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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's real Estate covering all your real estate

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Speaker 1: needs news tog's head be Hlly.

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Speaker 2: Welcome well today. How long does a simple idea take

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Speaker 2: to get across the line? The PM and Peter's on

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Speaker 2: foreign buyers, Good news on housing as mortgage money starts

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Speaker 2: to flow more freely. Ben Bailey, host of in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: Food Story, owner of half a dozen successful restaurants, on

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Speaker 2: hospital and successes with us after Right, Catherine Field in

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Speaker 2: Paris and Rod Little does the Money UK Pascal it

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Speaker 2: a Tuesday seven past six. Wow, we got there lasted

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Speaker 2: and't we? I mean, if you're a Golden visa holder,

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Speaker 2: that's a person who puts five or ten million into

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Speaker 2: the country, you can buy a house. The idea that

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Speaker 2: we expected you to put that sort of money into

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Speaker 2: a country but then rent what was and is absurd.

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Speaker 2: Not to get into the weeds too deeply. The Golden

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Speaker 2: visa as different to the one hundred and eighty three

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Speaker 2: days rule. The Golden visa means you can invest but

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Speaker 2: not be here for one hundred and eighty three days,

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Speaker 2: but now means you do qualify for a five million

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Speaker 2: dollar plus home. None of this is complex, none of

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Speaker 2: this needed to be as as it turned out to be.

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Speaker 2: You will note from the Winston Peters comments he has

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Speaker 2: preserved his ongoing dislike for the so called foreigners coming

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Speaker 2: here and snapping up the countryside and locking the rest

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Speaker 2: of us out of the market, none of which happened,

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Speaker 2: of course, but the xenophobic streak runs deep in the

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Speaker 2: party clearly. But if you go back to National's original

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Speaker 2: idea of two million dollars, a lot of water has

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Speaker 2: gone under that bridge, a lot of banging of heads

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Speaker 2: has clearly happened, and some people have had to be

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Speaker 2: drag kicking and screaming to what I would have thought

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Speaker 2: was a fairly obvious finish line. The weird thing for

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Speaker 2: me about Peter's is this is the same bloke who's

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Speaker 2: out in the world pleading with said world to come

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Speaker 2: and invest and come and do business. We are open.

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Speaker 2: Is trying on one hand to desperately rectify the damage

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Speaker 2: of the Labour government covid era, while at the same

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Speaker 2: time doing the old New Zealand first cake and eat

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Speaker 2: at two trick, Please come, please bring your money. But oh,

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Speaker 2: given you a foreigner, can you airbn B? I mean

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Speaker 2: it's nonsense. At five million, it changes little or nothing

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Speaker 2: for you and me. It's a tiny portion of homes.

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Speaker 2: It's a couple of million pounds at three million American bucks.

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Speaker 2: For some global citizens it's pocket change. But it all

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Speaker 2: helps a man. Do we need help? The worry is

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Speaker 2: the difficulty in getting here easy obvious decisions should not

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Speaker 2: be hard, they should be quick and slick. But it

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Speaker 2: all helps. It was a good day for New Zealand and.

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Speaker 3: News of the world. In ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: With the fn earth quake, eight hundred twenty five hundred

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Speaker 2: injured a lot of survivors.

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Speaker 4: The earthquake struck at midnight. Children are trapped under the rubble.

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Speaker 4: The elderly are under the rubble. Young people are under

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Speaker 4: the rubble. We need help here. Nearly ninety five percent

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Speaker 4: of our village houses are destroyed.

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Speaker 3: We have many martyred and wounded people.

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Speaker 2: You can imagine the rescue operation.

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Speaker 5: Rescue work is underway in various areas, and we have

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Speaker 5: some areas where rescue teams have not yet reached due

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Speaker 2: We had reached them via helicopter, but not by road.

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Speaker 6: As it's very difficult.

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Speaker 2: In the Middle East, also a missed but for different reasons.

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Speaker 2: The back and forward over a journalist excess to gas

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Speaker 2: and continues.

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Speaker 1: Which organizations were from them recently them at least one,

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Speaker 1: at least once a week in many of the weeks,

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Speaker 1: twice the week.

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Speaker 3: Dozens of week.

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Speaker 7: Which organizations are later on which media organizations.

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Speaker 8: Wider organizations, and we're also participating with foreign press associations.

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Speaker 2: Now then we go to Europe, where a number of

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Speaker 2: semi dramatic things have unfolded. Firstly, vonder Land's plane on

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Speaker 2: approach to Bulgaria yesterday had as gps GM by the Russian.

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Speaker 9: Treats and intimidations that are a regular component of Russia's

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Speaker 9: hostile behavior. This incident actually underlines the urgency of the

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Speaker 9: mission that the president is carrying out in the frontline

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Speaker 2: In the UK, what looks like something close to panic

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Speaker 2: is Stama reshaping his office and the Home Secretary reshapes

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Speaker 10: We need to close all asylum hotels, and we need

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Speaker 10: to do so for good, but that must be done

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Speaker 10: in a controlled and orderly manner and not through a

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Speaker 10: return to the previous government's chaos that led to the

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Speaker 2: Queen shared and sat through a new book of the

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Speaker 2: time as a teenager she took on a sexual devian

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Speaker 11: She now feels quite pragmatic about it and thinks if

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Speaker 11: people realize that there's no shame or stigma to being

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Speaker 11: a victim of these experiences, perhaps might make it easier

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Speaker 11: for other women and girls to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Talk to him with a shoe apparently led to an arrest. Finally,

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Speaker 2: Guinness Book of World Records has turned seventy, so they

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Speaker 2: are revealing the records as yet unclaimed starters for ten

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Speaker 2: if you're interested, most whoopee cushions sat on in one minute,

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Speaker 2: fastest time to blow a stamped teen meters to most

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Speaker 2: high fives and thirty seconds, fastest four hundred meters sack race,

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Speaker 2: and the fastest time to ascend the height of Everest

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Speaker 2: by basketball, amongst others. Use the world and record in

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Speaker 2: the ninety city. Yes, Darbo, it's all internal. He needs

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Speaker 2: some more advisors, so he's hired a whole bunch of people,

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Speaker 2: some of them from the Bank of England. That Parat's

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Speaker 2: moderately interesting. Cooper's thing is more interesting. She suspended the

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Speaker 2: refugee family reunion applications. As the Tory said in the House,

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Speaker 2: if you arrive in Britain illegally, you should not be

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Speaker 2: allowed to bring your family. There's no kidding meantime. Leguard

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Speaker 2: and we'll probably cover this off with Catherine Leguard as

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Speaker 2: in Christine Leguard, the European Central bankhead has given a

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Speaker 2: speech said if Trump gets hold of the US Federal Reserve,

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Speaker 2: it represent a very serious dange to the global economy.

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Speaker 2: So she's laying it on thick as well. It's a

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Speaker 2: busy morning, twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Joe Bugners died. Remember Joe Bugner's seventy five years old.

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Speaker 2: He was He was in a care home in Brisbane

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Speaker 2: in Australia. He was Hungarian born, but he was British

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Speaker 2: and Australian. Henry Coopery beat if you're into boxing in

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Speaker 2: seventy one became the British, European and Commonwealth heavyweight titles.

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Speaker 2: He ended with a record of sixty nine victories, forty

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Speaker 2: one by knockout. His big claim to fame, of course,

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Speaker 2: was he went the distance with Ali back in seventy

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Speaker 2: three and seventy five. Fifteen past six, Joy and my wealth,

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Speaker 2: Andrew Keller her, good morning, very good morning, my love,

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Speaker 2: Building consents. We building, though? Is the question?

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Speaker 8: Well, we Hey, Mike, is it fair to say that

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Speaker 8: in the last few weeks we've seen a little bit

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Speaker 8: of a lift up in general economic centric I think

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Speaker 8: we have, and that's helped, of course by the dovers

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Speaker 8: shift in the RB and Z thinking. But as ever, now,

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Speaker 8: even though we've got that, we now wait, as we

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Speaker 8: have been doing for most of twenty twenty five, for

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Speaker 8: the numbers sort of to turn meaningfully. And we know

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Speaker 8: the construction sector is one that is really feeling the

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Speaker 8: effects of the sort of economic slow down, compounded of

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Speaker 8: course by the very lackluster residential property market, and we

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Speaker 8: need we need to see a lift in building contents,

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Speaker 8: I think, to give us confidence that the residential property

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Speaker 8: sector is really recovering. Now we aren't seeing that lift,

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Speaker 8: but we can say with confidence that the numbers are

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Speaker 8: very stable. We have built a very solid base. The

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Speaker 8: problem is, as we keep comparing ourselves to those crazy

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Speaker 8: times in twenty twenty one twenty twenty two, which kind

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Speaker 8: of doesn't help. They were weird. Now, in July thirty three,

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Speaker 8: eight hundred and seventy nine new homes were consented. That's

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Speaker 8: down zero point one percent compared to the year end

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Speaker 8: very stable now of interest. If you look at the breakdown,

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Speaker 8: standalone dwellings rose one point seven percent, offset by fall

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Speaker 8: in multi unit dwelling consents. But within that multi unit category,

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Speaker 8: apartment consents of how to jump now, they are by

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Speaker 8: their very nature lumpy, so we do have to be

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Speaker 8: careful of that of just one one spike. But there's

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Speaker 8: twenty six percent more apartments were consented for the year

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Speaker 8: compared to the year to July twenty twenty four, which

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Speaker 8: sounds like an awful lot, doesn't it. But it's still

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Speaker 8: only twenty two hundred and seventy nine concents out of

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Speaker 8: not a huge proportion of them regionally. Mike, again not

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Speaker 8: surprising that apartment lift as an Auckland story, so lifted

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Speaker 8: the Auckland twelve month numbers up five percent and you go, well,

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Speaker 8: that's exciting, But you scan the rest of the country, Canterbury,

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Speaker 8: even Canterbury the twelve month total down two point six percent,

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Speaker 8: the Waikato down seven point one. But there is good

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Speaker 8: news in this making that the consents are very stable.

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Speaker 8: They're not falling.

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Speaker 8: What about Australia, Well, yeah, staying in the same lane.

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Speaker 8: I'm not sure why we keep doing this to our salves,

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Speaker 8: this constant comparison with Australia, but we do, don't we

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Speaker 8: And in the property lane, you could characterize their property

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Speaker 8: looking at the latest catality report Capital city houses over

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Speaker 8: there up zero point eight percent in August, which doesn't

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Speaker 8: that's a very healthy run rate. But the thing is

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Speaker 8: that's not happening in isolation. You're seeing good growth in

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Speaker 8: growth in building approvals over there, you're probably also going

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Speaker 8: to see further interest rate cuts. And I read an

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Speaker 8: article in the AFI yesterday where you had a property expert.

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Speaker 8: They were actually invoking the potential return of FOMO to

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Speaker 8: But the last six Australia now might now looking a

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Speaker 8: little stronger. And if you know this is a I

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Speaker 8: know this is a fabricated number, but if you analyze,

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Speaker 8: if you annualize the six month numbers, you get very

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Speaker 8: perky numbers. Capital cities seven point one percent annualized, Darwin

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Speaker 8: almost twenty percent, Brisbane ten point two per nine point six.

