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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather duper c Ellen drive with One New Zealand

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Speaker 2: to coverage like no one else.

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Speaker 1: News Talks Heavy.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show. Coming up today, Fonterra's boss on

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Speaker 4: the sale of the Consumer Business Act. MP Todd Stevenson

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Speaker 4: on his Select Committee delivering that banking inquiry report. Our

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Speaker 4: mate and Ozzie Oliver Peterson on the new childcare rules,

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Speaker 4: the Rugby Boss on the new deal with Sky, and

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Speaker 4: the Skyboss on the new deal with the Rugby Boss.

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Speaker 1: Heather duper Cy Ellen.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you're not sure that Fonterra's made the right

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Speaker 4: call in selling off its brands like Mainland or Anchor,

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Speaker 4: just have a look at what the share price has

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Speaker 4: done today, up twenty percent from about five dollars a

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Speaker 4: share to about six dollars a share. And the last

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Speaker 4: time the shares was this high was early to twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 4: so you have to go back about seven and a

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Speaker 4: half years. If you look at the graph of the

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Speaker 4: share price over the last thirteen years, the full time

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Speaker 4: it's been listed today as a spike that goes directly

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Speaker 4: up because it's a good deal. Three point eight billion

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Speaker 4: dollars is way above what the market was predicting at

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Speaker 4: about two to three billion dollars. What this means, apparently

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Speaker 4: for the average dairy farmer is at least if you're

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Speaker 4: on the white cuttle, a dairy farmer there will end

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Speaker 4: up with about four hundred thousand dollars as a result

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Speaker 4: of the sale. I would say on the strength that

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Speaker 4: Fonterra will absolutely be getting the farmer approval that they're

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Speaker 4: hoping for now. One of the criticisms of the steel

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Speaker 4: in the past has been the value added part of it.

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Speaker 4: We've been told for the longest time in this country

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Speaker 4: that we need to stop selling low value products to

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Speaker 4: the world. We need to start adding value. That is

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Speaker 4: the future of the New Zealand economy, and this deal

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Speaker 4: has been criticized for doing the opposite. But as someone

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Speaker 4: much smarter than me set today, chopping up a big

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Speaker 4: block of butter into smaller blocks of butter and then

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Speaker 4: putting a wrapper around them is not adding value. Butter

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Speaker 4: is not a value added product. Butter is a commodity.

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Speaker 4: What is value added is all the other stuff that

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Speaker 4: Fonterra does. It's stuff like pulling proteins, out of milk

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Speaker 4: and adding those proteins that concentrates to sports food or

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Speaker 4: medical foods or sports drinks or whatever, and then selling

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Speaker 4: that stuff to rich customers and developed countries. Now, Fonterra

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Speaker 4: his plan is to sell off the butter stuff, which

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Speaker 4: is actually very low margin and quite complex, and then

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Speaker 4: put their energy into the actual value added part of

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Speaker 4: the business.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: I can't argue with that, can you? And as for

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Speaker 4: Miles Hurrele, I mean, he was the guy everyone was

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Speaker 4: celebrating for turning around Fonterra's fortunes before the steal. Imagine

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Speaker 4: what they're going to be saying about him now. It's

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Speaker 4: not only Fonterra stocks that have shot up today.

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Speaker 1: I'd say heither do for clan Well Nine New Night.

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Speaker 4: Too is the text number standard Texav's apply Myles Hurrel

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Speaker 4: with us after five. Now New Zealand's emergency services have

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Speaker 4: just been given a little bit of a tech upgrade.

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Speaker 4: Police and ambulance will soon be able to track the

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Speaker 4: phone location of someone who hasn't called one one one themselves,

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Speaker 4: but only if there are grave concerns for their safety

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Speaker 4: or other safety. Mark Mitchell is the Police Minister. Hamitch

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Speaker 4: Hi Heather, Okay, So what would have what would have

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Speaker 4: to be going on for you to track me?

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Speaker 6: Well, a good example would be if you else, if

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Speaker 6: you just disappeared, no one knew we, we hadn't been

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Speaker 6: in contact with anyone, your bank accounts hadn't been touched,

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Speaker 7: We are really concerned if your welfare.

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Speaker 6: Now the police with the new device location information can

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Speaker 6: within minutes find out where your phone last was and

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Speaker 6: narrow down a search area much quicker.

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Speaker 7: So make sure you're safe and get your.

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Speaker 4: Own Would that be through triangulation or would that be

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Speaker 4: something else?

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Speaker 6: Look, that's probably technical for me, but they use what

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Speaker 6: it'll do. It will ping off the nearest phone tower.

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Speaker 6: And the good thing about the great thing about this

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Speaker 6: and the reason why it's world leading, is that we've

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Speaker 6: because they have all come together and in fact they've

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Speaker 6: as well. And this tool will be extremely good in

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Speaker 4: So why can't you do this already? Because I was

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Speaker 4: just under the impression that if I went missing in

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Speaker 7: But no, Well it's the way that you do it.

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Speaker 6: Before this happened was antiquated. It took time and meant

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Speaker 6: dealing individually with the telcos.

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Speaker 7: So this will be much faster.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so this is just about streamlining. So what would

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Speaker 4: you have to do beforehand? Would you have to go

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Speaker 4: and ask them for permission to do it or something

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Speaker 4: like well, like yes.

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Speaker 6: You would, yeah, yes, absolutely, and you know and of

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Speaker 6: course you've got all three taelcos working together, so the

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Speaker 6: whole network is available, which means that it doesn't matter

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Speaker 6: where you are in the country or what cell tower

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Speaker 6: you're close to. Under this device location information, the police

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Speaker 6: will be able to get the information back real time

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Speaker 6: and then pass that on to other emergency services which

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Speaker 6: include you know, Saint John's Fends Police obviously and also

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Speaker 4: Does this mean that the police have now got the

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Speaker 4: ability to actually access this information themselves rather than having

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Speaker 4: to ask.

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Speaker 7: For it, Yes, they can.

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Speaker 6: They can actually set information straight away, and there's obviously

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Speaker 6: compliant with the Telecommunications Information Privacy Code under the Act.

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Speaker 6: But it means real time that we've got, for example,

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Speaker 6: local computity community facebook pages. The police are out there

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Speaker 6: doing their stuff. We're trying to find them. But with this,

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Speaker 6: you know, with the capability they've got now, they'll be

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Speaker 4: Okay, So what about concerns that this may lead to

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Speaker 6: Well, at the end of the day, it's going to

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Speaker 7: One fifth of those are.

