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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show Podcast number one, nine to two for

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Speaker 1: The big issues, the big trends and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: Matty's and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk SEDB.

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Speaker 3: News Talks ed be Welcome into the show. It is

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Speaker 3: seven pass one. Hope you're having a good Wednesday afternoon. Gheta,

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Speaker 3: Matt get A, Tyler, get A, everyone.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the topic we're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: today at the one o'clock hour is going to rile

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Speaker 2: people up a little bit. And that's the whole point, really,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. Because there's two schools of thought on celebrity news.

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Speaker 2: One is we shouldn't hear it at all, and the

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Speaker 2: other one is let's saturate the airways twenty four to

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Speaker 2: seven with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, Abs.

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Speaker 2: You may or may not have heard that Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: has got engaged to Travis Cowsey, her tight end boyfriend

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Speaker 2: from the Kansas City Chiefs, great player.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: And the reason why we're doing this topic today because

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Speaker 2: I was listening to Mike Cosking this morning and in

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Speaker 2: all the news bulletins it was in twice yes, and

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Speaker 2: I thought Taylor Swift getting married is big enough news

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand that it's in both the news part

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Speaker 3: It was all very exciting a lot of people talking

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Speaker 3: about it this morning. Out there in the office as well.

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Speaker 3: Everybody was talking about Travis Cawsey and Taylor Swift's engagement,

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Speaker 3: Why do you reckon? Isn't it nice? Is it going

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But do you care? Is the coverage too much or

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Speaker 2: is it too little? Where do you sit on celebrity

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Speaker 2: news weight one hundred and eighty ten eighty Personally, I

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Speaker 2: wish I didn't care, and so when I heard that it

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Speaker 2: was like, Oh, that's overkill. But then I found myself

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Speaker 2: on the computer going oh yeah and reading about it.

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Speaker 2: So if I was a would I be a better

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you've been perfectly honest about it. There'll

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Speaker 3: be many, many, thousands and millions of people and billions

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Speaker 3: of people around the world that would have clicked on

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Speaker 3: those particularly headlines. But here's alway montage of the excitement

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Speaker 3: on ZB this morning.

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Speaker 2: Zebby and we have some breaking news this morning. Taylor

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Speaker 2: Swift is engaged. Yes, and in less than twenty minutes

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Speaker 2: they've had one point eight million likes on their Instagram posts.

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Speaker 2: So the world is celebrating Taylor Swift this morning.

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Speaker 5: It's a love story. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey have

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Speaker 5: announced their engagement the pop superstar in Kansas City, chiefs Titian.

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Speaker 5: She had a social media post this morning of Kelsey's proposal,

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Speaker 5: and the news follow Swift's podcast debut on Calsy's podcast

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Speaker 5: earlier this month, where the couple shared their love for

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Speaker 6: He's just a vibe booster in everyone's life that he's in.

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Speaker 7: He's like a human exclamation point.

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Speaker 8: It finally joy for Taylor Swift fan and Women's second

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Speaker 8: Seed eagist Fiontech at the US Tennis Open in New

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Speaker 9: Just happy for her because she deserves the best.

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Speaker 10: Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey are engaged, and a post

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Speaker 10: to Instagram, Taylor wrote, your English teacher and you, a

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Speaker 10: Helen would like to play Taylor Swift love songs all morning.

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Speaker 10: She has the support of management, upper management, middle management,

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Speaker 2: about Tata see later to that text. Who cares? Okay,

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Speaker 2: couldn't care less about this? What a load of bs? Now.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, if that's the case, then why does

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Speaker 2: it make so much box office? If so many people

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Speaker 2: do not care about Taylor Swift? Why is it that

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Speaker 2: when it's put on the hero togetst the most amount

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Speaker 3: Yeah, boosted right to the top and it had wen't

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Speaker 2: Mention it on the news against the biggest reaction. So

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Speaker 2: if we don't care, are we just saying that we

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Speaker 2: don't care but we don't care because we want to

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Speaker 2: we've got four thousand people texting through to say that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wait, hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've been

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Speaker 3: we'd love to hear from you as well. Do you

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Speaker 2: Texas says can we please talk about Butter Prices. Who

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Speaker 2: cares about Taylor Swift? I think the only thing more

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Speaker 2: vacuous than Taylor Swift is probably talking about Butter Prices.

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Speaker 3: Nicely said.

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Speaker 2: In terms of eraising your brain on dred percent, this

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Speaker 2: Texas says the only news I care about is celebrity news.

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Speaker 2: Well this is this is a pushing back. Okay, it's

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Speaker 2: all the same stuff. Otherwise, inflation, some political scandal that

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Speaker 2: no one will care about in tuesdays, it's all bs.

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Speaker 2: At least Swift and Travis getting married is positive, more

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Speaker 3: All right, yeah, nicely said. I wait, hundred the phones

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Speaker 2: Do you? And sexasays you tweets are a disappointment. Why

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Speaker 2: are you giving that little fat bustard airtime? Who's the

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Speaker 3: It can't be Travis. He's in great, He's in great,

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Speaker 3: he's a solid lead. I'll tell you what, text bet

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Speaker 3: he's in better condition than you are. Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Say that to Travis Kelsey's face.

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Speaker 2: Oh, hang on a minute, I know who's talking about.

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Speaker 3: Is he talking about me.

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Speaker 2: He's still about we're talking to after three. Oh right,

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Speaker 2: it's another topic. He's not just going to say Travis Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: You can say a lot about him, but one thing

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Speaker 2: is he said good.

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Speaker 3: He's not a fair bastard.

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Speaker 2: One percent.

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Speaker 3: Stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the big stories, the big issues, the big trends

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Speaker 1: and everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons

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Speaker 1: u's talk, sa'd.

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Speaker 2: Be very good.

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Speaker 3: Afternoons it is a quarter past one and we're talking

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Speaker 3: about the reaction to the engagement used between Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: The six says, I personally don't care about mostly by news,

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Speaker 2: but I don't begrudge those who do. With so much

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Speaker 2: negativity and current events in our lives these days, anything

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Speaker 2: be a bad thing. Yeah. I mean that's the other question.

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Speaker 2: Why do people get so angry that it's in the news.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the text machine is smoking, it's absolutely

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Speaker 2: I've never seen people so angry. That people are actually

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Speaker 2: it's in the news too much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's some inception level anger.

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Speaker 2: The fact, we're even mentioning that maybe Taylor Swift is

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Speaker 2: overexposed and potentially might not be newsworthy. It is enough

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Speaker 2: to make some people spit fire. Lou, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 12: Hey, how's it going. Well, it's certainly made the news

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Speaker 13: I love it.

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Speaker 12: It was not very much appreciated at that time.

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Speaker 13: In the morning.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Well, she's a huge wist. She's got all the albums.

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Speaker 12: I think Taylor's actually a marketing queen.

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Speaker 12: When she puts it one album, she does it with

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Speaker 12: He gets a time for sales.

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Speaker 2: So do you cynically think that maybe she's announcing this

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Speaker 13: Coming out, Well, make sure Wonder doesn't.

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Speaker 2: No, you go, sorry, you go.

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Speaker 12: Lu I was gonna say, hey, if it brightens up

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, Now, when your daughter rang up at five

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Speaker 12: We went kind of okay, it's five thirty in the morning, sweetheart,

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Speaker 12: that this isn't a important but she was rather excited.

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Speaker 2: Yet It's lovely that she you know, you have that

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Speaker 12: If you don't mind me asking, she's actually turning twenty

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Speaker 12: one this week. She's in Camp America.

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Speaker 3: Oh cool?

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Speaker 2: How good?

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Speaker 12: Yeah? She actually went to Taylor Swift's concert in Melbourne

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Speaker 12: from New Zealand because she'd been talking to a girl

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Speaker 3: How cool her own? I mean, that must have been that. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you've got a good daughter there. That must have been

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Speaker 12: Lou Oh, look, she was just spinning, absolutely spinning. She

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Speaker 12: loves Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and for you Lou obviously got the a

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Speaker 3: the morning. But do you do you click on the headlines?

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. So we're talking about the

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Speaker 2: Is that the complete vacuumization? And I'm not sure if

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it?

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Speaker 18: So?

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Speaker 3: It's escapism, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: You discussed me? Who cares? Literally, no one cares? Is

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Speaker 2: The thing is people do care because media organizations don't

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Speaker 2: Out there, Matthew, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 9: Oh good a, what a great topic. Great topic, divisive,

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Speaker 9: It's better than what we're listening to in Russia and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Cool, Matthew nicely said, I one hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 3: Well, I'd watch it. I'd watch it right. Keep me

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy, and we are talking about

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Speaker 3: the question and put to you is if you are

443
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Speaker 3: clicking on these headlines and reading this news and certainly

444
00:20:21,293 --> 00:20:25,133
Speaker 3: I have, and Matt you have. Why what is the

445
00:20:25,653 --> 00:20:28,013
Speaker 3: joy that you get out from reading these celebrity.

446
00:20:27,573 --> 00:20:32,413
Speaker 2: News Yeah, and the fat Trap, the fat Flap, the

447
00:20:32,453 --> 00:20:35,653
Speaker 2: Big Squeeze, the Way to Escape. They're just some suggestions

448
00:20:35,693 --> 00:20:39,013
Speaker 2: that are coming through very good for my reality show

449
00:20:39,013 --> 00:20:41,893
Speaker 2: with the Small Door. The six says fifty percent of

450
00:20:41,933 --> 00:20:45,613
Speaker 2: a Ti roans. That's hard Wood say, don't have enough

451
00:20:45,653 --> 00:20:48,853
Speaker 2: to eat? And you're talking, Tyler Swift, pathetic. Fifty percent

452
00:20:48,893 --> 00:20:51,173
Speaker 2: of us don't have enough to eat. I think obesity

453
00:20:51,213 --> 00:20:55,013
Speaker 2: is a bigger problem in our country than starvation. Yeah,

454
00:20:55,013 --> 00:20:57,293
Speaker 2: that's a big call to say fifty percent of people

455
00:20:57,333 --> 00:20:58,813
Speaker 2: in New Zealand don't have enough to eat.

456
00:20:58,853 --> 00:21:00,253
Speaker 3: It's not what I see out on the streets.

457
00:21:00,253 --> 00:21:02,493
Speaker 2: It's people walking around believing that kind of stuff. That

458
00:21:02,573 --> 00:21:05,573
Speaker 2: must make you a very unhappy person. If you think

459
00:21:05,613 --> 00:21:08,173
Speaker 2: that half of New Zealand is starving.

460
00:21:07,853 --> 00:21:09,213
Speaker 3: They must have seeing that on TikTok.

461
00:21:09,413 --> 00:21:11,373
Speaker 2: I mean, have a look out the window. Yeah, I

462
00:21:12,533 --> 00:21:13,773
Speaker 2: don't think half of people starving.

463
00:21:13,893 --> 00:21:16,133
Speaker 3: I don't know where they're Fifty percent are oh eight,

464
00:21:16,133 --> 00:21:19,013
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

465
00:21:19,613 --> 00:21:21,933
Speaker 3: And if you think it's all a load of rubbish

466
00:21:21,973 --> 00:21:23,613
Speaker 3: and you can't understand it. We're keen to hear from

467
00:21:23,653 --> 00:21:24,053
Speaker 3: you as well.

468
00:21:24,093 --> 00:21:26,893
Speaker 2: This Texas says Tator Swift is an Illuminati puppet. It's

469
00:21:27,013 --> 00:21:30,373
Speaker 2: all designed to distract and divert attention. Energy flows where

470
00:21:30,373 --> 00:21:34,813
Speaker 2: attention goes. Okay, I mean, is she an Illuminati palante?

471
00:21:34,853 --> 00:21:37,333
Speaker 3: That was the first I heard of it. I mean,

472
00:21:37,373 --> 00:21:40,293
Speaker 3: look the amount of anchor that's coming through on the

473
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Speaker 3: text machine for someone like Taylor Swift. I mean, it's

474
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Speaker 3: I don't get it. I don't get the fact that

475
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Speaker 3: people are so angry that someone like Taylor Swift and

476
00:21:50,173 --> 00:21:53,053
Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey have got engaged and people are clearly reading

477
00:21:53,093 --> 00:21:57,093
Speaker 3: these stories. Nine to ninety two is the text number

478
00:21:57,133 --> 00:21:57,533
Speaker 3: coming through.

479
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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's so many texts coming through that it's

480
00:22:00,173 --> 00:22:04,893
Speaker 2: hard to actually read them. I stopped reading the news

481
00:22:04,893 --> 00:22:10,373
Speaker 2: this morning because of this bloody story. Unfortunately, I bet

482
00:22:10,413 --> 00:22:12,973
Speaker 2: I won't hear my text read out because of my opinion.

483
00:22:13,213 --> 00:22:15,373
Speaker 3: Okay, well there you go. You did read it out, So.

484
00:22:15,653 --> 00:22:18,373
Speaker 2: See you missed that conspiracy theory proved wrong.

485
00:22:18,493 --> 00:22:20,653
Speaker 3: Take that text and I'm going to say, I mean,

486
00:22:20,693 --> 00:22:24,453
Speaker 3: just in celebrity news in general, I have a great

487
00:22:24,493 --> 00:22:27,453
Speaker 3: dislike for me, Meghan Markle, and to a lesser extent, Harry.

488
00:22:27,533 --> 00:22:30,613
Speaker 3: But every time one of those stories pops up, without

489
00:22:30,613 --> 00:22:32,973
Speaker 3: a doubt, I'll be the first to click on those stories.

490
00:22:33,013 --> 00:22:35,333
Speaker 3: And I'm not the only one that there is that

491
00:22:35,493 --> 00:22:38,532
Speaker 3: part of the love hate relationship. So even people that

492
00:22:38,653 --> 00:22:41,013
Speaker 3: really and clearly there's a lot of anger out there

493
00:22:41,013 --> 00:22:43,853
Speaker 3: for Taylor Swift, those people, more than anyone, would be

494
00:22:43,853 --> 00:22:46,413
Speaker 3: clicking on those headlines because maybe there's a little bit

495
00:22:46,453 --> 00:22:48,773
Speaker 3: of joy that they get from being a bit outraged.

496
00:22:49,333 --> 00:22:51,853
Speaker 2: This text has said all the people that are hating

497
00:22:51,893 --> 00:22:56,573
Speaker 2: on Taylor Swift are maga hard because she fights back

498
00:22:56,573 --> 00:23:00,093
Speaker 2: against Trump. That's why they're texting in their hate. I

499
00:23:00,133 --> 00:23:03,853
Speaker 2: haven't had any single text on that issue that around

500
00:23:03,893 --> 00:23:06,773
Speaker 2: it that they think it's because they're pro Trump, that

501
00:23:06,813 --> 00:23:09,293
Speaker 2: they just think the people text things. I think it's

502
00:23:09,293 --> 00:23:13,253
Speaker 2: too vacuous to even mention her name. Hi, Tyler, and Matt.

503
00:23:13,293 --> 00:23:15,333
Speaker 2: When I heard Ryan say breaking news this morning, I

504
00:23:15,373 --> 00:23:18,293
Speaker 2: thought my prayers had been answered. No more news days

505
00:23:18,333 --> 00:23:25,773
Speaker 2: filled with Trump. Yeah, yeah, but no, I get that one, guys.

506
00:23:26,293 --> 00:23:30,093
Speaker 3: I absolutely adored hearing about Taylor and Travis Calcey. Things

507
00:23:30,093 --> 00:23:33,413
Speaker 3: are incredibly tough for me and many others at the moment,

508
00:23:33,413 --> 00:23:37,093
Speaker 3: and what is wrong with a little bit of escape escapism?

509
00:23:37,413 --> 00:23:40,293
Speaker 3: Anyone who's texting through who says they didn't click on

510
00:23:40,333 --> 00:23:43,533
Speaker 3: the headline is either lying or living under a rock.

511
00:23:44,133 --> 00:23:45,653
Speaker 3: I say good on them, and it's nice to have

512
00:23:45,733 --> 00:23:48,053
Speaker 3: a little bit of nice news every now and again.

513
00:23:49,293 --> 00:23:52,213
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call,

514
00:23:52,333 --> 00:23:54,733
Speaker 3: And we're getting hundreds of hundreds of texts if you

515
00:23:54,733 --> 00:23:56,292
Speaker 3: want to see the text nineteen ninety two.

516
00:23:57,173 --> 00:24:00,173
Speaker 2: Well, actually I've money to because now ninety percent of

517
00:24:00,173 --> 00:24:03,413
Speaker 2: people are texting in names for my show. Idea. Yeah,

518
00:24:03,813 --> 00:24:07,733
Speaker 2: first out the door says this texting you okay eight

519
00:24:07,813 --> 00:24:10,133
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty eighty Oh yeah, And before we were

520
00:24:10,133 --> 00:24:13,173
Speaker 2: going to talk about someone was asking about how how

521
00:24:13,613 --> 00:24:15,773
Speaker 2: wealthy Taylor Swift is.

522
00:24:15,973 --> 00:24:18,973
Speaker 3: Yes, this for this wedding, So yeah, question for you,

523
00:24:19,053 --> 00:24:21,853
Speaker 3: dear listeners, if you think you know how rich Taylor

524
00:24:21,893 --> 00:24:25,413
Speaker 3: Swift is, and also how rich Travis Kelsey is nine

525
00:24:25,493 --> 00:24:28,133
Speaker 3: to nine two If you think you know that, really

526
00:24:28,213 --> 00:24:30,093
Speaker 3: keen to hear from you. But oh, eight hundred and

527
00:24:30,093 --> 00:24:32,013
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number core.

528
00:24:32,133 --> 00:24:34,173
Speaker 2: This psis says, I know what you're doing. You're rage

529
00:24:34,253 --> 00:24:38,213
Speaker 2: baiting your audience, that's good business. Absolutely, he would never

530
00:24:38,293 --> 00:24:39,293
Speaker 2: do that, not us.

531
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Speaker 20: Never.

532
00:24:40,213 --> 00:24:41,333
Speaker 3: It's twenty three to two.

533
00:24:41,693 --> 00:24:46,773
Speaker 2: How dare you.

534
00:24:44,613 --> 00:24:49,493
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call, oh,

535
00:24:49,493 --> 00:24:52,853
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said, be very

536
00:24:52,853 --> 00:24:53,613
Speaker 1: good afternoon.

537
00:24:53,613 --> 00:24:54,693
Speaker 3: It is twenty two to one.

538
00:24:54,853 --> 00:24:57,572
Speaker 2: So people say they don't care about Taylor Swift. And

539
00:24:57,653 --> 00:25:00,373
Speaker 2: yet about when we said how much money is she worth?

540
00:25:00,413 --> 00:25:03,813
Speaker 2: About four hundred people texted through with the guests.

541
00:25:03,853 --> 00:25:05,973
Speaker 3: They absolutely love it. So a couple of guesses coming

542
00:25:06,013 --> 00:25:09,693
Speaker 3: through one point four billion dollars two one hundred million dollars,

543
00:25:09,773 --> 00:25:13,253
Speaker 3: two billion dollars and as you say, so many texts

544
00:25:13,253 --> 00:25:15,532
Speaker 3: have just flooded through. So the correct answer is for

545
00:25:15,533 --> 00:25:18,253
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift to networth is one point six billion dollars.

546
00:25:18,413 --> 00:25:20,733
Speaker 3: And for Travis Kelcey that will change once they get

547
00:25:20,733 --> 00:25:23,533
Speaker 3: married married, but at the moment his networth is seventy million.

548
00:25:24,093 --> 00:25:29,533
Speaker 3: Oh god, talk about the breadwinner. Cow On may keep.

549
00:25:29,453 --> 00:25:32,973
Speaker 2: Us scrub seventy million? Is that all you got? All right? Hey?

550
00:25:32,973 --> 00:25:34,973
Speaker 2: The six has said how weak are people who can't

551
00:25:34,973 --> 00:25:38,933
Speaker 2: have a discussion on New Zealander's celebrity obsession. Are they

552
00:25:38,973 --> 00:25:41,853
Speaker 2: made of paper or just too dumb to see the

553
00:25:41,853 --> 00:25:45,493
Speaker 2: bigger question you're asking around what counts as news? Dumb

554
00:25:45,613 --> 00:25:47,653
Speaker 2: or weak? That is the option for many of these

555
00:25:47,693 --> 00:25:52,253
Speaker 2: people texting your show. What is it? Texters? Ah, they're

556
00:25:52,293 --> 00:25:56,173
Speaker 2: talking about something complex. Ah. They mentioned Tyler Swift. Ah,

557
00:25:56,933 --> 00:25:59,293
Speaker 2: I'm too dumb to understand what they're talking about.

558
00:25:59,453 --> 00:25:59,613
Speaker 15: Uh.

559
00:26:00,373 --> 00:26:01,293
Speaker 2: People are so soft?

560
00:26:01,493 --> 00:26:03,933
Speaker 3: What what a good text? Very strong? Thank you very

561
00:26:04,013 --> 00:26:06,093
Speaker 3: much for that, Blair? How are you mate?

562
00:26:08,613 --> 00:26:09,133
Speaker 20: Depressed?

563
00:26:12,373 --> 00:26:12,573
Speaker 1: You know?

564
00:26:12,773 --> 00:26:15,333
Speaker 20: I mean? I opened up my laptop this morning, woke

565
00:26:15,413 --> 00:26:18,373
Speaker 20: up beautiful day down here in Willingston, opened up the laptop,

566
00:26:18,573 --> 00:26:22,292
Speaker 20: opened up the stuff headlines to see what had happened

567
00:26:22,293 --> 00:26:25,773
Speaker 20: in the global community overnight, and you know, expecting to

568
00:26:25,813 --> 00:26:29,373
Speaker 20: see some crazy headline about what, you know, what the

569
00:26:29,413 --> 00:26:32,413
Speaker 20: orange moron in America has done last night and all

570
00:26:32,413 --> 00:26:34,213
Speaker 20: that sort of stuff, and no, there it is in

571
00:26:34,373 --> 00:26:39,253
Speaker 20: yellow breaking news. Taylor Swift and Kelsey whatever his faces

572
00:26:39,533 --> 00:26:43,533
Speaker 20: announced their engagement. I turned it off again just to know.

573
00:26:44,853 --> 00:26:46,653
Speaker 21: I don't think there's anything I could care about.

574
00:26:46,733 --> 00:26:48,333
Speaker 12: Lease, you know what I mean.

575
00:26:48,573 --> 00:26:50,493
Speaker 20: Don't get me wrong. I'm happy for them, well done,

576
00:26:50,493 --> 00:26:54,773
Speaker 20: congratulations blah blah blah. But you know, in two years time,

577
00:26:54,853 --> 00:26:57,493
Speaker 20: are we going to get the breaking news Taylor Swift, Kelsey,

578
00:26:57,933 --> 00:27:02,853
Speaker 20: what's his face? Divorce celebrity?

579
00:27:03,373 --> 00:27:05,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like most of lling coverage.

580
00:27:07,373 --> 00:27:10,613
Speaker 20: Come on anyone under the age of fifteen, anyone actually care?

581
00:27:10,893 --> 00:27:12,973
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing that that's really the wider question

582
00:27:13,013 --> 00:27:15,973
Speaker 2: we're asking here because it doesn't get put in the

583
00:27:16,013 --> 00:27:18,973
Speaker 2: news and on the paper because people don't click so

584
00:27:19,213 --> 00:27:22,813
Speaker 2: and across all demographics it brings in big numbers. So

585
00:27:22,933 --> 00:27:25,573
Speaker 2: what do you think that says about us that we

586
00:27:25,773 --> 00:27:29,013
Speaker 2: are so focused on this top these kind of topics,

587
00:27:29,013 --> 00:27:32,493
Speaker 2: these celebrity topics are Blair, not you, but everyone else.

588
00:27:34,013 --> 00:27:38,453
Speaker 21: Potentially life is too easy? Oh yeah, yeah, because I

589
00:27:38,493 --> 00:27:42,533
Speaker 21: mean if that's if that is has such a major

590
00:27:42,573 --> 00:27:45,333
Speaker 21: impact on your life that two people in America that

591
00:27:45,413 --> 00:27:46,053
Speaker 21: have nothing.

592
00:27:45,853 --> 00:27:49,373
Speaker 20: To do with us wouldn't know, wouldn't wouldn't know where

593
00:27:49,413 --> 00:27:51,933
Speaker 20: we were on the mat, wouldn't care, probably never going

594
00:27:51,973 --> 00:27:53,893
Speaker 20: to come here. She refused to come here last time,

595
00:27:54,053 --> 00:27:57,773
Speaker 20: so she doesn't give her rats, you know, but you're

596
00:27:57,813 --> 00:28:03,013
Speaker 20: devoting your existence into what she's doing. Yeah, honestly, there's

597
00:28:03,053 --> 00:28:05,453
Speaker 20: there's you know, I've got more important things in my

598
00:28:05,533 --> 00:28:10,693
Speaker 20: life to worry about. Then what a couple of yees

599
00:28:10,773 --> 00:28:14,333
Speaker 20: celebrities doing in their personal life.

600
00:28:14,453 --> 00:28:16,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe Draagan, there's a bit of the flip side

601
00:28:16,533 --> 00:28:18,333
Speaker 3: there as well, Blair. There a lot of the things

602
00:28:18,373 --> 00:28:21,973
Speaker 3: you're talking about there, the big news very complicated, and

603
00:28:22,013 --> 00:28:23,613
Speaker 3: there's not a hell of a lot most of us

604
00:28:23,693 --> 00:28:25,373
Speaker 3: can do about those things. There's a lot going in

605
00:28:25,413 --> 00:28:27,453
Speaker 3: the world that is just a bit too much. So

606
00:28:27,493 --> 00:28:29,853
Speaker 3: people look at stories like this and this is something

607
00:28:29,933 --> 00:28:32,053
Speaker 3: they can get there, hit around, something that may bring

608
00:28:32,093 --> 00:28:34,813
Speaker 3: them a bit of joy or at least escapism, And

609
00:28:34,893 --> 00:28:36,013
Speaker 3: so that's why they do it.

610
00:28:36,133 --> 00:28:36,373
Speaker 22: Do it?

611
00:28:36,373 --> 00:28:39,773
Speaker 3: Their lives are so fricking many people there's lives are

612
00:28:39,813 --> 00:28:41,413
Speaker 3: so freaking hard at the moment that this is a

613
00:28:41,413 --> 00:28:43,613
Speaker 3: little bit of escape escapism for a couple of minutes.

614
00:28:45,893 --> 00:28:47,373
Speaker 20: Yeah, and then what are they going to do tomorrow?

615
00:28:48,373 --> 00:28:50,573
Speaker 2: Well, she'll get divorced tomorrow.

616
00:28:51,693 --> 00:28:54,613
Speaker 20: But what But what what headline? What celebrity headline are

617
00:28:54,613 --> 00:28:58,893
Speaker 20: they clinging on to next? You know, how long are

618
00:28:58,893 --> 00:29:01,133
Speaker 20: they going to have to wait before they find out that,

619
00:29:01,533 --> 00:29:06,933
Speaker 20: I don't know, Kim Kardashian's You've got another TV show?

620
00:29:07,173 --> 00:29:09,173
Speaker 20: I mean, there's a waste of try as well, isn't.