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Speaker 8: I might if our little wager was on Australian cities,

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Speaker 8: you'd be in the money. You'd be in the money.

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Speaker 2: But I just said, it's not I just got the

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Speaker 2: wrong country, didn't I my fault.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 8: So you were almost there, you are.

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Speaker 2: I was just slightly to the left. Now, what you

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Speaker 2: like the Golden Visa?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, look, I think that makes absolute sense. It's just

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Speaker 8: such a sensible announcement in terms of complimenting the Golden

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Speaker 8: Visa offering as you've just said, as you said in

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Speaker 8: your editor you cannot expect somebody coming in taking a

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Speaker 8: residential visa, putting that amount of money and then tell

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Speaker 8: them they've got to rent it. So it's the central

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Speaker 8: sensible announcement saw percentage of actual actual housing stock. And

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Speaker 8: I think a good move, a sensible move, and i'd

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Speaker 8: like you though, I can't believe it took us that

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Speaker 2: It's amazing, eh. I think there's there's a story to

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Speaker 2: Yep, sorry I retract? Do I I don't know. It's

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Speaker 2: It's been told a million times over in the last

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Speaker 2: year on year. Monica Lacy is Centric's chief operating officer.

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Speaker 2: In his back, well this Monica, good morning to you.

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Speaker 13: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Do we feel a vibe here?

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Speaker 13: Possibly? I think a lot of the new mortgage lending

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Speaker 2: Good piece of clarification. So what you term new mortgage

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Speaker 13: It's a combination. That's actually the RBNZ definition.

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Speaker 2: So it's both okay, twenty four percent, so a lot

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Speaker 13: Yet not from our data.

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Speaker 2: And I okay, does anyone crunch the numbers on what

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Speaker 2: If I ask you a pop question now, Monica, the

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Speaker 13: The indication certainly is that we'll see at least another one.

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Speaker 2: The reason I ask you that question is there was

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Speaker 13: Yeah, that's very well. It definitely sounds like it doesn't that. Sorry,

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Speaker 13: it's a shame actually, because what we need is people

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Speaker 2: Exactly as far as things or money is owed at

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Speaker 2: Good to hear in ninety days and that numbers actually

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Speaker 2: Good stuff all right, Nice to catch up as always,

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Speaker 2: the way, just quickly on the listings yesterday more listings,

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Speaker 2: Past Captain wind You good morning, mate, So I end

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Speaker 2: a Lyon's on the plane yesterday. And this comes off

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Speaker 2: the back of that attack on the officers here. This

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Speaker 2: is getting really problematic, isn't it.

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Speaker 15: It's getting a little bit close to the bone. You're

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Speaker 15: quite right, Mike, and there is concerned that kat as

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Speaker 15: you rightly said last week, those Russian attacks on the

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Speaker 15: Ukrainian capital Kiev, there was damage done to the EU's

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Speaker 15: delegation office there and the capitol. And then, of course,

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Speaker 15: as you say on Sunday, Erstena Vonderlin had been on

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Speaker 15: quite an extensive tour of frontline state. She'd been to Finland,

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Speaker 15: the Baltic States, remaining in Poland, and this was the

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Speaker 15: final leg that was to support, which was, you know,

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Speaker 15: quite a difficult airport to land it really because it's

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Speaker 15: right in central Bulgaria, quite away from the coastline there.

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Speaker 15: And suddenly the electronic navigation on that plane was jammed.

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Speaker 15: The entire satellite system was jammed, couldn't use any of

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Speaker 15: the electronic navigational aids and in fact had to go

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Speaker 15: back to using this ground based navigational aid which, of

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Speaker 15: course in some of our Leman's turns me maps looking

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Speaker 15: at where the hills are, checking where the runway is.

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Speaker 15: Essentially the plane had to circle for about an hour

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Speaker 15: above above the airport there. Unfortunately, Mike, this isn't the

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Speaker 15: first time we've had this happen. It's been quite often

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Speaker 15: occurring in the Baltic Sea around that area since twenty

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Speaker 15: twenty two. I think the biggest one we saw before

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Speaker 15: this might remember March last year, the UK Defense Secretary,

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Speaker 15: he was on a flight back to the UK from Poland.

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Speaker 15: Again happened, there's jamming the satellite system. It's assumed the

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Speaker 15: Russians carried out this jamming of the system as well

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Speaker 15: as last year for the UK Defense Secretary, certainly just

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Speaker 15: a concern that perhaps just you know, mister Putin should

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Speaker 15: step back a little, getting a bit too close to

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Speaker 15: the bone for some Europeans.

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Speaker 2: Call me Nai, but have we given up on Putin?

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Speaker 2: Vzelenski in a meeting room.

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Speaker 15: Were given up on that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 15: And I think what do we see the Russian Foreign

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Speaker 15: Minister lever Off last week he said, well, there's got

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Speaker 15: to be a lot of work to be done before

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Speaker 15: anything like this.

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Speaker 5: I think we can read that.

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Speaker 2: The security guarantee thing related matters if the Europeans go

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Speaker 2: in as a security guarantee, is that boots on the ground.

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Speaker 15: Depends how you talked to a bit of a concern

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Speaker 15: about this one, Mike, because still Wonderline was making a

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Speaker 15: big thing over the weekend, particularly also in an interview

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Speaker 15: with The Financial Times, that the European Commission had put

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Speaker 15: together what she described as a pretty precise plan of engagement,

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Speaker 15: which meant boots on the ground in Ukraine once there

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Speaker 15: has been some sort of ceasefire, once it's been some

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Speaker 15: sort of peace plant. Well, we're a long way from that.

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Speaker 15: The German defenseman is that just in the last couple

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Speaker 15: of hours has hit the roof about this idea, said

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Speaker 15: there's fundamentally wrong to be discussing these sorts of logistics

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Speaker 15: even when there isn't the opening of peace negotiations, but

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Speaker 15: also pretty much saying, look, you know, the European Commission

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Speaker 15: has got no competency and there's no responsibility for this.

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Speaker 15: So already seen Europeans arguing about this. But at the

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Speaker 15: same time, Mike, you know we're looking at later this

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Speaker 15: week the collition of the Willing meeting to discuss security guarantees.

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Speaker 15: Now that's very different from boots on the ground, isn't it.

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Speaker 15: And of course France and the UK have been talking

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Speaker 15: about the possibility of troops on the ground, but other

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Speaker 15: countries such as Germany, Italy, they're not so keen.

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Speaker 2: Well, just give us quickly on the reguard speech in

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Speaker 2: this business of Trump allegedly taking over the fee and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure if there's a lot to worry about, Catherine,

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Speaker 2: there is a.

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Speaker 15: Lot to worry about. And essentially what Legand is saying

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Speaker 15: is read the signals that are coming out of the US.

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Speaker 15: This is going to affect us all. It's not just

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Speaker 15: this signal going hey, watch out, you cannot trust our

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Speaker 15: figures and when it comes to the US, you cannot

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Speaker 15: trust our markets. You cannot trust this. She is saying,

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Speaker 15: this is going to affect us all and watch out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, just quickly this time next week the big

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Speaker 2: votes on the confidence vote, Do we have any sense

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Speaker 2: of numbers? Are they going to lose it or not?

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Speaker 15: For the budget, well, there's no consensus whatsoever that he

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Speaker 15: will win. I mean French prime minister is he's not powerful,

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Speaker 15: he's not popular enough to carry this through. And the

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Speaker 15: thing was this big announcement he made in an interview

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Speaker 15: over the weekend. He's just said, how dre The situation

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Speaker 15: is that it's been twenty years spend span spent well not.

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Speaker 15: What the people are saying is yeah, but you're the

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Speaker 15: same politicians that have been spending this money. They really

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Speaker 15: do not have public confidence that these same politicians are

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Speaker 15: going to kind of come up with the answers.

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Speaker 2: All right, listen, you're so good, Catherine. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: get you back Thursday, so all right, don't go anyway.

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Speaker 2: Nice to see Catherine Field in for Joe on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Catherine Field out of Francis Whey. By the way, europe

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Speaker 2: are buying these American weapons announced yesterday three and a

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Speaker 2: half thousand extended range cruise missiles at GPS navigation kits.

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Speaker 2: That's off to Ukraine. Congress needs to formally approve it,

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Speaker 2: but it's eight hundred and twenty five US million. Denmark,

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Speaker 2: Netherlands and Norway are paying it. It's one of these

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Speaker 2: first purchases that the Europeans have agreed to since Trump

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Speaker 2: told them to start spending more on defense. So that's

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Speaker 2: a win for my guests. Nine minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vida Retirement, Communities News

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Speaker 1: togs Head.

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Speaker 2: Been away from some very exciting day to day I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you're weare, but the nurses are on

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Speaker 2: strike again for a couple of days to day and Thursday.

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Speaker 2: No one loves industrial election more than I do, and

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Speaker 2: so it's very exciting that we're back on the packet

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Speaker 2: line with fresh science and complaining about our lot. Not

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Speaker 2: that we don't have sympathy for the nurses, of course,

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Speaker 2: because we do. But if you're one of the people

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Speaker 2: who was in a line for a bit of surgery today.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen thousand surgeries and appointments have been adjusted today just

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Speaker 2: the thirteen thousand, so there's not much disruption. Average salary,

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Speaker 2: by the way, for a registered nurses now over one

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five thousand dollars and I have more

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Speaker 2: numbers on that too. So really, should you be striking

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Speaker 2: for more money in a country that has no money

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Speaker 2: when you're already earning one hundred and twenty five thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars five away from seven for the ins and the ouse.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business tiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: I think we've got some good news if you're in

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Speaker 2: a house building. We got the QB Cost Builders August

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Speaker 2: update stats this morning, so that looks at the cost

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Speaker 2: of thousands of material or materials over sixty thousand different

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Speaker 2: labor rates in our main centers. It's found the average

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Speaker 2: cost of constructing a one or two bedroom home between

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty and two hundred and fifty square meters,

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Speaker 2: which is about average about two hundred square meters on average.

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Speaker 2: It went up just zero zero point two percent over

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Speaker 2: the past three months, so she's flattened out nice. That

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Speaker 2: follows a zero point three percent rise for the first

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Speaker 2: half of the year, so we've only got a half

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Speaker 2: point increase for three quarters of the year. So we're

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Speaker 2: flat as a pancake. Considering between twenty and twenty four

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Speaker 2: the cost and build a home went up forty four percent.

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Speaker 2: We didn't like that. When it's something done about it

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Speaker 2: looks like we've done. Construction cost inflation this quarter is subdued,

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Speaker 2: that's their word, not mine. Subdued, with annual growth easing

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Speaker 2: down slightly to one point two percent, competed with one

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Speaker 2: point three last quarter. And all of those numbers are

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Speaker 2: before by the way, any of the governments announced overseas

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Speaker 2: product rules come to places, the old jib board debarkle.

