1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Welcome along to the Unnamed Podcast. It's Friday, the first 2 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: of November twenty twenty four. 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: Get a kiwis. 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: We've been. 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 3: We've been. 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: Welcoming people in different ways for the whole week. We've 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: had Italian, We've had French, We've had Chinese. Have we 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: no German? 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 4: Did we have German? Or is that me make them? 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: I think we're I don't think we had German. Okay, 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: So today we've got an Australian Welcome Australia. Yeah, Australia, 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: great place, great country. 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 5: Great country, but people in that not so much people. Yeah, 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 5: I mean Australia would I mean, it'd be a great 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 5: place if it didn't have Australians in it. 16 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: I reckon. I was in Australia just last week and 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: I thought a lot about Australia while I was over there. Yeah, 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: as you do when you're in Australia. 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: Are they the spiritual country of the Smoke Show? Or 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: is that still Holland? 21 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: Tell you what not, Holland. I mean you saw what 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: we saw was going on there. Man at his next 23 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: level Holland, ridiculous, ridiculous men and woman, just smoking of ridiculous. 24 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Something for the mum something for the deads. It's got 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: something that with the biking around all the time, so 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: everybody's got a great ass. 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 5: Yet everybody I remember drafting in behind one particular ass 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 5: for some time. 29 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: I've got some photos of that. I took a photo. 30 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: Was that bad that got us going? Because that was 31 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 2: a long day? That one that was dog That was 32 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: dog shit shirt day? 33 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? I wasn't. 34 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: Yeah it was. 35 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 5: I was coming to the end of a very traumatic 36 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 5: day and it was just a nice way to finish 37 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 5: it off. 38 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: Was that dog shit shirt? 39 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? 40 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: It was. 41 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: Was it a shoot or jacket? 42 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 2: It was a shacket. It was a jacket. 43 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a half jacket half shirt situation. And 44 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 5: it was only on the on the elbow and the sleeve. 45 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 5: It wasn't all over the jacket. But I think the 46 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 5: story has been exaggerated a little bit. But I did 47 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 5: roll in it. 48 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 6: Do you have a photo of the the the ship 49 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 6: on the. 50 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: Jet, No, there was too much laughter going on for 51 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: about ten minutes. 52 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: Here's a photo of the of the person who we were, 53 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: who we were drafting them behind. And if you could 54 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: see what we could see in the flesh, it was 55 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: that was something. I mean that's that's an unflattering stride. 56 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: That's taking Yeah, that's a little bit. That's not doing 57 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: that's not doing anything justice out of curiosity. 58 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 6: Is it something that you guys do is take photos 59 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 6: of people on the street and see mates, Well, we 60 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 6: were just walking. 61 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 1: I just needed to document. I wasn't taking of the person. 62 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: I just needed to document the moment. So one day 63 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: when I look back in my phone, I'll be go, oh, 64 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: that's right, and I remember that. 65 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 6: I remember that situation because I mean, I'm glad you 66 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 6: have because she's she's at great bumpy, but I was 67 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 6: just my friend. 68 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: Group. 69 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 5: They're trying to avoid the sex, the gender of the photo, 70 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 5: but you've just gone out and ruined that. 71 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 6: He's got a great of Jesus, that guy. You don't 72 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 6: need to take photos of that at. 73 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: What's happening to that person's Look at the fucking womb 74 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: room that's stayed three. 75 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: Look, I'm just look. 76 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 5: I'm just gonna have to say, I'm glad they didn't 77 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 5: swab my mustache back through customs. When we came back 78 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 5: from Amsterdam and Munich. 79 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: The lolly steal one of those drug dogs was just 80 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: licking your face. 81 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: Three Lolly's at the hotel. 82 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: That was good. 83 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: That's in the foyer. You can just help yourself to 84 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 1: these ones here, absolutely delicious. They were like the Sherberty Yeah, 85 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: candy colored love hearts things. They were really really good. 86 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: I lived on and something else. So did Matt Heath 87 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: go on that trip and that. 88 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 5: So going back to the Australian you're seeing, you've spent 89 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 5: a lot of time thinking about Australia when you were 90 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 5: on in Byron Bay. Yeah, Byron Bay is not really Australia, 91 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 5: was it. It's a little like a longclave. 