621
00:29:08,973 --> 00:29:11,813
Speaker 2: It yeah, well Blair, you know, at least you're not

622
00:29:11,933 --> 00:29:14,573
Speaker 2: like Lou who rang before and her daughter rang here

623
00:29:14,613 --> 00:29:16,853
Speaker 2: at five point thirty am from the States to tell

624
00:29:16,893 --> 00:29:17,373
Speaker 2: her the news.

625
00:29:17,573 --> 00:29:19,613
Speaker 3: So that is excitement on a new level.

626
00:29:19,773 --> 00:29:22,533
Speaker 2: I've got a theory about this. I think that humans

627
00:29:22,653 --> 00:29:25,493
Speaker 2: were evolved to be interested in our family and our

628
00:29:25,613 --> 00:29:28,213
Speaker 2: wider group, what they're up to, if they're getting engaged,

629
00:29:28,253 --> 00:29:30,693
Speaker 2: if they've got a baby on the way, whatever's happening

630
00:29:30,733 --> 00:29:33,173
Speaker 2: in their life. Because we have social animals. As the

631
00:29:33,253 --> 00:29:36,013
Speaker 2: saying goes, drop one human into the jungle, you get

632
00:29:36,013 --> 00:29:38,213
Speaker 2: a dead human. Drop ten in and you get an

633
00:29:38,253 --> 00:29:41,133
Speaker 2: apex predator. Right, so we have to Everything about humans

634
00:29:41,173 --> 00:29:43,813
Speaker 2: is about social connection, right. So I think our interest

635
00:29:43,893 --> 00:29:48,133
Speaker 2: in celebrity marriages and births and all those kind of

636
00:29:48,133 --> 00:29:52,373
Speaker 2: things is a misfiring of that instinct to know what's

637
00:29:52,373 --> 00:29:55,813
Speaker 2: happening in other people's lives. We're only really evolved to

638
00:29:55,813 --> 00:29:58,613
Speaker 2: be in groups of about thirty to fifty. Yeah, that's

639
00:29:58,653 --> 00:30:01,733
Speaker 2: how we're evolved. So hearing what other people are up

640
00:30:01,733 --> 00:30:03,733
Speaker 2: to and being interest in other people's lives was a

641
00:30:03,773 --> 00:30:06,693
Speaker 2: survival technique for us. And so when you're caring about

642
00:30:07,573 --> 00:30:13,333
Speaker 2: you know, ha, marrying you know, Kelsey Travis, it's just

643
00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:18,253
Speaker 2: a misfiring of your you know, your your evolution. You know,

644
00:30:18,293 --> 00:30:22,093
Speaker 2: if you're of your you know, embedded into our DNA.

645
00:30:22,253 --> 00:30:24,253
Speaker 2: These these needs to be interested in each other.

646
00:30:24,133 --> 00:30:26,973
Speaker 3: Feeding that psychological need. I think that's a good theory. Oh,

647
00:30:27,013 --> 00:30:29,013
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

648
00:30:29,133 --> 00:30:31,893
Speaker 3: Get a don get a boys.

649
00:30:32,293 --> 00:30:34,973
Speaker 13: I'll tell you what. The divorce album is going to

650
00:30:34,973 --> 00:30:39,453
Speaker 13: be fantastic, sack.

651
00:30:40,613 --> 00:30:42,093
Speaker 2: She's going to make money on both into this.

652
00:30:43,333 --> 00:30:45,653
Speaker 13: I reckon. Then there's going to be the first talking

653
00:30:45,693 --> 00:30:49,413
Speaker 13: and making money. I disagree with the last caller. Christ

654
00:30:49,493 --> 00:30:52,573
Speaker 13: Juk Stadium is going to be completed very shortly, and

655
00:30:52,653 --> 00:30:54,933
Speaker 13: I reckon that'll be a brilliant place to host thirty

656
00:30:54,973 --> 00:30:58,533
Speaker 13: five forty thousand people screaming at Taylor swft. It will

657
00:30:58,573 --> 00:31:03,733
Speaker 13: be brilliant. I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, the first

658
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Speaker 13: Then there's the first baby, the first child album. Then

659
00:31:08,893 --> 00:31:14,453
Speaker 13: there's the family album. Yep, we're all over the heartbreak albums, aren't.

660
00:31:14,453 --> 00:31:16,973
Speaker 13: We're we're sick of the ex boyfriends. We don't care

661
00:31:17,013 --> 00:31:21,533
Speaker 13: about those anymore. This is absolutely sensational news.

662
00:31:21,693 --> 00:31:22,973
Speaker 2: You need to go to the bank now and get

663
00:31:22,973 --> 00:31:26,493
Speaker 2: a mortgage to pay for all this swift content and

664
00:31:26,573 --> 00:31:28,333
Speaker 2: product that's going to be coming out over the next

665
00:31:28,333 --> 00:31:31,453
Speaker 2: few years. On this don oh my god, don't start

666
00:31:31,493 --> 00:31:32,053
Speaker 2: me on that one.

667
00:31:32,093 --> 00:31:34,253
Speaker 13: I was just thinking about Phil Collins, and the reason

668
00:31:34,293 --> 00:31:37,453
Speaker 13: I was thinking about him was because his best albums

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Speaker 13: were written after his divorces. And I went to the

670
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Speaker 13: concert when he came down to christ Church. I spent

671
00:31:44,333 --> 00:31:47,053
Speaker 13: three hundred and fifty bucks on the ticket. I spent

672
00:31:47,173 --> 00:31:49,973
Speaker 13: four hundred bucks on the merch and I still didn't

673
00:31:50,013 --> 00:31:54,213
Speaker 13: get everything. And I've yet to used my drumsticks.

674
00:31:55,133 --> 00:31:56,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think on the stadium.

675
00:31:56,933 --> 00:31:58,093
Speaker 13: I even bought a drum kit.

676
00:31:58,813 --> 00:32:00,013
Speaker 3: And how are you going with the drum kit?

677
00:32:01,613 --> 00:32:04,293
Speaker 13: Let's not talk about the drum kit? Were right, Let's

678
00:32:04,333 --> 00:32:06,813
Speaker 13: just not have a talk about the drum kit. It's

679
00:32:06,853 --> 00:32:09,093
Speaker 13: still sitting in the garage waiting to go in the loft,

680
00:32:09,093 --> 00:32:12,173
Speaker 13: which I have quite completed. And I'm a bit concerned

681
00:32:12,173 --> 00:32:13,853
Speaker 13: about what the neighbors are going to say when I

682
00:32:13,933 --> 00:32:15,733
Speaker 13: start learning to play drums.

683
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it certainly is one of those punishing

684
00:32:18,533 --> 00:32:20,253
Speaker 3: instruments for your neighbors when you get a drum kit.

685
00:32:20,333 --> 00:32:22,693
Speaker 3: But don love your passion and I'm with you. If

686
00:32:22,733 --> 00:32:24,733
Speaker 3: Taylor's going anywhere in New Zealand, hopefully it's to that

687
00:32:24,773 --> 00:32:25,213
Speaker 3: new stadium.

688
00:32:25,293 --> 00:32:28,933
Speaker 2: Gross, wh doesn't she have a one hundred thousand capacity rule?

689
00:32:28,973 --> 00:32:29,773
Speaker 3: Oh we're buggered then.

690
00:32:30,093 --> 00:32:32,173
Speaker 2: I was in my milking shed at four forty five

691
00:32:32,213 --> 00:32:34,333
Speaker 2: when it came over the radio. Never had such a

692
00:32:34,373 --> 00:32:40,373
Speaker 2: frustrating milk. Four dropped in kicks cups, two premature births,

693
00:32:40,413 --> 00:32:45,493
Speaker 2: six bail balks, seven peed down gum boots, and number

694
00:32:45,573 --> 00:32:49,133
Speaker 2: seventy two millies slipped on a ramp and has injured it. Leg.

695
00:32:49,293 --> 00:32:50,693
Speaker 3: That's a bad day in the milky jad.

696
00:32:50,893 --> 00:32:53,253
Speaker 2: See this news really messed up George's morning?

697
00:32:53,293 --> 00:32:57,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, how dare Taylor do that to those beautiful cows gusting? Yeah?

698
00:32:57,933 --> 00:33:00,533
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, these people need help. Are they jealous of

699
00:33:00,573 --> 00:33:03,133
Speaker 2: fame or something? Let's celebrate what's the matter with human

700
00:33:03,213 --> 00:33:04,453
Speaker 2: beings these days?

701
00:33:05,653 --> 00:33:09,373
Speaker 3: And this one. Guys. If someone like Taylor gives people

702
00:33:09,453 --> 00:33:12,213
Speaker 3: pleasure and enjoyment, then she is a hero to those people.

703
00:33:12,253 --> 00:33:15,093
Speaker 3: Of course they want to hear all about her life,

704
00:33:15,213 --> 00:33:18,733
Speaker 3: especially if she has found love and marriage. Simple psychology

705
00:33:18,773 --> 00:33:19,133
Speaker 3: from Mike.

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00:33:19,453 --> 00:33:21,693
Speaker 2: Hi, boys, our work lunch table crew have an answer

707
00:33:21,693 --> 00:33:24,253
Speaker 2: to your question. We've been discussing it, and I think

708
00:33:24,293 --> 00:33:27,213
Speaker 2: the answer to why so many people care about Kelsey

709
00:33:27,253 --> 00:33:30,333
Speaker 2: and Taylor being in the news is because eighty percent

710
00:33:30,413 --> 00:33:34,533
Speaker 2: of people are morons. That's from Mark. So that's around.

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00:33:34,573 --> 00:33:36,253
Speaker 2: There are lunch table. They've solved it.

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00:33:36,253 --> 00:33:38,573
Speaker 3: It's a high percentage, all right. Oh, one hundred and

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00:33:38,613 --> 00:33:41,573
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you

714
00:33:41,693 --> 00:33:44,733
Speaker 3: read about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey this morning. Why

715
00:33:44,813 --> 00:33:46,333
Speaker 3: and if you think it's a load of tosh, can

716
00:33:46,373 --> 00:33:47,293
Speaker 3: you hear from you as well?

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00:33:47,453 --> 00:33:47,613
Speaker 13: Oh?

718
00:33:47,733 --> 00:33:51,853
Speaker 2: This is this is deep here the romans work society

719
00:33:51,893 --> 00:33:55,013
Speaker 2: out the Colosseum are kept, the simpletons entertained, while the

720
00:33:55,053 --> 00:33:59,133
Speaker 2: elites screw us with music. In Hollywood, it's a bunch

721
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Speaker 2: of satan Satanists.

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00:34:01,133 --> 00:34:06,733
Speaker 3: Red and Circus. Yeah, it is eleven to two.

723
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Speaker 4: Mattie Taylor Adams taking your calls on them.

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Speaker 1: Eighty it's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

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Speaker 3: V News Talk, zed B. It is nine to two.

726
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Speaker 3: I'm just laughing because people are really interested in the

727
00:34:20,053 --> 00:34:21,573
Speaker 3: show that you want to do, Matt and they're sending

728
00:34:21,653 --> 00:34:23,333
Speaker 3: through the names of the show. So just give us

729
00:34:23,333 --> 00:34:23,813
Speaker 3: the concept.

730
00:34:23,813 --> 00:34:27,013
Speaker 2: Begin Wow, or we had a caller was talking about

731
00:34:27,013 --> 00:34:29,853
Speaker 2: how Hosking was discussing that show on Netflix, about the

732
00:34:29,893 --> 00:34:32,413
Speaker 2: Biggest Loser Show, and I said that I had an

733
00:34:32,493 --> 00:34:36,973
Speaker 2: idea for a weight loss show where there was just

734
00:34:36,973 --> 00:34:39,013
Speaker 2: a small door so you got put in there and

735
00:34:39,093 --> 00:34:40,533
Speaker 2: yet to get small enough to get out the door.

736
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Speaker 2: And I was asking for names for it, and so

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00:34:43,933 --> 00:34:46,413
Speaker 2: many came through. People are very smart, absolutely to me,

738
00:34:46,533 --> 00:34:49,733
Speaker 2: but this one's very brilliant. Fit in the stoorway. Also,

739
00:34:49,813 --> 00:34:51,373
Speaker 2: that's high level fit in the stoorway.

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00:34:51,453 --> 00:34:52,333
Speaker 3: Oh so fairy story.

741
00:34:52,733 --> 00:34:53,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty good.

742
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Speaker 3: Love it. You keep those coming through. On nineteen nine two,

743
00:34:56,213 --> 00:34:59,213
Speaker 3: but we have been talking about Taylor Swift and Travis Calcey.

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00:34:59,573 --> 00:35:01,652
Speaker 3: Many people would know the news. They got engaged and

745
00:35:01,693 --> 00:35:04,733
Speaker 3: it is everywhere. It is leading headlines and bulletins all

746
00:35:04,813 --> 00:35:06,533
Speaker 3: over the world. So love to hear from you. On

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00:35:06,893 --> 00:35:09,573
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eight see if you all think.

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00:35:09,453 --> 00:35:13,652
Speaker 2: It's a bit much, Why hi, guys, breaking news for

749
00:35:13,693 --> 00:35:16,053
Speaker 2: goodness sake, Zebby, get your priorities right. It is not

750
00:35:16,253 --> 00:35:19,213
Speaker 2: worthy of breaking news. And no, I haven't clicked on

751
00:35:19,213 --> 00:35:22,213
Speaker 2: the headline. Really hoping this topic doesn't go one second

752
00:35:22,253 --> 00:35:24,973
Speaker 2: over the hour it is pathetic. You waste even an

753
00:35:25,013 --> 00:35:29,213
Speaker 2: hour on it, cheers Anne. I like I like that.

754
00:35:29,333 --> 00:35:31,652
Speaker 2: She goes, it's pathetic, you waste even an hour on it.

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00:35:31,933 --> 00:35:33,172
Speaker 2: Cheers Yet here cheers An.

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Speaker 3: It's all about finishing politely. Yeah, thank you very much, Anne.

757
00:35:35,853 --> 00:35:40,333
Speaker 3: But that's a lot of anger over Taylor Swift. Hi, guys,

758
00:35:41,173 --> 00:35:44,533
Speaker 3: I'm most upset about this news. It's better not jeopardize

759
00:35:44,533 --> 00:35:45,733
Speaker 3: our super Bowl chances.

760
00:35:46,133 --> 00:35:49,253
Speaker 2: Oh my god, are you're a Kansas City Chiefs fan? Disgusting?

761
00:35:49,333 --> 00:35:52,293
Speaker 2: That's that's the most discussing. Next, I've had all day

762
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Speaker 2: Ram's heart.

763
00:35:52,933 --> 00:35:53,933
Speaker 3: That hurts you, doesn't it?

764
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Speaker 2: Rams hard?

765
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Speaker 3: I think we've got Tim.

766
00:35:56,173 --> 00:35:56,933
Speaker 2: On the line.

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Speaker 3: Get a Tim, how are you?

768
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Speaker 4: Gentlemen?

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Speaker 22: Chess to pop things and kicks. We'll probably get about

770
00:36:03,053 --> 00:36:06,292
Speaker 22: fifteen hundred people or maybe eight hundred eight people. Scott

771
00:36:06,413 --> 00:36:09,293
Speaker 22: listening to Chippy or for those who's got up the

772
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Speaker 22: sporting upset about his stuff.

773
00:36:11,293 --> 00:36:13,613
Speaker 23: I'm just reading what he reads on stuff.

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Speaker 22: I'm just reading a few steps. She played in one

775
00:36:16,333 --> 00:36:20,173
Speaker 22: hundred and twenty one countries, one hundred and forty nine dates.

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00:36:20,453 --> 00:36:23,533
Speaker 22: Take the average price three hundred dollars. She grows two

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Speaker 22: billion dollars in the twenty one countries, ten point one

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00:36:27,053 --> 00:36:30,732
Speaker 22: million people pay to see her, and she pay, and

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Speaker 22: she pay. In the sixty million people, what's the last

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Speaker 22: time the Chiefs played in the final, So that's roughly

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00:36:37,693 --> 00:36:41,053
Speaker 22: about two hundred million. People pay huge amounts of money

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Speaker 22: to watch them, and we think that they are insignificantly

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Speaker 22: It's give.

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Speaker 11: Me a break.

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Speaker 22: I mean seriously, of course, that they play twenty one

786
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Speaker 22: countries in one hundred and seventy one major cities, crowd

787
00:36:51,773 --> 00:36:55,053
Speaker 22: average ninety thousand, and I'm paying four hundred bucks a ticket,

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Speaker 22: and we think.

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Speaker 20: They've got no impact.

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Speaker 22: They won't even heard of us, out of people in

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Speaker 22: the world.

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Speaker 24: It's going to be a break.

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Speaker 23: Seriously.

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00:37:01,413 --> 00:37:04,933
Speaker 2: It's funny right now on in our studio we have

795
00:37:04,933 --> 00:37:07,373
Speaker 2: two TV screens, and on both screens at the moment,

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00:37:07,453 --> 00:37:10,253
Speaker 2: on Fox News and CNN, they're running a story on this,

797
00:37:10,893 --> 00:37:13,333
Speaker 2: so we're talking about it. So on both channels that

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00:37:13,373 --> 00:37:16,093
Speaker 2: are on the screen here, we've got a text machine

799
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Speaker 2: full of people saying that no one cares. Yeah.

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Speaker 22: Interesting, they've performed in front of hundreds and hundreds of

801
00:37:21,773 --> 00:37:25,652
Speaker 22: millions of people just in the last twelve months.

802
00:37:24,733 --> 00:37:30,093
Speaker 3: It's money, yeah, and sixteen million people like their Instagram

803
00:37:30,453 --> 00:37:33,533
Speaker 3: Instagram post. Within minutes, Tammy says, I bet all the

804
00:37:33,533 --> 00:37:35,893
Speaker 3: haters would be absolutely over the moon if they saw

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00:37:36,013 --> 00:37:36,493
Speaker 3: in public.

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00:37:36,693 --> 00:37:39,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. And this person says, didn't everyone go

807
00:37:39,933 --> 00:37:42,213
Speaker 2: crazy for Elvis back in the day and then the Beatles?

808
00:37:42,853 --> 00:37:46,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, good point beatle Mania, it's just Taylor Mania.

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00:37:46,413 --> 00:37:48,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna go

810
00:37:48,693 --> 00:37:49,893
Speaker 2: on a limb here and say I think that the

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00:37:49,893 --> 00:37:52,773
Speaker 2: Beatles were more talented than Taylor Swift. I'm just going

812
00:37:52,813 --> 00:37:53,373
Speaker 2: to go to a limb here.

813
00:37:53,413 --> 00:37:57,013
Speaker 3: You've already upset the Texas, right, well, a couple more Texas.

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00:37:57,013 --> 00:37:59,652
Speaker 3: To wrap this up, just watching someone in the car

815
00:37:59,693 --> 00:38:05,133
Speaker 3: next to me watching a bit of Kelsey and Taylor news.

816
00:38:05,293 --> 00:38:07,893
Speaker 3: It's even while they're driving. This is the level that

817
00:38:07,933 --> 00:38:09,373
Speaker 3: we've got it discussed me.

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00:38:12,893 --> 00:38:13,853
Speaker 2: I can't condone that.

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Speaker 3: No. No, I mean, if you drive in your car,

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00:38:16,533 --> 00:38:18,253
Speaker 3: don't be looking at it at celebrity gossip.

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00:38:20,053 --> 00:38:23,013
Speaker 2: And yet Taylor Swift's endorsement of Karmala Harris didn't push

822
00:38:23,053 --> 00:38:25,212
Speaker 2: her over the line, did it. No, that's true. At

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Speaker 2: the time when Taylor Swift came out in support of Carmela,

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00:38:27,733 --> 00:38:29,653
Speaker 2: they were all the news was this is going to

825
00:38:29,693 --> 00:38:30,093
Speaker 2: shift it?

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Speaker 4: Ye.

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00:38:30,493 --> 00:38:33,613
Speaker 2: She was basically telling all the Swifties to vote Carmela. Yeah,

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00:38:33,653 --> 00:38:35,693
Speaker 2: and then they couldn't be bothered and they didn't go

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Speaker 2: out and vote.

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Speaker 3: She can sell a record, but can't get a president.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much to everyone who called in text

833
00:38:42,013 --> 00:38:44,773
Speaker 3: on that, particularly the people that got really worked up,

834
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Speaker 3: really enjoyed those texts.

835
00:38:45,933 --> 00:38:48,173
Speaker 2: Tell how lovely she's engaged. I wish it was me.

836
00:38:48,333 --> 00:38:52,133
Speaker 2: People have become so iffing, angry and hateful at other

837
00:38:52,173 --> 00:38:53,053
Speaker 2: people's happiness.

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00:38:53,213 --> 00:38:56,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely put in a nice text to end on

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Speaker 3: right coming up after two o'clock. A woman who was

840
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Speaker 3: told by a power company that she should put on

841
00:39:00,693 --> 00:39:03,093
Speaker 3: more clothes is just one of hundreds of New Zealanders

842
00:39:03,133 --> 00:39:05,493
Speaker 3: who have said struggling with their power bills this winter.

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00:39:05,533 --> 00:39:08,772
Speaker 3: According to an article, the woman's name was Patricia. Rang

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Speaker 3: the company and said I can't afford to pay the

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Speaker 3: power bill and they said put on a jersey. So

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00:39:12,893 --> 00:39:14,212
Speaker 3: really can never check with you on this one.

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Speaker 1: I wait.

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Speaker 3: One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: Ninety two ninety two is the text Newsport and Weather

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Speaker 3: on its way.

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Speaker 1: Good advice, talking with you all, afternoon, it's Matt Heathen,

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Speaker 1: Taylor Adams afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show at

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Speaker 3: seven past two. Great to have your company. This is

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00:39:47,733 --> 00:39:50,733
Speaker 3: going to be a good hour of discussion. So a

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00:39:50,773 --> 00:39:53,653
Speaker 3: woman was told by a power company that she should

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Speaker 3: put on more clothes as her power ball started to skyrocket.

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00:39:58,013 --> 00:40:00,133
Speaker 3: So her name was Patricia, she didn't give her last name.

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00:40:00,173 --> 00:40:02,293
Speaker 3: Said her power bill of four hundred and twenty bucks

861
00:40:02,493 --> 00:40:05,213
Speaker 3: was getting a bit much for her and her two children.

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Speaker 3: She was struggling to pay, so she said, I quote,

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Speaker 3: I adjusted the weekly payments to suit painted off before

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Speaker 3: the next bill. I'm now paying at one hundred and

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Speaker 3: twenty bucks a week. I rang the power company and

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Speaker 3: asked what I can do, and they suggested we wear

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Speaker 3: more clothes.

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Speaker 2: So the implication is that's somehow disrespectful of the power

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Speaker 2: company or you know that that that that's not a

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Speaker 2: sensible suggestion. But isn't it quite a good suggestion. So

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Speaker 2: if you can't afford your power bill, then putting on

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Speaker 2: more clothes. As I was saying before, when I was

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Speaker 2: a kid, if I ever said it was cold in

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Speaker 2: the house, growing up on the farm. That was the

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Speaker 2: first thing that my dad would say, I'd hardly even

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Speaker 2: get it out and put on a jersey, then put on.

877
00:40:48,133 --> 00:40:51,893
Speaker 3: A jumper, put on a jumper, and that's in Donners's

878
00:40:51,933 --> 00:40:54,172
Speaker 3: cold and Donners yeah yeah.

879
00:40:54,213 --> 00:40:57,413
Speaker 2: And then we we we generated our own heat using

880
00:40:57,413 --> 00:41:00,133
Speaker 2: the aga the arga, so it was running through the

881
00:41:00,653 --> 00:41:02,373
Speaker 2: you know so yet to my dad had to get

882
00:41:02,453 --> 00:41:04,692
Speaker 2: up in the morning and throw the throw the coke

883
00:41:04,773 --> 00:41:07,172
Speaker 2: into the into the oven to get things going. Love

884
00:41:07,213 --> 00:41:08,973
Speaker 2: it so he I think he got used to get

885
00:41:09,013 --> 00:41:10,493
Speaker 2: angry about that because it took a while to heat

886
00:41:10,533 --> 00:41:12,652
Speaker 2: up the house in the morning. And I'll be like,

887
00:41:13,133 --> 00:41:14,973
Speaker 2: God's cold, Dad.

888
00:41:15,053 --> 00:41:15,973
Speaker 8: Put on a job book.

889
00:41:16,253 --> 00:41:18,293
Speaker 3: I've got to say. Mum used to get pretty irate

890
00:41:18,333 --> 00:41:21,212
Speaker 3: about us leaving lights on in rooms, to the point

891
00:41:21,253 --> 00:41:23,773
Speaker 3: where we got about three warnings before she get out

892
00:41:23,773 --> 00:41:25,453
Speaker 3: the wooden spoon if we kept leaving the lights on

893
00:41:25,493 --> 00:41:28,093
Speaker 3: in the bedroom. But you're right, I mean it was

894
00:41:28,173 --> 00:41:30,493
Speaker 3: not even that long ago that we were all very

895
00:41:30,613 --> 00:41:33,333
Speaker 3: power conscious that we'd watch everything that we're doing. The

896
00:41:33,413 --> 00:41:35,413
Speaker 3: lights go off when you're not in a room, keep

897
00:41:35,453 --> 00:41:37,692
Speaker 3: the doors closed. What we're raised in a barn, put

898
00:41:37,693 --> 00:41:39,453
Speaker 3: a jersey on, if you're two gold.

899
00:41:39,573 --> 00:41:42,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, but do you save any money by turning lights off?

900
00:41:42,533 --> 00:41:46,773
Speaker 2: Because I'm not sure about this. You know, look, my

901
00:41:46,893 --> 00:41:49,053
Speaker 2: kid's spurned through power like nothing else in the world.

902
00:41:49,053 --> 00:41:52,053
Speaker 2: And it actually slightly discussed me, Like on the week

903
00:41:52,093 --> 00:41:53,373
Speaker 2: that I don't have them, if I go up to

904
00:41:53,413 --> 00:41:56,533
Speaker 2: their level and I'll see that they've left all the

905
00:41:56,613 --> 00:42:00,333
Speaker 2: lights on, the bathroom fan, the bathroom fan on, the

906
00:42:00,333 --> 00:42:02,893
Speaker 2: bathroom mirror light on. They've got all the lights in

907
00:42:02,933 --> 00:42:05,693
Speaker 2: their room on. If it's summer, everything that the fans

908
00:42:05,693 --> 00:42:07,493
Speaker 2: are going in the room, or the computer's on, it's.

909
00:42:07,373 --> 00:42:08,292
Speaker 3: Just everything's cranky.

910
00:42:08,533 --> 00:42:11,733
Speaker 2: It's basically sucking the grid dry if I forget to

911
00:42:11,733 --> 00:42:16,013
Speaker 2: go up and check when they leave. But how much, like,

912
00:42:16,213 --> 00:42:18,293
Speaker 2: does turning off lights really save you that much?

913
00:42:18,533 --> 00:42:21,453
Speaker 3: No, not anymore. I mean, speaking about those goldful light

914
00:42:21,453 --> 00:42:23,253
Speaker 3: bulbs that we have to buy now, they're about ten

915
00:42:23,293 --> 00:42:25,053
Speaker 3: bucks of pope. When did that start?