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Speaker 2: Remember you can bring in a whole bunch of stuff

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Speaker 2: now that you never used to be able to, and

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Speaker 2: that allegedly is going to make the house building cheaper

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Speaker 2: and easier. They're not expected to affect the market for

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Speaker 2: a least six more months those new rules, So if

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Speaker 2: we're flat now, it might be entirely possible we start

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Speaker 2: going backwards in terms of cost now. The cost for

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Speaker 2: non residential builds also only went up to zero point

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Speaker 2: two percent with an annual cost increase of one percent,

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Speaker 2: so that's good. Problem is, of course, that it's elevated

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Speaker 2: and the cost per square meat there is still a

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Speaker 2: hell of a lot higher than it used to be,

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Speaker 2: and there is an element of resistance in the marketplace

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Speaker 2: as to whether if you're running in ten thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: a square meter building your an two hundred square meter house,

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Speaker 2: you've got two million dollars worth of house just there,

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Speaker 2: and that's before you buy the land. So it remains

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Speaker 2: a bit of an issue as far as new bills

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Speaker 2: are concerned. The Prime Minister, speaking of new bills, five

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Speaker 2: million dollars, thank you very much, five million dollars plus.

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Speaker 2: We moved at last on the foreign investors home buying business,

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Speaker 2: so crystal luxon in the next half hour and a

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Speaker 2: new idea to save even more money. Let's slash some

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Speaker 2: government ministries. New report on that to deal with, as.

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Speaker 3: Will news, opinion and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with Rainthrover leading by example News

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Speaker 1: togsad B.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven. So we got there at last. The

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Speaker 2: deal has been struck for the Golden v's a hold

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Speaker 2: as they can buy or build a house to the

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Speaker 2: value of five million dollars plus. The idea that we

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Speaker 2: wanted you to invest millions in the country but you

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Speaker 2: could go and rent a AIRBMB was of course absurd.

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Speaker 2: Crystal Reluction's back with us. Good morning, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: How I am very well? So you wouldn't confirm it yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Was this very last minute? Was there angst behind the scenes.

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Speaker 16: No, it's just that we it's been an ongoing series

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Speaker 16: of conversations about how you do it. But you just

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Speaker 16: summed it up in a nutshell, which is, if you're

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Speaker 16: going to come here and invest five to ten million

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Speaker 16: dollars of your own hard earned money, you don't want

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Speaker 16: to be renting a property. If you want to buy one,

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Speaker 16: we're going to let you do that. And Mike, it

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Speaker 16: was a fantastic day, you say, because I met this

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Speaker 16: company called Seaflux right now. They are a young guy

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Speaker 16: started the software company from New Zealand. He's basically got

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Speaker 16: a cloud based system where he integrates all the maintenance,

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Speaker 16: safety compliance stuff that you need for commercial marine vessels

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Speaker 16: ships out there in the ocean. Long story short, this

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Speaker 16: guy raised it with his own money. His mum and

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Speaker 16: dad put money into it, got it up and running.

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Speaker 16: Puna Kaiki Fund came in just invested three million dollars

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Speaker 16: with him. That three million dollars came from those active

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Speaker 16: investor visas. And now what's he going to go off

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Speaker 16: and do. He's going to go hire five new people

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Speaker 16: for new jobs in his business so he can grow

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Speaker 16: the company. Another company there cleanly. They do cleaning products

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Speaker 16: in a quite a cool way. They've actually taken they

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Speaker 16: ahead investment from the same people and they've ended up

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Speaker 16: going off and investing into opening up new selling the

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Speaker 16: product in North America and Kroger and Albertson. So this

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Speaker 16: is exactly what we're talking about, is not dumb speculative

656
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Speaker 16: property investment stuff, but actual productive investment in New Zealand

657
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Speaker 16: that gives capital to New Zealanders but also connections and

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Speaker 16: knowledge and know how that's helpful for them to export.

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Speaker 16: So it was really actually quite excited. I mean, as

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Speaker 16: you've been saying, you know for a long time, Look,

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Speaker 16: it's a no brainer. And I think yes, it took

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Speaker 16: some time with Winston and I you know, both getting

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Speaker 16: to the same place where we could say, yeah, we

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Speaker 16: want to we both want to accelerate productive investment. I

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Speaker 16: think this's just sensible stuff.

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Speaker 2: He seemed angsty yesterday and his reaction. He's with us shortly,

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Speaker 2: but he seemed angsty yesterday. Was he drave kicking and screening?

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Speaker 16: Not at all, honestly, not at all. He might have

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Speaker 16: just he has a peculiar way with the media, as

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Speaker 16: you well aware, so I wouldn't read too much into that. No, No, honestly,

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Speaker 16: it's been it's been very constructive, very productive conversation. He

672
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Speaker 16: genuinely came from a point of view if I just

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Speaker 16: don't want to see property speculation because none of that's

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Speaker 16: adding a lot of value. He's been very pro investment,

675
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Speaker 16: talking about Ireland and Singapore in the same way that

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Speaker 16: I have since. In fact, that was actually Winston and

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Speaker 16: I when we first met. I mean we spent and

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Speaker 16: didn't talk about coalition, we're agreement. We actually just talked

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Speaker 16: about Ireland and Singapore, the opportunity for New Zealand, all

680
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Speaker 16: of that kind of stuff, and that's how he sort

681
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Speaker 16: of connected. So he's been very much into pro productive investment,

682
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Speaker 16: as have I, and so yes, we up the threshold.

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Speaker 16: We got rid of the stamp duty component, which was

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Speaker 16: a complexity frankly we just didn't need but it is

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Speaker 16: to do exactly this to get capital into particularly our

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Speaker 16: small medium, startup exporting kind of companies that actually just

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Speaker 16: need that capital injection to grow. There was a guy

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Speaker 16: there yesterday I met who came in on this active

689
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Speaker 16: investor VISA plus program. Right. He's done four investments, He's

690
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Speaker 16: spent a hell of a lot more than than ten

691
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Speaker 16: million dollars investing in these companies, loves it and is

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Speaker 16: now living more of his time here in New Zealand

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Speaker 16: than he is in New York and California, where his

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Speaker 16: base is in America. So that's exactly what you want.

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Speaker 16: Because once you get here, and as you've been saying,

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Speaker 16: once you can buy a house, well actually that means

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Speaker 16: you get into the ecosystem. You sort of understand how

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Speaker 16: it all works down here. You see other investment opportunities,

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Speaker 16: and it's not just that first five to ten million

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Speaker 16: dollars at you're spending. It's actually what comes after all

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Speaker 16: of that. Once you're a you're wired that way as

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Speaker 16: an investor to look for more opportunities, and you understand it,

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Speaker 16: and you got a comfort level with the place, which

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Speaker 16: is good.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more, just explain to me, give us the

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Speaker 2: background inside scoop. Why then, did such a simple decision

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Speaker 2: take so long?

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Speaker 16: Oh well, I guess we had a lot of things

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Speaker 16: to sort of work through. I mean, we first we

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Speaker 16: had to retool the Active Investor program. We've had to

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Speaker 16: do a bunch of other things around RMA reform fast tracks,

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Speaker 16: which took a lot of our energy initially as we

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Speaker 16: worked our way through all of that, it just took time,

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Speaker 16: you know, And you know, in hindsight, yep, you look

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Speaker 16: and it could have been done much quicker and much faster,

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Speaker 16: fully agree. But at the end of the day, when

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Speaker 16: you had quite different positions, you know, as you know,

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Speaker 16: pre election, and we just needed to get ourselves fully comfortable.

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Speaker 16: Were both of us could stand up and say we're

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Speaker 16: up for this, okay?

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Speaker 2: Were you ever looking to split the cost in other words,

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Speaker 2: five million Auckland, Queenstown, three million, two million, four million

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Speaker 2: whatever elsewhere or not?

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Speaker 17: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: We were, I mean I was. I was interested in saying,

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Speaker 16: could you do five million in Auckland and Queenstown and say,

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Speaker 16: you know, three and a half everywhere else around the country.

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Speaker 16: We couldn't get agreement to do that. But at the

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Speaker 16: end of the day, I think this is fine. I mean,

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Speaker 16: if you think about it, Mike, there's probably only there's

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Speaker 16: only ten thousand houses itself a five million or more

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Speaker 16: in New Zealands, so it's about less than half a percent.

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Speaker 16: There's about almost eighty percent of them here in Auckland.

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Speaker 16: There's another ten percent city in Queenstown. So basically you've

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Speaker 16: got ninety percent of the houses above five million in

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Speaker 16: those two places. The people that end up buying those houses.

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Speaker 16: And I was telling saying yesterday, and you're talking to

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Speaker 16: the different meres of Queenstown over the years, the people

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Speaker 16: that are actually doing all the philanthropy and backing the

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Speaker 16: charities down there are actually these wealthy from overseas folks

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Speaker 16: who are doing exactly that. So yeah, so look it's

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Speaker 16: it's and you know we've had I mean the cool

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Speaker 16: thing is we've had three hundred applicants. She had three

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Speaker 16: hundred and eight. We got another seven over the weekend

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Speaker 16: applying for this Act of for vesta visas. That's almost

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Speaker 16: two billion dollars we didn't have in the economy on

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Speaker 16: April one. That's now here. It's doing the things like

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Speaker 16: I talked about with these companies ce Flux and Cleanalley

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Speaker 16: and others, and you know, it's pretty cool. And probably

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Speaker 16: almost half of them are coming out of the US.

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Speaker 16: Obviously a number out of China Hong Kong, but Germany's

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Speaker 16: another big place as well. So they're coming from all

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Speaker 16: over the world, which is exactly what we need.

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Speaker 2: Yes we do. You're off to Amazon as a headline

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Speaker 2: out of that today.

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Speaker 16: This is an incredible story, right, Amazon, one of the

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Speaker 16: biggest companies in the world, probably with over a trillion dollars,

758
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Speaker 16: which is you know, three and a half times size

759
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Speaker 16: of New Zealand. Yeah, that AAWS, which is their web services.

760
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Speaker 16: They do all the cloud storages, data centers and all that stuff.

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Speaker 16: They're investing seven and a half billion dollars in New Zealand.

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Speaker 16: That will have an impact on our GDP for sure.

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Speaker 16: Crewed up to about one thousand jobs and it's about

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Speaker 16: about an almost an eleven billion dollar boost to our GDP.

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Speaker 16: And what it is, it's just us to us to

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Speaker 16: be able to have a good, big global company like

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Speaker 16: AWS put a vote of confidence into New Zealand in

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Speaker 16: that way. That's probably the largest ever certainly publicly announced

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Speaker 16: technology investment I would have mentioned in New Zealand by

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Speaker 16: an the national tech firm.

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Speaker 2: So have you told them we haven't got the power

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Speaker 2: to run it?

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Speaker 5: Don't you worry?

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Speaker 16: That's the next problem, Mike. You give me a problem

775
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Speaker 16: every time we meet.

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Speaker 2: It just trying to salt the country one day.

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Speaker 16: To help, he says, just well that's what I'm trying

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Speaker 16: to do.

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Speaker 5: So good.

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Speaker 2: Seven and a half billion on a thousand jobs. You

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Speaker 2: can't argue with that.

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Speaker 18: That's great?

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Speaker 2: Is it just a good sign though that you know?

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Speaker 16: You know the other day I was telling you, like

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Speaker 16: this company, Halter, you one of our great tech companies

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Speaker 16: actually used as Amazon Web Services for all the clouds solutions.

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Speaker 16: You know. They raised one hundred and sixty five million dollars,

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Speaker 16: have one hundred and seven vacant jobs right there today

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Speaker 16: here in Auckland. So yeah, it's coming, rights, it's moving.

