1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Plans to go kes from field. Very good morning to you. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike. 3 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: The Georgia election interesting. So pro Russia, b PO, pro EU. 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: It looks like Russia wins. 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 3: It does look a bit like that, although there are 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 3: allegations coming from election observers of ballot box stuffing, of intimidation, 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: coercion among voters. I mean, as I'm speaking to Mike, 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 3: seeing pictures coming home of a big demonstration in the 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: center of the capital Tbilis, tens of thousands coming out 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: onto the streets. They've been called up there by the president, 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: Salame Zerahbashpheeley, who alleges there were irregularities in the vote. 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 3: She actually has come out and said that this was 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 3: what she described as a Russian special operation. 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: They say that in. 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: Fact, the ruling party, the Georgian Dream, that Pro Russia party, 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: won only forty percent of the votes. 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: So it's a real worry. 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: Actually for that region because when you look at that region, Mike, 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: you've got so many tensions there. 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: You've got Georgia itself. 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: You know, it's split between Russia, Iran, Turkey, all of 22 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: them claiming a bit of it. We saw back in 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: what twenty eight Russia invaded parts. 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: Of Georgia, which I said, we had a. 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 3: Big Russian minority living there. There are still UN and 26 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 3: EU observers that station there to try and stop more 27 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: conflict happening there. So it's a real concern that yet 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: again you're seeing on Europe's eastern flank pro Russian parties, 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 3: oligarchs taking power, and question marks over exactly whether or 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: not these were free or fair elections exactly. 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: So the next question is is anyone actually apart from 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: the people on the street, going to do anything about it? 33 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: And then you come to another election, which is in America, 34 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: and of a certain bloke who was standing in Medicine 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: Square Garden yesterday wins. The implications for the EU, I 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: would have thought are enormous. 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: Oh, just absolutely enormous. 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: I mean they have started thinking about this, what about 39 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: three years ago when former President Donald Trump said that 40 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: he was going to have another shot at getting back 41 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: into the White House. What they're looking at is you're 42 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: actually operating on what he has said rather than what 43 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: he might do. So what the EU had done already, 44 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 3: that's set up a special task force. They're calling it 45 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: a rapid reaction force that will hit the ground as 46 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: soon as the winner is announced. They do not expect 47 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: any changes to wait until. 48 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: Inauguration next year. 49 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: They're expecting that if Trump wins, these changes will happen 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: very quickly, so they've. 51 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: Set up this task force. 52 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: We're already seeing ambassadors, we're seeing people from various countries 53 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: coming to Brussels to talk about what could happen. So 54 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: essentially they're saying that they know that Trump will not 55 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: defend NATO, particularly what he described as delinquent NATO allies, 56 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: that is, those that don't pay enough into their coffers 57 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: to pay for their defense. They're also expecting if he 58 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: does come to power, that there will be immediate across 59 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: the world tariffs of between ten and twenty percent on imports. 60 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: So that's what they're looking at. They're also having a 61 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: very close look at Trump's entourage who would come in, 62 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: what his policies would be on on defense. 63 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: Also a lot you know, you're also seeing here in France. 64 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: The French Foreign Ministry has set up a special task 65 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: force to look at this as well, because I think 66 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: one of their concerns is Mike, that Trump will exploit 67 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 3: internal EU divisions, perhaps start picking off certain countries because 68 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: they know he does prefer bilateral relations rather than relations 69 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: with these big groupings such as the European Union. 70 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: Grant insight. Well done, Catherine Ketch up next Tuesday. Appreciate 71 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: it very much. What you can say about Trump that's irrefutable, 72 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: of course, is that when he first became president, there 73 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: were a lot of countries with a NATO that weren't 74 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: paying their way. America pays over three percent of GDP, 75 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: whereas much of the countries didn't play the two percent 76 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: they said they would pay. And now if you look 77 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: at the number of countries paying the two percent plus 78 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: as a direct result of his basically pointing the finger 79 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: and say pull it out and get on with it, 80 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: he can climb the victory in that department. I would 81 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: have thought for more from the mic asking Breakfast, listen 82 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: live to news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, 83 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.