92 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: What would you call it? 93 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: Then? 94 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: If it's not Australia, what is it. 95 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 5: It's kind of like what Austin is to Texas, you 96 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 5: know what I mean. It's kind of this weird enclave 97 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 5: of people who are a bit different lifestyle choices. 98 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: Back in the day, it was, and it was it 99 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: was a surfing community because it was a cape. Cape 100 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: Barron's the most eastern port of Australia. Yeah, it's got 101 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: a lighthouse on the top there, Cape Byron. And because 102 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: Cape points shuts out, you've got Beaches's got Tallow's Beach 103 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: on the south and then you've got the main Barron 104 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: Bay Beach on the north. Yes, so if you get 105 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: a southernly, you get the off you get the offshore 106 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: going for the for the northern beach, and vice versa. 107 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: So there's always a good wind for surf plus you 108 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: gets well coming through the so great surfing spot. So 109 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: I think that's what initially attracted a lot of surfers 110 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: to it. 111 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: And surfers bring smoke shows. 112 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: Surfers have great rigs, yeah, like the best rigs. Yeah, 113 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: there's no one that has a better rig than a surfer. 114 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: So I think there was that part. Then there was 115 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: alternative lifestylers and they sort of came down from they 116 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: got pushed up from and it's it's south, it's northern 117 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: New South Wales, but it's southern. It's obviously over the 118 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: border from Queensland. So a lot of the people got 119 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: pushed down from the Goldie because Goldie became very commercial, 120 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: and then they got pushed up from New South Wales. 121 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: So there was a real hippy kind of community once 122 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: upon a time. They've now moved to mull and Bimbi, 123 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: Mullen Bimby, Mullen Bimbi, which is inland. 124 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: So I go away from the coast and into Mullen Bimbi. 125 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: Mullen Bimbi sounds hot. Yeah, Mullen Bimbi is a bit hotter, definitely, 126 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: it's about four degrees hotter, not in terms of its people, 127 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: just in terms of its temperature. But it's also very 128 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: very happy and kind of and of course Nimbin Ninben 129 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 2: which is up that way, so it's quite a weird 130 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: happy kind of community going on there. But anyway, I 131 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: think nowadays Byron Bay it's the best of us. 132 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: It's still retained its beachy kind of vibe more than 133 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: the Mound, Like it's more beachy than the Mound. You 134 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: still see a bit of sand in the street, you know, 135 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: there's still sand in the street, and they've just kind 136 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: of left the sidewalks a bit kind of ramshackle with 137 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: weeds growing out them and stuff. But then there's no 138 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: McDonald's and there's no bloody change shit there and all 139 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, and there's nothing over eleven meters. 140 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: You're not allowed to build a building over eleven meters, 141 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: so she's all low rise. 142 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: No shitty goldie towers. 143 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: Nah. Property is spinning there super expensive because of that, 144 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: because you can't go up, and they also it's quite hard. 145 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: They just won't develop. And much national park around that, 146 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: yeah there is. Yeah, there's full National park going on there. 147 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: And Cape Byron the water goes beach where I think 148 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: what it goes is the most which is the beach 149 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: underneath the cape, the lighthouse there on the point. That's 150 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: a little micro climate, so it sort of faces north 151 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: and but it gets the clouds don't get out there. 152 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: It's quite weird. 153 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: And so you were thinking about Australia a lot while 154 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: you were there. 155 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just thinking about when you like, firstly, 156 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the original inhabitants of Australia forty years, 157 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: the Aboriginal Australians living there. And I was thinking about 158 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: the different and there were something like three and I 159 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: read some of three and a half thousand different languages, 160 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: and so the languages were completely different when they couldn't 161 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: speak to each other and stuff, and about inhabiting that 162 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: place for forty thousand years, and then all of a sudden, 163 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: these people arrive in the seventeen hundreds, real pale white 164 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: people and arriving on the shore and imagine arriving in 165 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: summer in like Queensland. Oh yeah, and you come ashore 166 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: and the animals that you would say, the weirdest bunch 167 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: of animals one bats that have existed completely on Australia 168 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: by themselves, completely foreign. Because we look at a beach 169 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: and we think, yeah, beautiful, beautiful sunshine, et cetera. But 170 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: if you were wearing a pair of breeches and a 171 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: woolen jacket, you know, in an army uniform and a hat, 172 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: stupid hat, and you and you rode ashore, you don't 173 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: want the heat, you don't want the surf, you don't 174 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: want the beaches, especially with the snakes and the poisonous crap. 175 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: You wouldn't even know what all that stuff was. 176 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: They would have thought it was a bit of a 177 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: hell hole, wouldn't they. 178 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 5: That's why they ended up going back and Luis, you'd 179 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 5: seen all the dirt bags here. 180 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: But it's so big the country. It's huge, It's massive, 181 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: it's bloody huge. Australia. 