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Speaker 16: So we just got to follow it through and stick

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Speaker 16: with a clean.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time as always, Christopher Lux and Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: Winston Peter's back on the Housing After seven thirty fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: Come back to your feedback in a moment seventeen past

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Speaker 2: seven other crack at the size of government New Zealand

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Speaker 2: initiative calling for an overhaul of our systems. We've got

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Speaker 2: They argue one of the most complex cabinets in the

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Speaker 2: developed world, three times as many portfolios as similar countries.

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Speaker 2: We need a cabinet with about fifteen to twenty policy

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Speaker 2: areas and departments being cut from forty three to twenty.

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Speaker 2: Roger Partridge is the co author of the Reporters Back

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Speaker 2: with It's Roger Morning, Good morning, Mike. We've been here before,

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Speaker 2: haven't we. I mean, there's too much self interest in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand politics to whoever make this happen or us.

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Speaker 12: I don't think it's so much. I didn't think it's

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Speaker 12: so much self interest. It's it's just a developed in

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Speaker 12: a haphazard way and it's time to step back and

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Speaker 12: have a look at it. We've got eighty one ministerial

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Speaker 12: portfolios split across twenty eight ministers and forty three government departments.

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Speaker 12: Other countries have about twenty of each, and so when

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Speaker 12: you look at the organizational structure of executive government, that

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Speaker 12: looks more like a maze than an org chart or

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Speaker 12: as we call it spaghetti.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it does. Brian Roche is sort of doing some

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Speaker 2: of the working. You're hopeful in that.

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Speaker 12: I am hopeful and it's good as we've been working

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Speaker 12: on this over the last two years. We produced a

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Speaker 12: report in twenty twenty four Cabinet Congestion the Growth of

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Speaker 12: a Ministerial Maze, and then we started consulting on this

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Speaker 12: report earlier in the year, and hand in hand with that,

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Speaker 12: Brian and Minister of Public Services Judith Collins have been

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Speaker 12: looking at how they could consolidate some of our fragmented

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Speaker 12: government departments. But it's more than that, it's ministerial positions.

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Speaker 12: What we've done is we've just kept slicing pieces off

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Speaker 12: portfolios and then giving them a new name. As a resultant,

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Speaker 12: important policy areas like housing split across multiple ministers. Housing

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Speaker 12: reports to up to twelve ministers. If you think about

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Speaker 12: the most important ones, the Minister for Housing, the Minister

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Speaker 12: for Building and Construction, the Minister for Local Government, Infrastructure, Transport, Environment,

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Speaker 12: and when you slice key portfolio areas and splinter them

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Speaker 12: across multiple ministers, you then get fragmented decision making, a

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Speaker 12: lack of accountability and higher costs. One of the former

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Speaker 12: prime ministers we consulted with said if a proposal needs

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Speaker 12: a sign off from six different ministers, that's six opportunities

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Speaker 12: for other ministers or their officials to kill it. And

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Speaker 12: we've got to do something about that.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's hope we do. Roger, appreciate your work. Roger

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Speaker 2: Partridge are with the New Zealand initiative. Of course, Mike,

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Speaker 2: I've got a family member a lot of this this morning.

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Speaker 2: I've rightd yup. I've got a family member who's a nurse.

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Speaker 2: Can I ask you to check why they're striking? I

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Speaker 2: don't think it's salary related. In part it is, but

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Speaker 2: in part, as always, it's stuff. But I will come

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Speaker 2: back to that and crunch some more numbers for you.

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Speaker 2: you got the one to punch one net plus Grizzly

867
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: AI your partners in productivity Rhodo seven twenty four. We've

868
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: all seen it. I mean I've seen it a good

869
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: number of times myself personally. The cafe. We all know

870
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: the story of the cafe that was exemplary right. Sold,

871
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: new owner changes the menu, brings in a few kids

872
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: to serve, and wonders why six months later they're out

873
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 2: of business. As the HOSPO people yet again told their

874
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: tale of woe. Do not get me wrong. I mean

875
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: times have been tight, yes, and many an outlet has struggled.

876
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: We know that. But as the new numbers got rolled

877
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,959
Speaker 2: out for the obligatory headline that you might have seen,

878
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: it's probably time, I think, to get a little bit

879
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 2: honest about a sector that at times is its own

880
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: worst enemy. So the numbers. In the past twelve months,

881
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: two thy five hundred and sixty four HOSPO outlets have closed.

882
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: That's an increase of nineteen percent as a stat looks miserable,

883
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: but ask yourself this, are all the cafes gone? No,

884
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 2: so as it possible, we were over cafd as part

885
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: of the problem with HOSPO the fact anyone can join.

886
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: You simply write a check, put on an apron, and

887
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: you're in the hospow game. Do you know what you're doing?

888
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 2: Does anyone ask these questions? Do you know what you're doing?

889
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: Are you interested in excelling or are you looking for

890
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: an easy job and an easy job for your family?

891
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: Are you providing something new or better or different? Or

892
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: just adding to the collection of people who peddle paninis

893
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: and bowls of cappuccino. We talk a lot about the

894
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: two step or two stage economy. Normally it's rural versus urban,

895
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: Auckland versus queenstowne. But there's another two step economy, the

896
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 2: people who are good and the people who aren't. Now

897
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: this doesn't just apply to HOSPO, of course, but HOSPO

898
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: is the standout example because it's one of those sectors

899
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: where one anyone can join, and two you can be

900
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: anything from exceptional too useless, and a lot of things

901
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: in between. See in nineteen ninety is think about this

902
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: the other day. In nineteen ninety Poul Keating, then Australian Treasurer,

903
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: famously said, this is the recession we had to have.

904
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: So Australia had not known a recession. That always been

905
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: the so called lucky country. But part of the argument

906
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: was a recession cleans out the hopeless. It tidy is

907
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 2: an economy up. The strong survive because they hustle, they

908
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: adjust the week whither and they die and out of

909
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: that renewal starts something afresh. A lot of people liquidating

910
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: only tells you a fraction of the story, and the

911
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: story is supposed to make you feel bad. Of course

912
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: it shouldn't, because it's life. If you are good and

913
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: determined and work hard in hospo or anywhere else, you'll

914
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: be fine. If you're really determined, you'll be more than fine.

915
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 3: Pasking, Mike.

916
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: Word on the ground as the building data centers near

917
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: the power stations. Power stations will get an upgrade as well, well,

918
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: they'll need to. I mean, that's an announcement. If you

919
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: ever missed that, seven and a half billion dollars to

920
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: day coming from Amazon, one thousand jobs. That's a good

921
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: news day all around. Why don't we hear good news

922
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: investment stories like that in our mainstream media. Well, I'll

923
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 2: get around to it. That was a bit of an

924
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: exclusive as far as I can work out, Mike, it

925
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: didn't happen overnight, but it did happen. Feeling very good

926
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: about what's happening in New Zealand, so you should be

927
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,959
Speaker 2: about time this visa investment might look at Rick Cane

928
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: north of Auckland invested over one hundred million employees, over

929
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: three hundred people, plus another five hundred indirectly due to

930
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: the development. It's amazing. Then we come back to the nurses. Mike,

931
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: please get your fact straight when talking about nurses. Nurses

932
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: do not earn one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars.

933
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: I didn't say they did. I said some do, Mike.

934
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: The nurses wages you quoted not correct for the average

935
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: nurse on the floor. A nurse doing all the horrible chefts,

936
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: light nights and weekends and afternoons. Well horrible are they?

937
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. The last you look to health, it's

938
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 2: a twenty four to seven game, the same way that

939
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 2: getting up at two thirty in the morning in radios

940
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: a twenty four to seven game. Some of us do

941
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: old hours, some of us don't. If you don't want

942
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: to do the odd hours, you don't get the money. Mike,

943
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: who's supplying the figures for the nurse's income? Is that

944
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: a sixty hour week? No, it isn't. But I will

945
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: run you through the numbers I have after seven thirty.

946
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 2: But we do need to deal with Winston Peters. I

947
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: thought that was interesting from Luxon that they wanted to

948
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 2: split the numbers nationally around the country. Peters wasn't having it.

949
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: So what was his problem with that and how did

950
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 2: he get there? In the end, we'll talk with him,

951
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: and then Ben Bailey Food Hero back with us after

952
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: eight in the studio.

953
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: Zarnie's in New Zealand's home for trusted news and views.

954
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: The mic asking.

955
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate covering all your real estate

956
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,479
Speaker 1: needs news togs had been.

957
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: Ben Bailey back with us after ah beens to half

958
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: a dozen restaurants these days, the new zum And food story.

959
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 2: If you've watched that on television anyway, He's got news

960
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: for us this morning. So been Baby back with us

961
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: after right back can Now it's twenty three to eight.

962
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 2: The business of Foreign buyers. Government finally got across the

963
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: line on the deal. Of course you Golden Visa brigade

964
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: get to buy or build something worth more than five

965
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: million dollars. Winston Peter's New Zealand first lead that is

966
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: with us, good morning, good morning. Does it feel good

967
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: now you've done it?

968
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 19: Well? Look you recall twenty eighteen, we were reacting to

969
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 19: a total shambles in the Zeeland housing market. Also learning

970
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 19: from the Canadian experience where on the West Coast and

971
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 19: Vancouver in particular, there was a massive escalation and prices

972
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 19: because of allowing foreign buying and absentee buying at that

973
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 19: absenty ownership at that and we decided to put a

974
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 19: bracket ban on things. But the reality is they were

975
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 19: investors who were saying, look, we've put money in the

976
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 19: country as we could also come and live here when

977
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 19: we feel like it down again. And so we had

978
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 19: a good hard look and said, well, it was going

979
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 19: to be not national parties two million, because that'll been

980
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 19: interfering with the market where qwis are seriously involved. But

981
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 19: it was the very top end of the market, and

982
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 19: you've got five million invested. Then if you were buying

983
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 19: a new house or an existing house, then we'd made

984
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 19: that an exception. So ninety nine percent of the market

985
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 19: would be denied to them. They'll be accessing less than

986
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 19: one percent of.

987
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: It, exactly. It seemed to me observation, Correct me if

988
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: I'm wrong that yesterday you were a bit angsty about it,

989
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: angry about it, upset about it, whatever the case may be.

990
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: Did you have to get dragged kicking and screaming to

991
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: this particular conclusion.

992
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 19: Now, what my answer was about those who so sat

993
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 19: in the mainstream media they can't get their head around

994
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 19: it that this is not a change to the foreign

995
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 19: buyers man, It's a change through the investment rules to

996
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 19: attract people to come to this country for money that

997
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 19: we desperately need. And it's the different emphasis if you

998
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 19: had listened to seven point thirty who want to report.

999
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 19: The first thing they set out in my interview was

1000
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 19: that it was about living the foreign buyers ban. Now

1001
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 19: this is the breathtaking stuff. I just finished the interview,

1002
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 19: pointed out that they were accessing lesson one percent of

1003
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 19: the market and nine percent of the market was available

1004
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 19: to his illness, and they still said that, So Hi

1005
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 19: anxiety was around misrepresentation.

1006
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 2: Well that's what you get for dealing with lowreentis Winston.

1007
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: I mean, what can I say?

1008
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 19: Oh, well, that's the thing. I was in part of

1009
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 19: the mainstream media, and you were.

