bunch of people

1368
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 13: and singing amazing or not playing amazing songs.

1369
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just does sound like a good bunch of people.

1370
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 3: I mean, is it like it's probably not intimidating to you.

1371
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 3: Sounds intimidating to me to be playing with these people

1372
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 3: because they are some of the best musicians we have

1373
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:50,439
Speaker 3: in the country. Right.

1374
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 13: They ain't here without a doubt, I think. I think

1375
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 13: the first time I turned up was definitely a little

1376
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 13: bit oh, how is this going to go? You know,

1377
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 13: you always have a little bit of trepidation about how

1378
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 13: things pan out when you were working with walking, not

1379
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 13: working walking into a different situation, you know, even you know,

1380
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 13: I have known most of these people, a lot of

1381
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 13: these people for years.

1382
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Speaker 3: I thought, I love what you guys are doing.

1383
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 9: This year.

1384
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 3: You're doing what is it? The top twenty rock songs?

1385
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 3: Is it of all time?

1386
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 13: Did you hear what?

1387
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 3: Side?

1388
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 13: There's more, There's more than twenty twenty five. We are

1389
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 13: to a vote because the show has been running now

1390
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 13: for five years, and so it's built up with you know,

1391
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 13: the series has been running for five years, that built

1392
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 13: up a really loyal following, and we've put out a

1393
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 13: question to the our followers to tell us their top

1394
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 13: five rock songs at all time, and so that's how

1395
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 13: we now and then the list of ten was chosen

1396
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 13: from those votes that so that will be our second

1397
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 13: set and the first set. It's also songs that have

1398
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 13: been performed in previous you know, from previous albums that

1399
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 13: we've done. And Joel and Joel who are in the

1400
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 13: Joel Nold Holland and Simon is our ouber boss. They

1401
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 13: kind of have the final day on everything, and I

1402
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 13: think between them and I think the band had a

1403
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 13: bit of a vote as well on which songs they

1404
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 13: also wanted to play. Story if my cat is in

1405
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 13: the background.

1406
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 3: Julia, Have you taken your cash on tour with you?

1407
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 13: No? No, no, I'm in Auckland.

1408
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: Oh thank god, because I was just saying that's that's unhealthy.

1409
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 3: But so you you're in Auckland at the moment and

1410
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 3: then the final the final shows in Wellington tomorrow night.

1411
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 3: Is it so you'll go down leave the cat behind?

1412
01:02:59,560 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1413
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1414
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 13: Unfortunately we only ever do Auckland, Wellington and christ Church

1415
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 13: with this. It's such a big production. It's hard to

1416
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 13: kind of find the right news. But you know, all

1417
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 13: of us would love to be able to take it

1418
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 13: on the road.

1419
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 3: Tell me what are the what are the top top

1420
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 3: rock songs? Because I feel like this is controversial.

1421
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 13: Well, I don't know. You know, there's there's things. There's

1422
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 13: some Pink Floyd in there. We haven't actually done a

1423
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 13: Pink Floyd album yet, so maybe that is on the card.

1424
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 13: When else there's Led Zeppelin, some Bruce Springs, then Fleetwood Mac.

1425
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 13: It's it's kind of it's the classics, some Beetles.

1426
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 3: Which Fleetwood Mac song? Have you guys got in there?

1427
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 13: Oh we're doing the chain?

1428
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can get on board with that. But is

1429
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 3: this you guys saying that the Chain by Fleetwood Mac

1430
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 3: is the best song by Fleetwood Mac, because that essentially

1431
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 3: what you're saying, isn't it?

1432
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 13: Eh No, no, no, no, that's all subjective?

1433
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,479
Speaker 3: Well exactly right. Is there anything that's made it into

1434
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: this list, either by the random people voting or your

1435
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 3: fellow band members that you've been like that? Is that Torgi? Anything?

1436
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 13: No? No, nothing, It's all yeah, I don't know. There

1437
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 13: are songs and part of a collective musical. What's like,

1438
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 13: you know, the genetics? I suppose things that you just

1439
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 13: here have heard over and over throughout the years.

1440
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 3: We were talking yesterday on the show about Lulu doing

1441
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 3: her jukebox. I don't know if you're aware of it.