916
00:42:25,453 --> 00:42:25,813
Speaker 2: Yeah?

917
00:42:25,893 --> 00:42:28,053
Speaker 3: That annoys me. I used to enjoy buying those fifty

918
00:42:28,093 --> 00:42:28,692
Speaker 3: cent light bulbs.

919
00:42:28,693 --> 00:42:30,253
Speaker 2: But you're right, I mean it used to be much

920
00:42:30,253 --> 00:42:32,373
Speaker 2: bigger a deal that you had to turn lights off.

921
00:42:32,573 --> 00:42:34,813
Speaker 2: I think back in the day, the filaments was sucking

922
00:42:34,853 --> 00:42:37,533
Speaker 2: a lot more power out. But yeah, I mean, what

923
00:42:37,653 --> 00:42:39,292
Speaker 2: do you do when you see that your power balls

924
00:42:39,333 --> 00:42:42,172
Speaker 2: too high? Do you do you make changes to try

925
00:42:42,173 --> 00:42:43,573
Speaker 2: and save power?

926
00:42:43,773 --> 00:42:44,293
Speaker 3: Yeah?

927
00:42:44,293 --> 00:42:46,413
Speaker 2: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. You do you think

928
00:42:46,413 --> 00:42:48,293
Speaker 2: this is disrespectful of the power companies? Do you think

929
00:42:48,333 --> 00:42:52,973
Speaker 2: that they're absolutely routing us? And for a power company

930
00:42:53,013 --> 00:42:56,813
Speaker 2: to say put on put on more clothes to try

931
00:42:56,893 --> 00:42:59,533
Speaker 2: and cut your power bill is horribly disrespectful.

932
00:42:59,573 --> 00:43:01,373
Speaker 3: That was the age of advice. I eight one hundred

933
00:43:01,373 --> 00:43:03,373
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number of core. Are

934
00:43:03,373 --> 00:43:06,453
Speaker 3: you doing anything to try and conserve energy? You mention

935
00:43:06,693 --> 00:43:08,693
Speaker 3: your beautiful kids there and they turn every think on

936
00:43:08,733 --> 00:43:10,933
Speaker 3: that they can and keep it cranking. But I've got

937
00:43:10,973 --> 00:43:13,093
Speaker 3: to say, honestly, I was a bit annoyed when my

938
00:43:13,173 --> 00:43:15,893
Speaker 3: power bill went up quite considerably. I was with a

939
00:43:15,893 --> 00:43:18,413
Speaker 3: Flick and they got sold off to Meridian and went

940
00:43:18,493 --> 00:43:20,853
Speaker 3: up about forty percent. But that has since topped me

941
00:43:21,253 --> 00:43:28,093
Speaker 3: cranking the dryer, keeping the heat pump going. So ladid ladie, Oh,

942
00:43:28,133 --> 00:43:30,373
Speaker 3: e one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

943
00:43:30,653 --> 00:43:32,733
Speaker 3: How much has your power bill gone up? And what

944
00:43:32,773 --> 00:43:35,653
Speaker 3: are you trying to do to save that power consumption?

945
00:43:36,053 --> 00:43:36,813
Speaker 3: And your wallet?

946
00:43:36,813 --> 00:43:37,013
Speaker 2: As well.

947
00:43:37,093 --> 00:43:38,853
Speaker 3: Really can never check with you. Nine two niney two's

948
00:43:38,893 --> 00:43:40,732
Speaker 3: the text number. It is eleven past two.

949
00:43:41,213 --> 00:43:45,693
Speaker 1: Wow your home of afternoon Talk mad Heathen Taylor Adams

950
00:43:45,853 --> 00:43:49,773
Speaker 1: Afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth Talk said be.

951
00:43:51,693 --> 00:43:54,253
Speaker 3: Afternoon. It is thirteen past two. So a woman called

952
00:43:54,253 --> 00:43:57,212
Speaker 3: Patricia didn't use her last name, spoke to media and

953
00:43:57,333 --> 00:43:59,613
Speaker 3: said when she rang her power company to say how

954
00:43:59,653 --> 00:44:02,333
Speaker 3: can I get cheaper power? And what can I do?

955
00:44:02,613 --> 00:44:05,253
Speaker 3: The power company told her to wear more clothes. So

956
00:44:05,413 --> 00:44:07,653
Speaker 3: is that really heartless from the power company or is

957
00:44:07,653 --> 00:44:08,253
Speaker 3: that good advice?

958
00:44:08,373 --> 00:44:11,173
Speaker 2: We were asking if that was appropriate, and this texture

959
00:44:11,253 --> 00:44:15,893
Speaker 2: makes a really good point news to ask yourself just

960
00:44:16,093 --> 00:44:19,493
Speaker 2: scrolling down to this. Basically what it said was I've

961
00:44:19,493 --> 00:44:21,413
Speaker 2: lost it because something texts coming through. But it was

962
00:44:21,493 --> 00:44:24,733
Speaker 2: basically ask yourself if it was too hot in summer

963
00:44:25,133 --> 00:44:27,333
Speaker 2: and they asked her to take off clothes, would that

964
00:44:27,373 --> 00:44:27,933
Speaker 2: be appropriate?

965
00:44:28,373 --> 00:44:29,093
Speaker 3: I think good point.

966
00:44:29,213 --> 00:44:31,013
Speaker 2: I think that would be less appropriate. Yeah.

967
00:44:31,013 --> 00:44:31,613
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

968
00:44:31,653 --> 00:44:34,453
Speaker 2: My last power bill was eight hundred and eighteen dollars.

969
00:44:34,493 --> 00:44:37,053
Speaker 2: My previous bills were ninety five dollars and one hundred

970
00:44:37,053 --> 00:44:40,413
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars, all estimates. They told me not good enough.

971
00:44:41,333 --> 00:44:44,093
Speaker 3: How can that seems there must be a glitch in

972
00:44:44,133 --> 00:44:45,853
Speaker 3: the system to go for one hundred and fifty two

973
00:44:45,893 --> 00:44:47,893
Speaker 3: to eight hundred and eighteen bucks.

974
00:44:47,893 --> 00:44:50,213
Speaker 2: Someone running an extension called out of your out of

975
00:44:50,213 --> 00:44:51,973
Speaker 2: a window at the back of your house, and you know,

976
00:44:52,053 --> 00:44:53,172
Speaker 2: running a sparpool next door.

977
00:44:53,213 --> 00:44:55,413
Speaker 3: I'll be a little bit of a cottage industry running

978
00:44:55,573 --> 00:44:57,652
Speaker 3: down in the basement as well. Oh one hundred eighty

979
00:44:57,693 --> 00:45:00,252
Speaker 3: ten eighty is number. Call Helen, Welcome to the show.

980
00:45:02,133 --> 00:45:04,053
Speaker 15: Oh hi, I just puldad.

981
00:45:04,133 --> 00:45:06,893
Speaker 11: Let you know that we've got a deal with Contact

982
00:45:07,653 --> 00:45:10,893
Speaker 11: where we get free power from nine pm till midnight.

983
00:45:11,613 --> 00:45:16,973
Speaker 11: So we turn on the dishwasher, the washing machine, the dryer,

984
00:45:17,853 --> 00:45:20,533
Speaker 11: got a heat pew well that goes off that time,

985
00:45:20,853 --> 00:45:22,373
Speaker 11: our hot water cylinder.

986
00:45:22,013 --> 00:45:23,373
Speaker 7: Which is huge yea.

987
00:45:23,653 --> 00:45:27,653
Speaker 11: And our biggest power this winter has been two forty

988
00:45:27,733 --> 00:45:30,853
Speaker 11: eight and that was when our daughter was at home

989
00:45:30,893 --> 00:45:37,533
Speaker 11: cranking everything up. So yeah, it's really pays all if

990
00:45:37,573 --> 00:45:40,173
Speaker 11: you can get that deal, and if you're willing to

991
00:45:40,213 --> 00:45:42,173
Speaker 11: get up in the morning and empty your dishwasher on

992
00:45:42,293 --> 00:45:43,252
Speaker 11: peaky washing out.

993
00:45:43,613 --> 00:45:46,212
Speaker 2: Yeah right, So that's the flurry of activity at nine

994
00:45:46,213 --> 00:45:48,853
Speaker 2: o'clock in your house, you know. So if you would

995
00:45:48,853 --> 00:45:50,293
Speaker 2: you jump up from in front of the TV and

996
00:45:50,373 --> 00:45:50,813
Speaker 2: go hard?

997
00:45:52,733 --> 00:45:56,013
Speaker 11: We just yeah, flying around pushing buttons.

998
00:45:56,173 --> 00:45:57,533
Speaker 23: Honestly love it.

999
00:45:58,053 --> 00:46:00,093
Speaker 3: Give a bag to the Power company? They take enough.

1000
00:46:00,773 --> 00:46:04,212
Speaker 2: I love that's that's brilliant that you're thinking through it.

1001
00:46:04,293 --> 00:46:06,413
Speaker 2: I mean, I think most people would just be too

1002
00:46:06,493 --> 00:46:12,533
Speaker 2: lazy to do that. You know, what do you think about?

1003
00:46:12,573 --> 00:46:14,773
Speaker 2: What about what do you think about the when you're

1004
00:46:14,893 --> 00:46:16,813
Speaker 2: when you're too cold? What do you think about the

1005
00:46:16,933 --> 00:46:19,933
Speaker 2: Power Company telling this woman Patricia to put more clothes

1006
00:46:19,973 --> 00:46:23,733
Speaker 2: on when she was talking about her four hundred and

1007
00:46:23,733 --> 00:46:24,333
Speaker 2: twenty dollars bill.

1008
00:46:26,013 --> 00:46:30,333
Speaker 11: I was offended. I've got to say, well, hey, I'm

1009
00:46:30,413 --> 00:46:33,413
Speaker 11: just driving up into the hills of Christus at the moment,

1010
00:46:33,533 --> 00:46:37,893
Speaker 11: so I'll probably lose you. But it's a gorgeous name.

1011
00:46:38,013 --> 00:46:39,933
Speaker 11: You don't need to eat pump on today, so.

1012
00:46:41,573 --> 00:46:41,853
Speaker 3: Love it.

1013
00:46:43,613 --> 00:46:45,293
Speaker 2: You go hard at nine pm tonight and get all

1014
00:46:45,333 --> 00:46:45,893
Speaker 2: that stuff done.

1015
00:46:45,933 --> 00:46:47,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. The Hour of Power. I mean,

1016
00:46:48,053 --> 00:46:49,613
Speaker 3: I love the sound of that. But you're right, there's

1017
00:46:49,613 --> 00:46:51,373
Speaker 3: a lot of Edmond jumping up and I would put

1018
00:46:51,373 --> 00:46:51,893
Speaker 3: everything on.

1019
00:46:52,013 --> 00:46:53,812
Speaker 2: If she wasn't going to lose, well, I'd wonder why

1020
00:46:53,893 --> 00:46:56,813
Speaker 2: she was offended about that, because you don't really know

1021
00:46:56,853 --> 00:47:01,133
Speaker 2: how it was said. You don't because it could have been, well,

1022
00:47:01,493 --> 00:47:02,813
Speaker 2: you're cold in your house, cause I mean, what is

1023
00:47:02,853 --> 00:47:04,453
Speaker 2: the other solution if you're cold in your house and

1024
00:47:04,493 --> 00:47:06,973
Speaker 2: you can't afford the electricity and the electricity prices what

1025
00:47:07,013 --> 00:47:11,093
Speaker 2: it is, right, so we maybe the whole system needs

1026
00:47:11,133 --> 00:47:14,053
Speaker 2: to change the electricity prices come down. Power in our

1027
00:47:14,093 --> 00:47:16,652
Speaker 2: country is too expensive. Lets we all know that, and

1028
00:47:16,693 --> 00:47:18,733
Speaker 2: it's a problem with that productivity because of it. Right,

1029
00:47:19,373 --> 00:47:22,213
Speaker 2: But if that's the price of power and you can't

1030
00:47:22,213 --> 00:47:26,933
Speaker 2: pay it, and you know, that suggestion of were more

1031
00:47:26,933 --> 00:47:29,813
Speaker 2: clothes might have come from a place of caring. Yeah,

1032
00:47:29,893 --> 00:47:32,253
Speaker 2: you know, we're just reading it and the implication of

1033
00:47:32,293 --> 00:47:34,013
Speaker 2: the story is it's like try and putting on some

1034
00:47:34,093 --> 00:47:36,853
Speaker 2: more clothes and it's sort of condescending fashion. But it

1035
00:47:36,933 --> 00:47:39,373
Speaker 2: could have just been someone on the call sender going,

1036
00:47:40,213 --> 00:47:41,613
Speaker 2: maybe you're going to have to put on more clothes.

1037
00:47:41,653 --> 00:47:43,893
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, because that's the cost of power and you

1038
00:47:43,973 --> 00:47:44,453
Speaker 2: have to pay it.

1039
00:47:44,493 --> 00:47:46,133
Speaker 3: Well, when you ring them up and you say, look,

1040
00:47:46,173 --> 00:47:48,133
Speaker 3: I really can't afford to pay this or it's too high,

1041
00:47:48,173 --> 00:47:50,772
Speaker 3: have you got any tips that sounds like? And look

1042
00:47:50,813 --> 00:47:53,013
Speaker 3: I get in this story, they've made it sound really heartless,

1043
00:47:53,013 --> 00:47:55,413
Speaker 3: as you say, But what other tip would a power

1044
00:47:55,453 --> 00:47:58,453
Speaker 3: company give you apart from hey, switch off your heat pump.

1045
00:47:58,453 --> 00:48:01,413
Speaker 3: I can't. It's winterrum cold. Well, I'm really sorry. I mean,

1046
00:48:01,453 --> 00:48:03,413
Speaker 3: if you've got a warm jumper that you could put on.

1047
00:48:03,493 --> 00:48:05,453
Speaker 3: If it was said like that, is that really that

1048
00:48:05,653 --> 00:48:07,772
Speaker 3: heartless or offensive? What other option is there?

1049
00:48:07,853 --> 00:48:11,853
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it's like I don't have enough money for food.

1050
00:48:12,093 --> 00:48:13,413
Speaker 2: Have you tried buying cheaper food?

1051
00:48:13,453 --> 00:48:13,613
Speaker 7: You know?

1052
00:48:13,693 --> 00:48:15,613
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, it's could come from

1053
00:48:15,613 --> 00:48:18,652
Speaker 2: a plate nice place. Hey mate, it's called central heating

1054
00:48:18,653 --> 00:48:21,853
Speaker 2: when hot water from your agur heat sources runs into

1055
00:48:21,853 --> 00:48:25,613
Speaker 2: your radiators. Emitters cheers. That's jo from central heating New Zealand.

1056
00:48:25,613 --> 00:48:27,533
Speaker 2: I was talking about how my house was heated when

1057
00:48:27,573 --> 00:48:29,933
Speaker 2: I was growing up. Yeah, through an argur. Those radiators,

1058
00:48:29,973 --> 00:48:32,293
Speaker 2: it's bloody good, bring those back, you know. That's the

1059
00:48:32,333 --> 00:48:33,453
Speaker 2: other thing that happened to me in the morning on

1060
00:48:33,533 --> 00:48:35,933
Speaker 2: hanging out by the radiators, and after my dad had

1061
00:48:36,333 --> 00:48:38,093
Speaker 2: said to me, put on a jumper if you're complaining

1062
00:48:38,093 --> 00:48:40,813
Speaker 2: about it's cold, he'd then chased me away from the radiators.

1063
00:48:41,293 --> 00:48:43,533
Speaker 2: Get away, get your breakfast, get away. You can't just

1064
00:48:43,773 --> 00:48:45,252
Speaker 2: hang out with a radiator all morning.

1065
00:48:45,293 --> 00:48:47,933
Speaker 3: You have the hard man, wasn't it? Chris? How are you? Mate?

1066
00:48:48,813 --> 00:48:49,933
Speaker 13: Yeah? God, thank you yourself?

1067
00:48:50,093 --> 00:48:52,973
Speaker 3: Very good. And what's your thoughts about your power situation?

1068
00:48:54,173 --> 00:48:57,213
Speaker 13: Ah? Well, yeah, it's getting out of hand. Where the

1069
00:48:57,413 --> 00:49:01,373
Speaker 13: fast twelve months, we've gone from about three hundred and

1070
00:49:01,373 --> 00:49:03,773
Speaker 13: fifty three seventy dollars a month to seven hundred and

1071
00:49:03,853 --> 00:49:05,373
Speaker 13: thirty dollars this last month.

1072
00:49:05,453 --> 00:49:05,933
Speaker 23: Wow.

1073
00:49:07,333 --> 00:49:12,093
Speaker 13: Yeah, Well, like like you were saying earlier, family have

1074
00:49:12,213 --> 00:49:14,692
Speaker 13: moved back for Mossie and they've been staying with us,

1075
00:49:14,733 --> 00:49:17,693
Speaker 13: so our power bill has sort of gone through the

1076
00:49:17,733 --> 00:49:19,652
Speaker 13: roof because they're feeling the cold a little bit. But

1077
00:49:20,613 --> 00:49:26,533
Speaker 13: we just can't believe the power increase and charges for

1078
00:49:27,253 --> 00:49:30,493
Speaker 13: this last twelve months. And of course the energy supply

1079
00:49:30,613 --> 00:49:34,173
Speaker 13: that we're using is not going to be trading anymore.

1080
00:49:34,213 --> 00:49:36,173
Speaker 13: That going out and we're going to be forced together

1081
00:49:37,013 --> 00:49:40,732
Speaker 13: their parent company. And my mate was around last night

1082
00:49:40,773 --> 00:49:43,853
Speaker 13: and he's he's already been changed over, and he said,

1083
00:49:43,933 --> 00:49:46,533
Speaker 13: I'm going to be paying an extra hundred dollars more

1084
00:49:46,613 --> 00:49:49,253
Speaker 13: a month for himself who lives on his own, to

1085
00:49:49,493 --> 00:49:54,373
Speaker 13: four hundred dollars a month by this changeover and go, well,

1086
00:49:54,373 --> 00:49:56,053
Speaker 13: are we going to be paying once we change over?

1087
00:49:56,413 --> 00:49:58,333
Speaker 2: What's he doing that it costs him? Because I'm just

1088
00:49:58,373 --> 00:50:00,413
Speaker 2: looking at my power bill and it's only three hundred

1089
00:50:00,413 --> 00:50:02,293
Speaker 2: dollars a month, and I lived with four people in

1090
00:50:02,373 --> 00:50:07,493
Speaker 2: my house, so for four hundred dollars a month, I mean.

1091
00:50:07,693 --> 00:50:11,853
Speaker 13: He's got he's using two air conditioning coons and or

1092
00:50:11,853 --> 00:50:14,693
Speaker 13: heat pumps and they go twenty four seven. So I

1093
00:50:14,773 --> 00:50:16,333
Speaker 13: suspect that's where where.

1094
00:50:16,093 --> 00:50:18,133
Speaker 2: His powers through is he got it sounds like he's

1095
00:50:18,133 --> 00:50:21,252
Speaker 2: got some insulation problems as well, but but.

1096
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Speaker 13: Yeah, there's no inflation. There's no insulation in his walls

1097
00:50:23,733 --> 00:50:25,212
Speaker 13: is floor and ceiling of course.

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00:50:25,413 --> 00:50:28,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, would you consider when your price goes

1099
00:50:28,693 --> 00:50:31,173
Speaker 2: up like this, would you say to the you know,

1100
00:50:31,213 --> 00:50:32,973
Speaker 2: you've got some people that have come home and staying there,

1101
00:50:33,213 --> 00:50:36,252
Speaker 2: shorter showers, things like that.

1102
00:50:35,653 --> 00:50:38,453
Speaker 13: Ah, that's not so much because we're on gas. We

1103
00:50:38,613 --> 00:50:40,613
Speaker 13: use telephones for hot water.

1104
00:50:40,653 --> 00:50:42,653
Speaker 2: But okay, so that's equation.

1105
00:50:43,773 --> 00:50:46,053
Speaker 13: No they've got we've got don't even use hot water.

1106
00:50:46,213 --> 00:50:49,813
Speaker 13: So yeah, that's it's it's totally air conditioning, you knowal

1107
00:50:49,853 --> 00:50:53,652
Speaker 13: heat pumps and heaters and bedrooms. You know, it's they've

1108
00:50:53,653 --> 00:50:56,292
Speaker 13: got a young family, so they keep it up pretty high.

1109
00:50:56,293 --> 00:50:58,173
Speaker 13: And yeah, they're sort of sort of hurting a bit.

1110
00:50:58,693 --> 00:51:00,573
Speaker 3: Have we kind of lost that ability Chris though? Do

1111
00:51:00,613 --> 00:51:03,093
Speaker 3: you think to look at conserving power? Has it got

1112
00:51:03,133 --> 00:51:04,933
Speaker 3: to the point where you can't you know, those those

1113
00:51:04,973 --> 00:51:07,333
Speaker 3: families like the one you mentioned enough cut out everything.

1114
00:51:07,373 --> 00:51:09,692
Speaker 3: They can't remember that. Those big campaigns like you say,

1115
00:51:09,733 --> 00:51:11,973
Speaker 3: five minute showers and change your light bulbs and all

1116
00:51:11,973 --> 00:51:14,253
Speaker 3: those big campaigns is come on, u ZL and let

1117
00:51:14,373 --> 00:51:16,693
Speaker 3: save power. I haven't heard one of those for a

1118
00:51:16,693 --> 00:51:17,172
Speaker 3: long time.

1119
00:51:18,093 --> 00:51:21,333
Speaker 13: Yeah, but we are using energy saving appliances or even

1120
00:51:21,613 --> 00:51:24,133
Speaker 13: the lights are gone to LED. You know, they don't

1121
00:51:24,173 --> 00:51:27,213
Speaker 13: try I have a lot of power. It's your heating,

1122
00:51:27,253 --> 00:51:31,853
Speaker 13: you know, the heat pumps and the electric fans you're

1123
00:51:31,893 --> 00:51:34,893
Speaker 13: using and that sort of thing. Veterance, it's they just

1124
00:51:34,973 --> 00:51:37,813
Speaker 13: choose the power. As I said, we've never never seen

1125
00:51:37,853 --> 00:51:39,933
Speaker 13: anything like this before. And of course we're not going

1126
00:51:39,973 --> 00:51:42,093
Speaker 13: to say anything against it either because they've got to

1127
00:51:42,093 --> 00:51:46,933
Speaker 13: be warm. And yeah, so we're cost saving. Yeah, they've

1128
00:51:47,093 --> 00:51:49,293
Speaker 13: they've finally brought a place and moved out. So there's

1129
00:51:49,293 --> 00:51:50,013
Speaker 13: our cost saving.

1130
00:51:50,493 --> 00:51:52,053
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

1131
00:51:52,773 --> 00:51:55,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, thanks for your call, Chris. So yeah, cooling

1132
00:51:55,933 --> 00:51:59,093
Speaker 2: and heating is the biggest suck on power, isn't it.

1133
00:51:59,173 --> 00:52:00,893
Speaker 2: And so you've got your heating of your house and

1134
00:52:00,933 --> 00:52:04,213
Speaker 2: then it's water heating, you know, not if you're running

1135
00:52:04,213 --> 00:52:08,413
Speaker 2: a californ But then lighting is twelve percent, right, is

1136
00:52:08,533 --> 00:52:11,253
Speaker 2: just this is an average in New Zealand. Washer and

1137
00:52:11,333 --> 00:52:15,053
Speaker 2: dryer thirteen percent, refrigerators blasting out four percent? Who of

1138
00:52:15,093 --> 00:52:16,253
Speaker 2: your power? And you've got to you got to run

1139
00:52:16,253 --> 00:52:18,212
Speaker 2: a refrigerator, got to keep that running twenty four cent.

1140
00:52:18,773 --> 00:52:21,773
Speaker 2: If you're runn an electric oven, that's three to four percent.

1141
00:52:22,213 --> 00:52:26,293
Speaker 2: But your things, like your your lights are actually so

1142
00:52:26,493 --> 00:52:28,173
Speaker 2: lighting is actually still twelve percent.

1143
00:52:28,373 --> 00:52:30,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you just shut everything off and lived

1144
00:52:30,733 --> 00:52:33,173
Speaker 3: in the dark, that's a ten percent saving.

1145
00:52:33,413 --> 00:52:35,493
Speaker 2: But if you just turn off the light in the

1146
00:52:35,533 --> 00:52:38,172
Speaker 2: hallway and the bedrooms and bathrooms when you're not in there,

1147
00:52:38,493 --> 00:52:41,133
Speaker 2: because I think I think the mirrors in our bathrooms

1148
00:52:41,133 --> 00:52:43,613
Speaker 2: are they're lights because you know, the lighted mirror. I

1149
00:52:43,653 --> 00:52:45,853
Speaker 2: think that's on all the time. Very nice. That's sucking

1150
00:52:45,893 --> 00:52:49,933
Speaker 2: some stuff. Dishwasher two percent. Computer one percent. Right, I've

1151
00:52:49,933 --> 00:52:52,813
Speaker 2: been blaming my kids for running video games on their computers.

1152
00:52:52,853 --> 00:52:56,493
Speaker 3: It's only one percent. That oh, eight hundred eighty ten

1153
00:52:56,573 --> 00:52:58,613
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. How are you saving

1154
00:52:58,693 --> 00:53:01,493
Speaker 3: on your powerball? And just this response from this power

1155
00:53:01,493 --> 00:53:04,173
Speaker 3: company to this woman saying we're more clothes? Is that

1156
00:53:04,253 --> 00:53:06,613
Speaker 3: offensive or is that good advice? I love to hear

1157
00:53:06,653 --> 00:53:06,853
Speaker 3: from you.

1158
00:53:06,853 --> 00:53:10,173
Speaker 2: All this, since says, sounds like a horribly snarky comment.

1159
00:53:11,093 --> 00:53:13,293
Speaker 2: I tell you what, I take offense at their profits.

1160
00:53:13,333 --> 00:53:16,133
Speaker 2: This person said, what a disgusting thing to say. But

1161
00:53:16,373 --> 00:53:18,133
Speaker 2: you don't know how it was said that we have

1162
00:53:18,213 --> 00:53:20,853
Speaker 2: these stories. Patricia says that they said we are more clothes.

1163
00:53:21,213 --> 00:53:24,493
Speaker 2: They may have said, look, I don't want you freezing

1164
00:53:24,493 --> 00:53:26,453
Speaker 2: to death. You can't pay the power bill. I'm just

1165
00:53:26,493 --> 00:53:29,652
Speaker 2: working in the call center. It's not it's unlikely to

1166
00:53:29,733 --> 00:53:32,652
Speaker 2: be a standard response across the entire massive corporation. It

1167
00:53:32,693 --> 00:53:34,853
Speaker 2: would just be someone on a call sing to going,

1168
00:53:35,213 --> 00:53:36,973
Speaker 2: have you tried putting on some more clothes?

1169
00:53:37,053 --> 00:53:37,212
Speaker 11: Yep?

1170
00:53:37,293 --> 00:53:40,053
Speaker 3: To keep warm exactly. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty

1171
00:53:40,133 --> 00:53:40,773
Speaker 3: is number to call.

