1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at be. 3 00:00:12,693 --> 00:00:15,413 Speaker 2: Time to catch up with Francisca Radken, our film reviewer, 4 00:00:15,613 --> 00:00:17,533 Speaker 2: with her PEX for this week in morning. 5 00:00:18,173 --> 00:00:18,733 Speaker 3: Good morning. 6 00:00:18,933 --> 00:00:20,853 Speaker 2: Okay, we've got a bit of a period drama to 7 00:00:20,933 --> 00:00:22,453 Speaker 2: begin with things this morning, So day to have a 8 00:00:22,533 --> 00:00:24,013 Speaker 2: listen to Firebrand. 9 00:00:26,093 --> 00:00:29,573 Speaker 4: There once was a queen by the name of Catherine Parr. 10 00:00:30,373 --> 00:00:33,733 Speaker 4: She was the sixth wife of the vengeful king Henry 11 00:00:33,773 --> 00:00:38,253 Speaker 4: the Eighth. The five wives who came before her all 12 00:00:38,293 --> 00:00:43,933 Speaker 4: met untimely ends, but Catherine's fate was to change the 13 00:00:44,013 --> 00:00:49,653 Speaker 4: kingdom forever. 14 00:00:50,413 --> 00:00:52,533 Speaker 3: It sounds like it's been a while since we've been 15 00:00:52,533 --> 00:00:54,533 Speaker 3: able to sort of get our teeth into a really 16 00:00:54,653 --> 00:00:55,853 Speaker 3: good period drama. 17 00:00:56,053 --> 00:00:56,253 Speaker 1: Yeah. 18 00:00:57,133 --> 00:01:00,173 Speaker 3: I was really excited about this film. You may have 19 00:01:00,333 --> 00:01:03,053 Speaker 3: caught it when it screened at the New Zealand and 20 00:01:03,093 --> 00:01:05,253 Speaker 3: Gentle Bilisi of last year. It has now come back 21 00:01:05,293 --> 00:01:08,493 Speaker 3: for general release and Firebrand has it all. It's got 22 00:01:08,533 --> 00:01:12,813 Speaker 3: the gorgeous costumes, the fabulous locations, sort of the lush 23 00:01:12,973 --> 00:01:17,213 Speaker 3: art direction, the manipulation and desire for power and survival. 24 00:01:17,253 --> 00:01:21,053 Speaker 3: It's got a bloated and oozing quite literally Jude Law 25 00:01:21,213 --> 00:01:24,213 Speaker 3: as King Henry the Eighth. He's not doing so well 26 00:01:24,253 --> 00:01:26,093 Speaker 3: at this point when we meet him. Of course, he's 27 00:01:26,093 --> 00:01:30,493 Speaker 3: got these terrible infections in his legs and things. Alyssia 28 00:01:30,573 --> 00:01:36,053 Speaker 3: the Canada she stars as Catherine Parr, his final queen 29 00:01:36,173 --> 00:01:40,453 Speaker 3: who survived him, and she is absolutely fantastic and nuanced 30 00:01:40,733 --> 00:01:42,853 Speaker 3: as a woman who is well aware of her place 31 00:01:43,133 --> 00:01:46,053 Speaker 3: within the court and that her husband could chop her 32 00:01:46,053 --> 00:01:49,013 Speaker 3: head off at any moment, but still also has her 33 00:01:49,053 --> 00:01:55,213 Speaker 3: own ambitions and religious beliefs that she tries to nurture 34 00:01:55,253 --> 00:01:58,173 Speaker 3: and develop. This film takes history and it gives it 35 00:01:58,293 --> 00:02:02,093 Speaker 3: a feminist in fictional edge. So you'll watch it and 36 00:02:02,093 --> 00:02:04,293 Speaker 3: you'll go, oh, Okay, this is fantastic. I know this story, 37 00:02:04,373 --> 00:02:06,693 Speaker 3: and then it just has these lovely little twists to it. 38 00:02:07,013 --> 00:02:11,133 Speaker 3: And I love it when filmmakers do this. It's a 39 00:02:11,173 --> 00:02:14,053 Speaker 3: little bit like that wonderful TV show for All Mankind 40 00:02:14,133 --> 00:02:16,493 Speaker 3: about NASA. You know, you just started off thinking you 41 00:02:16,533 --> 00:02:18,613 Speaker 3: were going to watch something historical and it just turns 42 00:02:18,613 --> 00:02:21,773 Speaker 3: on it HEAs And it's wonderful because it just adds 43 00:02:21,813 --> 00:02:26,013 Speaker 3: a bit of unpredictability to a period drama. It is 44 00:02:26,133 --> 00:02:28,253 Speaker 3: very clever. I think it could have even pushed things 45 00:02:28,253 --> 00:02:33,693 Speaker 3: a little bit further. Jude Law, however, is absolutely fabulous. 