182 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,239 Speaker 2: Is it one of the biggest countries in the world. 183 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: It's its own almost in. 184 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: Terms of its land. Yes, yeah, I think it's a 185 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: lot bigger than what it looks on the map. 186 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: China and Russia maybe about the only other countries in 187 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: Monty bigger. I don't know, I'm making that up, but 188 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: you're not too far. When I look at a. 189 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: Map, that's what Russia's biggest America is. It's about the 190 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: size of America, isn't it North America. I've got fifth there. 191 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 6: Do you have on your list over there? 192 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: It's pretty good. 193 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 6: I've got Russia, Canada, China, the States, Brazil, Australia six 194 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 6: and then that's so they're above. 195 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: Indiana and the area. Yeah, do you know what, it's actually. 196 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: A little bit of an under the biggest island anyway. 197 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: Yes, Argentina's eight. 198 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 6: Argentina's bigger than a Kazakhs. 199 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: Sounds huge. It's a long, skinny chip. It's a skinny 200 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: old thing old. Yeah, it's down a long. 201 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: Way, bloody long. Canada is big, but half of its ice. 202 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: And actually, you know, when you look at those countries 203 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: and the same as Russia, half of it's just tundra 204 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: that you can't use. But you've got to say the States, 205 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: it's no surprise that the States, which pretty much all 206 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: of it is inhabited, is apart from a little bit 207 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: of desert in the middle. You know, most of it's 208 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: really useful. And plus they've got oil and also, I 209 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: mean the States is blessed with so much amazing stuff. 210 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: We're seventy six, but I reckon on a per capita basis, 211 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: we're probably. 212 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: Capital We always punch above. 213 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 4: Were seventy six England, the UK is eighty, so we've 214 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: got more area than the UK. 215 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: So anyway, we've got a bit way late because we 216 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: were going to talk to Carl Stephen, who's the front 217 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: man for Super Groove, and we were talking yesterday about 218 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: this ad here. 219 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 7: We were hanging. 220 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: Humble going when you're spoiling for a bike. 221 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: Starting along with. 222 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: You know what I now? 223 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was the Muncho's ad from the nineties 224 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: with Melvin Inger in it. 225 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: Jeez, I they had a bit of money on Munch's, 226 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: didn't they. 227 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: They had a lot of money. And so we reached 228 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: out to Carl Stephen and he has agreed to chet 229 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: to us about the Muncho's ad, probably reluctantly. Yeah, you know, 230 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: it's one of. 231 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: Those long time ago, one of those things that he 232 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: probably had got a lot of ship at the time 233 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 2: that ben because remembe back then selling out would be 234 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 2: like fucking sellouts. You know what I mean. 235 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: Well, i'd like to know about that. Yeah, so I 236 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: want to ask him about that. I want to ask 237 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: him how it came about. I want to also ask 238 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: him about some lyrics, because there's the beginning part where 239 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: it says we were hanging loose, we were working for Bruce. 240 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: Who's Bruce? Just got coming up here? Who's Bruce? 241 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: We were humble and going down. As well as that, 242 00:10:59,320 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: there was. 243 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: A rum I'm going down. Oh okay, so we've got that. 244 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: But we were hanging loose. We we're working for Bruce. 245 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: There was a rumble going down my munche that but 246 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: there is that actually says there were there. We had 247 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: a case of the munches or something. 248 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: It was us against the money. 249 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: It was us, it was us. I good some mun choes. 250 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 4: They over nil stoned when they're doing this song. 251 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: Well, we need to ask Carl Stephen these questions. There's 252 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: so many questions. 253 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: It's very mighty boosh that song. I can imagine you 254 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: know Nolan and what are they? Guy was called yeah 255 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: singing that song. I got the mund cheese. 256 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: It was also good. Some mun choes that's quite anyway, 257 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: Should we give should we take a break and we'll 258 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: come back with Carl Steven who can explain to us 259 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: a whole lot of stuff that needs to be answered. 260 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four about the Eater Muncho's ad from 261 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three, welcome back, and supergroof funt man Cal 262 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: Stephen joins us. Get a Carl, how. 263 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: Are you hello? 264 00:11:59,559 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 7: Good thing? 