1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,453 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,453 --> 00:00:14,733 Speaker 2: A'd be thank you for your messages, Jack, so many 4 00:00:14,773 --> 00:00:18,533 Speaker 2: memories for us. All of New Zealand had its finest cisling. Yeah, 5 00:00:18,613 --> 00:00:22,013 Speaker 2: I mean it is. It's always funny. You get kind 6 00:00:22,013 --> 00:00:24,733 Speaker 2: of nostalgic, don't you look back? I mean, just look, 7 00:00:25,053 --> 00:00:27,173 Speaker 2: just look at that. An eighty five square meter house 8 00:00:27,293 --> 00:00:30,373 Speaker 2: on a nine hundred and something square meter section. It is, 9 00:00:30,413 --> 00:00:32,173 Speaker 2: you know, that's what That's a true quarter acre, right. 10 00:00:32,573 --> 00:00:34,693 Speaker 2: I just remember as the kid, it was fast like 11 00:00:34,773 --> 00:00:37,893 Speaker 2: Grandad's section just felt so big you can kind of 12 00:00:37,893 --> 00:00:39,973 Speaker 2: get lost. It just meant that Hide and Seek was 13 00:00:39,973 --> 00:00:42,653 Speaker 2: always so much better, you know. Anyway, ninety two ninety two, 14 00:00:42,653 --> 00:00:44,333 Speaker 2: if you want to send us a messages this morning, 15 00:00:44,973 --> 00:00:46,853 Speaker 2: please do tell me. If you drive that stretches State 16 00:00:46,933 --> 00:00:49,893 Speaker 2: I One more regularly than I do between ash Vegas 17 00:00:49,893 --> 00:00:55,293 Speaker 2: and christ Church, tell me please assure me that the 18 00:00:55,333 --> 00:00:58,053 Speaker 2: potholes aren't usually as bad as they have been this week. 19 00:00:58,133 --> 00:01:00,613 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously there's been so much rain, right, so 20 00:01:00,653 --> 00:01:03,293 Speaker 2: those potholes are pretty enormous. But my goodness, I just 21 00:01:03,293 --> 00:01:06,213 Speaker 2: couldn't believe the state of the road. I could not believe. 22 00:01:07,333 --> 00:01:09,333 Speaker 2: I'll get to more of your feedback very shortly right now, though. 23 00:01:09,413 --> 00:01:13,653 Speaker 2: Kevin Milne is with us this morning. Calder, Kevin Jack. 24 00:01:13,733 --> 00:01:16,573 Speaker 3: I've got very warm memories of Ashburton as well. My 25 00:01:16,933 --> 00:01:19,413 Speaker 3: oldest sister lived there when she got married. Noturs to 26 00:01:19,413 --> 00:01:21,213 Speaker 3: go down to the state, but I tell you one 27 00:01:21,253 --> 00:01:23,813 Speaker 3: thing I remember so much that you were the me 28 00:01:24,133 --> 00:01:27,333 Speaker 3: envy me for I once went to the Ashburton Domain 29 00:01:28,053 --> 00:01:31,173 Speaker 3: to see the MCC cricket team. Wow. 30 00:01:31,853 --> 00:01:32,693 Speaker 2: Really, where was that? 31 00:01:33,653 --> 00:01:36,533 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. They were playing some Canterbury side 32 00:01:37,213 --> 00:01:43,453 Speaker 3: with the MCC side with glittering names. Yes, touring New Zealand, 33 00:01:43,653 --> 00:01:46,413 Speaker 3: and Ashburton was one of the places that they are. 34 00:01:46,773 --> 00:01:50,253 Speaker 3: They played a test match at. 35 00:01:50,253 --> 00:01:51,853 Speaker 2: Least feature match. 