1442
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 3: This is Listenda doing the jukebox collection and stuff. And

1443
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 3: I was thinking to myself when I was talking about

1444
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 3: it yesterday, I was thinking, you know, if you've got

1445
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 3: it like a body of your own work, which is

1446
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:56,439
Speaker 3: pretty amazing, why are you going out and doing other

1447
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 3: people's songs? Is there something like? Is it more fun

1448
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 3: to do covers?

1449
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: What is it?

1450
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 13: It's just different. It's kind of what's what's a good analogy?

1451
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 13: It's like borrowing your friend's jacket. You know, you've got

1452
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 13: wardrobe for the things that you wear all the time

1453
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 13: and you love them and they're and you're great, and

1454
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 13: you have your favorites and everything, and then you know,

1455
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 13: you see your friend has this great court and you

1456
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 13: just go, oh, that would be fun to wear for the.

1457
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 3: Night, except your friend is maybe I don't know, John Lennon, Yeah,

1458
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 3: it's a really great jacket that you're trying off for

1459
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 3: the nice Yeah.

1460
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, those glasses a little round one. I see, they

1461
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 13: do look good on me. But it's also it's how

1462
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 13: I think of you know, when I think of doing covers,

1463
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 13: they are usually you know, all describing doing covers, it's

1464
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 13: it's something you have to wear it, wear them as

1465
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 13: your own as well as paying, you know, to like

1466
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 13: paying homage to the greatness of what the song is.

1467
01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, too right, You've got to kind of put your

1468
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 3: own spin on it. You can't wear it like somebody

1469
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 3: else does. Julia will take it break come back to

1470
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 3: you and just to take Julia Dean's Who Is Worth

1471
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 3: to Come Together Tour, which is gonna have his final

1472
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 3: night tomorrow night at thirteen past eight.

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01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 2: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show Podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: by News.

1475
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 3: Talks at be Right, you're back at Julia Dean's of

1476
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 3: Fur Patrol. Julie, give me your take on the on

1477
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,439
Speaker 3: how the music industry in New Zealand's going at the moment.

1478
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 3: Because you've been around for a while, right, You've seen

1479
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 3: it across the decades. Is it still strong?

1480
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 7: Yes?

1481
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of amazing

1482
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 13: music out there and some you know, great people involved.

1483
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 13: I think, oh god, this is it. This is a

1484
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 13: broad subject.

1485
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Speaker 3: I will tell you why I was thinking about this, right.

1486
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 3: I was thinking about it because there's a lot of

1487
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 3: twenty five year anniversaries that are being marked at the moment,

1488
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 3: twenty five years of you know, various things with she had,

1489
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 3: twenty five years since you released your song Lydia, And

1490
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 3: it kind of made me think that, I mean, look,

1491
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 3: twenty five years ago, I was a lot younger, and

1492
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 3: I was probably spending more time, more time at concerts,

1493
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 3: but it felt to me like it was more vibrant

1494
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 3: and there was more going on, and we were listening

1495
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 3: to more Kiwi music back then than maybe we are now.

1496
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 13: No, Well, is that part of that whole nostalgia thing

1497
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 13: as well, you know, those were such formative years. You know,

1498
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 13: when you know, twenty five years ago, the age for

1499
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 13: us was, you know, you view the world kind of differently,

1500
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 13: I guess when you're in your twenties, and I think

1501
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:38,959
Speaker 13: there especially so many good young musicians and bands out

1502
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 13: there at the moment, and I think the scene is alive.

1503
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 13: I think it's it's different. It's a different world with

1504
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 13: streaming and all those kind of you know, new like

1505
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 13: social media platforms. I think when we were, you know,

1506
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 13: twenty five years ago, there were very clear media outlets,

1507
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 13: you know, in terms if everybody sort of saw the

1508
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 13: same papers or the same stations. And you know, now

1509
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 13: there's you know, so many more ways of reaching your

1510
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 13: audience that it maybe seems a little bit more scattered.

1511
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,839
Speaker 13: But there's definitely, I don't know, there's.

1512
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Speaker 3: A lot, Julia. Remember we used to have music TV,

1513
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 3: right and you go from school and you'd sit down

1514
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 3: what was it called? Was it juice TV?