1010
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: Well, as far as the split, we had luxon on

1011
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: before he was keen to split. So in other words,

1012
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: five million four Queenstown and Auckland, something else around the

1013
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: rest of the country. You didn't seem to like that.

1014
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 2: What was your issue with that?

1015
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 19: Because when you did the calculations, it was so marginal.

1016
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 19: We did those calculations around the rest of the country,

1017
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 19: say adjusted pro rata on values across the rest of

1018
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 19: the country, there wasn't a great deal of difference. There

1019
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 19: are a lot of places up north of are worth

1020
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 19: more than five million. There are a lot of places

1021
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 19: even in a town, are worth more than five million.

1022
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 19: And so it didn't work, and we said, no, stick

1023
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 19: to the blanket five million. If they're investing and they

1024
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 19: want to buy a five million dollar house, this will

1025
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 19: not be a serious winners charge against them.

1026
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: No, exactly. Obviously this you must have. You mean, no

1027
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 2: one's traveled around the world more than you have in

1028
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, and your role as Foreign minister,

1029
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 2: it must have struck you as the obvious thing to

1030
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: do that you can't be in the world saying come

1031
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: to New Zealand, look at New Zealand. We're open in

1032
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: New Zealand, help us out and at the same time

1033
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: make them rent. I mean that must have struck you

1034
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 2: as being absurd.

1035
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 19: Well, what concerned me was that we were having an

1036
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 19: investment in New Zealand thrust without answering the question why

1037
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 19: New Zealand, and this was one of the answers to

1038
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 19: why New Zealand for wealthy foreign investors. Yes, this struck

1039
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 19: me as unusual. But also I was in Canada not

1040
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 19: so many years ago when I learned about firsthand the

1041
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 19: appalling offshore bidding that was going on driving the west

1042
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 19: coast of Vancouver market mad at the very expensive costs

1043
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 19: to their local people, and we decided we needed to

1044
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 19: avoid that.

1045
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: What do you make of Hipkin's reaction yesterday? He would

1046
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: still ban everybody? I mean, does that must worry you

1047
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: as a as a country that's looking to get people

1048
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 2: here to grow stuff. Then suddenly we're going to go

1049
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 2: back to nineteen eighty three if he gets back into power.

1050
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 19: Oh the thing is about mister Hopkins, with the greatest respect,

1051
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 19: what does he know about anything to do with business.

1052
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 19: He's never been out of a university labor party hierarchy background,

1053
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 19: has never had a real job. Wouldn't I how to

1054
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 19: run the school tuch shop? So I'm not surprised at

1055
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 19: this sort of massive reaction from him when all we're

1056
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 19: doing is saying for serious foreign investors who could bring

1057
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 19: better into this country, then there is one benefit that

1058
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 19: we need to add to our incentivized to invest in

1059
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 19: New Zealand plan.

1060
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, can't argue with him, all right, Appreciate it very much.

1061
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 2: Winston Peter's New Zealand first leader got there at last

1062
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: eighteen minutes away from eight tasking democracies alive. And while

1063
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: in tel I m kechem maccaro, I can tell you

1064
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: with the by election, forty four thousand people enrolled in

1065
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: what really is a really interesting race. I mean, normally

1066
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: by elections are a bit ho hum, but this is

1067
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: interesting given the background. Henery got robbed. I mean, I

1068
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: don't literally mean robbed. A serious broad office will work

1069
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 2: that out in the full course of time. But it

1070
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 2: was what forty two votes. It was a tight race

1071
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of question marks around it, and

1072
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: so we're back into it. So forty four thousand people

1073
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 2: enrolled as of the weekend. How many people do you

1074
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 2: reckon voted have voted? Of your forty four thousand, two,

1075
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: seven hundred and eighty nine so next to no one's interested.

1076
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: Biggest day Saturday. Of course, everyone's available to vote on Saturday,

1077
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: so a full seven hundred and fifty one people turned up.

1078
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 2: If you want to compare it to the last by

1079
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Speaker 2: election that was Port Wykatto a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 2: fifty two thousand were enrolled and in the seven days

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Speaker 2: of voting that that had instead of the twenty seven

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty nine that they've got in Toamackie mccaro.

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Speaker 2: They had eighty one hundred and sixty five. So even

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Speaker 2: at the best of times, is not that much interest.

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Speaker 2: But in this particular race, it's embarrassing.

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Speaker 7: Maybe it was affected by the wind.

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Speaker 2: Oh I forgotten, No, I'll hold on. What was wendy day? Sunday,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Saturday seven p. Fifty one they got in

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Speaker 2: because they knew the wind was coming. Because everybody knows

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Speaker 2: you can't vote when it's windy day.

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Speaker 7: You don't want your votes blowing away, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Red Warning seventeen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be funny thing about Winston a moment ago and

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Speaker 2: you know, doing deals with the coalition. The twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: three edition of a long running New Zealand election study

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Speaker 2: had some numbers crunched, and they've run at every election

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Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety. A majority of national voters wanted the

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Speaker 2: Act Party in coalition, not New Zealand First. Act Party

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Speaker 2: voters weren't particularly ent thirst about New Zealand First. Just

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Speaker 2: seventeen percent wanted New Zealand First in the coalition. New

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Speaker 2: Zealand first voters thirty six percent were happy with National,

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Speaker 2: twenty eight percent with ACT. They could have gone with

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Speaker 2: labor either way, three percent we're happy with labor. Overall,

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Speaker 2: the majority of US fifty one percent, so barely a

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Speaker 2: majority preferred a coalition under MMP A third thirty three

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Speaker 2: percent one of majority government, which is interesting given what

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Speaker 2: we've just gone through. Twenty through twenty three. National parties

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Speaker 2: support US fifty six percent like a single party government,

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Speaker 2: thirty six percent in favor of multiple parties, So we're

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Speaker 2: still sort of seemingly coming to grips with the MMP.

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Speaker 2: Mike tell me you're going to play the audio of

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Speaker 2: her interview Q and A. No, I'm not. But if

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Speaker 2: you saw this is a Reny, the one of the

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Speaker 2: candidates or the candidate for the New Zealand Maori Party

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Speaker 2: or the Maory Party or Tabati Mahriy or whatever the

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Speaker 2: hell they call themselves. Anyway, if you saw her interview

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Speaker 2: with Jack on Q and A probably probably tells you

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Speaker 2: why I know and votes so far.

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Speaker 7: We had the information on your phone.

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Speaker 2: She just did never phone and never phone. I don't

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Speaker 2: think she had the information on the phone. I don't think.

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Speaker 7: She she was hoping she could look it up quickly.

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Speaker 2: All the information I think what she was looking for

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Speaker 2: was Google. By the way, if you haven't seen it,

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Speaker 2: don't bother. Honestly, it's so depressing. Kiora News team.

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Speaker 7: This is.

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Speaker 2: This is from the Cornwall Park communications team. Now first

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Speaker 2: Cornwall Parks in Auckland. If you're listening around the rest

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Speaker 2: of the country, you want to laugh at Auckland for

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Speaker 2: a moment. This to do with the wind on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: The most obviously concerning part about this is a park

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Speaker 2: has a communications team, so and you wonder whether there

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Speaker 2: are too many bureaucrats.

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Speaker 7: How do you normally communicate with a park beings closes.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying you just talked to the park and the

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Speaker 2: park talks back to you. Could you please correct host

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Speaker 2: Mike Hoskins commentary regarding the closure of Cornwall Park. It

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Speaker 2: was not closed on Saturday. Now the important point about that,

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Speaker 2: not only does a park have a communications team, I

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00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 2: never said it was closed on Saturday. So first fact

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Speaker 2: completely wrong. We issued the media advisory on Saturday, which

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Speaker 2: is exactly what I said. I said, you said you

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Speaker 2: were going to close the Park day before the wind

1148
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Speaker 2: actually came. That's what I said on the program yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Cornwall Park was closed from one pm Sunday afternoon. Reopened

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Speaker 2: this morning at the usual time. As noted, the health

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Speaker 2: and safety of the public and our staff is our priority. Clearly,

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Speaker 2: it was concerning to hear your host being cavalier about

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Speaker 2: health and safety. Sorry, license license Cerria.

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Speaker 7: That's what they say, they say, Hosking. He might be haggard,

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Speaker 7: but at least he's cavalier.

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Speaker 2: So cavalier thirteen thousand surgeries strike day for the nurses

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Speaker 2: today and Thursday. Average salary for a registered nurses now

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Speaker 2: over one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars, including overtime

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Speaker 2: and allowances. Since twenty eleven, Union nurses have seen their

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Speaker 2: pay rise nearly seventy four percent, which is more than

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Speaker 2: double the wage growth of the thirty five percent across

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Speaker 2: the wider economy. Nurses also receive extra pay for nights, weekends,

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Speaker 2: on call work, additional lea for long shifts, long service sickness,

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Speaker 2: professional development payments about to six thousand dollars a year

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Speaker 2: and five weeks annually after five years. Current offer would

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Speaker 2: see a new graduate nurse on seventy five thousand, seven

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy three dollars receive a total pay increase

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Speaker 2: of eight thousand, three hundred and thirty seven by the

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Speaker 2: end of June of twenty twenty six. Those are the facts,

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Speaker 2: Those are the stats. Get angry at me and text

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Speaker 2: me now ten to eight.

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Speaker 1: The mic hosting breakfast with rainthrow Ber News togs Head been.

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Speaker 2: But no I promoke. The rebuild of our tourism sector continues,

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Speaker 2: with the latest initiative being the North Island's biggest tourism operators.

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Speaker 2: They're working across the ditch this morning as we speak.

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Speaker 2: The Keiwi North Partnership. It's launched earlier this year. We

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Speaker 2: told you about it at the time. It's running a

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Speaker 2: week long road show Sydney and Melbourne. Any dundas is

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Speaker 2: with Auckland unlimited and as with us any morning, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Are you up early in Sydney or Melbourne?

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Speaker 18: I'm deafly in Auckland, but Wisher was there?

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Speaker 2: I bet you do. The delineation between the North and

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Speaker 2: the South as opposed to North being just one part

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Speaker 2: of the country. Can they get their head around that?

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Speaker 18: Well, this is all part of the exercise, right, this

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Speaker 18: is educating Australians that the North Island has absolutely so

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Speaker 18: much to offer as to the South.

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Speaker 2: So it'd be sort of like Australia selling your Queensland.

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Speaker 17: It would exactly, Mike, Okay.

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Speaker 2: So the front of mind aspect, how does it actually work?

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Speaker 2: How do you end up there? You tell who what

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00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: and they tell your average Australian how do what go

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Speaker 2: to Rhoda Rua.

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Speaker 18: Well, the average Australian holiday is either four to seven

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Speaker 18: days or eight to fourteen days, so that's like a

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Speaker 18: perfect time to come and explore the North Island. So

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Speaker 18: Aukland's the main gateway. What we're encouraging is that people arrive,

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Speaker 18: they're obviously heading up north, they're heading further south, whether

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Speaker 18: it's around Rua, down to the Waikato, out to New Plymouth,

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Speaker 18: Hawks Bay, wherever it may be. So we've got fifteen

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Speaker 18: regions up in Sydney and Melbourne talking about the reasons

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Speaker 18: to come to those destinations as part of a North.

