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Speaker 2: Hello, are you going new Sealers? And welcome to Matt

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Speaker 2: and Tyler Full Show Podcast number one three nine for Thursday,

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Speaker 2: the fifth of June twenty twenty five. Fantastic show today.

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Speaker 2: Tyler certainly was faoughly enjoyed it. But there's a bunch

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Speaker 2: You need to iron your shirt.

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Speaker 2: We need to get to the party.

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Speaker 5: You need some cheese and bubbles.

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Speaker 2: Yep. So, but I thought it was a great show today.

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Speaker 5: Fantastic show. You had a hot take more on a

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Speaker 5: Absolutely. In the meantime, though, download subscribe, give us a

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Speaker 5: Talk said me, good afternoon to you. Welcome into the

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Speaker 5: show Thursday. Get a Matts.

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Speaker 2: You're not wearing that shirt to the Radio Awards, are you?

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Speaker 6: Tightler?

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Speaker 5: Certainly not. It's not shoot though, wasn't it?

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Speaker 2: It's not bad, but it needs an it.

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Speaker 5: It certainly does need to iron. It's a hard shirt

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Speaker 5: to iron. Actually, I don't know what kind of fabric

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Speaker 5: it is. But no, I've got my suit ready to

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Speaker 5: go right out that door, as to you, as I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, I've got my suit ready to go.

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Speaker 2: I'm not native for six awards. We'll see where we go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, congratulations mates.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to prepare any speeches. I'm just going

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Speaker 5: I saw you making some notes before a couple of notes. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to think, as unaccustomed as I am to speaking,

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Speaker 2: I've they're not delivered ninety minutes and get taken out

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Speaker 2: by security for being on stage too long.

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Speaker 5: Now I understand, I stand you had some issues with

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is there's sometimes in your life when your

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Speaker 2: as something to be exploited. So because the Radio Awards,

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Speaker 2: I went down and I was in my cupboard and

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Speaker 2: I was deciding what suit I was going to wear,

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Speaker 2: at the shoes, and I noticed that all the laces

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Speaker 2: had been taken. And so my sons, you know, they'll

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Speaker 2: regularly steal my undies and my socks, and I get that,

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Speaker 2: but they've gone through and just rinsed me of laces.

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Speaker 2: So this is the way they look at the world.

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Speaker 2: They go, oh, my school shoes don't have lacers. They

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Speaker 2: don't go, Dad, could you get me some laces? They go,

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Speaker 2: I'll just take laceers off dead shoes. And his special cupboards.

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Speaker 5: So they took them out of the shoes. And you

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Speaker 5: pack of lacers that you store just for an odd

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Speaker 5: occasion like this. No, they took them out of the shoes.

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Speaker 2: Runched my shoes of lacers.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy behavior.

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Speaker 2: I'm just a resource. I seen a text to them saying,

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Speaker 5: That is such a teenager thing, though, isn't that I

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Speaker 5: need some new laceers. I'll just take dads, just strip

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Speaker 2: And at the time they're definitely I'll definitely tell Dad,

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Speaker 2: Then Dad's radio Woods goes to put on as nice shoes,

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Speaker 2: It's the same laces back. They are in terrible. That's

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Speaker 5: Right on to today's show. It is a doozy today

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Speaker 5: After three o'clock, the real cost of owning pets in

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Speaker 5: it is affecting our fury and four legged members of

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Speaker 5: Pitt Insurance. And I think anyone that owns an animal

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Speaker 2: Well, especially if you're paying for pet insurance. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: You go in and you get the food and then

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Speaker 2: Cats will eat anything. Dogs will are even less fussy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I want to get into the details of

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Speaker 2: what are dog's willing to eat? So are you really

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Speaker 2: they're willing to put their nose and what they're willing

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Speaker 5: Yeap, that is going to be a great chat. That's

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Speaker 5: after three o'clock, after two o'clock Aron's and household tas

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Speaker 5: like to do chores, the laundry, go and do some

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Speaker 2: No, of course it isn't. So neither is it okay

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Speaker 2: there was other people around. You can't be doing your laundry.

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Speaker 2: You can't be changing the bed sheets, doing the ironing, chasing,

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You've got to be working that you're getting paid to work.

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Speaker 2: You're getting paid to be You can't come on right like, look,

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Speaker 2: would you leave this show? You nowhere on their now yep?

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Speaker 2: Would you leave the show to get a haircut?

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Speaker 5: I often go down and get your coffee. So you know,

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Speaker 5: is that a chore? That's definitely a chore for me.

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Speaker 5: It's part of the list of things you have to

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Speaker 5: do that's going to be a great chet up.

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Speaker 2: And how come you didn't replace the shoelacers on my shoes? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well you didn't ask me.

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Speaker 5: That is half to two o'clock and a half to one.

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Speaker 5: Well right now, actually it there's one o'clock right now.

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Speaker 5: Warrants of fitness.

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Speaker 2: This woman Jenny's texts. You guys have no idea about dog?

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Speaker 5: About what singular?

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Speaker 2: Yeah about dog?

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Speaker 5: Okay, well we talked to Jenny after three o'clock. Warrants

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Speaker 5: of fitness. We were going to talk about this yesterday,

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Speaker 5: but we got sidetracked with cremation chat. But an Auckland mechanic.

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Speaker 5: He has been given home detention for fraudulent warrants. But Matt,

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Speaker 5: this head. You thinking about wafts in general and how

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Speaker 5: we implement that that particular system.

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Speaker 2: You don't like it, Get rid of warrants, get word

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Speaker 2: of warrants of fitness. Modern vehicles are highly reliable. It's

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Speaker 2: a totally different ballgame. Now than it used to be.

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Speaker 2: Mechanical failure is a rare cause of accents, incredibly rare,

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Speaker 2: less than one percent. Australia, California and the Netherlands. They

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Speaker 2: have reduced or eliminated routine inspections and they haven't compromised

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Speaker 2: SAT safety at all. You've got household spending hundreds of

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Speaker 2: dollars a year on these warrant of fitnesses, warrants of

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Speaker 2: fitness apologies, Ah, you did it, and plus and so

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Speaker 2: that it's bad for productivity. You've got people wasting their

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Speaker 2: time when they could being more productive and doing more

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Speaker 2: productive things in their life than getting warrants of fitness

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Speaker 2: that they don't need. And also the resources could be

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Speaker 2: spent elsewhere. Let's target high risk or visibly unsafe vehicles.

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Speaker 2: You did a deep dive on this last night. We

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Speaker 2: when it comes to our WAFT system.

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Speaker 5: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Victoria and Western Australia no routine inspections unless the vehicle

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Speaker 2: there is no warrant of fitness except for when you

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Speaker 2: sell the car. They have small tests. That different thing

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Speaker 2: the Netherlands. The Netherlands exits passengers vehicles from inspections for

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Speaker 2: the first four years after purchase. Then it's by bi

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Speaker 2: failure rates in new vehicles, so you definitely look, I say,

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Speaker 2: get rid of them completely except for on sale and

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Speaker 2: on registration. Yep, that's what I believe. But also if

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Speaker 2: not that first seven years of a new vehicle's life,

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Speaker 2: I mean, warrants itself, doesn't it.

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Speaker 5: I'd agree with that.

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Speaker 2: On the screen, it's telling you every problem that you

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Speaker 2: could possibly have on the screen.

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Speaker 5: As someone that recently purchased a new vehicle, absolutely, I'm

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Speaker 5: down for that. There's no point to take that vehicle

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Speaker 5: in for a warrant. I think I've got to go

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Speaker 5: back in this year and it's only three years old.

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Speaker 5: But can you hear from you, I we eighte hundred

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Speaker 5: and eighty ten eighty what I don't like about our

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Speaker 5: warrant system. I still think there's inconsistency and going back

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Speaker 5: to this particular story, clearly this guy was absolutely in

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Speaker 5: the wrong and he's been sentenced to home detention for that.

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Speaker 5: One hundred ccent not supporting this guy, but the inconsistency

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Speaker 5: is still there with our warrant system where and we've

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Speaker 5: all done it that you go to one mechanic and

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Speaker 5: they pull you up for something that you think might

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Speaker 5: be minor, might be a bit of a fog on

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Speaker 5: the headlights, it might be a bit of sun fading

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Speaker 5: on the seat belts, and then you take it to

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Speaker 5: another mechanic and they take it off. So that to

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Speaker 5: me is a system that is not working. If one

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Speaker 5: mechanic says that's not going to pass, another mechanics says, yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's sneak through, that's okay. Is that a system that's

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Speaker 5: really working?

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Speaker 2: No, No, I just get rid of the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: It's a waste of time, all right, I eighty ten

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Speaker 5: B news talks. There be warrants of fitness Matt, you

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Speaker 5: think we should get rid of that system altogether, as

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Speaker 2: I mean the fact that some cars have to be

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Speaker 2: Oh no, there's biannual and there's b annual be any

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Speaker 2: Netherlands it's biennial, which means every two years. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: by anniel would be twice a year. Right, So sometimes

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, if your cars old enough, you have

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Speaker 5: Just twice a year, yeah, every six months.

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Speaker 2: And I say we shouldn't have to get them at all.

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Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eightyens they number to.

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Speaker 2: Call Brianni, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Hello, how are you good by guys.

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Speaker 8: I had a point just to take their safety with

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Speaker 8: warranting cars. Hey, we've got good cars, Yeah, no problem.

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Speaker 8: But I know a lot of people met wouldn't. But

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Speaker 8: You just have to watch the police Team seven programs,

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Speaker 8: or someone else. It's there anything boy racers look at

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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, but you know when you look at

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Speaker 2: that would be picked up in a warrant. What causes

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just the tires, like yeah, well not.

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Speaker 2: Even even if you even if you include even if

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the people at the moment haven't got much money.

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Speaker 8: They're going to buy food before worrying about their tires

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Speaker 8: on so much mul that I look at it whereas

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Speaker 8: Like when you look at the economy, maybe in Auckland

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Speaker 3: Some people just.

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Speaker 5: Oh, oh, I love bron House, lost your Bronnie. I

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Speaker 2: I hope she hasn't skidded off the road on ball tires.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I mean that kind of happens anyway, It doesn't

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Speaker 5: it look I understand what Bonnie was saying, but that

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Speaker 5: the police. But that would be what happens in other jurisdictions, right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. See that's what I think. I think across the

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Speaker 5: Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty love to

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Speaker 5: hear your thoughts on this one. It is twenty one bars.

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Speaker 1: One putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic

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Speaker 10: The grocery commissioner has got some ideas, Pervander, hidden is

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Speaker 11: We've done a market study which indicated some issues.

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Speaker 10: Just to be clear, are these things going to happen

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Speaker 11: Know they not just ideas. The draft code has been published.

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Speaker 2: So just once again to try and be clear.

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Speaker 10: Are you doing this it will start tomorrow or are

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Speaker 10: you in some sort of consultative process.

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Speaker 11: As a regulator. We have to consult only a six

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Speaker 10: Go, and that decision is final and will be enacted.

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Speaker 11: That's correct.

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Speaker 10: Back tomorrow at six am the mic hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 5: Very good afternoon to you. Is our warrant of fitness

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Speaker 5: system to excessive Matt. You absolutely think it's too excessive.

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Speaker 5: You think it needs to be done away with completely absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I believe this what lances take it through here. Guys,

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Speaker 2: our warrant doesn't make your car safe. The police would

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Speaker 2: still ticket you for a car not up to safety standard.

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Speaker 2: It just puts the responsibility back on the owner. I

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Speaker 2: agree it should be. You should assume that people will

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Speaker 5: Yep, I got a question for you. In Germany, so

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Speaker 5: they're interval between inspections thirty two thousand k's on a car.

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Speaker 5: How would you feel about a warrant of fitness system

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that would make more sense. Absolutely. Can

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Speaker 2: This Texas is Matteith. I hope you get smashed into

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Speaker 2: How I'm going to say that we're giffing dead. You

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Speaker 2: talk crap like this. Warrants of fitnesses. We've made that mistake, Sally,

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Speaker 2: you made yesterday Warrants of fitness Dear Texter, but no

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Speaker 2: il read what you said. Warrants of fitnesses. They've done

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Speaker 5: Well, there's no excuse for a text. I mean, you

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Speaker 5: write that out and you review it, so carry.

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Speaker 2: On, so idiot, you'll end up in a wheelchair and

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Speaker 5: Wow, okay text, Okay, Well, if you're on a respond

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Speaker 12: Look, they keep changing the system. I left college in

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Speaker 12: The cars were delivered by road. We drove them up

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Speaker 12: Even though and just come out of the General Motors

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Speaker 12: They had to go straight down for a warderful witness.

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Speaker 5: That and how long you go with that? Donald? How

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Speaker 12: But another thing, there's all sorts of things they'd pick

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Speaker 6: They'd tell your light was out.

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Speaker 12: These days, they'd tell you if we got an oil

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Speaker 12: They look right through the under the car for ages.

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Speaker 12: It can take about twenty minutes to examine a car

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Speaker 12: But boss, they had brand new Crests, lovely two tone ones,

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Speaker 2: But isn't it your job donald as a driver to

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Speaker 2: If you've got a car and you're you know, you're

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Speaker 2: shouldn't the owners be on you to make sure that

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Speaker 12: But I was walking around my local town about three

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Speaker 12: One was fine? Well, something like that, and that's going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well think if your call Donald. Now we must

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Speaker 2: point out that in New Zealand you don't need an

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Speaker 2: and your warrant of fitness until in the first three

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Speaker 2: think that should be ten years. Yeah, a new car

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Speaker 2: come on and that should be increasing every year because

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Speaker 2: have more and more indicators on them that there's something wrong.

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Speaker 2: And you know, if you get a warrant fitness. As

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Speaker 2: this person says, Matt, warrant fitness don't stop you getting

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Speaker 2: a ticket for ball tires. Warrant or a waste of

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Speaker 2: time give some people. It gives people a false sense

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Speaker 2: of security. Yeah, yeah, I mean you've still got to

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Speaker 2: be checking your tires, that's the whole thing. So this

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Speaker 2: That that's the problem with warrant warrant to fitnesses warrants again,

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Speaker 2: the problem. You still have to check your car, so

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Speaker 2: personal responsibility.

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Speaker 5: It's catering for dickeads again, because the dickeads are out

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Speaker 5: there that don't care about their bull tires or that

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Speaker 5: their brake lights aren't working. They already exist with the

438
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Speaker 5: warrant system, and I think for most of us we

439
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Speaker 5: check our own tires, right because you don't want to

440
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Speaker 5: be driving a car that as bull tires is going

441
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Speaker 5: to go off the side of the road and kill

442
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Speaker 5: you or somebody else. That was just what normal people do.

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Speaker 5: But love to hear your thoughts on a O eight

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Speaker 5: one hundred and eighty ten eighty. And there was a

445
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Speaker 5: text there before because Donald mentioned as nineteen seventy what

446
00:19:29,053 --> 00:19:30,973
Speaker 5: a pain in the butt to take that in every

447
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Speaker 5: six months if you only take it out for a

448
00:19:33,013 --> 00:19:36,173
Speaker 5: Sunday drive, what every month or so? And so you

449
00:19:36,213 --> 00:19:37,893
Speaker 5: only have fifty k on the clock, and then you've

450
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Speaker 5: got to take it in another six months to get

451
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Speaker 5: a warrant.

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Speaker 2: Get rid of them. So yeah, keep them coming nine

453
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Speaker 2: two nine two, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Even

454
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Speaker 2: all the people that are wishing that I lose my

455
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Speaker 2: legs for even suggesting it. Angry, angry people.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Headline with Raylene coming up, bring.

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Speaker 6: It on.

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Speaker 15: Us talk said, the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

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Speaker 15: no trouble with a blue bubble. The World's Meteorological Organization

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Speaker 15: also notes the destructive impacts of extreme rainfall and flooding.

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Speaker 15: The Resources Minister says data showing our gas reserves are

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Speaker 15: down twenty seven percent on last year justifies the government

466
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Speaker 15: Prime Minister's office as staffer who's resigned over accusations he

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Speaker 15: recorded sex workers and took compromising photos of women he

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Speaker 15: didn't know. Auckland's mayor and his deputy, Wayne Brown and

471
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Speaker 15: Desley Simpson have announced they'll run together again in October's

472
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Speaker 15: local elections. The Disabilities Support Services Task Force will continue

473
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Speaker 15: the budget over four years. Industry and shock after Auckland

475
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Speaker 15: filmmaker jailed for child's sexual abuse material. You can read

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Speaker 15: more at Ensen Herald Premium. Now back to Matteath Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much, Trailan, And we're talking about the

478
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Speaker 5: warrant of fitness system we have in New Zealander. Is

479
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Speaker 5: it over the top, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: It's amazing how many people want to be treated like children.

481
00:21:20,013 --> 00:21:21,653
Speaker 2: The six It says, if you guys are going to

482
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Speaker 2: encourage a looser a loosening of standards, you're going to

483
00:21:25,733 --> 00:21:29,173
Speaker 2: kill people. End of everyone checking their own vehicle safety,

484
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Speaker 2: ha ha ha, Ellen, why can't people check their own vehicles?

485
00:21:32,973 --> 00:21:35,693
Speaker 2: I mean, my point is that you know your tires

486
00:21:35,733 --> 00:21:38,493
Speaker 2: can go bored, which is the main problem really, And

487
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Speaker 2: if you look at stats, less than one percent of

488
00:21:40,453 --> 00:21:43,293
Speaker 2: accidents are caused by things that are checked and warrants anyway.

489
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Speaker 2: Accidents are caused by people's behavior on the road, right,

490
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Speaker 2: So if you don't check your tires at all between warrants,

491
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Speaker 2: then you know that you're going to have poor tires anyway, exactly.

492
00:21:55,773 --> 00:21:57,853
Speaker 2: So it's not like the warrant stops you from having

493
00:21:57,933 --> 00:21:58,613
Speaker 2: ball tires.

494
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Speaker 5: And I'd actually argue the warrant system would mean some

495
00:22:01,453 --> 00:22:04,053
Speaker 5: people go with bald tires for longer than they should

496
00:22:04,093 --> 00:22:07,093
Speaker 5: because they rely upon the warrant system. Oh, I'm getting

497
00:22:07,173 --> 00:22:08,893
Speaker 5: checked up in a couple of months. Need to check

498
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Speaker 5: myself because a mechanic will do it for me. So

499
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Speaker 5: that personal responsibility to check your own car would actually,

500
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Speaker 5: in my eyes, increase safety because that's people taking responsibility

501
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Speaker 5: for the vehicle that they're driving, rather than just waiting

502
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Speaker 5: every twelve months because the mechanic's going to sort it out.

503
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and for all these people that want me to

504
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Speaker 2: die in a horrific accident because of suggesting this, well,

505
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Speaker 2: they don't do what we do here in New Zealand

506
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Speaker 2: and any of the states in Australia or in California

507
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Speaker 2: or in Netherlands, and they actually have better stats around

508
00:22:38,173 --> 00:22:43,813
Speaker 2: accidents caused by mechanical failures breaks in ball tires in

509
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Speaker 2: those countries.

510
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Speaker 5: Yep, we're an outlier. Yeah, can you get your view though?

511
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Speaker 5: Oh one hundred and eighteen eighty Sean, welcome to the show.

512
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Speaker 5: Yeah you go, Excaine, Yeah, very well, what's your thoughts.

513
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Speaker 7: It's an argument that can go both ways. Honestly that

514
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Speaker 7: if car manufacturers are offering a certain period of warranty

515
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Speaker 7: on the vehicle, then maybe the warrant fitness should be

516
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Speaker 7: applicable to that particular manufacturers warranty.

517
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Speaker 6: Mm.

518
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Speaker 2: Yeah right, So how would that work?

519
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Speaker 7: Well, if many factures offers a five year warranty, then

520
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Speaker 7: basically that that vehicle should just basically have five years

521
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Speaker 7: free warranty fitness.

522
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

523
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Speaker 2: When you say free warrant as you mean you're free

524
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Speaker 2: from having to get a warrant fitness for five years.

525
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Speaker 7: Well, when the when the car goes into at the dealer,

526
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Speaker 7: there should be basic checks that they should be doing

527
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Speaker 7: during that peria to check that the vehicle meets a

528
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Speaker 7: certain level of road compliance. At the end of that's

529
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Speaker 7: not a full warrant of fitness. But the dealer should

530
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Speaker 7: be definitely doing some level of checks tires for example,

531
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Speaker 7: and advising and upselling the customer into new tires and

532
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Speaker 7: taking those advantages. And if if if a brand is

533
00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:04,773
Speaker 7: prepared to back their their product for ten years, well

534
00:24:04,813 --> 00:24:06,653
Speaker 7: then they've got then they're really going to stand by

535
00:24:06,693 --> 00:24:08,893
Speaker 7: it because at the end of the day and then

536
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Speaker 7: they're providing ten years with the warrants.

537
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Speaker 2: Sean, how often do you think a driver should check

538
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Speaker 2: their tires every six months at least? Yeah, i'd saven

539
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Speaker 2: more so, I would saven more often than that. I

540
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Speaker 2: would say, as a driver, your responsibility to check your

541
00:24:23,813 --> 00:24:26,813
Speaker 2: tires gosh, regularly?

542
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say monthly. I'd probably check my tires Sean, generally,

543
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Speaker 5: Like I mean, anytime i'd go slightly out of town,

544
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Speaker 5: I'd be checking the tires. I mean pretty much when

545
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Speaker 5: I check the oil, which is once a month, then

546
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Speaker 5: i'd check the tires as well.

547
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Speaker 7: When you say check your tire precious et cetera, Yeah, regularly,

548
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Speaker 7: But as I said, a general check for call it

549
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Speaker 7: wear and tear. Might you call it? I don't think

550
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Speaker 7: you need to do that to fear too often. I

551
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Speaker 7: think you can get away with it a bit longer.

552
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Speaker 7: But obviously depending on the actual amount of time that

553
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Speaker 7: you're driving. You know, if you're a if you're a

554
00:25:00,653 --> 00:25:03,292
Speaker 7: hard distance driver, then yeah, you've got to check your

555
00:25:03,293 --> 00:25:05,693
Speaker 7: tires a lot more regularly. But if you're just an

556
00:25:05,733 --> 00:25:09,973
Speaker 7: average user between t to fifteen thousand cads a year,

557
00:25:10,013 --> 00:25:11,853
Speaker 7: I think you can probably get away with the watch

558
00:25:11,813 --> 00:25:13,893
Speaker 7: your chicks maybe every three to six months.

559
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it makes a lot of sense what you're

560
00:25:15,973 --> 00:25:18,253
Speaker 5: saying about. If you buy a new car and whoever

561
00:25:18,373 --> 00:25:21,053
Speaker 5: gave you the warranty for that car, say mits to

562
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Speaker 5: BISSI like my card ten year warranty, I've got to

563
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Speaker 5: take it in on a yearly basis to get checked up.

564
00:25:25,293 --> 00:25:27,773
Speaker 5: That should exclude me from a warrant fitness system because

565
00:25:27,773 --> 00:25:29,493
Speaker 5: they're kind of doing the checks anyway.

566
00:25:29,253 --> 00:25:32,693
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, yeah, on that service. They should be doing

567
00:25:32,813 --> 00:25:35,973
Speaker 7: a basic check anyway, just on the overall health of

568
00:25:36,053 --> 00:25:39,693
Speaker 7: your vehicle. And like I said, if you're come in,

569
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Speaker 7: if they're a good dealer and you come in and

570
00:25:42,053 --> 00:25:45,053
Speaker 7: your tires or fairly low, most dealers have got tires

571
00:25:45,053 --> 00:25:47,853
Speaker 7: to stock now that they should be upselling you into

572
00:25:47,933 --> 00:25:49,013
Speaker 7: some new tires anyway.

573
00:25:49,173 --> 00:25:52,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, they certainly do that, and sometimes suspiciously. I've investigated

574
00:25:52,853 --> 00:25:56,213
Speaker 2: a few times. Yeah, when my partner's gone in and

575
00:25:56,253 --> 00:25:58,693
Speaker 2: they've suggested new tires, and then I've gone, hang on

576
00:25:58,733 --> 00:26:00,653
Speaker 2: a minute, didn't they just give you new tires last time?

577
00:26:00,653 --> 00:26:03,292
Speaker 2: Then you have a lock and you go plenty of scumbags?

578
00:26:03,613 --> 00:26:03,893
Speaker 5: Have you?

579
00:26:03,893 --> 00:26:06,573
Speaker 2: Guys? Never failed a warrant of fitness. You're going on

580
00:26:06,653 --> 00:26:10,253
Speaker 2: about personal responsibility, so you have never failed break a leg?

581
00:26:10,253 --> 00:26:13,213
Speaker 2: A little miss perfect again with the legs. People really

582
00:26:13,253 --> 00:26:15,893
Speaker 2: want to take my legs from me because I reckon

583
00:26:15,933 --> 00:26:19,533
Speaker 2: we should take some responsibility and do our own inspections

584
00:26:19,533 --> 00:26:22,533
Speaker 2: of our own cars. Well, I would question. I would

585
00:26:22,573 --> 00:26:25,333
Speaker 2: question a lot of the stuff on the warrant. As

586
00:26:25,373 --> 00:26:28,893
Speaker 2: the stickser said, I failed my waft for one headlight

587
00:26:28,973 --> 00:26:31,293
Speaker 2: slightly brighter than the other. I didn't change the bulb.

588
00:26:31,573 --> 00:26:33,813
Speaker 2: I just got an old one, put it on my

589
00:26:33,933 --> 00:26:36,773
Speaker 2: seat and told them I'd changed it, and surprise, surprise,

590
00:26:36,813 --> 00:26:37,253
Speaker 2: I passed.

591
00:26:37,373 --> 00:26:41,173
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, that's the inconsistencies. Oh eight, one hundred and

592
00:26:41,173 --> 00:26:42,893
Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty is the number to call Love to

593
00:26:42,933 --> 00:26:45,333
Speaker 5: hear your thoughts on this one. We've got to play

594
00:26:45,373 --> 00:26:47,173
Speaker 5: some messages, but we'll come back with more of your cause.

595
00:26:47,213 --> 00:26:48,653
Speaker 5: It is twenty one to two.

596
00:26:48,813 --> 00:26:53,533
Speaker 2: Get rid of the warrant of fitnesses, the issues.

597
00:26:53,173 --> 00:26:55,653
Speaker 1: That affect you, and a bit of fun along the way.

598
00:26:55,893 --> 00:26:58,733
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used.

599
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Speaker 5: Talk, sa'd be it is nineteen two two.

600
00:27:03,173 --> 00:27:05,053
Speaker 2: So many people want to see horrible things to happen

601
00:27:05,093 --> 00:27:07,973
Speaker 2: to me because I don't think we should still have

602
00:27:07,973 --> 00:27:10,053
Speaker 2: one on. This is all on the back of and

603
00:27:10,093 --> 00:27:11,973
Speaker 2: we're not supporting this guy. But he was handing out

604
00:27:12,253 --> 00:27:17,253
Speaker 2: He wasn't licensed handout warrants of fitness, yep, but he did.

605
00:27:17,813 --> 00:27:19,413
Speaker 2: And how many do you hand out? It was quite

606
00:27:19,413 --> 00:27:19,693
Speaker 2: a lot.

607
00:27:20,013 --> 00:27:22,853
Speaker 5: Forty thousand dollars with there's a lot.

608
00:27:22,893 --> 00:27:25,413
Speaker 2: And he's rightfully on home detention. But this is my

609
00:27:25,573 --> 00:27:30,373
Speaker 2: argument against warrants of fitness. Modern vehicles are highly reliable

610
00:27:30,693 --> 00:27:32,773
Speaker 2: and so right now you don't need to get your

611
00:27:33,133 --> 00:27:35,293
Speaker 2: Warwner fitness for the first three years, yep. But I

612
00:27:35,373 --> 00:27:37,533
Speaker 2: think that should be ten or at least fifty thousand

613
00:27:37,573 --> 00:27:40,693
Speaker 2: k's or not at all. Mechanical failure is a very

614
00:27:40,773 --> 00:27:43,093
Speaker 2: rare cause, and the things on Warrener Fitness is a

615
00:27:43,213 --> 00:27:45,173
Speaker 2: very rare cause of accidents. So I think the focus

616
00:27:45,213 --> 00:27:48,853
Speaker 2: should more be on personal responsibility and how people drive

617
00:27:48,893 --> 00:27:50,573
Speaker 2: on the road because that's what causes accidents.

618
00:27:50,613 --> 00:27:50,853
Speaker 13: Yep.

619
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Speaker 5: And you've done the research.

620
00:27:52,173 --> 00:27:55,333
Speaker 2: Yep, done the research. Australia, California and the Netherlands have

621
00:27:55,453 --> 00:28:00,693
Speaker 2: reduced or eliminated routine inspections and they haven't compromised safety.

622
00:28:00,293 --> 00:28:03,573
Speaker 2: That they're no less safe than we are. So that

623
00:28:03,613 --> 00:28:06,413
Speaker 2: sort of wipes that out that argument. And currently people

624
00:28:06,413 --> 00:28:09,053
Speaker 2: are running around having to do these sometimes six monthly

625
00:28:09,093 --> 00:28:14,133
Speaker 2: inspections and you know, we're already busy enough. We need

626
00:28:14,133 --> 00:28:16,532
Speaker 2: to be getting on with being a productive society. We

627
00:28:16,573 --> 00:28:19,213
Speaker 2: need to move on for it. And plus, I think

628
00:28:19,253 --> 00:28:21,013
Speaker 2: the idea that people get is you just go and

629
00:28:21,013 --> 00:28:23,333
Speaker 2: get a warrant and then your car is fine. You've

630
00:28:23,333 --> 00:28:25,213
Speaker 2: got to keep checking your car all the time because

631
00:28:25,293 --> 00:28:28,613
Speaker 2: your lights can can not be working within a year

632
00:28:28,693 --> 00:28:31,573
Speaker 2: period exactly. Your tires can go baled very quickly.

633
00:28:31,693 --> 00:28:31,893
Speaker 5: Yep.

634
00:28:32,093 --> 00:28:34,533
Speaker 2: So the idea that you don't have to check your

635
00:28:34,573 --> 00:28:39,133
Speaker 2: car between warrants of fitness, that's ridiculous.

636
00:28:38,653 --> 00:28:40,893
Speaker 5: And a lot of people think that, oh one hundred

637
00:28:40,893 --> 00:28:43,693
Speaker 5: and eighty ten eighty though, if you disagree with Matt's points,

638
00:28:43,773 --> 00:28:46,053
Speaker 5: or you want to take his legs or welcome to

639
00:28:46,253 --> 00:28:47,733
Speaker 5: what if so many people want to take my life

640
00:28:47,733 --> 00:28:50,173
Speaker 5: and my legs coming for your legs. I love to

641
00:28:50,213 --> 00:28:53,773
Speaker 5: hear from you, though, Denzil. How are you good?

642
00:28:54,173 --> 00:28:56,053
Speaker 3: Best off? I wish you a long and happy life

643
00:28:56,173 --> 00:28:56,853
Speaker 3: with your legs.

644
00:28:57,293 --> 00:29:03,053
Speaker 2: Thank you, Denzil. You're an outlier, Lawrence.

645
00:29:04,773 --> 00:29:06,853
Speaker 3: If you have a new car, you normally get it serviced.

646
00:29:07,493 --> 00:29:09,173
Speaker 3: Should they not do that? Those checks when you get

647
00:29:09,173 --> 00:29:12,933
Speaker 3: it serviced? But my beefers, I'm very old cars, Like

648
00:29:13,053 --> 00:29:15,293
Speaker 3: I've got a nine fifty nine hold and I'm going

649
00:29:15,333 --> 00:29:18,213
Speaker 3: to do six monthly warrants and I'm lucky if I

650
00:29:18,253 --> 00:29:20,013
Speaker 3: do seven hundred miles a year in it.

651
00:29:20,493 --> 00:29:22,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we heard that from previous courly. Well. I

652
00:29:22,733 --> 00:29:24,893
Speaker 2: mean that's ridiculous, isn't it. If it's sitting in the

653
00:29:24,933 --> 00:29:28,733
Speaker 2: garage most of the time between those six month inspections,

654
00:29:29,413 --> 00:29:30,813
Speaker 2: that has to be taken into account.

655
00:29:31,693 --> 00:29:33,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm England have now dropped it. If you cars

656
00:29:33,973 --> 00:29:39,973
Speaker 3: over forty years old, no what we'd call a wife, No,

657
00:29:39,973 --> 00:29:42,733
Speaker 3: no road checks. But if you are called over by

658
00:29:42,773 --> 00:29:46,173
Speaker 3: a police officer and he sees something that is obviously wrong,

659
00:29:46,333 --> 00:29:47,653
Speaker 3: then you have to go get it checked.

660
00:29:48,933 --> 00:29:51,493
Speaker 5: I believe the UK has a similar system to that Germany,

661
00:29:51,573 --> 00:29:55,173
Speaker 5: right that you have to get an inspection with the

662
00:29:55,253 --> 00:29:58,653
Speaker 5: number of kilometers you drive rather than time.

663
00:29:59,453 --> 00:30:02,333
Speaker 3: Unless your cars over forty years old in the totally exempt.

664
00:30:02,453 --> 00:30:05,573
Speaker 5: Oh right, okay, yeah, I mean it's a very fair

665
00:30:05,613 --> 00:30:07,333
Speaker 5: point and a lot of Texas are backing you up

666
00:30:07,373 --> 00:30:09,813
Speaker 5: on that. So you're forty year old cars. I mean

667
00:30:09,853 --> 00:30:11,533
Speaker 5: that with those forty year old cars, a lot of

668
00:30:11,533 --> 00:30:13,813
Speaker 5: the time that you're taken into a warrant, there would

669
00:30:13,813 --> 00:30:15,933
Speaker 5: only be a few chicks that would need to be undertaken,

670
00:30:16,013 --> 00:30:18,213
Speaker 5: right because as I understand it, if a cars old

671
00:30:18,333 --> 00:30:21,613
Speaker 5: enough and some of these laws that we've got about

672
00:30:21,733 --> 00:30:24,893
Speaker 5: seatbouts and about you know, the fog on the headlights

673
00:30:24,893 --> 00:30:26,573
Speaker 5: wouldn't apply to those vehicles anyway.

674
00:30:27,533 --> 00:30:30,773
Speaker 2: No, no, yeap o, Well, thank you so much for

675
00:30:30,813 --> 00:30:36,253
Speaker 2: your text. By text, I mean called Denzil. Appreciate that, Kevin.

676
00:30:36,693 --> 00:30:38,853
Speaker 2: I think you're on the same topic, aren't you has

677
00:30:38,973 --> 00:30:40,653
Speaker 2: your cars on a six monthly is it?

678
00:30:42,093 --> 00:30:42,293
Speaker 4: Yes?

679
00:30:42,413 --> 00:30:42,733
Speaker 6: Yes?

680
00:30:42,813 --> 00:30:45,413
Speaker 4: And I back you up, Matt about what you're saying

681
00:30:45,693 --> 00:30:49,813
Speaker 4: freaking overseas people should take more responsible for going car

682
00:30:49,853 --> 00:30:53,293
Speaker 4: I mean they do everything else. But yeah, I also,

683
00:30:53,453 --> 00:30:55,533
Speaker 4: like you already had a ninety five model car and

684
00:30:55,533 --> 00:30:59,933
Speaker 4: then I sided it by another one which was in

685
00:31:00,093 --> 00:31:03,093
Speaker 4: those nineties as well, and you wouldn't believe it within

686
00:31:03,173 --> 00:31:08,213
Speaker 4: two weeks of two warrants because of six monthfully yeah,

687
00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:09,533
Speaker 4: and bad luck.

688
00:31:11,733 --> 00:31:13,413
Speaker 5: I mean there's no work around. I'm just trying to

689
00:31:13,453 --> 00:31:15,533
Speaker 5: think you can't. It's not like you can de register

690
00:31:15,613 --> 00:31:17,133
Speaker 5: the vehicle because if you want to take it out

691
00:31:17,133 --> 00:31:19,253
Speaker 5: for a Sunday drive every now and again, that doesn't work.

692
00:31:19,293 --> 00:31:20,773
Speaker 5: So you are kind of stuffed if you've got an

693
00:31:20,813 --> 00:31:22,773
Speaker 5: old vehicle, aren't you that you only take out on

694
00:31:22,813 --> 00:31:24,573
Speaker 5: it on a semi regular basis.

695
00:31:25,373 --> 00:31:27,653
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's right. It's not because we can't afford

696
00:31:27,733 --> 00:31:29,973
Speaker 4: new vehicles. I mean I like old vehicles because they're simple,

697
00:31:30,053 --> 00:31:32,533
Speaker 4: you know, like me. Yeah, you can work it out,

698
00:31:33,853 --> 00:31:38,653
Speaker 4: and I mean the stagest thing, just my car, it's

699
00:31:38,693 --> 00:31:41,413
Speaker 4: safer than any new carrier has a twelve month fine.

700
00:31:41,413 --> 00:31:42,853
Speaker 4: It must be a because I have two chicks and

701
00:31:42,853 --> 00:31:44,453
Speaker 4: they only have one, and they can do twice a

702
00:31:44,493 --> 00:31:46,493
Speaker 4: while twelve months. What do I do in six months?

703
00:31:46,613 --> 00:31:46,693
Speaker 15: Right?

704
00:31:46,933 --> 00:31:49,973
Speaker 4: Like the guy with the whole just said, yeah.

705
00:31:49,453 --> 00:31:51,533
Speaker 2: Well exactly thank you for call. Kevin. I appreciate that.

706
00:31:51,613 --> 00:31:52,453
Speaker 5: Can't argue with that.

707
00:31:52,573 --> 00:31:55,773
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, no, what in Australia, too much GSC lost

708
00:31:55,813 --> 00:31:58,813
Speaker 2: government here, parts, tires, et cetera. Greg I mean, yeah,

709
00:31:58,853 --> 00:32:01,373
Speaker 2: And we've had a bunch of texts that have come

710
00:32:01,413 --> 00:32:03,213
Speaker 2: through for people that work in the industry and they're

711
00:32:03,253 --> 00:32:12,573
Speaker 2: saying keep them going because auto mechanic from California here

712
00:32:12,813 --> 00:32:15,173
Speaker 2: wafts are great, loved it when I moved to New Zealand.

713
00:32:15,173 --> 00:32:18,573
Speaker 2: Personal responsibility didn't and doesn't work in California. Well, it's

714
00:32:18,573 --> 00:32:21,253
Speaker 2: funny you should say that because in California they have

715
00:32:21,413 --> 00:32:25,373
Speaker 2: very low rates of accidents caused by mechanical failure. But

716
00:32:25,413 --> 00:32:30,093
Speaker 2: that might be because of the stick of lawsuits. So

717
00:32:30,133 --> 00:32:33,373
Speaker 2: if you scream into someone with no brakes and ball tires,

718
00:32:34,013 --> 00:32:37,533
Speaker 2: then you're going to be absolutely smoked with a lawsuit.

719
00:32:37,693 --> 00:32:40,493
Speaker 5: Yeah, very re litigious. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

720
00:32:40,573 --> 00:32:43,333
Speaker 5: is the number to call. We'll play some messages and

721
00:32:43,533 --> 00:32:45,453
Speaker 5: full lines at the moments. If you can't get through,

722
00:32:45,573 --> 00:32:46,333
Speaker 5: keep trying.

723
00:32:47,013 --> 00:32:48,893
Speaker 2: And for all those people that are still wanting me

724
00:32:48,933 --> 00:32:51,173
Speaker 2: to be in a terrible accident because of my pushing

725
00:32:51,213 --> 00:32:54,653
Speaker 2: back against warrants of fitness. I can tell you right

726
00:32:54,693 --> 00:32:57,973
Speaker 2: now that I do actually current currently have a Haglin's

727
00:32:57,973 --> 00:33:01,653
Speaker 2: deformity on my left foot, so my foot is injured.

728
00:33:01,733 --> 00:33:03,173
Speaker 2: Hopefully that that's enough for you.

729
00:33:03,293 --> 00:33:05,493
Speaker 5: Yeah, without me actually losing stop coming for his legs.

730
00:33:05,773 --> 00:33:07,453
Speaker 5: It is twelve to two.

731
00:33:09,493 --> 00:33:13,093
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

732
00:33:13,093 --> 00:33:15,733
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams

733
00:33:15,733 --> 00:33:17,453
Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talks.

734
00:33:17,253 --> 00:33:20,733
Speaker 5: EDB, News Talk ZB. We're talking about a warrant of

735
00:33:20,773 --> 00:33:23,613
Speaker 5: fitness system. Is it time to rejig it? As it

736
00:33:23,653 --> 00:33:25,933
Speaker 5: too over the top? Mets ears get rid of it?

737
00:33:26,173 --> 00:33:28,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's a sexy saies. Hey lads, what difference

738
00:33:28,453 --> 00:33:30,453
Speaker 2: does a warrant make if you drive like a bloody idiot?

739
00:33:30,453 --> 00:33:32,853
Speaker 2: This is my point. Take responsibility for your own shizz,

740
00:33:33,173 --> 00:33:36,693
Speaker 2: your car, your responsibility. That's from Tracy, I said, that's

741
00:33:36,733 --> 00:33:39,093
Speaker 2: what I mean. Yeah, if you are driving around on

742
00:33:39,133 --> 00:33:42,213
Speaker 2: a car with bull tires and no brakes and no windscreen,

743
00:33:42,973 --> 00:33:47,493
Speaker 2: then you're an idiot. Yeah, and it's already happening right Yeah, Hi,

744
00:33:48,133 --> 00:33:50,973
Speaker 2: you know, but I'll tell you it's interesting before because

745
00:33:50,973 --> 00:33:53,693
Speaker 2: we're talking about California. We had a California mechanic come through.

746
00:33:53,693 --> 00:33:55,773
Speaker 2: And it is interesting with statistics because I said that

747
00:33:56,373 --> 00:33:59,613
Speaker 2: in countries where they don't have warrant of fitness, is

748
00:34:00,413 --> 00:34:02,813
Speaker 2: warrants a fitness like we do here. Yep, they don't

749
00:34:02,813 --> 00:34:07,053
Speaker 2: have any more accidents, you know, than we do here

750
00:34:07,093 --> 00:34:08,852
Speaker 2: that are caused by mechanical or the type of things

751
00:34:08,893 --> 00:34:11,333
Speaker 2: that have looked at warrants of fitness. But it is

752
00:34:11,373 --> 00:34:14,692
Speaker 2: interesting because statistics are always confusing, isn't it so Jesse

753
00:34:14,773 --> 00:34:16,573
Speaker 2: here says it's more to do with the emissions control

754
00:34:16,613 --> 00:34:19,652
Speaker 2: in California. Just means everyone is driving newer cars. So

755
00:34:19,733 --> 00:34:23,212
Speaker 2: because what you're always being you're getting small inspections in California,

756
00:34:23,613 --> 00:34:25,813
Speaker 2: so people can't be bothered with old cars anymore. So

757
00:34:25,853 --> 00:34:29,853
Speaker 2: the fleet is newer, so therefore the mechanical problems are less.

758
00:34:30,053 --> 00:34:33,853
Speaker 2: But that plays into what I'm saying is that new

759
00:34:33,893 --> 00:34:37,333
Speaker 2: cars come on, shouldn't need a warrant of fitness for

760
00:34:37,373 --> 00:34:41,333
Speaker 2: ten years. Yeah, currently it's three years, and each year

761
00:34:41,333 --> 00:34:43,813
Speaker 2: that should be getting longer because cars are getting more

762
00:34:43,813 --> 00:34:45,653
Speaker 2: and more mechanically reliable.

763
00:34:46,013 --> 00:34:48,773
Speaker 5: But then I mean, we're pretty equitable to Australia. They

764
00:34:48,813 --> 00:34:51,373
Speaker 5: don't have a Warrener fitness system. We're pretty equaittable to

765
00:34:51,413 --> 00:34:53,613
Speaker 5: Canada that they don't have a Warren of fitness system.

766
00:34:53,693 --> 00:34:56,813
Speaker 5: Germany has a very different one, which is based on

767
00:34:56,893 --> 00:34:58,212
Speaker 5: kilometers rather than time.

768
00:34:59,773 --> 00:35:01,933
Speaker 2: What is that, Matt, take your top off?

769
00:35:02,053 --> 00:35:03,053
Speaker 5: Okay, all right?

770
00:35:03,173 --> 00:35:05,653
Speaker 2: Does that person know that you've just spiled a coffee?

771
00:35:05,653 --> 00:35:06,413
Speaker 2: Did you say that on here?

772
00:35:06,533 --> 00:35:06,853
Speaker 5: No?

773
00:35:06,853 --> 00:35:08,733
Speaker 2: No, no, because last time the coffe that's a.

774
00:35:08,813 --> 00:35:10,933
Speaker 5: Very I don't know, Rob, Rob always takes that, and

775
00:35:10,973 --> 00:35:12,453
Speaker 5: though doesn't he just wants you to take your top

776
00:35:12,453 --> 00:35:13,692
Speaker 5: off for some reason. Don't know why.

777
00:35:13,893 --> 00:35:17,373
Speaker 2: So can as Rob see into the studio? Maybe maybe

778
00:35:17,413 --> 00:35:20,133
Speaker 2: because at one point I spilled a coffee and I

779
00:35:20,133 --> 00:35:22,493
Speaker 2: whipped my shirt off to stop it going into the electronics.

780
00:35:22,693 --> 00:35:26,093
Speaker 2: Then you spill a coffee, Rob, he's spying on us. Anyway.

781
00:35:26,253 --> 00:35:29,853
Speaker 2: Drivers must check and maintain their vehicles regularly, not just

782
00:35:29,893 --> 00:35:32,893
Speaker 2: for warrant of fitness. Poor maintenance can cause loss of control,

783
00:35:33,733 --> 00:35:36,173
Speaker 2: turning the car into a dangerous weapon or even potential

784
00:35:36,213 --> 00:35:40,213
Speaker 2: weapon of mass destruction. And crowded areas or fast motorways.

785
00:35:40,453 --> 00:35:43,893
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, critixx Blair, you reckon it would have an

786
00:35:43,933 --> 00:35:45,253
Speaker 5: impact on insurance premiums.

787
00:35:46,493 --> 00:35:46,933
Speaker 6: I reckon.

788
00:35:46,973 --> 00:35:49,013
Speaker 16: I would how much are you prepared to pay for

789
00:35:49,053 --> 00:35:53,773
Speaker 16: your insurance if you know you take away the standards

790
00:35:53,773 --> 00:35:56,893
Speaker 16: for your card. You know to meet a minimum level

791
00:35:56,933 --> 00:36:00,573
Speaker 16: of fitness to be on the road. The insurance companies

792
00:36:00,573 --> 00:36:01,013
Speaker 16: aren't going to.

793
00:36:01,053 --> 00:36:03,213
Speaker 6: Say it up. They will.

794
00:36:03,333 --> 00:36:06,652
Speaker 16: They will whack it onto your premiums and or your

795
00:36:06,653 --> 00:36:09,413
Speaker 16: no claims bonus. You might just walk out their grant.

796
00:36:09,733 --> 00:36:12,413
Speaker 2: I don't really know the answer this question. I'm asking you.

797
00:36:12,413 --> 00:36:14,413
Speaker 2: You may not know, but if you are driving around

798
00:36:14,413 --> 00:36:18,293
Speaker 2: even between your warrant, like six months after you've had

799
00:36:18,293 --> 00:36:20,853
Speaker 2: your warrant, and you crash into someone because there's something

800
00:36:20,853 --> 00:36:25,013
Speaker 2: faulty in your car, does the insurance company ping you

801
00:36:25,093 --> 00:36:25,293
Speaker 2: for that?

802
00:36:27,333 --> 00:36:29,973
Speaker 16: If you don't have a warrant a fitness, your insurance

803
00:36:29,973 --> 00:36:31,493
Speaker 16: company are most likely run a mile.

804
00:36:31,813 --> 00:36:32,013
Speaker 6: Yeah.

805
00:36:32,053 --> 00:36:33,773
Speaker 2: No, I'm not talking about that though. I'm talking about

806
00:36:33,933 --> 00:36:36,053
Speaker 2: if you're driving around in a car, because I believe

807
00:36:36,053 --> 00:36:38,573
Speaker 2: it's everyone's personal responsibility to be checking their car a lot,

808
00:36:38,653 --> 00:36:41,613
Speaker 2: and outside of what the government says, you should be

809
00:36:41,693 --> 00:36:43,693
Speaker 2: making sure that all your lights work and your tires

810
00:36:43,693 --> 00:36:47,573
Speaker 2: aren't baled, and running a good car. So I'm just

811
00:36:47,653 --> 00:36:51,293
Speaker 2: wondering if insurance companies, if you have your warrant, but

812
00:36:51,333 --> 00:36:54,973
Speaker 2: then you've let something slip in the in between warrants,

813
00:36:55,613 --> 00:36:58,573
Speaker 2: whether they whether they hassle you, because I think they should.

814
00:36:58,573 --> 00:37:00,213
Speaker 2: If you're driving around on ball tires, whether you've got

815
00:37:00,253 --> 00:37:02,333
Speaker 2: a warrant or not, then that's negligent, isn't it.

816
00:37:03,613 --> 00:37:06,093
Speaker 16: Yeah, we just disclaimer. I don't disagree with everything you

817
00:37:06,213 --> 00:37:09,933
Speaker 16: just said. You know, we should be maintaining our cars

818
00:37:10,533 --> 00:37:13,613
Speaker 16: in a warrantable standard. All I'm saying is that an

819
00:37:13,653 --> 00:37:16,893
Speaker 16: insurance company will always try to find it out, and

820
00:37:16,933 --> 00:37:20,133
Speaker 16: if they can establish that there was something that didn't

821
00:37:20,173 --> 00:37:23,373
Speaker 16: meet warrant standard on your car, I can bet you

822
00:37:23,733 --> 00:37:26,212
Speaker 16: that they will fault and not want to cover you,

823
00:37:26,693 --> 00:37:30,173
Speaker 16: or they might agree to cover you, but your premiums

824
00:37:30,213 --> 00:37:32,053
Speaker 16: are going to go up fifty percent.

825
00:37:32,253 --> 00:37:35,213
Speaker 2: We'll be interesting to see how it is in You know,

826
00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:38,853
Speaker 2: most other countries who don't don't do the warrant r

827
00:37:38,893 --> 00:37:41,693
Speaker 2: it's a fitness like we do, like Australia and the

828
00:37:41,773 --> 00:37:45,493
Speaker 2: United States and the Netherlands. Be interesting to see what

829
00:37:45,493 --> 00:37:46,933
Speaker 2: what their insurance premiums are like.

830
00:37:48,293 --> 00:37:51,053
Speaker 16: Well, I don't think we should necessarily worry about what

831
00:37:51,053 --> 00:37:52,933
Speaker 16: other countries are doing. We've got to deal with our

832
00:37:52,973 --> 00:37:56,173
Speaker 16: own country and we've got our own unique driving conditions.

833
00:37:56,173 --> 00:37:57,253
Speaker 6: It's that is.

834
00:37:57,173 --> 00:37:59,772
Speaker 16: Something that's always happened in to us, you know, using

835
00:37:59,773 --> 00:38:02,853
Speaker 16: on driving conditions, and it's different from we don't have

836
00:38:02,933 --> 00:38:06,293
Speaker 16: big long open freeways, freeways.

837
00:38:08,773 --> 00:38:09,613
Speaker 6: And you know if you.

838
00:38:09,653 --> 00:38:15,173
Speaker 16: Drive unto the side of Hoskin's Ferrari or whatever, you know,

839
00:38:15,293 --> 00:38:16,813
Speaker 16: it's going to cost you a lot of money.

840
00:38:17,573 --> 00:38:17,933
Speaker 2: Yeah.

841
00:38:18,013 --> 00:38:21,173
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like the insurance question is is an

842
00:38:21,213 --> 00:38:23,653
Speaker 5: interesting one, and yeah, nobody wants to crash in the

843
00:38:23,693 --> 00:38:26,093
Speaker 5: Hosking But as you know, Blair, there's a lot of

844
00:38:26,133 --> 00:38:28,373
Speaker 5: company countries out there that don't have a WARRN a

845
00:38:28,413 --> 00:38:31,053
Speaker 5: fitness system, but they have compulsory third party insurance. Right,

846
00:38:31,213 --> 00:38:33,853
Speaker 5: So then I suppose that's when that that conversation starts

847
00:38:33,853 --> 00:38:35,813
Speaker 5: to go, if we change our WARRN fitness system.

848
00:38:35,973 --> 00:38:37,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, thank for you, COLLL. Blair. But yeah, that

849
00:38:37,693 --> 00:38:39,173
Speaker 2: I mean, that is a good point when I'm comparing

850
00:38:39,213 --> 00:38:42,813
Speaker 2: everything to these other countries there there. We have very

851
00:38:42,813 --> 00:38:45,053
Speaker 2: different roads here and very different and that has to

852
00:38:45,093 --> 00:38:48,373
Speaker 2: be taken to account. Absolutely, that's a very good point, yeah, Blair.

853
00:38:48,613 --> 00:38:50,453
Speaker 5: Right, a couple of texts to the news.