1515
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 13: Juice TV?

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Speaker 3: Sit down, come come home from school, sit down, watch

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Speaker 3: the latest music videos. I don't know that the kids

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Speaker 3: are still doing that.

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Speaker 13: They watched them on YouTube. But also, you know, the

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01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 13: music video isn't as powerful a tool as it used

1521
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Speaker 13: to be. But because of that, people watch them on YouTube.

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Speaker 13: But I know a lot of musicians now when they

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Speaker 13: release music don't even bother with a full you know,

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Speaker 13: three full lengths music video because it's a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: It is a lot of money.

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Speaker 13: Won't get the same play.

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Speaker 3: You guys are in like bang on the right cohort

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Speaker 3: at your age and given that you kind of had

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Speaker 3: your big moment about twenty twenty five years ago, because

1530
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 3: what it means is that the people who you'll be

1531
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 3: attracting to your concerts are like millennials and gen z

1532
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 3: Is who've got all the money now.

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Speaker 13: Right, I'm sorry, sorry I missed that.

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Speaker 3: It was just meaning like the nostalgia thing that you're

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01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 3: doing at the moment is bang on because the people

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Speaker 3: that I'm imagining you're drawing people to your concerts who

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01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 3: are sort of like in that age bracket forty to

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Speaker 3: fifty with disposable cash. Oh and older and older.

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Speaker 13: Yes, so a lot of the audiences boomers are the boomersing, yeah,

1540
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 13: you have well, you know, coming out and these are

1541
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 13: you know, the songs of being youth as well. So

1542
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,839
Speaker 13: if it's we get a really broad range of ages.

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01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 13: That's kind of what's cool about it because you get

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Speaker 13: the people who were there when the albums came out,

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01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 13: plus the end children and grandchildren who grew up listening

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Speaker 13: to those songs because they were playing in the house

1547
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Speaker 13: and in the car and all of those things. All people,

1548
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 13: you know, younger people have discovered them for themselves, so

1549
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:17,799
Speaker 13: it's it's good. It really does help everyone come together. Brilliant.

1550
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Speaker 3: So you've got last show Friday thirteen. What do you

1551
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 3: do after that?

1552
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 13: Everyone's dispersing for the silly season.

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Speaker 3: I guess two musicians get to take the summer off as.

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Speaker 13: Well, oh feminem of them. Yeah, yeah, it just depends

1555
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 13: what you are, what your jamma is.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant stuff. Well, Julia, listen, thank you very much for

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01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 3: chatting to us, Beast of Like. I hope you enjoy

1558
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Speaker 3: the rest of the tour, which is one more show.

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Speaker 3: That's Julia Dean's the lead singer of Food Patrol, who

1560
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Speaker 3: is obviously with the Come Together Tour, which has been happening,

1561
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Speaker 3: as I said earlier for about four years now. Supergroup

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Speaker 3: of News. You don't get a lot of supergroups in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, do Yeah, eight twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Ever due for Cellen Hey.

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Speaker 3: By the way, news is coming out of the US

1589
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Speaker 3: is that the FBI director, Christopher Ray has resigned apparently,

1590
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 3: and this was kind of there were a few reports

1591
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 3: that were emerging this morning suggesting that he was about

1592
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Speaker 3: to resign. He was going to do it at some

1593
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 3: stage before Inauguration day, still at a month or so

1594
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Speaker 3: before he had to do it. And basically the reason

1595
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 3: he wanted to quit before Trump he got in is

1596
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 3: because he was expecting Trump to fire him, and so

1597
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Speaker 3: out he goes, no surprise. Eight twenty five. Now, I

1598
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 3: said to you yesterday we were going to have share

1599
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Speaker 3: on the show. Unfortunately Cher wasn't able to come on

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Speaker 3: the show today for very good reason. Cher has been

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Speaker 3: evacuated from her house because of those Malibu fires which

1602
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 3: are burning. I checked them this morning. To be fair,

1603
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 3: you're getting you're getting an update that's a couple of

1604
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 3: hours old. But last I saw they were still burning

1605
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 3: that out at about twenty seven hundred acres had been