36 00:01:51,893 --> 00:01:54,293 Speaker 3: Yeah four days or yeah, four day game. 37 00:01:54,373 --> 00:01:57,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, how good? The Ashburton Domain A, it's a it's 38 00:01:58,093 --> 00:02:00,973 Speaker 2: one of those, you know, like fantastic you know, sometimes 39 00:02:01,013 --> 00:02:03,013 Speaker 2: you get them in parts of regional New Zealand, like 40 00:02:03,173 --> 00:02:06,493 Speaker 2: really really amazing public space. I always loved the flying 41 00:02:06,533 --> 00:02:09,173 Speaker 2: fox at the esh Button Domain always had the flying fox, 42 00:02:09,213 --> 00:02:10,613 Speaker 2: you know, like one of those proper ones that probably 43 00:02:10,613 --> 00:02:14,213 Speaker 2: wouldn't pass a health and safety laws these days. But yeah, Anyway, 44 00:02:14,253 --> 00:02:16,893 Speaker 2: Hey Keven, you have been reflecting over the last twenty 45 00:02:16,933 --> 00:02:19,293 Speaker 2: four hours or so on the life and times of 46 00:02:19,293 --> 00:02:20,053 Speaker 2: SA Bob Jones. 47 00:02:20,733 --> 00:02:23,613 Speaker 3: Yeah. Jack, As you know, when you work in television, 48 00:02:24,053 --> 00:02:28,693 Speaker 3: you've got to expect some criticism, some nasti reviews. But 49 00:02:28,773 --> 00:02:32,133 Speaker 3: the king of the Nazi review was SA Bob Jones, 50 00:02:32,173 --> 00:02:36,253 Speaker 3: who died yesterday. One review of a Fairgo story I'd 51 00:02:36,293 --> 00:02:39,133 Speaker 3: done I've kept. It's a bit of a classic. It 52 00:02:39,173 --> 00:02:41,853 Speaker 3: refers to one of the best stories I ever did 53 00:02:41,893 --> 00:02:44,773 Speaker 3: on Fairgo. Actually it ended up in the courts all 54 00:02:44,813 --> 00:02:47,213 Speaker 3: the way up to the Court of Appeal and Fairgo 55 00:02:47,333 --> 00:02:51,653 Speaker 3: won it that Bob didn't like it. Bob's review was 56 00:02:51,813 --> 00:02:55,333 Speaker 3: lengthy and here is just some of the lines from it. 57 00:02:55,333 --> 00:02:59,493 Speaker 3: It appeared in Wellington's Dominion newspaper headlined would you buy 58 00:02:59,533 --> 00:03:04,013 Speaker 3: a fair Go used car story? It begins one of 59 00:03:04,013 --> 00:03:09,373 Speaker 3: the worst examples of defamatory television journalism abuse I have 60 00:03:09,493 --> 00:03:15,213 Speaker 3: ever heard, shamelessly ignorant and grossly unfair. According to the 61 00:03:15,493 --> 00:03:20,293 Speaker 3: smug mediocrites who present this show, this was an example 62 00:03:20,333 --> 00:03:27,533 Speaker 3: of moral and ethical turpitude, demanding nationwide exposure. This bumptuous 63 00:03:27,653 --> 00:03:32,573 Speaker 3: shower at Fairgo knows nothing about commercial practice. According to 64 00:03:32,653 --> 00:03:37,133 Speaker 3: these buffoons, this was a one off revelation that they 65 00:03:37,173 --> 00:03:44,053 Speaker 3: had discovered. It was a disgrace. It was unjust, ignorant, unbalanced, defametry, 66 00:03:44,333 --> 00:03:48,773 Speaker 3: and in my view, a crime against decency. It was, 67 00:03:48,813 --> 00:03:52,413 Speaker 3: in one word, sleazy. The program has a lack of 68 00:03:52,453 --> 00:03:57,213 Speaker 3: balance and has witch hunting tendencies. So Bob ended that 69 00:03:57,373 --> 00:04:03,773 Speaker 3: with fairgoes a row of smug, supercilious and ignorant talking heads. 70 00:04:04,493 --> 00:04:10,053 Speaker 3: It's garbage and should be closed down smartly. Anyway, that 71 00:04:10,173 --> 00:04:13,893 Speaker 3: was way back in nineteen eighty eight, and Fago continued 72 00:04:13,973 --> 00:04:17,533 Speaker 3: successfully for another thirty six years. I later got to 73 00:04:17,573 --> 00:04:20,213 Speaker 3: know and quite enjoyed so but I had some once. 74 00:04:20,293 --> 00:04:23,653 Speaker 3: If he remembered the review, he said he didn't. But 75 00:04:23,733 --> 00:04:28,453 Speaker 3: Bob Jones will be remembered as a terrific writer. Jack 76 00:04:28,613 --> 00:04:33,213 Speaker 3: Wellington already feels all the more gray for his parting. 