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Speaker 6: Family members or friends that are concerned for the welfare

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Speaker 1: Or friend.

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Speaker 6: So it's quite this happens quite a lot. The information

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Speaker 6: It is not publicly available. It just que It quite

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Speaker 4: Okay, now, Mitch, have you caught up on the fact

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Speaker 4: that Sports New Zealand advised you guys against repealing the

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Speaker 4: transgender guidelines.

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Speaker 6: Well, I I received advice from them. We had a

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: Can you explaining to me why Penny Henn at eight

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Speaker 4: wants to repeal the gang patch ban?

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Speaker 7: Oh, because they hate it.

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Speaker 6: Labour didn't support it when we took that legislation through

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Speaker 4: Much I don't understand this. Why are they so keen

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Speaker 6: Guys because they want them because the gangs are putting

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Speaker 6: like it's their freedom to express themselves by wearing gang

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Speaker 7: And scare people.

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Speaker 6: I had some figure here that I had some feedback

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Speaker 6: not having the gang patches means that our staff and

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Speaker 6: Number Two, it has completely de escalated the behavior of

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Speaker 4: Thanks Mitch, appreciated Mark Mitchell, police minister and also Sports

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Speaker 4: Minister and also interested in the gang thing. So what's

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Speaker 4: it was that he was happy to and was going

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Speaker 4: it's mine and he's not backing down at all. He

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Speaker 4: Barry Sopa is going to be with us and explain it.

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Speaker 4: Here the mynee went missing four years ago and police

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Speaker 4: Jason Pine Weekend Sport hosters with me, Hello Poney, Hello Heather. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so what do you make of the squad?

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Speaker 1: They'd be Heather.

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Speaker 4: Kudos to him though for doing it is I don't

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Speaker 4: Okay, do you know what?

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Speaker 4: This crack was for one second? Gode as Now, Okay,

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Speaker 12: To offer them a state as Tory war terrorism. As

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Speaker 4: Big disappointment for people who watch Netflix and now really

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Speaker 4: And finally, a book that's been overde for eighty two

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Speaker 2: International correspondence with ENS and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 11: Happy Friday to you and everybody across New Zeala.

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Speaker 4: Mate you two, So what's it been up to in jail?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well exactly right. I mean, this is thirty six

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Speaker 11: that really rocked Beverly Hills, it rocked Los Angeles, it

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Speaker 11: their father had sexually abused them, had assaulted them, that

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Speaker 11: this had come out in the second trial, it had

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Speaker 11: come out in later documentaries.

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Speaker 14: It wasn't believed by the jury.

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Speaker 11: In the first instance. And they became this great, big

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Speaker 11: push a couple of years ago after the Netflix series

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Speaker 11: and other series became so incredibly popular. But now you've

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Speaker 11: got this situation where Eric Menendez now can't apply for

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Speaker 11: parole for another three years, and Lyman Ndez, if your

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Speaker 11: Lyman end is tonight going to sleep in your San

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Speaker 11: Diego correctional facility. You're thinking, well, while they even bother

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Speaker 11: turning up to the come to the parole board hearing tomorrow,

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Speaker 11: because if my brother's capt that whack, then I'm likely

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Speaker 11: to get the same thing because they're essentially accused of

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Speaker 11: the same crime.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there will be many Netflix viewers who are incredibly disappointed,

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Speaker 4: like some members of our team today. Now, Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: you know this is the how do you say this

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Speaker 4: without being impolite? This is the This is when you

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Speaker 4: turn murderers into some sort of pop culture status symbols.

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Speaker 4: I suppose you could say, you just kind of lose

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Speaker 4: your bearings on things, don't you.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, And they became political prawns too, because essentially what

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Speaker 11: you had was a district attorney fight, which they are

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Speaker 11: elected individuals here in the United States of America. You

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Speaker 11: had a Democrat arguing that because of the popularity, largely

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Speaker 11: of the Netflix series, he was an unpopular district attorney,

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Speaker 11: he decided he would release them or move to release them.

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Speaker 11: Then you had a Republican district attorney. He was coming

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Speaker 11: out and saying, no, that's not right. They killed their parents,

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Speaker 11: they should stay in prison. So it became a hugely

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Speaker 11: political issue, and it was a political issue that voters

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Speaker 11: sided with Republicans onah on this very issue. So look, essentially,

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Speaker 11: this has been a massive public fight from Eric and

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Speaker 11: Laha Menendez, from their family members, from their supporters, from

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Speaker 11: their celebrity attorneys, to the point now where you look

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Speaker 11: at it the case now and you're going, well, it's

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Speaker 11: going to be another three years before they're eving up

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Speaker 11: for parole, even though they got that reduced sentencing from

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Speaker 11: life to fifty years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jonathan is really quickly tell me what's going on

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Speaker 4: with this half a billion dollar penalty that Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: now doesn't have to pay. You'll be having a good day, Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I mean he's essentially said, it's a great day for America.

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Speaker 11: He took to Trut's ohan not long after this judgment

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Speaker 11: came out. It really was kind of a slit judgment

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Speaker 11: in one sense, but this was a financial penalty that

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Speaker 11: was imposed on the Trump organization by New York court

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Speaker 11: last year after they were accused of essentially inflating their

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Speaker 11: own value. Now what you've had is an appeals court

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Speaker 11: to come back today and essentially say, look, what Donald

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Speaker 11: Trump is not going to have to do is to

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Speaker 11: pay that money. However, there is a split decision on

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Speaker 11: whether there is actually sort of criminality involved. There are

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Speaker 11: some judges on this appeals court who have said yes,

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Speaker 11: there is corruption involved. So it's not the end of

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Speaker 11: the road. I mean, Donald Trump is not going to

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Speaker 11: have to pay the half a billion dollars. So it's

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Speaker 11: a massive financial win for his organization and ultimately for

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Speaker 11: his legacy. But this will be dragged out. There's going

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Speaker 11: to be other appeals court processes. This appeals court that

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Speaker 11: decided on.

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Speaker 14: This today is really just a sort of medium interim

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Speaker 14: mid range appeals court. It goes to another appellate court

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Speaker 14: they are looking at trying to throw at the entire

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Speaker 14: conviction against him. The judges today said, look, that is unlikely.

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Speaker 14: They essentially still stand by the ruling. What they are

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Speaker 14: essentially saying, though, is that he should not have to

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Speaker 14: pay the penalty. The organization should not have to pay

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Speaker 14: the penalty. But here you have this fascinating situation where

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Speaker 14: you have a president of the United States of America

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Speaker 14: who has been handed this huge financial penalty over this issue.