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Speaker 3: ripped through by the fire and had taken down seven

1607
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Speaker 3: struck And it's all because of the high winds and

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01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. So it sounds like it's

1609
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 3: going to go on for a while. But anyway, this

1610
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Speaker 3: is where all the celebs live in Malibu, and so

1611
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 3: she's not the only celeb. Poor old Dick Van Dyke,

1612
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Speaker 3: who just did the video the other day with Coldplay,

1613
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Speaker 3: he's had to be evacuated. He doesn't need that. He's

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Speaker 3: ninety nine, and he took all his pets, but he

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01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 3: left his cat Bobo behind, so that's going to be

1616
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Speaker 3: distressing to him. Also living in the evacuation zone, so

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Speaker 3: you can presume, you can presume also being evacuated as

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Speaker 3: Lady Gigar, but also Beyonce and jay Z, And let's

1619
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Speaker 3: be honest about it, they don't need it either, do they.

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Speaker 3: Lady Beyonce and jay Z do not need a fire

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Speaker 3: evacuation at the moment, given they are already dealing with

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Speaker 3: the sex claims against jay Z. There's a lot going

1623
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Speaker 3: on there anyway. So with Cher, we're going to try

1624
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Speaker 3: and have a chat to her when she gets back,

1625
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Speaker 3: gets back into her house and thoughts and prayers to her.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully that happens very very soon. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you've seen this. I'm gonna give you a quick quick

1628
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 3: rundown on this one. We've still got a bit of time.

1629
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Speaker 3: We do the you know how we do the literacy

1630
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Speaker 3: and numeracy test for the kids and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: We've also been doing them for the adults across the

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Speaker 3: the developed world, and New Zealand adults have stopped being

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Speaker 3: able to read and write properly. And I thought that's surprising,

1634
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 3: but now we know why. It's because the dudes. New

1635
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 3: Zealand men are behind the slump. Apparently, apparently men's average

1636
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 3: literacy school in this country dropped by twenty seven points,

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Speaker 3: which is only beaten. It's such a big drop. It's

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Speaker 3: only beaten by Poland and Lithuania. And it's not And

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Speaker 3: this is what I don't understand. It's not the young guys.

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Speaker 3: It's not like the guys at school. It's the adults

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Speaker 3: from twenty five to forty four. The men in the

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01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 3: age break of twenty four to forty four are the

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01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 3: ones letting us down the most can't read anymore. How

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Speaker 3: do you explain that? Got the headlines coming up next?

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Speaker 3: Then we're off to Rod Liddle NEWSTALKSZDB.

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Speaker 2: You're trusted source for news and views, Heather Duplessy Allen

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Speaker 2: on the mic asking breakfast with the range rover villa

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Speaker 2: designed to intrigue use Tom's dead b.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it looks like Donald Trump is going to be

1650
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Speaker 3: named Times Person of the Year. Three different people connected

1651
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Speaker 3: to this decision have told Politico over in the US

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Speaker 3: that he's going to get it, and Elton John has

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Speaker 3: been named the pop Icon of the Year twenty three Away.

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Speaker 2: From nine International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace

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Speaker 2: of Mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: Rod Little out of the UK's with us, Hey, Rod, how.

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Speaker 9: Are you doing? That's a bit late with Elton John,

1658
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 9: isn't it. It's been a pop icon since I was ten.

1659
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Speaker 7: You do hope it's not.

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Speaker 3: The first time. It's sort of just come around, maybe

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Speaker 3: because I don't know, I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 3: since the sympathy vote, he's gone out. He said, I

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Speaker 3: can't see anything anymore. Then go on, better give it.

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Speaker 9: To him now, you know, but probably quite possibly yes, Hey.

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Speaker 3: So what's the deal with the puberty blockers?

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Speaker 9: Well, this is very important. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 9: case which, of course an enormous furor you know, has

1668
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 9: been in this country, but for some time given that

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Speaker 9: we had a Tabistock gender clinic, the Tavistock Clinic, which

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Speaker 9: routinely transitioned children as young as three into a different

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Speaker 9: sex by giving them puberty blockers, also by using surgery.