77 00:04:33,173 --> 00:04:34,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, I. 78 00:04:35,653 --> 00:04:35,773 Speaker 3: Can. 79 00:04:35,973 --> 00:04:38,813 Speaker 2: I can tell you that. Similarly, Bob Jones was no 80 00:04:38,933 --> 00:04:42,293 Speaker 2: great fan of mine. However I actually had. I actually 81 00:04:42,293 --> 00:04:44,733 Speaker 2: went and saw him a few years ago. It was 82 00:04:44,813 --> 00:04:48,013 Speaker 2: very interesting. It was just before COVID. It was like 83 00:04:48,253 --> 00:04:51,573 Speaker 2: literally about a week before the COVID lockdown in New Zealand. 84 00:04:51,573 --> 00:04:56,453 Speaker 2: And that's when, you know, senior government officials were kind 85 00:04:56,493 --> 00:04:59,493 Speaker 2: of not really considering the prospect of lockdowns or anything 86 00:04:59,533 --> 00:05:02,173 Speaker 2: like that. And he said to me, you watched this. 87 00:05:02,173 --> 00:05:03,573 Speaker 2: This whole country is going to be locked down in 88 00:05:03,573 --> 00:05:05,733 Speaker 2: a week or two. The global economy is going to 89 00:05:05,733 --> 00:05:07,853 Speaker 2: be totally dis up, all of the supply chain is 90 00:05:07,893 --> 00:05:09,533 Speaker 2: going to be a massive issue. You just wait in 91 00:05:09,573 --> 00:05:11,013 Speaker 2: New Zealand. It's going to need to port from the 92 00:05:11,013 --> 00:05:13,693 Speaker 2: government all these things. And then, of course, about three 93 00:05:13,773 --> 00:05:15,933 Speaker 2: days later he just proved to be one hundred percent right. 94 00:05:16,213 --> 00:05:19,133 Speaker 2: But you know, I know there are some people, you 95 00:05:19,133 --> 00:05:22,013 Speaker 2: know who have you been upset by comments he's made 96 00:05:22,053 --> 00:05:24,573 Speaker 2: over the years, And certainly he's he's not been a 97 00:05:24,613 --> 00:05:27,013 Speaker 2: shrinking violent when it comes to, you know, saying what 98 00:05:27,053 --> 00:05:27,773 Speaker 2: he really thinks. 99 00:05:28,333 --> 00:05:30,773 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's not about as long as it's not 100 00:05:30,813 --> 00:05:33,973 Speaker 3: about you, it can be most enjoyable reading some of 101 00:05:34,013 --> 00:05:34,973 Speaker 3: his pieces, you. 102 00:05:35,013 --> 00:05:38,773 Speaker 2: Sort of feel like this, you know, like he's such 103 00:05:38,813 --> 00:05:40,333 Speaker 2: a character. You know, you sort of feel like the 104 00:05:40,453 --> 00:05:43,773 Speaker 2: character like that couldn't quite exist in the modern age anymore, 105 00:05:43,813 --> 00:05:45,173 Speaker 2: you know, which is which is a bit of a shame. 106 00:05:45,373 --> 00:05:49,093 Speaker 3: Yeah, I gave the speech at Barry soaper's seventieth birthday 107 00:05:49,173 --> 00:05:51,653 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, and we were chatting, Bob 108 00:05:51,693 --> 00:05:54,613 Speaker 3: and were chatting beforehand, and I give him a speech 109 00:05:54,653 --> 00:05:58,053 Speaker 3: and he suddenly he suddenly lets out with your bloody 110 00:05:58,173 --> 00:06:02,653 Speaker 3: ugly milk, and but you but you learn that he 111 00:06:02,693 --> 00:06:05,773 Speaker 3: didn't mean it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was just all 112 00:06:05,773 --> 00:06:06,813 Speaker 3: part of the pant Yeah. 113 00:06:06,973 --> 00:06:08,773 Speaker 2: All very good. Hey, thanks Givin. You have a good 114 00:06:08,773 --> 00:06:12,213 Speaker 2: weekend and we will catch again really soon. Kevin melm 115 00:06:12,253 --> 00:06:12,933 Speaker 2: with us this morning. 116 00:06:13,493 --> 00:06:16,613 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live 117 00:06:16,693 --> 00:06:19,533 Speaker 1: to News Talks at B from nine am Saturday, or 118 00:06:19,573 --> 00:06:21,493 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio