1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Morning, Thanks for having me. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 2: Is Trump mad to be thinking this? To we take 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:05,039 Speaker 2: him seriously? 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: You know, i'd ask you, is threatening to regain the 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Panama Canal by Greenland turned Canada into the fifty first state? Serious? 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: I think what he's proposed here is less serious than 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: some of those. I think he is interested in buying 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Greenland and will look for a way to try to 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: do it. NATO allies Bedan on the issue of Panama Canal, 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: I think he's using the threat of violating the treaties 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: to basically extract something out of the Panamanians, either on 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: immigration or on lower tolfies. So I think on this one, 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: the chances that this could be implemented are slim denon 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: and slim left has already left time. But it is 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: dangerous in its articulation, and that's the real problem. In 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: one fell swoop with the Israeli Prime Minister looking like 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: he just like the cat who swallowed a dozen canaries, 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: President of the United States tethered US credibility and prestige 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: to what some people will regard as force transfer. He's 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: undermined Egypt and Jordan to long standing treaty partners of 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Israel and allies of the US. He's made the idea 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: of Israeli Saudi normalization much more difficult. And he sent 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: this unmistakable signal to authoritarians, including Putin and she that 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: if you want territory, just articulate the fact that you 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: were going to seize it. All in all, it is 26 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: an idea whose time has not yet come. It's not 27 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: ready for prime time. I doubt if he has a strategy, 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,919 Speaker 1: and if he does have a strategy, if he actually 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: tries to do any of this, I think it's going 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: to fundamentally harm American credibility and interest. 31 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: As you mentioned, obviously, Knitt and Yahoo loved it. What 32 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: is the reaction throughout Israel on this. 33 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: Wing is dancing in the streets. I think that was 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: one of the reasons Trump did this. He's provided this 35 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: in now with talking points that he can use to 36 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: keep his government together. Most Israelis don't care about gods, 37 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: They don't care about the humanitarian situation there because of 38 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: the trauma of October seventh, that takes priority. As far 39 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: as mister Nithaniao is concerned. This way help him marginally 40 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: with the Israeli body politics. Majorities want an implementation of 41 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: this deal and an end to the Warren Goza. But Israeli, 42 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: a public opinion rarely ever tapes decisions when it comes 43 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: to national security. So buy and large again. You know 44 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: where you stand in life is where you sit. So 45 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: the right wing will love this, the extremists even more. 46 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: Most Israelis will probably dismiss it. But support for Trump 47 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: in Israel is very high. 48 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: It's one thing for him to muse about finding the 49 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: Palestinians some way to live. But the follow up with 50 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: the comments that he might send in troops the house. 51 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: That's pretty serious stuff, really, isn't it. 52 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think it's serious. It's ludicrous. He'd 53 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: have you already see Republicans, which is rare since loyalty 54 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: is the current corn of the realm and Trump Land. 55 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: But you know, Republicans then Democrats either coming down saying 56 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: it won't work. It's scary, it's crazy. Yeah, So no, 57 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: that's you know, we did set up a something called 58 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: Jlock six months ago to try to deliver assistance. I 59 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: don't know if you follow that issue. Had such logistical 60 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: problems with this heavy seas, faulty construction, uh and the 61 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: project basically collapsed. Cost several hundred million dollars. That was 62 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: only a here to deliver humanitarian aid. Now he's talking 63 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: about what and the American versus into an area roughly 64 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: the size of twice the district of Columbia, with one 65 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: of the highest population densities in the world. It would 66 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: take Israeli fifteen months operating there. Couldn't suppress a moss. 67 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: What makes Trump think that American forces to face with 68 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: an insurgency and they will be faced with an insurgency 69 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: and the part of the mass it'll it'll stand the 70 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: stock way up. Yeah. No, it's a non starter and 71 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: it's not to be taken seriously. 72 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: Aaron, I really appreciate you Tom this morning. Thanks very 73 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: much for it your problem. For more from the Mic 74 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: Housking Breakfast, listen live to news Talks it'd be from 75 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.