46 00:02:33,733 --> 00:02:36,493 Speaker 3: He steals every scene he is in. He is not 47 00:02:36,693 --> 00:02:41,733 Speaker 3: holding back in this role as this very difficult man, 48 00:02:42,373 --> 00:02:48,413 Speaker 3: and he embraces him physically, kind of emotionally everything. And 49 00:02:48,693 --> 00:02:51,253 Speaker 3: Elizabeth Kanda, as I mentioned, does this excellent job of 50 00:02:51,293 --> 00:02:54,213 Speaker 3: balancing the dutiful wife with her and ambitions. Look, there's 51 00:02:54,253 --> 00:02:59,213 Speaker 3: plenty of political swagger and royal pandering Henry's courts. You know, 52 00:02:59,253 --> 00:03:05,293 Speaker 3: everybody is kept on their toes. They're aware of that 53 00:03:05,493 --> 00:03:10,213 Speaker 3: they're at the moon see of the king's whims. It's wonderful. 54 00:03:10,253 --> 00:03:12,493 Speaker 3: I think if you like period dramas, you like immersing 55 00:03:12,493 --> 00:03:17,213 Speaker 3: yourselves in a different time, but you don't mind a 56 00:03:17,253 --> 00:03:20,013 Speaker 3: little bit of a twist, and that's a factual film. 57 00:03:20,733 --> 00:03:21,933 Speaker 3: I think you'll really enjoy this. 58 00:03:22,493 --> 00:03:26,013 Speaker 2: It's great anytime you can describe an actor as bloated 59 00:03:26,053 --> 00:03:30,013 Speaker 2: and oozing, I'm into it. Yeah, I think that's yeah. 60 00:03:30,533 --> 00:03:32,773 Speaker 3: Here's so, here's what they did. Just here's a little tip. 61 00:03:33,333 --> 00:03:35,253 Speaker 3: When they were shooting the scenes and there were all 62 00:03:35,253 --> 00:03:37,933 Speaker 3: these people in his parlor and they have to unwrap 63 00:03:38,013 --> 00:03:40,053 Speaker 3: his legs to look at the injuries and put more 64 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:43,773 Speaker 3: maggots on and things. Apparently the filmmaker has got someone 65 00:03:43,853 --> 00:03:49,493 Speaker 3: to create a smell that replicas decaying fleas and they 66 00:03:49,693 --> 00:03:55,053 Speaker 3: put in the room. I heard, and they put that 67 00:03:55,173 --> 00:03:57,173 Speaker 3: in the room when they were shooting the scenes. And 68 00:03:57,213 --> 00:04:01,053 Speaker 3: actually everybody does react so brilliantly to it. But yeah, 69 00:04:01,093 --> 00:04:02,413 Speaker 3: so there we go filmmaking for you. 70 00:04:02,653 --> 00:04:05,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic. Okay, that's firebrand. Yeah, no, wonder you do 71 00:04:06,053 --> 00:04:09,333 Speaker 2: with that? Next up, the film screening on Netflix at 72 00:04:09,333 --> 00:04:12,493 Speaker 2: the moment. This is the Electric State to bar Rebellion. 73 00:04:12,653 --> 00:04:18,773 Speaker 4: It was ugly when the robots deviated from their assigned tash. 74 00:04:19,133 --> 00:04:24,133 Speaker 4: We banished them. 75 00:04:22,013 --> 00:04:23,293 Speaker 3: To the Electric State. 76 00:04:25,053 --> 00:04:28,493 Speaker 2: Babam Chris Pratt and Millie Bobby Brown tell us about 77 00:04:28,493 --> 00:04:29,693 Speaker 2: the Electric spas. 78 00:04:30,133 --> 00:04:33,373 Speaker 3: And Stanley Tucci and Woody Harrelson and Brian Cox and 79 00:04:33,373 --> 00:04:36,093 Speaker 3: Holly Hunter and Jason Alexander, just a few names to 80 00:04:36,093 --> 00:04:38,813 Speaker 3: throw out there. Look, what I heard about this film 81 00:04:38,893 --> 00:04:41,653 Speaker 3: is that it has this incredible cast, which it does, 82 00:04:41,933 --> 00:04:44,733 Speaker 3: and it's possibly one of the most expensive movies ever made. 83 00:04:44,773 --> 00:04:47,493 Speaker 3: So the rumor is they spend three hundred and twenty 84 00:04:47,573 --> 00:04:50,373 Speaker 3: million US on this film. This is this is Netflix, 85 00:04:50,453 --> 00:04:53,413 Speaker 3: This is Netflix. Right. They won't confirm the figure. But 86 00:04:53,493 --> 00:04:55,573 Speaker 3: if it is true, it is definitely the most expensive 87 00:04:55,693 --> 00:04:59,573 Speaker 3: stream streaming film ever made. And you know what turned 88 00:04:59,573 --> 00:05:04,813 Speaker 3: in twenty million uths. O it's good light escapism. 