1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: And American band Tenacious D has turned out to be 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: not quite as tenacious as the name suspects. They have 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: canceled their Wellington and Auckland shows after backlash surrounding controversial 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: comments about the attempted assassination of Donald Trump. Band member 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: Kyle Gas said on stage quote don't miss Trump next 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: time during their Sydney show. Jack Black, his BANDMATEE, has 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: signaled via social media that all future creative plans are 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: on hold. Janita nevel Tededitor is a marketing expert and 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: managing director of RX and as well US This evening, Yoda, 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: good evening, good evening, How are you very well? Thanks? 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: Come on? Do they really need to cancel their entire 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: tour over this? 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: Look, it's really tough because I think the fans will 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: be feeling gutted. But it's not an overreaction. You know. 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: The comments that were said are totally inappropriate. They might 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: feel a little innoxious, but I think canceling was totally justified. 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't know see even that canceling right. If you 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: think about Donald Trump, Donald Trump's all about hating on 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: cancel culture. So isn't this the kind of cancel culture 20 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: that Trump's aborders hate. 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 2: Oh gosh here and it probably feels like fake news 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: as well. But if you think about the comments and 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: the type of people that are involved in you know, 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: political camps, this is something that's really highly volatile. It's 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: about an individual, if you like him not, who you know, 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: can express his freedom and shouldn't be you know, punished 27 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 2: as a result. That's what democracy is all about. 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't wasn't it just a joke? 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: Though? 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not saying it was a good joke 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: or a tasteful joke even, But isn't it just a joke? 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: Look? I think us Kiwi's in US and you know 33 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: it started and Ossie, we're a little bit laid back. 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: We do take a bit of a joke. We sit 35 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: in that moderate camp. But when it gets to politics 36 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: like this, In situations like this, people can be extremists. 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: We're not used to that, and you know, you have 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: to take those type of things into consideration. Whilst it 39 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: feels like a joke, it was about something that was 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: actually quite serious. 41 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: So how much apprecia do you reckon? There would have 42 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: been from you know, advertisers and sponsors and that kind 43 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: of thing. 44 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: Look, I reckon. These guys were a step ahead of 45 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: the game and they reacted before anyone else could. Because 46 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: just think about the pr fallout after that, because whilst 47 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: Trump wasn't hurt, other people were and that'sn't really that funny. 48 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: And you're right, that's what advertisers would react to when 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: and maybe some extremists as well. 50 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I suppose you know, and one sense 51 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: this might help to protect fans, even if it means 52 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: they're not going to be seeing their favorite band. 53 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: Oh look, I think as much as we don't like it, 54 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: the world is not as safe as we sometimes think, 55 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: and we've seen some horrible things happen at concerts than 56 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: it is. It's about protecting the hand bands. Well's case scenario. 57 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 2: You might have a protest that you've got to get 58 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 2: through sort of as a best case. Worst case could 59 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: be far worse. So they do have to put their 60 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: hands first and also think about the venue that they 61 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: were at as well. So taking a real assessment of 62 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: what might happen. As much as we wouldn't like to 63 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: think we're in you know, countries that that might happen, 64 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: they do have to think about that. 65 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: So Jack Black said on social media afterwards that quote 66 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: all future creative plans are on hold for Tenacious D. 67 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, canceling a tour is one thing that's 68 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: a pretty big call, But canceling a friendship. Come on, 69 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: that man's too far right. 70 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: Oh look, if you know it sort of sucks. Yes, 71 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: But there's commerciality within this as well, and Jack Black 72 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: probably has to think about what is his the future 73 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: capability of earning money, and sometimes that is impacted by 74 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: the people you hang out with, because maybe people won't 75 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: book him again, maybe he won't get gigs. He does 76 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: have to think about that. But if anything, they've made 77 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: a good call in owning it and making apology in 78 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: saying that they are going to be reflective about this. 79 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, hey, thanks so much for your time. 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