1172
00:53:40,893 --> 00:53:42,253
Speaker 2: Seems like reasonably good advice to me.

1173
00:53:42,493 --> 00:53:43,413
Speaker 3: Twenty three past.

1174
00:53:43,213 --> 00:53:50,573
Speaker 1: Two, MATD Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1175
00:53:50,653 --> 00:53:52,813
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on youth Talk, SAIDB.

1176
00:53:53,013 --> 00:53:55,813
Speaker 3: Afternoon, we are talking about increases and power prices, and

1177
00:53:55,853 --> 00:53:59,013
Speaker 3: a woman who calls herself Patricia no last name, said

1178
00:53:59,053 --> 00:54:00,853
Speaker 3: that she was struggling with a bill called the power

1179
00:54:00,853 --> 00:54:03,413
Speaker 3: company and they said put more clothes on. So is

1180
00:54:03,453 --> 00:54:05,973
Speaker 3: that fear advice or a bit heartless? And also, how

1181
00:54:06,053 --> 00:54:07,813
Speaker 3: are you trying to cut down on your power bill?

1182
00:54:08,453 --> 00:54:10,853
Speaker 2: We don't know how long Patricia was going on to

1183
00:54:10,933 --> 00:54:13,652
Speaker 2: this person. They might really been punishing for a long

1184
00:54:13,693 --> 00:54:15,733
Speaker 2: time on the phone. Patricia might be going, well, my

1185
00:54:15,813 --> 00:54:18,773
Speaker 2: kids are freezing to dad, I need help and you're

1186
00:54:18,813 --> 00:54:21,133
Speaker 2: charging me this I can't pay. There's about and they

1187
00:54:21,213 --> 00:54:22,893
Speaker 2: go good, Ye have you tried putting someone clothes on?

1188
00:54:23,093 --> 00:54:24,573
Speaker 3: You know they were a favor.

1189
00:54:24,573 --> 00:54:27,213
Speaker 2: Maybe the implication is that it was a snarky comment

1190
00:54:27,253 --> 00:54:30,093
Speaker 2: in this article, but you don't know. Allen said, here's

1191
00:54:30,133 --> 00:54:34,173
Speaker 2: the telling thing. July twenty twenty five. Our usage was

1192
00:54:34,333 --> 00:54:36,813
Speaker 2: two thousand, five hundred and thirty one killer watts at

1193
00:54:36,853 --> 00:54:39,413
Speaker 2: eight hundred and ninety six dollars and nineteen cents. I

1194
00:54:39,533 --> 00:54:42,053
Speaker 2: like the accuracy here from Allan got on you go.

1195
00:54:42,973 --> 00:54:46,333
Speaker 2: July twenty twenty four, usage two thousand and seven hundred

1196
00:54:46,453 --> 00:54:50,013
Speaker 2: and seventy eight killer watts eight hundred and fifty five

1197
00:54:50,373 --> 00:54:53,053
Speaker 2: thirty eight. So this year our usage was about nine

1198
00:54:53,093 --> 00:54:55,813
Speaker 2: percent less, but the bill was four point eight percent more.

1199
00:54:55,973 --> 00:54:58,573
Speaker 3: Ah, that is a good deep dive. Good on you, Ellen,

1200
00:54:58,653 --> 00:55:01,933
Speaker 3: great deep dive there. Yeah, and this one. Get a boys.

1201
00:55:01,973 --> 00:55:04,773
Speaker 3: We're in or there's two in our household and are

1202
00:55:04,773 --> 00:55:07,013
Speaker 3: out from eight thirty until six pm Monday to Friday.

1203
00:55:07,053 --> 00:55:09,373
Speaker 3: We have gas hot water over winter, we pay one

1204
00:55:09,453 --> 00:55:11,853
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty bucks a month. Summer we pay about

1205
00:55:11,853 --> 00:55:14,453
Speaker 3: eighty to ninety per bucks per month. We work six

1206
00:55:14,533 --> 00:55:16,373
Speaker 3: days a week in summer. That's pretty good going on

1207
00:55:16,453 --> 00:55:17,493
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty bucks a month.

1208
00:55:18,013 --> 00:55:21,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, the sticks has said you can add a time

1209
00:55:21,493 --> 00:55:24,893
Speaker 2: into your switchboard to heat hot water, drawing off peak times.

1210
00:55:25,653 --> 00:55:27,253
Speaker 2: But you've got to have warm water when you need

1211
00:55:27,253 --> 00:55:28,773
Speaker 2: it as long as long as long as it's not

1212
00:55:28,813 --> 00:55:30,493
Speaker 2: cold when the time you get open. You you love

1213
00:55:30,533 --> 00:55:31,973
Speaker 2: a cold shower, Now, that's a good point. I do.

1214
00:55:32,613 --> 00:55:35,933
Speaker 2: Actually no wonder my bills so low. I don't have

1215
00:55:35,973 --> 00:55:36,813
Speaker 2: hot water showers.

1216
00:55:36,853 --> 00:55:37,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're so.

1217
00:55:38,413 --> 00:55:41,053
Speaker 2: One quarter of the house doesn't have hot water shower.

1218
00:55:41,173 --> 00:55:43,093
Speaker 3: So put on clothes and have cold showers. You'll be

1219
00:55:43,093 --> 00:55:43,893
Speaker 3: good as gold.

1220
00:55:44,933 --> 00:55:45,172
Speaker 15: Liam.

1221
00:55:45,293 --> 00:55:47,613
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. You've got some suggestions for power saving.

1222
00:55:48,893 --> 00:55:55,333
Speaker 2: Oh good, yeah that's correct.

1223
00:55:55,053 --> 00:56:01,653
Speaker 7: Lamb, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Some of these old cold houses.

1224
00:56:02,533 --> 00:56:06,013
Speaker 7: I love the caravan, but some of these old cold

1225
00:56:06,053 --> 00:56:08,013
Speaker 7: houses that you can do is you can set up

1226
00:56:08,013 --> 00:56:10,213
Speaker 7: a team inside the house.

1227
00:56:10,653 --> 00:56:12,613
Speaker 3: Mm hmm yea.

1228
00:56:12,573 --> 00:56:17,653
Speaker 7: And yeah, and now even just running a diesel heater

1229
00:56:19,613 --> 00:56:22,133
Speaker 7: could could be the thing that you had to sort

1230
00:56:22,133 --> 00:56:26,133
Speaker 7: of modify your situations. It's like like creating a campervan

1231
00:56:26,133 --> 00:56:30,973
Speaker 7: inside the house, right, Yeah, I mean.

1232
00:56:31,693 --> 00:56:34,053
Speaker 3: We feel setting up a wee tent in your living

1233
00:56:34,133 --> 00:56:36,373
Speaker 3: room just for a little bit of extra insulation. But

1234
00:56:37,333 --> 00:56:38,493
Speaker 3: I'm sure it would work.

1235
00:56:38,853 --> 00:56:42,293
Speaker 7: You're a young family, it's yeah, get one or two kids.

1236
00:56:43,093 --> 00:56:50,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. I mean, what about blankie blanky, yep, gloves, yeah,

1237
00:56:50,213 --> 00:56:51,893
Speaker 2: little hat. When I was going up to d nice

1238
00:56:51,893 --> 00:56:53,333
Speaker 2: to sleep with a hat on, not like a wee

1239
00:56:53,373 --> 00:56:56,253
Speaker 2: willy winky hat, like not one of those sleeping hats,

1240
00:56:56,253 --> 00:56:59,812
Speaker 2: you know, but I'd sleep in a beanie. Yeah, because

1241
00:56:59,813 --> 00:57:00,933
Speaker 2: it would get so cold at night.

1242
00:57:01,093 --> 00:57:02,853
Speaker 3: It was a pride of place as a student, wasn't it.

1243
00:57:02,893 --> 00:57:04,453
Speaker 3: If you could keep your powerball down to a couple

1244
00:57:04,493 --> 00:57:06,053
Speaker 3: of bucks a week, then you were doing well.

1245
00:57:06,973 --> 00:57:09,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some people are saying, I wonder if that woman

1246
00:57:09,013 --> 00:57:12,093
Speaker 2: that does everything after nine when they're in the in

1247
00:57:12,133 --> 00:57:14,333
Speaker 2: the in the cheap power zone, is that when you

1248
00:57:14,373 --> 00:57:17,853
Speaker 2: plug all your phones and everything just suck the grid dry.

1249
00:57:18,053 --> 00:57:21,493
Speaker 2: Like charge your your drill, charge absolutely everything.

1250
00:57:21,173 --> 00:57:22,973
Speaker 3: Take advantage even if you don't need it. Get the

1251
00:57:23,053 --> 00:57:24,853
Speaker 3: drill running, get everything crank in.

1252
00:57:25,093 --> 00:57:27,933
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what because I got given recently, like

1253
00:57:28,013 --> 00:57:31,813
Speaker 2: a generator, but it's a charging generators, just a battery

1254
00:57:31,893 --> 00:57:32,813
Speaker 2: for camping, like.

1255
00:57:32,733 --> 00:57:33,253
Speaker 3: A power bank.

1256
00:57:33,373 --> 00:57:35,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a bit, a big one, a huge one.

1257
00:57:36,013 --> 00:57:39,213
Speaker 2: Trying to remember the firm. It's fantastic product. But charge

1258
00:57:39,253 --> 00:57:42,493
Speaker 2: that up, yeah, charge that up in the in that

1259
00:57:42,733 --> 00:57:43,613
Speaker 2: and that after.

1260
00:57:43,493 --> 00:57:45,773
Speaker 3: Nine h they will keep your fridg running for a while.

1261
00:57:45,893 --> 00:57:49,893
Speaker 3: Let's go and then bug your Oh eighty is the

1262
00:57:50,013 --> 00:57:53,013
Speaker 3: number to call. We've got headlines coming up, and then

1263
00:57:53,053 --> 00:57:55,173
Speaker 3: plenty of more calls coming through.

1264
00:57:55,533 --> 00:57:57,893
Speaker 2: Bob says. Bottom line, there is no real competition, so

1265
00:57:57,933 --> 00:58:00,893
Speaker 2: providers have all the power and no care for their customers.

1266
00:58:01,013 --> 00:58:04,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely see it. It is twenty nine past two.

1267
00:58:05,893 --> 00:58:07,373
Speaker 4: U talks the headlines.

1268
00:58:07,853 --> 00:58:10,533
Speaker 19: Buble X sees it's no trouble with a blue bubble.

1269
00:58:11,053 --> 00:58:14,533
Speaker 19: Change is coming for the supermarket duopoly. The government has

1270
00:58:14,573 --> 00:58:19,813
Speaker 19: just announced it will remove barriers preventing competition supermarkets from

1271
00:58:19,853 --> 00:58:23,293
Speaker 19: launching or expanding in New Zealand. It's agreed to fast

1272
00:58:23,333 --> 00:58:27,493
Speaker 19: track new supermarkets it would improve competition. A person is

1273
00:58:27,533 --> 00:58:30,493
Speaker 19: in a serious condition after falling down an old mine

1274
00:58:30,533 --> 00:58:34,493
Speaker 19: shaft east of Greymouth on the West Coast. Emergency services

1275
00:58:34,493 --> 00:58:37,413
Speaker 19: and dock staff pulled the person from the Tyneside mine

1276
00:58:37,453 --> 00:58:40,653
Speaker 19: on the banks of Gray River. Residents in a rural

1277
00:58:40,733 --> 00:58:43,893
Speaker 19: Victorian town are being told to hunker down as police

1278
00:58:43,933 --> 00:58:47,213
Speaker 19: continue to search for a gunman who killed two police officers.

1279
00:58:47,573 --> 00:58:50,893
Speaker 19: The incident happened during a raid on a property in Poorpunker.

1280
00:58:51,733 --> 00:58:55,813
Speaker 19: The sbca's long fought battle has more restrictions on dog

1281
00:58:55,893 --> 00:58:59,693
Speaker 19: tethering has paid off. New regulations ban owners from tying

1282
00:58:59,773 --> 00:59:02,133
Speaker 19: up a dog with a rope, chain or line for

1283
00:59:02,213 --> 00:59:05,893
Speaker 19: extended periods. People going fishing are being urged to wear

1284
00:59:05,893 --> 00:59:08,733
Speaker 19: a life jacket, even if they're fishing off rocks. A

1285
00:59:08,813 --> 00:59:12,453
Speaker 19: Coronia report into three deaths at Raglan highlights none of

1286
00:59:12,453 --> 00:59:16,493
Speaker 19: those involved were wearing life jackets. Plus something needs to

1287
00:59:16,533 --> 00:59:20,493
Speaker 19: happen and quick closing bar owners warning for napier Read

1288
00:59:20,533 --> 00:59:22,293
Speaker 19: more at enzd Herald's premium.

1289
00:59:22,413 --> 00:59:23,693
Speaker 2: Now back to Mason Tyler.

1290
00:59:23,733 --> 00:59:26,813
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy. So we're talking about power price.

1291
00:59:26,853 --> 00:59:28,933
Speaker 3: Who's going through the roof for a lot of people.

1292
00:59:28,973 --> 00:59:31,093
Speaker 3: When one woman was told by her power company, if

1293
00:59:31,133 --> 00:59:32,533
Speaker 3: you want to save a bit of money, just put

1294
00:59:32,573 --> 00:59:33,133
Speaker 3: some more clothes on.

1295
00:59:33,773 --> 00:59:35,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some people have got offended about that. People

1296
00:59:35,933 --> 00:59:38,573
Speaker 2: are angry that they would say that to a person.

1297
00:59:38,973 --> 00:59:40,533
Speaker 2: I personally think it's just good advice and it was

1298
00:59:40,573 --> 00:59:42,853
Speaker 2: advice that my dad gave me on the daily in

1299
00:59:42,893 --> 00:59:44,893
Speaker 2: the winter growing up and Tonedin. But we were talking

1300
00:59:44,893 --> 00:59:47,653
Speaker 2: to Helen before and she has one of those deals

1301
00:59:47,653 --> 00:59:51,213
Speaker 2: where you pay less than certain hours. Right, yes, so

1302
00:59:51,493 --> 00:59:53,413
Speaker 2: nine till twelve? I mean, is there a limit of

1303
00:59:53,573 --> 00:59:55,093
Speaker 2: how much power you can suck out of the grid

1304
00:59:55,093 --> 00:59:59,253
Speaker 2: at that point? Because you know what about running extension

1305
00:59:59,253 --> 01:00:02,173
Speaker 2: cards out to the neighbor's house and running subletting the

1306
01:00:02,213 --> 01:00:02,653
Speaker 2: power out.

1307
01:00:02,733 --> 01:00:05,293
Speaker 3: Now you're thinking, now, you're thinking the whole neighborhood just

1308
01:00:05,333 --> 01:00:06,733
Speaker 3: keeping get an operation, go go hard.

1309
01:00:06,733 --> 01:00:10,133
Speaker 2: At nine o'clock, You've got extension cords running in every direction,

1310
01:00:10,493 --> 01:00:13,893
Speaker 2: you've got everything plugged in, all your phones, everything you run,

1311
01:00:14,573 --> 01:00:17,933
Speaker 2: you run like an echo flow. Portable power station. You

1312
01:00:17,973 --> 01:00:19,973
Speaker 2: plug that in and suck the grid dry with that,

1313
01:00:20,053 --> 01:00:24,053
Speaker 2: and then run your refrigerator off that for twenty four hours.

1314
01:00:24,333 --> 01:00:26,373
Speaker 3: Take advantage. I mean, if the power company comes to

1315
01:00:26,373 --> 01:00:28,413
Speaker 3: you and see is you're sucking more power than a

1316
01:00:28,413 --> 01:00:29,893
Speaker 3: small city, say tough luck.

1317
01:00:30,173 --> 01:00:32,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a narrow power. Hey, guys, how about we

1318
01:00:32,093 --> 01:00:35,333
Speaker 2: talk about the truth. New Zealand is just getting greedy

1319
01:00:35,333 --> 01:00:37,653
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. We shouldn't be having to put

1320
01:00:37,693 --> 01:00:40,373
Speaker 2: on more clothes to keep warm. I'm sorry, but if

1321
01:00:40,973 --> 01:00:43,573
Speaker 2: the people don't stand up and start pushing back, then

1322
01:00:43,613 --> 01:00:46,013
Speaker 2: soon there won't be in New Zealand as we know it.

1323
01:00:46,133 --> 01:00:49,533
Speaker 2: Cheers Todd. Yeah, but I mean can't you aren't you

1324
01:00:49,573 --> 01:00:52,213
Speaker 2: pushing back by not using the product as well? I

1325
01:00:52,293 --> 01:00:53,813
Speaker 2: mean that's a good way to push back. Yeah, Like

1326
01:00:54,333 --> 01:00:58,573
Speaker 2: I mean, is it really raging against the machine pumping

1327
01:00:58,613 --> 01:01:00,933
Speaker 2: up the heat pump while you sit there in a SINGI.

1328
01:01:01,813 --> 01:01:03,853
Speaker 3: Watching It's a hell of a revolution.

1329
01:01:03,653 --> 01:01:07,533
Speaker 2: Watching your four hundred inch television. Cartier, welcome the show.

1330
01:01:07,533 --> 01:01:08,933
Speaker 2: You've got some warm up techniques?

1331
01:01:10,173 --> 01:01:16,253
Speaker 25: Yes, hello everyone, So at home, we really put clothes on.

1332
01:01:16,333 --> 01:01:18,333
Speaker 25: But I mean, when I'm talking about clothes on, is

1333
01:01:18,373 --> 01:01:22,733
Speaker 25: the a vest, a T shirt and a jumper right

1334
01:01:22,973 --> 01:01:26,813
Speaker 25: or hoodie, and we basically live like that. Even when

1335
01:01:26,813 --> 01:01:28,573
Speaker 25: we go out in and out if it's raining, you

1336
01:01:28,613 --> 01:01:32,533
Speaker 25: put a drain jacket. But inside the household though it's cold,

1337
01:01:33,213 --> 01:01:37,333
Speaker 25: we sort of manage. When I'm working from home in

1338
01:01:37,333 --> 01:01:41,573
Speaker 25: the garage, I just switch on really the humidifier, which

1339
01:01:41,653 --> 01:01:45,493
Speaker 25: not only helps me dry my clothes but also keeps

1340
01:01:45,533 --> 01:01:51,253
Speaker 25: it quite warmish. And at night we switch on the

1341
01:01:51,253 --> 01:01:54,853
Speaker 25: oven and that basically I got a small house, so

1342
01:01:55,053 --> 01:01:57,973
Speaker 25: it warms out all the living area and we cook.

1343
01:01:58,813 --> 01:02:03,293
Speaker 25: We also take advantage of the day free electricity, and

1344
01:02:03,333 --> 01:02:09,213
Speaker 25: that day definitely I pump mostly the dryer and obviously

1345
01:02:09,253 --> 01:02:12,453
Speaker 25: the oven, and everything happens. And normally I choose a

1346
01:02:12,453 --> 01:02:16,373
Speaker 25: weekend day. But during the day, even when I'm working

1347
01:02:16,413 --> 01:02:18,653
Speaker 25: from home, like I said, and I feeling cold, I

1348
01:02:18,733 --> 01:02:21,893
Speaker 25: put a blanket on my legs. I'm working with my

1349
01:02:22,053 --> 01:02:26,093
Speaker 25: jumper and my jacket on. And yeah, I don't use

1350
01:02:26,213 --> 01:02:28,573
Speaker 25: I don't use the heaters, not because I don't want

1351
01:02:28,613 --> 01:02:29,133
Speaker 25: to one.

1352
01:02:29,253 --> 01:02:30,013
Speaker 13: I don't have one.

1353
01:02:30,093 --> 01:02:33,093
Speaker 25: I only have a heat pump in my lunge, but

1354
01:02:33,293 --> 01:02:36,533
Speaker 25: it used to dry my nostrils and I used to

1355
01:02:36,573 --> 01:02:38,613
Speaker 25: get more sinustritis.

1356
01:02:39,053 --> 01:02:45,253
Speaker 3: Right than ever, how many people in your house, Katya?

1357
01:02:45,413 --> 01:02:48,733
Speaker 25: We are to adults, two children, and how many children?

1358
01:02:48,733 --> 01:02:51,013
Speaker 2: Two adults and how many children two?

1359
01:02:51,573 --> 01:02:53,973
Speaker 25: Two of them two underpins, So there's four of.

1360
01:02:53,933 --> 01:02:56,293
Speaker 2: You in your house. And if you don't mind me

1361
01:02:56,333 --> 01:02:58,733
Speaker 2: asking sort of roughly, how much is your monthly power?

1362
01:02:58,773 --> 01:03:01,013
Speaker 2: But with these methods you put onto save a bit

1363
01:03:01,053 --> 01:03:02,613
Speaker 2: of power one.

1364
01:03:02,533 --> 01:03:05,253
Speaker 25: Hundred and ten in winter and eighteen summers.

1365
01:03:05,413 --> 01:03:09,333
Speaker 3: Wow? Wow, well there so just wow, that's very good.

1366
01:03:09,373 --> 01:03:11,893
Speaker 3: Explain to me the oven situation. So do you open

1367
01:03:11,933 --> 01:03:14,013
Speaker 3: it up as a hate source or this is just

1368
01:03:14,053 --> 01:03:16,213
Speaker 3: when you're cooking and it hates out the lounge?

1369
01:03:17,173 --> 01:03:19,653
Speaker 25: Yep, when I'm cooking, I just reached out the oven.

1370
01:03:19,733 --> 01:03:23,053
Speaker 25: We close the We only always leave windows open, at

1371
01:03:23,133 --> 01:03:25,493
Speaker 25: least one of them, or right, like to ventilate the

1372
01:03:25,573 --> 01:03:25,973
Speaker 25: whole thing.

1373
01:03:27,173 --> 01:03:29,973
Speaker 12: But it's just mainly the oven.

1374
01:03:30,653 --> 01:03:31,813
Speaker 13: Up until two hundred.

1375
01:03:32,373 --> 01:03:33,013
Speaker 26: We cook, We.

1376
01:03:33,133 --> 01:03:36,453
Speaker 12: Bake whatever we need to, let's say, from five.

1377
01:03:36,253 --> 01:03:39,133
Speaker 25: O'clock top seven a couple of hours and that's it,

1378
01:03:39,733 --> 01:03:41,653
Speaker 25: and the house remains. By that time, the kids are

1379
01:03:41,653 --> 01:03:45,613
Speaker 25: already in the bedrooms getting ready to sleep. And if

1380
01:03:45,613 --> 01:03:48,133
Speaker 25: we go, we don't. Husband and I just put our

1381
01:03:48,213 --> 01:03:52,453
Speaker 25: pjs and uh our bathrobes or our.

1382
01:03:52,333 --> 01:03:53,333
Speaker 13: Ropes and that's it.

1383
01:03:53,373 --> 01:03:58,893
Speaker 25: So yeah, socks obviously winter pjs. Yeah, I had to

1384
01:03:58,973 --> 01:04:01,173
Speaker 25: learn to adjust. I was one of them that I

1385
01:04:01,253 --> 01:04:03,533
Speaker 25: used to just heat it a lot until I was

1386
01:04:03,573 --> 01:04:06,773
Speaker 25: getting too sick with my sign notes. Right, and that

1387
01:04:06,933 --> 01:04:08,293
Speaker 25: was one of the major issues.

1388
01:04:08,573 --> 01:04:09,773
Speaker 2: Right, So it wasn't such a power thing.

1389
01:04:10,573 --> 01:04:10,693
Speaker 13: Hap.

1390
01:04:10,733 --> 01:04:13,733
Speaker 2: BIG's your house if you don't mind me asking, Katia.

1391
01:04:14,653 --> 01:04:17,493
Speaker 25: Three bedroomsoms bright size.

1392
01:04:17,533 --> 01:04:19,213
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's a big size. Well there you go.

1393
01:04:19,253 --> 01:04:21,333
Speaker 2: Look at that one hundred and ten bucks a week.

1394
01:04:21,573 --> 01:04:26,573
Speaker 3: She's cracked it. Yeah, live like Cartier. Yeah, little blanky blanky, Yeah,

1395
01:04:26,733 --> 01:04:27,533
Speaker 3: sheeps can blinky.

1396
01:04:27,613 --> 01:04:30,613
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Don't don't poo poo the blanky

1397
01:04:30,653 --> 01:04:33,653
Speaker 2: on the couch, watch blanky blankie on the couch watching

1398
01:04:33,693 --> 01:04:34,333
Speaker 2: a horror movie.

1399
01:04:34,413 --> 01:04:36,333
Speaker 3: Yep, the wee woodie. Is it what they call it?

1400
01:04:36,413 --> 01:04:39,253
Speaker 2: Louis Onesie, You're and the missus under a blanking on

1401
01:04:39,293 --> 01:04:42,293
Speaker 2: the couch. It doesn't have to be all about power

1402
01:04:42,293 --> 01:04:43,653
Speaker 2: saving romantic yeah.

1403
01:04:43,773 --> 01:04:46,013
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh. Eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is a

1404
01:04:46,093 --> 01:04:48,533
Speaker 3: number to call. It is twenty one to three.

1405
01:04:49,293 --> 01:04:51,733
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1406
01:04:51,773 --> 01:04:55,653
Speaker 1: along the way Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks,

1407
01:04:55,693 --> 01:04:56,093
Speaker 1: they'd be.

1408
01:04:56,733 --> 01:04:59,533
Speaker 3: It is nineteen to three and we're talking about power prices.

1409
01:04:59,653 --> 01:05:01,333
Speaker 3: Is it okay for the power company to tell you

1410
01:05:01,373 --> 01:05:03,893
Speaker 3: as a way to save money to wrap up and

1411
01:05:03,933 --> 01:05:07,133
Speaker 3: put some more layers on. That's what one woman was told,

1412
01:05:07,173 --> 01:05:08,853
Speaker 3: and a lot of people teaching through on the ways

1413
01:05:08,893 --> 01:05:10,373
Speaker 3: that they save power at the moment.

1414
01:05:10,653 --> 01:05:12,333
Speaker 2: I'm a pinsionar and go to the gym at least

1415
01:05:12,333 --> 01:05:14,373
Speaker 2: three to four times a week, hence only share at

1416
01:05:14,373 --> 01:05:17,173
Speaker 2: home approximately twice a week. I think minimal use of

1417
01:05:17,213 --> 01:05:19,973
Speaker 2: the hot water keeps bill down, bills down, and yes,

1418
01:05:20,173 --> 01:05:22,973
Speaker 2: we'd put on an extra layer before putting heating on,

1419
01:05:23,173 --> 01:05:27,813
Speaker 2: especially during the day. Keep moving. Yeah, there's so many

1420
01:05:27,813 --> 01:05:30,453
Speaker 2: people ticking through that they absolutely punish the power at

1421
01:05:30,453 --> 01:05:34,773
Speaker 2: the gym as you should do you ironing. There's a

1422
01:05:34,813 --> 01:05:37,093
Speaker 2: guy in my gym that lion is completely nude and

1423
01:05:37,133 --> 01:05:41,773
Speaker 2: he'll stand there I'm going through the changing room. Yeah,

1424
01:05:41,853 --> 01:05:44,453
Speaker 2: I'm like, I mean, go for your life, mate. I mean,

1425
01:05:44,733 --> 01:05:48,093
Speaker 2: I'm not prudish, but I mean generally i'd pull on

1426
01:05:48,133 --> 01:05:49,813
Speaker 2: my box of shorts before I do the full line.