89 00:05:05,093 --> 00:05:05,973 Speaker 1: That's not great. 90 00:05:07,653 --> 00:05:10,493 Speaker 3: Yeah, it starts off with a hussin raw and I 91 00:05:10,573 --> 00:05:14,373 Speaker 3: thought this is going to be fantastic. There's kind of 92 00:05:14,413 --> 00:05:17,293 Speaker 3: the film sort of sets us up as you heard there. 93 00:05:17,293 --> 00:05:19,573 Speaker 3: It sort of sets the story, sets up that we're 94 00:05:19,573 --> 00:05:22,213 Speaker 3: in the nineteen nineties, there's a war with robots, robots 95 00:05:22,213 --> 00:05:28,653 Speaker 3: are outlawed, and there's a lot of really clever use 96 00:05:28,693 --> 00:05:32,773 Speaker 3: of historical footage, some very funny moments, and I was going, 97 00:05:32,813 --> 00:05:34,933 Speaker 3: this is going to be such a great action comedy. 98 00:05:34,973 --> 00:05:37,093 Speaker 3: They've got the balance right. And then as the film 99 00:05:37,173 --> 00:05:39,453 Speaker 3: kind of progresses, it sloths and it becomes a little 100 00:05:39,453 --> 00:05:43,093 Speaker 3: bit plotty, and the stalogue isn't maybe as sharp as 101 00:05:43,093 --> 00:05:44,773 Speaker 3: it should be, and then it packs up again at 102 00:05:44,773 --> 00:05:47,213 Speaker 3: the end for a lovely kind of epic ending. So 103 00:05:47,293 --> 00:05:49,213 Speaker 3: I did feel that they had something here, but it 104 00:05:49,373 --> 00:05:51,613 Speaker 3: sort of just drifted into a little bit of a 105 00:05:51,653 --> 00:05:54,453 Speaker 3: predictable sci fi film. So Melli Bubby Brown, she plays 106 00:05:54,493 --> 00:05:57,853 Speaker 3: this character. She believes the consciousness of her presumed dead 107 00:05:57,973 --> 00:06:00,333 Speaker 3: brother is in a robot that comes to find her, 108 00:06:00,613 --> 00:06:02,293 Speaker 3: and she goes off in search of her brother, and 109 00:06:02,333 --> 00:06:04,733 Speaker 3: she ends up in this place called the Exclusion Zone, 110 00:06:05,053 --> 00:06:07,493 Speaker 3: and she's helped by this scavenger outlaw Chris Pratt, who 111 00:06:07,573 --> 00:06:09,933 Speaker 3: actually just acts like he has warped out of Galians 112 00:06:09,933 --> 00:06:12,693 Speaker 3: of the Galaxy and onto the set. Apparently got twenty 113 00:06:12,733 --> 00:06:15,893 Speaker 3: million for that, so good on her. It's made by 114 00:06:15,893 --> 00:06:19,053 Speaker 3: Anthony and Joe Russo, who responsible for films like in 115 00:06:19,133 --> 00:06:21,533 Speaker 3: Phillypy Wore an Endgame, they did four Avengers films. They 116 00:06:21,613 --> 00:06:25,773 Speaker 3: know what they're doing. And the robots are fantastic. Look 117 00:06:25,893 --> 00:06:30,653 Speaker 3: the they're impressive. The action and the visuals are really 118 00:06:30,693 --> 00:06:32,973 Speaker 3: really good. And as I say, it sort of starts 119 00:06:32,973 --> 00:06:35,013 Speaker 3: well and ends well, it just sort of it was 120 00:06:35,053 --> 00:06:37,613 Speaker 3: a bit of a lull middle. It's a shame. 121 00:06:37,973 --> 00:06:41,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah it's fair enough. But yeah, I'm stunned 122 00:06:41,293 --> 00:06:44,133 Speaker 2: that Netflix is even spending that much on films at 123 00:06:44,173 --> 00:06:44,413 Speaker 2: the moment. 