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Speaker 1: Bryan Bridge Orcer Council's Community Committee has sent a please

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Speaker 1: help let it to the government after increasing homelessness. That

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Speaker 1: comes after stats were released from them showing the number

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Speaker 1: of homeless people in the city, that's those who are

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Speaker 1: living in parks or in cars are on the street

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Speaker 1: was up by fifty three percent between September and December.

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Speaker 1: Angela Dalton's the chair of that committee and she's with me. Now, Hello, Hi,

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Speaker 1: great to have you on the show. So is homelessness

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Speaker 1: really bad at the moment?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. That's what we're experiencing in Auckland as

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Speaker 2: a region.

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Speaker 1: So that's September we had four hundred and twenty six

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Speaker 1: people on the count. January there's six hundred and fifty three.

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Speaker 1: How does that compare to previous quarters.

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Speaker 2: Look, it's just the size of the increase, right, that

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Speaker 2: is really quite shocking for us. So we haven't seen

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Speaker 2: such a spike like that before and for us sort

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Speaker 2: of co wincident along with a lot of other factors

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Speaker 2: which would expect to put stress onto people living in

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Speaker 2: a home, renting in a home.

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Speaker 1: So it's not seasonal, it's not because we've got warmer weather.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what were the numbers last dast January.

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Speaker 2: I haven't got the numbers on there for January last year.

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Speaker 2: But this is not a stuasonal spike that we're seeing.

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Speaker 1: Right, Do you know how these numbers compare those to

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Speaker 1: previous quarters?

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Speaker 2: The specifically the spike is higher than previous quarters, but

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Speaker 2: the increase in numbers that we're seen, and it's what's

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Speaker 2: really harder to get a good count. And that's what

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Speaker 2: I'm asking, that's what we're asking for the government.

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Speaker 1: So is this not a good.

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Speaker 2: Account, really good count?

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Speaker 1: You come out and said these numbers are diabolical fifty

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Speaker 1: three percent increase, But they're not good numbers.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to be the total numbers. They're going

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Speaker 2: to be better numbers than what we're seeing from the government.

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Speaker 2: And that is something that my experience is consistent, is

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Speaker 2: that the numbers of the government might have on their

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Speaker 2: sites will be quite different to what we experience on

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Speaker 2: the ground. The way I'm talking about the homeless sector

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Speaker 2: and natures where I'll get the information from these people.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about six hundred and fifty three people in

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Speaker 1: January in cars, parks or on streets. Who does someone

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Speaker 1: go and count them? One night. How does it work.

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Speaker 2: We're the homeless sector, which is you know a number

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Speaker 2: of different agencies are out there and they some of

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Speaker 2: them are a long term homeless people, someone new, so

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Speaker 2: they know the new ones and they know the existing ones,

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Speaker 2: so yes, between them all, so they all come together,

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Speaker 2: Allkland counselors at that table with those agencies and so

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Speaker 2: this is how we get a pretty good picture of

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Speaker 2: what's going on.

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Speaker 1: And you're saying this number six fifty three has never

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Speaker 1: been that high before.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that it has never been that high before,

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Speaker 2: I am, but it.

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Speaker 1: Is because it sounds quite alarming.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well wear alarmed all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Angela, it sounds like you are. Thank you for that,

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Speaker 1: Angela A Dulton, chair of Auckland Council's Community Committee. For

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