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Speaker 14: And you've got to remember, too, he still has his

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Speaker 14: criminal conviction in New York over the Stormy Daniel's case

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Speaker 14: that still remains in the appeals process if you like.

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Speaker 14: So you've got this extraordinary situation America has not been

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Speaker 14: in before where a sitting president of the United States

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Speaker 14: of America has huge civil cases and criminal cases against him.

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Speaker 14: And now there is very much plenty of attention on

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Speaker 14: the appeals process from here. But at least today he's

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Speaker 14: celebrating some sort of a financial win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jonathan, always good to talk to you. Thank you

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Speaker 4: so much. But Jonathan Cursley are US correspondent seventeen away

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Speaker 4: from five? Ever do for c Ellen out out defo

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Speaker 4: out out out hither out the subway out out I

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Speaker 4: don't even know what that means. Hither I jumped out

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Speaker 4: of my seat and shock of that hideous noise out

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Speaker 4: hither out that screech has got to go out, out

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Speaker 4: out out, awful out hate the bloody music out out? Ants?

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Speaker 4: Do you get the message?

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Speaker 9: Hanging on Heather?

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Speaker 7: Interesting?

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Speaker 15: Look this one hither number one in the world. EJ

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Speaker 15: who sings it? Not a I recorded the chorus in

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Speaker 15: the bridge while she was on holiday and Kyoto staying

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Speaker 15: in a quiet neighborhood. She said she had her headphones

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Speaker 15: on recorded that, so section took her headphones off and

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Speaker 15: her notes.

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Speaker 4: So there are some fans, ants, ants, what proportion of

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Speaker 4: the text do you read?

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Speaker 7: You know what?

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Speaker 15: I'm happy to be reasonable. There are eight other songs

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Speaker 15: from that musical that are in the top ten, so

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Speaker 15: I'll just switch to one.

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Speaker 4: And they were also sung by by Sheep Well.

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Speaker 15: To be honest, I thought you were going to like

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Speaker 15: them less. But since you've don't.

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Speaker 4: Not a fan of this one know there's something about

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Speaker 4: that song that is just offensive to the human spirit

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Speaker 4: and I cannot explain it, but if time I hear it.

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Speaker 15: I just checked the charts for this week number one.

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Speaker 16: Again.

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Speaker 17: Very well done, people, I think this is This is

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Speaker 17: a point where you step in and you talk to

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Speaker 17: your children about what they're listening to, because that's not

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Speaker 17: going to that's got to be bad for the brains.

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Speaker 4: But hey, answer, you promised me. It's out now, ah out,

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Speaker 4: let's come on now.

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Speaker 15: So long as the boss agrees with you, I am the.

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Speaker 4: Boss will be. I've just designated myself boss. It's out.

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Speaker 4: Thank you everyone for coming in with me on this one.

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Speaker 4: Barri Soapers next quarter.

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Speaker 2: To politics with centric credit, check your customers and get

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Speaker 2: payment certainty.

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Speaker 4: Barrier, senior political correspondence with us. Hey, Barry, good afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Who so is BB? Angry with us as well?

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Speaker 9: Who's BB?

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Speaker 4: Who Barry? Everybody calls him be.

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Speaker 5: I've never heard him called before.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not us thing, Lord, I would not be giving.

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Speaker 9: Credible, isn't it?

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Speaker 5: Because who seems to have been around forever? And in

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Speaker 5: fact he came first came and to offer as the

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Speaker 5: youngest Israeli prime minister in nineteen ninety six, so next year,

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Speaker 5: thirty years ago. Quite incredible. But look he's name check

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Speaker 5: New Zealand as a Western country whose leaders are he said,

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Speaker 5: buckling under the pressure to recognize the Palestinian state, Well,

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Speaker 5: New Zealand hasn't done it yet. For his information, he

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Speaker 5: singled out. He said, for shame, they were shameful Western

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Speaker 5: leaders in Britain, France and Canada, and then he added

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Speaker 5: New Zealand, well, those other three have and we were

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Speaker 5: looking at it and we probably will do I would

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Speaker 5: imagine at the General Assembly in New York next month

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Speaker 5: clearing Gaza cety. Interestingly, the decision that they've made, it's

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Speaker 5: a war crime in itself. If they flattened Garza said.

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Speaker 5: He they cut off water supply, they cut off food supply.

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Speaker 5: That is literally under the UN Convention of war crime.

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Speaker 5: So you know he should be reflecting on that not

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Speaker 5: but he reflects on very much, I might say. And Yaho,

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Speaker 5: of course, is unrepentant about what's happening in Gaza City

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Speaker 5: and in a podcast said if they wanted to carry

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Speaker 5: out genocide, they could have.

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Speaker 9: Done it in an afternoon. Even to mention the.

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Speaker 5: Word genocide I find absolutely incredible. The Israeli leader used

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Speaker 5: Australia as an example of what the Aussies would do

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Speaker 5: in the same circumstances, but he denies people are being

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Speaker 5: deliberately starved.

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Speaker 12: Two million people are now getting access to humanitarian aids.

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Speaker 12: But I'll tell you who is it. The only ones

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Speaker 12: that are being deliberately starved in Gaza are our hostages.

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Speaker 12: If they're right next to Melbourne or right next to Sydney,

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Speaker 12: you had this horrific attacks, and I think you would

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Speaker 12: do it at least what we're doing, probably maybe not

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Speaker 12: as efficiently and as as precisely as we're doing it.

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Speaker 5: It's incredible, isn't it. There's sort of no remorse there

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Speaker 5: at all. I find the whole situation as you do,

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Speaker 5: I know, and I find it just so disturbing that

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Speaker 5: the world can come to this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally on a brighton note, good day to be

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Speaker 4: a dairy farmer is in right, It's a.

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Speaker 5: Totally good day to be a dairy farmer. And you

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Speaker 5: know Fonterra three point eight four five billion dollars massive

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Speaker 5: amount of money. I did my sons, and I know

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Speaker 5: you know that I'm good at sums. Here there are

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Speaker 5: eight thousand shareholder dairy farmers and Fonterra, and if you

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Speaker 5: divvy that up, which of course you wouldn't do because

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Speaker 5: some own more than others, you get four hundred thousand

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Speaker 5: dollars apiece for each dairy farmer, and the shares are

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Speaker 5: allocated on the basis of the amount of milk solids

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Speaker 5: that they supply each season. So there'll be some that

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Speaker 5: will be getting a massive windfall from this. And the

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Speaker 5: prime ministers are right behind the Fonterra sale obviously, he

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Speaker 5: says that the money will at least be spent in

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Speaker 5: this country.