124 00:06:44,773 --> 00:06:47,733 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, right, here's the thing. Everyone just 125 00:06:47,733 --> 00:06:50,133 Speaker 3: sits and watches streaming, so it's really easy to capture 126 00:06:50,133 --> 00:06:52,813 Speaker 3: your audience. You don't need to make the go to 127 00:06:52,853 --> 00:06:55,053 Speaker 3: a cinema and pay for it. So that I don't 128 00:06:55,053 --> 00:06:56,853 Speaker 3: think they really they're not. I think they want to 129 00:06:56,853 --> 00:06:59,613 Speaker 3: make their money bag, but they're not hugely fuss. They 130 00:06:59,653 --> 00:07:01,373 Speaker 3: know that people will watch it, and apparently it is 131 00:07:01,373 --> 00:07:02,573 Speaker 3: already sitting at number one and there. 132 00:07:02,653 --> 00:07:06,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well that's the Electric State streaming on Netflix. 133 00:07:06,213 --> 00:07:09,293 Speaker 2: The and Francesca's first film, the one that is showing 134 00:07:09,293 --> 00:07:11,893 Speaker 2: in cinemas is Firebrand. Will put all of the details 135 00:07:11,893 --> 00:07:13,573 Speaker 2: for those films up on the news talks. He'd be 136 00:07:13,653 --> 00:07:15,493 Speaker 2: website now after ten o'clock we're going to tell you 137 00:07:15,533 --> 00:07:18,533 Speaker 2: about this other film. It is the first time that 138 00:07:18,653 --> 00:07:23,013 Speaker 2: Lucy Lawless has switched roles in making something from actor 139 00:07:23,413 --> 00:07:27,773 Speaker 2: to director. She's made this amazing new documentary about Kiwi 140 00:07:27,893 --> 00:07:31,573 Speaker 2: camera woman Margaret Moth. Now that name may or may 141 00:07:31,613 --> 00:07:33,813 Speaker 2: not be familiar to you, it's familiar to me. We 142 00:07:33,893 --> 00:07:35,453 Speaker 2: learned all about her when I was studying to become 143 00:07:35,453 --> 00:07:38,373 Speaker 2: a journalist, because she's kind of a bona fide legend 144 00:07:38,453 --> 00:07:42,093 Speaker 2: in the New Zealand news business. But Margaret Moth was 145 00:07:42,133 --> 00:07:45,253 Speaker 2: a camera woman in the nineties, started in New Zealand, 146 00:07:45,493 --> 00:07:47,573 Speaker 2: went to the US, was working in the US, and 147 00:07:47,733 --> 00:07:49,613 Speaker 2: ended up getting a job as a camera woman for 148 00:07:49,733 --> 00:07:53,613 Speaker 2: CNN working in war zones around the world, but when 149 00:07:53,653 --> 00:07:57,453 Speaker 2: she was in Bosnia shooting and filming in Sarajevo during 150 00:07:57,493 --> 00:07:59,893 Speaker 2: the war, Margaret Moth had been there for a couple 151 00:07:59,893 --> 00:08:02,973 Speaker 2: of weeks when she was shot in the face by 152 00:08:03,013 --> 00:08:06,133 Speaker 2: a sniper. Now, it was pretty touch and go after 153 00:08:06,173 --> 00:08:09,133 Speaker 2: she was shot. Remarkably though she managed to survive. She 154 00:08:09,213 --> 00:08:11,853 Speaker 2: was evacuated from suday Ovo. She went through all sorts 155 00:08:11,853 --> 00:08:14,493 Speaker 2: of surgeries as she tried to recover, and she had 156 00:08:14,493 --> 00:08:17,613 Speaker 2: this incredible line once she was able to speak again, 157 00:08:17,773 --> 00:08:20,453 Speaker 2: in that she said she wanted to return to Sadayovo, 158 00:08:20,573 --> 00:08:22,933 Speaker 2: she wanted to work again as a camera woman, and 159 00:08:23,013 --> 00:08:26,573 Speaker 2: she had to return to Bosnia so she could collect 160 00:08:26,613 --> 00:08:30,613 Speaker 2: her teeth. I think that one little instant tells you 161 00:08:30,693 --> 00:08:32,773 Speaker 2: a lot about the woman. But she was a complex 162 00:08:32,813 --> 00:08:35,933 Speaker 2: woman and Lucy Lawless has told her story in an 163 00:08:35,973 --> 00:08:38,573 Speaker 2: incredible way. So Lucy Lawless with us right after the 164 00:08:38,613 --> 00:08:40,653 Speaker 2: ten o'clock news this morning. 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