854
00:38:50,613 --> 00:38:53,613
Speaker 2: My Highlights is thirty three years old, didn't pass wafts,

855
00:38:53,653 --> 00:38:55,893
Speaker 2: so I can't get a regio. So put regio on

856
00:38:55,933 --> 00:38:59,013
Speaker 2: hold and drive locally. I think per fifty thirty to

857
00:38:59,053 --> 00:39:02,693
Speaker 2: fifty thousand k's per WAFT check love you and your legs, honey,

858
00:39:02,733 --> 00:39:03,413
Speaker 2: Oh there we go.

859
00:39:03,493 --> 00:39:04,013
Speaker 5: That's nice.

860
00:39:04,053 --> 00:39:04,853
Speaker 2: That's nice, isn't it?

861
00:39:05,413 --> 00:39:08,212
Speaker 5: And this one get ay, guys. Waff are a must

862
00:39:08,333 --> 00:39:10,133
Speaker 5: New Zealand. A lot of people run their vehicles to

863
00:39:10,173 --> 00:39:13,373
Speaker 5: the very end because they can't afford the maintenance. New

864
00:39:13,453 --> 00:39:17,373
Speaker 5: Zealand is so expensive. If we remove the wafts system,

865
00:39:17,573 --> 00:39:19,172
Speaker 5: we will have more cars on the road and poor

866
00:39:19,173 --> 00:39:21,573
Speaker 5: and unsafe conditions, a lot of drivers to drive the vehicle.

867
00:39:21,573 --> 00:39:22,933
Speaker 5: People don't take responsibility.

868
00:39:23,453 --> 00:39:24,813
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can agree with that, but

869
00:39:25,053 --> 00:39:27,573
Speaker 2: as I said before, the stats don't back that up.

870
00:39:27,733 --> 00:39:30,373
Speaker 2: We have very very few accidents caused by the type

871
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Speaker 2: of things that are checked by a warren of fitness.

872
00:39:31,973 --> 00:39:33,173
Speaker 2: Less than one percent of accidents.

873
00:39:33,253 --> 00:39:33,413
Speaker 6: Yep.

874
00:39:33,453 --> 00:39:37,133
Speaker 2: It's people being dickheads. Yeah, that cause accidents. Drink speeding,

875
00:39:37,173 --> 00:39:40,213
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. And I just think people shouldn't

876
00:39:40,253 --> 00:39:41,973
Speaker 2: rely on the warrant of fitness. They should look after

877
00:39:41,973 --> 00:39:45,652
Speaker 2: their own cars. Come on, exactly, not babies, are we Well?

878
00:39:45,693 --> 00:39:48,613
Speaker 5: Some of us are but new Sport and weather on.

879
00:39:48,773 --> 00:39:51,172
Speaker 5: It's way great to have your company. As always, you're

880
00:39:51,173 --> 00:39:53,093
Speaker 5: listening to Matt and Tyler will see you on the other.

881
00:39:53,013 --> 00:40:01,253
Speaker 1: Side talking with you all afternoon It's Matt Heath and

882
00:40:01,293 --> 00:40:04,172
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons us Talks Itvy.

883
00:40:05,333 --> 00:40:08,933
Speaker 5: Welcome back into the show. Six past too. Just before

884
00:40:08,973 --> 00:40:11,333
Speaker 5: we move on here have a lot of tech still

885
00:40:11,373 --> 00:40:13,653
Speaker 5: coming through about the warrants of fitness.

886
00:40:13,773 --> 00:40:16,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Someone said that they hope I get

887
00:40:16,293 --> 00:40:20,853
Speaker 2: smashed into by a car. Who that is? I went up,

888
00:40:20,933 --> 00:40:22,293
Speaker 2: I said, we don't need warrant fitness. A lot of

889
00:40:22,293 --> 00:40:23,853
Speaker 2: people saying they wouldn't see me be crashed into a

890
00:40:23,893 --> 00:40:26,373
Speaker 2: car and lose my legs. Yeah, and all other things

891
00:40:26,413 --> 00:40:28,533
Speaker 2: and horrible things happened to me. So I just want

892
00:40:28,573 --> 00:40:30,333
Speaker 2: to talk about the horrible thing that's happened to my

893
00:40:30,413 --> 00:40:34,933
Speaker 2: leg to ease people's anger. Right, maybe if they know

894
00:40:34,973 --> 00:40:36,853
Speaker 2: that I'm already suffering from something on my leg, they

895
00:40:36,853 --> 00:40:39,093
Speaker 2: won't be so keen for me to be smashed into

896
00:40:39,293 --> 00:40:40,252
Speaker 2: an unwarranted vehicle.

897
00:40:40,373 --> 00:40:41,732
Speaker 5: Okay, right, what's going on?

898
00:40:41,893 --> 00:40:43,373
Speaker 2: I've got a Hagland's deformity.

899
00:40:43,453 --> 00:40:44,613
Speaker 5: What's a Hagland's deformity.

900
00:40:44,693 --> 00:40:50,333
Speaker 2: Hagland's deformity is when your arechilles yank's a bit of

901
00:40:50,333 --> 00:40:52,813
Speaker 2: bone out of the back of your heel. So it's

902
00:40:52,813 --> 00:40:55,053
Speaker 2: when you've been running a lot, especially up hill, and

903
00:40:55,093 --> 00:40:58,053
Speaker 2: I was doing a lot of hill running near Coramandel Town,

904
00:40:58,293 --> 00:41:01,093
Speaker 2: so they're very steep hills and you can mess it up.

905
00:41:01,133 --> 00:41:04,293
Speaker 2: This is why it often happens to women who wear

906
00:41:04,373 --> 00:41:07,133
Speaker 2: high heels all the time, like pumps and stuff right, yes,

907
00:41:07,453 --> 00:41:09,493
Speaker 2: often called a pump lump because if you walk around

908
00:41:09,533 --> 00:41:10,933
Speaker 2: high heels you can get as well. But also if

909
00:41:10,933 --> 00:41:12,293
Speaker 2: you run a lot up hills you can get it.

910
00:41:12,333 --> 00:41:15,093
Speaker 2: So just pulls a piece of bone out of the

911
00:41:15,133 --> 00:41:17,573
Speaker 2: back of your heel and so and I'm running in

912
00:41:17,613 --> 00:41:20,533
Speaker 2: the pillar to Poe and Topaul this weekend on Saturday

913
00:41:21,133 --> 00:41:25,493
Speaker 2: and that six hour running relay with my Hegland's deformity.

914
00:41:25,533 --> 00:41:27,773
Speaker 2: In fact, our team is called the Heglands Deformities. It's

915
00:41:27,973 --> 00:41:30,213
Speaker 2: the back of my Headlands deformity. So anyway, I just

916
00:41:30,253 --> 00:41:32,733
Speaker 2: hope that eases people's anger and they know that whilst

917
00:41:32,813 --> 00:41:35,653
Speaker 2: I haven't lost my legs yet, like you you're wishing,

918
00:41:36,293 --> 00:41:38,573
Speaker 2: I am currently something quite considerable pain.

919
00:41:38,653 --> 00:41:40,453
Speaker 5: You don't need to come after his legs. He's already

920
00:41:40,453 --> 00:41:42,613
Speaker 5: come after one of his own legs, So there we go.

921
00:41:42,813 --> 00:41:44,213
Speaker 2: Just if it makes you feel better.

922
00:41:44,053 --> 00:41:45,333
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and I'm sure it does for a few

923
00:41:45,373 --> 00:41:47,293
Speaker 5: people out there. Right, this is going to be makes

924
00:41:47,333 --> 00:41:49,493
Speaker 5: you feel better that I've got the injury of a

925
00:41:49,493 --> 00:41:52,933
Speaker 5: middle aged woman as well. Absolutely right, there's going to

926
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Speaker 5: be a good chat so eron's and household tasks, okay?

927
00:41:56,213 --> 00:41:58,413
Speaker 5: On a slow worked out was a question posed to

928
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Speaker 5: one of those Agony Aren't New York Time articles, So

929
00:42:02,093 --> 00:42:05,573
Speaker 5: I'll read out the question shallow. It says, I work

930
00:42:05,613 --> 00:42:07,573
Speaker 5: in a twenty five person company. We have the option

931
00:42:07,653 --> 00:42:09,853
Speaker 5: to work remotely, which most of us do. Our work

932
00:42:10,413 --> 00:42:14,493
Speaker 5: is very cyclical. During our busy cycle, I routinely work

933
00:42:14,613 --> 00:42:16,093
Speaker 5: six six days a week.

934
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Speaker 2: Just before we move on. I've just got a furry

935
00:42:18,373 --> 00:42:21,573
Speaker 2: of text through saying like this, and sorry to notice,

936
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Speaker 2: I just want to cut off the Warrener fitness thing. Matt,

937
00:42:24,253 --> 00:42:26,732
Speaker 2: You've just proven that Warrener for system works. You said

938
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Speaker 2: there is a really low percentage of crash is caused

939
00:42:28,573 --> 00:42:32,413
Speaker 2: by waffable issues, meaning people get these issues fixed when

940
00:42:32,413 --> 00:42:35,333
Speaker 2: they are picked up. Means more excellents. As I kept

941
00:42:35,333 --> 00:42:38,772
Speaker 2: saying in the last hour, in other countries that don't

942
00:42:38,813 --> 00:42:42,893
Speaker 2: have Warrener fitnesses, they have the same or lower amount

943
00:42:42,973 --> 00:42:46,973
Speaker 2: of accidents from waffable issues. Yeah, okay, So it isn't

944
00:42:47,013 --> 00:42:49,493
Speaker 2: the Warren of fitness that's stopping that low percentage of

945
00:42:49,573 --> 00:42:53,652
Speaker 2: accidents from waffable issues. That's not what's stopping it. What

946
00:42:53,813 --> 00:42:57,293
Speaker 2: accidents are caused by people drunk driving and speeding. It's

947
00:42:57,333 --> 00:43:00,613
Speaker 2: not because you've got you know, one of your headlights

948
00:43:00,653 --> 00:43:01,373
Speaker 2: brighter than the.

949
00:43:01,373 --> 00:43:04,493
Speaker 5: Other and did the research on that. So sorry, Tyler

950
00:43:04,533 --> 00:43:06,333
Speaker 5: to know. That's all right, we'll put that one to bed.

951
00:43:06,333 --> 00:43:07,373
Speaker 5: But that was a great discussion.

952
00:43:07,373 --> 00:43:09,212
Speaker 2: I just needed to say that. Yeah it clickers. About

953
00:43:09,253 --> 00:43:11,172
Speaker 2: twenty five texts came through on the same point. Now

954
00:43:11,173 --> 00:43:12,413
Speaker 2: I'll let you get back to it. Sorry, buddy.

955
00:43:12,453 --> 00:43:15,293
Speaker 5: All right. So this person they sent a question into

956
00:43:15,333 --> 00:43:17,253
Speaker 5: the New York Times. I work in a twenty five

957
00:43:17,253 --> 00:43:19,692
Speaker 5: person company. We have the option to work remotely during

958
00:43:19,693 --> 00:43:23,133
Speaker 5: our busy cycle. I routinely work six days a week,

959
00:43:23,213 --> 00:43:25,692
Speaker 5: ten or more hours a day. We are currently on

960
00:43:25,693 --> 00:43:28,253
Speaker 5: our slow cycle. So my question is is it okay

961
00:43:28,293 --> 00:43:31,213
Speaker 5: to go to the store, start, do some laundry, do

962
00:43:31,253 --> 00:43:33,133
Speaker 5: a bit of cleaning, go for a walk, et cetera.

963
00:43:33,253 --> 00:43:36,573
Speaker 5: I feel extremely guilty doing those things, although I always

964
00:43:36,613 --> 00:43:40,013
Speaker 5: have my phone on me and am available. The fact

965
00:43:40,093 --> 00:43:42,613
Speaker 5: that we are all salaried and well compensated makes the

966
00:43:42,693 --> 00:43:45,013
Speaker 5: rational part of me think that it all evens out

967
00:43:45,053 --> 00:43:47,373
Speaker 5: over the course of the year. Is it okay to

968
00:43:47,453 --> 00:43:50,773
Speaker 5: do errands and household tasks on the slow day? And

969
00:43:50,813 --> 00:43:52,533
Speaker 5: the answer just quickly. I'm not going to give the

970
00:43:52,533 --> 00:43:55,493
Speaker 5: full answer, but the first line is it's more than

971
00:43:55,533 --> 00:43:57,853
Speaker 5: okay to do these things during work hours. In fact,

972
00:43:57,933 --> 00:44:01,253
Speaker 5: it's essential. What wow, New York Times?

973
00:44:01,453 --> 00:44:04,213
Speaker 2: No, well, you know, the New York's Times has definitely

974
00:44:04,933 --> 00:44:07,093
Speaker 2: dropped in standards a lot in recent years, hasn't it.

975
00:44:07,093 --> 00:44:09,373
Speaker 2: It used to be actually as we respected newspaper in

976
00:44:09,373 --> 00:44:10,652
Speaker 2: New York Times. Now it's a bit of a joke.

977
00:44:10,693 --> 00:44:15,573
Speaker 2: But that's that's, by the by ridiculous. If you're working

978
00:44:15,573 --> 00:44:17,813
Speaker 2: from home, you have to have the same rules as

979
00:44:17,853 --> 00:44:20,212
Speaker 2: the people that are working at work, right, So working

980
00:44:20,293 --> 00:44:24,613
Speaker 2: from home isn't a license to just be getting your

981
00:44:24,613 --> 00:44:29,493
Speaker 2: hair done, doing doing the washing, cutting your nails, whatever

982
00:44:29,533 --> 00:44:33,253
Speaker 2: you want to do. Having a spa, yeah, what flossing.

983
00:44:33,573 --> 00:44:37,613
Speaker 2: It's about working the eight hours that you are contracted

984
00:44:37,773 --> 00:44:40,933
Speaker 2: or employed to work, you need to sit at a

985
00:44:41,013 --> 00:44:46,013
Speaker 2: desk at home and work and take the same breaks

986
00:44:46,173 --> 00:44:48,733
Speaker 2: that are afforded to people and the officer on the site.

987
00:44:48,893 --> 00:44:50,493
Speaker 5: What if I've got the slow cooker on and it

988
00:44:50,533 --> 00:44:52,413
Speaker 5: just needs a stir, So I'm just stepping away from

989
00:44:52,413 --> 00:44:55,053
Speaker 5: my laptop for two minutes just to give the slow

990
00:44:55,133 --> 00:44:57,373
Speaker 5: cooker a bit of a stir, maybe a bit of seasoning.

991
00:44:57,693 --> 00:44:58,773
Speaker 2: What are you making a stew?

992
00:44:58,933 --> 00:44:59,172
Speaker 5: Yeah?

993
00:44:59,453 --> 00:45:00,733
Speaker 2: You got to Irish dumplings in there.

994
00:45:00,813 --> 00:45:01,813
Speaker 5: Yeah, bit of red wine.

995
00:45:01,973 --> 00:45:04,652
Speaker 2: I'll I'll let you have one stair.

996
00:45:04,733 --> 00:45:07,413
Speaker 5: I'll bring some to work with me. But genuinely, I

997
00:45:07,453 --> 00:45:10,013
Speaker 5: mean because this it happened in an office anyway. Right,

998
00:45:10,053 --> 00:45:13,453
Speaker 5: there are people on their laptops or on their computers.

999
00:45:14,133 --> 00:45:17,133
Speaker 5: They are looking at holidays, they are looking at face for.

1000
00:45:17,413 --> 00:45:19,493
Speaker 2: This is true. This is true, and that's not a

1001
00:45:19,493 --> 00:45:20,133
Speaker 2: good thing either.

1002
00:45:20,213 --> 00:45:22,813
Speaker 5: That is life, Edmund during when you should be on

1003
00:45:22,853 --> 00:45:23,213
Speaker 5: the clock.

1004
00:45:23,653 --> 00:45:27,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, how many people say they're going

1005
00:45:27,133 --> 00:45:28,373
Speaker 2: to a meeting, but they're really just going to get

1006
00:45:28,373 --> 00:45:29,253
Speaker 2: their hair done?

1007
00:45:29,373 --> 00:45:29,573
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1008
00:45:29,613 --> 00:45:30,973
Speaker 2: How many people say they're going to a meeting but

1009
00:45:30,973 --> 00:45:35,453
Speaker 2: they're just playing golf. Exactly what I'm saying is that. Look,

1010
00:45:35,733 --> 00:45:38,893
Speaker 2: everyone knows that happens, and we're being realistic. Obviously at work,

1011
00:45:38,893 --> 00:45:41,333
Speaker 2: I mean, you spend most of your time on Tinder

1012
00:45:41,373 --> 00:45:44,133
Speaker 2: over there, and I don't.

1013
00:45:43,933 --> 00:45:46,533
Speaker 5: Report you, but I don't get any matches say.

1014
00:45:46,653 --> 00:45:48,093
Speaker 2: But all I'm saying is that should be the same

1015
00:45:48,133 --> 00:45:49,853
Speaker 2: rules for you if you're at home, if you're if

1016
00:45:49,893 --> 00:45:54,413
Speaker 2: you're taking the privilege and been afforded the privilege to

1017
00:45:54,453 --> 00:45:56,613
Speaker 2: work from home and not come into the office or

1018
00:45:56,653 --> 00:45:59,093
Speaker 2: come to site. You know, of course a lot of

1019
00:45:59,093 --> 00:46:01,613
Speaker 2: trades can't work from home. It is working on their home,

1020
00:46:02,293 --> 00:46:05,653
Speaker 2: but then you should. Then you should treat it exactly

1021
00:46:05,693 --> 00:46:08,333
Speaker 2: like you're in the office. You should the same rule.

1022
00:46:08,533 --> 00:46:11,053
Speaker 2: So you're allowed to coffee here and there, maybe allowed

1023
00:46:11,053 --> 00:46:13,373
Speaker 2: to go and vape outside if that's what you're into,

1024
00:46:13,813 --> 00:46:15,973
Speaker 2: But you should be working the same hours. You shouldn't

1025
00:46:15,973 --> 00:46:20,013
Speaker 2: be doing the washing. You shouldn't be you know, you

1026
00:46:20,013 --> 00:46:21,293
Speaker 2: shouldn't be mowing the lawns.

1027
00:46:22,533 --> 00:46:22,933
Speaker 17: I don't know.

1028
00:46:23,173 --> 00:46:25,373
Speaker 5: I don't know. Look, I understand your point, but I

1029
00:46:25,493 --> 00:46:27,773
Speaker 5: just think, you know, sometimes real life, as long as

1030
00:46:27,813 --> 00:46:31,013
Speaker 5: you're not taking the MAC and you're meeting your KPIs

1031
00:46:31,293 --> 00:46:34,613
Speaker 5: and maybe you make up the hours afterwards. But in

1032
00:46:34,653 --> 00:46:37,293
Speaker 5: this company right here. We know that there's some people

1033
00:46:37,293 --> 00:46:40,172
Speaker 5: here that will take a bit of an advantage during

1034
00:46:40,213 --> 00:46:41,893
Speaker 5: the day to go down and get a haircut or

1035
00:46:42,093 --> 00:46:43,493
Speaker 5: go to the bank because it's easier to go to

1036
00:46:43,573 --> 00:46:46,893
Speaker 5: the bank nine to five Monday to Friday. And then

1037
00:46:46,893 --> 00:46:49,573
Speaker 5: they come back and they work some extra hours. We're

1038
00:46:49,573 --> 00:46:51,293
Speaker 5: not going to name names, or are we going to

1039
00:46:51,373 --> 00:46:53,373
Speaker 5: name names, but we know it happens. People go down

1040
00:46:53,413 --> 00:46:55,333
Speaker 5: and they get a haircut because it's easier to do

1041
00:46:55,733 --> 00:46:57,853
Speaker 5: at eleven o'clock in the morning on a weekday.

1042
00:46:57,933 --> 00:47:00,133
Speaker 2: On a weekend. Do they work other hours?

1043
00:47:00,533 --> 00:47:00,853
Speaker 5: They did?

1044
00:47:00,853 --> 00:47:03,172
Speaker 2: They did, okay, and so so you know, I waite

1045
00:47:03,213 --> 00:47:04,853
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty. This isn't just a conversation

1046
00:47:04,853 --> 00:47:06,533
Speaker 2: I don't want we've turned in a conversation between you

1047
00:47:06,533 --> 00:47:08,813
Speaker 2: and me. Wait, hundred and eighty ten eighty. Do you

1048
00:47:08,853 --> 00:47:11,252
Speaker 2: think if you're working from home that you should keep

1049
00:47:11,253 --> 00:47:14,533
Speaker 2: the exact same rules as if you're working in the office, yep?

1050
00:47:15,373 --> 00:47:18,053
Speaker 2: Or do you think that you can just be going

1051
00:47:18,093 --> 00:47:21,093
Speaker 2: around trimming a tree in the backyard, painting the fence,

1052
00:47:22,093 --> 00:47:25,172
Speaker 2: doing your nails.

1053
00:47:24,613 --> 00:47:26,893
Speaker 5: No stirring the slow cocker. Oh eight, one hundred and

1054
00:47:26,933 --> 00:47:28,893
Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty love to hear your thoughts on this.

1055
00:47:29,013 --> 00:47:33,013
Speaker 5: It is fourteen parts two.

1056
00:47:32,613 --> 00:47:36,813
Speaker 1: Your home of Afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons

1057
00:47:37,013 --> 00:47:39,533
Speaker 1: call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth.

1058
00:47:39,333 --> 00:47:40,093
Speaker 2: Talk said, be.

1059
00:47:41,573 --> 00:47:44,413
Speaker 5: Afternoon. It is seventeen past two, and we're talking about

1060
00:47:44,453 --> 00:47:48,973
Speaker 5: doing errands and sometimes household tasks when you're on the clock,

1061
00:47:49,053 --> 00:47:53,253
Speaker 5: but also when you're at work and your work primarily

1062
00:47:53,253 --> 00:47:57,013
Speaker 5: involves a computer, is it okay to look at booking

1063
00:47:57,013 --> 00:48:00,613
Speaker 5: a holiday, or pay bills or go on Facebook and

1064
00:48:00,653 --> 00:48:04,172
Speaker 5: social media? And I guarantee ninety percent of people who

1065
00:48:04,253 --> 00:48:06,013
Speaker 5: work on a computer would do some of those things.

1066
00:48:06,093 --> 00:48:08,013
Speaker 2: So you're saying, when we're throwing shade a people that

1067
00:48:08,053 --> 00:48:09,613
Speaker 2: work from home, you're saying that people that work in

1068
00:48:09,693 --> 00:48:13,813
Speaker 2: officers are slacking off as well. Obviously, obviously, if you're

1069
00:48:13,853 --> 00:48:16,853
Speaker 2: an employee, you're not paying for someone to book their

1070
00:48:16,973 --> 00:48:20,692
Speaker 2: travel or online shop or buy a bunch of crap

1071
00:48:20,693 --> 00:48:23,053
Speaker 2: off TMU to be brought into the economy and thrown

1072
00:48:23,093 --> 00:48:24,813
Speaker 2: in landfill. But it's not what you're that's not what

1073
00:48:24,853 --> 00:48:26,853
Speaker 2: you're paying them to do. You're paying them to work

1074
00:48:26,933 --> 00:48:31,093
Speaker 2: for the for the eight hours that they're there. So

1075
00:48:30,813 --> 00:48:33,013
Speaker 2: so you think it's okay for people. I'd love to

1076
00:48:33,053 --> 00:48:35,573
Speaker 2: hear from employers one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Do

1077
00:48:35,613 --> 00:48:38,373
Speaker 2: you think it's okay for your for your work, your

1078
00:48:38,413 --> 00:48:41,533
Speaker 2: workers to be on Facebook? That's what you're saying.

1079
00:48:41,573 --> 00:48:43,933
Speaker 5: I'm just saying it's realistic. I mean, what would be

1080
00:48:44,373 --> 00:48:48,133
Speaker 5: so if you're catching an employee on Facebook at all

1081
00:48:48,213 --> 00:48:50,573
Speaker 5: during the day, what would be the ramification. I just

1082
00:48:50,573 --> 00:48:53,373
Speaker 5: think it's realistic too. You know, there's a lot of

1083
00:48:53,493 --> 00:48:55,613
Speaker 5: a lot of young workers out there that can't resist

1084
00:48:55,613 --> 00:48:57,772
Speaker 5: a wee cheeky look on Facebook. And is that really

1085
00:48:57,813 --> 00:48:59,573
Speaker 5: impacting their eight hour day that much?

1086
00:49:00,293 --> 00:49:04,133
Speaker 2: Yes? Hi, a great topic. Do you mean, Oh, hang on,

1087
00:49:04,253 --> 00:49:08,613
Speaker 2: that's the wrong that's that's that's back on the previous topic. Right,

1088
00:49:08,653 --> 00:49:11,172
Speaker 2: Workers at home are trying to be quasi influencers who

1089
00:49:11,173 --> 00:49:15,653
Speaker 2: travel and earn. Home homeworking should require regular psychological assessments

1090
00:49:15,693 --> 00:49:20,413
Speaker 2: to check responsibility in desk, discipline, and check circumstances or

1091
00:49:20,493 --> 00:49:21,652
Speaker 2: like a warrant of fitness.

1092
00:49:21,773 --> 00:49:25,813
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, And this Texas says, Hey, guys, I work

1093
00:49:25,853 --> 00:49:28,213
Speaker 5: from home and start my home slash work desk at

1094
00:49:28,293 --> 00:49:31,453
Speaker 5: seven thirty am. No traffic between my bed and office

1095
00:49:31,453 --> 00:49:33,613
Speaker 5: and there's no traffic to the kitchen for lunch or

1096
00:49:33,653 --> 00:49:35,253
Speaker 5: in the evening to get back in front of my

1097
00:49:35,293 --> 00:49:38,653
Speaker 5: loving family. So I'm all good with washing my undies

1098
00:49:38,693 --> 00:49:41,533
Speaker 5: as part of my business. Eight hour day from Simon.

1099
00:49:41,813 --> 00:49:43,853
Speaker 2: Yeah right. Let's listen to this from Mike in the

1100
00:49:43,893 --> 00:49:48,053
Speaker 2: book Working at Home during the IT Revolution, published in

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00:49:48,093 --> 00:49:52,093
Speaker 2: eighteen thirty nine. Eighteen thirty nine. Wow, was there an

1102
00:49:52,093 --> 00:49:53,973
Speaker 2: IT revolution in eighteen thirty nine.

1103
00:49:54,053 --> 00:49:54,973
Speaker 5: This seems a little bit early.

1104
00:49:55,093 --> 00:49:57,893
Speaker 2: We'll look into this, but I'll continue. Written by cushy

1105
00:49:57,933 --> 00:50:00,813
Speaker 2: and sweetmen at all, they say, if there is downtime,

1106
00:50:00,973 --> 00:50:05,093
Speaker 2: then productive housework promotes morale and therefore more productivity.