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Speaker 18: Fonterra's strategy is about business to business. Many of us

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Speaker 18: have been off overseas and we've seen the work that

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Speaker 18: they do selling their products as products are and to

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Speaker 18: say Korean bakers, it's a much larger market than trying

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Speaker 18: to sell consumer branded goods. That's going to a very

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Speaker 18: good purchaser of the business, and importantly, that money now

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Speaker 18: gets returned back to the farming community. It's a three

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Speaker 18: point eight billion dollar sale. Three point two billion dollars

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Speaker 18: of it goes back to the farmers shareholders themselves. That

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Speaker 18: is money that goes back into the local economies that

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Speaker 18: then gets to be spent in those economies and that

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Speaker 18: has a big flow and effect within the economy as well,

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Speaker 18: in good stimulus in the economy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's great, and when you look they've

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Speaker 5: got a long term. Part of this is a long

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Speaker 5: term agreement with Lactylus, which is the French company to

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Speaker 5: sell milk and ingredients to them, So you know we'll

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Speaker 5: be selling our produce to them, so branding doesn't matter

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Speaker 5: that much. I think the fact that we're going to

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Speaker 5: be able for many years to come sell product in

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Speaker 5: is a good thing.

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Speaker 4: Hey, very quickly, because I don't have a lot of time.

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Speaker 4: But Todd mcclays he got anywhere with his meetings, Well.

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Speaker 9: No he hasn't.

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Speaker 5: He pointed out to them that look, we impose zero

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Speaker 5: point three percent at tariff's on American goods coming into

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Speaker 5: this country. Well that will neither go here nor there

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Speaker 5: as far as they're concerned. But he met with Ambassador,

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Speaker 5: the Secretary of Agriculture Brook Roland, and the trade representative

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Speaker 5: Jamison Greer. They are having more meetings later and Sully well,

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Speaker 5: but those scheduled to have meetings anyway at APEC and

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Speaker 5: these stags of summit places like that. But I think

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Speaker 5: we're going to have to live with that fifteen percent

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Speaker 5: regardless of whether we're spending money in the UK.

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Speaker 4: Stone now, Barry, thanks very much, Barry so for senior

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Speaker 4: political correspondent. We'll read the political week that was just

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Speaker 4: after six o'clock. It's seven away from five.

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Speaker 2: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast, so's.

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Speaker 19: The wonderful world of the Central Bank and their view

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Speaker 19: of where we're asked? Christian Hartsby, Acting Reserve Bank Governor's.

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Speaker 3: Back with us.

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Speaker 1: That's really been the economy stalling over this Q two

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Speaker 1: that's revised down, and that's what we're responding to.

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Speaker 20: The Q two.

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Speaker 19: A lot of people saw it coming and were yelling

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Speaker 19: and you didn't. How come you didn't see it? Well,

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Speaker 19: we saw some of that come through in the early

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Speaker 19: phase and we indicated that there was some signs.

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Speaker 1: The essence then there's been even more signed till.

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Speaker 10: We've got more confidence that we can lower rate and

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Speaker 10: we can lower them very quite great to hear.

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Speaker 19: But you should have done that already.

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Speaker 3: We just look forward from where we are is all

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Speaker 3: we can do.

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Speaker 19: We played a board in front of us back Monday

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Speaker 19: from six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Maybe's real

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Speaker 19: Estate Newstalk z B and.

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Speaker 4: I've got a question for you text Heather. Since no

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Speaker 4: one buys a record as such. These days, how do

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Speaker 4: you become number one number of downloads?

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Speaker 15: I think we could get someone from a record of

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Speaker 15: music and z on if you really want an interview

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Speaker 15: on this. As I understand it, they look at the

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Speaker 15: number of streams, but if people have bought the physical

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Speaker 15: CD or a download or something like that, that counts

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Speaker 15: for that counts as a greater waiting than just streaming

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Speaker 15: it because someone who owns a city is going to

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Speaker 15: listen to it multiple times. They have they have this

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Speaker 15: weird algorithm.

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Speaker 4: So there's a magic algorithm that is happening that determines

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Speaker 4: what the number one is and we're not sure what

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Speaker 4: it is, and I'm starting to feel like this is

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Speaker 4: a conspiracy.

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Speaker 15: Well, so the thing is if lots You're right, and

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Speaker 15: that lots of kids like the song, So if they

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Speaker 15: have all day to just listen to it over and

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Speaker 15: over and over again, that could be part of why.

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Speaker 15: But I have spoken to a lot of parents since

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Speaker 15: we're talking about this. I've spoken to a lot of

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Speaker 15: parents whose kids are obsessed with this movie and when

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Speaker 15: they watch the movie over their kids shoulders, like one

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Speaker 15: of them said that they now have a favorite song,

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Speaker 15: like they're like the movie was actually that good that

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Speaker 15: they got to the point.

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Speaker 4: What called it demon Hunters? Is that the one? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the ke Pop demon hunt Well, this does happen to

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Speaker 4: parents because, as it turns out, my favorite poor Patrol

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Speaker 4: character is Rubble. So who I know?

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Speaker 15: I think ever personally I just.

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Speaker 4: Do want to know. Well, yeah, own minor character, minor character,

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Speaker 4: give it. Yeah, but Chase is annoying because he's too much.

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Speaker 4: Gese's annoying, like go and be the head boy if

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Speaker 4: you want to. And Marshall is so crap at his job.

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Speaker 4: It's Rubble every day anyway. Myles Harrell Fonterra Ceo with

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Speaker 4: us next, and then let's talk about the banking report

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Speaker 4: which has come out from a select committee. We've waited

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Speaker 4: fourteen months for it and Ierican farmers will be stoked.

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Speaker 4: But Propbling no one else really stand by news Dogs,

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Speaker 4: they'd been.

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Speaker 2: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 2: get the answers, find a fag sack and give the analysis.

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Speaker 2: Here the duplicl and drive with one New Zealand and

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Speaker 2: the power of satellite mobile news Dogs.