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Speaker 9: The lawsuits are coming now from people who attended to

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Speaker 9: Tabstock clinic, given that they were given no psychoanalytics, treatment

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Speaker 9: or psychotherapy and were only assessed, sometimes with just one form.

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Speaker 9: The last government that the Tory government banned puberty blockers

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Speaker 9: for those under eighteen, given a report to cast report

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Speaker 9: which said that it wasn't suitable. Remarkably, I think the

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Speaker 9: Health Secretary now under the Labor government, Wes Streeting, has

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Speaker 9: announced that that temporary ban is now an indefinite ban

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Speaker 9: and will be permanent. So that is a huge step.

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Speaker 9: Some people ask the question will this Labor government be

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01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 9: woke or will it be in step with the vast

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Speaker 9: majority of the public who find this kind of messing

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Speaker 9: around with kids' bodies appalling. And Wes Streeting absolutely clear

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Speaker 9: on this. He said that this is going to be

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Speaker 9: a pretty much permanent ban and indefinite ban, and that

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Speaker 9: there was plenty of evidence to show that there was

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Speaker 9: a scandal that medicine was given to vulnerable children without

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Speaker 9: the proof that it was safe.

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Speaker 3: Rober, I mean, it does feel like it's gone from

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Speaker 3: one absolute extreme to the other. There is no carve

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Speaker 3: out here for exceptions where a clinician may think that

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Speaker 3: the kid actually does need it.

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Speaker 9: Nothing at all, Nothing at all seven enough for anyone

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01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 9: under eighteen. Yeah, and you know you would think that

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01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 9: that was probably right given that you know, under Scottish law,

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Speaker 9: for example, someone of who is under twenty five is

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01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 9: not capable of taking responsibility for their own actions, and

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Speaker 9: that's that's been quite an important case in recent recent months.

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Speaker 9: So how then can they give consent to have what

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Speaker 9: is life changing the permanent drugs and surgery surgery of

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01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 9: course is also banned from under eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Quite interesting? Now, what do you make of the farmer

1704
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 3: protestss Central London? Is this going to have these guys

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01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 3: a little list of sympathy for what they're doing?

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01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:36,759
Speaker 9: I have none, Frankly, I'm obvious enough with the government

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Speaker 9: on this one. But it's rather what I was saying

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01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 9: before to Mike that these demonstrations by the farmers are

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Speaker 9: very spectacular in that basically they block up all of London.

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01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 9: Retractors and various rural modes of transport, and it makes

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Speaker 9: it look as if there's quite a lot of the moment,

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01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 9: a fair few hundred, and there certainly is very very

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Speaker 9: great anger in the farming community that labor is picking

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Speaker 9: on them. I just don't think it plays with the public.

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Speaker 9: I just don't think the public has very much sympathy. Basically,

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Speaker 9: all that's happening is that the very richest of the

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01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 9: farmers are those who own land worth more than a

1718
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 9: median quid, will have to pay twenty percent capital gains

1719
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Speaker 9: tax when they sell their farms on or when they

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Speaker 9: give them to their kids. The point being that everyone

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Speaker 9: else in the country pays forty percent capital gains tax,

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Speaker 9: so they're still getting away with far more than anybody

1723
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 9: else in the country gets away with in terms of subsidies.

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01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,759
Speaker 9: There is no question that, for example, the steel industry,

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Speaker 9: the coal industry, and so on would have been closed

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Speaker 9: down long, long, long ago if it had been the

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Speaker 9: level of subsidies we give to farmers.

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Speaker 3: Listen, Rob, what is it that Kimmy Bedlock has said

1729
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 3: about my gear that is so awful?

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Speaker 9: It's hard to imagine, isn't it. Basically Kenny who was

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01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 9: brought up in Nigeria and Kenny is a Nigerian name.

1732
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 9: Has annoyed the Nigerians by suggesting that it's a little

1733
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 9: bit corrupted, not entirely safe. Everything I've ever read about

1734
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 9: Nigeria would tend to support that proposition, But the Nigerians

1735
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 9: have got very across about it and said that she

1736
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Speaker 9: should either change her name so that it's no longer

1737
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 9: Nigerian or stop dissing her country of birth. But she's

1738
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 9: refused to back down and said, look, we all know

1739
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 9: what it's like. It is corrupt and it is dangerous,

1740
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 9: and I don't think she will lose many votes for

1741
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 9: saying that.