1107
00:50:05,893 --> 00:50:07,653
Speaker 5: See that makes sense to me. I don't know about

1108
00:50:07,693 --> 00:50:12,253
Speaker 5: the whether that book exists, but if you have a

1109
00:50:12,293 --> 00:50:15,013
Speaker 5: worker that is allowed to do some life admin, hopefully

1110
00:50:15,093 --> 00:50:16,653
Speaker 5: doesn't that make them more productive and appy.

1111
00:50:17,093 --> 00:50:20,533
Speaker 2: It's an interesting question because it sort of goes against

1112
00:50:20,573 --> 00:50:23,533
Speaker 2: what I was saying before. But if you are getting stressed,

1113
00:50:23,733 --> 00:50:26,252
Speaker 2: they've done studies to find if you just get a win,

1114
00:50:26,453 --> 00:50:29,573
Speaker 2: any kind of win, then it destresses you. And you

1115
00:50:29,613 --> 00:50:32,453
Speaker 2: know you've got working memory, and you've got long term memory,

1116
00:50:32,453 --> 00:50:35,213
Speaker 2: and your working memory only has four slots that you

1117
00:50:35,253 --> 00:50:37,093
Speaker 2: can fill with things that you can handle doing right

1118
00:50:37,133 --> 00:50:39,013
Speaker 2: before you get stressed. I there's too many things happening.

1119
00:50:39,413 --> 00:50:42,213
Speaker 2: You know this problem that you can email about that whatever.

1120
00:50:42,613 --> 00:50:46,253
Speaker 2: But your brain resets if you just successfully do something

1121
00:50:46,293 --> 00:50:48,853
Speaker 2: like make a sandwich, because then you're the primitive part

1122
00:50:48,893 --> 00:50:52,493
Speaker 2: of your brain goes okay, we're winning now, and so

1123
00:50:52,613 --> 00:50:54,813
Speaker 2: it de stresses. So there might be something in that

1124
00:50:55,213 --> 00:50:57,613
Speaker 2: in that when you're getting stressed, if you go and

1125
00:50:57,653 --> 00:51:00,013
Speaker 2: do the laundry, say if you're working at home, that

1126
00:51:00,093 --> 00:51:02,533
Speaker 2: if you've successfully done that, then you might be more

1127
00:51:02,573 --> 00:51:05,133
Speaker 2: productive afterwards. It's an interesting idea, but I still don't

1128
00:51:05,133 --> 00:51:07,133
Speaker 2: believe that there was an IT revolution in nations.

1129
00:51:07,133 --> 00:51:10,813
Speaker 5: Setting on Oh, eight hundred eighty is the number to call, Paul?

1130
00:51:10,853 --> 00:51:11,773
Speaker 5: Where do you sit on this.

1131
00:51:13,373 --> 00:51:15,652
Speaker 18: Very simple guys? Sorry I forgot which one of you

1132
00:51:15,973 --> 00:51:17,253
Speaker 18: says it's okay to be on.

1133
00:51:17,213 --> 00:51:20,413
Speaker 5: Facebook me Tyler, Well, you're.

1134
00:51:21,013 --> 00:51:25,853
Speaker 18: The bad guy, right because I'm an employer, and I'm

1135
00:51:25,893 --> 00:51:28,173
Speaker 18: sorry mate, I'm old school. I'm an old fossil of

1136
00:51:28,213 --> 00:51:31,732
Speaker 18: employee people for years and years, and you come to work,

1137
00:51:31,773 --> 00:51:34,533
Speaker 18: you do a day's working. During your smokeos and during

1138
00:51:34,573 --> 00:51:36,413
Speaker 18: your age breach, you did on your facebooks and did

1139
00:51:36,453 --> 00:51:38,893
Speaker 18: what the hell you like, But don't do the personal

1140
00:51:38,933 --> 00:51:41,253
Speaker 18: stuff on a work computer during tom That's not what

1141
00:51:41,293 --> 00:51:41,853
Speaker 18: I pay you for.

1142
00:51:42,093 --> 00:51:45,013
Speaker 5: That's my perspective, and that is a fair perspective. So

1143
00:51:45,253 --> 00:51:47,172
Speaker 5: if you caught one of your employeers having a look

1144
00:51:47,173 --> 00:51:49,652
Speaker 5: at social media during the work day, would that be

1145
00:51:49,693 --> 00:51:51,013
Speaker 5: a pretty stern talking to Paul?

1146
00:51:52,533 --> 00:51:54,653
Speaker 18: Oh would said, You've been sorry, mate, You're not employeed

1147
00:51:54,653 --> 00:51:57,173
Speaker 18: to do that. You've got time during your smoker's happy

1148
00:51:57,173 --> 00:51:58,973
Speaker 18: for you to do that during your own time. But

1149
00:51:59,013 --> 00:52:00,813
Speaker 18: I'm employee to do the job i'mploy you to do.

1150
00:52:00,933 --> 00:52:02,293
Speaker 18: Not look at Facebook for yourself?

1151
00:52:03,093 --> 00:52:07,652
Speaker 2: Would you not look? What if that employee was achieving

1152
00:52:07,893 --> 00:52:10,692
Speaker 2: at a level that you were happy, happy with?

1153
00:52:12,173 --> 00:52:16,212
Speaker 18: Man, that employee is a super high achiever that same thing.

1154
00:52:16,533 --> 00:52:19,253
Speaker 18: You'll be rewarded here, You'll be rewarded in other ways.

1155
00:52:19,293 --> 00:52:22,653
Speaker 18: But man, workers work on personals personal, keep them personal.

1156
00:52:23,093 --> 00:52:25,933
Speaker 2: And what sort of breaks do you think are okay?

1157
00:52:26,653 --> 00:52:28,573
Speaker 2: I know that there's a statue tree.

1158
00:52:28,373 --> 00:52:32,453
Speaker 18: Breaks, normal breaks, mate, where I'm in manufacturing the normal

1159
00:52:32,453 --> 00:52:36,133
Speaker 18: breakmoco as in lunch times as an afternoon of morning.

1160
00:52:36,013 --> 00:52:36,613
Speaker 17: Smoke us years.

1161
00:52:36,613 --> 00:52:38,933
Speaker 18: Actually it takes fen in there before work by all

1162
00:52:38,973 --> 00:52:41,533
Speaker 18: means and knock yourself out on your own your own

1163
00:52:41,893 --> 00:52:43,652
Speaker 18: Facebook and personal computers.

1164
00:52:44,053 --> 00:52:46,053
Speaker 5: Well, what if Paul, one of your workers came to

1165
00:52:46,093 --> 00:52:48,253
Speaker 5: you and said, I'm I'm at a bind boss and

1166
00:52:48,293 --> 00:52:50,933
Speaker 5: I've got to get to say the lawyers, and the

1167
00:52:50,973 --> 00:52:54,093
Speaker 5: only time I can see him is during the weekday

1168
00:52:54,293 --> 00:52:57,053
Speaker 5: at ten am. Can I get an hour off and

1169
00:52:57,093 --> 00:52:59,053
Speaker 5: I'll make it up in the weekend. Would that be

1170
00:52:59,093 --> 00:53:00,733
Speaker 5: an acceptable use of that time?

1171
00:53:01,773 --> 00:53:04,973
Speaker 18: We are incredible employers. May we look after people? So

1172
00:53:05,373 --> 00:53:07,293
Speaker 18: anything like that, it's a huge give and take. We

1173
00:53:07,333 --> 00:53:09,973
Speaker 18: look after people on Center, I draw the line out

1174
00:53:10,333 --> 00:53:12,813
Speaker 18: personal stuff going to the lawyer not a problem. We're

1175
00:53:12,813 --> 00:53:15,693
Speaker 18: looking after you for that. But Facebook and team and

1176
00:53:15,853 --> 00:53:17,533
Speaker 18: all that. Sorry, mate, that's your only thing doing in

1177
00:53:17,573 --> 00:53:18,013
Speaker 18: your own time.

1178
00:53:18,133 --> 00:53:19,493
Speaker 5: Yeah, fair enough to And.

1179
00:53:19,453 --> 00:53:21,732
Speaker 2: What do you I mean obviously obviously in your time,

1180
00:53:21,773 --> 00:53:25,733
Speaker 2: pol you've caught people on on social media or or

1181
00:53:25,853 --> 00:53:28,893
Speaker 2: doing personal stuff in their work time. And how do

1182
00:53:28,933 --> 00:53:30,373
Speaker 2: you deal with that as an employer?

1183
00:53:31,973 --> 00:53:34,613
Speaker 18: And you're very simply, we've got rules, we got regulations,

1184
00:53:34,613 --> 00:53:36,813
Speaker 18: you've got employment contracts. You say, come on, make fear

1185
00:53:36,893 --> 00:53:39,652
Speaker 18: suck of the said, it's not it's not a fair deal.

1186
00:53:40,333 --> 00:53:42,212
Speaker 18: I'm not I'm not a Demi googe. I don't rent

1187
00:53:42,253 --> 00:53:44,732
Speaker 18: and rave. We just have a heart to hard chet

1188
00:53:44,773 --> 00:53:46,933
Speaker 18: to say, come on, you know, I'm fear to you.

1189
00:53:46,933 --> 00:53:47,692
Speaker 6: You be fear to meat.

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00:53:47,773 --> 00:53:50,933
Speaker 18: Let's get to spect on uneven kid and level levels

1191
00:53:50,973 --> 00:53:51,573
Speaker 18: playing fields.

1192
00:53:52,133 --> 00:53:54,533
Speaker 2: I suppose you're not in the position, if you're in manufacturing,

1193
00:53:54,573 --> 00:53:56,093
Speaker 2: to have too many people that work from home.

1194
00:53:57,653 --> 00:54:00,773
Speaker 18: Now, see this whole work from home, it doesn't doesn't

1195
00:54:00,773 --> 00:54:02,733
Speaker 18: to muster for me. You can't work from home when

1196
00:54:02,773 --> 00:54:05,893
Speaker 18: you're manufacturing product when you've got trucks delivering, trucks to

1197
00:54:06,093 --> 00:54:10,133
Speaker 18: deliver rules, materials, r also trucks taking away just doesn't work.

1198
00:54:10,333 --> 00:54:12,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you do, let's just say hypothetically, because

1199
00:54:12,653 --> 00:54:14,172
Speaker 2: you've been in the business a long time, you've dealt

1200
00:54:14,173 --> 00:54:16,653
Speaker 2: with a lot of employees. But hypothetically, would you expect

1201
00:54:16,693 --> 00:54:19,333
Speaker 2: people if they were if it was a situation where

1202
00:54:19,373 --> 00:54:21,333
Speaker 2: you had people that work from home, would you expect

1203
00:54:21,373 --> 00:54:23,732
Speaker 2: them to keep the same hours as people that were

1204
00:54:23,773 --> 00:54:25,373
Speaker 2: coming in and working on site.

1205
00:54:26,933 --> 00:54:32,652
Speaker 5: It's yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I mean straight up sere Yeah, Paul,

1206
00:54:32,693 --> 00:54:35,293
Speaker 5: you're good. Thanks for giving us a bars really appreciating

1207
00:54:35,453 --> 00:54:38,253
Speaker 5: straight up individual. Paul, certainly, oh eight one hundred and

1208
00:54:38,293 --> 00:54:41,053
Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. And if

1209
00:54:41,093 --> 00:54:42,613
Speaker 5: you want to send a text nine two ninety two,

1210
00:54:42,613 --> 00:54:43,733
Speaker 5: some good techs coming.

1211
00:54:43,533 --> 00:54:47,093
Speaker 2: Through, great show guys, rework from home? Is that then

1212
00:54:47,133 --> 00:54:49,173
Speaker 2: okay to watch a bit of Talley after dinner and

1213
00:54:49,213 --> 00:54:51,172
Speaker 2: then get up and do some work emails at nine

1214
00:54:51,333 --> 00:54:53,533
Speaker 2: thirty pm for two hours?

1215
00:54:53,973 --> 00:54:54,133
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1216
00:54:54,173 --> 00:54:55,373
Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing, isn't it?

1217
00:54:56,173 --> 00:54:59,013
Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean to me and I this is hard

1218
00:54:59,053 --> 00:55:01,933
Speaker 5: to articulate my argument here because I'm not getting much support.

1219
00:55:02,333 --> 00:55:04,733
Speaker 5: But that's the difference between taking the mick and if

1220
00:55:04,773 --> 00:55:07,093
Speaker 5: you're a good worker and if you're doing something like

1221
00:55:07,133 --> 00:55:09,533
Speaker 5: you say, you're doing the lawn or there's something there's

1222
00:55:09,573 --> 00:55:12,133
Speaker 5: a little bit of home admin that you're stressing about

1223
00:55:12,533 --> 00:55:14,093
Speaker 5: and it's going to take you a couple of minutes

1224
00:55:14,173 --> 00:55:15,773
Speaker 5: or five minutes to sort out. Then you're back to

1225
00:55:15,813 --> 00:55:18,693
Speaker 5: work and you're just as productive, if not more productive.

1226
00:55:19,213 --> 00:55:22,213
Speaker 5: Then that to me is an okay scenario.

1227
00:55:22,293 --> 00:55:24,573
Speaker 2: Okay, would you how about this? Tyler? Would you accept

1228
00:55:24,573 --> 00:55:27,652
Speaker 2: that you should then message your boss and say I'm

1229
00:55:27,693 --> 00:55:30,493
Speaker 2: just taking fifteen minutes to the laundry now and then

1230
00:55:30,533 --> 00:55:32,333
Speaker 2: get back to your computer and do some work. And

1231
00:55:32,373 --> 00:55:34,253
Speaker 2: they say Look, I'm just going to take another fifteen

1232
00:55:34,293 --> 00:55:36,813
Speaker 2: minutes now to cut my nails and then get back

1233
00:55:36,853 --> 00:55:38,933
Speaker 2: and do another three minutes and then text I'm just

1234
00:55:38,973 --> 00:55:41,613
Speaker 2: off for a shower. You see what I'm saying. Yeah,

1235
00:55:41,653 --> 00:55:44,053
Speaker 2: because why if you're working from home, should you be

1236
00:55:44,773 --> 00:55:46,853
Speaker 2: treated any different from someone that's coming in the office.

1237
00:55:46,933 --> 00:55:49,172
Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred eighty sen eighty is the number to call.

1238
00:55:49,253 --> 00:55:51,293
Speaker 5: Love to get your thoughts on this. Twenty five pass too.

1239
00:55:52,693 --> 00:55:56,853
Speaker 1: So here is good in hard mad Heath and Tyler

1240
00:55:56,893 --> 00:56:00,133
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1241
00:56:00,173 --> 00:56:01,293
Speaker 1: on News Talks.

1242
00:56:01,053 --> 00:56:05,133
Speaker 5: V News Talks. Heb it is twenty seven pass too,

1243
00:56:05,333 --> 00:56:07,773
Speaker 5: and we're talking about is it okay to look at

1244
00:56:07,813 --> 00:56:11,893
Speaker 5: social media? Do life? Edmond at work? A lot of

1245
00:56:11,893 --> 00:56:14,533
Speaker 5: texts coming through on this one. Oh one hundred and

1246
00:56:14,533 --> 00:56:16,053
Speaker 5: eighteen eighty is the number to call as well.

1247
00:56:16,173 --> 00:56:19,773
Speaker 2: Guys, you're making it too simple, which's way more complicated

1248
00:56:19,813 --> 00:56:22,013
Speaker 2: than it is. Yeah, again that makes sense. There's tautology

1249
00:56:22,013 --> 00:56:22,853
Speaker 2: of a sentence, there isn't it.

1250
00:56:22,893 --> 00:56:23,093
Speaker 6: Guys.

1251
00:56:23,133 --> 00:56:25,973
Speaker 2: You're making it way too simple, making it way more

1252
00:56:26,013 --> 00:56:28,373
Speaker 2: complicated than it is. I don't want to pull up

1253
00:56:28,373 --> 00:56:30,533
Speaker 2: a texture on a torutology, I mean horses for course.

1254
00:56:30,573 --> 00:56:33,493
Speaker 2: So sometimes you an'swer emails at night, you take phone calls,

1255
00:56:33,773 --> 00:56:35,692
Speaker 2: you do things on the weekend that you don't need

1256
00:56:35,733 --> 00:56:38,533
Speaker 2: to do, et cetera. So during the work week, if

1257
00:56:38,573 --> 00:56:40,893
Speaker 2: you're working from home, it's only for you pop down

1258
00:56:40,933 --> 00:56:43,053
Speaker 2: the shops and you do those bits and pieces I

1259
00:56:43,093 --> 00:56:46,413
Speaker 2: mean salary work. It should just be fair as long

1260
00:56:46,493 --> 00:56:48,453
Speaker 2: as long as long as long as you do your

1261
00:56:48,493 --> 00:56:51,293
Speaker 2: fair amount of work that you have got to do,

1262
00:56:51,573 --> 00:56:54,053
Speaker 2: then it shouldn't matter one way or the other. See

1263
00:56:54,093 --> 00:56:55,973
Speaker 2: that person has wasted a lot of term if they're

1264
00:56:55,973 --> 00:56:58,133
Speaker 2: working from home, because everything as long as long as long.

1265
00:56:58,413 --> 00:57:01,133
Speaker 5: It feels like a rush text they're on the clock

1266
00:57:01,453 --> 00:57:02,973
Speaker 5: sending that one.

1267
00:57:03,093 --> 00:57:05,453
Speaker 2: I get that, and on a very simple way of

1268
00:57:05,493 --> 00:57:08,013
Speaker 2: looking at it. I remember when I worked at Real Groovy Records,

1269
00:57:08,453 --> 00:57:10,652
Speaker 2: we had a clocking, you know, like a Fred flint

1270
00:57:10,693 --> 00:57:13,773
Speaker 2: Z own clocker. Yes, yeah, and you would at staff

1271
00:57:13,813 --> 00:57:15,773
Speaker 2: meetings which they'd be like you were three minutes late

1272
00:57:16,173 --> 00:57:18,013
Speaker 2: or whatever, and then try and go OCCU play. But

1273
00:57:18,053 --> 00:57:19,853
Speaker 2: they were never at the end of the day, yeah,

1274
00:57:19,933 --> 00:57:22,213
Speaker 2: five point thirty. They were like, if you're with a customer,

1275
00:57:22,253 --> 00:57:23,973
Speaker 2: you couldn't just go I'm out and clock out at

1276
00:57:23,973 --> 00:57:24,493
Speaker 2: five thirty.

1277
00:57:24,533 --> 00:57:26,373
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they never say we owe you five minutes.

1278
00:57:26,493 --> 00:57:28,493
Speaker 2: Yes, So I mean most workers these days do you

1279
00:57:28,573 --> 00:57:32,253
Speaker 2: end up answering emails and doing weird stuff outside of

1280
00:57:32,293 --> 00:57:33,973
Speaker 2: the work And maybe that's the problem, but a lot

1281
00:57:33,973 --> 00:57:35,893
Speaker 2: of people end up on their phone when they shouldn't

1282
00:57:35,973 --> 00:57:39,453
Speaker 2: be working. Welcome to the show, Adrian.

1283
00:57:39,493 --> 00:57:45,213
Speaker 7: You're an employer, Yeah, yeah, I'm a manager company in

1284
00:57:45,253 --> 00:57:46,533
Speaker 7: the health sector.

1285
00:57:47,973 --> 00:57:53,253
Speaker 5: And what's your thoughts about life edmin during work hours?

1286
00:57:54,053 --> 00:57:58,453
Speaker 19: So, I mean it's an inevitable fact, really that it's

1287
00:57:58,453 --> 00:58:02,893
Speaker 19: going to happen. So in our Code of Conduct, which

1288
00:58:03,693 --> 00:58:09,533
Speaker 19: full employees sign and understand, we have a clause in

1289
00:58:09,573 --> 00:58:15,293
Speaker 19: there that talks about fair and reasonable use of work computers,

1290
00:58:15,333 --> 00:58:17,093
Speaker 19: emails for personal stuff.

1291
00:58:18,933 --> 00:58:24,733
Speaker 7: But because so and so, we're reasonably tolerant. However, it's

1292
00:58:24,773 --> 00:58:29,013
Speaker 7: not so much people using the time that concerns us.

1293
00:58:29,653 --> 00:58:34,813
Speaker 7: It's the access and the cyber security issues that that

1294
00:58:34,853 --> 00:58:39,573
Speaker 7: can cause. So we're not we wouldn't mind you going

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Speaker 7: on a New Zealand and booking.

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Speaker 19: A flight because their site is normally reasonably safe. But

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Speaker 19: we don't really encourage people a want people on the

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Speaker 19: various social media platforms and doing that sort of thing.

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Speaker 19: We've got good cybersecurity, but you know we've always got

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Speaker 19: to be on the on the cautious.

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Speaker 6: Side of that.

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Speaker 2: So through social media, someone could get into your system.

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Speaker 2: Is that possible?

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Speaker 7: Well, there's there are lots of.

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Speaker 19: Players out there that try to access systems of all

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Speaker 19: organizations and you know, personal emails, social media at various

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Speaker 19: you know websites where you go on to purchase things.

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Speaker 19: You know, they're often places that attacks can come from.

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Speaker 5: I mean it sounds almost like an honesty system, Adrian,

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Speaker 5: But like any honesty system, if someone's taking the mech

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Speaker 5: and that's spending all day looking at in New Zealand

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Speaker 5: holidays or pain insurance or whatever it may be, then

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Speaker 5: you've got to pull them up right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: So we have a software package on our system that

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Speaker 19: the staff know that's there and that tracks all their

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Speaker 19: Internet usage and if they are doing turn up, which

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Speaker 19: I get a report on, and if they're doing things

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01:00:07,253 --> 01:00:13,413
Speaker 19: that I don't really feel is acceptable, we just have

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Speaker 19: a chat and you know point out that you know,

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Speaker 19: would I'd rather not be spending as much time or

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Speaker 19: not activating, not going on to particular sides.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and just with those you know employees these days, Adrian,

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Speaker 5: do you think that is a big part that if

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Speaker 5: you if you want some of those talented employees, that

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Speaker 5: is part and parcel that you're going to have to

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Speaker 5: face that they want to do those things. And I know,

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Speaker 5: you know, arguably it's a buyers market right now. It's

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Speaker 5: not fantastic in the employment realm, but that is a

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Speaker 5: condition for some of these employees that they get to

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Speaker 5: have a better home edman time.

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Speaker 19: So I think I think the key thing is that

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Speaker 19: you need to be a good employer. We believe we

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Speaker 19: are very good employers in all aspects. It's not just

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Speaker 19: that you pay a good wage, but you provide good

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Speaker 19: conditions for people, but that we expect people to perform

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Speaker 19: and we need the job done. We work in a

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Speaker 19: very very busy industry, which is you know, help and

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Speaker 19: so I don't expect anybody that is working an eight

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Speaker 19: hour day to be flat tacked for eight hours a day.

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Speaker 19: You know, I expect downtime and I expect, you know,

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Speaker 19: if I walk into a room and these two or

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Speaker 19: three people having a chat, I'm not going to get

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Speaker 19: upset or offended. I'll probably join in to be honest,

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Speaker 19: because we all need those little micro breaks. And I

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01:01:43,773 --> 01:01:51,413
Speaker 19: think the fairer you are with your team, the better

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Speaker 19: they work for you. And if you're, you know, an

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Speaker 19: overall good employer that has these sort of things, I

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Speaker 19: think people want to do a good job for you.

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Speaker 2: Well, you sound like a fear and decent man, Adrian.

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Speaker 2: One final question for you, how do you feel about

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Speaker 2: employees or employees is bringing us talks? He'd be during

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Speaker 2: work hours.

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Speaker 19: As long as as long as in my team members

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Speaker 19: and that Tony, how wonderful we are. That's fine.

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Speaker 5: Encourage Adrian.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very caol Adrian, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, great call. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 5: Really can you get your thoughts on this one? Headlines

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Speaker 5: with Raylen coming.

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Speaker 15: Up you talks, it'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis.

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01:02:36,053 --> 01:02:39,933
Speaker 15: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. The World Meteorological

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Speaker 15: Organization says twenty twenty four was the warmest year in

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Speaker 15: the Southwest Pacific to date. Temperatures were almost half a

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Speaker 15: degree above average. The police commissioner says he only became

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01:02:51,853 --> 01:02:55,853
Speaker 15: aware of allegations against a senior Prime ministerial staffer this week,

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Speaker 15: who has now resigned stuff reports Michael Forbes allegedly took

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Speaker 15: photos of women in the supermarket gym and through a

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Speaker 15: window and recorded sessions with sex workers. The US is

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Speaker 15: now barring people arriving from twelve countries, including Iran, Sudan

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Speaker 15: and Yemen, and restricting them from another seven countries. Police

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Speaker 15: are asking for sightings of vulnerable seventy nine year old

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01:03:20,813 --> 01:03:24,853
Speaker 15: Elizabeth in christ Church. She was seen in Rickitton's Bartlett

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01:03:24,933 --> 01:03:28,253
Speaker 15: Street last night and possibly in Mona Vale Garden this morning.

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Speaker 15: She has long white hair. Slips of closed State Highway

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Speaker 15: too on the east cape between Takartika and orpun Nai

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Speaker 15: and Snow's blocking State Highway eighty Lake Pulkaki to Auraki

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Speaker 15: Mount Cook. A teen's view on living with the impacts

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Speaker 15: of climate change. See the full column at ends in

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Speaker 15: heral premium. Now back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 20: See what we're actually trying to do here is we're

1382
01:03:54,213 --> 01:03:56,533
Speaker 20: just we're trying to get a feel for how people

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Speaker 20: spend their day at work. So if you would, would

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Speaker 20: you walk us through a typical day for you?

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Speaker 17: Yeah?

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Speaker 20: Great, Well only come in at least fifteen minutes late.

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Speaker 2: I use the side door now why lumberd can't see me?

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Speaker 20: And after that, I just sort of space out for

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Speaker 20: about an hour.

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Speaker 21: Time space out.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks

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Speaker 20: like I'm working.

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Speaker 2: I do that for probably another hour after a launch too.

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Speaker 2: I'd seen a given week, I probably only do about

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01:04:34,133 --> 01:04:37,253
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes of real actual work.

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Speaker 5: Oh so good.

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Speaker 2: That's from the office space fantastic movie.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, brilliant. And that is what we're talking about here,

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01:04:45,653 --> 01:04:50,733
Speaker 5: is doing a life admin and other sort of household tasks.

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Speaker 5: Why you should be on the clock? Is it ever? Okay?

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Speaker 5: I one hundred and eighty teen eight y is the

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Speaker 5: number to call.

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Speaker 2: Here's a text that thinks it's okay to do whatever

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01:04:58,493 --> 01:05:01,253
Speaker 2: you want. An employer doesn't own me. I own me.

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01:05:01,493 --> 01:05:05,133
Speaker 2: The idea I should work eight hours a day is ridiculously.

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01:05:07,013 --> 01:05:07,213
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:05:07,413 --> 01:05:08,853
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's what it's for now. I got to

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01:05:08,853 --> 01:05:11,813
Speaker 2: read it as we do verbatim. It's my life. I'll

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Speaker 2: do what i want, work from home I want. It's

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Speaker 2: not slave labor, my life, my time. I'll work as

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01:05:16,213 --> 01:05:18,373
Speaker 2: hard or as loose as I want with my time.

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Speaker 5: Wow, as hard and as loose with their.

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Speaker 2: Time what does working loose me?

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01:05:22,973 --> 01:05:24,693
Speaker 5: I don't know, and is it the time if they're

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Speaker 5: on the clock, that is that's a bold text. Get

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Speaker 5: really keen to hear from you on this one, Alex,

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01:05:31,053 --> 01:05:32,333
Speaker 5: what's your what's your thoughts on this?

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Speaker 22: Hi, guys, Well, there's a couple of schools of thought.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 22: The first thing I would like to say is that

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Speaker 22: you've kind of missed a bit a bit out of

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01:05:43,333 --> 01:05:46,373
Speaker 22: the text. What the person said when they text you

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Speaker 22: was that their working time comes in cycles. So at

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01:05:51,693 --> 01:05:55,493
Speaker 22: parts it's very very busy, wish where whoever that person

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01:05:55,613 --> 01:05:59,293
Speaker 22: is works six days a week and at other times,

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Speaker 22: you know, quiet, so that person is on a salary.

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01:06:03,853 --> 01:06:06,973
Speaker 22: So I would think that it probably all balances it out.

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Speaker 2: So you think, as long as you are as productive

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01:06:11,053 --> 01:06:13,893
Speaker 2: as you need to be, it doesn't matter so much

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01:06:14,013 --> 01:06:17,013
Speaker 2: when you particularly get the work done.

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01:06:17,413 --> 01:06:17,613
Speaker 15: Well.

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Speaker 22: A lot of companies who have employees who work from home,

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01:06:21,933 --> 01:06:25,573
Speaker 22: they don't have a stipulation as to what the working

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01:06:25,573 --> 01:06:30,093
Speaker 22: hours are. It's the amount of time that you spend working.

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Speaker 2: Right, So so does that so if some people have

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Speaker 2: to come into the office, do you think that the

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01:06:39,613 --> 01:06:41,773
Speaker 2: people in the office should be able to operate in

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01:06:41,813 --> 01:06:45,893
Speaker 2: that same sort of way, Alex. So you know, if

1439
01:06:45,893 --> 01:06:48,293
Speaker 2: you're at home, and as this person is written in

1440
01:06:48,293 --> 01:06:50,293
Speaker 2: the article, they believe if they have to do the laundry,

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01:06:50,293 --> 01:06:52,573
Speaker 2: they do the laundry. So if someone's working in the

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01:06:52,573 --> 01:06:54,413
Speaker 2: office as well, do you think that that's the same

1443
01:06:54,413 --> 01:06:55,973
Speaker 2: for them. If they feel like they need to go

1444
01:06:56,013 --> 01:06:58,093
Speaker 2: out to the chemists, they'll just go out to the chemists.

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Speaker 2: So that the rules should be the same between the

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01:06:59,613 --> 01:07:00,853
Speaker 2: office and work.

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Speaker 22: From home, Well, it depends on the employer, of course,

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01:07:05,093 --> 01:07:08,053
Speaker 22: But you know, people in the office can fudge what

1449
01:07:08,053 --> 01:07:11,333
Speaker 22: they're doing very very easily, and they can sit there

1450
01:07:11,373 --> 01:07:14,613
Speaker 22: a lot, very very busy. They can spend a lot

1451
01:07:14,653 --> 01:07:17,573
Speaker 22: of time chatting and annoy and annoy. There are other

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01:07:18,093 --> 01:07:23,613
Speaker 22: coworkers who are actually trying to work, true, So you know,

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01:07:23,973 --> 01:07:27,893
Speaker 22: it's a hard one and I think different jobs work differently.

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01:07:28,973 --> 01:07:29,493
Speaker 3: A lot of.

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01:07:31,573 --> 01:07:33,933
Speaker 22: A lot of people who work remotely now are in

1456
01:07:33,973 --> 01:07:38,213
Speaker 22: customer services, so you know, they're flatstick when the calls

1457
01:07:38,253 --> 01:07:40,333
Speaker 22: are coming through and then a bit quiet when they're not.

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01:07:40,733 --> 01:07:44,293
Speaker 22: And as that person was saying, they're always available. They

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01:07:44,293 --> 01:07:47,053
Speaker 22: always have their phone with them. So if they went

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01:07:47,213 --> 01:07:50,413
Speaker 22: to put the laundry on and somebody contacted them, or

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01:07:50,453 --> 01:07:52,333
Speaker 22: they'd have to just stop and go and do what

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01:07:52,373 --> 01:07:55,733
Speaker 22: they needed to do for that customer or client or whoever.

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Speaker 2: Alex, if you don't mind me asking, do you work

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Speaker 2: from the home or do you work in on site?

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Speaker 22: I have done both. I'm actually a kitchen and bathroom designer,

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01:08:08,693 --> 01:08:13,013
Speaker 22: so I find working in my home office a lot

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Speaker 22: more productive than working in an office where I get

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01:08:16,412 --> 01:08:19,732
Speaker 22: annoyed by Rex coming in and people popping their head

1469
01:08:19,733 --> 01:08:22,813
Speaker 22: around the corner to interrupt me. And that's kind of

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Speaker 22: really hard when you've got your head into a plan

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Speaker 22: and you're concentrating and designing and doing that. And I

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Speaker 22: think a lot of people probably also find that if

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Speaker 22: they're trying to get something done. You know, it's sometimes

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Speaker 22: employers don't like you shutting your office door either, or

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Speaker 22: you might be in an open plan situation. Sometimes it's

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01:08:44,412 --> 01:08:46,532
Speaker 22: really hard to be productive when you've got a whole

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Speaker 22: lot of stuff going on around you.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Yeah, that's interesting. Did you find though, and this

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Speaker 2: is slightly off topic, Alex, that you miss the comaraderie

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01:08:54,853 --> 01:08:59,532
Speaker 2: of work and the social interaction, even annoying as it

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01:08:59,572 --> 01:09:01,972
Speaker 2: can be. Sometimes when you went from home.

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Speaker 15: In my role.

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01:09:04,692 --> 01:09:08,772
Speaker 22: No, because for me, you know, i'd be on the

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01:09:08,772 --> 01:09:13,293
Speaker 22: phone too, you know, different people like supplies and things

1485
01:09:13,412 --> 01:09:16,053
Speaker 22: like that. And also because I would be out and

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Speaker 22: about seeing clients as well. And you know, with the

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01:09:20,692 --> 01:09:23,173
Speaker 22: cabinet makers, I would be using I would pop on

1488
01:09:24,412 --> 01:09:26,812
Speaker 22: or you know, when I was working for a cabinet maker,

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Speaker 22: you would be in near a couple of days the

1490
01:09:28,812 --> 01:09:32,532
Speaker 22: week anyway. But so you know, swings and roundabouts. But

1491
01:09:32,973 --> 01:09:37,492
Speaker 22: I think people have to be fear as employees and as.

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Speaker 5: Employees, yeah, nicely said.

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Speaker 22: And you know, yeah, you know you shouldn't take the

1494
01:09:42,652 --> 01:09:45,452
Speaker 22: mickey because you don't also bite the hand that feeds you.

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01:09:45,772 --> 01:09:46,012
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:09:46,173 --> 01:09:48,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, think if you call Alex, it's always bad

1497
01:09:48,973 --> 01:09:52,372
Speaker 2: to take the money. Yeah, And that's a r have

1498
01:09:52,372 --> 01:09:53,692
Speaker 2: just said. That was a glob thing to say. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: it's great to take the money.

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Speaker 5: It can be fun. Yeah, And we're going to take

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Speaker 5: more of your calls very shortly. But here's why I

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01:09:58,772 --> 01:10:01,293
Speaker 5: think it's such an interesting discussion because we just went

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01:10:01,333 --> 01:10:03,173
Speaker 5: too far the other way. Right after COVID, we all

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01:10:03,213 --> 01:10:05,093
Speaker 5: worked at home and everybody was taking the money in

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01:10:05,133 --> 01:10:09,133
Speaker 5: a bad way. And I just well a lot of

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01:10:09,213 --> 01:10:12,252
Speaker 5: people were taking the mickey, and then when this particular

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Speaker 5: person in this article is talking about going to the store,

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Speaker 5: starting dinner, doing some laundry, doing a bit of cleaning,

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01:10:16,973 --> 01:10:19,412
Speaker 5: the vacuum cleaning. I still think there's a little bit

1510
01:10:19,452 --> 01:10:21,772
Speaker 5: of sense of that that is back in those days

1511
01:10:21,853 --> 01:10:23,972
Speaker 5: where they people can do what they want because it's

1512
01:10:23,973 --> 01:10:26,532
Speaker 5: crazy times in the world and they're at home. But

1513
01:10:27,412 --> 01:10:28,772
Speaker 5: is that just the way of the world now that

1514
01:10:29,452 --> 01:10:32,652
Speaker 5: some time of your day is spent for life admin,

1515
01:10:32,732 --> 01:10:33,892
Speaker 5: that is just the way of the world.

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01:10:34,253 --> 01:10:36,852
Speaker 2: Well, this Texas says it's much worse for women, and

1517
01:10:36,973 --> 01:10:40,452
Speaker 2: women should have more ability to work at home because

1518
01:10:40,492 --> 01:10:44,812
Speaker 2: they have more because we have more ADMIN to do,

1519
01:10:45,093 --> 01:10:47,932
Speaker 2: we do more in a domestic environment, so it's unfair

1520
01:10:47,973 --> 01:10:50,133
Speaker 2: to ask us to be in the office or to

1521
01:10:50,253 --> 01:10:52,452
Speaker 2: work the same hours in the same way men do.

1522
01:10:52,532 --> 01:10:54,452
Speaker 5: Well, that is very controversial. Oh ight on undred and

1523
01:10:54,452 --> 01:10:56,652
Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty, If you want to respond to that texture.

1524
01:10:56,652 --> 01:10:57,612
Speaker 5: It is sixteen to.

1525
01:10:57,572 --> 01:11:02,173
Speaker 1: Three matt Heath Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon

1526
01:11:02,253 --> 01:11:05,932
Speaker 1: rolls on mad Heathan Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk.

1527
01:11:06,013 --> 01:11:08,532
Speaker 5: Sa'd be thirteen to three, Yeah, and we're talk talking

1528
01:11:08,612 --> 01:11:10,732
Speaker 5: about what you should and shouldn't be allowed to do

1529
01:11:10,812 --> 01:11:13,412
Speaker 5: when you're working from home or working in the office.

1530
01:11:13,412 --> 01:11:15,772
Speaker 2: Can you be on Facebook in the office? Should people

1531
01:11:16,053 --> 01:11:18,093
Speaker 2: that work from home have to operate in the exact

1532
01:11:18,133 --> 01:11:21,852
Speaker 2: same way working office? And someone textas says you've said

1533
01:11:21,853 --> 01:11:27,212
Speaker 2: this text here, you guys need to learn the difference

1534
01:11:27,253 --> 01:11:30,213
Speaker 2: between on salary and working an hourly rate. Text are

1535
01:11:30,213 --> 01:11:31,333
Speaker 2: as we said at start of the hour, we're talking

1536
01:11:31,333 --> 01:11:34,173
Speaker 2: about people on salary. Yeah, because if you're just working

1537
01:11:34,213 --> 01:11:36,972
Speaker 2: an hourly rate and it's completely flexible, then of course

1538
01:11:36,973 --> 01:11:38,772
Speaker 2: you can do what you want. This doesn't really apply.

1539
01:11:38,933 --> 01:11:40,652
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a given from the get go, was all.

1540
01:11:40,652 --> 01:11:41,612
Speaker 5: We're talking about salary here.

1541
01:11:41,692 --> 01:11:41,852
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1542
01:11:41,893 --> 01:11:45,252
Speaker 5: Yeah. And you mentioned a text before from a female

1543
01:11:45,253 --> 01:11:48,532
Speaker 5: text who said that woman should be able to work

1544
01:11:48,532 --> 01:11:50,892
Speaker 5: from home and do these chores more often than men

1545
01:11:51,013 --> 01:11:52,692
Speaker 5: and shouldn't have to come to the office. That has

1546
01:11:52,812 --> 01:11:54,052
Speaker 5: upset a lot of people.

1547
01:11:54,853 --> 01:11:58,732
Speaker 2: Her assertion was that women have more to do in

1548
01:11:58,772 --> 01:12:01,692
Speaker 2: the domestic life, more admin in general to do in life,

1549
01:12:01,772 --> 01:12:04,372
Speaker 2: so they've got a very different experience from men.

1550
01:12:04,612 --> 01:12:04,812
Speaker 5: Yep.

1551
01:12:06,293 --> 01:12:09,213
Speaker 2: She's the prime example of why some employees avoid hiring women,

1552
01:12:09,692 --> 01:12:11,772
Speaker 2: and then they wonder why, why deal with all that

1553
01:12:11,853 --> 01:12:15,093
Speaker 2: drama when you don't have to do some there'd be

1554
01:12:15,093 --> 01:12:19,372
Speaker 2: an interesting topic. Do some employers avoid hiring women? I

1555
01:12:19,372 --> 01:12:24,052
Speaker 2: don't know. There seems to be a lot of employed women. Yeah, exactly, Sorry,

1556
01:12:24,093 --> 01:12:26,492
Speaker 2: that text is wrong and it's bes What about all

1557
01:12:26,492 --> 01:12:29,173
Speaker 2: the single male parents out there? Have a thought for them?

1558
01:12:29,253 --> 01:12:30,772
Speaker 2: I bet you haven't. Yeah, there you go.

1559
01:12:30,853 --> 01:12:32,452
Speaker 5: So if you want to respond to that, teach you

1560
01:12:32,532 --> 01:12:33,213
Speaker 5: more than welcome to.

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01:12:33,572 --> 01:12:36,572
Speaker 2: It's kind of a different topic. It's kind of like

1562
01:12:36,652 --> 01:12:39,172
Speaker 2: leaving the motorway. They're down a different exit.

1563
01:12:39,532 --> 01:12:41,173
Speaker 5: We said it was controversial, and it's right.

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01:12:41,213 --> 01:12:43,333
Speaker 2: People up, but we're happy to take any text or

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01:12:43,372 --> 01:12:45,093
Speaker 2: any call. Skivis call owe one hundred and eighty ten

1566
01:12:45,133 --> 01:12:45,772
Speaker 2: eighty four lines.

1567
01:12:45,812 --> 01:12:49,093
Speaker 5: But keep trying if you can't get through, Darren, what's

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01:12:49,133 --> 01:12:49,652
Speaker 5: your view on this?

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01:12:51,572 --> 01:12:54,972
Speaker 14: Yeah, good afternoon. Your last gentleman caller and your last

1570
01:12:55,053 --> 01:12:57,213
Speaker 14: lady caller both had some pretty valid points, which I

1571
01:12:57,253 --> 01:12:58,933
Speaker 14: was going to mention the same sence point was just

1572
01:12:58,933 --> 01:12:59,932
Speaker 14: going over the same thing.

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01:12:59,973 --> 01:13:01,652
Speaker 6: But I think.

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01:13:01,933 --> 01:13:05,532
Speaker 14: Employers generally show a lot of flexibility. It's you know,

1575
01:13:05,612 --> 01:13:09,972
Speaker 14: people the employee is. Employers will say yes for certain

1576
01:13:10,053 --> 01:13:12,732
Speaker 14: things and then after a while, the employer says no,

1577
01:13:12,853 --> 01:13:15,133
Speaker 14: and that's generally because that person could have been taken

1578
01:13:15,173 --> 01:13:17,892
Speaker 14: the mickey like you've mentioned, or they just ask too

1579
01:13:17,933 --> 01:13:20,893
Speaker 14: much but they don't actually produce too much in comparison.

1580
01:13:20,933 --> 01:13:23,492
Speaker 14: There's no trade off, so it's not just a yes

1581
01:13:23,572 --> 01:13:25,812
Speaker 14: or a no answer. There's a number of different things

1582
01:13:25,853 --> 01:13:28,973
Speaker 14: going on. That's why we have individual employment contracts, the

1583
01:13:29,013 --> 01:13:32,333
Speaker 14: old IEA. But I think if i'm most employeers buy

1584
01:13:32,372 --> 01:13:33,893
Speaker 14: and large try and do the right thing by the

1585
01:13:33,893 --> 01:13:35,892
Speaker 14: employee because I wanted to turn up to the next day.

1586
01:13:35,772 --> 01:13:36,333
Speaker 23: To do the job.

1587
01:13:36,732 --> 01:13:40,612
Speaker 14: But I think if we all take a back seat though,

1588
01:13:41,053 --> 01:13:42,972
Speaker 14: there's one thing we're all missing or not no one

1589
01:13:42,973 --> 01:13:44,973
Speaker 14: seems to be talking about here. It's the customer. A

1590
01:13:45,772 --> 01:13:48,532
Speaker 14: we're all customers after five o'clock. But everyone wants to

1591
01:13:48,572 --> 01:13:50,492
Speaker 14: seem to run away from the work that's actually serving

1592
01:13:50,492 --> 01:13:52,812
Speaker 14: the customer, that's keeping them in a job. So there

1593
01:13:52,853 --> 01:13:54,612
Speaker 14: is a bit of give and take from both sides.

1594
01:13:54,652 --> 01:13:56,732
Speaker 14: But you've got to think about future paypack and safe.

1595
01:13:56,812 --> 01:13:58,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point. Are

1596
01:13:58,973 --> 01:14:00,572
Speaker 2: we very good at assisting where the people?

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01:14:01,013 --> 01:14:01,612
Speaker 17: Other thing too?

1598
01:14:01,732 --> 01:14:03,692
Speaker 14: Just been with the customer? You know, how would you

1599
01:14:03,732 --> 01:14:06,132
Speaker 14: feel if you're you know, let's talk. You mentioned about

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01:14:06,173 --> 01:14:08,692
Speaker 14: some office workers or people other people working from. But

1601
01:14:08,732 --> 01:14:12,412
Speaker 14: if you're anywhere, I don't know, a Rose shop, Bunning's

1602
01:14:12,612 --> 01:14:16,212
Speaker 14: super cheap Ordo pack and say while you're being served,

1603
01:14:16,572 --> 01:14:18,932
Speaker 14: the person just says, oh, my mate's text me. I've

1604
01:14:18,933 --> 01:14:20,133
Speaker 14: got to go on to grab at youal now and

1605
01:14:20,173 --> 01:14:21,772
Speaker 14: start book a holiday for this weekend. It's a really

1606
01:14:21,772 --> 01:14:25,013
Speaker 14: good deal. Won't be too long mate. How long do

1607
01:14:25,013 --> 01:14:26,333
Speaker 14: you think customers are going to put up with that

1608
01:14:26,372 --> 01:14:27,213
Speaker 14: sort of carry on?

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01:14:27,333 --> 01:14:28,893
Speaker 2: Well, Darren, I have to put up with Tyler on

1610
01:14:29,372 --> 01:14:32,412
Speaker 2: Tinder the whole time over there, not concentrating. How good

1611
01:14:32,452 --> 01:14:35,213
Speaker 2: you think, Darren? We are assessing where there's someone is

1612
01:14:35,492 --> 01:14:38,892
Speaker 2: an employee is because everyone says are they productive? And

1613
01:14:38,933 --> 01:14:40,133
Speaker 2: a lot of the text are coming through as long

1614
01:14:40,133 --> 01:14:41,772
Speaker 2: as you get the work done. And it's different if

1615
01:14:41,772 --> 01:14:44,333
Speaker 2: you're behind a counter or whatever, as you say, Darren,

1616
01:14:44,692 --> 01:14:47,612
Speaker 2: But in the job where you're not in customer facing.

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01:14:48,173 --> 01:14:50,452
Speaker 2: How good do you think we are actually at assessing

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01:14:50,492 --> 01:14:53,213
Speaker 2: whether someone is productive or not. You can have your

1619
01:14:53,612 --> 01:14:57,212
Speaker 2: employment contract individual employment contract, but how do you actually

1620
01:14:57,772 --> 01:15:02,293
Speaker 2: know if they're productive or they're giving you enough? Are

1621
01:15:02,293 --> 01:15:02,852
Speaker 2: we good at that?

1622
01:15:04,933 --> 01:15:05,133
Speaker 17: Well?

1623
01:15:05,173 --> 01:15:07,372
Speaker 14: We always want more you know, like put your hand

1624
01:15:07,452 --> 01:15:08,772
Speaker 14: up as high as you can go, and then you

1625
01:15:08,812 --> 01:15:10,692
Speaker 14: ask them to give them give another inch and they

1626
01:15:10,692 --> 01:15:12,213
Speaker 14: give you another rench. But why didn't they do that

1627
01:15:12,253 --> 01:15:15,572
Speaker 14: the first time? It's it's just human nature.

1628
01:15:15,612 --> 01:15:16,253
Speaker 13: It's what we do.

1629
01:15:16,812 --> 01:15:18,933
Speaker 14: But I think we all need to think about the

1630
01:15:18,973 --> 01:15:21,572
Speaker 14: next person sometimes instead of worrying about ourselves too much.

1631
01:15:21,572 --> 01:15:24,052
Speaker 14: And things do balance themselves out if we're all scratching

1632
01:15:24,093 --> 01:15:25,932
Speaker 14: each other's back. And that's what they call a quality

1633
01:15:25,933 --> 01:15:29,293
Speaker 14: in modern work, in modern terms, but there seems to

1634
01:15:29,372 --> 01:15:30,293
Speaker 14: be a lot of that gone.

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01:15:30,372 --> 01:15:31,452
Speaker 7: Everybody's just about I.

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01:15:31,652 --> 01:15:33,692
Speaker 23: I want to do this, I want to do that.

1637
01:15:34,013 --> 01:15:36,732
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's very nice, Yeah, very nicely, said Darren.

1638
01:15:36,812 --> 01:15:37,692
Speaker 2: Deep from you, Darren.

1639
01:15:37,732 --> 01:15:41,452
Speaker 5: I appreciate it absolutely. It is eight minutes to three,

1640
01:15:41,532 --> 01:15:43,012
Speaker 5: begvery shortly here on Newstalks.

1641
01:15:43,053 --> 01:15:46,572
Speaker 1: 'd be the issues that affect you and a bit

1642
01:15:46,612 --> 01:15:49,293
Speaker 1: of fun along the way. Matd Heath and Taylor Adams

1643
01:15:49,333 --> 01:15:50,852
Speaker 1: afternoons used talks.

1644
01:15:50,893 --> 01:15:51,213
Speaker 3: I'd be.

1645
01:15:53,253 --> 01:15:54,692
Speaker 5: Afternoon, runny. How are you?

1646
01:15:56,053 --> 01:15:56,772
Speaker 22: Oh good? Thank you?

1647
01:15:56,933 --> 01:15:58,053
Speaker 4: How are you very good?

1648
01:15:58,093 --> 01:15:58,213
Speaker 3: Now?

1649
01:15:58,253 --> 01:15:59,012
Speaker 5: You work from home?

1650
01:16:00,133 --> 01:16:02,572
Speaker 23: I have been looking from home for about seventy years.

1651
01:16:02,612 --> 01:16:06,253
Speaker 23: I've changed jobs as well. So what I what I

1652
01:16:06,253 --> 01:16:08,972
Speaker 23: would like to say is like you can't those things.

1653
01:16:09,612 --> 01:16:14,812
Speaker 23: It has extreme situations because I mean working from home

1654
01:16:14,933 --> 01:16:18,053
Speaker 23: and sort of going to take you know, put the

1655
01:16:19,412 --> 01:16:22,412
Speaker 23: get the chicken, or those freeze or something is quite

1656
01:16:22,532 --> 01:16:27,372
Speaker 23: different from you going out and sort of doing your

1657
01:16:28,013 --> 01:16:31,852
Speaker 23: gardening and you know, washing and all sorts of stuff

1658
01:16:32,692 --> 01:16:35,612
Speaker 23: that takes much longer like and working from But the

1659
01:16:35,652 --> 01:16:40,293
Speaker 23: difference I've done both working exclusively from office, even working

1660
01:16:40,333 --> 01:16:44,093
Speaker 23: from office. In the office, you get water cooler conversations,

1661
01:16:44,173 --> 01:16:48,572
Speaker 23: death conversations, kitchen conversations. I mean, there's there's quite a

1662
01:16:48,572 --> 01:16:51,333
Speaker 23: lot of time wasted there as well, even though you're

1663
01:16:51,812 --> 01:16:55,852
Speaker 23: officially in the office so you're not in your desk.

1664
01:16:56,492 --> 01:16:59,692
Speaker 2: Is that time all wasted or is it because you know,

1665
01:16:59,732 --> 01:17:02,053
Speaker 2: people say that that kind of interaction is great for

1666
01:17:02,053 --> 01:17:02,812
Speaker 2: your mental health.

1667
01:17:04,293 --> 01:17:07,852
Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean, I guess, but that's different from somebody.

1668
01:17:07,853 --> 01:17:10,293
Speaker 23: So if you're at home, you will have your teams

1669
01:17:10,372 --> 01:17:14,253
Speaker 23: or zoom conversations, but that is usually about work. But

1670
01:17:14,732 --> 01:17:16,973
Speaker 23: you know, if you have a water cooler conversation with

1671
01:17:17,093 --> 01:17:19,892
Speaker 23: some people and then kitchens and you know, all sorts

1672
01:17:19,893 --> 01:17:24,213
Speaker 23: of places it in the office, that's not usually about work.

1673
01:17:24,933 --> 01:17:29,853
Speaker 23: So if you just look at the time spent or aversus.

1674
01:17:30,093 --> 01:17:34,372
Speaker 23: If you term the other one less time wasted probably

1675
01:17:34,612 --> 01:17:39,013
Speaker 23: or non officials, then I feel that essentially at the

1676
01:17:39,093 --> 01:17:46,093
Speaker 23: office you do spend there's quite a large proportion of unseen,

1677
01:17:46,333 --> 01:17:53,372
Speaker 23: sort of unacknowledged time that is not spent on working.