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Speaker 4: They'd be good afternoon. Fontira has agreed to one off

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Speaker 4: if not the biggest sale in the country's history. French

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Speaker 4: food group Lacdalise has agreed to pay three point eight

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Speaker 4: four five billion dollars for the consumer business, including brands

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Speaker 4: like Anchor and mainland Fonterra. Share price is shot up

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Speaker 4: nearly twenty percent today. Chief executive is Miles Harrel. High

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Speaker 4: Miles afternoon, So when did you guys wrap up the deal?

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Speaker 21: Very early as this morning. It's been a long, long

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Speaker 21: couple of days for the team. But you're great, great

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Speaker 21: to put pen to paper earlier hour this morning here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, were you pleased to hear it when you when

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Speaker 4: you heard the final number?

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Speaker 14: Yes, we were.

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Speaker 21: I mean we've been, as I say, working some long

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Speaker 21: days to get to this point. There's always a lot,

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Speaker 21: a lot of detail behind the number itself. But now

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Speaker 21: really please, and of course please it to go to

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Speaker 21: a company like lack to Lease that have a strong presence,

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Speaker 21: global presence that we can work collectively with.

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Speaker 4: Do you reckon the farmers are going to sign off

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Speaker 4: on it?

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Speaker 21: Well, I mean, ultimately it's their call, but but I

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Speaker 21: think you know it's a number that you know above

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Speaker 21: the expectations, as you say, and the fact that we've

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Speaker 21: already announced that we'll go out with a two dollars

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Speaker 21: capital return to our farmers. I think those things will

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Speaker 21: will help. I mean there's a lot, a lot of

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Speaker 21: emotional connections to these brands, not just used it in public,

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Speaker 21: but our farmers as well. So yeah, they'll ask those

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Speaker 21: questions and we'll be about talking to them. But at

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Speaker 21: this point, the feedback I've had for farmers has all

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Speaker 21: been positive.

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Speaker 4: It's been estimated that the average dairy farmer in the

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Speaker 4: white cutle we get about four hundred thousand dollars from it.

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Speaker 4: Is that about right?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, that's about right. You know, it depends on the

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Speaker 21: farmers that are significantly big them that of course, and

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Speaker 21: others on the other side. But yeah, that's a been an

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Speaker 21: average farmer I think, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Trush, well I would say yes to that, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 21: Well, yeah, of course. But it's a capital return, so

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Speaker 21: it's not like it's fallen from the sky. This is

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Speaker 21: capital I've had invested in the cop for a number

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Speaker 21: of years and so they're the questions that they'll ask.

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Speaker 21: But you know, it comes back to, you know, what

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Speaker 21: we've decided as a cooperative that we're going to go

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Speaker 21: after it's that ingredients business, it's food service, and we

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Speaker 21: believe that's where the returns are not just for now,

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Speaker 21: but into the long term, and so I think they'll

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Speaker 21: support that.

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Speaker 4: Part of the deal is a long term agreement for

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Speaker 4: Fonterra to sell milk and ingredients to these guys. How

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Speaker 4: long is that.

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Speaker 21: For will they vary depending on sort of what products

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Speaker 21: we're talking about. But you know we've talked about the

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Speaker 21: fresh milk agreement, which you know goes into sort of

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Speaker 21: the anchor two leaders. As we'll all know. You know,

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Speaker 21: there's a ten year agreement behind that, so you know

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Speaker 21: they're here for the long term and our farmers should

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Speaker 21: be pleased with that, as should the New Zealand public.

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Speaker 4: Part of the criticism of this is that you're backing

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Speaker 4: away from value added products, which we have for the

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Speaker 4: longest time being told is the key to New Zealand's

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Speaker 4: economic future. What's your response to that criticism.

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Speaker 21: We have three key channels, you know, the food service

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Speaker 21: that out of home consumption that you buy on a

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Speaker 21: restaurant or a bakery, and the ingredients business and the

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Speaker 21: consumer which you buy in the supermarket. Those three channels.

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Speaker 21: For since the Cooperative formation in two thousand and one.

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Speaker 21: That has been the lowest performing channel for a long time.

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Speaker 21: And so you know, there be a variety of reasons

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Speaker 21: that it is an expensive business to maintain. You've got

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Speaker 21: to continue to invest in it, and so there are

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Speaker 21: probably some reasons behind it. But we'll shown for a

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Speaker 21: long time that our core business of collection, process and

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Speaker 21: ingredients and that food service business you know, returns above

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Speaker 21: the cost of capital for our farmer owners. And that's

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Speaker 21: for therefore that to will put out our investment going forward.

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Speaker 4: So now that you're getting rid of this particular part

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Speaker 4: of the business, where do you focus your energy more intently?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, so it's that advanced ingredients, you know, and you've

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Speaker 21: got you know, the developed economies of North America, Europe

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Speaker 21: which are in Japan career, which are spending more on

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Speaker 21: health and wellness, and that's right in our wheelhouse. So

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Speaker 21: that's where we will go. And of course China and

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Speaker 21: Asia Pacific around that out of home consumption, so you know, bakeries,

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Speaker 21: restaurant chains are fast foods is a huge market still

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Speaker 21: to be tapped in that rule.

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Speaker 4: Well, isn't the argument here, Miles, actually that the advanced

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Speaker 4: ingredients is actually value added. Chopping up a block of

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Speaker 4: butter and sticking a wrapper on it is not really

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Speaker 4: value added.

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Speaker 21: Well, that's that's sort of the argument. There's not a

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Speaker 21: lot of science that goes into into a block of butter.

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Speaker 21: That that's the You know, we pride ourselves in the

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Speaker 21: way we farm and and the taste profile and the functionality.

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Speaker 21: But you know that the ip that sits in behind

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Speaker 21: you know, a sports drink for for athletes or not

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Speaker 21: even athletes these days, but you know that the joe

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Speaker 21: public that's out there going for a run or a

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Speaker 21: bike ride. I mean the science that goes into some

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Speaker 21: of those proteins. That that's what we believe our future is.

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Speaker 21: And as I say, that's where the value is for

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Speaker 21: us now and into the future.

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Speaker 4: So is it too early to crack a bottle of champagne?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I've got a few more media calls to do

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Speaker 21: for the rest of the evening, and farmer calls are

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Speaker 21: infat late into the night, so too early for that,

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Speaker 21: But we'll see what the week holds.

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Speaker 4: Good for you, Miles, enjoy it. Miles Hurrell, chief executive

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Speaker 4: at Fonterra. Twelf past five, Heather Do for CLA Parliament's

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Speaker 4: Banking Inquiry has finally released its report. There's no silver

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Speaker 4: bullet in it. Recommendations include things already underway, including the

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Speaker 4: capitalization of Kiwi Bank, but also banks being more transparent

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Speaker 4: with Farmers Ax Finance spokesperson Todd Stevenson was on the committee.