265 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks so much for talking to us. We were 266 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: talking yesterday on the podcast about the Munchos ad from 267 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two. This ad here one of the great ads, were. 268 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 3: Normal goings when you're spoiling for a bike module wrong, you. 269 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: Know what I mean. And there are so many questions 270 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: which need to be asked, and you are the perfect 271 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: person to answer them color because you were there from 272 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: the start of the whole thing. Firstly, how did the 273 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: ad come about? 274 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: Wow? 275 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 7: I worked at a recording studio that did music and 276 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 7: also stuff for ad agencies, and so I think that 277 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 7: that's how the ad agency sort of got wind of that. 278 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 7: There was this young band of musicians because we were 279 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 7: recording and we were gigging and we did some Christmas 280 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 7: parties for ad agencies and stuff much for Peril. Yeah, 281 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 7: And so they asked us and we were like, wow, 282 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 7: they want to pay us, you know, this is incredible, 283 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 7: and we just said yes when they just waved a 284 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 7: check in front of us. 285 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: Basically, well, because you would have been quite young at 286 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: the stage. You're still in your teens. 287 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we're all in our teams, but most of 288 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 7: the guys were still at school. But I left school 289 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 7: early to go work in that studio. 290 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, and we'd probably be talking because this 291 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: is the early nineties, We're probably talking about quite a 292 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: lot of money here, because there was a lot of 293 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: money floating around and advertising in those days. 294 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 7: Well, when I think back on it, it certainly seemed 295 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 7: like a lot of money, but I don't actually think 296 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 7: it was. When I sort of when the figures danced 297 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 7: before my eyes, now it's like, was that Like, yeah, 298 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 7: I can't. I couldn't say it because I'm sure that 299 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 7: would be inappropriate to the ad agency involved. But they 300 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 7: certainly got a good deal. 301 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: I think I did. 302 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but super groove at that stuff. So it 303 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: was it was super groove. We're getting a name for 304 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: themselves getting around the place. But you had you released 305 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: any material, any albums at the stage. 306 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 7: No albums, but we had released a single, but but 307 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 7: it was I think just in the earliest, earliest stages. 308 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 7: And one of the motivations for doing the ad actually 309 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 7: was that when we tried to book shows up and 310 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 7: down the country, basically the ads were just a flat no, 311 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 7: you know, because we were too young and and touring 312 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 7: bands wasn't really a thing at that time in art. 313 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 7: It was more like nightclubs, you know, so you just 314 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 7: danced to the hits, you know. And so so what 315 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 7: the ad gave us was once it was on air, 316 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 7: the venue, our manager could talk to the venues and 317 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 7: say the ore the guys from the Muncho's ad, and 318 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 7: then the venues like, oh yeah, no, definitely, oh yeah, 319 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 7: get him on Yeah. 320 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: A different place in nineties, doesn't that Wow? 321 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 7: Yeah? 322 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So the song itself, did you write the song 323 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: or did you write the lyrics to the song? 324 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 7: We wrote the music and I think consulted a little 325 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 7: bit on the you know, the sort of flow of 326 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 7: the rhymes. But but it was written by that agency. 327 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 7: They wrote the sort of script if you. 328 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: Like that, okay, because melman Ninger features in it, which 329 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: is kind of weird. 330 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: He was big though in the early nineties he was 331 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: one of the biggest sports stars in Australasia. 332 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: Well he was, But if you look at it now, 333 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: you wonder, why is melman Ninger featuring? 334 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: Like is he Mancho's Australia? 335 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 7: Maybe I have no idea, And I didn't know who 336 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 7: he was at the time. Only our drummer knew who 337 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 7: he was because it was so ignorant about sports and stuff. 338 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: Classic drummer. Yeah, that's right. 339 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 7: And the drummer was like embarrassed of us and meeting Melmaninger. 340 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 7: But for us, it was just some famous sports guy 341 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 7: from some sort of rugby. Didn't know whether it was 342 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 7: like touch or league or rugby union or quite what 343 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 7: he did to play. 344 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 4: Putting on my alliteration, hat is it because Mancho started 345 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 4: with M and so they got someone with two m's 346 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: in their name, someone famous. Jow, that's what I would 347 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 4: have done in the night. 348 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 7: That's how they think, you know, out there in the 349 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 7: around the boardroom table, I'm putting a lot of ms. 350 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 5: Michael Jones one, right, yeah, Mike Myers. 