1427
01:05:49,893 --> 01:05:52,133
Speaker 3: It's quite a bold thing to do ironing in the

1428
01:05:52,213 --> 01:05:52,893
Speaker 3: nutty at the gym.

1429
01:05:52,973 --> 01:05:55,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, Greg, welcome to the show.

1430
01:05:56,213 --> 01:05:58,533
Speaker 23: Yeah, hi guys, show's very good.

1431
01:05:58,573 --> 01:05:59,213
Speaker 2: Thanks mate.

1432
01:05:59,693 --> 01:06:03,733
Speaker 23: We've bought an no heating nosilation in the middle of

1433
01:06:03,813 --> 01:06:07,693
Speaker 23: winter and we were walking around like we hear poor

1434
01:06:07,773 --> 01:06:10,933
Speaker 23: Jersey on you forget what it was like in the

1435
01:06:11,133 --> 01:06:12,813
Speaker 23: good old days. You know, this has hadn't been touch

1436
01:06:12,853 --> 01:06:15,493
Speaker 23: for seventy ideas we f thought born it. So yeah,

1437
01:06:15,653 --> 01:06:17,973
Speaker 23: it was so cold it was ridiculous.

1438
01:06:17,973 --> 01:06:20,133
Speaker 2: Were about saying, agreed in the country.

1439
01:06:20,453 --> 01:06:21,853
Speaker 23: We're in life for two and lot.

1440
01:06:22,213 --> 01:06:25,093
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

1441
01:06:24,373 --> 01:06:28,413
Speaker 23: You get cold once you get warm warm. We we

1442
01:06:28,413 --> 01:06:30,813
Speaker 23: we were sitting forget things with the power bell, the

1443
01:06:30,853 --> 01:06:33,333
Speaker 23: power company. We paid one hundred and ten dollars a week,

1444
01:06:34,693 --> 01:06:36,493
Speaker 23: and we've been looking with pretty things are pretty tiled

1445
01:06:36,613 --> 01:06:38,453
Speaker 23: moments or we've been looking at the power all pretty cute,

1446
01:06:38,453 --> 01:06:40,733
Speaker 23: see nothing, nothing seemed to be moving to be so

1447
01:06:40,813 --> 01:06:44,133
Speaker 23: wondering what everyone was contained about. And then last month

1448
01:06:44,173 --> 01:06:49,093
Speaker 23: we've got my eleven hundred dollars bill. Yeh'd be I'd been.

1449
01:06:49,013 --> 01:06:52,573
Speaker 2: Estimating, right, yeah, yeah, And.

1450
01:06:52,493 --> 01:06:54,653
Speaker 23: So that eleven hundred dollars is such a seven hundred

1451
01:06:54,693 --> 01:06:57,213
Speaker 23: dollars short than three months from what we paid last year.

1452
01:06:57,253 --> 01:06:59,853
Speaker 23: So that's how much the power bills.

1453
01:06:59,173 --> 01:07:02,253
Speaker 2: That bags me because that's the mistake. The estimation is

1454
01:07:02,293 --> 01:07:05,773
Speaker 2: the mistake, you know, in a way definitely for you

1455
01:07:05,813 --> 01:07:07,733
Speaker 2: to just sit with eleven hundred dollars, that's rough.

1456
01:07:08,893 --> 01:07:09,453
Speaker 27: It's not.

1457
01:07:09,813 --> 01:07:11,533
Speaker 23: We're not happy. So we now we're paying two hundred

1458
01:07:11,533 --> 01:07:13,013
Speaker 23: dollars a week until we sort of catch up.

1459
01:07:13,053 --> 01:07:13,253
Speaker 17: You know.

1460
01:07:13,533 --> 01:07:15,773
Speaker 23: One thing I would say though, because this house didn't

1461
01:07:15,813 --> 01:07:17,573
Speaker 23: have insulation when we first bought it. We put on

1462
01:07:17,573 --> 01:07:21,653
Speaker 23: the radiator system, which is fantastic, but as as we

1463
01:07:21,693 --> 01:07:23,933
Speaker 23: couldn't put insulation in the walls until we're doing it,

1464
01:07:24,093 --> 01:07:29,093
Speaker 23: thrum up. And the rooms in the house that haven't

1465
01:07:29,133 --> 01:07:31,813
Speaker 23: got insulation, the radiators are tuned right up to five.

1466
01:07:32,533 --> 01:07:35,053
Speaker 23: The rooms that we have done, we can turn the

1467
01:07:35,093 --> 01:07:37,693
Speaker 23: radiator down to one and it's just as warm as

1468
01:07:37,693 --> 01:07:40,933
Speaker 23: the other road. So that showed how much of insulation

1469
01:07:40,973 --> 01:07:43,173
Speaker 23: on the walls. We did the ceiling and we did

1470
01:07:43,173 --> 01:07:46,173
Speaker 23: the floor, but I think the walls just as much

1471
01:07:46,413 --> 01:07:51,093
Speaker 23: much difference, you know, it's quite quite different.

1472
01:07:51,173 --> 01:07:54,133
Speaker 2: So I had a friend that that just did a

1473
01:07:54,173 --> 01:07:57,453
Speaker 2: reno on a massive house and got you know, double

1474
01:07:57,493 --> 01:08:02,453
Speaker 2: glazing in the full modern house renovations and essentially he

1475
01:08:02,613 --> 01:08:04,573
Speaker 2: lights in a koyir candle to make the place smell

1476
01:08:04,653 --> 01:08:07,053
Speaker 2: good in and the place is warm. I mean, we

1477
01:08:07,133 --> 01:08:10,253
Speaker 2: waste so much money with just heating it and it

1478
01:08:10,413 --> 01:08:13,453
Speaker 2: just going going out through the windows and out, you know.

1479
01:08:14,133 --> 01:08:16,013
Speaker 2: So insulation, if you can get it done, is so

1480
01:08:16,213 --> 01:08:17,333
Speaker 2: very very important. Obviously.

1481
01:08:17,412 --> 01:08:22,133
Speaker 23: Yeah, obviously in the walls, because we've got a villa

1482
01:08:22,133 --> 01:08:24,133
Speaker 23: of the messages, high ceilings. We day if she paid,

1483
01:08:24,532 --> 01:08:27,412
Speaker 23: call the heat and call the house summer because all

1484
01:08:27,412 --> 01:08:29,253
Speaker 23: the heat obviously rises, so we don't have to pay

1485
01:08:29,293 --> 01:08:32,293
Speaker 23: free conditioning in the summer, which sort of balances it out.

1486
01:08:32,293 --> 01:08:34,253
Speaker 23: Where you find these modern houses, they'll be cranking the

1487
01:08:34,333 --> 01:08:36,732
Speaker 23: condition up to try and keep cool, you know. So

1488
01:08:36,732 --> 01:08:38,013
Speaker 23: there's a little bit of us there.

1489
01:08:38,293 --> 01:08:40,133
Speaker 2: Yes, what do you think about Liam who rang before?

1490
01:08:40,133 --> 01:08:42,532
Speaker 2: Her suggestion was that you put up a tent in

1491
01:08:42,572 --> 01:08:46,812
Speaker 2: the lounge? You put up the we're a caller before

1492
01:08:46,812 --> 01:08:49,812
Speaker 2: who suggested that you pitch a tent in your lounge

1493
01:08:49,973 --> 01:08:50,612
Speaker 2: to keep warm.

1494
01:08:53,293 --> 01:08:54,372
Speaker 3: That was our response as well.

1495
01:08:56,933 --> 01:08:58,492
Speaker 23: Much good with three duds on in the middle of

1496
01:08:58,492 --> 01:08:58,772
Speaker 23: the winter.

1497
01:08:58,853 --> 01:09:01,412
Speaker 6: I can tell you that, yes, you.

1498
01:09:01,532 --> 01:09:04,133
Speaker 2: Just lower us up a little bit to watch the TV. Yes,

1499
01:09:04,853 --> 01:09:06,333
Speaker 2: look out through the fly at the TV.

1500
01:09:06,973 --> 01:09:07,932
Speaker 3: Who needs to go camping?

1501
01:09:08,333 --> 01:09:10,253
Speaker 2: Thanks for that, Greg, and throwing here about that eleven

1502
01:09:10,333 --> 01:09:11,652
Speaker 2: hundred dollars bill that blows.

1503
01:09:11,853 --> 01:09:13,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big one. I'll tell you what. We

1504
01:09:13,853 --> 01:09:15,732
Speaker 3: had a palid fire down in our christ Tub's place

1505
01:09:15,853 --> 01:09:18,972
Speaker 3: that was amazing. That cranked the heat super cheap to run.

1506
01:09:19,213 --> 01:09:20,973
Speaker 3: But also, as you say, Matt, I mean that it

1507
01:09:21,013 --> 01:09:23,253
Speaker 3: was insulated up the wazoo and it was almost too

1508
01:09:23,333 --> 01:09:25,892
Speaker 3: much in winter keeping that fire cranking. But there's something

1509
01:09:26,053 --> 01:09:28,652
Speaker 3: about a fire that is just nice. Yeah, a lot

1510
01:09:28,692 --> 01:09:31,772
Speaker 3: of people teaching that through. Get a wood burner, Yeah,

1511
01:09:31,772 --> 01:09:32,732
Speaker 3: wood burner all the way.

1512
01:09:33,333 --> 01:09:35,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you what about coal burner? Can you get

1513
01:09:35,732 --> 01:09:36,572
Speaker 2: the call back on there?

1514
01:09:37,093 --> 01:09:39,652
Speaker 3: We love New Zealand coal. We love New Zealand coal.

1515
01:09:40,053 --> 01:09:42,093
Speaker 3: All right, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1516
01:09:42,173 --> 01:09:45,893
Speaker 3: the number to call. Cliff. You've got a bit of

1517
01:09:45,893 --> 01:09:46,932
Speaker 3: a tip for people out there.

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01:09:48,253 --> 01:09:50,053
Speaker 28: Well, I don't know if it's a tip, it's more

1519
01:09:50,053 --> 01:09:53,652
Speaker 28: of a query really. I was watching YouTube the other night,

1520
01:09:53,732 --> 01:09:57,652
Speaker 28: as you do, and an ad came on and there

1521
01:09:57,692 --> 01:10:00,612
Speaker 28: was this device for about forty dollars that you plug

1522
01:10:00,652 --> 01:10:06,492
Speaker 28: into just any power switching your house and apparently it

1523
01:10:06,652 --> 01:10:09,732
Speaker 28: saves you up to fifty percent or more on your

1524
01:10:09,732 --> 01:10:13,692
Speaker 28: power BELI every month. And the premise was that the

1525
01:10:13,692 --> 01:10:18,572
Speaker 28: power delivered to your house postals and surges and your

1526
01:10:18,572 --> 01:10:22,852
Speaker 28: appliances get more power than they actually need to operate,

1527
01:10:23,053 --> 01:10:26,053
Speaker 28: but you're paying for it. And apparently this device just

1528
01:10:26,572 --> 01:10:28,972
Speaker 28: even for the flow off. And they gave a whole

1529
01:10:28,973 --> 01:10:33,173
Speaker 28: pile of examples of people who'd saved fifty to sixty

1530
01:10:33,213 --> 01:10:34,493
Speaker 28: percent on their powerfuls.

1531
01:10:34,692 --> 01:10:34,972
Speaker 4: Wow.

1532
01:10:35,053 --> 01:10:36,852
Speaker 2: So I'm just looking at one here. I think this

1533
01:10:36,893 --> 01:10:41,213
Speaker 2: is so it's an energy saving power unit. So what

1534
01:10:41,253 --> 01:10:44,092
Speaker 2: it does stabilizes the voltage, reduce the current and improve

1535
01:10:44,173 --> 01:10:50,612
Speaker 2: the power supply factor in all directions, prevent vaultage unstability.

1536
01:10:50,933 --> 01:10:54,492
Speaker 2: The product is equipped with anti convex wave device to

1537
01:10:54,532 --> 01:10:59,293
Speaker 2: prevent the current convex wave and protect it alex of Okay,

1538
01:10:59,333 --> 01:11:01,253
Speaker 2: well that's the surgertic de part of it there. But

1539
01:11:01,372 --> 01:11:03,133
Speaker 2: that's that's really interesting, so high tech.

1540
01:11:03,572 --> 01:11:07,372
Speaker 28: Yeah, I don't know, does anybody bought one and had

1541
01:11:07,372 --> 01:11:08,093
Speaker 28: a result with it.

1542
01:11:08,333 --> 01:11:10,372
Speaker 2: We've got an electrician listening. I wait, one hundred eighty

1543
01:11:10,372 --> 01:11:13,053
Speaker 2: ten eighty is this a real thing that Clive's seen

1544
01:11:13,093 --> 01:11:13,652
Speaker 2: on YouTube?

1545
01:11:13,732 --> 01:11:15,812
Speaker 3: Give us a review. Yeah, yeah, thanks for that. Clive

1546
01:11:16,572 --> 01:11:18,213
Speaker 3: O eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is a number

1547
01:11:18,213 --> 01:11:20,213
Speaker 3: to call. A lot of people texting about Solar as well.

1548
01:11:20,572 --> 01:11:23,652
Speaker 3: Get a guys, please don't use my name, but we

1549
01:11:23,812 --> 01:11:27,213
Speaker 3: recently installed solar and it's been an absolute game changer.

1550
01:11:27,293 --> 01:11:30,293
Speaker 3: We love it and our power bills have completely dropped

1551
01:11:30,333 --> 01:11:33,372
Speaker 3: through the floor. Get onto the Solar. I don't know

1552
01:11:33,412 --> 01:11:34,653
Speaker 3: why they wanted to stay anonymous.

1553
01:11:36,492 --> 01:11:40,572
Speaker 2: Shocking information there, anti anti solar legal will come for them,

1554
01:11:40,772 --> 01:11:43,732
Speaker 2: coming for those people who take advantage of the gym

1555
01:11:43,732 --> 01:11:47,652
Speaker 2: power are disgusting. My friend and I have to wait

1556
01:11:47,652 --> 01:11:50,013
Speaker 2: for showers forever while these selfish people stay in the

1557
01:11:50,053 --> 01:11:52,893
Speaker 2: showers way too long. But I think I don't know

1558
01:11:52,933 --> 01:11:57,333
Speaker 2: if that's people taking advantage of the gym power situation.

1559
01:11:57,692 --> 01:12:00,612
Speaker 2: I mean just people that take really really long showers

1560
01:12:00,612 --> 01:12:03,452
Speaker 2: at the gym are selfish, right, Yeah, if just someone's waiting,

1561
01:12:03,933 --> 01:12:06,692
Speaker 2: I mean, you can do a shower, and what's the

1562
01:12:06,732 --> 01:12:09,253
Speaker 2: fastest shower? You could probably do forty five seconds? Yeah,

1563
01:12:09,452 --> 01:12:10,772
Speaker 2: just a quick once over the key.

1564
01:12:10,692 --> 01:12:12,612
Speaker 3: Here is yeah, let her up before you get in,

1565
01:12:12,772 --> 01:12:15,932
Speaker 3: jump in, splash it about through the bats out.

1566
01:12:16,213 --> 01:12:18,173
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I had a flatmate that used to

1567
01:12:18,253 --> 01:12:21,572
Speaker 2: take you hour long showers, and I once couldn't take

1568
01:12:21,572 --> 01:12:22,692
Speaker 2: it any more. So I kicked on the door and

1569
01:12:22,732 --> 01:12:24,853
Speaker 2: he was sitting there on a chair smoking a cigarette,

1570
01:12:25,372 --> 01:12:27,333
Speaker 2: had a sandwich in one hand and a cigarette in

1571
01:12:27,333 --> 01:12:27,612
Speaker 2: the other.

1572
01:12:27,692 --> 01:12:29,173
Speaker 3: You couldn't even be angry at him for that.

1573
01:12:29,612 --> 01:12:32,293
Speaker 2: I was angry. What a good man?

1574
01:12:32,853 --> 01:12:34,532
Speaker 3: All right, terrible man.

1575
01:12:34,532 --> 01:12:36,293
Speaker 2: If you're listening to general, I.

1576
01:12:36,253 --> 01:12:38,333
Speaker 3: Hade hundred eighty ten eighty is number to call it

1577
01:12:38,452 --> 01:12:40,053
Speaker 3: eleven two three.

1578
01:12:41,093 --> 01:12:43,532
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1579
01:12:43,572 --> 01:12:47,093
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used

1580
01:12:47,133 --> 01:12:47,892
Speaker 1: talk said.

1581
01:12:47,732 --> 01:12:47,812
Speaker 14: Be.

1582
01:12:49,532 --> 01:12:51,852
Speaker 3: Afternoon. It is eight to three, and we're talking about

1583
01:12:51,893 --> 01:12:54,253
Speaker 3: ways that you're trying to save power with the price

1584
01:12:54,253 --> 01:12:55,892
Speaker 3: of it at the moment. I hade hundred eighty ten

1585
01:12:55,933 --> 01:12:56,732
Speaker 3: eighties number to call.

1586
01:12:56,973 --> 01:12:59,492
Speaker 2: And Jake's got a suggestion. People don't need to shower

1587
01:12:59,492 --> 01:13:01,492
Speaker 2: every day. Surely I shower twice a week and have

1588
01:13:01,532 --> 01:13:09,333
Speaker 2: saved heaps of coin, probably why I'm single. We've got

1589
01:13:09,333 --> 01:13:11,132
Speaker 2: a sparky. Are you a sparky called Sparky?

1590
01:13:12,973 --> 01:13:14,052
Speaker 6: Are you calling with sparky?

1591
01:13:14,133 --> 01:13:14,412
Speaker 14: Mate?

1592
01:13:15,532 --> 01:13:20,492
Speaker 2: So so this this this power saving, power saving energy

1593
01:13:20,572 --> 01:13:23,692
Speaker 2: saving device that you plug into your socket. What's the

1594
01:13:23,732 --> 01:13:24,532
Speaker 2: deal with those things?

1595
01:13:25,692 --> 01:13:28,893
Speaker 6: It's right the bollocks straight.

1596
01:13:28,652 --> 01:13:31,053
Speaker 7: Up, straight up there.

1597
01:13:32,053 --> 01:13:34,213
Speaker 6: Everything you're plugging is going to create more loads on

1598
01:13:34,293 --> 01:13:36,772
Speaker 6: the vious thickets if you're if you really want to

1599
01:13:36,893 --> 01:13:39,492
Speaker 6: correct power factor correction, which is kind of what they're

1600
01:13:39,532 --> 01:13:41,812
Speaker 6: talking about, the whole bunch of big words that know,

1601
01:13:41,933 --> 01:13:46,572
Speaker 6: we're gonna understand except the literal engineers, there would need

1602
01:13:46,612 --> 01:13:48,572
Speaker 6: to be done at the main's injury point, and so

1603
01:13:48,692 --> 01:13:52,333
Speaker 6: your supply and so this is just a scam and

1604
01:13:52,412 --> 01:13:55,892
Speaker 6: all the all the all the you know, all the

1605
01:13:55,933 --> 01:13:59,053
Speaker 6: people saying, hey, yeah it works, we'll just take it. Well,

1606
01:13:59,093 --> 01:14:01,492
Speaker 6: you know, I wouldn't spend the money on one of

1607
01:14:01,572 --> 01:14:03,012
Speaker 6: those things, right.

1608
01:14:03,013 --> 01:14:04,732
Speaker 2: It does. It's one of those too good to be

1609
01:14:04,772 --> 01:14:07,652
Speaker 2: true things, because if it did work, would get around,

1610
01:14:07,652 --> 01:14:11,653
Speaker 2: would have them all our plates and seconds, wouldn't we exactly?

1611
01:14:11,973 --> 01:14:13,812
Speaker 2: I think they would be installed with the plugs. The

1612
01:14:13,812 --> 01:14:16,013
Speaker 2: plugs would have that and all the plugs. If that

1613
01:14:16,133 --> 01:14:19,892
Speaker 2: was a thing that worked, yeah, I say you may

1614
01:14:20,213 --> 01:14:21,452
Speaker 2: just put it towards your power belt.

1615
01:14:21,572 --> 01:14:24,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, Thank you, thank you, Sparky. Good to

1616
01:14:24,412 --> 01:14:27,373
Speaker 3: clear that one up. Barkie the Sparky Snake Oil Devices

1617
01:14:27,933 --> 01:14:29,652
Speaker 3: I one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1618
01:14:29,652 --> 01:14:31,653
Speaker 3: of call. Nineteen nine too is the text.

1619
01:14:31,532 --> 01:14:33,852
Speaker 2: Afternoon goes how big is great? Our power bill is

1620
01:14:34,093 --> 01:14:37,532
Speaker 2: the exorbitant amount we charge for line rental. Often it

1621
01:14:37,532 --> 01:14:40,173
Speaker 2: exceeds the consumption of power we've used. It's just crazy

1622
01:14:40,213 --> 01:14:41,692
Speaker 2: and it's unfair. That's from Craig.

1623
01:14:41,853 --> 01:14:47,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, Andy, Yeah, we'll go to Andy. Andy. You your

1624
01:14:47,812 --> 01:14:50,253
Speaker 3: prices of double mate? Yeah?

1625
01:14:50,293 --> 01:14:51,813
Speaker 15: Mate.

1626
01:14:52,093 --> 01:14:57,693
Speaker 27: I was paying footy cents a data usage charge.

1627
01:14:58,213 --> 01:14:58,812
Speaker 3: Yep, right.

1628
01:14:58,893 --> 01:15:01,492
Speaker 27: And then Megan Watts, who has a lot of answer for,

1629
01:15:02,173 --> 01:15:05,532
Speaker 27: removed that low usage charge. It's now on dollar twenty

1630
01:15:05,973 --> 01:15:10,333
Speaker 27: so that's a four hundred percent increase. And my no,

1631
01:15:10,372 --> 01:15:12,692
Speaker 27: I went from eighteen cents.

1632
01:15:12,492 --> 01:15:16,013
Speaker 20: To thirty six. And the kicker is.

1633
01:15:15,933 --> 01:15:18,973
Speaker 27: That my usage is around about seven eight hundred l

1634
01:15:19,452 --> 01:15:19,892
Speaker 27: per annum.

1635
01:15:20,173 --> 01:15:22,852
Speaker 20: That's not change. So I've gone back.

1636
01:15:22,732 --> 01:15:24,093
Speaker 15: The last two years.

1637
01:15:24,572 --> 01:15:27,253
Speaker 27: My uses are stored the same, it's not changed yet.

1638
01:15:27,293 --> 01:15:29,573
Speaker 20: My powerball's gone from eighty.

1639
01:15:29,293 --> 01:15:31,852
Speaker 27: To one hundred dollars now to two fifty three hundred.

1640
01:15:32,412 --> 01:15:35,692
Speaker 27: It's all because of this data use is charged, which

1641
01:15:35,732 --> 01:15:37,972
Speaker 27: she promoted at the time was going to save us

1642
01:15:37,973 --> 01:15:41,052
Speaker 27: pay because for whatever reason, we're going to be paying

1643
01:15:41,133 --> 01:15:46,053
Speaker 27: less but raising prices does not mean you're paying less. Yeah,

1644
01:15:46,053 --> 01:15:48,852
Speaker 27: I don't understand how she was able to get away

1645
01:15:48,893 --> 01:15:49,133
Speaker 27: with that.

1646
01:15:49,333 --> 01:15:51,053
Speaker 3: I could never figure out their policy. And I'm just

1647
01:15:51,133 --> 01:15:52,852
Speaker 3: looking at having a look at a media release that

1648
01:15:52,893 --> 01:15:54,652
Speaker 3: she put out at the time in twenty twenty one,

1649
01:15:54,652 --> 01:15:57,572
Speaker 3: and she said, phasing out the regulations on low use

1650
01:15:57,692 --> 01:16:00,612
Speaker 3: electricity plans will create a fairer playing field for all

1651
01:16:00,652 --> 01:16:04,612
Speaker 3: New Zealanders and encourageer switched to electric technologies. But the

1652
01:16:04,692 --> 01:16:07,492
Speaker 3: unintended consequences of getting rid of those low energy plans

1653
01:16:07,572 --> 01:16:09,572
Speaker 3: is like poor old ends doubled as cost.

1654
01:16:10,772 --> 01:16:14,372
Speaker 2: God damn unintended consequences. There's a lot of those, a

1655
01:16:14,372 --> 01:16:17,133
Speaker 2: lot of those floating around that. It was just the

1656
01:16:17,213 --> 01:16:19,212
Speaker 2: chap that was on a couple of minutes ago regarding

1657
01:16:19,293 --> 01:16:22,333
Speaker 2: estimating and getting a eleven hundred dollar bill. You can

1658
01:16:22,372 --> 01:16:24,932
Speaker 2: ring in your estimations each month and they can do

1659
01:16:25,053 --> 01:16:28,333
Speaker 2: more accurately. Cheers. This is this texture.

1660
01:16:28,372 --> 01:16:31,652
Speaker 3: Okay, that's good. And this one, hey, guys, I tried

1661
01:16:31,692 --> 01:16:36,372
Speaker 3: getting into. Oh no, that one has been read. Guys.

1662
01:16:36,412 --> 01:16:38,372
Speaker 3: The greenies want us to all be using heat pumps

1663
01:16:38,372 --> 01:16:41,612
Speaker 3: for the environment. I have a large house with two

1664
01:16:41,732 --> 01:16:45,052
Speaker 3: ducted heat pump units. The power bill is massive. Screw

1665
01:16:45,133 --> 01:16:48,492
Speaker 3: the greenies and the environment. I'm putting in a wood burner,

1666
01:16:48,612 --> 01:16:51,173
Speaker 3: burn baby, burn, Hi.

1667
01:16:51,093 --> 01:16:54,213
Speaker 2: Guys, I'm an arrow town, chilly two adults, two kids,

1668
01:16:54,253 --> 01:16:57,572
Speaker 2: two fires, running a light, water on gas, two heat

1669
01:16:57,572 --> 01:17:00,012
Speaker 2: pumps and at the moment our power is eight hundred

1670
01:17:00,093 --> 01:17:02,973
Speaker 2: dollars a month. That's mind blowing from Matt. It is

1671
01:17:03,013 --> 01:17:03,333
Speaker 2: a lot.

1672
01:17:03,492 --> 01:17:04,732
Speaker 3: That is a lot, right right.

1673
01:17:05,492 --> 01:17:08,572
Speaker 2: I still stand by my original thing. It's not the

1674
01:17:08,572 --> 01:17:10,732
Speaker 2: worst idea in the world to put on a jumper.

1675
01:17:10,973 --> 01:17:13,253
Speaker 2: Get a blanky if you want to save some money. Yep,

1676
01:17:13,412 --> 01:17:15,092
Speaker 2: blanky on your knees on the couch.

1677
01:17:15,173 --> 01:17:18,732
Speaker 3: Two person, blanky, put on a nice movie. Cuddle up,

1678
01:17:18,812 --> 01:17:19,852
Speaker 3: cuddle up, get.