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Speaker 4: Hey Todd, Hi, Heather, how are you well? Thanks mate.

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Speaker 4: Now none of this is actually going to massively change

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Speaker 4: the game competition wise.

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Speaker 1: Is it.

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Speaker 22: Look No, as you said, there's no silver bullet. I

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Speaker 22: never we never really thought nacked there would be. But look,

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Speaker 22: there are some things that do need to be addressed.

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Speaker 22: And look, I think the bank inquiries had some success already, Heather.

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Speaker 22: You mentioned Reserve Banks already looking at its capital requirements.

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Speaker 22: They announced that during this inquiry, which I think is

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Speaker 22: quite interesting. I think they could see what.

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Speaker 4: Was said, come on now. That was because Nikola was

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Speaker 4: giving them the hard word in the meetings.

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Speaker 17: Ah.

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Speaker 22: Look, no, people were turning up at the Select Committee

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Speaker 22: saying it was a real problem, and I think they

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Speaker 22: saw where it was going to hit you. I mean

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Speaker 22: the other one too is open banking, with some prog

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Speaker 22: gress has been made on that too.

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Speaker 1: During the link.

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Speaker 4: Of course, the inquiry, Why do you say that there

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Speaker 4: is no silvable do you think do you nact think

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Speaker 4: there is no competition problem.

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Speaker 22: No, there's definitely a competition problem. I agree with that.

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Speaker 22: It's just that you've got to do a number of

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Speaker 22: things to actually increase that competition. And you mentioned rural banking.

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Speaker 22: I mean, well, I think looking at the capital requirements

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Speaker 22: and making sure that they are appropriate and we can

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Speaker 22: actually get new players into New Zealand, whether they're local

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Speaker 22: or overseas, that's definitely an area that needs focus, and

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Speaker 22: that's around capital requirements, around the other rules, and just

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Speaker 22: making sure it's actually easier to enter the New Zealand market.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, do you reckon farmers are going to be stoked

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Speaker 4: with your recommendations. I think they might be.

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Speaker 22: Look, you know, my colleague Mark Cameron was relentless at

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Speaker 22: questioning what was going on around particularly rural lending. Some

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Speaker 22: things obviously have come out about the different kind of

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Speaker 22: risks and interest rates that rural customers are forced to

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Speaker 22: kind of deal with, and so yeah, I think we're

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Speaker 22: going to see some aggress there, Todd.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for your time, mate. Todd Stevenson, Member of the

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Speaker 4: Finance and Expenditure Committee an ex Finance spokesperson, and we

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Speaker 4: wanted to speak to the chair, Cameron Brewer, but Cameron

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Speaker 4: didn't want to speak about it. And it baffles me.

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Speaker 4: Why you put out a report and they're not talk

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Speaker 4: about the report that you've been working on for more

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Speaker 4: than a year.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen past five, Heather Duplessy Allen.

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Speaker 4: If you had zesprion with Mike yesterday, one of the

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Speaker 4: things that they were pretty stoked about was that they

892
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Speaker 4: were getting this health claim recognized in Europe. We've now

893
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Speaker 4: got the details of the health claim. The European Commission

894
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Speaker 4: has approved the health claim that green kiwi fruit consumption

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Speaker 4: contributed to normal bowel function by increasing stool frequency based

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Speaker 4: on eating two of the fruits each day. Now, this

897
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Speaker 4: is the first ever fresh fruit to receive an authorized

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Speaker 4: health claim from the European Commission like this, and it's

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Speaker 4: fifteen years in the making, and this is good news.

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Speaker 4: So if you don't if people don't already love kiwi

901
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Speaker 4: friends a thousand reasons to love kiwi fruit, then surely

902
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Speaker 4: they're going to love it even more after this quarter past.

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Speaker 4: As I've told you, we got the Rugby deal signed.

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Speaker 4: It's sky obviously has been chosen again as the broadcaster

905
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Speaker 4: of choices, reportedly been signed for seventy five to eighty

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Speaker 4: million dollars. Also had Sky's results announced today which isn't flashed,

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Speaker 4: does a big berg drop in its profits for the

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Speaker 4: year to June. We're going to talk to Sky's CEO

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Speaker 4: after six o'clock, but after five point thirty David Kirk,

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Speaker 4: the Chair of Rugby is going to be with us,

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Speaker 4: so standby for that eighteen past five right now. Now,

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Speaker 4: following that huge controversy over the creep who's been working

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Speaker 4: in daycares in Victoria, Australia has just announced strict new

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Speaker 4: rules for childcare centers ECE workers will have to put

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Speaker 4: their names on a database, they will have to attend

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Speaker 4: mandatory safety training, they will not be able to use

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Speaker 4: their cell phones at work, and CCTV cameras will be

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Speaker 4: placed in three hundred centers around the country. Oli Pederson

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Speaker 4: is the presenter for six PR Perth Live over in

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Speaker 4: Perth with us right now, Hey, Oli, Hey, Heather. What's

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Speaker 4: been the reaction to this?

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Speaker 23: I think is largely positive and I actually think probably

923
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Speaker 23: the best part of the announcement today is that there

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Speaker 23: will be inspections at these childcare centers which are unannounced,

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Speaker 23: so that really puts every childcare center in Australia on

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Speaker 23: nine that at any time the inspectors can arrive and

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Speaker 23: make sure that everything is what it should be. So

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Speaker 23: we've already seen some states jump, like where I am

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Speaker 23: in Western Australia, they followed the lead of Victoria and

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Speaker 23: South Australia in banning personal mobile phones in childcare centers

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Speaker 23: and by the end of the year it will become

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Speaker 23: a requirement. The Attorney's generals are also working through this

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Speaker 23: in the States and with the Commonwealth government to roll

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Speaker 23: out closed circuit television networks, so there'll be security cameras

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Speaker 23: put in pretty much every childcare So look, from my

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Speaker 23: point of view, head, as you said those allegations made

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Speaker 23: by that absolute creepover in Victoria, I think the federal

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Speaker 23: government has done everything it could do, and I do

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Speaker 23: think the minister responsible for this, the Federal Education, mister

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Speaker 23: Jason Clare, he was very very strong on it this morning,

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Speaker 23: So I think that they've acted very quickly. You've got

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Speaker 23: to give the government and the state government's credit here

943
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Speaker 23: for obviously reacting to this situation and trying to beef

944
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Speaker 23: up the regulations as quickly as they possibly could.