351 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: It's an odd it's I've always I remember at the time, 352 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: and it was as a super catchy tune, and I 353 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: remember at the time was sort of wondering what the 354 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: hell Melmanninger was doing in there, but as well, with 355 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: the eyebrows, it looked like he was. It was kind 356 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: of part of a separate thing, I imagine. And he 357 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: delivers his line so flat. It's just such a low 358 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: energy line. 359 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 7: It's it's funny you should say that because he struggled 360 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 7: enormously delivering. 361 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: That life right, I get the sense of that. 362 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 7: Yeah. And so what we had to do is, because I, 363 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 7: like I said, worked in this recording studio, I had 364 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 7: to actually voice his part as a guide for him 365 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 7: so he could hear me say it. And then he 366 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 7: came in and you know I would say it along 367 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 7: with my recorded version of him saying it. He could 368 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 7: get it. But that was that was definitely the best 369 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 7: take we could get. 370 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: You a little little. 371 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 7: Spot that he has to the hole in the neliestus 372 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 7: read and it wasn't his favorite thing. 373 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: When you're spoiling for a bike. 374 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: You did pretty well in the end, well, probably thanks 375 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: to Carl and his timing. 376 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,239 Speaker 5: And when you're spoiling for a bike, So that was 377 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 5: when you're spoiling for a bite five had five words. 378 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: Oh wow, so someone's gone we want melman Ninger in 379 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: this ad. We've got super groove, We've got a great 380 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: catchy show and we want melman Ninger. We want him 381 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: to be the guy who says that he's hungry for 382 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: munchos at that particular time. We don't know how well 383 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: he can perform, but we want Melmanninger. He's an Australian 384 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: Relely League guy. He's not even a New Zealander. Because 385 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: did this ad play in Australia as well? Cal do 386 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: you know? 387 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 7: I don't think so, to be honest, because we would 388 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 7: have been a little bit better now in Australia if 389 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 7: it had so. I think it was just local and 390 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 7: there were a couple of models in there as well dancers. 391 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 7: I remember when we did the shoot in the car park, 392 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 7: one of the things that they were very concerned about 393 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 7: is we weren't allowed to speak to or you know, 394 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 7: approach the models in any way. So we had to 395 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 7: sit at the other side of the car park while 396 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 7: they did all their dancing stuff from just sort of 397 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 7: light the other at. 398 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: The side right. Was Mel allowed to approach the models? 399 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 7: Well, it seemed to be like they were the stars, 400 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 7: you know, like so they were allowed to hang out together, 401 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 7: and we were like just the fresh meat that had 402 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 7: to sort of you know, wrap on demand when yeah, 403 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 7: they shine the light on us. 404 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's get into the lyrics, because this has 405 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: always been a bone of content for me, only because 406 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't say it says we were hanging loose. We 407 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: were working for Bruce. Who the fuck is Bruce? 408 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 7: Well, it's actually we were hanging loose. It's probably you 409 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 7: can't understand it through our thick American accents that I'm 410 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 7: not sure where they came from, but I think that 411 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 7: was just when we were at that age when you 412 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 7: sort of like you listen to music and it's all 413 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 7: from America and then so it's like I'm going to 414 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 7: make some music and you open your mouth and you 415 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 7: know you're from Wyoming or whatever. So that took us 416 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 7: a while to kind of twigs that we weren't Americans 417 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 7: and then singing our own voices. But anyway, it's we 418 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 7: were hanging loose. When word came from Goose. 419 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: Who's Goose? 420 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 7: Well, that's an ad agency question. I think their assumption 421 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 7: was Goose is one of this gang of music kids. 422 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: Okay, well, there's a big assumption there came from when 423 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: word came from Goose, Okay, well that makes sense because 424 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: it's not Bruce. Goose is like, that's exactly what an 425 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: aired agency would do. Oh my god, that's so aired agency. 426 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: Because as well, I guess top Gun was only top 427 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: Gun had only come out what like six years before 428 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: then or something ghost from top Gun maybe. 429 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 7: Oh, is there a Goosen top Gun. 430 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a Goose. There's a Goose and top. 431 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 2: Well, there might be a creative director called Goose because 432 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: they did that kind of thing where they would chuck 433 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 2: a little lista eggain. Oh yeah, so something like that. 434 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: But these yeah, so okay, so that when word came 435 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: from ghosts there was a rumble going down. Now, when 436 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: I was fourteen and I and I first saw the SAD, 437 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: I always thought that shay Fou said there was a 438 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: zigg as a mucha, but that's not what he said. 439 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: And I always thought that was quite a cool line, 440 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: although it didn't really make any sense at all. But 441 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: I thought there was a ziggers a Much. I thought, 442 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: who the hell is ziggers a much? But I didn't 443 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: know who Bruce was either, So there was a lot 444 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: of assumed knowledge going on. But it turns out it 445 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: actually says it was us against the munches. 