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Speaker 2: Island So they're more regions than companies. Right, So Auckland

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Speaker 2: Unlimited Destination, how Recki, Hawks Bay Etctera.

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Speaker 18: We've got fifteen regions and total seventy operators. So from Auckland,

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Speaker 18: we've got follows, We've got the big foody, We've got

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Speaker 18: a Nando Tillers from Wahiki. So we've got a broad

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Speaker 18: range of operators from Auckland and every region some along

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Speaker 18: as well.

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Speaker 2: And when you do this sort of thing, do you

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Speaker 2: get good buy and from the industry of people can

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Speaker 2: to fire this thing up?

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Speaker 18: Oh, we have a weight list. It's extraordinary and I

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Speaker 18: mean we charge people to come. It's you know, all

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Speaker 18: costs off set and a long weightless and this is

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Speaker 18: the first event, so we're really hoping that this is

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Speaker 18: kind of the first of many.

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Speaker 2: Do you have KPIs I mean by you spend this,

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00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 2: you do that you would expect what an increase of

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Speaker 2: one per ten thousand people? What are you looking for?

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Speaker 18: We're looking for a shift in market share. So the

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Speaker 18: South Island's obviously jot a great lift out of Australia.

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Speaker 18: We want to see a lift out, you know, one

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Speaker 18: to two percent out of the North Island out of

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Speaker 18: this work. So they'll be those operators will be charging.

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Speaker 18: I think we've talked about three hundred travel sellers as

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Speaker 18: well as journalists, so it's trying to get in the

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Speaker 18: minds of media that the North Island is a great

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Speaker 18: proposition for you know, a New Zealand holiday.

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Speaker 2: I hope it works. A treat for you. Any any

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Speaker 2: dundas of Auckland unlimited with us this morning four minutes

1232
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Speaker 2: away from mate past like when it is quite funny.

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Speaker 2: You're lucky to have them as a single My sister

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Speaker 2: would love him. Send us a photo of your sister.

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Speaker 2: I'm kidding.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I need a full personality profile, not just a photo.

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Speaker 2: But Cavalier, wasn't it morning, Mike. What are your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on Regional airlines getting a thirty million dollar boost? Previously

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Speaker 2: said it wouldn't happen. Well it hasn't. It's important we

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Speaker 2: get the facts right here. They haven't got a boost,

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Speaker 2: They've got a loan facility. So the James Meaga was

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Speaker 2: on the program yesterday and it's just I'm not convinced

1243
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Speaker 2: it's going to work. I hope it does, obviously, But

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Speaker 2: a loan is not a grant, is not a gift,

1245
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: is not a boost. It's the It just gets your liquid.

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Speaker 2: If you can see some light at the end of

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Speaker 2: the tunnel. But from all I'm seeing from regional airlines.

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Speaker 2: They got numbers problems, they got demand problems, they got

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Speaker 2: cost problems. I got all sorts of things that are

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Speaker 2: coming at them that aren't suddenly going to go away. Therefore,

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Speaker 2: unless you can service the loan, I'm not sure what

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Speaker 2: the point is, but hopefully I'm going to be proven

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Speaker 2: to be wrong. Food here I Ben Bailey back in

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Speaker 2: the studio after eight after the News, which is next

1255
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Speaker 2: here at news Talk said.

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Speaker 1: Be setting the agenda and talking the big issues, the

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Veda, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way,

1258
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Speaker 1: News Talks, Dead be.

1259
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Speaker 2: If a seven past day. Time for a catch up

1260
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Speaker 2: with one of the country's best hospital operators and all

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Speaker 2: around food hero. Ben Bailey owned six restaurants these days.

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Speaker 2: A seventh is a great story and we'll come to that.

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Speaker 2: Also as television show, if you've been watching it in

1264
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Speaker 2: New Zealand, Food Stories just wrapped its fourth season. So

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Speaker 2: but to cover and Ben bodies back.

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Speaker 6: That's good to see you, same here, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: The food story was the Stone Fruit and Central Otago.

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Speaker 2: We like that, isn't it amazing?

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Speaker 5: It's just it's well class, you know, did you see

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Speaker 5: the Forest Lodge orchard. The legendary is a very first

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Speaker 5: electric farm in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: That's Mike.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Mike's He's amazing, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Mike hates me. Mike, Mike loves me and he hates

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Speaker 2: me well, because we've got this electricity.

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Speaker 3: Thing going on.

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Speaker 2: I'm a sort of a I'm not as enamored with

1278
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 2: EVS as he is, and he wants to turn the

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Speaker 2: whole world electric and so he writes to me on

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Speaker 2: a regular basis. But when it comes to cherries, nobody

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Speaker 2: does it better than he does.

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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Speaker 5: And you know the cool thing about this is that

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Speaker 5: I've never seen a cherry tree and that actually give

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01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 5: birth cherries. It was my first time plucking a cherry

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Speaker 5: off the tree and that sounds weird because New Zealand

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Speaker 5: grows the best cherries in the world. And when you

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Speaker 5: see the cherries you can purchase from Forest Lodge Orchard

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Speaker 5: or electric cherries. They want a big balanced farm environment

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Speaker 5: awards as well. They won every Bloody award. You actually

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Speaker 5: get export cherries in your home, so if you buy

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Speaker 5: cherries from a supermarket, they're the tiny, little kind of

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Speaker 5: B grade ones. And so ordering from him, that was

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Speaker 5: really my first experience as a New Zealander in New

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Speaker 5: Zealand eating an export cherry and now this big or

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Speaker 5: you can't really see, but they're like thirty two to

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Speaker 5: thirty six centimeters millimeters.

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Speaker 2: The interesting thing about you so high peak station was

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Speaker 2: one of my favorites as well, because I can't work

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Speaker 2: out whether it's just the highest station where I'm from,

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Speaker 2: candorbur anyway, I find looking at those sort of places

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Speaker 2: actually quite emotional. Well yes, and do you absolutely, because

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Speaker 2: there's something it's so big what they do at a

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Speaker 2: place like that is it's a significant business, isn't It's

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Speaker 2: not just some sheep running away, you know, hundreds of

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Speaker 2: hectares away.

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Speaker 6: It's a story about farmers diversifying.

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Speaker 5: And if you look at that family, who are just

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Speaker 5: wonderful human beings, to be honest, how do you Especially

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Speaker 5: when farms pass on through the generations, they often get

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Speaker 5: divided up or sold, and so the father who sadly

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Speaker 5: passed away one of the whole family to live there

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Speaker 5: together and to work it out. So you've got one

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Speaker 5: person running the farming element. Then you've got the tourism element,

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Speaker 5: and then you've got the honey element. So so much

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Speaker 5: land ten thousand acres, you know, and right at the

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Speaker 5: foothills of Mount Hart and so I mean you're just

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Speaker 5: as a New Zelander getting access to that high country

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Speaker 5: is phenomenal and in fact, it's sort of like if

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Speaker 5: I wasn't a chef, that's what I'd like to do.

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Speaker 6: So for me, that's emotional.

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Speaker 2: Do you has this worked for you? What was your

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Speaker 2: purpose of because I think I'm correct in saying tell

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Speaker 2: me if I'm telling tales here, But this was self funded,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it. This was sort of a gift from you

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Speaker 2: to the country.

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Speaker 5: To Yeah, we're fully self funded and we do have

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Speaker 5: sponsors like Balanced Farm Environment Awards. Without those guys, we

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Speaker 5: wouldn't be able to make the show, so we don't

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Speaker 5: get any money from New Zealand on air or anything

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Speaker 5: like that. For me, it's a couple of things like

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Speaker 5: as a chef, it's my responsibility to get out there

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Speaker 5: and make sure I know what the farmers having for breakfast,

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Speaker 5: let alone how they've grown the animals. And you've got

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Speaker 5: to find out like what's good out there this You know,

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01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 5: you go to the supermarket and you you kind of

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01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 5: don't know the story of food and when you go

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Speaker 5: on the farm where you go out on a boat

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Speaker 5: and you hear the stories and you hear how hard

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Speaker 5: it is, you have a new respect. That is the

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Speaker 5: beginning of the creative process for coming up with a dish.

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Speaker 5: Like there's just this natural process that goes on in

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Speaker 5: my brain, Like you know, I want to create a

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Speaker 5: from these ingredients and I want to buy direct from

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Speaker 5: these people.

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Speaker 6: So there's that process.

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Speaker 5: And then there's a whole New Zealand ink story where

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Speaker 5: if we tell our food story better, we can sell

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Speaker 5: our products for more, especially when.

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Speaker 6: It comes to export.

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Speaker 5: So I think we're hiding the story too much in

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Speaker 5: New Zealand and we want to uncover and see the

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Speaker 5: soldier of the earth.

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Speaker 6: Kiwis who are doing just.

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Speaker 2: Doing phenomenal autastic stories?

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Speaker 15: Do you?

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01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 2: Are you running yourself too thin at the moment? Six restaurants?

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Speaker 2: And when I happened to be an Ah couple of

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Speaker 2: months ago, you were there and you look like you

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Speaker 2: were doing something. That's like you weren't wandering around aimlessly.

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Speaker 2: So how do you how do you do that? Plus

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Speaker 2: your television plus the seventh restaurant?

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Speaker 5: It's like for me, I feel like I've just started

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Speaker 5: out in my career and I just feel like I'm

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01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 5: a commie chef just started out from culinary school or so.

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Speaker 5: I have the sense of enthusiasm that that I that

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Speaker 5: I can't can't extinguish. I get a lot of I

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01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 5: get a lot of pride and value out of seeing

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Speaker 5: other people sort of rise up, employees or staff members

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Speaker 5: rise up through the ranks. And I'm constantly replacing myself

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Speaker 5: and giving a pathway to those staff members to be

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Speaker 5: able to level up. I mean, I'm just a stepping

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Speaker 5: stone for everyone that works out these restaurants. So my

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Speaker 5: job is to make sure that they're going.

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Speaker 2: To do so quick health check on the hospital industry,

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01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: which has so many headlines if you want to in

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Speaker 2: this current environment in New Zealanding, can you do well

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Speaker 2: if you want to?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely?

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Speaker 5: I mean you've got to love what you do, right,

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Speaker 5: And I don't have a job by Hospitality is a

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01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 5: lifestyle business. I work on the weekends. I answer emails

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Speaker 5: and take calls. Someone will text me, I'll make a

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Speaker 5: booking and I love that stuff. You know, it's really

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Speaker 5: it's a noble thing to serve someone. Someone walks in

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Speaker 5: the restaurant, you look at them and you go, I

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01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 5: wonder what you need. And there's nothing better than putting

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Speaker 5: a smile on someone's face, you know, when people leave,

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Speaker 5: like say, Ahi, we will do one hundred covers a night.

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Speaker 5: I get one hundred. Thank you, Like what other job

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Speaker 5: do you walk out at the end of the day

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Speaker 5: and every single customer said, Wow, that was amazing.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: That's so true and it's really cool.

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Speaker 6: Industry A it's hard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, every job's hard, but that for me is

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Speaker 5: it really fills my carp And so you talk about

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Speaker 5: big spread and people go, oh, you can't be every

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Speaker 5: at once.

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't need to be real ever at once.