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Speaker 4: What putting their names on a database have stopped this

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Speaker 4: creep from being able to do what he did. Well,

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Speaker 4: that's a good question.

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Speaker 23: I think it comes back to these working with children checks,

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Speaker 23: and I already know that New South Wales has jumped

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Speaker 23: a bit earlier on that.

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Speaker 16: So they want to try and obviously prevent individuals who

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Speaker 16: are seen.

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Speaker 23: As posing a risk the safety of children from working

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Speaker 23: in a child related and employment.

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Speaker 16: But look, I've had one of these. I've had a

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Speaker 16: working with children check as a junior cricket coach. It's

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Speaker 16: really easy to do. You walk into a post office,

958
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Speaker 16: you get a.

959
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Speaker 23: Form, you fill it out, and it's done and you

960
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Speaker 23: never hear from them again. So will this database actually

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Speaker 23: mean that this wouldn't happen again.

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Speaker 16: Probably not, let's be blunt about it.

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Speaker 24: But it will obviously raise a red flag if a

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Speaker 24: particular childcare worker shouldn't be in that setting, so that

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Speaker 24: when they go to obviously apply for a job and

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Speaker 24: they put your name to the database and they say

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Speaker 24: we can't employ Aliver Peterson, well then they're not going

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Speaker 24: to hopefully employ Aliver Peterson.

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Speaker 23: But if you change your name or you get some

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Speaker 23: way of getting around one of these police checks. Then

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Speaker 23: you know this situation could happen.

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Speaker 4: Here now only you have said on the show that

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Speaker 4: you don't like or men rather working in daycare centers.

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Speaker 4: You find it weird? Does this make you feel better

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Speaker 4: about it?

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Speaker 16: Not really like?

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Speaker 23: And I know I might sound a bit you know,

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Speaker 23: old fashioned saying that, but I you know, even talking

979
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Speaker 23: with my friends, and I'm not.

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Speaker 16: I'm a young dad, right, I've got a three year

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Speaker 16: old and a seven year old. You know that.

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Speaker 23: But I just I find the idea, I suppose a

983
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Speaker 23: bit creepy that you know, another man might be changing

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Speaker 23: my my son's nappy for example, or wiping his bottom.

985
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Speaker 23: And I realize that sounds probably, you know, straightaway sexist.

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Speaker 23: You're thinking, what are you talking about, Ollie? Mums do

987
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Speaker 23: it all the time. Why can't dads do it? I

988
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Speaker 23: just feel uncomfortable with it. And yep, call me old fashion,

989
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Speaker 23: that's fine, but I don't.

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Speaker 14: I just don't.

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Speaker 16: I just don't know why men would want to work

992
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Speaker 16: in childcare settings. It just gives me the x.

993
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Speaker 4: Ollie. What I love about you is you just so

994
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Speaker 4: forthright and you do not you do not hold back

995
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Speaker 4: your opinion. Mate, Thank you so much, really appreciate it.

996
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Speaker 4: Olli Peterson six PR Perth Live Present. I suppose if

997
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Speaker 4: you're going to be sexist, at least you be sexist

998
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Speaker 4: against your own, aren't you. Smith City bad news. Look,

999
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Speaker 4: you know, I think I think there may be a

1000
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Speaker 4: point here that we need to be a little bit

1001
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Speaker 4: more optimistic about you know, a little bit LEAs doom

1002
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Speaker 4: and gloom about the economy, right, and I think, why

1003
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Speaker 4: don't we give it a home, see what we can

1004
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Speaker 4: do here. But we have to also be realistic about

1005
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Speaker 4: what is actually happening. So unfortunately, Smith's City is another victim.

1006
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Speaker 4: Not altogether gone, but it has announced it's closing some

1007
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Speaker 4: of its stores. Nelson, blenh And Wellington, Palmeston, North toteng A,

1008
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Speaker 4: they've already closed, Wanaka store is in the process of

1009
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Speaker 4: shutting out shop. They once had thirty five stores. They've

1010
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Speaker 4: been around. I don't know if you realize this in

1011
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Speaker 4: the country for one hundred and seven years. Once had

1012
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Speaker 4: thirty five stores. Now they only have eleven. And as

1013
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 4: the owner, Colin Neil said, retail is tough. It's the economy.

1014
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Speaker 4: You don't buy a TV to Eat five twenty two.

1015
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Speaker 2: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather dup Clan

1016
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Speaker 2: Drive with one New Zealand coverage.

1017
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Speaker 1: Like no one else news talks.

1018
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 4: They'd be here the Miles Horrell has already said, Lactalise

1019
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 4: will take this to another level. Why doesn't Fonterra to

1020
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Speaker 4: do the same, Pete, Very good question. We'll come back

1021
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 4: to that five twenty five. Seems to me that Penny

1022
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 4: henades Shenanigans in the by election right now is exactly

1023
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Speaker 4: the kind of thing that Labor has to knock on

1024
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 4: the head quick smart if they want to be in

1025
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Speaker 4: the game at the election next year.

1026
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Speaker 1: Now.

1027
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Speaker 4: As we were discussing earlier, even though Carmel Sepaloni has

1028
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Speaker 4: told Penny off for saying that he wants to repeal

1029
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Speaker 4: the gang patch ban, he is not backing down, right.

1030
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Speaker 4: He said it on Wednesday, they told him on Thursday,

1031
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 4: and today he's not backing down. He's repeated it because

1032
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Speaker 4: he says it's his personal view if not the labor parties,

1033
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 4: and he has far no experience. Now why he's actually

1034
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 4: doing this, in my opinion, is because the Marti Party

1035
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 4: is doing it. That's the real reason because if you

1036
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Speaker 4: have a look at what actually happened on Wednesday night

1037
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Speaker 4: in that by election candidate's meeting, it was the Maori

1038
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Speaker 4: Party candidate or any kaipitter who first answered the question.