1742
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 3: No. No, I mean they're only offended at the truth

1743
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 3: by the looks. So thanks Rod, thanks very much. Appreciate it.

1744
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 3: Rod little Uk corresponding, I tell you what the problem is.

1745
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 3: Nigeria is exceedingly proud of Kemmy and wants Kimmy to

1746
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 3: be proud of Nigeria, and it's just it's not reciprocated

1747
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 3: and they're getting the knows and there not about that.

1748
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,560
Speaker 3: I think, hey, Ai, now there's been a lot of

1749
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 3: hype about AI. I think probably, I think we're starting

1750
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 3: to realize maybe a little bit too much. I'll get

1751
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 3: you across that shortly seventeen away from knowin the Mike.

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01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 2: Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on I have Radio Howard

1753
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 2: by News Talks at b.

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01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 3: Fox is having a field day, by the way, with

1755
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 3: the US cable ratings which has come out for last week.

1756
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 3: And the reason they're having a field day because you

1757
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 3: now have Foxes. Oh, Fox loves having a fight with CNN,

1758
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 3: and so they're rubbing it into CNN how badly CNN

1759
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 3: was doing last week. And remember last week was a

1760
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 3: really big, very busy news week over in the States,

1761
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 3: so you would expect, frankly everywhere, to be honest, you

1762
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 3: would expect that, but particularly in the States, you'd expect

1763
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 3: it a news engaged audience to be tuning into CNN

1764
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 3: because they had the healthcare CEO being shot and then

1765
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 3: them trying to track down the guy who did the shooting.

1766
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 3: Turns out the guy did the shooting is incredibly sexy

1767
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 3: and everybody's into him now. And then you've got Donald

1768
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 3: Trump's cabinet packs, and you've got President Biden pardoning his

1769
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 3: son and the fall out of that, and you get

1770
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 3: all the stuff going on in Syria. St I've said

1771
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,799
Speaker 3: a really big week, right, But CNN the primetime lineup

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01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 3: from eight to eleven at night, they only averaged three

1773
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty seven thousand viewers compared to Fox two

1774
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 3: point five million. So I mean there the gap there

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01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 3: is enormous. But worse than that, CNN got beaten by TNT,

1776
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:26,560
Speaker 3: The Food Network, free Form, Discovery, I NSP, Hallmark Mystery, TLC,

1777
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 3: TBS History, HGTV, USA, MSNBC, Paramount, Hallmark Channel, ESPN, and

1778
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 3: Fox News. So got beaten by seventeen sixteen different channels,

1779
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 3: including a cooking show, which I think would be bleak

1780
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 3: for anybody. Now it's gonna tell you about AI. By

1781
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 3: the way, it's thirteen away from nine I was gonna

1782
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 3: tell about AI. So if you've been following AI closely

1783
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 3: or frankly by now, even if you're just kind of

1784
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 3: keeping a little bit of an eye on what's going

1785
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 3: on with AI, you probably realize that the initial enthusiasm

1786
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 3: that everybody had for this product is too much and

1787
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 3: it's just not going to bear. It's not going to

1788
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 3: be what the hype kids were racking it up to be.

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01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 3: There's an article in the Economist, which I think sums

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01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 3: it up quite well. And this is just with regards

1791
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 3: to just the economic impact of this, because it's supposed

1792
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 3: to change our lives completely. I mean I should have

1793
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,759
Speaker 3: an AI secretary basically doing everything for me. I should

1794
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 3: be able to you know that an hour before my show,

1795
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 3: just say AI in the voice of Heather do Blissy Allen,

1796
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 3: tell me what you think about Wellington City Council and

1797
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 3: it just that should be what it's doing. But it's not,

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01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 3: is it. So The Economist has got a headline titled

1799
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 3: everyone calmed down a little. There will be no immediate

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01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 3: productivity boost from AI, and it's written by their senior

1801
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 3: economics writer and he sums it up at the end

1802
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 3: very well, says will an AI wave break over the

1803
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,839
Speaker 3: economy in twenty twenty five, don't bank on it. Only

1804
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 3: about seven percent of American firms, when asked, say they

1805
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 3: have plans to adopt AI in the coming months. Capital

1806
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 3: spending across the rich world remains fairly weak, suggesting that

1807
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 3: businesses are not investing in the tools that would get AI,

1808
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,719
Speaker 3: that would allow AI to give them a big productivity boost.

