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Speaker 1: So work has halted at the site of the Mount

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Speaker 1: montinery slip after concerns from geotechs around potential future slips.

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Speaker 1: Six people remain unaccounted for. Police have now shifted to

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Speaker 1: a recovery phase. Turtaling and city councilors or also ordered

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Speaker 1: an independent review into the tragedy to establish and examine

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Speaker 1: all the relevant facts of Marhe Drysdale is the Turtling

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Speaker 1: a mayor and joins us, Now, good morning to you,

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Speaker 1: may He.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: You had a tear in your eye on the telly

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Speaker 1: last night. This is a gut wrencher.

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Speaker 2: Oh it is. And you know, I think, really you

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Speaker 2: just got to think what this is like for the

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Speaker 2: families of you know, Lisa Man's, Sharon, Max, Susan, you

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Speaker 2: know it's it's and sorry Jack Well and you know

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Speaker 2: it's it's incredibly hard for them, and you know we

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Speaker 2: can feel it and our community can certainly feel that pain.

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Speaker 1: I'll be likely to see work resuming the slip today.

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Speaker 2: Very hopeful. So last night we had some specialist equipment

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Speaker 2: flown in from Wellington that has been set up last night.

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Speaker 2: The engineers are currently up there at the moment, just

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Speaker 2: ensuring that it's safe for the last thing we wanted

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Speaker 2: to do, obviously, is is put the rescue workers at risk.

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Speaker 1: There are concerns that the cordon's too big and it's

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Speaker 1: affecting businesses. Couldn't we open marine parade?

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Speaker 2: Look, that is something that we are acutely aware of.

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Speaker 2: We're working very closely with police and we would hope

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Speaker 2: that the cordon will be will be made smaller over

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Speaker 2: the next couple of days. And you know, we're going

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Speaker 2: to get alongside, you know, some of those businesses and

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Speaker 2: help them out because this is obviously not something that

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Speaker 2: that is you know they're doing, and you know they've

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Speaker 2: they've been caught up in it. But you know, our

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Speaker 2: community has been absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 1: So you've ordered a review. Some say it might be

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Speaker 1: too early for a blame game because people are still

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Speaker 1: in the ground.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So we're not progressing that work until those six

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Speaker 2: people I mentioned earlier are all brought home to their families.

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Speaker 2: But you know, there is some answers that need to

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Speaker 2: be sorry, some questions that need to be answered, and

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Speaker 2: you know, we're acutely aware that we need to do something.

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Speaker 2: We need to have a good process and we need

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Speaker 2: to get the facts out there so that those questions

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Speaker 2: can be answered.

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Speaker 1: So what are the terms of references? Who's doing it

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Speaker 1: and will it be completely independent and wide ranging?

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Speaker 2: It'll be completely independent. We at this stage, we don't

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Speaker 2: have someone to do it, and we're still working on

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Speaker 2: the terms of reference, so, you know, out of respect

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Speaker 2: for the families, as I said before, until we move

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Speaker 2: on to the next phase, and the next phase happens

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Speaker 2: once we've returned the loved one to their families, then

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Speaker 2: we will we will start to work. But what I

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Speaker 2: will give you as an assurances will stand that up

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Speaker 2: quickly once once we we've recovered those bodies. And you

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Speaker 2: know this, there's a lot of people, you know, talking

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Speaker 2: and having opinions, but we need to we need facts

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Speaker 2: and we need to see exactly what people knew when

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Speaker 2: and and look at the decisions that were made around that.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's very much, you know, for the sake

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Speaker 2: of the families, for our community, and you know, for

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Speaker 2: for ourselves, knowing that that everything was done, that that

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Speaker 2: could be done.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people ask me why the trees were

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Speaker 1: cut down by the Toronto Council and the Order of

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Speaker 1: among authority. Can you answer that now or is that

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Speaker 1: too early too?

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Speaker 2: That will be all all looked at along with you

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Speaker 2: slope and stability. What did we know, what did we

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Speaker 2: not and you know what did we know in the

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Speaker 2: morning of the event? You know, was there a slip?

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Speaker 2: You know who who was notified about that? You know

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Speaker 2: what decisions were made, et cetera. So that there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of information, you know, But we are just very

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Speaker 2: clear the terms of reference will only be up until

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Speaker 2: about nine twenty three when the slip happened. Anything that

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Speaker 2: happened after that, there'll be further investigations, I'm sure by

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Speaker 2: step in. We're not we're not trying to get in

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Speaker 2: the way of those investigations. Those will happen, but you know,

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Speaker 2: we want to know from what happened up until the

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Speaker 2: time of that slip, and what.

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Speaker 1: Have we learned for tomorrow, because allegations are fine that

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Speaker 1: we've had five years of extreme weather on the East

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Speaker 1: Coast and multiple occurrences of this kind of events and

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Speaker 1: slippage is all over the place and this could have

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Speaker 1: been predicted. So how can we be sure that place

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Speaker 1: are safe if it starts to rain like it rained

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Speaker 1: last week, but it rains like this tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look at the end of the day, we live

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Speaker 2: in in a country of in stable soils, and you know,

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Speaker 2: if you look at any event where we're going to

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Speaker 2: have slips, it's very hard in a lot of cases

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Speaker 2: you know, I think if if we went and red

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Speaker 2: don't think that would satisfy people. So you know, there

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Speaker 2: there is It's about risk, it's about managing risk, and

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Speaker 2: you know, unfortunately sometimes you know, these sort of things happen.

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Speaker 2: This is that tragedy, and we want to know whether

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Speaker 2: there should have been more done, and you know, those

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Speaker 2: those of a sort of lessons that we need to

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Speaker 2: take and we need to learn and make sure that

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Speaker 2: the community is safe.

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Speaker 1: All right, Mahi, keep calm, carry on, and I thank

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Speaker 1: you for your time today. That's why he drives our

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