1678
01:17:53,652 --> 01:17:56,412
Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't think there's a distinction between taking the

1679
01:17:56,452 --> 01:17:58,932
Speaker 5: checking out and mowing the lawn, for example, or getting

1680
01:17:58,973 --> 01:18:01,052
Speaker 5: down to the post office. But good discussion.

1681
01:18:01,133 --> 01:18:02,732
Speaker 2: Thank you if you call running. We've run out of

1682
01:18:02,732 --> 01:18:04,492
Speaker 2: time on this topic, but it's been a great.

1683
01:18:04,253 --> 01:18:06,692
Speaker 5: One, certainly has Thank you to everyone who phoned and

1684
01:18:06,772 --> 01:18:09,292
Speaker 5: text on that one. Right coming up to three o'clock.

1685
01:18:09,692 --> 01:18:13,013
Speaker 5: The price of keeping up pit? Are we spending too

1686
01:18:13,133 --> 01:18:16,932
Speaker 5: much on our beloved dogs, cats, parrots?

1687
01:18:17,333 --> 01:18:19,053
Speaker 2: How cheaply can you keep a pit?

1688
01:18:19,293 --> 01:18:19,532
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1689
01:18:19,572 --> 01:18:21,253
Speaker 5: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty if you want

1690
01:18:21,253 --> 01:18:23,973
Speaker 5: to get an early Andrew is standing by a new

1691
01:18:24,013 --> 01:18:25,812
Speaker 5: sport and weather on its way. You're listening to matt

1692
01:18:25,853 --> 01:18:38,733
Speaker 5: and Tyler. Very good afternoon to you.

1693
01:18:38,732 --> 01:18:43,253
Speaker 1: Your new homes are instateful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

1694
01:18:43,293 --> 01:18:46,372
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons.

1695
01:18:45,532 --> 01:18:47,133
Speaker 2: On news Talk Sebby.

1696
01:18:47,692 --> 01:18:50,532
Speaker 5: Get a to you. Welcome back into the show seven

1697
01:18:50,732 --> 01:18:51,372
Speaker 5: past three.

1698
01:18:51,652 --> 01:18:54,452
Speaker 2: Tell you what's interesting being here in the my Costing

1699
01:18:54,532 --> 01:18:58,612
Speaker 2: Memorial studio because outside there everyone's getting ready for the

1700
01:18:58,692 --> 01:19:01,532
Speaker 2: radio awards. So there's a whole what would you call

1701
01:19:01,572 --> 01:19:04,933
Speaker 2: it a makeup room being set up there, a dressing room, mate, ye,

1702
01:19:05,412 --> 01:19:07,452
Speaker 2: backstage area, green room.

1703
01:19:07,532 --> 01:19:10,812
Speaker 5: Everyone's getting gold ammed up out there looking resplendent. There's

1704
01:19:10,853 --> 01:19:12,092
Speaker 5: a sharkuterie board.

1705
01:19:12,293 --> 01:19:18,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's lovely frocks and impressive here and makeup,

1706
01:19:18,372 --> 01:19:20,733
Speaker 2: and there's people working walking around tuxedos.

1707
01:19:20,893 --> 01:19:23,293
Speaker 5: Yeah. The radio awards, of course start in about two

1708
01:19:23,293 --> 01:19:25,732
Speaker 5: hours time now. Just on the cheeseboard. I did see

1709
01:19:25,772 --> 01:19:28,133
Speaker 5: you go for a little bit of Canon beer and

1710
01:19:28,213 --> 01:19:30,612
Speaker 5: Carrie kerry woodem came up to you and see if

1711
01:19:30,652 --> 01:19:31,492
Speaker 5: slapped my hand Yees.

1712
01:19:31,732 --> 01:19:32,772
Speaker 2: Are you getting your hair and makeup?

1713
01:19:32,772 --> 01:19:33,012
Speaker 13: None?

1714
01:19:33,093 --> 01:19:36,253
Speaker 2: No, because they've all put in for the hair and makeup,

1715
01:19:36,333 --> 01:19:37,532
Speaker 2: so we're not allowed that near that.

1716
01:19:38,692 --> 01:19:39,652
Speaker 5: Do we get drinks in here?

1717
01:19:39,652 --> 01:19:39,852
Speaker 1: Though?

1718
01:19:39,893 --> 01:19:42,092
Speaker 5: I think I can see there's drinks are flowing, so there's.

1719
01:19:42,053 --> 01:19:44,253
Speaker 2: Mimosas out there. I don't think we're allowed those either,

1720
01:19:44,412 --> 01:19:44,772
Speaker 2: all right?

1721
01:19:44,893 --> 01:19:46,692
Speaker 5: I reckon Andrew could sneak us a couple.

1722
01:19:46,492 --> 01:19:49,613
Speaker 2: Maybe, well maybe I stole a bag of the snacker Championships.

1723
01:19:49,893 --> 01:19:51,412
Speaker 2: That'll teach them they can't stop me.

1724
01:19:51,492 --> 01:19:53,813
Speaker 5: Yeah right, This is going to be a great discussion

1725
01:19:53,812 --> 01:19:55,973
Speaker 5: for the next forty five minutes. The real cost of

1726
01:19:56,013 --> 01:19:57,932
Speaker 5: owning pets in New Zealand, so the cost of living

1727
01:19:57,973 --> 01:20:01,133
Speaker 5: crisis is affecting the furry and four leggod members of

1728
01:20:01,133 --> 01:20:04,813
Speaker 5: the family. According to a new survey from bd PIT Insurance,

1729
01:20:04,853 --> 01:20:07,372
Speaker 5: half of pet owners say they've cut back their personal

1730
01:20:07,372 --> 01:20:10,093
Speaker 5: expenses to afford pit here and just underhalf of have

1731
01:20:10,213 --> 01:20:13,053
Speaker 5: cut back spending on their pets while still trying to

1732
01:20:13,093 --> 01:20:18,293
Speaker 5: maintain a similar quality for them. And I think a

1733
01:20:18,333 --> 01:20:21,012
Speaker 5: lot of pet owners would know the cost of owning

1734
01:20:21,412 --> 01:20:25,012
Speaker 5: many pets is crazy. Are very very expensive beans?

1735
01:20:25,412 --> 01:20:27,572
Speaker 2: Yeah? But did they do they have to be.

1736
01:20:29,532 --> 01:20:29,812
Speaker 6: Eighty?

1737
01:20:29,893 --> 01:20:32,772
Speaker 2: Can you look after a dog cheaply? Because everyone when

1738
01:20:32,812 --> 01:20:35,133
Speaker 2: you read this article, it's like it's so expensive, listening

1739
01:20:35,173 --> 01:20:37,253
Speaker 2: all these things, listening all these things. But have we

1740
01:20:37,372 --> 01:20:39,613
Speaker 2: just been sold the lie that pets are expensive?

1741
01:20:40,772 --> 01:20:41,012
Speaker 13: Cook?

1742
01:20:41,053 --> 01:20:44,333
Speaker 2: Can we not just buy a huge like dogs? For example,

1743
01:20:44,572 --> 01:20:48,772
Speaker 2: they'll eat anything. Yeah, dogs will eat absolutely anything. Dogs

1744
01:20:48,772 --> 01:20:52,573
Speaker 2: will put their faces anywhere, dogs will eat things so disgusting.

1745
01:20:53,133 --> 01:20:55,372
Speaker 2: Dogs will eat things that have been made by other dogs,

1746
01:20:55,372 --> 01:20:58,293
Speaker 2: if you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so, and yet

1747
01:20:58,333 --> 01:21:01,452
Speaker 2: we're spending all this money on fancy special dog food

1748
01:21:01,492 --> 01:21:04,692
Speaker 2: for these beasts that don't care. Shouldn't you just buy

1749
01:21:04,732 --> 01:21:07,732
Speaker 2: the cheapest bulk biscuits and feed the dog and the

1750
01:21:07,772 --> 01:21:10,093
Speaker 2: dogs happy, maybe hipping something off the plate every now

1751
01:21:10,093 --> 01:21:11,572
Speaker 2: and then. And why is it so expensive to keep

1752
01:21:11,572 --> 01:21:11,852
Speaker 2: a dog?

1753
01:21:11,893 --> 01:21:13,652
Speaker 5: Well, that is a good point, and maybe I've fallen

1754
01:21:13,692 --> 01:21:16,532
Speaker 5: into this trap. But we spend one hundred and sixty

1755
01:21:16,532 --> 01:21:18,772
Speaker 5: bucks for a bag of dog food for Pepper, our

1756
01:21:18,853 --> 01:21:21,532
Speaker 5: dog as long does it lasts just over a week.

1757
01:21:21,812 --> 01:21:23,772
Speaker 5: So that is an excessive amount of money.

1758
01:21:24,093 --> 01:21:25,213
Speaker 2: My god?

1759
01:21:25,412 --> 01:21:27,892
Speaker 5: Why because we went down this massive rabbit hole of

1760
01:21:27,973 --> 01:21:30,492
Speaker 5: quality of life? And so it's part raw food, it's

1761
01:21:30,532 --> 01:21:33,532
Speaker 5: part dry food. Apparently this is the krem de la

1762
01:21:33,572 --> 01:21:35,892
Speaker 5: creme of dog food. That's going to mean Pepper lives

1763
01:21:35,933 --> 01:21:38,652
Speaker 5: a long and happy life. And maybe I've been sucking

1764
01:21:38,692 --> 01:21:41,852
Speaker 5: in maybe just some stock standards, you know, ten kilo

1765
01:21:42,013 --> 01:21:46,173
Speaker 5: bag of kibble would do just fine. Yeah, but then

1766
01:21:46,213 --> 01:21:48,812
Speaker 5: the treats on top of that, Oh man, so she

1767
01:21:48,893 --> 01:21:51,293
Speaker 5: gets these you've heard of the ball pizzles.

1768
01:21:52,333 --> 01:21:54,692
Speaker 2: This isn't a cost of living crisis. This is a

1769
01:21:54,732 --> 01:21:57,973
Speaker 2: cost of insanity crisis. So these bullpulls pizzles. Let me

1770
01:21:57,973 --> 01:22:00,772
Speaker 2: tell you about the ball pizzles. So it's effectively and

1771
01:22:00,772 --> 01:22:03,333
Speaker 2: I'm not being crude here, but it's dried ball penises

1772
01:22:03,572 --> 01:22:05,852
Speaker 2: and effectively excuse me, Tyland.

1773
01:22:05,893 --> 01:22:08,732
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Pepper, she really enjoys them and it keeps

1774
01:22:08,732 --> 01:22:10,452
Speaker 5: her quiet for a good hour because it takes a

1775
01:22:10,492 --> 01:22:12,572
Speaker 5: long time to chew through these these ball pizzles. But

1776
01:22:12,652 --> 01:22:15,253
Speaker 5: that bag of pizzles for we get fifteen, that's another

1777
01:22:15,253 --> 01:22:17,892
Speaker 5: sixty bucks she gets through one of those every two weeks.

1778
01:22:18,732 --> 01:22:20,973
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, you're getting paid too much for Matt and

1779
01:22:20,973 --> 01:22:23,133
Speaker 2: Tyler afternoon. It's going to go so long and go

1780
01:22:23,173 --> 01:22:27,173
Speaker 2: back and look at your contract. So so do you

1781
01:22:27,253 --> 01:22:30,492
Speaker 2: think that it's absolutely necessary for you to spend that

1782
01:22:30,572 --> 01:22:35,412
Speaker 2: much money on Pepper or because what I'm saying here,

1783
01:22:35,652 --> 01:22:37,812
Speaker 2: we've got this whole article and it's basically winging and

1784
01:22:37,853 --> 01:22:40,892
Speaker 2: whining that dogs are so expensive. But I would say

1785
01:22:41,133 --> 01:22:44,972
Speaker 2: it's just that people have either been tricked or are

1786
01:22:45,253 --> 01:22:50,213
Speaker 2: choosing to overpamper their dogs and cats. And I would

1787
01:22:50,293 --> 01:22:52,452
Speaker 2: say that that's more in your mind than it is

1788
01:22:52,492 --> 01:22:53,892
Speaker 2: in the dog or cat's mind.

1789
01:22:53,812 --> 01:22:57,972
Speaker 5: Cat doesn't care. Cats ale eat rats, Yeah, give cats

1790
01:22:57,973 --> 01:22:59,972
Speaker 5: and jelly meat. You can get some pretty cheap jelly meat.

1791
01:22:59,973 --> 01:23:01,133
Speaker 5: What is it chefs? Yep?

1792
01:23:01,333 --> 01:23:02,732
Speaker 2: Is it chefs? Is that the good one?

1793
01:23:02,812 --> 01:23:03,452
Speaker 5: I think chiefs?

1794
01:23:03,532 --> 01:23:03,692
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1795
01:23:03,933 --> 01:23:05,693
Speaker 5: Cats perfers share?

1796
01:23:05,213 --> 01:23:07,732
Speaker 2: How many? How much is it for a bloody can

1797
01:23:07,772 --> 01:23:08,493
Speaker 2: of chefs?

1798
01:23:08,492 --> 01:23:08,852
Speaker 5: Not a lot?

1799
01:23:08,893 --> 01:23:10,452
Speaker 2: And that's all you need to give a dog chefs

1800
01:23:10,452 --> 01:23:11,492
Speaker 2: and water and they're happy.

1801
01:23:11,572 --> 01:23:13,973
Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. I'm telling you, I

1802
01:23:13,973 --> 01:23:17,293
Speaker 5: mean if we stick with food specifically, maybe I have

1803
01:23:17,492 --> 01:23:19,452
Speaker 5: just been sold a bit of a fantasy here. But

1804
01:23:20,093 --> 01:23:22,133
Speaker 5: you care about your dog's life, right, you want it

1805
01:23:22,173 --> 01:23:26,652
Speaker 5: to live as long as possible, and the food aspect,

1806
01:23:26,692 --> 01:23:28,692
Speaker 5: particularly for dogs, and maybe it's the same for cats.

1807
01:23:28,692 --> 01:23:30,572
Speaker 5: To me, it's confusing as all. Well, you know this

1808
01:23:30,692 --> 01:23:32,892
Speaker 5: big trend about raw food. We had her on raw

1809
01:23:32,893 --> 01:23:35,093
Speaker 5: food for a little bit, and then I started to

1810
01:23:35,093 --> 01:23:37,372
Speaker 5: read some more stuff that apparently raw is not good

1811
01:23:37,372 --> 01:23:39,692
Speaker 5: for a dog. So maybe maybe I'm falling into a

1812
01:23:39,692 --> 01:23:40,093
Speaker 5: trap here.

1813
01:23:40,133 --> 01:23:42,892
Speaker 2: It's a cost of insanity crisis I'm looking at if

1814
01:23:42,933 --> 01:23:45,772
Speaker 2: we go to cats here, I'm looking at a just

1815
01:23:45,812 --> 01:23:47,333
Speaker 2: because this is what we used to feed our cats

1816
01:23:47,372 --> 01:23:50,892
Speaker 2: when I was a kid on the Farm Chef's classic

1817
01:23:50,933 --> 01:23:54,213
Speaker 2: wet cat food chicken and lamb. Yeah, for sixty nine

1818
01:23:54,532 --> 01:23:57,532
Speaker 2: for seven hundred grams. I mean, so that would that

1819
01:23:57,572 --> 01:23:59,492
Speaker 2: would last a couple of weeks for a cat, wouldn't it. Well,

1820
01:23:59,532 --> 01:24:01,893
Speaker 2: let's say let's say it lasts a week. That's for

1821
01:24:02,093 --> 01:24:04,452
Speaker 2: sixty nine. You're currently for your dog? What are you

1822
01:24:04,492 --> 01:24:06,293
Speaker 2: spending a week? And then there's the vet bills and

1823
01:24:06,372 --> 01:24:07,853
Speaker 2: you've got daycare.

1824
01:24:07,933 --> 01:24:11,812
Speaker 5: Green pet insurance we pay for that? Oh wait, hundred

1825
01:24:11,893 --> 01:24:13,852
Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty is the number to call? How much

1826
01:24:13,933 --> 01:24:15,213
Speaker 5: is too much to spend on a pet?

1827
01:24:15,412 --> 01:24:18,372
Speaker 2: And can you keep a pet cheaply and love it

1828
01:24:18,572 --> 01:24:20,772
Speaker 2: just as much as insane people like Tyler?

1829
01:24:20,812 --> 01:24:25,652
Speaker 5: It's twelve past three afternoon, it is quarter past three,

1830
01:24:25,692 --> 01:24:28,572
Speaker 5: and we're talking about the cost of owning a pet,

1831
01:24:28,893 --> 01:24:33,452
Speaker 5: and particularly around food, dog food, cat food, bird food.

1832
01:24:33,492 --> 01:24:36,692
Speaker 5: I suppose I mentioned before we spend roughly one hundred

1833
01:24:36,732 --> 01:24:38,572
Speaker 5: and sixty bucks for just over a week and a

1834
01:24:38,612 --> 01:24:41,372
Speaker 5: bit's worth of food for our dog. Have I fallen

1835
01:24:41,412 --> 01:24:44,173
Speaker 5: into a bit of a trap of lunacy around The

1836
01:24:44,293 --> 01:24:47,093
Speaker 5: argument is that good food means people will live a

1837
01:24:47,173 --> 01:24:49,612
Speaker 5: long and happy and healthy life, and that's what we

1838
01:24:49,612 --> 01:24:50,612
Speaker 5: want out of it pets.

1839
01:24:50,452 --> 01:24:53,412
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think you've been ripped off myself. And

1840
01:24:53,452 --> 01:24:55,253
Speaker 2: I think people that are winging about how expensive it

1841
01:24:55,293 --> 01:24:59,052
Speaker 2: is to keep a pet just just not making sensible

1842
01:24:59,093 --> 01:25:03,412
Speaker 2: decisions around their pets. Oh eight hundred said it, said it, Warren,

1843
01:25:03,452 --> 01:25:04,293
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

1844
01:25:05,853 --> 01:25:10,532
Speaker 6: Yes, good chaps, about living a healthy life with the

1845
01:25:10,772 --> 01:25:14,253
Speaker 6: good dog food. About ten years ago, we went on

1846
01:25:14,293 --> 01:25:16,732
Speaker 6: a fishing trip off Tawanna and there's a bunch of

1847
01:25:16,732 --> 01:25:19,333
Speaker 6: blakes didn't know each other. So myself and this old

1848
01:25:19,333 --> 01:25:23,012
Speaker 6: boy line we got the groceries together. So everyone's having

1849
01:25:23,013 --> 01:25:25,772
Speaker 6: a beer as we left harbor, and we made these

1850
01:25:25,812 --> 01:25:29,852
Speaker 6: beautiful crackers with this beautiful meat patai on it, and

1851
01:25:30,093 --> 01:25:32,532
Speaker 6: we made a plate full and off we went, and

1852
01:25:32,572 --> 01:25:35,732
Speaker 6: the boys were into them, scuffing them. And we went

1853
01:25:35,772 --> 01:25:37,893
Speaker 6: back to the galley and we made another plate for

1854
01:25:38,572 --> 01:25:41,572
Speaker 6: but this time I took out the big giant tinored

1855
01:25:41,652 --> 01:25:45,692
Speaker 6: dog food which was on the crackers. The boys were

1856
01:25:45,732 --> 01:25:50,412
Speaker 6: loving it. That's healthy, that's cheap, there's nutritious. The boys

1857
01:25:50,452 --> 01:25:54,173
Speaker 6: got to know each other very well, very quickly. One

1858
01:25:54,213 --> 01:25:56,333
Speaker 6: guy had two, he's a peg. One guy had two

1859
01:25:56,333 --> 01:25:58,253
Speaker 6: in his hands and one in his mouth. He saw

1860
01:25:58,293 --> 01:25:59,852
Speaker 6: the dog ten and he carried off.

1861
01:26:00,492 --> 01:26:03,133
Speaker 5: Wow, well we'll play the dog food.

1862
01:26:03,133 --> 01:26:03,812
Speaker 2: Are we talking here?

1863
01:26:04,812 --> 01:26:07,293
Speaker 6: I can't the big, the big meaty one that you

1864
01:26:07,333 --> 01:26:09,532
Speaker 6: guys are mentioning. I think it's a big, chunky, big

1865
01:26:09,893 --> 01:26:10,932
Speaker 6: chiefs red.

1866
01:26:11,253 --> 01:26:14,452
Speaker 2: I think a shifts is a classic.

1867
01:26:15,572 --> 01:26:17,852
Speaker 6: Everything. Yeah, you need, guys, So.

1868
01:26:18,173 --> 01:26:20,173
Speaker 2: You're flipping this on the head. Not only are people

1869
01:26:20,173 --> 01:26:23,492
Speaker 2: spending too much on feeding their pets, we're spending too

1870
01:26:23,532 --> 01:26:26,253
Speaker 2: much on feeding ourselves. And all we need is a couple.

1871
01:26:25,973 --> 01:26:29,532
Speaker 6: Of dead right, And the boys loved it, went back

1872
01:26:29,532 --> 01:26:33,412
Speaker 6: for more. Yeah, Well it's interesting because the bloody restaurants

1873
01:26:33,412 --> 01:26:35,492
Speaker 6: probably serve it up to you anyway.

1874
01:26:35,853 --> 01:26:37,812
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's interesally because it is not for human

1875
01:26:37,853 --> 01:26:40,772
Speaker 2: consumption on the side, And I've always wondered about that,

1876
01:26:40,853 --> 01:26:43,212
Speaker 2: and I looked into a one point. It's more just around.

1877
01:26:44,532 --> 01:26:48,173
Speaker 2: It's not for human consumption. It's more around the it's

1878
01:26:48,213 --> 01:26:50,093
Speaker 2: more complicated than that. I mean, it's not because it

1879
01:26:50,293 --> 01:26:52,013
Speaker 2: is not for human consumption doesn't mean it's going to

1880
01:26:52,093 --> 01:26:52,652
Speaker 2: hurt you.

1881
01:26:53,013 --> 01:26:54,253
Speaker 5: Yeah, it just comes.

1882
01:26:55,652 --> 01:26:58,492
Speaker 6: Yeah years ago, we're talking late late sexties. I was

1883
01:26:58,532 --> 01:27:01,293
Speaker 6: young color. I was at school in a little hit

1884
01:27:01,333 --> 01:27:05,652
Speaker 6: town called bunny thowt by Shielding and there was we

1885
01:27:05,772 --> 01:27:10,012
Speaker 6: started a little fundraising thing because we found then people

1886
01:27:10,093 --> 01:27:13,892
Speaker 6: in Fielding were living on pet food because they couldn't

1887
01:27:13,893 --> 01:27:19,333
Speaker 6: afford food. Then. Yeah, that's a true story. So it's

1888
01:27:19,333 --> 01:27:21,972
Speaker 6: been going on for years in a serious mode.

1889
01:27:22,532 --> 01:27:25,333
Speaker 5: I'm surprised the boys went back for seconds, mate. I mean, well,

1890
01:27:25,372 --> 01:27:27,612
Speaker 5: when you busted out the can of dog food, would

1891
01:27:27,612 --> 01:27:29,652
Speaker 5: have thought they'd be rightmutiny.

1892
01:27:29,933 --> 01:27:31,452
Speaker 6: Oh it's great. I think they're on b A four

1893
01:27:31,532 --> 01:27:34,252
Speaker 6: by then, so it was pretty painless. Painless.

1894
01:27:34,333 --> 01:27:38,572
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, so you're still getting invited on those trips

1895
01:27:38,612 --> 01:27:40,732
Speaker 5: now they know that you're feeding serving dog food.

1896
01:27:41,253 --> 01:27:42,732
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I ran the trip all right.

1897
01:27:43,133 --> 01:27:45,372
Speaker 2: People still coming with you now they dog foods on

1898
01:27:45,372 --> 01:27:46,532
Speaker 2: the menu, cat food?

1899
01:27:46,772 --> 01:27:49,213
Speaker 6: Oh yeah. Some of them started personing against the side

1900
01:27:49,213 --> 01:27:49,612
Speaker 6: of the boat.

1901
01:27:50,572 --> 01:27:53,732
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, that happens. Yeah, I mean they're just

1902
01:27:53,812 --> 01:27:56,372
Speaker 5: marking their territory, Warring. Yeah, you just need a we

1903
01:27:56,452 --> 01:27:57,133
Speaker 5: spray bottle for that.

1904
01:27:57,372 --> 01:27:57,572
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1905
01:27:57,772 --> 01:28:00,372
Speaker 2: That was thanks for your call, Warren. It's interesting because

1906
01:28:00,372 --> 01:28:03,533
Speaker 2: pet foods are tested for salmonella and other bacterial contaminants.

1907
01:28:04,532 --> 01:28:07,213
Speaker 2: If they found they recalled just like food for humans,

1908
01:28:07,293 --> 01:28:11,972
Speaker 2: dog nutrients require it's actually fairly similar to human as

1909
01:28:12,013 --> 01:28:15,612
Speaker 2: they're both omnivores. Yeah, so in times of poverty and

1910
01:28:15,692 --> 01:28:19,812
Speaker 2: in this case, times of humor, then you can just

1911
01:28:19,893 --> 01:28:23,692
Speaker 2: munch munch into the cat or dog food. But that's

1912
01:28:23,732 --> 01:28:25,333
Speaker 2: not really the topic. We've sort of gone off topic,

1913
01:28:25,372 --> 01:28:25,652
Speaker 2: isn't it.

1914
01:28:25,692 --> 01:28:27,732
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I mean that there's a few techs coming

1915
01:28:27,772 --> 01:28:30,132
Speaker 5: through about pet insurance as well, and that is another

1916
01:28:30,612 --> 01:28:33,892
Speaker 5: element to this is we do have a pet insurance

1917
01:28:33,933 --> 01:28:36,372
Speaker 5: and look, arguably we spend too much on the food department,

1918
01:28:36,412 --> 01:28:39,213
Speaker 5: but peed insurance that is a hell I die on.

1919
01:28:39,372 --> 01:28:42,692
Speaker 5: But a lot of people would say to us that

1920
01:28:42,732 --> 01:28:44,892
Speaker 5: pet assurance is a waste of money. That if you

1921
01:28:45,013 --> 01:28:47,652
Speaker 5: want to set aside some money each week yourself for

1922
01:28:47,692 --> 01:28:50,572
Speaker 5: those vet bills because vets are crazy expensive. But I

1923
01:28:50,572 --> 01:28:52,853
Speaker 5: don't know, pet insurance to me is a no brainer.

1924
01:28:52,933 --> 01:28:55,333
Speaker 2: Is it true that I've heard? Because we go to

1925
01:28:55,452 --> 01:28:59,172
Speaker 2: a bow Moral vet and seems to be quite expensive,

1926
01:28:59,213 --> 01:29:00,692
Speaker 2: But we go in to a vet right in the

1927
01:29:00,692 --> 01:29:03,452
Speaker 2: middle of Auckland where everything's more expensive, car dealerships more

1928
01:29:03,492 --> 01:29:06,013
Speaker 2: expensive that everything. If you just get in your car

1929
01:29:06,053 --> 01:29:08,253
Speaker 2: and drive a bit further to a more sort of

1930
01:29:08,572 --> 01:29:10,213
Speaker 2: rural ven, things.