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Speaker 6: I want to do it like this.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I could stay at one restaurant and just

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Speaker 5: cook every day, but I love the sense of adventure

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01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 5: and that's there's nothing better than cruising around and pretend

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01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 5: you're working.

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Speaker 2: And that's the truth. I've made a living out of it.

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Speaker 2: More in a Moment, Ben Bailey will talk about the

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Speaker 2: seventh Restaurant In a Moment thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: Eight, The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: powered by News TALKSIP.

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Speaker 2: News Talks seventeen past eight have Ben Bailey's with us

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Speaker 2: Food Hero among other things. Is there another series in

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand story do we know?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we started already there you go. Yes, so we're

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Speaker 5: going to go. We're doing a pop up up in China.

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Speaker 5: So I sort of want to see in Shanghai for

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Speaker 5: the CIOE, the big International Import Expo in Shanghai November,

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01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 5: and you know, it's just sort of seeing where our

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Speaker 5: food goes past New Zealand. I find that fascinating as well,

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Speaker 5: and seeing who's exporting, what they're doing, how the story

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Speaker 5: has been told to the world. So that's going to

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Speaker 5: be fun. We're doing a week in Shanghai at w

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Speaker 5: Hotel fourth to the eighth of November. So that's pretty cool,

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Speaker 5: brilliant stuff. Right.

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Speaker 2: The seventh restaurant is at the What I would know

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Speaker 2: is the Rotunda. Yes in Wellington, Yes, Oriental Parade, Yes,

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Speaker 2: prime real estate, waterfront on the waterfront. Yeah, it's called

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Speaker 2: the Pavilion. It has been empty for twelve years. That's

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Speaker 2: a disgrace in itself, isn't it?

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Speaker 6: One hundred percent?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so how's this come together?

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Twelve years empty of waterfront building like that, it's kind

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Speaker 5: of a symbol of Wellington. I mean, I love Wellington

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Speaker 5: for a start. I've always loved going down there, had

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Speaker 5: family down there, and so when the opportunity came up,

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Speaker 5: I just flew down and checked out the building and

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01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 5: just fell in love with it and met the developer,

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01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 5: David Loveveradge from Watson Group, and then rod Der's one

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Speaker 5: of the investors who as zero as in zero yes.

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Speaker 5: So these guys are essentially doing a service to the community.

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Speaker 5: They're spending the money, their own money, to fix this building,

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01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 5: to get it ready to have a venue in it,

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Speaker 5: which in itself is millions of dollars.

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Speaker 2: So right, so that's what it needed. Because my understanding

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Speaker 2: is that you guys aren't the first to have a

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Speaker 2: look at it or a crack at it. But the

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Speaker 2: problem was the dosh.

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Speaker 6: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 5: I mean, one thing's for sure and the next sort

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Speaker 5: of well, you know there's going to be more earthquakes

1452
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 5: in New Zealand, right and Wellington's due, so that's a

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01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 5: big thing. Getting at earthquake strengthens a big Okay.

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Speaker 2: So they've got the money, you've got the expertise. How

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01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 2: did you get roped into it? They just said do

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Speaker 2: you want to.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess once a week someone calls me up

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01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 5: and asks me to buy their restaurant and they think

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Speaker 5: it's a brilliant idea. And so that's what happened in

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Speaker 5: this in this case. But I went down there and

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Speaker 5: fell in love with the building and then got along

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Speaker 5: really great with David and the team down there, and.

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Speaker 6: So that was sort of the process.

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Speaker 5: And you've got to be super careful getting into business

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01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 5: with people, and you know, sometimes you just click and

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01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 5: you've got to go with your gut, and all these

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Speaker 5: things sort of sort of played out over the last

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Speaker 5: sort of since the beginning of the year.

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Speaker 2: And then that I without getting too political, did you

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Speaker 2: deal with the council And how was it?

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Speaker 5: Poor David had two Yes, but they've been good and

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Speaker 5: they just don't have the money to fix that. So

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01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 5: it's got to come, you know, from fro.

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01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 2: So there's a mix of business and philanthropy in that sense.

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Speaker 5: So my view is one hundred percent that's the case.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's a good business decision to fix

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Speaker 5: this building. I mean, they're doing it for the community.

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Speaker 2: I believe, So you're in that when does all this

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Speaker 2: happen by the way.

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Speaker 5: I reckon it will open sort of. We're hoping for

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Speaker 5: October next year, okay, yeah, and I'm excited. You know,

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Speaker 5: we've got Garage Project involved and they're part of the

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Speaker 5: sort of cultural fabric of Wellington. So it's been amazing

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Speaker 5: working with that team. They have one of the most

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Speaker 5: amazing beverage companies in New Zealand seeing the alchemy. They

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Speaker 5: make a hundred new beers a year, so it's really cool.

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Speaker 5: So there's some really good sentergies there between food and.

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Speaker 2: In some trouble the other day, I see I've not

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Speaker 2: tasted as zero alcohol beer that I can. I just

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01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 2: don't like it though. There's something about it's just have

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Speaker 2: you got one? Have you tasted one? Is it out there?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Not zero zero tiny percent? So their Garage Project.

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Speaker 2: Five or six percent something like that, just a little yeah, yeah, I.

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01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 5: Think it's point five tiny is really good from Garage

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01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 5: Project beer beer from.

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Speaker 2: SMaL So you you argue they're good beers and you can.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they're drinkable, you go, I mean, I

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Speaker 5: mean those beers are good. Yeah, I mean you you

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Speaker 5: drink them, and and I think when you drink zero

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01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 5: beers or lower it very very low alcohol beers and

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01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 5: you're at a party or whatever, there's some sort of

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01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 5: sort of placebo effect where it's happy and you kind

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01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 5: of I don't know.

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Speaker 2: What I like about you is that, because we talk

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Speaker 2: about the economy a lot in this program and it

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01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: affects everybody, is that you don't seem affected by the

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01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 2: economy and you.

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Speaker 18: Just do what you do.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm kind of nonchalant about it because you can't

1512
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,719
Speaker 5: change it, and we are. Restaurants are a great barometer

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01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 5: of the economy. Just CHRISTI who spin right, So with

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Speaker 5: some of the I don't know, maybe people don't buy

1515
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 5: a new car, they don't go out for dinner. So

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01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 5: you know, second quarter of this year we saw a

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Speaker 5: huge drop because the economy was going backwards and tourism dropped.

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01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 5: So when those two things combine, then it really can

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01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 5: affect restaurants. We had an amazing Christmas, a really good

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01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 5: first quarter.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that really Are you seeing some life now

1522
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 2: in Q three as they say in.

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01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 5: Q three, Yes, I mean it's really dramatically picked up.

1524
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 5: There's been some great activations in Auckland with Auckland Restaurant

1525
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 5: Months and things like that.

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01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 6: And corporates are sort of spending a bit little bit

1527
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 6: more money.

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01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 2: What about your entire empire around the country you were

1529
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 2: a half dozen Well, yeah, you know Queenstown, You're in Queenstow.

1530
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 2: You can't go wrong in queenstonne can you.

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01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 6: Well you can. There's a saying you can sell shit

1532
01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 6: sandwiches in QUEENSTOWND and make money. So apparently yeah I had,

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01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 6: but I din'd live by that just so you know.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, I think when you know, you've

1535
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 5: got summer and winter season and then you've got two

1536
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 5: shoulder seasons. Some years so shoulder seasons are really small

1537
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 5: and some years they're really long. Like last one, for example,

1538
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 5: we didn't have many Australians come over for ski and

1539
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,600
Speaker 5: then this year a lot of Australians.

1540
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 6: So you know, it's swings, It.

1541
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 2: Swings around about. Always good to see you, mate, Go

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Speaker 2: well with thank you. We'll talk close to the time

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Speaker 2: of the Wellington operation. Thanks by Ben Bailey eight twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Asking Mike, I wasn't going to listen to this interview.

1562
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Speaker 2: I thought it wasn't something I'd be interested in, But

1563
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 2: I didn't. I was wrong. It's always interesting to listen

1564
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 2: to someone who's enthusiastic and passionate about what they do

1565
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,759
Speaker 2: because it's inspiring goodness sake show starts at six, finishes

1566
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 2: at nine. No one leaves. It's as simple as that.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I've got a fabulous winner. I was

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Speaker 2: going to do it now. This for the Chemists Warehouse

1569
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Speaker 2: Father's Day. By the way, if you haven't entered news Talk,

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Speaker 2: Zibi dot co dot mst forward slash win and you

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Speaker 2: can win a thousand dollars cash and you'll get a

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Speaker 2: two hundred dollars about you for fragrance of your choice

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Speaker 2: from the real House of Fragrances this Father's Day with

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Speaker 2: Chemist Warehouse. Of course, I cannot do the letter justice.

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01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 2: I thought yesterday's letter was fantastic. There were tears yesterday.

1576
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 2: I was told this. The two people involved were happy

1577
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:09,560
Speaker 2: to be in the same room together when I was

1578
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 2: doing the business, and there were tears. And today's letter

1579
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 2: may even be better, or it may not. I personally

1580
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 2: think it is. Anyway, Well, we'll give away. We'll tell

1581
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Speaker 2: you who it is after the break But in the

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Speaker 2: meantime enter at news Talk, saidb dot co dot m

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Speaker 2: z Ford slash when so the winner in rod Little

1584
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Speaker 2: after the news, which is.

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Speaker 3: Next the breakfast show Kiwi's trust to stay in the know.

1586
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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with range Rover, leading by example,

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Speaker 1: News Talks dead b twenty three to nine when one

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars for Father's Day thanks to Chemist Warehouse, the

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Speaker 1: real house of Fragrancess and News Talks said be.

1590
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I hope you entered during the news. News

1591
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Speaker 2: Talks at me doc dot inzed Ford slash when another

1592
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 2: winner tomorrow, another winter Thursday, another winner Friday. My dad,

1593
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 2: Mike murried Us, is a lead, not the history book variety,

1594
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 2: but because of the way he helped shape my life.

1595
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 2: Like teaching me how to tie things onto the car roof.

1596
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 2: Most dads would use proper straps. Mine he tied it

1597
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 2: down with so many knots that looked like Spider Man

1598
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 2: had a break down. We had to cut the rope

1599
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 2: to get it off, but the lesson stuck. Sometimes it's

1600
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 2: better to overdo it than have the whole load fall

1601
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 2: off halfway home. Or teaching me to mow the lawn.

1602
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 2: Overseeing the operation, arms crossed like a military sergeant pointing

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01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: out every uneven line. At the time, I thought he

1604
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 2: was being picking. Now I just hear that voice in

1605
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 2: my head. If you're going to do it, do it.

1606
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: Properly annoying then, but useful now. That's why he's my hero.

1607
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 2: No big speeches or fancy advice, just lots of small, messy,

1608
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 2: funny moments that shaped me. So that's son him off.

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01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 2: We love that. So your dad, Sonem gets one thousand

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01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: dollars and a voucher from chemist ware House to House

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01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 2: of Fragrances for a fragrance of his choice. We will

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01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 2: do to the nice leader. But does that better than yesterday's?

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01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: Didn't carry the same emotion as yesterday, but I think

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01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 2: there was a much stronger life lesson there.