1679
01:17:19,692 --> 01:17:21,532
Speaker 2: Warm, maybe you get a bit of action.

1680
01:17:21,772 --> 01:17:25,293
Speaker 3: Light a candle. Happy days. Right, good discussion, Thank you

1681
01:17:25,372 --> 01:17:27,013
Speaker 3: very much to everyone. New phone and called on that.

1682
01:17:27,452 --> 01:17:29,253
Speaker 3: We've got a big hour for you next. So we

1683
01:17:29,293 --> 01:17:31,772
Speaker 3: are going to catch up with our political reporter Azaria

1684
01:17:31,853 --> 01:17:35,492
Speaker 3: how a big announcement today in terms of supermarkets, so

1685
01:17:35,532 --> 01:17:37,492
Speaker 3: we'll break that down for you. And also we're going

1686
01:17:37,532 --> 01:17:40,093
Speaker 3: to have a chat with former finance minister and politician

1687
01:17:40,213 --> 01:17:43,652
Speaker 3: Grant Robinson. That's going to be a great chat. So

1688
01:17:44,333 --> 01:17:47,092
Speaker 3: if you want to get in touch of one hundred

1689
01:17:47,093 --> 01:17:48,812
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Nine

1690
01:17:48,893 --> 01:17:51,293
Speaker 3: two ninety two is the text number. New Sport and

1691
01:17:51,333 --> 01:17:53,532
Speaker 3: Weather on its way. Great to have your company as

1692
01:17:53,532 --> 01:17:55,532
Speaker 3: all ways. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.

1693
01:17:55,853 --> 01:18:00,813
Speaker 2: We have a look past the pastors Weavers.

1694
01:18:03,812 --> 01:18:07,612
Speaker 1: You're on new home for instcle and entertaining Talk. It's

1695
01:18:07,772 --> 01:18:17,173
Speaker 1: Matty and Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk Sebby.

1696
01:18:14,772 --> 01:18:18,293
Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You welcome back into the program. Seven

1697
01:18:18,372 --> 01:18:21,612
Speaker 3: past three. So a big news today. Moves have been

1698
01:18:21,652 --> 01:18:24,973
Speaker 3: announced on challenging the supermarket duopoly. The government says it

1699
01:18:25,013 --> 01:18:29,573
Speaker 3: will remove barriers preventing competitive supermarkets from launching or expanding

1700
01:18:29,732 --> 01:18:33,452
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. Senior political reporter Azaria Howe has been

1701
01:18:33,532 --> 01:18:37,693
Speaker 3: at that media conference and she joins us now afternoon, Azaria, afternoon,

1702
01:18:37,732 --> 01:18:39,852
Speaker 3: good to be with you. Yeah, thanks for joining us

1703
01:18:39,853 --> 01:18:41,612
Speaker 3: once again. So break it all down for us.

1704
01:18:42,452 --> 01:18:42,652
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1705
01:18:42,732 --> 01:18:46,212
Speaker 14: So Nikola Willis already sort of before this announcement admitted

1706
01:18:46,213 --> 01:18:48,412
Speaker 14: it wouldn't be a silver bullet, but she does say

1707
01:18:48,412 --> 01:18:51,173
Speaker 14: the government's been looking at red tape and regulation in

1708
01:18:51,253 --> 01:18:53,652
Speaker 14: this sort of space. So the big headline of this,

1709
01:18:53,772 --> 01:18:56,812
Speaker 14: really supermarkets will be up for being fast tracked if

1710
01:18:56,853 --> 01:19:01,213
Speaker 14: they can improve either regional or national competition. This comes

1711
01:19:01,253 --> 01:19:04,492
Speaker 14: back from the government's request for information basically found advice

1712
01:19:04,572 --> 01:19:08,293
Speaker 14: from different supermarket players across the country and the world

1713
01:19:08,652 --> 01:19:11,892
Speaker 14: that there's too much red tape, regulation, stop signs and

1714
01:19:11,933 --> 01:19:14,293
Speaker 14: things preventing people from actually wanting to set up a

1715
01:19:14,333 --> 01:19:15,133
Speaker 14: supermarket here.

1716
01:19:16,093 --> 01:19:18,132
Speaker 2: Is that what's been stopping people.

1717
01:19:19,893 --> 01:19:23,732
Speaker 14: That's what they the people who have responded to that

1718
01:19:23,772 --> 01:19:26,812
Speaker 14: request for information as saying. They say the government's saying

1719
01:19:26,933 --> 01:19:30,812
Speaker 14: legislation's set to be introduced in November and past this year.

1720
01:19:31,572 --> 01:19:34,933
Speaker 3: So those current barriers, I mean, did she mention specifically

1721
01:19:35,013 --> 01:19:38,093
Speaker 3: what those barriers are. Clearly they're changing that legislation, but

1722
01:19:38,173 --> 01:19:40,652
Speaker 3: is it just down to policy or are there other

1723
01:19:40,692 --> 01:19:44,253
Speaker 3: barriers here? Competition? You know that talk about land banking.

1724
01:19:44,452 --> 01:19:46,013
Speaker 3: Does that all come into it as well as are

1725
01:19:46,013 --> 01:19:46,852
Speaker 3: you Yeah?

1726
01:19:46,893 --> 01:19:48,972
Speaker 14: I think one of the main things was this issue

1727
01:19:48,973 --> 01:19:52,213
Speaker 14: of consenting. Finance Minister Nikola Willis said it can take

1728
01:19:52,452 --> 01:19:55,693
Speaker 14: years and also millions of dollars to set up a supermarket,

1729
01:19:55,772 --> 01:19:57,652
Speaker 14: but she's now saying she wants it to be a

1730
01:19:57,692 --> 01:20:00,692
Speaker 14: matter of months and the Government's also looking to put

1731
01:20:00,732 --> 01:20:04,572
Speaker 14: that consenting down to one single authority, so that seems

1732
01:20:04,572 --> 01:20:07,452
Speaker 14: like the big one in terms of their responses back.

1733
01:20:07,572 --> 01:20:10,852
Speaker 14: Nicola Willis was also asked, well does the New Zealand

1734
01:20:10,853 --> 01:20:14,252
Speaker 14: economy and the relative slowness of it come into effect.

1735
01:20:14,532 --> 01:20:17,932
Speaker 14: She said, not really as much in terms of compared

1736
01:20:17,973 --> 01:20:20,372
Speaker 14: to these regulatory issues that we're seeing.

1737
01:20:21,333 --> 01:20:24,452
Speaker 2: So is she talking about here a chain and is

1738
01:20:24,492 --> 01:20:27,852
Speaker 2: anyone interested as an international chain or just set up

1739
01:20:27,853 --> 01:20:32,452
Speaker 2: a supermarket? Yes, so just a major part, a single

1740
01:20:32,492 --> 01:20:35,213
Speaker 2: operator setting up a super market in competition, say you

1741
01:20:35,253 --> 01:20:36,412
Speaker 2: know in a suburb.

1742
01:20:36,893 --> 01:20:39,572
Speaker 14: A major part of this. And as an Aucklander you

1743
01:20:39,652 --> 01:20:42,852
Speaker 14: might be aware with the West Auckland Costco. The government

1744
01:20:42,893 --> 01:20:46,412
Speaker 14: has been in talks with Costco for potentially more shops

1745
01:20:46,452 --> 01:20:49,012
Speaker 14: in New Zealand. Now this comes after that West Aukland

1746
01:20:49,053 --> 01:20:52,132
Speaker 14: Costco has had quite some success in terms of bringing

1747
01:20:52,173 --> 01:20:54,972
Speaker 14: people from a cross Auckland. When I was in Auckland,

1748
01:20:54,973 --> 01:20:57,812
Speaker 14: I actually visited it as well, so it is sort

1749
01:20:57,853 --> 01:21:01,932
Speaker 14: of attracting new customers. Finance Minister Nikola Willis really hoping

1750
01:21:01,973 --> 01:21:06,093
Speaker 14: this one will bring downward pressure on prices, essentially to

1751
01:21:06,652 --> 01:21:09,093
Speaker 14: ease the cost of living, But there's been a bit

1752
01:21:09,093 --> 01:21:12,092
Speaker 14: of disappointment as well from the government. They thought Aldi

1753
01:21:12,173 --> 01:21:15,133
Speaker 14: and Little would be interested in that request for information.

1754
01:21:15,612 --> 01:21:18,133
Speaker 14: They did not partake in that. But there is sort

1755
01:21:18,133 --> 01:21:19,692
Speaker 14: of a glimmer of hope with Costco.

1756
01:21:20,253 --> 01:21:22,973
Speaker 3: What does that say when the likes of Aldi and

1757
01:21:23,372 --> 01:21:27,413
Speaker 3: you mentioned another outfit there, they're not interested in that information.

1758
01:21:27,572 --> 01:21:30,933
Speaker 3: I mean, does that say that they cannot see profitability

1759
01:21:31,013 --> 01:21:34,173
Speaker 3: in this market even with those leavers that have been pulled.

1760
01:21:34,812 --> 01:21:38,772
Speaker 14: Yeah, well, Nikola Willis. Her response to that really was

1761
01:21:39,093 --> 01:21:41,772
Speaker 14: we now have a welcome Matt. We're sort of saying

1762
01:21:41,772 --> 01:21:45,652
Speaker 14: that we can potentially put supermarkets forward to fast track them.

1763
01:21:46,093 --> 01:21:48,892
Speaker 14: And really her message to Aldi and Little and those

1764
01:21:48,933 --> 01:21:51,973
Speaker 14: companies that didn't take place is everyone should give New

1765
01:21:52,053 --> 01:21:55,972
Speaker 14: Zealand another look. So really hoping that they do actually

1766
01:21:56,053 --> 01:21:57,852
Speaker 14: take a look at that. But I mean, in terms

1767
01:21:57,893 --> 01:22:00,173
Speaker 14: of the Costco option, it seems much more on the

1768
01:22:00,213 --> 01:22:01,812
Speaker 14: table than any other company.

1769
01:22:02,173 --> 01:22:05,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, okay, some red take being removed. Yeah. It's

1770
01:22:05,412 --> 01:22:07,692
Speaker 2: interesting though, because you'd think, with how much we've been

1771
01:22:07,692 --> 01:22:10,012
Speaker 2: talking about it, you think that the amount of profits

1772
01:22:10,093 --> 01:22:14,892
Speaker 2: was so huge from supermarkets that businesses would be kicking

1773
01:22:14,933 --> 01:22:16,452
Speaker 2: down the doors to get in. But it doesn't seem

1774
01:22:16,492 --> 01:22:16,972
Speaker 2: to be the case.

1775
01:22:17,053 --> 01:22:20,852
Speaker 3: No, exactly, Yeah, Azariah, thank you very much for that breakdown,

1776
01:22:20,893 --> 01:22:24,093
Speaker 3: really appreciate it. We'll chat again tomorrow chairs that is

1777
01:22:24,253 --> 01:22:26,612
Speaker 3: Azaria Howe with that latest announcement, and there'll be more

1778
01:22:26,652 --> 01:22:30,213
Speaker 3: on that, we're sure with Heather after four o'clock. But

1779
01:22:30,293 --> 01:22:33,372
Speaker 3: coming up, we want to have a chat about getting

1780
01:22:33,412 --> 01:22:36,772
Speaker 3: into politics in twenty twenty five. So Grant Robertson, very

1781
01:22:36,812 --> 01:22:39,892
Speaker 3: well known name, former finance minister now former politician, being

1782
01:22:39,893 --> 01:22:42,372
Speaker 3: out of the game for a wee while he's recently

1783
01:22:42,692 --> 01:22:46,293
Speaker 3: released as memoir anything could happen. But it was in

1784
01:22:46,812 --> 01:22:48,732
Speaker 3: a bit of promo he was doing for the book

1785
01:22:48,732 --> 01:22:50,652
Speaker 3: in an interview and he had a line and here

1786
01:22:50,692 --> 01:22:53,452
Speaker 3: it is, everybody I see looks better when they stop

1787
01:22:53,452 --> 01:22:56,172
Speaker 3: in politics than they did when they were in it.

1788
01:22:56,173 --> 01:22:58,693
Speaker 2: It's an interesting one, isn't it, Because it does appear

1789
01:22:58,853 --> 01:23:02,892
Speaker 2: it does feel like being a politician now is more

1790
01:23:02,933 --> 01:23:08,652
Speaker 2: hardcore in terms of the scrutiny and abuse than ever

1791
01:23:08,692 --> 01:23:12,572
Speaker 2: has been to me looking at you know, when I

1792
01:23:12,572 --> 01:23:14,612
Speaker 2: was growing up, I thought, oh I wouldn't mind being PM.

1793
01:23:14,652 --> 01:23:17,013
Speaker 2: Looks pretty good. Now I think it would be the

1794
01:23:17,053 --> 01:23:22,172
Speaker 2: most horrible job possible. Are we making it so horrible

1795
01:23:22,213 --> 01:23:25,293
Speaker 2: to be a politician, basically aging people terribly being in

1796
01:23:25,333 --> 01:23:28,372
Speaker 2: there that the brightest and best are choosing not to

1797
01:23:28,372 --> 01:23:30,732
Speaker 2: go into politics. I mean, not to say I'm the

1798
01:23:30,732 --> 01:23:31,492
Speaker 2: brightest and best.

1799
01:23:32,213 --> 01:23:34,132
Speaker 3: You do it right, mate, you'ah do it right in politics.

1800
01:23:34,173 --> 01:23:35,333
Speaker 3: But you're right, I mean, you know what I mean.

1801
01:23:35,853 --> 01:23:38,173
Speaker 2: Do we really want to make it that bad that

1802
01:23:39,492 --> 01:23:41,652
Speaker 2: people don't choose to go into it? And then doesn't

1803
01:23:41,692 --> 01:23:43,692
Speaker 2: that just mean we just get the absolute most power

1804
01:23:43,732 --> 01:23:44,692
Speaker 2: hungry that are doing it?

1805
01:23:44,853 --> 01:23:47,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I mean anyone and we've all got some

1806
01:23:47,572 --> 01:23:49,652
Speaker 3: sort of skeletons in our closet. You're right, it's the

1807
01:23:49,732 --> 01:23:52,213
Speaker 3: common or the way that the world is at the

1808
01:23:52,213 --> 01:23:55,412
Speaker 3: moment that anyone who might have done a transgression in

1809
01:23:55,452 --> 01:23:58,053
Speaker 3: their past is too terrified of stepping up and trying

1810
01:23:58,093 --> 01:23:59,692
Speaker 3: to help out the community. Because that's why a lot

1811
01:23:59,732 --> 01:24:01,532
Speaker 3: of people get into politics, right, most of them is

1812
01:24:01,572 --> 01:24:02,652
Speaker 3: to try and make a difference.

1813
01:24:02,812 --> 01:24:05,572
Speaker 2: They say, Nah, you go online and see the amount

1814
01:24:05,612 --> 01:24:09,412
Speaker 2: of abuse that Christopher Luxon gets. He gets more abuse

1815
01:24:09,492 --> 01:24:15,372
Speaker 2: than any politician in my lifetime. Yeah, it's just incredibly

1816
01:24:15,893 --> 01:24:18,852
Speaker 2: fall on. He seems to just sort of let it

1817
01:24:19,013 --> 01:24:21,333
Speaker 2: wash off on But you know, is it just too

1818
01:24:21,372 --> 01:24:23,452
Speaker 2: horrible to be a politician these days? And then there's

1819
01:24:24,053 --> 01:24:27,612
Speaker 2: journalists like you Tyler, just ripping them shreds just for

1820
01:24:27,652 --> 01:24:29,732
Speaker 2: the rage bait of the audience.

1821
01:24:29,772 --> 01:24:31,893
Speaker 3: We love laying into politicians, but can you hear from you?

1822
01:24:31,933 --> 01:24:33,452
Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1823
01:24:33,532 --> 01:24:36,093
Speaker 3: number to call, And coming up after the break, we

1824
01:24:36,133 --> 01:24:40,053
Speaker 3: will be chatting to Grant Robinson, former politician and one

1825
01:24:40,053 --> 01:24:42,852
Speaker 3: time ban manager for Matt Heath. But he's coming up

1826
01:24:42,933 --> 01:24:46,532
Speaker 3: very shortly. It is thirteen past three US talks. It'd

1827
01:24:46,612 --> 01:24:49,253
Speaker 3: be very good afternoon, due sixteen past three. So former

1828
01:24:49,293 --> 01:24:52,812
Speaker 3: politician Grant Robertson now Vice chancellor at the University of

1829
01:24:52,812 --> 01:24:56,412
Speaker 3: the Tago. He's just released his new memoir Anything Could Happen.

1830
01:24:56,812 --> 01:24:58,213
Speaker 3: So he's saw in a few interviews in a bit

1831
01:24:58,213 --> 01:25:00,412
Speaker 3: of press around that the release of that book, and

1832
01:25:00,412 --> 01:25:02,812
Speaker 3: there was one line that we spotted in one of

1833
01:25:02,853 --> 01:25:05,412
Speaker 3: those interviews that struck us. So the line is everybody

1834
01:25:05,452 --> 01:25:08,053
Speaker 3: I see looks better when they stop in politics then

1835
01:25:08,572 --> 01:25:10,852
Speaker 3: when they did when they were in it, which is

1836
01:25:10,853 --> 01:25:13,692
Speaker 3: the hell of a line. But Grant Robinson joins us

1837
01:25:13,812 --> 01:25:16,412
Speaker 3: on the show right now. Grant, good afternoon to you,

1838
01:25:17,452 --> 01:25:17,972
Speaker 3: oh cured.

1839
01:25:18,612 --> 01:25:20,812
Speaker 2: How quickly did you start looking better in the mirror

1840
01:25:20,853 --> 01:25:22,452
Speaker 2: after you left the politics?

1841
01:25:23,293 --> 01:25:28,652
Speaker 18: Yeah, pretty damn quickly. Somebody told me that I looked younger,

1842
01:25:28,692 --> 01:25:30,532
Speaker 18: which she always liked to hear, don't you when you're

1843
01:25:30,692 --> 01:25:34,212
Speaker 18: at your fifties? But yeah, no, no, I felt mentally

1844
01:25:34,253 --> 01:25:36,732
Speaker 18: and physically better. Did each take a little while, To

1845
01:25:36,732 --> 01:25:39,133
Speaker 18: be honest. In the book, I talk about going to

1846
01:25:39,133 --> 01:25:41,732
Speaker 18: see a counselor in the last period of time when

1847
01:25:41,732 --> 01:25:44,133
Speaker 18: I was in politics, And remember she said to me

1848
01:25:44,213 --> 01:25:46,372
Speaker 18: she dealt with quite a few high profile people, and

1849
01:25:46,412 --> 01:25:49,572
Speaker 18: she said, for every year that you're in a high

1850
01:25:49,652 --> 01:25:52,452
Speaker 18: profile role, you need at least a month. So I

1851
01:25:52,492 --> 01:25:55,772
Speaker 18: reckon probably after about now, which is about fifteen months,

1852
01:25:56,612 --> 01:25:59,293
Speaker 18: I'm looking the best I ever have, Guys, So she.

1853
01:25:59,173 --> 01:26:02,052
Speaker 2: Doesn't have it for everyone, like Barack Obama aged about

1854
01:26:02,093 --> 01:26:04,892
Speaker 2: twenty years a year and then he hasn't really gone back.

1855
01:26:05,372 --> 01:26:07,973
Speaker 18: What is two words via there, matte here and to

1856
01:26:08,053 --> 01:26:12,213
Speaker 18: die anyway?

1857
01:26:13,372 --> 01:26:17,452
Speaker 2: What's the you know what bit of parliament is that

1858
01:26:17,452 --> 01:26:19,652
Speaker 2: that takes the most out of you as a person.

1859
01:26:22,492 --> 01:26:23,973
Speaker 18: I will answer that, but I just want to say

1860
01:26:24,013 --> 01:26:26,013
Speaker 18: at the beginning, I kind of know not just the

1861
01:26:26,013 --> 01:26:29,213
Speaker 18: news tiogs the audience, but a more general audience. There's

1862
01:26:29,253 --> 01:26:31,973
Speaker 18: not a massive amount of sympathy out there for politicians.

1863
01:26:32,093 --> 01:26:34,772
Speaker 18: And I do kind of get that, you know, in

1864
01:26:34,812 --> 01:26:37,612
Speaker 18: the sense that we're high profile people, and you know,

1865
01:26:38,253 --> 01:26:41,093
Speaker 18: we are well paid. Politicians are well paid relative to

1866
01:26:41,093 --> 01:26:43,692
Speaker 18: the rest of the population. You know, all of that.

1867
01:26:44,173 --> 01:26:46,532
Speaker 18: It's also a really important role in one that we

1868
01:26:46,572 --> 01:26:48,612
Speaker 18: want the best of our people to be wanting to

1869
01:26:48,652 --> 01:26:51,572
Speaker 18: go into. And my observation of sort of twenty odd

1870
01:26:51,652 --> 01:26:54,452
Speaker 18: years around politics is that the bit that's changed the

1871
01:26:54,492 --> 01:26:59,532
Speaker 18: most is the way in which the public scrutiny is

1872
01:26:59,532 --> 01:27:02,772
Speaker 18: in your face twenty four to seven, that your families

1873
01:27:02,812 --> 01:27:06,932
Speaker 18: are being brought into it, that it's coming close to home.

1874
01:27:07,053 --> 01:27:08,932
Speaker 18: You know, everyone's got a camera in their hand, now,

1875
01:27:08,933 --> 01:27:11,452
Speaker 18: don't they with their phone, and so they're right in

1876
01:27:11,492 --> 01:27:15,412
Speaker 18: the face. There's no downtime. You're twenty four seven, the

1877
01:27:15,492 --> 01:27:19,732
Speaker 18: slightest mistake era, you know, bad temper at moment, and

1878
01:27:20,053 --> 01:27:23,532
Speaker 18: it's all over the media and the pylon begins. So

1879
01:27:23,572 --> 01:27:26,652
Speaker 18: I think it's that. I think it's the fact that, yep,

1880
01:27:26,732 --> 01:27:30,612
Speaker 18: you deserve scrutiny as a politician. Every politician should expect that,

1881
01:27:31,173 --> 01:27:33,933
Speaker 18: especially if it's about policy. And about the you know,

1882
01:27:33,973 --> 01:27:37,333
Speaker 18: the important things that you're doing. It's when it transfers

1883
01:27:37,372 --> 01:27:39,772
Speaker 18: over into your private life, your personal life, and it's

1884
01:27:39,973 --> 01:27:44,293
Speaker 18: just NonStop. Is no respite, and that's tough.

1885
01:27:44,812 --> 01:27:47,612
Speaker 2: So you think that the actual media has become more

1886
01:27:47,652 --> 01:27:50,812
Speaker 2: hardcore and not just social media being added into the mix.

1887
01:27:51,772 --> 01:27:55,213
Speaker 18: I think it's mainly social media, I'll say that now,

1888
01:27:55,572 --> 01:27:57,932
Speaker 18: But in a funny way, I feel the same sympathy

1889
01:27:58,093 --> 01:28:01,933
Speaker 18: for the media who cover Parliament. I remember talking to

1890
01:28:02,973 --> 01:28:05,532
Speaker 18: some senior journalists before I left, had been around for

1891
01:28:05,652 --> 01:28:07,093
Speaker 18: you know, a number of years. You said, you know,

1892
01:28:07,133 --> 01:28:09,612
Speaker 18: in the old days, they would come up with a

1893
01:28:09,692 --> 01:28:12,452
Speaker 18: yarn that asks people for different views on it, that

1894
01:28:12,532 --> 01:28:14,612
Speaker 18: sort of spend the day working out what was true

1895
01:28:14,652 --> 01:28:17,093
Speaker 18: what wasn't. They'd write the story and there it would

1896
01:28:17,133 --> 01:28:19,612
Speaker 18: be on the front page of the Herald or some

1897
01:28:19,692 --> 01:28:24,572
Speaker 18: other inns and owned publication the next day. Now they

1898
01:28:24,612 --> 01:28:27,652
Speaker 18: are expected to report on it in real time. There

1899
01:28:27,692 --> 01:28:30,173
Speaker 18: isn't a lot of time to check facts. Stuff gets

1900
01:28:30,173 --> 01:28:34,172
Speaker 18: asserted and it's kind of like this perpetual motion machine

1901
01:28:34,173 --> 01:28:38,173
Speaker 18: that everyone in politics is on. And I'm not really

1902
01:28:38,173 --> 01:28:40,532
Speaker 18: blaming media per se in that, I'm just saying the

1903
01:28:40,572 --> 01:28:43,612
Speaker 18: whole thing is at warp speed twenty four to seven.

1904
01:28:43,853 --> 01:28:46,372
Speaker 18: There's very little time for reflection, and I just think

1905
01:28:46,412 --> 01:28:47,732
Speaker 18: it takes its toll on everyone.

1906
01:28:48,333 --> 01:28:51,212
Speaker 2: Do you think good people then are turning down politics?

1907
01:28:51,253 --> 01:28:54,412
Speaker 2: There is a career because of this, because it's so clearly.

1908
01:28:54,452 --> 01:28:56,293
Speaker 2: I mean, I can see how full on it is

1909
01:28:56,853 --> 01:28:59,052
Speaker 2: from the outside. I mean, I am part of the media,

1910
01:28:59,133 --> 01:29:00,412
Speaker 2: but sometimes I claim not.

1911
01:29:00,333 --> 01:29:00,852
Speaker 23: To be, but.

1912
01:29:02,893 --> 01:29:06,412
Speaker 2: You know, it just looks horrible for me. From the outside.

1913
01:29:06,412 --> 01:29:09,733
Speaker 2: It looks like the most intent hens situation.

1914
01:29:11,652 --> 01:29:13,852
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think, Look, I think there are people who

1915
01:29:13,853 --> 01:29:15,772
Speaker 18: are turning it down. Having said that, there also plenty

1916
01:29:15,812 --> 01:29:17,452
Speaker 18: of people put in their hands up, aren't there? So

1917
01:29:17,812 --> 01:29:20,293
Speaker 18: not everyone is put off. Not everyone has the same

1918
01:29:20,333 --> 01:29:22,612
Speaker 18: experience either, you know. I talk to some of my

1919
01:29:23,053 --> 01:29:25,973
Speaker 18: colleagues and former colleagues who say, yeah, yeah, it was

1920
01:29:26,093 --> 01:29:27,333
Speaker 18: you know, there was a little bit of that, but

1921
01:29:27,372 --> 01:29:29,652
Speaker 18: it wasn't too bad. So there are going to be

1922
01:29:29,732 --> 01:29:32,132
Speaker 18: different experiences. I mean, I get a lot of people

1923
01:29:32,772 --> 01:29:35,293
Speaker 18: coming to me and saying I'm thinking about going to politics,

1924
01:29:35,372 --> 01:29:38,732
Speaker 18: actually from different parties, and what do I think of that?