1931
01:29:09,933 --> 01:29:12,333
Speaker 5: Get cheaper, right if you've got a discount vete. Oh wait,

1932
01:29:12,333 --> 01:29:14,572
Speaker 5: one hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call.

1933
01:29:15,013 --> 01:29:18,253
Speaker 2: And fourteen months cas cost me fourteen thousand dollars at

1934
01:29:18,253 --> 01:29:21,293
Speaker 2: the vet treatment, med's food and one diet. In the

1935
01:29:21,333 --> 01:29:24,412
Speaker 2: same period I spent nine thousand animates for litter and

1936
01:29:24,492 --> 01:29:27,452
Speaker 2: special food. My cats of necessity have to live in

1937
01:29:27,492 --> 01:29:31,333
Speaker 2: a cattio, which they and I hate. What's a cattio?

1938
01:29:31,933 --> 01:29:35,412
Speaker 2: So their treatment was not injury involved. The figure doesn't

1939
01:29:35,452 --> 01:29:38,053
Speaker 2: take in the supermarket food. They're too old for insurance.

1940
01:29:38,893 --> 01:29:40,892
Speaker 2: That's that's an insane amount of money.

1941
01:29:41,093 --> 01:29:43,253
Speaker 5: It is a lot of money. But see there you go,

1942
01:29:43,293 --> 01:29:45,253
Speaker 5: Oh wait, hundred eighty ten eighty how much is too

1943
01:29:45,333 --> 01:29:47,492
Speaker 5: much to spend on your pet? How much are you

1944
01:29:47,572 --> 01:29:50,532
Speaker 5: spending on on your pet food and pet insurance? And

1945
01:29:50,532 --> 01:29:52,892
Speaker 5: this raw diet situation, if you're on the raw diet,

1946
01:29:53,053 --> 01:29:54,852
Speaker 5: love to hear from you. Is it just a fad

1947
01:29:55,053 --> 01:29:57,893
Speaker 5: or is it actually, you know, makes sense or is

1948
01:29:57,893 --> 01:29:58,812
Speaker 5: it just a bit of lunacy.

1949
01:29:58,853 --> 01:30:00,333
Speaker 2: And if you're a human on the chef diet, would

1950
01:30:00,333 --> 01:30:01,133
Speaker 2: also love to hear from you.

1951
01:30:01,253 --> 01:30:08,812
Speaker 5: Twenty parts three Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons call.

1952
01:30:10,372 --> 01:30:13,612
Speaker 2: On us talk savvy. Jeez, Tyler, I'm starting to worry

1953
01:30:13,612 --> 01:30:15,652
Speaker 2: that we're going to be underdressed at the radio Woods night.

1954
01:30:16,612 --> 01:30:18,812
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people out there in taxas. A

1955
01:30:18,812 --> 01:30:21,213
Speaker 2: lot of the guys are wearing black ties.

1956
01:30:20,973 --> 01:30:23,412
Speaker 5: Bow ties. Someone said it was smart casual, but.

1957
01:30:23,612 --> 01:30:25,253
Speaker 2: Elliott Smith looks resplendent.

1958
01:30:25,293 --> 01:30:26,532
Speaker 5: And we're in trouble man.

1959
01:30:26,812 --> 01:30:27,053
Speaker 2: We are.

1960
01:30:27,572 --> 01:30:30,692
Speaker 5: We are talking about the cost of owning pets in

1961
01:30:30,812 --> 01:30:34,012
Speaker 5: the current day and age. There's a survey by PD

1962
01:30:34,213 --> 01:30:36,812
Speaker 5: Pit Insurance that's as many people are trying to cut

1963
01:30:36,853 --> 01:30:38,692
Speaker 5: down on how much they spend on pits. Have we

1964
01:30:38,812 --> 01:30:40,652
Speaker 5: just gone a bit crazy on how much we spend

1965
01:30:40,692 --> 01:30:44,492
Speaker 5: on our dogs, cats, budgies, lamers, plenty of teas coming

1966
01:30:44,492 --> 01:30:45,412
Speaker 5: through on nine two nine two.

1967
01:30:45,853 --> 01:30:48,852
Speaker 2: Hey guys, I've had many a pet none at the moment.

1968
01:30:48,933 --> 01:30:51,892
Speaker 2: Only my chickens, best pits ever laying ear every day

1969
01:30:52,093 --> 01:30:54,213
Speaker 2: and when they don't taste so good in the slow cooker,

1970
01:30:54,532 --> 01:30:56,852
Speaker 2: cheap to run and low maintenance cheers the.

1971
01:30:56,893 --> 01:30:57,692
Speaker 5: Circle of life.

1972
01:30:57,732 --> 01:31:01,452
Speaker 2: So that's the reverse. See a chicken is the reversecaus

1973
01:31:01,452 --> 01:31:03,213
Speaker 2: You got to ask yourself about how much how much

1974
01:31:03,333 --> 01:31:05,012
Speaker 2: is your dog Pepper doing for you around the house?

1975
01:31:05,093 --> 01:31:09,053
Speaker 2: Like what is Pepper's contribution to things doesn't like eggs? Yeah,

1976
01:31:09,093 --> 01:31:11,892
Speaker 2: well the eggs Pepper lays you don't want to eat.

1977
01:31:13,053 --> 01:31:15,013
Speaker 5: Very true, Fraser.

1978
01:31:15,812 --> 01:31:16,932
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Fraser.

1979
01:31:18,093 --> 01:31:21,932
Speaker 9: Good afternoon, Tyler. Can you just give us those the

1980
01:31:21,973 --> 01:31:23,852
Speaker 9: dolar fithers that you were spending on Pepper?

1981
01:31:24,173 --> 01:31:27,572
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's a it's a mix of raw and

1982
01:31:27,572 --> 01:31:30,173
Speaker 5: in kibble. It's one hundred and sixty dollars for three

1983
01:31:30,253 --> 01:31:34,652
Speaker 5: kilograms and that lasts are about a week and a bit, right.

1984
01:31:35,692 --> 01:31:38,172
Speaker 9: I was just wondering if Pepper Action needs a playmate

1985
01:31:38,213 --> 01:31:40,293
Speaker 9: called phrase because the sounds though we should be living

1986
01:31:40,293 --> 01:31:41,733
Speaker 9: at your house mate.

1987
01:31:42,013 --> 01:31:43,653
Speaker 5: Come on around. It's good stuff.

1988
01:31:45,492 --> 01:31:45,812
Speaker 17: We have.

1989
01:31:46,333 --> 01:31:49,692
Speaker 9: We've got Roscoe. He's our pi's of blue heat across

1990
01:31:49,732 --> 01:31:51,973
Speaker 9: their feet. We've put him on a dry diet, but

1991
01:31:52,173 --> 01:31:55,333
Speaker 9: the yu can oberseat senior feet pod for a medium

1992
01:31:55,412 --> 01:31:55,892
Speaker 9: sized style.

1993
01:31:56,372 --> 01:31:58,973
Speaker 18: Yeah, so we spend we spend.

1994
01:31:58,933 --> 01:32:01,333
Speaker 9: About I think the last one we've got was about

1995
01:32:01,333 --> 01:32:04,213
Speaker 9: one hundred and eighty dollars and it'll last us six weeks.

1996
01:32:04,213 --> 01:32:06,253
Speaker 9: And he will also get a mixture of beef bones

1997
01:32:06,612 --> 01:32:08,572
Speaker 9: with his meal a couple of three times a week

1998
01:32:08,612 --> 01:32:11,772
Speaker 9: as well. So yeah, I was just a little bit

1999
01:32:11,893 --> 01:32:16,053
Speaker 9: gobsmack Tyler that your much beloved, much beloved Pepper is

2000
01:32:16,133 --> 01:32:20,412
Speaker 9: probably probably eating more, far better than what the royal

2001
01:32:20,492 --> 01:32:21,053
Speaker 9: family is.

2002
01:32:21,093 --> 01:32:21,333
Speaker 15: Mate.

2003
01:32:21,973 --> 01:32:24,372
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, some weeks she probably eats better than I do.

2004
01:32:24,492 --> 01:32:26,452
Speaker 5: To be honest, have you thought.

2005
01:32:26,293 --> 01:32:28,492
Speaker 2: About that, Tyler? How much do you two you and

2006
01:32:28,532 --> 01:32:30,412
Speaker 2: may have spend on food for yourself in a week.

2007
01:32:30,572 --> 01:32:32,772
Speaker 5: He's probably only a couple hundred bucks between both of us,

2008
01:32:32,772 --> 01:32:35,732
Speaker 5: So yes, she's any better than that. But on this,

2009
01:32:35,732 --> 01:32:38,452
Speaker 5: this your diet thing, Fraser, you must have heard this,

2010
01:32:38,532 --> 01:32:40,612
Speaker 5: and it's something that's that's popped up in the last

2011
01:32:40,612 --> 01:32:42,492
Speaker 5: couple of years. Do you think it's just to have

2012
01:32:42,732 --> 01:32:45,253
Speaker 5: or there's something to it? Clearly the pet food industry

2013
01:32:45,293 --> 01:32:48,812
Speaker 5: is a billion dollar industry. Is it just a bit

2014
01:32:48,853 --> 01:32:51,372
Speaker 5: of a fad? Like anything? You know? They there's a

2015
01:32:51,412 --> 01:32:52,532
Speaker 5: sucker born every minute.

2016
01:32:53,213 --> 01:32:56,452
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's a it's the love of the piece.

2017
01:32:56,853 --> 01:33:02,333
Speaker 9: And you've obviously got a well loved pit at homeful Pepper.

2018
01:33:02,452 --> 01:33:05,172
Speaker 9: We have a well loved pit at home called Roscoe

2019
01:33:05,213 --> 01:33:09,652
Speaker 9: and Biddy the cat, and Fiddy doesn't anything like Moscow does.

2020
01:33:10,013 --> 01:33:11,093
Speaker 7: Pretty pretty is just.

2021
01:33:13,053 --> 01:33:15,933
Speaker 9: Out of the out of the box. Standing dollars ninety.

2022
01:33:15,732 --> 01:33:17,652
Speaker 2: Nine a week, or whatever it is, fancy face.

2023
01:33:19,732 --> 01:33:24,933
Speaker 9: Yeah, and yeah, I just I just I was just doing.

2024
01:33:26,933 --> 01:33:32,092
Speaker 2: It's just doing the mass and around money. Yeah, it's ridiculous.

2025
01:33:32,093 --> 01:33:35,253
Speaker 2: Thanks you called Fraser. We're getting thinking about this is

2026
01:33:35,253 --> 01:33:37,692
Speaker 2: a wider issue than just pets, because because so you're there,

2027
01:33:37,692 --> 01:33:39,972
Speaker 2: you are bitching and complaining about how much you're spending

2028
01:33:40,013 --> 01:33:45,452
Speaker 2: on your bitch. Yeah, yeah, and I and it's what

2029
01:33:45,492 --> 01:33:47,372
Speaker 2: you're doing is you're choosing to spend that much money,

2030
01:33:47,372 --> 01:33:49,372
Speaker 2: so you can't really complain. I was saying this to

2031
01:33:49,412 --> 01:33:51,492
Speaker 2: my partner the other day. She was saying, how expensive

2032
01:33:51,492 --> 01:33:54,213
Speaker 2: are our groceries? And I say, look at our groceries.

2033
01:33:54,492 --> 01:33:58,532
Speaker 2: It's full of Musashi's. It's full of fancy this and

2034
01:33:58,732 --> 01:34:05,732
Speaker 2: bloody fancy that. Yeah, you know, and you know, as

2035
01:34:05,732 --> 01:34:08,652
Speaker 2: she said to me, little packed eat these sam things

2036
01:34:08,652 --> 01:34:10,813
Speaker 2: for breakfast, these little packs frozen salmon.

2037
01:34:10,572 --> 01:34:11,452
Speaker 5: Th beautiful, lovely.

2038
01:34:11,933 --> 01:34:13,652
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's the same thing. I mean, we could

2039
01:34:13,692 --> 01:34:15,532
Speaker 2: choose to eat a lot cheaper than we do. Yeah,

2040
01:34:15,532 --> 01:34:17,492
Speaker 2: and you could choose to feed your dog a lot cheaper.

2041
01:34:17,492 --> 01:34:20,052
Speaker 2: And you're being played for love because you love Pepper

2042
01:34:20,133 --> 01:34:24,253
Speaker 2: so much that you're being your emotions have been played.

2043
01:34:24,452 --> 01:34:26,293
Speaker 5: For money, and is there anything wrong with that, Oh

2044
01:34:26,333 --> 01:34:31,333
Speaker 5: eight hundred eight headlines with ray Lean coming up. Then

2045
01:34:31,333 --> 01:34:33,333
Speaker 5: we're going to pick this conversation back Cup you want

2046
01:34:33,333 --> 01:34:35,612
Speaker 5: to send it. Text nineteen ninety two. It is twenty

2047
01:34:35,652 --> 01:34:36,372
Speaker 5: seven past.

2048
01:34:36,133 --> 01:34:40,972
Speaker 1: Three US talks the headlines.

2049
01:34:40,572 --> 01:34:43,932
Speaker 15: With Blue Bubble taxis. It's no trouble with the Blue bubble.

2050
01:34:44,372 --> 01:34:47,972
Speaker 15: The fate of three Tapati Marii MPs is being debated

2051
01:34:48,013 --> 01:34:51,933
Speaker 15: in the House with suspensions recommended by the Privileges Committee.

2052
01:34:52,213 --> 01:34:56,253
Speaker 15: Labour's Duncan Webb says the proposals are wildly disproportionate.

2053
01:34:56,612 --> 01:34:59,932
Speaker 5: These people have been elected to speak in this House

2054
01:35:00,253 --> 01:35:02,013
Speaker 5: for their constituency.

2055
01:35:02,213 --> 01:35:04,692
Speaker 2: It's their right to speak and.

2056
01:35:04,652 --> 01:35:08,213
Speaker 15: It is the right of their constituency to bes.

2057
01:35:08,333 --> 01:35:08,893
Speaker 6: We've bothn for.

2058
01:35:09,612 --> 01:35:13,253
Speaker 15: The Prime Minister is expressing sadness and sympathy for women

2059
01:35:13,372 --> 01:35:17,173
Speaker 15: impacted by an office staffer who's resigned overclaims he took

2060
01:35:17,173 --> 01:35:20,973
Speaker 15: compromising recordings of sex workers and photos of women he

2061
01:35:21,093 --> 01:35:25,133
Speaker 15: didn't know. A search has begun of Canterbury's Boil River

2062
01:35:25,213 --> 01:35:29,532
Speaker 15: in Hidanui District, with unconfirmed reports of persons being swept away.

2063
01:35:30,053 --> 01:35:34,013
Speaker 15: Rescue teams are responding, joined by helicopter, and fans have

2064
01:35:34,013 --> 01:35:35,852
Speaker 15: had their first look at the trailer for the new

2065
01:35:35,893 --> 01:35:39,133
Speaker 15: Wicked sequel for Good, which will hit big screens in

2066
01:35:39,173 --> 01:35:43,412
Speaker 15: New Zealand in November. Inside the Sacking of Phil Goff,

2067
01:35:43,572 --> 01:35:47,772
Speaker 15: documents reveal behind the scenes activity, emails and texts, and

2068
01:35:47,853 --> 01:35:50,453
Speaker 15: you can see the full story at enzad Herald Premium.

2069
01:35:50,532 --> 01:35:52,372
Speaker 15: Now back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

2070
01:35:52,412 --> 01:35:55,013
Speaker 5: Thank you very much, Raylan. We're talking about the costs

2071
01:35:55,053 --> 01:35:57,572
Speaker 5: of having a pets in New Zealand. A lot of

2072
01:35:57,572 --> 01:36:00,133
Speaker 5: people trying to cut down, but we have been talking

2073
01:36:00,173 --> 01:36:03,772
Speaker 5: about the cost of premium dog and cat food. I

2074
01:36:03,893 --> 01:36:07,052
Speaker 5: pay clearly quite a lot of money for our dog, Pepper,

2075
01:36:07,333 --> 01:36:09,612
Speaker 5: one hundred and sixty bucks for just over a week

2076
01:36:09,732 --> 01:36:11,492
Speaker 5: and a bit. But a lot of people talking about

2077
01:36:11,572 --> 01:36:13,692
Speaker 5: raw diet and I can't get my head around the

2078
01:36:13,772 --> 01:36:14,253
Speaker 5: raw diet.

2079
01:36:14,293 --> 01:36:14,853
Speaker 2: Jimbos.

2080
01:36:15,213 --> 01:36:17,532
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jimbos, that's example of raw diet.

2081
01:36:17,772 --> 01:36:21,253
Speaker 2: Jimbo's is a treat. Yeah. But as I said before,

2082
01:36:21,253 --> 01:36:23,013
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a cost of living crisis that

2083
01:36:23,053 --> 01:36:25,372
Speaker 2: you can add pets onto as you're trying to. I

2084
01:36:25,412 --> 01:36:28,692
Speaker 2: think it's just a luxury belief that you have to

2085
01:36:28,732 --> 01:36:33,492
Speaker 2: feed dogs that kind of expensive food. You're just it's

2086
01:36:34,452 --> 01:36:38,372
Speaker 2: suicidal empathy that you're running there. I'll come around, scissus text.

2087
01:36:38,372 --> 01:36:41,013
Speaker 2: I'll come around and sort your peppers problem with the

2088
01:36:41,053 --> 01:36:43,732
Speaker 2: old farm, shoddy scissus texture, no problems at all. You

2089
01:36:43,772 --> 01:36:45,492
Speaker 2: can pay me with half the cost of your bag

2090
01:36:45,532 --> 01:36:46,492
Speaker 2: of stupid bikies.

2091
01:36:47,093 --> 01:36:48,932
Speaker 5: I don't know if that kind of works because I

2092
01:36:49,013 --> 01:36:53,932
Speaker 5: like Pepper, so Pepper's not the problem. It's just there,

2093
01:36:53,933 --> 01:36:59,013
Speaker 5: doesn't solve any problems. It just creates problems. Like he

2094
01:36:59,133 --> 01:37:01,812
Speaker 5: called it, your pepper problem, not your not your beloved pet.

2095
01:37:01,893 --> 01:37:03,932
Speaker 5: Why would you get the money for taking away my pepper?

2096
01:37:04,812 --> 01:37:05,932
Speaker 2: Greg, welcome to show.

2097
01:37:08,412 --> 01:37:09,732
Speaker 5: Yeah, good good, watch you here.

2098
01:37:10,973 --> 01:37:11,812
Speaker 16: I'm not long ago.

2099
01:37:12,532 --> 01:37:14,492
Speaker 21: Things are get into book tonight. So we were sort

2100
01:37:14,492 --> 01:37:16,093
Speaker 21: of looking at the finances and I keep seeing this

2101
01:37:16,133 --> 01:37:18,412
Speaker 21: two hundred and eighty dollars pop off. And asked the

2102
01:37:18,492 --> 01:37:20,812
Speaker 21: wife what's this? And she's asked for dogs to get

2103
01:37:20,812 --> 01:37:25,333
Speaker 21: a haircut. How much two hundred and eighty dollars? I

2104
01:37:25,333 --> 01:37:27,452
Speaker 21: thought a FuG of us. I went out and bought

2105
01:37:27,452 --> 01:37:29,413
Speaker 21: some dog cuppers and start doing it myself.

2106
01:37:29,692 --> 01:37:31,972
Speaker 2: Ah, and is your wife happy with the results?

2107
01:37:32,933 --> 01:37:33,093
Speaker 17: Why?

2108
01:37:33,173 --> 01:37:38,492
Speaker 21: An like, the poodle's fine, she just sits here. But

2109
01:37:38,532 --> 01:37:41,932
Speaker 21: the ships who think she's a heart alsatian. Well, just

2110
01:37:42,412 --> 01:37:44,612
Speaker 21: try and eat the clipper, try and lick your face,

2111
01:37:44,652 --> 01:37:46,973
Speaker 21: try and jump off for the time I'm finished. She

2112
01:37:46,973 --> 01:37:48,892
Speaker 21: looks she has been running over by the lawn mask.

2113
01:37:49,053 --> 01:37:50,253
Speaker 21: That's not not ideal.

2114
01:37:51,093 --> 01:37:53,572
Speaker 5: That's why you pay money, you know, pay people money

2115
01:37:53,572 --> 01:37:55,213
Speaker 5: for that sort of stuff. Because I'm with you, Greg,

2116
01:37:55,253 --> 01:37:57,692
Speaker 5: I mean, just like trimming toenails on dogs can be

2117
01:37:57,732 --> 01:37:59,172
Speaker 5: an absolute nightmare.

2118
01:38:00,133 --> 01:38:01,093
Speaker 6: I don't know how they do it.

2119
01:38:01,253 --> 01:38:03,253
Speaker 21: They must there must be all there must be a

2120
01:38:03,293 --> 01:38:06,532
Speaker 21: trick like anything and make You were saying before about carryos.

2121
01:38:06,532 --> 01:38:08,293
Speaker 21: So I've built quite a few cardyos to.

2122
01:38:08,372 --> 01:38:10,253
Speaker 2: And what I do, Yeah, what are kiddy goes?

2123
01:38:11,093 --> 01:38:13,173
Speaker 21: Well that's you basically build a small deck and then

2124
01:38:13,293 --> 01:38:16,213
Speaker 21: build a giant boodcage that can be excessed from inside

2125
01:38:16,213 --> 01:38:20,333
Speaker 21: the house and the kits can go outside. But not responsible, right,

2126
01:38:21,532 --> 01:38:24,013
Speaker 21: not blink at three, four, five, six thousand dollars on

2127
01:38:24,053 --> 01:38:26,452
Speaker 21: these things, depending on how big and first they want,

2128
01:38:26,492 --> 01:38:29,532
Speaker 21: you know. So I'm just I call them crazy cat people.

2129
01:38:31,572 --> 01:38:33,572
Speaker 2: Well there's a lot of money to be made from

2130
01:38:33,612 --> 01:38:36,852
Speaker 2: crazy cat and dog people like Tyler. Yeah, absolutely a

2131
01:38:36,853 --> 01:38:38,732
Speaker 2: lot of money to me. Hey, now, Greg, the obvious

2132
01:38:38,812 --> 01:38:41,772
Speaker 2: question when you started trimming your dogs, how do I

2133
01:38:41,772 --> 01:38:44,772
Speaker 2: put this. There's a there's a there's a there's a

2134
01:38:44,812 --> 01:38:46,733
Speaker 2: procedure that also needs to be done.

2135
01:38:47,612 --> 01:38:53,732
Speaker 5: Were you doing that procedure around yeah? Yeah, yeah, around

2136
01:38:53,732 --> 01:38:55,812
Speaker 5: the rear end, around the rear end.

2137
01:38:56,213 --> 01:38:56,412
Speaker 15: Yeah.

2138
01:38:56,452 --> 01:38:59,412
Speaker 21: Well, it's trying to stop the ship to from attacking

2139
01:38:59,412 --> 01:39:01,372
Speaker 21: the coppers while you're trying to do that. That's what

2140
01:39:01,532 --> 01:39:02,372
Speaker 21: she really doesn't like.

2141
01:39:02,692 --> 01:39:04,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're basically what.

2142
01:39:04,452 --> 01:39:06,133
Speaker 21: I finally into do is you put a collar on

2143
01:39:06,173 --> 01:39:09,133
Speaker 21: them on the really short lease and tie up so

2144
01:39:09,133 --> 01:39:11,612
Speaker 21: she can't drop her head and sort of get down there.

2145
01:39:11,652 --> 01:39:14,412
Speaker 21: So you can sort of that part. We need two

2146
01:39:14,412 --> 01:39:16,173
Speaker 21: people to do it, though, because one's going to hold

2147
01:39:16,173 --> 01:39:17,132
Speaker 21: the dog and the other one.

2148
01:39:17,013 --> 01:39:17,652
Speaker 6: To do the clipping.

2149
01:39:18,173 --> 01:39:22,093
Speaker 2: Yeah. Thank you so much for your call, Greg. Good

2150
01:39:22,133 --> 01:39:24,213
Speaker 2: luck with that and good luck with the keadios. It

2151
01:39:24,253 --> 01:39:26,253
Speaker 2: is an interesting point though, with trimming your dog, right,

2152
01:39:26,333 --> 01:39:28,173
Speaker 2: so you could buy clippers, learn how to do it, whatever.

2153
01:39:28,612 --> 01:39:31,253
Speaker 2: But if your dog does nothing like your dog Pepper

2154
01:39:31,293 --> 01:39:34,173
Speaker 2: offers nothing to the world except for making you happy

2155
01:39:34,173 --> 01:39:37,492
Speaker 2: and looking cute, right, Yeah, and so in that case

2156
01:39:37,612 --> 01:39:40,053
Speaker 2: they need have a good haircut, yeah, because they look

2157
01:39:40,173 --> 01:39:43,133
Speaker 2: badly cut up in like a sheet that's just been

2158
01:39:43,173 --> 01:39:45,972
Speaker 2: through the sharing shed. Yeah, then then they're not doing

2159
01:39:46,013 --> 01:39:48,292
Speaker 2: their job as of looking cute exactly.

2160
01:39:48,492 --> 01:39:50,412
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the one thing Pepper does have is

2161
01:39:50,452 --> 01:39:52,932
Speaker 5: that she's a greyhound, so short haired, so she doesn't

2162
01:39:52,933 --> 01:39:57,093
Speaker 5: need the groom in that much. But hey, Spenser food Jim.

2163
01:39:56,893 --> 01:39:58,732
Speaker 2: You've got some ideas on how to minimize the cost

2164
01:39:58,772 --> 01:39:59,372
Speaker 2: of owning a dog.

2165
01:40:00,853 --> 01:40:02,972
Speaker 13: Well, first off, you could turn around and say don't

2166
01:40:03,013 --> 01:40:05,772
Speaker 13: own one, then the problem goes away. But the true

2167
01:40:05,853 --> 01:40:11,973
Speaker 13: two issues create cost for your dogs poor breeding and

2168
01:40:12,173 --> 01:40:16,612
Speaker 13: poor diet. So start with the breeding. Anybody who spends

2169
01:40:16,652 --> 01:40:21,493
Speaker 13: a little bit more by going to a breeder registered

2170
01:40:21,572 --> 01:40:24,732
Speaker 13: with Dogs New Zealand or formerly the New Zealand Kennel

2171
01:40:24,732 --> 01:40:29,093
Speaker 13: Club and doing their background checks on the breed they

2172
01:40:29,173 --> 01:40:32,253
Speaker 13: want are likely to get an animal that does not

2173
01:40:32,612 --> 01:40:34,293
Speaker 13: have genetic defects.