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01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 7: I don't think that we're really supposed to be playing

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01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 7: them off against each other, saying that somebody's dead or

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01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 7: father figure is better than somebody else's.

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01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 2: I'm into competition when I just like it.

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01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm assuming you're just talking about the quality

1620
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 7: of the letter, not the quality of the dead or

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01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 7: father figure.

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01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 2: I'm going to announce I'm going to take from my

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01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 2: own pocket on Friday an amount of money, and I'm

1624
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 2: going to announce the bestweaker.

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Speaker 7: I say, so, really it becomes a competition for letter

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01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 7: writing skills exactly.

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01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 2: I'm going I'm going to rank them five four three

1628
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 2: two one. So someone's going to be a wonder and

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01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 2: someone isn't. Twenty one minutes.

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Speaker 14: Away International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 14: mind for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Business are the UK ride Morning to you mate, good morning,

1633
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 2: you make three pads? Rainer? Is she I'm endlessly fascinated

1634
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 2: by her endless property empire and the trouble she seems

1635
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 2: to be in. Is this really across the landscape in Britain?

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01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 2: The people genuinely upset by thiss?

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01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 17: It is a bit, It is a bit. She's had

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01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 17: Sekelear Starmer's support today she was very grateful for but

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01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 17: it is yet again a case of you know, do

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01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 17: as we say, not as we as we do. She

1641
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 17: didn't pay it, now transpires, but she didn't pay the

1642
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,799
Speaker 17: proper stamp duty on this flat. She bought it Brighton,

1643
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 17: which forty thousand quid. You know, she called it her

1644
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 17: own home and her main home. And that leaves her constituents,

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01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 17: for example, in near Manchester, thinking well, hang on, isn't

1646
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 17: she meant to be the empty for up here rather

1647
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 17: than three hundred miles away down south? And so it rankles,

1648
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 17: it rankles with her constituents it rankles with the augury

1649
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 17: voters who said, you know, she's doing a taxpayer out

1650
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 17: of forty grand and that's not very good.

1651
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 2: Behavior given all the starmerhairs. And I'll come to his

1652
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 2: reorganization and of his office in just a mind, given

1653
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 2: all the problems at Starma Haas, how does he defend this?

1654
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 2: I mean he needs us like a hole in the head,

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01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 2: doesn't he.

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01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 17: She's just said, I think she's doing an absolutely marmous job.

1657
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 17: And everything she's done us within the law and everything,

1658
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 17: which is what he said every time he's coming to

1659
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 17: We ran into trouble with donations with Waki Dali by

1660
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 17: his suits. He's always said everything was done by the book. Well,

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01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 17: it may have been done by the book, but it sticks,

1662
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 17: and Angela Rayner's housing choices stick, frankly much as did

1663
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 17: all those donations which he took a year ago. So

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01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 17: I don't think he reads the public terribly well on it,

1665
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 17: because the argument was after that disastrous last autumn when

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01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 17: they were done for all manner of sort of taking

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01:17:56,360 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 17: back pocketing donations and free being and everything was well,

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01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 17: we're going to run a tight ship from now on. Well,

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01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 17: there's your deputy Prime minister. You know it doesn't look good.

1670
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 2: No, it does not. His reorganization of his office and

1671
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 2: this is you know, private secretaries and communication chiefs and

1672
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 2: stuff like that. And when you dubbed tell that in

1673
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 2: with what Cooper was saying today about families and bringing

1674
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: it seems they've got real trouble. Is there a panic

1675
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 2: or just angst about the place?

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01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 17: I think there's a fair amount of panic about the place.

1677
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 17: Now we're a year in and things are getting progressively

1678
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 17: worse for the government rather than better. And they didn't

1679
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 17: have a honeymoon period, so you know, I think he's

1680
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,759
Speaker 17: a second least like leader in the world after Emanuel Macron,

1681
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 17: which is something to write home about, isn't it. And

1682
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 17: what happened to turn of the year. He started doing

1683
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 17: vaguely kind of blue laborish things such as taking quite

1684
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 17: a strict line on trans quite a strict line on

1685
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 17: Israel and so on. I'm not criticizing Israel too much.

1686
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 17: Lost the left of his party as a consequence, and

1687
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 17: probably lost quite a few voters in the affluent South

1688
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 17: who objected to this sort of count out into the

1689
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 17: working class vote. And all this was put down to

1690
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 17: being Morgan McSweeney, who is his chief advisor, And it

1691
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 17: now looks as if McSweeney is kind of being edged

1692
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 17: towards the door a little bit that there's a big

1693
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 17: there's a big change and what we will see, I

1694
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 17: think from here on in is a more leftwards tilt

1695
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 17: of the government, certainly beginning with the budget in the autumn.

1696
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: Since we last talk what was it, I mean talking

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01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 2: about Cooper and the refugee family reunion program. Yeah, the

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01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 2: iron surely has not lost on people in places like Epping.

1699
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 2: This happened over the weekend. The government appeals a decision

1700
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 2: and wins the appeal. So it's almost like the government

1701
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 2: versus the people, isn't it? Like you know, you're going

1702
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 2: to have these get st up.

1703
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 17: And that is exactly how it's been seen by an

1704
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 17: awful lot of people that basically it's the government versus

1705
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 17: the people, and the government on the side of asylum

1706
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 17: seekers versus the people. So again that loses of all

1707
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 17: the votes that they might have got as a consequence

1708
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 17: of eve keepers suddenly saying today, well, we're not going

1709
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 17: to let asylum seekers bring their families over. I suspect

1710
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 17: most people in the country didn't know that they were

1711
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 17: allowed to in the first place, is by suspicion. So

1712
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 17: it does go from that to worse for them. Just

1713
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 17: recently Keir Starmer's told Nigel starma off for exaggerating the

1714
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 17: problems which are facing Britain. But they really are, on

1715
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 17: both the economic and the social side of things, pretty immense.

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Speaker 2: You go, well, right, we'll see a Thursday run a

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Speaker 2: little out of Britain if you missed it yesterday. In

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Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours, the UK has also secured

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Speaker 2: ten billion pounds worth of military for the Norwegians to

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Speaker 2: twenty six frigates. So that's the biggest ever warship export

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Speaker 2: deal by value. Also, the bank, the banks had a

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Speaker 2: tough end of the week last week. Remember, of course

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Speaker 2: it's Monday. In that particular part of the world. There

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Speaker 2: was a rumor floating around the Institute for Public Policy

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01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 2: Research was arguing publicly that we need a what they

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Speaker 2: call windfall profits, and they saw banks as a nice

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Speaker 2: repository of for profits. In other words, if Reebs is

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Speaker 2: looking for money, how about she goes in taxes the banks,

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Speaker 2: at which point they said she could raise eight billion

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Speaker 2: a year by doing that, and that's pounds, so at

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Speaker 2: which point the shares fell through the floor for fairly

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Speaker 2: obvious reasons. A forty five The like.

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Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on I have Radio powered

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Speaker 2: B I lied the other day on the show. I said,

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Speaker 2: what I forgotten what I called you on the Smeg promotion?

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Speaker 2: What was the little thing we decided it was called

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Speaker 2: the little flat thing that you put it utensil dish.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't a dish, was a cradle or it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: A cradle, no, whatever, it was whatever we decided. I

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Speaker 2: said I had two of them. I've actually got five.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize. So there was just I know, I

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Speaker 2: was just reading yesterday that the New World in Thornton.

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Speaker 2: It's always Thornton, you know, you know Wellington, you know Thornton. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: there was a frenzy on yesterday because it's coming to

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Speaker 2: an end and they've started running out of some of

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Speaker 2: the stuff, so a lot of people have got stickers.

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Speaker 2: We've still got stickers at home. And we sat down

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Speaker 2: at lunch yesterday and we were talking about this, and

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Speaker 2: that's where I got the revelation that I had five

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Speaker 2: of these utensil things, and we had the big brazier.

1752
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 2: The big one was was the cast iron brazier. But

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01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 2: the problem with the brazier was you had to have

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01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 2: all the stickers plus some money, and I fundamentally objected

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Speaker 2: a handing over money. But I objected to it. After

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01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 2: apparently we got the braziert home, so that was the

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01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 2: end of that. Then there were these many cocots. Is

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Speaker 2: a Cocott's, Yeah, We've got eighty seven of those. And

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01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 2: so anyway, we concluded, and this was the problem with

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Speaker 2: our excess stamps. We concluded that this promotion has been

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01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 2: a bust. That the best promotion has been the Speak

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Speaker 2: Glarer glasses. And then the second promotion there were some

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Speaker 2: black cookware, black sort of African cookwhear. We decided they

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Speaker 2: were quite good, but the Smeg one hasn't worked. Most

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01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 2: of the Smeg stuff. This is Katie, not me. I

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Speaker 2: couldn't care less what it was. All I know is

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01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 2: I've got a lot of crockery around the house. She declared.

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01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 2: It was hopeless. Anyway, people are starting to get angry.

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Speaker 2: There's not enough.

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Speaker 7: I'll be very angry now. And knowing that you're holding

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01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 7: all the well, the senil.

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Speaker 2: Rests utensil rests I have. I'll sell them for first

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Speaker 2: person with nine dollars fifty You have a utensil rest.

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Speaker 2: So the cocots are in short supply. The bakers are

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01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 2: in large supply. As for your cast iron brazer. Forget it.

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Speaker 7: When the knives good, didn't everybody love the knives?

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Speaker 17: Yes?

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Speaker 2: The knives were good? So knives? And what did I

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Speaker 2: say was best to speak glug glasses?

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01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 7: Who's with the knives with Jamie Olivers?

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01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 3: Yes?

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01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 2: Yes, And we also got some sorcepans, Master Chef Saucepans.

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Speaker 7: I hang on, We're now somebody trying to claim that

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01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:00,560
Speaker 7: they were saves.

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01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 2: No, they weren't smack knives. No way, they're not smag.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have a snag knife in my house.

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Speaker 9: What are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm having enough trouble.

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Speaker 7: We've got there from two sources, now that they were

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Speaker 7: snag nocked.

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01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 2: Now I don't have two sources. What do you mean

1792
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 2: two source pans. It's getting confusing anyway, it's two your prices.

1793
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Speaker 7: Oh, I need to I need to rest have one

1794
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 7: of those risks up shots.

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Speaker 2: We have declared the smeg closed. Boring, stupid come up

1796
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Speaker 2: with something.

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Speaker 7: Oh, it's easy for you to say, mister, you took

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Speaker 7: about three pairs ray, Now what about five rest Tsking

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Speaker 2: James Norton is your biggest name in that particular. One

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Speaker 2: September twenty five, on Netflix, they were Smig knives. Sam

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Speaker 2: was right. I was wrong. By apologies, Sam sold the

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Speaker 2: he got this mid block and he stuck it on trade.

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Speaker 2: He got to eighty nodge hed. I mean that was

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Speaker 2: you should be ashamed of it, taking three stuff and

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Speaker 2: selling it on trade. Mat you reckon.

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Speaker 7: That comes close to how much extra he had to

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Speaker 7: pay in the first place to get the knives.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell them that it's time. Agin An upset him.

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Speaker 2: Last sip of lemon water and then I'll be on

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Speaker 2: my way. We'll look to reconvene sometime around six o'clock

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Speaker 2: tomorrow morning, as we always. Happy days.

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