1925
01:29:38,812 --> 01:29:41,293
Speaker 18: And usually I say, look, if you're passionate about what

1926
01:29:41,372 --> 01:29:43,372
Speaker 18: you believe in, you've got things you would like to

1927
01:29:43,372 --> 01:29:46,612
Speaker 18: see happen within four New Zealanders, go for it. But

1928
01:29:46,732 --> 01:29:48,812
Speaker 18: it does come with a health warning, and that health

1929
01:29:48,853 --> 01:29:52,013
Speaker 18: warning is that you'll lose your personal life. There's a

1930
01:29:52,093 --> 01:29:54,412
Speaker 18: chance your family will be sucked into it, and you've

1931
01:29:54,412 --> 01:29:57,092
Speaker 18: got to kind of prepare yourself for that. But gosh,

1932
01:29:57,213 --> 01:30:00,333
Speaker 18: I really want to get the point across. Politics still matters,

1933
01:30:00,532 --> 01:30:03,412
Speaker 18: the media still matters. We've just got to work out

1934
01:30:03,452 --> 01:30:05,973
Speaker 18: how we can make it a bit more sustainable.

1935
01:30:06,372 --> 01:30:09,492
Speaker 3: It strikes me grant as a job now that could

1936
01:30:09,492 --> 01:30:11,852
Speaker 3: be pretty isolating that you you know, if you get

1937
01:30:11,853 --> 01:30:14,852
Speaker 3: into politics and you do well, you're a high performer

1938
01:30:14,893 --> 01:30:17,492
Speaker 3: by nature. But I look and it doesn't matter what

1939
01:30:17,532 --> 01:30:20,572
Speaker 3: side of the aisle these politicians are performing on. When

1940
01:30:20,652 --> 01:30:23,333
Speaker 3: things go wrong, Who the hell do you talk to

1941
01:30:23,532 --> 01:30:26,812
Speaker 3: that actually understands and can give you genuine advice. Seems

1942
01:30:26,812 --> 01:30:29,333
Speaker 3: to me that that can be potentially isolating for a

1943
01:30:29,333 --> 01:30:30,933
Speaker 3: lot of people to get into politics.

1944
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Speaker 18: Yeah, I'd say that's a fair point. In one of

1945
01:30:33,772 --> 01:30:36,732
Speaker 18: the things I know it was being done before I

1946
01:30:36,812 --> 01:30:40,813
Speaker 18: left Parliament around making sure that parliamentarians across all parties

1947
01:30:40,933 --> 01:30:44,612
Speaker 18: were you know, were being given opportunities to have people

1948
01:30:44,652 --> 01:30:46,532
Speaker 18: that they could go and talk to. And I do

1949
01:30:46,612 --> 01:30:49,692
Speaker 18: write about this in the book that I had. I

1950
01:30:49,732 --> 01:30:52,173
Speaker 18: wasn't very good at that. I was probably in the

1951
01:30:52,173 --> 01:30:55,333
Speaker 18: category that you're talking about. But in that last year

1952
01:30:55,692 --> 01:30:58,093
Speaker 18: just because you know, I have to just resigned and

1953
01:30:58,133 --> 01:31:00,692
Speaker 18: I didn't take up the PM's job, and that I

1954
01:31:00,772 --> 01:31:03,293
Speaker 18: definitely needed help and it was the best thing I did.

1955
01:31:03,772 --> 01:31:05,692
Speaker 18: And the person was not a person with a great

1956
01:31:05,692 --> 01:31:08,612
Speaker 18: connection to politics. They were just somebody that I I

1957
01:31:08,652 --> 01:31:12,453
Speaker 18: could talk to. And so making sure those opportunities are available.

1958
01:31:12,812 --> 01:31:14,572
Speaker 18: You know, there's been some work over the last year

1959
01:31:14,652 --> 01:31:17,333
Speaker 18: or so to try and improve the culture in parliament generally,

1960
01:31:17,333 --> 01:31:20,293
Speaker 18: because staff and parliament also are caught up in this

1961
01:31:20,492 --> 01:31:22,412
Speaker 18: kind of malestream along with it, as I say, the

1962
01:31:22,452 --> 01:31:25,452
Speaker 18: media too. So yeah, having someone to talk to is important.

1963
01:31:25,452 --> 01:31:28,293
Speaker 18: But you know, I effectively gave up going out much

1964
01:31:28,333 --> 01:31:30,293
Speaker 18: in the last few years just because there was a

1965
01:31:30,293 --> 01:31:32,973
Speaker 18: certain time in the evening where where to use it

1966
01:31:32,973 --> 01:31:35,932
Speaker 18: and mad heathers and punishers would with start to talk

1967
01:31:35,973 --> 01:31:38,013
Speaker 18: to you at a at a rate that you know

1968
01:31:38,173 --> 01:31:41,293
Speaker 18: was a bit unsustainable, and so I think that you

1969
01:31:41,333 --> 01:31:43,812
Speaker 18: can find yourself isolated. But I was fortunate I had

1970
01:31:43,853 --> 01:31:46,253
Speaker 18: a great set of friends who I could see kind

1971
01:31:46,253 --> 01:31:49,572
Speaker 18: of socially in different settings, and they helped me get

1972
01:31:49,612 --> 01:31:50,293
Speaker 18: through it as well.

1973
01:31:50,732 --> 01:31:52,932
Speaker 2: What about with the parliament, because you always hear stories

1974
01:31:52,933 --> 01:31:56,293
Speaker 2: about robust chat chats and parliament and then cross party

1975
01:31:56,333 --> 01:31:59,452
Speaker 2: bears and friendships. Now that everything seems to have got

1976
01:31:59,452 --> 01:32:06,573
Speaker 2: so polarizing, of politicians still making friends across the aisle, Yeah.

1977
01:32:06,692 --> 01:32:08,892
Speaker 18: Perhaps maybe not quite as much. WHU I think in

1978
01:32:08,933 --> 01:32:11,452
Speaker 18: the old days that hours at Parliament were actually like

1979
01:32:12,173 --> 01:32:14,692
Speaker 18: a bit longer. You know, they used urgency more often,

1980
01:32:14,732 --> 01:32:16,812
Speaker 18: they sat through the night, which we don't do anymore.

1981
01:32:16,812 --> 01:32:20,133
Speaker 18: We stop at midnight even for an urgency. So yeah,

1982
01:32:20,412 --> 01:32:24,213
Speaker 18: you know, I think there's probably slightly less opportunity for

1983
01:32:24,253 --> 01:32:26,812
Speaker 18: that less culture of going to the parliament bar and

1984
01:32:26,812 --> 01:32:30,612
Speaker 18: so on. But look, I know colleagues who have people

1985
01:32:30,612 --> 01:32:33,692
Speaker 18: across the aisle that they talk to. And again, you know,

1986
01:32:33,732 --> 01:32:35,732
Speaker 18: he said, jamelessly, plaguing the book for the fourth time

1987
01:32:35,772 --> 01:32:38,213
Speaker 18: in the interview. But in the book, you know, I

1988
01:32:38,372 --> 01:32:41,972
Speaker 18: mentioned people like Todd Muller, who who I knew coming

1989
01:32:42,053 --> 01:32:44,133
Speaker 18: before I went into politics, who you know, who I

1990
01:32:44,372 --> 01:32:48,173
Speaker 18: regard very highly and I spent time with him. You know,

1991
01:32:48,213 --> 01:32:50,652
Speaker 18: there are others in Parliament who I would have done

1992
01:32:50,692 --> 01:32:53,173
Speaker 18: that with. But I feel like less so I feel

1993
01:32:53,213 --> 01:32:55,013
Speaker 18: like it is more polarized. I mean, we're not the

1994
01:32:55,093 --> 01:32:58,933
Speaker 18: United States, and that's a good thing from my perspective,

1995
01:32:58,933 --> 01:33:02,052
Speaker 18: in the sense that the polarization you see there as

1996
01:33:02,333 --> 01:33:05,852
Speaker 18: utterly extreme. But I can see elements of it creeping

1997
01:33:05,893 --> 01:33:08,133
Speaker 18: in in New Zealand. And you know, I think I

1998
01:33:08,333 --> 01:33:12,052
Speaker 18: think we're good when we do have those robust policy debates,

1999
01:33:12,093 --> 01:33:14,652
Speaker 18: but we can move past that and respect each other

2000
01:33:14,692 --> 01:33:15,213
Speaker 18: as people.

2001
01:33:15,732 --> 01:33:20,812
Speaker 2: So we've had leaders in times of war and such.

2002
01:33:21,452 --> 01:33:23,532
Speaker 2: Do you think there's something in it? And you know,

2003
01:33:24,372 --> 01:33:26,532
Speaker 2: people will say, well, if you want to lead the country,

2004
01:33:26,572 --> 01:33:30,092
Speaker 2: you need to be hard, and so we want hard, strong,

2005
01:33:30,293 --> 01:33:33,572
Speaker 2: powerful people that can take anything to lead at us

2006
01:33:33,612 --> 01:33:36,093
Speaker 2: in the country. Do you think there's anything in that?

2007
01:33:37,893 --> 01:33:39,852
Speaker 4: Oh, look, you've got to be tough to lead.

2008
01:33:40,053 --> 01:33:43,732
Speaker 18: But being tough doesn't mean, you know, being cruel, it

2009
01:33:43,772 --> 01:33:48,972
Speaker 18: doesn't mean being unnecessarily unkind. And you know, I believe

2010
01:33:48,973 --> 01:33:51,053
Speaker 18: one of the toughest politicians I ever worked with was

2011
01:33:51,133 --> 01:33:55,533
Speaker 18: just under dun I mean, she took some extraordinarily difficult calls.

2012
01:33:55,973 --> 01:33:58,093
Speaker 18: She stood by what she believed and when there were

2013
01:33:58,093 --> 01:34:00,652
Speaker 18: people telling her that she shouldn't be doing it. That's

2014
01:34:00,692 --> 01:34:02,973
Speaker 18: a form of toughness, but what went with it was

2015
01:34:04,293 --> 01:34:07,053
Speaker 18: a different kind of attitude and approach. So, yes, you've

2016
01:34:07,093 --> 01:34:09,213
Speaker 18: got to be tough. Yes, you need to be able

2017
01:34:09,253 --> 01:34:13,053
Speaker 18: to accept criticism of what you're saying and doing. I

2018
01:34:13,133 --> 01:34:15,932
Speaker 18: just think we can all see how that when it

2019
01:34:15,973 --> 01:34:19,293
Speaker 18: goes beyond that, and the level of threats and abuse,

2020
01:34:19,412 --> 01:34:24,492
Speaker 18: particularly female politicians get is horrendous. You know, I'm gay,

2021
01:34:24,652 --> 01:34:27,972
Speaker 18: so that that gave another kind of angle of attack

2022
01:34:28,093 --> 01:34:30,372
Speaker 18: for the kind of homophobic abuse that I used to

2023
01:34:30,732 --> 01:34:33,093
Speaker 18: get a lot of in the role. That stuff's just

2024
01:34:33,173 --> 01:34:36,812
Speaker 18: not on And we need to all say, no matter

2025
01:34:36,812 --> 01:34:39,732
Speaker 18: what side of politics we're on, if we see that happening,

2026
01:34:40,133 --> 01:34:41,053
Speaker 18: that we call it out.

2027
01:34:42,133 --> 01:34:44,173
Speaker 2: The current promise gets a lot of bad abuse. I've

2028
01:34:44,173 --> 01:34:47,372
Speaker 2: got to say, do you chew over you know what

2029
01:34:46,933 --> 01:34:50,093
Speaker 2: what happens? You know, like when you finish Parliament, you

2030
01:34:50,093 --> 01:34:52,133
Speaker 2: know you're out, you're getting to your life. Do you

2031
01:34:52,173 --> 01:34:54,452
Speaker 2: do you because you know there's things in my life

2032
01:34:54,452 --> 01:34:57,572
Speaker 2: that I've done that I chew over over and over

2033
01:34:57,572 --> 01:35:00,812
Speaker 2: and over again, and and they were insignificant and the things.

2034
01:35:01,812 --> 01:35:04,013
Speaker 3: Not paying that we'll get to that people, we'll get

2035
01:35:04,013 --> 01:35:04,333
Speaker 3: to that.

2036
01:35:04,372 --> 01:35:07,892
Speaker 2: Well, we'll get to that. Do you do you ever

2037
01:35:08,013 --> 01:35:09,093
Speaker 2: wake up up in the middle of the night and

2038
01:35:09,093 --> 01:35:12,333
Speaker 2: you're still chewing over the things from your from your

2039
01:35:12,333 --> 01:35:13,493
Speaker 2: time in parliament.

2040
01:35:14,532 --> 01:35:17,292
Speaker 18: No, not so much nowadays, but but yeah, I think

2041
01:35:17,333 --> 01:35:19,652
Speaker 18: that's all part of it. You know, I describe myself

2042
01:35:19,692 --> 01:35:22,652
Speaker 18: as a recovering politician, and I think you know, there's

2043
01:35:22,772 --> 01:35:25,572
Speaker 18: there's there are times, of course when you reflect on

2044
01:35:26,133 --> 01:35:28,092
Speaker 18: what you said and what you did, and I absolutely

2045
01:35:28,093 --> 01:35:30,532
Speaker 18: agree with you. I mean, I'm saying all of this now.

2046
01:35:30,933 --> 01:35:33,253
Speaker 18: I'm very clear that there were times in parliament when

2047
01:35:33,293 --> 01:35:35,412
Speaker 18: I was in full flight where I probably said stuff

2048
01:35:35,452 --> 01:35:38,812
Speaker 18: that was a bit personal. I tried never to bring

2049
01:35:38,853 --> 01:35:41,133
Speaker 18: families in and there's absolutely to it, and there was

2050
01:35:41,173 --> 01:35:44,173
Speaker 18: a reason for it. But you know, all of us

2051
01:35:44,213 --> 01:35:46,093
Speaker 18: will look back on times and say, yeah, I could

2052
01:35:46,093 --> 01:35:49,333
Speaker 18: have been better in that environment, and you know that's

2053
01:35:49,333 --> 01:35:52,852
Speaker 18: a natural result of being in that robust arena. I

2054
01:35:52,853 --> 01:35:55,932
Speaker 18: guess all I'm pointing out is that year when people

2055
01:35:55,933 --> 01:35:58,253
Speaker 18: come out of politics, you can see how much better

2056
01:35:58,293 --> 01:36:01,933
Speaker 18: they look and feel, and we've got to do what

2057
01:36:01,973 --> 01:36:04,213
Speaker 18: we can to make the experience a better one.

2058
01:36:04,532 --> 01:36:06,173
Speaker 2: Now, grant to go back to an issue you brought

2059
01:36:06,213 --> 01:36:08,333
Speaker 2: up before in your book you claim that you too

2060
01:36:08,452 --> 01:36:10,572
Speaker 2: hundred bucks from when you manage my band.

2061
01:36:10,772 --> 01:36:11,213
Speaker 13: You not you.

2062
01:36:11,492 --> 01:36:13,093
Speaker 18: I've got to be fair here, Matt. There were there

2063
01:36:13,093 --> 01:36:14,692
Speaker 18: were four people in the band, so.

2064
01:36:15,053 --> 01:36:18,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, well here was lead singer though, Let's be fair here.

2065
01:36:18,532 --> 01:36:20,293
Speaker 2: So and you're also say in the book quite clearly

2066
01:36:20,333 --> 01:36:22,892
Speaker 2: that you're still waiting on the money. Now. I know

2067
01:36:22,973 --> 01:36:26,213
Speaker 2: that you're back in Duneda and running the university down there,

2068
01:36:26,253 --> 01:36:28,253
Speaker 2: So can I just say if you could stop past

2069
01:36:28,372 --> 01:36:31,852
Speaker 2: the nutrition department. My sister is a professor there, so

2070
01:36:31,933 --> 01:36:33,612
Speaker 2: I'm sure she'll sort you out with that. That too,

2071
01:36:33,652 --> 01:36:34,132
Speaker 2: on a buck.

2072
01:36:34,053 --> 01:36:37,253
Speaker 3: Still shirking the bills, making sister pay brilliant exactly.

2073
01:36:37,532 --> 01:36:40,492
Speaker 18: That's that's the approach that I remember well. But no,

2074
01:36:40,652 --> 01:36:43,892
Speaker 18: it was put it this way. The fond memories I

2075
01:36:43,933 --> 01:36:47,053
Speaker 18: have from from kidter Trinity probably our way that.

2076
01:36:46,772 --> 01:36:49,293
Speaker 2: The money that yeah, very good. All right, well you

2077
01:36:49,333 --> 01:36:52,133
Speaker 2: definitely got some some good, good amounts of free beers

2078
01:36:52,213 --> 01:36:53,972
Speaker 2: if I remember back in the day. All right, thanks

2079
01:36:53,973 --> 01:36:56,652
Speaker 2: for joining us, Grunt, no worries, cheers.

2080
01:36:56,812 --> 01:36:59,452
Speaker 3: That is a former politician. Grant Robinson, a one time

2081
01:36:59,492 --> 01:37:02,333
Speaker 3: band member for Matt Heath and co band manager band

2082
01:37:02,372 --> 01:37:05,293
Speaker 3: manager sorry, not bad member, but love to you your thoughts.

2083
01:37:05,333 --> 01:37:07,772
Speaker 3: I one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

2084
01:37:08,053 --> 01:37:10,052
Speaker 3: Is it too hard to be a politician? In twenty

2085
01:37:10,133 --> 01:37:12,573
Speaker 3: twenty five? It is twenty eight past.

2086
01:37:12,293 --> 01:37:19,772
Speaker 1: Three, Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

2087
01:37:19,772 --> 01:37:23,052
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB supas three.

2088
01:37:23,173 --> 01:37:25,932
Speaker 3: So many texts have come through. On nine to ninety two.

2089
01:37:26,093 --> 01:37:28,412
Speaker 2: High Team speaker Mallard was one of the main reasons

2090
01:37:28,452 --> 01:37:32,492
Speaker 2: for the demise of parliamentary standards. Is Tony, Matt and Tyler.

2091
01:37:32,492 --> 01:37:35,572
Speaker 2: I've been discussing how Luxeon's been treated at netball final

2092
01:37:35,652 --> 01:37:38,173
Speaker 2: where he was invited to along with wife and daughter.

2093
01:37:38,213 --> 01:37:41,253
Speaker 2: He was booed. You know that's isn't an booing someone

2094
01:37:41,333 --> 01:37:44,732
Speaker 2: like that like them? I hate him. That is vileent

2095
01:37:44,853 --> 01:37:49,452
Speaker 2: and ignorant behavior. Many do not or understand anything about politics.

2096
01:37:49,452 --> 01:37:54,412
Speaker 2: Pathetic journalists are not professional, m or unbiased, push their

2097
01:37:54,412 --> 01:37:59,173
Speaker 2: own agenda, often lending no comparison to yester year very

2098
01:37:59,173 --> 01:38:03,612
Speaker 2: professional ones. Yeah, it's I mean I always think that

2099
01:38:03,692 --> 01:38:06,572
Speaker 2: like if someone's with their family and you boo them

2100
01:38:06,692 --> 01:38:08,532
Speaker 2: at that thing, that that behavior in the new ball

2101
01:38:08,612 --> 01:38:11,972
Speaker 2: I thought was come on, I mean, person's your prime minister.

2102
01:38:12,053 --> 01:38:15,253
Speaker 2: They've put their hand up this idea that people have

2103
01:38:15,333 --> 01:38:18,372
Speaker 2: that people from the other that you don't agree with

2104
01:38:19,372 --> 01:38:21,253
Speaker 2: are trying to destroy the country. You know, they've just

2105
01:38:21,293 --> 01:38:25,133
Speaker 2: got their idea of what they what is best. Nearly

2106
01:38:25,173 --> 01:38:27,612
Speaker 2: every politician is the idea what's best that might not

2107
01:38:27,652 --> 01:38:30,572
Speaker 2: be right yet to boo them with their family.

2108
01:38:31,612 --> 01:38:34,852
Speaker 3: The vast majority get into politics and people won't agree

2109
01:38:34,893 --> 01:38:36,412
Speaker 3: with this, and that's fine because they get raked up

2110
01:38:36,412 --> 01:38:38,852
Speaker 3: about it. But the vast majority get into politics because

2111
01:38:38,853 --> 01:38:40,932
Speaker 3: they generally want to make New Zealand a better place,

2112
01:38:40,973 --> 01:38:43,532
Speaker 3: whatever side of the oil they're on. But really can

2113
01:38:43,612 --> 01:38:45,532
Speaker 3: hear from you? Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty

2114
01:38:45,572 --> 01:38:46,652
Speaker 3: is the number to call Wayne?

2115
01:38:46,692 --> 01:38:48,333
Speaker 2: See is In my opinion, there's two roles that you

2116
01:38:48,372 --> 01:38:51,253
Speaker 2: wouldn't want in life. The first one is the prime minister.

2117
01:38:51,732 --> 01:38:53,532
Speaker 2: The second is a losing all blex kids.

2118
01:38:53,692 --> 01:38:55,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, both of those would be very tough. All right,

2119
01:38:55,732 --> 01:38:58,333
Speaker 3: headlines coming up then we're taking your calls. It is

2120
01:38:58,412 --> 01:38:59,612
Speaker 3: twenty eight to.

2121
01:38:59,612 --> 01:39:05,012
Speaker 19: Four youth talks that'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis

2122
01:39:05,013 --> 01:39:08,092
Speaker 19: there's no trouble with a blue bubble. The government's tearing

2123
01:39:08,133 --> 01:39:10,293
Speaker 19: down on red tape to make it easier for new

2124
01:39:10,293 --> 01:39:13,772
Speaker 19: players to enter the supermarket sector. It's received at twenty

2125
01:39:13,812 --> 01:39:17,412
Speaker 19: four submissions from existing and prospective grocery businesses on the

2126
01:39:17,452 --> 01:39:21,293
Speaker 19: problems they face setting up in New Zealand. Concussion experts

2127
01:39:21,333 --> 01:39:25,253
Speaker 19: are comparing Playant's trade events to dwarf tossing, where real

2128
01:39:25,333 --> 01:39:28,772
Speaker 19: human risk is turning into a spectacle. Researchers from the

2129
01:39:28,812 --> 01:39:31,532
Speaker 19: Repercussion Group are calling for an outright ban on the

2130
01:39:31,572 --> 01:39:34,852
Speaker 19: activity involving two people running head on into each other

2131
01:39:35,133 --> 01:39:38,772
Speaker 19: without protective gear. A man has died following a single

2132
01:39:38,853 --> 01:39:42,213
Speaker 19: vehicle crash on State Highway ninety three. Old Coach Road

2133
01:39:42,253 --> 01:39:45,532
Speaker 19: and Kluther emergency services were called to the crash between

2134
01:39:45,572 --> 01:39:48,612
Speaker 19: Dods and Hearst Roads around ten to fifteen this morning.

2135
01:39:49,412 --> 01:39:52,572
Speaker 19: Deputy Prime Minister David Seymour has been given in Order

2136
01:39:52,612 --> 01:39:57,372
Speaker 19: of Merit by Ukrainian President Volodimir Zelenski. Mahi for Ukraine

2137
01:39:57,412 --> 01:40:00,572
Speaker 19: founder Katarina Tersk has also been given the award, but

2138
01:40:00,692 --> 01:40:04,092
Speaker 19: no other key we top politicians make the list. Plus

2139
01:40:04,093 --> 01:40:06,652
Speaker 19: why Kiwi fruit may be the perfect snack See the

2140
01:40:06,652 --> 01:40:10,092
Speaker 19: full storied NZT Herald Premier. Now back to Masson Tymer.

2141
01:40:10,333 --> 01:40:13,052
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy, And we are talking about

2142
01:40:13,053 --> 01:40:16,173
Speaker 3: politicians in twenty twenty five. Is it just too hard

2143
01:40:16,253 --> 01:40:19,973
Speaker 3: to punishing to put yourself forward as a politician in

2144
01:40:20,013 --> 01:40:21,652
Speaker 3: this day and age. Let's say from.

2145
01:40:21,492 --> 01:40:23,333
Speaker 2: Here this Texas says it's not too hard. We're just

2146
01:40:23,372 --> 01:40:27,932
Speaker 2: breeding pussies with no balls, male and female. Okay, okay,

2147
01:40:28,093 --> 01:40:31,572
Speaker 2: thank you for that very descriptive how dare you? Have

2148
01:40:31,652 --> 01:40:35,012
Speaker 2: Grant Robinson on how dare you? After the debt we face?

2149
01:40:35,093 --> 01:40:37,892
Speaker 2: How dare you? I know you don't support the borrowing,

2150
01:40:38,093 --> 01:40:41,372
Speaker 2: you have made that clear, but you are now complicit, Matt.

2151
01:40:41,933 --> 01:40:44,173
Speaker 2: You can't disagree with the politician and then have them

2152
01:40:44,173 --> 01:40:46,052
Speaker 2: on how do you? It's just from Gretis THUMBOO.

2153
01:40:46,293 --> 01:40:48,012
Speaker 3: It's a lot of how do you?

2154
01:40:48,372 --> 01:40:49,573
Speaker 2: How dare you?

2155
01:40:49,572 --> 01:40:52,253
Speaker 8: You've stolen my dreams in my childhood?

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Speaker 2: How dare you? Damn I gret At Thumbing, I've lost it.

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01:40:55,532 --> 01:40:59,493
Speaker 2: How dare you? How dare you? You've stolen my dreams

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01:40:59,612 --> 01:41:02,293
Speaker 2: and my childhood? Now dare you?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That's that nailed it?

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01:41:04,053 --> 01:41:11,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, but that's amazing. Bunberg has stopped protesting for

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01:41:11,333 --> 01:41:13,133
Speaker 2: fifteen seconds to text us a.

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01:41:13,213 --> 01:41:14,612
Speaker 3: Big fan of the show Greddit fifteen.

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01:41:14,652 --> 01:41:15,293
Speaker 2: How dare you?

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is number two, Dallas,

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Speaker 3: welcome for the show.

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01:41:21,173 --> 01:41:21,892
Speaker 15: How dare you?

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01:41:22,053 --> 01:41:26,213
Speaker 24: Matt Thort try to put your debt onto your poor

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01:41:26,333 --> 01:41:27,372
Speaker 24: sister in Dunedin.

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01:41:28,812 --> 01:41:30,132
Speaker 3: That's the worst part, Dallas.

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01:41:30,253 --> 01:41:32,412
Speaker 2: I've stolen her dreams in her childhood.

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01:41:34,173 --> 01:41:37,532
Speaker 24: So Grant, if you're listening, Grant, thanks for all you've

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01:41:37,572 --> 01:41:39,812
Speaker 24: done for us, and good luck for the book, and

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01:41:40,333 --> 01:41:42,372
Speaker 24: make sure you get that two hundred dollars off Matt

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01:41:42,933 --> 01:41:49,013
Speaker 24: and not his poor sister. But my point is politics

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01:41:49,093 --> 01:41:51,972
Speaker 24: is changing. And I don't know you've heard about Gavin Newsoon,

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Speaker 24: the presidential candidate for twenty eight it looks like anyway,

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01:41:58,093 --> 01:42:04,932
Speaker 24: the Democratic presidential candidate. So he's adopted Trump's own language

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01:42:04,933 --> 01:42:12,293
Speaker 24: and style on social media, like talking to caps and

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01:42:12,652 --> 01:42:18,133
Speaker 24: saying make Mega make America Gavin again, Gavin News and

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01:42:18,253 --> 01:42:23,213
Speaker 24: this kind of thing. So his point is that things

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01:42:23,213 --> 01:42:23,892
Speaker 24: are changing.

