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Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.

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Speaker 2: Senior political correspondent Barry Soper in studio, Get a berry.

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Speaker 3: Good Ale, It's nice to be here again.

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Speaker 2: Great to see you too, Barry. So is it realistic

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Speaker 2: that Luxeon will be replaced anytime soon? And should national

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Speaker 2: be worried about a poll eighteen months out for the election?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are two quite distinct questions. I think there

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Speaker 3: will be worry in the National ranks, there's no doubt

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Speaker 3: about this. And don't forget this. Polster is their own polster,

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Speaker 3: the Curier pole, so it is their own. It's not

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Speaker 3: the Talbot pole, which is the Labor Party posters. So

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Speaker 3: it's put Labor marginally ahead of the National Party, even

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Speaker 3: though both main parties have gone up in their rankings.

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Speaker 3: But when it comes down to Chris Luxon, you know, look,

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Speaker 3: he's had one hell of a time since he took

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Speaker 3: over his primers. There was no it was a baptism afar,

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Speaker 3: there was no honeymoon. The gallery has been on his

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Speaker 3: case ever since he came in, and I think the

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Speaker 3: public has as well, because they believe that after these

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Speaker 3: dreadful three years that have just been through the COVID

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Speaker 3: years and post COVID that things should have been put

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Speaker 3: right almost immediately, and that's the expectation of the voter,

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Speaker 3: but they could never be. So you've got a government

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Speaker 3: here that really hasn't made significant gains and that's what

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Speaker 3: the public wants. So they're disappointed. And if an election

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Speaker 3: was held now, fortunately there won't be one. The center

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Speaker 3: left would have the numbers, the center right, even with

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Speaker 3: New Zealand first, wouldn't. So it's not good. Look at

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Speaker 3: the polls. Sorry, sorry, I'll just rave on about this

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Speaker 3: last bit. But if you look at the average of

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Speaker 3: a third prime minister through the ages, and I thought,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's interesting to see just how prime ministers

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Speaker 3: did poll. Look at Helen Clark that she used in

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Speaker 3: opposition poll appallingly she had an average of sixty four

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Speaker 3: percent in the nine years.

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Speaker 2: She was, Wow, far that something anything for those kind

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Speaker 2: of numbers now, absolutely, yeah, fascinating stuff.

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Speaker 1: Is always very good to see you again. We'll catch

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Speaker 1: up soon.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, didn't get a word in edgewise. Chaps.

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