2174
01:40:34,572 --> 01:40:36,732
Speaker 2: That's a very good point that I hadn't thought of that.

2175
01:40:37,053 --> 01:40:37,772
Speaker 8: You see, the.

2176
01:40:37,893 --> 01:40:41,372
Speaker 13: Quality point is that the dogs that you get from

2177
01:40:41,372 --> 01:40:45,452
Speaker 13: the backyard breeder, they look fluffy and they're wonderful, but

2178
01:40:45,572 --> 01:40:49,052
Speaker 13: they've got all sorts of problems and the vet bills

2179
01:40:49,093 --> 01:40:53,452
Speaker 13: that arise from that are horrendous. And you add to

2180
01:40:53,452 --> 01:40:57,372
Speaker 13: that whether you've got a good bread or a mixed breed,

2181
01:40:57,893 --> 01:41:00,852
Speaker 13: if you feed them rubbish, they are going to wind

2182
01:41:00,933 --> 01:41:05,652
Speaker 13: up with health issues. So an answer to whoever it

2183
01:41:05,772 --> 01:41:08,692
Speaker 13: was that said that the cheapest at the superman market's

2184
01:41:08,732 --> 01:41:12,612
Speaker 13: good enough, No way, that stuff at the supermarket is

2185
01:41:12,812 --> 01:41:16,333
Speaker 13: absolute crap, and that leads the dog to do the

2186
01:41:16,372 --> 01:41:19,892
Speaker 13: same thing. So there are four or five major brands

2187
01:41:19,933 --> 01:41:23,772
Speaker 13: available and they range in price from one sixty to

2188
01:41:23,812 --> 01:41:29,932
Speaker 13: two hundred dollars for a up to a twenty kilo bag.

2189
01:41:30,812 --> 01:41:35,532
Speaker 13: And seriously, mate three kilos at one hundred and sixty,

2190
01:41:36,293 --> 01:41:40,572
Speaker 13: you should It's like feeding yourself caviat and Bravefish and

2191
01:41:41,133 --> 01:41:42,772
Speaker 13: snapper every day of the week.

2192
01:41:43,572 --> 01:41:44,012
Speaker 9: Totally.

2193
01:41:44,253 --> 01:41:46,972
Speaker 5: It's not supermarket stuff, though, Gym this is. This is premium.

2194
01:41:47,093 --> 01:41:50,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the thing. What Gym's really is reiterating

2195
01:41:50,093 --> 01:41:52,012
Speaker 2: my point that this isn't a cost of living crisis,

2196
01:41:52,053 --> 01:41:53,652
Speaker 2: this is a cost of insanity crisis.

2197
01:41:53,772 --> 01:41:55,492
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, do you know what I heard on my

2198
01:41:55,532 --> 01:41:58,093
Speaker 5: cost Schmes show the other day was there's a new

2199
01:41:58,093 --> 01:42:01,572
Speaker 5: industry of pet wine, so ketnip growing catnip in New

2200
01:42:01,692 --> 01:42:03,732
Speaker 5: Zealand that they're going to turn into dog and cat wine.

2201
01:42:03,732 --> 01:42:05,293
Speaker 5: How do you feel about that, Matt, he would you

2202
01:42:05,412 --> 01:42:07,372
Speaker 5: you'd give Colin some dog wine from time to time?

2203
01:42:07,492 --> 01:42:09,333
Speaker 2: No, I would not, I will not. I love my

2204
01:42:09,412 --> 01:42:13,293
Speaker 2: dog Colin more than life itself. But a bit of

2205
01:42:13,372 --> 01:42:17,253
Speaker 2: Jimbos and a few walks and he's fine. As this

2206
01:42:17,692 --> 01:42:20,612
Speaker 2: textas said, it just went down. So many texts coming through,

2207
01:42:21,492 --> 01:42:23,932
Speaker 2: but someone was saying, basically, my dog loved to seventeen.

2208
01:42:24,213 --> 01:42:26,213
Speaker 2: All we did is get him chasing deer every day.

2209
01:42:26,333 --> 01:42:28,772
Speaker 5: Yeah, what about this one? Guys? When I used to

2210
01:42:28,812 --> 01:42:30,732
Speaker 5: be a butcher about twenty five years ago, my boss

2211
01:42:30,732 --> 01:42:34,973
Speaker 5: would put Jimbo's in the premium mints section no complaints,

2212
01:42:34,973 --> 01:42:37,852
Speaker 5: and it was an upmarket area in Auckland. Can you

2213
01:42:37,933 --> 01:42:39,732
Speaker 5: keep your view on O one hundred and eighty ten

2214
01:42:39,893 --> 01:42:42,932
Speaker 5: eighty it is twenty two to four bag very shortly,

2215
01:42:44,213 --> 01:42:44,492
Speaker 5: have a.

2216
01:42:44,572 --> 01:42:48,092
Speaker 1: Chat with the lads on eighty ten eighty. Mad Heathen

2217
01:42:48,213 --> 01:42:50,612
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams afternoons used talk.

2218
01:42:50,492 --> 01:42:53,412
Speaker 5: Said, be very good afternoon. We're talking about the price

2219
01:42:53,532 --> 01:42:56,333
Speaker 5: of pet food. A lot of people are trying to

2220
01:42:56,372 --> 01:42:58,972
Speaker 5: cut down, but there's no doubt about it that pet

2221
01:42:59,013 --> 01:43:03,732
Speaker 5: food can be incredibly expensive, whether it's dog, cat, budgy,

2222
01:43:04,053 --> 01:43:05,812
Speaker 5: whatever your pet may be. I spend one hundred and

2223
01:43:05,853 --> 01:43:08,612
Speaker 5: sixty bucks on my dog Pepper, and people say I'm

2224
01:43:08,612 --> 01:43:09,132
Speaker 5: a lunatic.

2225
01:43:09,333 --> 01:43:10,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, I say you're a lunatic.

2226
01:43:10,652 --> 01:43:13,333
Speaker 5: Yeah you are those people, Olivia.

2227
01:43:13,532 --> 01:43:16,973
Speaker 2: You want to talk about raw feeding, I do so.

2228
01:43:17,133 --> 01:43:21,852
Speaker 24: I'm a dog breeder of nearly thirty years. I'm started

2229
01:43:21,893 --> 01:43:24,812
Speaker 24: out with Griffons, which I'm a Dog News Dogs New

2230
01:43:24,893 --> 01:43:29,772
Speaker 24: Zealand registered breeder of them. And also there are a

2231
01:43:29,812 --> 01:43:34,492
Speaker 24: lot of other reputable registries and stuff around these days.

2232
01:43:35,293 --> 01:43:38,333
Speaker 24: Obviously the Kennel Club don't like to acknowledge that, but

2233
01:43:38,492 --> 01:43:42,452
Speaker 24: there are because there's because we have such a broad

2234
01:43:42,612 --> 01:43:45,532
Speaker 24: range of breeds that are now available in New Zealand

2235
01:43:45,612 --> 01:43:49,333
Speaker 24: and colors and stuff like that that is not just that.

2236
01:43:50,013 --> 01:43:55,013
Speaker 24: But anyway, raw food, I look at dry food as

2237
01:43:55,093 --> 01:44:00,412
Speaker 24: McDonald's for animals, basically because I've been solely raw feeding

2238
01:44:00,532 --> 01:44:03,932
Speaker 24: all of my dogs for nearly twenty years, so we

2239
01:44:04,013 --> 01:44:07,733
Speaker 24: don't have any dry food at all on our at

2240
01:44:07,732 --> 01:44:11,092
Speaker 24: our dogs. Actually, when I go to a different vet

2241
01:44:11,532 --> 01:44:14,053
Speaker 24: and they try and give them a little treat thing,

2242
01:44:14,293 --> 01:44:16,333
Speaker 24: most of the time my dogs turn their nose up

2243
01:44:16,372 --> 01:44:19,732
Speaker 24: because they don't recognize it as food. Because so much

2244
01:44:19,772 --> 01:44:23,732
Speaker 24: of the treats and bits and pieces that people are

2245
01:44:23,732 --> 01:44:25,973
Speaker 24: trying to feed the dogs these days. It's just so

2246
01:44:26,213 --> 01:44:29,532
Speaker 24: processed and it's just not you know, it's not right.

2247
01:44:30,293 --> 01:44:32,652
Speaker 2: How are their teeth though, because I've told you want

2248
01:44:32,692 --> 01:44:33,973
Speaker 2: to put them on the biokies for the good of

2249
01:44:33,973 --> 01:44:35,572
Speaker 2: their teeth, Olivia.

2250
01:44:35,412 --> 01:44:39,652
Speaker 24: You no give them a bone? This is like this

2251
01:44:39,812 --> 01:44:43,013
Speaker 24: is this is this throw a dog a bone. This

2252
01:44:43,133 --> 01:44:45,692
Speaker 24: is what they're meant to be doing. It's it's good

2253
01:44:45,772 --> 01:44:48,652
Speaker 24: for their not only their teeth, but it's good for

2254
01:44:48,732 --> 01:44:53,812
Speaker 24: them their mental stimulation, you know, because half people wonder

2255
01:44:53,853 --> 01:44:56,173
Speaker 24: why they come home and the dog's ripped up the

2256
01:44:56,213 --> 01:44:59,012
Speaker 24: couch or it's done something like that, because it's it's

2257
01:44:59,093 --> 01:45:03,492
Speaker 24: got nothing to do to be a dog. Because when

2258
01:45:03,532 --> 01:45:07,692
Speaker 24: you when you feed them these crap processed diets, how

2259
01:45:07,732 --> 01:45:10,812
Speaker 24: can they be a dog with that? They just consume it?

2260
01:45:10,933 --> 01:45:14,053
Speaker 2: Like would would you take it to the to the

2261
01:45:14,093 --> 01:45:17,972
Speaker 2: final degree of that and release live animals for them

2262
01:45:18,133 --> 01:45:20,893
Speaker 2: to hunt and eat, because that would be them. I

2263
01:45:20,973 --> 01:45:23,333
Speaker 2: thought that would be them fulfilling their full their full

2264
01:45:23,412 --> 01:45:24,572
Speaker 2: genetic potential.

2265
01:45:24,732 --> 01:45:27,093
Speaker 5: But pretty tough for a griffin. The lovely dogs, but

2266
01:45:27,213 --> 01:45:29,412
Speaker 5: you know they're not they're not They're not catching.

2267
01:45:29,173 --> 01:45:33,692
Speaker 2: Much other French bulldofs and you could release.

2268
01:45:35,133 --> 01:45:37,452
Speaker 24: All three of them are certainly not I mean they

2269
01:45:37,452 --> 01:45:41,012
Speaker 24: could take out a rabbits. See, this is the sort

2270
01:45:41,053 --> 01:45:43,412
Speaker 24: of thing that I think about when I think about

2271
01:45:43,452 --> 01:45:45,652
Speaker 24: what am making? What wore food? Am I going to

2272
01:45:45,692 --> 01:45:48,412
Speaker 24: give my dogs? Is I think? Do I want to

2273
01:45:48,412 --> 01:45:49,492
Speaker 24: give them beef?

2274
01:45:49,692 --> 01:45:49,852
Speaker 17: No?

2275
01:45:49,893 --> 01:45:54,613
Speaker 24: I don't because they wouldn't take down a cow in reality,

2276
01:45:54,893 --> 01:45:58,732
Speaker 24: they wouldn't. So I hardly ever feed beef. I don't

2277
01:45:58,812 --> 01:46:03,052
Speaker 24: feed chicken because so much of the chicken has got

2278
01:46:03,253 --> 01:46:05,173
Speaker 24: is just so processed these days.

2279
01:46:05,572 --> 01:46:08,892
Speaker 4: Because beef chicken, what do you feed them?

2280
01:46:09,213 --> 01:46:14,692
Speaker 24: So I feed this amazing blend called carnivoro and it's

2281
01:46:14,973 --> 01:46:21,492
Speaker 24: a rabbit, venison, goat and possum. So they're all wild

2282
01:46:21,652 --> 01:46:25,532
Speaker 24: caught species. So you think about it, They're the why

2283
01:46:25,612 --> 01:46:28,732
Speaker 24: all those bloody tests are going out there eating the

2284
01:46:28,732 --> 01:46:30,972
Speaker 24: best of our native bosh, aren't they. So they're as

2285
01:46:30,973 --> 01:46:35,253
Speaker 24: healthy as anything. And the place I used to work

2286
01:46:35,293 --> 01:46:39,093
Speaker 24: for that that company is I know that he everything

2287
01:46:39,173 --> 01:46:43,093
Speaker 24: is traced, you know, so because he's MPI audited and

2288
01:46:43,173 --> 01:46:44,973
Speaker 24: does the export and all that sort of stuff. So

2289
01:46:45,013 --> 01:46:48,492
Speaker 24: it's it took me probably ten years to find that

2290
01:46:48,572 --> 01:46:51,772
Speaker 24: guy because I used to buy off a couple of

2291
01:46:51,772 --> 01:46:55,013
Speaker 24: the big raw places around Auckland, and it just I

2292
01:46:55,133 --> 01:46:58,372
Speaker 24: had nothing but problems, dogs getting sick, dogs not wanting

2293
01:46:58,412 --> 01:47:02,213
Speaker 24: to eat the food, which unfortunately bat I'm sorry saying,

2294
01:47:02,372 --> 01:47:05,053
Speaker 24: oh no, it's not good for them. No, it's not

2295
01:47:05,492 --> 01:47:07,732
Speaker 24: a yuse. Of course it's good for them, because that's

2296
01:47:07,772 --> 01:47:12,053
Speaker 24: what war than dogs and everything evolved on. But you've

2297
01:47:12,053 --> 01:47:13,933
Speaker 24: got to make sure you buy the right from the

2298
01:47:14,013 --> 01:47:16,852
Speaker 24: right place, just like people. You wouldn't buy out of

2299
01:47:16,893 --> 01:47:19,532
Speaker 24: the back of someone's car. Would you buy a whole

2300
01:47:19,532 --> 01:47:21,933
Speaker 24: lot of chicken or something, and you know, like in

2301
01:47:22,253 --> 01:47:25,412
Speaker 24: a car park, you'd be like, oh, you need it

2302
01:47:25,452 --> 01:47:30,213
Speaker 24: to be really, you know, fresh and bright.

2303
01:47:30,612 --> 01:47:34,053
Speaker 2: Well it's interesting than Olivia appreciate. Yeah, I appreciate your

2304
01:47:34,133 --> 01:47:35,612
Speaker 2: enthusiasm on the issue. I'm not sure if a griffin

2305
01:47:35,612 --> 01:47:38,972
Speaker 2: could take down a goat or a deer. No, but yeah,

2306
01:47:39,812 --> 01:47:41,812
Speaker 2: I wonder if there's anyone out there in New Zealand

2307
01:47:42,532 --> 01:47:46,812
Speaker 2: who feeds their dog on live food so the dog

2308
01:47:46,812 --> 01:47:48,612
Speaker 2: gets to hunt. I mean obviously there is. You know

2309
01:47:48,652 --> 01:47:51,213
Speaker 2: you take you know you got pig dogs, yeah, and

2310
01:47:51,412 --> 01:47:53,772
Speaker 2: you know you've got dogs hunting deer. Oh, hang on

2311
01:47:53,812 --> 01:47:56,133
Speaker 2: a minute, I know someone, but he had to feed

2312
01:47:56,133 --> 01:47:58,213
Speaker 2: them extra because he had as dogs were just they

2313
01:47:58,253 --> 01:48:00,012
Speaker 2: had so many rabbits on their farm that the dog

2314
01:48:00,412 --> 01:48:02,812
Speaker 2: wasn't eating dinner. And they realized the dog was just

2315
01:48:02,893 --> 01:48:07,293
Speaker 2: eating so many rabbits as well. But rabbits are so weak, yeah,

2316
01:48:07,372 --> 01:48:09,492
Speaker 2: and they reproduced some that they're not actually a full

2317
01:48:09,532 --> 01:48:12,732
Speaker 2: diet for a dog. Right, Yeah, your dog kind of

2318
01:48:12,732 --> 01:48:15,453
Speaker 2: gets the sort of type of malnutrition from just eating.

2319
01:48:15,293 --> 01:48:18,013
Speaker 5: And so they're just thinking rabbits. Rabbit carcasses lining over

2320
01:48:18,013 --> 01:48:18,933
Speaker 5: their property.

2321
01:48:18,572 --> 01:48:21,852
Speaker 2: Oh so many. But you know, luckily that unluckily they've

2322
01:48:21,853 --> 01:48:24,532
Speaker 2: got a huge supply. I feel it it's cheaper per

2323
01:48:24,652 --> 01:48:28,492
Speaker 2: kg than the dog food you're feeding. Pepper Tyler says

2324
01:48:28,492 --> 01:48:28,972
Speaker 2: this texture.

2325
01:48:29,053 --> 01:48:31,213
Speaker 5: I reckon that might be true because I know the

2326
01:48:31,612 --> 01:48:34,213
Speaker 5: raw treats we feed are six ninety nine for one

2327
01:48:34,293 --> 01:48:35,092
Speaker 5: hundred grams.

2328
01:48:35,492 --> 01:48:38,693
Speaker 2: Wow, Nick, your thoughts.

2329
01:48:39,572 --> 01:48:43,852
Speaker 25: Yeah, good afternoon. Yeah, so my thoughts are kind of

2330
01:48:43,853 --> 01:48:47,213
Speaker 25: back to twenty your previous callers. To start with, you're talking

2331
01:48:47,213 --> 01:48:50,572
Speaker 25: about the main brands on the market, and I have

2332
01:48:50,652 --> 01:48:54,093
Speaker 25: to agree. Go and read the back of your feedback

2333
01:48:54,372 --> 01:48:56,972
Speaker 25: and you'll find a lot of those main brands are

2334
01:48:57,013 --> 01:49:01,972
Speaker 25: made up of filler, right, flowers and wheats and things

2335
01:49:01,973 --> 01:49:04,532
Speaker 25: that dogs don't normally eat and don't need. And they're

2336
01:49:04,572 --> 01:49:07,053
Speaker 25: just there to bolt the product up, product up and

2337
01:49:07,093 --> 01:49:11,253
Speaker 25: make you need to use more. I started my dog

2338
01:49:11,333 --> 01:49:13,412
Speaker 25: on the name brand once, and I was going through

2339
01:49:13,452 --> 01:49:15,852
Speaker 25: one hundred and fifty dollars bag every couple of weeks.

2340
01:49:15,853 --> 01:49:19,652
Speaker 25: He's a big boy. He's a hunt away. And I

2341
01:49:19,772 --> 01:49:22,213
Speaker 25: switched to a brand that I can only get at

2342
01:49:22,213 --> 01:49:24,572
Speaker 25: my vet and it cost me one hundred and twenty

2343
01:49:24,612 --> 01:49:26,772
Speaker 25: bucks and he gets three cups of it a day

2344
01:49:28,452 --> 01:49:31,372
Speaker 25: and that's it, and it lasts me just about a month.

2345
01:49:31,652 --> 01:49:33,812
Speaker 25: I can get out of it. I do live on

2346
01:49:33,853 --> 01:49:35,812
Speaker 25: a farm, so I can stretch it with some home

2347
01:49:35,893 --> 01:49:38,532
Speaker 25: kill or whatever if I have to, if I can't

2348
01:49:38,572 --> 01:49:41,093
Speaker 25: get into the vets on the right day. But and

2349
01:49:41,173 --> 01:49:43,293
Speaker 25: he is as healthy as anything. The vets have always

2350
01:49:43,293 --> 01:49:45,412
Speaker 25: been very impressed when I take him and he's about

2351
01:49:45,412 --> 01:49:47,692
Speaker 25: thirty six and a half kilo's at the moment, and

2352
01:49:47,772 --> 01:49:50,213
Speaker 25: is that and he's dead. He's just a big boy.

2353
01:49:50,532 --> 01:49:51,412
Speaker 5: Is that kibble?

2354
01:49:51,492 --> 01:49:51,652
Speaker 6: Is it?

2355
01:49:51,652 --> 01:49:53,213
Speaker 5: Obviously it's good quality kibble.

2356
01:49:54,412 --> 01:49:58,693
Speaker 25: Yeah it's biscuits, but yeah it's kibble. But it's basically

2357
01:49:58,933 --> 01:50:01,492
Speaker 25: only the good stuff there is minimal filler in it,

2358
01:50:01,772 --> 01:50:03,692
Speaker 25: and that's why you need to use so much less

2359
01:50:03,692 --> 01:50:03,932
Speaker 25: of it.

2360
01:50:04,293 --> 01:50:07,532
Speaker 5: Right, Very interesting, Nick, thank you, thank you very much.

2361
01:50:08,452 --> 01:50:10,293
Speaker 5: Tea of tips coming through.

2362
01:50:10,253 --> 01:50:12,692
Speaker 2: My thoughts on this issue. Tyler, give yourself an uppercut.

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Speaker 2: I beg that. Yeah, I support that. I wish we

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Speaker 2: had a taste. Got to get a studio taste, so

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Speaker 2: we do need a studio days.

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Speaker 5: There's one, says guys, just a point. Dog and cat

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Speaker 5: food are labeled not intended for human consumption, not for humans.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, but hanging on minute,

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Speaker 5: I talked about that, and pet foods are tested for

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Speaker 5: salmonella and other bacterial contaminants just the same. If they've

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Speaker 5: found there, recalled just like human foods. Dogs are nutrient

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Speaker 5: requirements of fairly similar to humans. Yeah, as the worth omnivores.

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Speaker 2: So you know, in times of poverty, get stuck into

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Speaker 2: the dog foodwet exactly.

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Speaker 5: Oh fantastic, Paul, you are a canine nutritionist.

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Speaker 17: Finally, Yeah, I'm actually dogged dog, so I specialize and nutrients.

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Speaker 17: So I tell you of what dogs are actually consuming

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Speaker 17: and the biological effects that it happens to. Well, that

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Speaker 17: happens to the in that process.

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Speaker 5: Fantastic, right, We got some questions for you, Paul, So

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Speaker 5: let's start with raw diet. Is raw diet just a fad,

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Speaker 5: Is it actually good for a dog or is there

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Speaker 5: something to it?

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Speaker 17: I get this all the time at seminars as well.

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Speaker 17: People always pipe up and say, look, you know dogs

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01:51:24,692 --> 01:51:27,372
Speaker 17: only ate raw in the wild. They actually did, right,

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Speaker 17: because obviously there's no biscuit manufacturers back then. But the

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Speaker 17: problem is is a lot of them ended up with DCM,

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Speaker 17: which is cardium monopathy. Now, when you have a high

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01:51:38,213 --> 01:51:42,013
Speaker 17: meat diet, your hemoglobin goes up and it's just as

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Speaker 17: bad for humans as it is for dogs. So there's

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Speaker 17: things like niosin folate, manganese soft top of my head,

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01:51:50,412 --> 01:51:54,492
Speaker 17: panthetic acid touring. All of these nutrients, vitamins and minerals

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01:51:54,532 --> 01:51:58,972
Speaker 17: are imperative to the dog's health and operation. So having

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Speaker 17: just a raw food diet, your dog is not getting

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01:52:01,933 --> 01:52:05,293
Speaker 17: any fiber to exfoliate the bowel passage. And in New

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01:52:05,372 --> 01:52:09,692
Speaker 17: Zealand there has been a massive increase and cancer and dogs,

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Speaker 17: not just bowel cancer but in general cancer in general. Yeah,

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Speaker 17: and the alpha dog back in the day he lived

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Speaker 17: almost twice as long as his female companions. I won't

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01:52:25,133 --> 01:52:30,893
Speaker 17: use the B word because he was the smart one.

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01:52:30,492 --> 01:52:32,932
Speaker 17: He went in through the stomach because it was softer,

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01:52:33,053 --> 01:52:35,572
Speaker 17: it was easier to get in. He had the offal,

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01:52:35,732 --> 01:52:39,253
Speaker 17: the kidney deliver the pancreas, the heart and as well

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01:52:39,293 --> 01:52:42,652
Speaker 17: the stomach contents would which had all the grains. Now,

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01:52:42,692 --> 01:52:45,972
Speaker 17: this grain free thing is a bit of a fad.

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01:52:47,612 --> 01:52:50,852
Speaker 17: There are bad grains in dogs dog food, and a

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01:52:50,853 --> 01:52:54,652
Speaker 17: lot of manufacturers do put fillers in. Now I heard

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Speaker 17: the guy before saying it has minimal fillers. You don't

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Speaker 17: need any fillers. Like I produce a brand of dog

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01:53:03,133 --> 01:53:06,973
Speaker 17: food called Doctor Dog and it is it is certified

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Speaker 17: by Massive University. So how's that?

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Speaker 5: Pretty good? I think I don't know much about what

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01:53:12,253 --> 01:53:14,492
Speaker 5: Matthew University. It doesn't need to it, but it sounds good.

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Speaker 2: Sounds good?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, well from the professor of canine science Foreland.

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01:53:21,053 --> 01:53:21,492
Speaker 2: Pretty good?

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Speaker 6: Then? Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean it is confusing, isn't it, Paul. We're almost

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Speaker 5: out of time, But it just seems to me there's

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01:53:25,933 --> 01:53:28,452
Speaker 5: a lot of confusing information out there and it seems

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Speaker 5: like it doesn't need to be.

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Speaker 17: Look if your dog biscuits can go in a bag

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Speaker 17: for four years.

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Speaker 4: That's where the problem starts.

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Speaker 2: Ah, I love that. Thanks for that, Paul. We ran

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Speaker 2: out of time, but it was very very informative. Right

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Speaker 2: at the India.

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Speaker 5: Ye, canine nutrition is fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Right just before if you're still there, Paul, what about

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01:53:47,532 --> 01:53:52,412
Speaker 2: what about releasing live animals for the dogs?

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Speaker 17: Well, you know that's that as soon as you're heum

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01:53:56,133 --> 01:53:58,972
Speaker 17: globin goes up and the dog, the dog stops producing

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01:53:59,053 --> 01:54:00,612
Speaker 17: red and white blood cells, which is.

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Speaker 2: What just as just as part of it for their

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Speaker 2: mental health. Would would that make them happier?

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Speaker 17: Listen, there's been too much transition between wild dogs and

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Speaker 17: domestic dogs. You don't want dogs hunting because where does

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01:54:13,053 --> 01:54:15,013
Speaker 17: the dog loan to draw the line there?

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Speaker 2: You go all right there, unless they're a big dog, yeah,

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01:54:17,372 --> 01:54:18,852
Speaker 2: or you know, just a general hunting dog.

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