446 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 7: Perhaps that's correct. I see again, it's the American accent, 447 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 7: it was. And of course when we do American accent, 448 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 7: you know, they're not recognizable as such two people in America, 449 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 7: for instance, they're just some weird way of speaking. So 450 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 7: so that's yeah, it was us against the monchies. 451 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: It was us against which is quite a hard line 452 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: to rap, to be honest, it was us against the munchies. 453 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: I think that's quite a hard thing to say, not 454 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: for a professional that he's a very good rappers. So 455 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: so it goes it was us against the munchies. And 456 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: then how does it go? And what's the next? 457 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 7: Thing? Looked grim. 458 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: And then something the man turned up and said, okay, 459 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: let's have a listening again. Okay, here we go. There's 460 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: a rumble going down. It was us against the munchies. 461 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: Things looked and that's about the time when the man 462 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: stepped and I think it says maybe he said and 463 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: then he says, when you're spoiling for a bike, great 464 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: performance from Melmann. 465 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 3: Anger, when you're spoiling for a bike. 466 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: Tak this and put your stomach right. That's good stopped 467 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: the rumbles, know what I mean, So the rest of them, Yeah, 468 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: the rest of it, I look, to be honest, the 469 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: drum sound in that still sounds awesome like the bases, 470 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: you guys, it's actually it gets better with every listener. 471 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 7: All Russell is a good, good drummer. He was by 472 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 7: far the most sort of musically skilled member of the band. 473 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 7: But but Joe's bass playing also, And I think of 474 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 7: Joe as being this goose character as how I always sort. 475 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 2: Of thought of it. 476 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 7: I think I don't know quite why, but but yeah, 477 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 7: and and and that was just before we started getting 478 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 7: into recording. We were just sort of finding our feet 479 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 7: with our recording skill because I would produce the stuff 480 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 7: and co produce it with Michael Mouseford going on into 481 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 7: the Traction album and stuff, and so yeah, we were 482 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 7: starting to hone our craft. I think on the Munchose Ad, can. 483 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: You answer me a question, cal So, With the success 484 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: of malspoken word line inside of the Munchose Ad, did 485 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: you take that into having an abundance of plutonic relationships 486 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: reminiscent of my man Mike Plato With that line delivered 487 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: by Michael Morrissey, I think it was Michael Morrissey. It 488 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: sounds like Michael Morrissey. 489 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 7: Warren Thomas was Warren Thomas Thomas former TV one voice 490 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 7: Warren Thomas. 491 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: Yep, well, there we go. But was that was that 492 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: inspired from melm and Inger's performance in Thenchost? 493 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 7: That's that's a very interesting observation. It's not, but it 494 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 7: could well have been. What it's actually inspired from is 495 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 7: do you remember on The Muppet Show when there was 496 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 7: like they would do surgery. 497 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: And veterinarian surgery whatever are you student just putting? 498 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 7: During the end of the segment, the voiceover of the 499 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 7: veterinarians whatever would come in and they would all look 500 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 7: up at the ceiling and sort of like, where's that 501 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 7: voice coming from? Yes, that's where the Warren Thomas having 502 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 7: an abundant the tonic relationships for the mist to my man, 503 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 7: Mike Plato, that idea sort of comes from that, and 504 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 7: we just wanted that lyric, and we wanted to give 505 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 7: Plato her first name, and we decided it will be Mike. 506 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: I was going to say, who's Mike? 507 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: Okay, So now now we're digging deep into supergreo of lyrics. 508 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 4: What I want to know and what I've always wanted 509 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 4: to know ever since my teenage is who were the 510 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 4: Scorpio girls? 511 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: Who were they? 512 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 7: I'm married to one and she's just in the other room, 513 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 7: so I can't say too much about that, but they, 514 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 7: you know it was they all knew each other back 515 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 7: in the day. And yeah, but you know, good people. 516 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, thank you, Carl, thanks for talking to us. 517 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for clearing up some questions around who Goose was. 518 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't Bruce, I was completely wrong there. Really appreciate it. 519 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: And what are you up to at the moment, by 520 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: the way, because I know that you've done a lot 521 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: of work on soundtracks and stuff of lady, are you 522 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: still doing that? Yeah? 523 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: Totally. 