1809
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 3: The question for the coming year is how long this

1810
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 3: disconnect between the financial markets and the real economy on

1811
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,679
Speaker 3: the usefulness of AI can endure and what they're meaning

1812
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 3: is obviously if you look at what the AI related

1813
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 3: businesses are doing on the stock exchanges, it's like nuts.

1814
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 3: Everybody's putting their money into it. Everybody's expecting to be

1815
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 3: a rich guy putting money into AI. And then in

1816
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 3: the real world as still crickets, isn't it? How much

1817
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 3: are you using it?

1818
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 4: Me?

1819
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 3: Not really at all. Eleven away from Nme.

1820
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 2: Heather duper c Ellen on them my costing breakfast with

1821
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 2: our feeder retirement communities news togs, he'd be no.

1822
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 3: Still huge enthusiasts for AI out there, Heather, with respect. Unfortunately,

1823
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 3: you're wrong. Once AI has become mainstream, you'll be blown away.

1824
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 3: This is from Jesse Hither, You're wrong. AI is changing

1825
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,719
Speaker 3: our work processes massively. Heither. AI has saved my company

1826
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 3: thousands on development and weeks quicker to release new software features.

1827
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 3: I'm not sure AI is targeted at radio hosts. Maybe not,

1828
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 3: Maybe it's not, although it probably make the experience better

1829
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 3: for you. Once they nail they're pretty close to nailing

1830
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 3: the old you know, comparison with the voice they could

1831
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 3: probably actually mimic me and then make it a better

1832
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 3: product for you. Look, I know people who'd use the AI.

1833
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 3: You know, people who generally sort of do things like

1834
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 3: righte press releases and speeches and stuff like that. They'll

1835
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 3: just get the AI to do it. It works really well

1836
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 3: for them. But the problem with the AI is for them,

1837
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 3: it seems to be related to very specific jobs, isn't it.

1838
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 3: It's like real paper processing jobs for everybody else. That's

1839
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 3: kind of like they're not there quite yet. Hey, just

1840
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 3: really quickly. Lou Vincent not a name I was expecting

1841
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 3: to mention today or ever again, but Lou Vincent weirdly

1842
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 3: has given an interview to the Telegraph in the UK,

1843
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 3: just talking about his life. And I'm not really sure why.

1844
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 3: I can't kind of find like, why is it did

1845
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 3: Lou turn fifty? Has it been ten years? Did Lou

1846
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 3: do something impressive in his life? There seems to be

1847
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 3: no apparent reason for talking to Lou today, But anyway,

1848
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 3: they talk to Lou today and still quite an interesting

1849
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 3: little interview just for what he is up to now.

1850
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 3: Turns out, Lou after the life bands and stuff like that.

1851
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 3: In the Fall from Grace, tried living in Lumsden, but

1852
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 3: they didn't want him in Lunsdon, and some of his

1853
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 3: neighbors took him to the pub and he bought them

1854
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 3: some drinks and they got cross with him, and then

1855
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 3: they kicked him out of the pub. They basically bothered

1856
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 3: him out of the pub and said we don't want

1857
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 3: you anymore. And so he and his wife left Lumsden.

1858
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 3: But now he lives near ninety Mile Beach where everybody's

1859
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 3: a lot more relaxed, and he makes a living doing

1860
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 3: up old houses, renovates old houses, and he both buys

1861
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 3: most of his clothing from the op shop. And the

1862
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,560
Speaker 3: reason for that would be presumably because it all just

1863
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 3: gets ruined by his day job. And when he goes

1864
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,759
Speaker 3: out on the town when he's got to do something important,

1865
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 3: he wears Converse Chuck sneakers, you know, but apart from

1866
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 3: that it sandals will bear feet in keeping with the

1867
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 3: locals and ninety mile Beach. There you go. Something you

1868
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 3: didn't know that you needed to know. Six away from.