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01:42:24,253 --> 01:42:25,412
Speaker 13: People have no.

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01:42:28,532 --> 01:42:31,732
Speaker 24: Concentration more than like a mosquito, so that it's becoming

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01:42:31,772 --> 01:42:34,492
Speaker 24: like TikTok politics now. And you notice that if you

2186
01:42:34,572 --> 01:42:38,452
Speaker 24: can't say your message in thirty seconds, you're nothing. Now

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01:42:38,652 --> 01:42:41,772
Speaker 24: it's like everything's changing it's it's going to you've got

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01:42:41,812 --> 01:42:46,932
Speaker 24: to be slightly crazy, slightly outrageous to get your point across.

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01:42:47,013 --> 01:42:47,772
Speaker 24: What do you think of that?

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01:42:48,372 --> 01:42:50,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting and I've been following that. That's the

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01:42:50,812 --> 01:42:54,213
Speaker 2: Gavin us In situation, and recently they showed because of

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01:42:54,253 --> 01:42:56,692
Speaker 2: course it's not Gavin news In writing them. He's got

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01:42:56,732 --> 01:42:58,892
Speaker 2: a team that's writing those things out in the director

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01:42:58,893 --> 01:43:02,612
Speaker 2: of as being out Trump Trump. But it's funny when

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01:43:02,732 --> 01:43:05,532
Speaker 2: people on you know, like himself in the past and

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01:43:05,893 --> 01:43:08,053
Speaker 2: other people in the Democratic Party have been outraged at

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01:43:08,053 --> 01:43:12,253
Speaker 2: the way Trump has behaved and if Gavin Newsom's going

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01:43:12,333 --> 01:43:14,492
Speaker 2: to do it back, then it kind of takes one

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Speaker 2: of the biggest attacks against Trump away from from the

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Speaker 2: Democratic Party. I would say, because you know, you've been

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01:43:21,452 --> 01:43:24,372
Speaker 2: so outraged at Trump and now you know, if it's

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01:43:24,372 --> 01:43:27,052
Speaker 2: convenient to you, you're going to run the same attack lines.

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01:43:27,452 --> 01:43:29,492
Speaker 2: It's an interesting path. I'm be interesting there if it

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01:43:29,532 --> 01:43:30,012
Speaker 2: pays off.

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01:43:30,893 --> 01:43:33,692
Speaker 24: The interesting thing is that the MAGA support is they

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01:43:33,692 --> 01:43:38,253
Speaker 24: don't do irony or sarchism. So getting really outraised Agarin

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01:43:38,333 --> 01:43:41,452
Speaker 24: Nusan not realizing that he's taking it the mickey out

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01:43:41,492 --> 01:43:44,293
Speaker 24: of trub You know, do you think I think the

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01:43:44,333 --> 01:43:47,333
Speaker 24: problem for Gavin Newson is it doesn't feel authentic.

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01:43:47,412 --> 01:43:50,253
Speaker 2: For whatever you think about Trump, his nicknames and the

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01:43:50,293 --> 01:43:55,013
Speaker 2: things he says anybody blasts out are Trump, Whereas I

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01:43:55,772 --> 01:43:58,972
Speaker 2: think people can sense that Gavin Newson is trying a thing,

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01:43:59,053 --> 01:44:01,173
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean, He's trying a strategy.

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01:44:01,213 --> 01:44:04,253
Speaker 2: He's got a team that's pushing it, and so there

2215
01:44:04,372 --> 01:44:06,853
Speaker 2: might be an authenticity problem for him.

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01:44:07,293 --> 01:44:11,452
Speaker 24: Yeah, but I just think, well on, good on for

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01:44:11,492 --> 01:44:12,452
Speaker 24: having a sense of humor.

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01:44:12,973 --> 01:44:15,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting seeing that the people that are doing it.

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01:44:15,532 --> 01:44:17,293
Speaker 2: He's got these young people that are just sitting there

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01:44:17,333 --> 01:44:20,053
Speaker 2: full time, just blasting it out, which is interesting for

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01:44:20,093 --> 01:44:22,572
Speaker 2: Trump because Trump has someone that follows him around. Have

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01:44:22,572 --> 01:44:25,772
Speaker 2: you seen that? He just ran and raves and he's

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01:44:25,812 --> 01:44:26,733
Speaker 2: got a person.

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01:44:26,452 --> 01:44:31,972
Speaker 3: There, just got a human dictator full noise. Yeah, hey,

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Speaker 3: you thank you for your call, Dallas. Would you go

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01:44:33,532 --> 01:44:37,652
Speaker 3: into politics? Would you go into politics? Would you go

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01:44:37,692 --> 01:44:38,852
Speaker 3: into politics in this climate?

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01:44:40,133 --> 01:44:40,612
Speaker 4: No? Way?

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01:44:40,893 --> 01:44:43,612
Speaker 24: And you notice that just Sinda looks a lot better

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01:44:43,652 --> 01:44:47,372
Speaker 24: these days too. She looked really tired. It's really tiring.

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01:44:47,652 --> 01:44:51,093
Speaker 24: Being Prime minister is really a tough gig. Yeah, you know,

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01:44:52,013 --> 01:44:55,333
Speaker 24: you know, it's twenty it's such a tough gig being

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01:44:55,372 --> 01:44:57,452
Speaker 24: Prime Minister because you always have to go on, you

2234
01:44:57,452 --> 01:45:00,012
Speaker 24: have to be across everything. It's a really hard gig.

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01:45:00,333 --> 01:45:02,052
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for your call, Dallas.

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01:45:02,093 --> 01:45:02,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, great call.

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01:45:04,253 --> 01:45:09,133
Speaker 7: How dare you you have stolen my Trea in my

2238
01:45:09,333 --> 01:45:13,652
Speaker 7: childhood with your empty words, and yet I'm one.

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01:45:13,492 --> 01:45:14,412
Speaker 5: Of the lucky ones.

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Speaker 2: People are suffering, people are dying and dire.

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01:45:21,013 --> 01:45:23,772
Speaker 5: Ecosystems are collapsing.

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01:45:23,893 --> 01:45:27,412
Speaker 13: We are in the beginning of a mass extinction and

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01:45:27,492 --> 01:45:28,213
Speaker 13: all you can.

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01:45:28,093 --> 01:45:31,492
Speaker 3: Talk about powerful. So that was effectively that text and

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01:45:31,532 --> 01:45:32,213
Speaker 3: audio form.

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01:45:32,572 --> 01:45:36,253
Speaker 2: How dare you have Grant robertson on the show, how

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01:45:36,532 --> 01:45:40,253
Speaker 2: dare you You've stolen my dreams and my childhood?

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01:45:40,732 --> 01:45:44,532
Speaker 3: And beautiful mate, it's nineteen two four. Love to hear your.

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01:45:44,372 --> 01:45:48,413
Speaker 1: Thoughts, mad Heath Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon

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Speaker 1: rolls on Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

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01:45:52,293 --> 01:45:53,532
Speaker 3: It'd be every good afternoon.

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01:45:53,612 --> 01:45:53,772
Speaker 11: Juu.

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01:45:53,853 --> 01:45:56,372
Speaker 3: And we are talking about getting into politics in twenty

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01:45:56,412 --> 01:45:59,053
Speaker 3: twenty five? Is it just too hard to punishing for

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01:45:59,213 --> 01:46:02,173
Speaker 3: most of the good people out there to even consider it?

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01:46:02,532 --> 01:46:05,293
Speaker 3: Considering some of the abuse that politicians face these days

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01:46:05,293 --> 01:46:06,812
Speaker 3: on both sides of the Aisle of eight hundred and

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01:46:06,853 --> 01:46:07,973
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighties and number to call.

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01:46:08,732 --> 01:46:11,133
Speaker 2: And look, we've took to Grant before, and tell you what.

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01:46:11,213 --> 01:46:14,532
Speaker 2: It's fired up the text machine to say he fronts

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01:46:14,532 --> 01:46:17,412
Speaker 2: for radio with verbal rubbish, but could not show his

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01:46:17,572 --> 01:46:21,333
Speaker 2: face at the COVID inquiry. I'm surprised you have had

2263
01:46:21,412 --> 01:46:26,652
Speaker 2: him on Brett. Hey boys, only angry learney lefties, boo people,

2264
01:46:27,133 --> 01:46:29,852
Speaker 2: level headed writies. Just keep their opinions to themselves and

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01:46:29,933 --> 01:46:31,013
Speaker 2: get on with it.

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01:46:31,612 --> 01:46:32,452
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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01:46:32,933 --> 01:46:35,093
Speaker 2: Grant was asking for sympathy. He wasn't asking for that

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01:46:35,173 --> 01:46:37,492
Speaker 2: when piling debt onto New Zealand. Grant needs to own

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01:46:37,612 --> 01:46:38,812
Speaker 2: up for what he did. Yep.

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01:46:38,933 --> 01:46:41,333
Speaker 3: Nine two is a text number. Keep him coming through.

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01:46:42,253 --> 01:46:43,253
Speaker 3: Well that's a nice one.

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01:46:43,452 --> 01:46:45,972
Speaker 2: Well, US Texas is gentlemen, would like to send a

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01:46:45,973 --> 01:46:48,053
Speaker 2: message to Grant Robinson thank you for your service. So

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01:46:48,333 --> 01:46:51,052
Speaker 2: I'll tell you it. It's firing up in the text machine.

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01:46:51,133 --> 01:46:52,973
Speaker 3: Highly divided, but we love it.

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01:46:53,013 --> 01:46:54,652
Speaker 2: So I mean, I mean, coming out of COVID, you've

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01:46:54,652 --> 01:46:59,253
Speaker 2: got to say things have rammed up, haven't they They have?

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01:46:59,492 --> 01:47:03,852
Speaker 2: I think I think that's that's undeniable. Yep. And look,

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01:47:04,133 --> 01:47:05,972
Speaker 2: as I said before, I mean and so many people

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01:47:05,973 --> 01:47:09,612
Speaker 2: are texting in saying they just would not go into politics.

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01:47:09,692 --> 01:47:12,652
Speaker 2: It just seems too horrible and dirty and everything gets

2282
01:47:12,732 --> 01:47:15,252
Speaker 2: ripped down, and you know, every part of you gets abused.

2283
01:47:15,652 --> 01:47:17,412
Speaker 2: I mean, you just got to look at the amount

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01:47:17,412 --> 01:47:19,812
Speaker 2: of abuse our primeuster get. I mean they did. Used

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01:47:19,812 --> 01:47:22,612
Speaker 2: to call Rob Muldoon Piggy Muldoon back in the day.

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01:47:22,692 --> 01:47:24,973
Speaker 3: That's right, yep. He gave it back though you know,

2287
01:47:25,013 --> 01:47:25,973
Speaker 3: he was a pretty.

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01:47:25,732 --> 01:47:28,173
Speaker 2: They punched someone of the guts and the cargo that time.

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01:47:28,213 --> 01:47:30,612
Speaker 3: It didn't didn't mind a buzzt up. One hundred and

2290
01:47:30,652 --> 01:47:34,133
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Mark you

2291
01:47:34,173 --> 01:47:36,372
Speaker 3: want to have a chat about the quality of politicians.

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01:47:36,933 --> 01:47:38,772
Speaker 15: No good after men, gentlemen, how are you?

2293
01:47:38,893 --> 01:47:41,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good. What's your thoughts?

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01:47:40,532 --> 01:47:50,173
Speaker 15: I always remember mister Muldoon, he had the laugh yep, yep,

2295
01:47:52,492 --> 01:47:55,812
Speaker 15: been a taxpayer or just being a normal citizen on

2296
01:47:56,173 --> 01:47:57,133
Speaker 15: the outside.

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01:47:56,732 --> 01:47:57,372
Speaker 6: And you watch it.

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01:47:57,853 --> 01:48:02,093
Speaker 15: You know, we had great leaders way back a long

2299
01:48:02,173 --> 01:48:04,532
Speaker 15: time ago, you know, right through to the eighties and

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01:48:04,572 --> 01:48:08,812
Speaker 15: then through the nineties. But ever since then, social media

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01:48:08,893 --> 01:48:12,893
Speaker 15: is coming. I think that's a very easy platform to

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01:48:13,013 --> 01:48:16,012
Speaker 15: lab you so on on either members of the parties

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01:48:16,013 --> 01:48:18,732
Speaker 15: and stuff like that. But when you've when you would

2304
01:48:18,732 --> 01:48:22,692
Speaker 15: look when you look at Parliament now and the parties

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01:48:22,732 --> 01:48:25,253
Speaker 15: that are in there, and the way that the whole

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01:48:25,293 --> 01:48:29,372
Speaker 15: Parliament is pairing on and all the thes and the

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01:48:29,412 --> 01:48:33,173
Speaker 15: stuff that's happened recently and lately from certain parties and

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01:48:33,213 --> 01:48:36,733
Speaker 15: other parties or certain people, how can you have confidence

2309
01:48:37,372 --> 01:48:42,253
Speaker 15: or respect for people like that that are being paid

2310
01:48:42,293 --> 01:48:48,372
Speaker 15: by the taxpayer and act out like absolute bloody idiots. Mate.

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01:48:48,532 --> 01:48:54,452
Speaker 15: We've got parties basically now dividing causing division between people.

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01:48:54,933 --> 01:49:01,813
Speaker 15: We've got parties that basically see criminals as new victims.

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01:49:01,612 --> 01:49:03,852
Speaker 2: It's I can see what you're saying. Mark. It's interesting

2314
01:49:03,893 --> 01:49:07,932
Speaker 2: because from one point we're saying colossn't saying social media

2315
01:49:08,133 --> 01:49:10,532
Speaker 2: is creating all this abuse and it's so hard and

2316
01:49:10,572 --> 01:49:14,333
Speaker 2: it's so septic. At the same time, you've got politicians

2317
01:49:14,333 --> 01:49:17,892
Speaker 2: that use that TikTok format and use that social media

2318
01:49:18,412 --> 01:49:21,133
Speaker 2: to create the division to get power. So it goes

2319
01:49:21,173 --> 01:49:22,133
Speaker 2: both ways, doesn't it.

2320
01:49:23,293 --> 01:49:26,412
Speaker 15: I'll call for just look what's taking in society at

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01:49:26,412 --> 01:49:29,652
Speaker 15: the moment. One, people don't like hearing the truth. The

2322
01:49:29,692 --> 01:49:35,492
Speaker 15: truth has become offensive. People don't like hearing what reality

2323
01:49:35,612 --> 01:49:37,532
Speaker 15: is they don't want to deal with it, and then

2324
01:49:37,572 --> 01:49:40,532
Speaker 15: you've got parties that will that will pander to that

2325
01:49:40,612 --> 01:49:43,293
Speaker 15: because then they see it as votes. And then you've

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01:49:43,333 --> 01:49:46,892
Speaker 15: got parties that you know, promise to deliver it and

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01:49:46,933 --> 01:49:48,852
Speaker 15: they don't. The thing about it is, for the last

2328
01:49:48,853 --> 01:49:51,213
Speaker 15: ten to fifteen years, it doesn't matter who's in power.

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01:49:51,532 --> 01:49:54,732
Speaker 15: They've promised us all this, they promised us to the world.

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01:49:55,532 --> 01:49:59,012
Speaker 15: No one's delivered. We've gone, We've had We've got parties

2331
01:49:59,053 --> 01:50:03,893
Speaker 15: that are villa buying, farmers are very back part of

2332
01:50:03,973 --> 01:50:07,652
Speaker 15: the economy. We've got we've got rights and infrastructure and

2333
01:50:07,692 --> 01:50:11,692
Speaker 15: everything else. You know, you've got the maturity of what

2334
01:50:11,812 --> 01:50:14,932
Speaker 15: the level that you see from some of these parties

2335
01:50:14,933 --> 01:50:17,692
Speaker 15: and the people there is beyond a joke. And the

2336
01:50:17,732 --> 01:50:21,213
Speaker 15: sad thing about it is when they leave Parliament they're

2337
01:50:21,213 --> 01:50:23,013
Speaker 15: still going to get the peris off the back of

2338
01:50:23,572 --> 01:50:27,293
Speaker 15: right payers. But the New Zealand is not the country

2339
01:50:27,333 --> 01:50:29,372
Speaker 15: that it used to be. We don't have the leaders

2340
01:50:29,372 --> 01:50:32,372
Speaker 15: that we you know from what do you.

2341
01:50:32,293 --> 01:50:34,933
Speaker 2: Think mark about what we could do? Though? So do

2342
01:50:34,973 --> 01:50:38,013
Speaker 2: you think the current situation where it is pretty septic

2343
01:50:38,093 --> 01:50:41,093
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of abuse for politicians, do you

2344
01:50:41,093 --> 01:50:42,933
Speaker 2: think that is going to lead the best people to

2345
01:50:43,572 --> 01:50:45,973
Speaker 2: come into parliament? Do you think we Well, what do

2346
01:50:45,973 --> 01:50:48,772
Speaker 2: you think would lead to good people putting their hand

2347
01:50:48,812 --> 01:50:49,972
Speaker 2: up and getting into parliament?

2348
01:50:51,093 --> 01:50:54,372
Speaker 15: Well, I think basically you've got to have people with

2349
01:50:54,412 --> 01:50:56,093
Speaker 15: a bit of guts, you've got to have people with

2350
01:50:56,213 --> 01:50:58,772
Speaker 15: common sense, and you've got to have people that aren't

2351
01:50:58,772 --> 01:51:01,173
Speaker 15: afraid to call it how it is, and you've got

2352
01:51:01,213 --> 01:51:05,053
Speaker 15: to have sometimes got to hurt feelings to basically to

2353
01:51:05,093 --> 01:51:07,973
Speaker 15: make sure that the right things. You can't pinder to

2354
01:51:08,572 --> 01:51:12,253
Speaker 15: certain parts society just for the sake of it because

2355
01:51:12,253 --> 01:51:14,253
Speaker 15: you don't want to hurt their feelings. We used to

2356
01:51:14,293 --> 01:51:16,812
Speaker 15: have politicians that said what they were going to do

2357
01:51:16,973 --> 01:51:19,213
Speaker 15: and they did it for the people. You know, New

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01:51:19,293 --> 01:51:22,692
Speaker 15: Zealand's worked hard over the years to end division, as

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01:51:22,692 --> 01:51:25,013
Speaker 15: were all in one. But when you've got certain parties

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01:51:25,412 --> 01:51:29,812
Speaker 15: that are basically blamely trying to cause I've never seen

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01:51:29,933 --> 01:51:33,293
Speaker 15: New Zealand so divided in my life, but Zillans is

2362
01:51:33,333 --> 01:51:35,372
Speaker 15: actually a very unhappy place.

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01:51:35,812 --> 01:51:37,572
Speaker 3: Well yeah, it feels a bit like that out there, Mark,

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01:51:37,612 --> 01:51:39,492
Speaker 3: And you know what you're saying, and you're saying it, well,

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01:51:39,572 --> 01:51:40,933
Speaker 3: but you've got to say there'll be a lot of

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01:51:40,933 --> 01:51:43,772
Speaker 3: good people out there who I'm sure could talk, you know,

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01:51:43,893 --> 01:51:47,572
Speaker 3: straight common sense and not worry too much about offending people.

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01:51:47,572 --> 01:51:50,253
Speaker 3: And a lot of people are so worried about people

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Speaker 3: in their past coming out of the woodwork and making

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Speaker 3: up stories or maybe some indiscretions they had in the

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01:51:55,133 --> 01:51:57,253
Speaker 3: past that comes to the fore and they say, I

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Speaker 3: can't be bothered. O'bviously got a contribution to make to

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Speaker 3: this country, But I see the level of abuse that

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Speaker 3: politicians get and I can't.

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Speaker 2: He's gone, he's given up on you. That question was

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01:52:08,013 --> 01:52:09,093
Speaker 2: so long, Tyler.

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Speaker 3: It was I was just getting rammed up as well.

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01:52:11,013 --> 01:52:12,732
Speaker 3: I was getting so excited about it is as I've

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01:52:12,772 --> 01:52:13,412
Speaker 3: had enough of you.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if it isn't someone statistic it through. It's

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01:52:16,093 --> 01:52:19,372
Speaker 2: the m MP, of course, that it's list MPs, and

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01:52:19,612 --> 01:52:22,532
Speaker 2: it's been able to get play on the fringes that

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01:52:22,532 --> 01:52:25,333
Speaker 2: that that is causing it. I think m MP mixed

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01:52:25,372 --> 01:52:29,532
Speaker 2: with the social media age might be a problem in terms.

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01:52:30,293 --> 01:52:31,973
Speaker 2: The best way to get ahead is to appeal to

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01:52:32,013 --> 01:52:35,572
Speaker 2: TikTok really and and you only need to get your

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Speaker 2: five percent right. So maybe MMP was okay at one point,

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Speaker 2: but there could be a potential that it's that. It

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Speaker 2: just that's a horrible mix between m MP and and

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Speaker 2: social media. It's fair, Warren, are you still there? No, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: something happened there.

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Speaker 3: So Warren, you stood to be an MP. We've only

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01:52:53,492 --> 01:52:56,892
Speaker 3: got about a minute left. And did you not get

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01:52:56,893 --> 01:52:58,532
Speaker 3: elected or you decided to pull out?

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Speaker 26: I know I didn't get elected and didn't get through

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Speaker 26: EMP from your Plymouth New Zealand loyal Party, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 26: it was tough.

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Speaker 3: There was things.

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Speaker 26: We had sprusonairs being trespassed out of where the ballot

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01:53:12,572 --> 01:53:16,932
Speaker 26: boxes were being whatt together on the night, and there

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01:53:16,933 --> 01:53:19,293
Speaker 26: were trespus at seven o'clock and they'll close up at nine.

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01:53:19,333 --> 01:53:23,852
Speaker 26: So the ballot boxes been chucked into cars, interpersonal cars

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01:53:23,853 --> 01:53:26,372
Speaker 26: with no one in them, you know, just one person,

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01:53:26,372 --> 01:53:30,812
Speaker 26: and off they went. There were things like that. Yeah,

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01:53:31,053 --> 01:53:34,532
Speaker 26: you know your papers that you that you signed on

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01:53:34,692 --> 01:53:37,452
Speaker 26: your your ballot paper. You remember the little black spicker

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01:53:37,452 --> 01:53:42,333
Speaker 26: that went over the number the numbering there? Yeah, no

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01:53:42,372 --> 01:53:45,972
Speaker 26: one question that. And there were times where I would

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01:53:45,973 --> 01:53:50,052
Speaker 26: turn up to an event where other MP's were talking

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01:53:50,293 --> 01:53:51,412
Speaker 26: and then I wasn't allowed in.

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01:53:53,692 --> 01:53:55,732
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, it doesn't sound great.

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01:53:55,732 --> 01:53:57,932
Speaker 3: Well, no, that sounds like a hard campaign, but thank

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01:53:57,973 --> 01:54:00,373
Speaker 3: you very much. Right, we're going to play some messages

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01:54:00,652 --> 01:54:03,333
Speaker 3: but would come back very shortly, so many ticks coming

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01:54:03,333 --> 01:54:04,293
Speaker 3: through on this one as well.

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01:54:04,492 --> 01:54:08,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about the abuse that afternoon radio host have

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01:54:08,772 --> 01:54:09,133
Speaker 2: to put up?

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01:54:09,372 --> 01:54:12,533
Speaker 3: We cop a lot. Yeah, yeah, you more than anyone, mate,

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01:54:12,853 --> 01:54:16,972
Speaker 3: But I enjoy it. We love that it's eight to four, the.

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01:54:16,853 --> 01:54:20,812
Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

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01:54:20,812 --> 01:54:21,333
Speaker 1: in between.

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Speaker 4: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

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Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoon to you. It is five

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01:54:28,452 --> 01:54:31,772
Speaker 3: to four and we've had some full noise ticks come

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01:54:31,853 --> 01:54:34,013
Speaker 3: through on nine two nine till we love it. We

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01:54:34,053 --> 01:54:35,093
Speaker 3: absolutely love it.

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01:54:35,613 --> 01:54:37,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a fantastic show. I've got to say

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01:54:37,533 --> 01:54:40,613
Speaker 2: thank you so much for listening today. Thank you so

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01:54:40,693 --> 01:54:43,413
Speaker 2: much for all your calls and texts. I think we

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01:54:43,493 --> 01:54:46,133
Speaker 2: might have broken some kind of record with the amount

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01:54:46,133 --> 01:54:48,133
Speaker 2: of feedback. This's come through definitely in our one hundred

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01:54:48,133 --> 01:54:50,933
Speaker 2: and ninety shows we've done together, Tiler exactly.

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01:54:51,333 --> 01:54:56,413
Speaker 3: Going crazy, thousands and thousands and those accusing us of

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01:54:56,533 --> 01:54:57,852
Speaker 3: just generating rage bait.

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01:54:58,173 --> 01:55:01,333
Speaker 2: How do you have you You've.

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01:55:01,133 --> 01:55:02,772
Speaker 4: Stolen my dreams of my child.

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01:55:03,093 --> 01:55:06,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, very fun show. The full Matt and Tyler afternoons

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01:55:06,013 --> 01:55:07,852
Speaker 2: podcast will be out and about now if you have

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01:55:07,853 --> 01:55:12,253
Speaker 2: missed any about chats. Fantastic chats today, actually.

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01:55:12,133 --> 01:55:14,493
Speaker 3: Really good Travis.

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01:55:14,533 --> 01:55:18,053
Speaker 2: Do you want to hear about Tata across your your

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01:55:18,173 --> 01:55:18,892
Speaker 2: entire work?

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01:55:19,173 --> 01:55:20,133
Speaker 3: Of course?

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01:55:20,373 --> 01:55:25,093
Speaker 2: Yeah? But Tyler, yes, Why am I? Why am I

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01:55:25,133 --> 01:55:27,972
Speaker 2: playing this song by Electric six?

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01:55:29,293 --> 01:55:29,693
Speaker 18: Oh?

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01:55:29,733 --> 01:55:31,812
Speaker 3: This is a fantastic I haven't heard this for years.

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01:55:31,853 --> 01:55:35,253
Speaker 3: It's danger danger high voltage. Some a great chat about

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01:55:35,253 --> 01:55:37,333
Speaker 3: power prices and what people are doing and get a

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01:55:37,333 --> 01:55:39,573
Speaker 3: blanky and yeah they're trying to warm out.

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01:55:39,453 --> 01:55:41,533
Speaker 2: Their power company told someone that was complaining about their

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01:55:41,573 --> 01:55:43,573
Speaker 2: power ball to put on more clothes.

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01:55:43,653 --> 01:55:44,173
Speaker 3: Good advice.

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01:55:44,333 --> 01:55:46,573
Speaker 2: Does seem like quite good advice, doesn't it. The powerful

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01:55:46,613 --> 01:55:51,213
Speaker 2: heatherdople c Ellen is up next until tomorrow afternoon. Give

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01:55:51,253 --> 01:55:54,013
Speaker 2: them a taste of Kiwi all right then see I

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01:55:54,013 --> 01:56:12,253
Speaker 2: love you.

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01:56:08,413 --> 01:56:08,693
Speaker 18: M h.

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Speaker 4: Madam Tyler Tyler.

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