524 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 7: So that's my day to day, was doing film music 525 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 7: and TV music and stuff. And then recently, you know, 526 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 7: super Groove is going to be touring next year in 527 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 7: when is that April, and so that's involved lots of 528 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 7: phone calls and zoom meetings and Google documents and you know, 529 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 7: trying to get a nice set list together and get 530 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 7: it all flow and yeah, and that's been really fun. 531 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 7: So a bit of Super Groove stuff as well for 532 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 7: a change. 533 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: Oh, that's exciting. And you guys are Troy Kingey I 534 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: see as well and Kin Kapisi. So has that been 535 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 1: fun to get back with Shay again. You guys had 536 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: an amazing chemistry. It's quite remarkable. Actually we hear your 537 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: two voices working together. They're so different, but they work 538 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: so well together. Still sounds great. 539 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 7: Yeah. No, he has the voice of an angel and 540 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 7: I have the voice of a tiny demon. 541 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 542 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 7: No, it has been great. It's always wonderful working with Shay. 543 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 7: And it's funny when you get on stage together or 544 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 7: in the practice room because just that muscle memory kicks 545 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 7: and of what you did show after show, tour after tour, 546 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 7: and yeah, as long as the muscles are actually still functioning, 547 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 7: then the muscle memory serves quite well. 548 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. But also there's a magic there and you will 549 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: understand all about that as a musician, but you can 550 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: hear it as a list. Now, there's a magic there 551 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: and either there's either a magic or there's not a magic, 552 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: and there's definitely a magic going on there. 553 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 7: Oh, that's awesome. Our cheer as well. It all started 554 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 7: with the manchos. 555 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: You amazing, Carl Stephen, thank you so much. That really 556 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,239 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Good on you so good. Oh, that's very good. Well, 557 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: it's good to clear that up, wasn't it. Yeah? 558 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: I didn't know they made their first kind of major release, 559 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: was there. 560 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 5: I presumed that that super Groove had released an album 561 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 5: and then that agency said come and right, come and 562 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 5: sing the song. 563 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, because your high profile. But not the other way around. 564 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: But you know the annoying thing that agency will be 565 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: claiming that the success of super Groove was based on them. 566 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an agency out there that claimed they started 567 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: the acc. 568 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: Wow, this is the thing. Agency agencies will claim a 569 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: lot of. 570 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: Stuff, totally, totally. 571 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 5: I forgot to ask them the question to that where 572 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 5: they got a lot of shit for doing it, But 573 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 5: since they didn't really have a profile, they wouldn't have 574 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 5: because my assumption was that they, like I said, they 575 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 5: had a big song and then they did this and 576 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 5: the other artists would have gone fucking sellouts just because 577 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 5: they were jealous. All that's what happens jazz. And also 578 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 5: this happens every year in New Zealand. Ad agencies every 579 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 5: year of radio station will get sent a song written 580 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 5: for a client. Good example of Sweety Boy, you know, 581 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 5: the Mountain Dew one and they go, can you edit 582 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 5: to your playlist? 583 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: We want it to go to number one? 584 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: No? 585 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 6: Like? 586 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: Why not? Like because it's an ad and they're like, 587 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: every year every year an agency goes, we'll write this song, 588 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: they'll add it to the playlist. It'll go number one. 589 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: It'd be great, we'll get an excess award. Yeah. 590 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: Every year, every year they come and haven't got the song? 591 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: Do you reckon? You could edit to the playlist? No, 592 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: fuck off? Every year. It's so funny you can predict 593 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: it will be incoming, like, here's the brief that song 594 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: can be playing on the radio. 595 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: That's good to know. As well as Supergroove with reforming, 596 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: and they were incredibly popular. I mean for guys that 597 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: were as young as they were. Cal seven. He talks 598 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: himself down, but he was the creative force behind Super Groove, 599 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm told from p who are involved. And he understood 600 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: the way it all. He wasn't just the voice of 601 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: a devil thing and that he was. 602 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: He's very, very clever, very beastie boys, isn't it. 603 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 604 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: Yeah boys. 605 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: They would have been big fans of from their fifteen 606 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: minutes we just spent with Carl. He's sounds like a 607 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: terrific man as well, really nice guy funny. Yep, no, 608 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: I think at the time. I mean they were huge 609 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: that that album is saying. Traction was absolutely massive. 