1869
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 2: Knowing trending now to film with Chemist Warehouse Great savings

1870
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 2: every day.

1871
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 3: So earlier in the week I gave you the Google

1872
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 3: search list for twenty twenty four. Now I've got amazons

1873
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 3: for you. These are the things that Kiwis asked Alexa

1874
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 3: to do for them. So we're gonna start with the music. Okay,

1875
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 3: no surprises for the winner, and I'm going to get

1876
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 3: to that in a sec. But how about this one?

1877
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 3: This is the fourth most requested song from Alexa. I

1878
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 3: know you're thinking, hold on, it's like, are we in

1879
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 3: the right decade? It might be because the Barbie movie

1880
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 3: came out during the year on streaming services, so everybody

1881
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 3: was like, I know what I need to do after

1882
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 3: watching Barbie's I need to listen to a song about Barbie.

1883
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 3: Then you've got Taylor. She was the most listened to

1884
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 3: artist and frankly, it's just getting boring how many lists

1885
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,640
Speaker 3: she is topping now. And in particular, this was the

1886
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 3: most requested song from Alexa by Kimis this year dead,

1887
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 3: which is not because it came out this year. It's

1888
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 3: just because it's probably the best one, isn't it. We

1889
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 3: were also very obsessed with how tall Taylor is. We

1890
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 3: asked that a lot. Apparently we also asked how tall

1891
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 3: Donald Trump was, maybe because her son is an absolute giant.

1892
01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 3: Also on sport never asked for the rugby score. Don't

1893
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 3: seem to care about that anymore. The two most top

1894
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 3: requested things we were asking for the score in so

1895
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 3: the NRL and the AFL, Which is interesting, isn't it.

1896
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 3: We like to know who X and Y are married to,

1897
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 3: whoever they are. Lots of questions about who whoever's married to.

1898
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 3: Also asked Alexa for recipes. Now, I know what you're thinking. Okay,

1899
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 3: it's going to be something complicated.

1900
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 16: No.

1901
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 3: The most asked for recipe, if you can even call

1902
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 3: it a recipe, is how to do a baked sweet potato,

1903
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 3: which is literally you take a sweet potato, you put

1904
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 3: your oven on bake, and you put the sweet potato

1905
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 3: like that's it. You don't even have to work.

1906
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 16: So you don't just wrap yours in a handytowel and

1907
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 16: stick it in the microwave?

1908
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 3: Is that even baker? I think there's microwaving? Okay, there's

1909
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 3: a problem. It's glimm. The food question most asked of

1910
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 3: Alexa was how to make a baked sweet potato? Also

1911
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:53,480
Speaker 3: asked how long to cook an egg? I know you're pathetic.

1912
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 3: A lot of the rest of desserts double chocolate moose

1913
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 3: cake Now and now we're talking lemon sliced pear and

1914
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 3: blue cheese tarts. Now we're talking. And overall, the most

1915
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 3: asked question was will you marry me? Which I'm thinking

1916
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,679
Speaker 3: is Alexa, will you marry me? In which case that's weird,

1917
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 3: not as embarrassing as the Aussies, though they are four

1918
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 3: times more likely to ask for an insult instead of

1919
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 3: a compliment from Alexa.

1920
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 1: And we are only too happy to oblige.

1921
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 3: I would have thought, oh, I'm happy to sort them out.

1922
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 3: By the way. On the baking thing, to be fair,

1923
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 3: what I would ask Alexa is which are the symbols

1924
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 3: on my oven? Actually is the bake? Because I don't

1925
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 3: know about you, but that seems to be confusing my

1926
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:29,919
Speaker 3: husband on a regular basis.

1927
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 15: And also which two buttons are you supposed to push

1928
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,799
Speaker 15: to set the timer going?

1929
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1930
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 7: You know?

1931
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 3: For daylight savings, can they design an oven where you

1932
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 3: don't need to have the time working in order for

1933
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 3: the oven to work, because nobody needs a clock to

1934
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 3: cook food. Right anyway, Today, Thursday, tomorrow, frayya, We will

1935
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 3: see you then enjoy the rest of your day. News

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Speaker 3: Dogs dB

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