610 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 5: Time I saw them in London, remembering Taste New Zealand 611 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,479 Speaker 5: was on in London and it was just basically excuse 612 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 5: for a bunch of keys to get together and behave terribly. 613 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: They played over there. 614 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 5: That would would have been in kind of I don't know, 615 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 5: early early two thousands, two thousand and two maybe, and 616 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 5: they it was loose. It was loose as a ghost. 617 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 5: They were on tour over in England, just running a mark. 618 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: They were working for ghosts. Their live shows had so 619 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: much I mean they had about a million people on stage, 620 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: so much going on, all of them, great musicians, full horns, 621 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: the full works, and as a result, the gags are 622 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: massive amounts of ennery. 623 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was caught, That's where it was. 624 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: It was caught. 625 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 2: And yeah we watched. 626 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: Supergroup, Yeah great Underground Station. 627 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 4: I don't I don't mean to bring the mood down. 628 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 4: I didn't want to say this when Carl was still 629 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: on the phone because I didn't want to question as 630 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 4: artistic integrity. But I couldn't help. But note that near 631 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 4: the end of that song one of my pet hates, 632 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 4: they've rhymed the same word with the same word. Oh really, 633 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 4: so they've got Damnco's taste real mean and then it's 634 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, So they've rhyned mean with mean, 635 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 4: which I hate. 636 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: What a professional though, like he could get delivered some 637 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: other people's lyrics and deliver them as well as they did. Like, 638 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: it's quite impressive considering they weren't. They weren't lyrics that 639 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: came naturally to him. It's quite impressive that it's highly 640 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: I think it went on. I think they played that 641 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: for about three or four years. The fact that I 642 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: know all of the words to it, it means I 643 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: was watching way too much TV, which is possibly true. 644 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 2: Well everyone did. There was only one channel, yeah so, 645 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: and there was there was nothing else much to do that, and. 646 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: The big taste always gets through. The big taste always 647 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: gets to what about the bow peers head with Jayla 648 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: guyer Vince. 649 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 4: And along came there, Oh yeah, snow, welcome Jaylor Guy 650 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 4: sing that he as the truck driver as the ear 651 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 4: starts coming out of the tire. Interesting and then it 652 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 4: burbled a bit, oh no, not the bubbly bit, and 653 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 4: then it wabbled a bit oh no, no. 654 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: No, and then here comes the thing that's the bursty thing, 655 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: and then it was that was really annoying that song 656 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: that wasn't so what about He's your Mobile man? That 657 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: there was sung by someone that I spoke to recently? 658 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: What about a lineman for the county? That one which 659 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: is what? 660 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: What was that for? For Telecom? 661 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 4: For the. 662 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: I'm into still around? 663 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 664 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: Man, if they brought that song out again, I reckon, 665 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: I go great guns. 666 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: Still sounds good? That still sounds good melded to another performance. 667 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 5: I didn't know that was Melmoaninger. And because I hadn't 668 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 5: when you bought up this ad, I haven't seen the ad. 669 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 5: It's obviously on YouTube and Melmourninger's delivering that line. If 670 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 5: you played that to me a thousand times, I wouldn't. 671 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: Have guessed it that someone obviously had a wide on 672 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: for league. 673 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, massively. 674 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to. 675 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: It would have been classic. 676 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 5: Agency would have been a craft drink who wanted to 677 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 5: meet Melmanoger, a huge fant just get him over. 678 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: How much they paid him for that? Probably like one 679 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: hundred thousand if. 680 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 5: He asked Melmaninger he is. He's the coach of the 681 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 5: Aussie rugby league team. So any if we play Australia 682 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 5: in this Pacific Nation's final, let's request to talk to 683 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 5: Melmoanninger and play him that ad and he's great new 684 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,239 Speaker 5: ye and asking him before yeah, and ask him can 685 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 5: you remember recording this ad? 686 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: And he might go yeah or no, no. 687 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: I have no mea and he probably never He probably 688 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: never saw it if I was in New Zealand. 689 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 5: Yeah that's true, right, Okay, good guys, stuff. So were 690 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 5: you going to address the hugging from behind him that 691 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 5: kept on Monday? 692 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: Should we do that? 693 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 7: Yeah? 694 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, there gives you plenty of time to put that 695 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 2: in the bank for the weekend. 696 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: Excuse me, I can still feel it, all right? 697 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: Okay, this looks like you just did a come. 698 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: I was aroused.