1039
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 4: The question was will you repeal the ban? She said yes,

1040
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Speaker 4: and after she said yes, Pennie Henade then said yes too. Now,

1041
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: maybe he does truly believe that it is the right

1042
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 4: thing to do, but as I told you, it makes

1043
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 4: no sense as a political calculation. Why would you chase

1044
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 4: the vote of ten thousand Gang members if doing that

1045
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 4: means that you lose the votes of I don't know,

1046
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 4: maybe one hundred thousand normal Kiwis who think the band

1047
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 4: is a good idea. The only answer to that question

1048
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 4: is because you actually don't care about the one hundred

1049
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Speaker 4: thousand votes. You're not trying to help the Labor Party

1050
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Speaker 4: when you're just trying to win your electorate seat in

1051
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Speaker 4: one of the Marti electrics, and you will say whatever

1052
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 4: it takes to match the Mahori Party. Now, Labour needs

1053
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Speaker 4: to sort the stuff out before the next election. If

1054
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Speaker 4: Penny or other candidates, or Willie Jackson, or even the

1055
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Speaker 4: entire Labor Party keeps chasing the Maori Party down the

1056
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Speaker 4: nutty Radical roll wrote they will lose Middle New Zealand,

1057
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Speaker 4: just like they did when Jacinda was being told what

1058
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 4: to do by William Nanaya. If I was giving them advice,

1059
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Speaker 4: it would be to leave the nutty stuff to the

1060
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Speaker 4: Mardi Party and go to the center themselves. Again, maybe

1061
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Speaker 4: it means MPs like Penny Hanaa will lose their seats,

1062
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Speaker 4: but that may be the sacrifice you have to make

1063
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Speaker 4: in order to win the election. Ever, Dup s Allen, Hey,

1064
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Speaker 4: get a load of this. David Kirk, by the way,

1065
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Speaker 4: off Rugby is going to be with us. He's the chair.

1066
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Speaker 4: He'll be with us straight after the news. Get a

1067
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Speaker 4: load of this. Serena Williams, as in like the tennis legend,

1068
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Speaker 4: has just admitted that she has been using ozepic like

1069
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Speaker 4: drugs to lose weight. She hasn't said which one it is,

1070
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Speaker 4: but it's one of those ones in that category. A

1071
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Speaker 4: zepic will go v all those kinds of things. She

1072
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Speaker 4: said she did it because after she had babies she

1073
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Speaker 4: just could not get back to her original, her pre

1074
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Speaker 4: baby weight. And this is even despite the fact that

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Speaker 4: she was playing tennis as a professional athlete. She could

1076
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Speaker 4: not do it. She was walking all of the time,

1077
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Speaker 4: she was doing everything. She could could not do it.

1078
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Speaker 4: Run and walk for hours to lose weight impossible. So

1079
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Speaker 4: as a result she had the old weight loss drugs

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Speaker 4: and now, I mean you should see the photographs of it.

1081
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Speaker 4: Like a she is a she's a shadow, like quite

1082
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Speaker 4: a hot shadow. But she's a shadow of what she

1083
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Speaker 4: used to be. Now do you just give up? I mean,

1084
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Speaker 4: do you just give up? Now? If even Serena cannot

1085
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Speaker 4: drop the baby weight, what hope is there for anybody else?

1086
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Speaker 4: Uses next?

1087
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Speaker 10: What a wind? What of Wigeon?

1088
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Speaker 2: The day's newsmakers talked to Heather first, Heather Dupless, the

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Speaker 2: Ellen drive with one New Zealand and the power of

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Speaker 4: five kgs. Something to look forward to. Thank you. Twenty

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Speaker 4: four away from sex Now, New Zealand Rugby has committed

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Speaker 4: to Sky TV for another five years. Every All Blacks

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Speaker 4: match will be on Sky, every NPC match and a

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Speaker 4: few Fara Palmer Cup games will be on TV and

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Speaker 4: Z and TV and Z plus free to air obviously.

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Speaker 4: David kirkis chair of New Zealand Rugby. Hey David, hi, ever,

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Speaker 4: do you feel like you've got a good deal.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I think we've got we've got a good deal,

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Speaker 25: a good deal for both parties. I think it's been

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00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 25: long long journey. Both both bodies have have worked hard

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Speaker 25: and I think we've got to a place which works

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Speaker 25: for both of us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what what took you guys so long? Because you've

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Speaker 4: been negotiating for such a long time.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think this is pretty complex.

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Speaker 25: There's there's a lot of new content that's come into

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00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 25: it in the Nation's Cup, the greatest rivalry. We've got

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Speaker 25: the Women's Lions coming to New Zealand during the next

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Speaker 25: five year period and also the Men's Lions. So there's

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Speaker 25: a lot of content and also there's a lot of

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Speaker 25: there's a lot of platforms these days, and so you

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Speaker 25: know you need to be negotiating you know, cross platform

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Speaker 25: as it were, so Sky obviously the core component, but

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Speaker 25: they've got their own, they've got two or three platforms

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Speaker 25: as well. We've got TVNZ a range of other people

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Speaker 25: who have been involved in the process along the way.

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Speaker 25: So just you know, just a complex deal to get done.

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Speaker 4: Why have it was it you who asked for the

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Speaker 4: MPC to be on TV and Z.

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Speaker 1: That was sort of a way.

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Speaker 25: The most appropriate way to think about that was it

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Speaker 25: was a way of breaking a bit of an impasse

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Speaker 25: because Sky had got to a level that they were

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Speaker 25: prepared to pay, they thought it was appropriate for them

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Speaker 25: to pay, and we weren't happy with that, and so

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Speaker 25: we needed to look for ways in which we could

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Speaker 25: bridge the gap. In One of the ways was to

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Speaker 25: find the third party that was was able to contribute

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Speaker 25: financially for some content that Sky was prepared to also

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Speaker 25: effectively share. So that's how we got to all ninety

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Speaker 25: three of the NPC games being broadcast on TV, inst

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Speaker 25: and far up on the Cup Games and Heartland Games.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that it will? I mean, because you know,

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Speaker 4: one of the sad things I suppose about the Super

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Speaker 4: Rugby era is that that that the NPC has kind

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Speaker 4: of dropped out of favor in terms of what we

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Speaker 4: were interested in. Do you think it might lift it

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Speaker 4: up again?

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Speaker 9: I think it will.

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Speaker 25: I think we're very hopeful it will because I mean

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Speaker 25: you've got to see it to do it really in

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00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 25: a way, you know, it really helps you. And if

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00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 25: you think about club players up and down across New Zealand,

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Speaker 25: their next step, the thing they most aspire to is

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Speaker 25: NPC rugby and if they can and if they can

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Speaker 25: see NCP being played, they can see the people that

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Speaker 25: they've played club rugby against playing n PC rugby on television.

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Speaker 25: You know that that helps with that aspiration, with that pathway.

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Speaker 25: I certainly know that was certainly the way I thought

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Speaker 25: about it when I was playing. So I think, yes,

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Speaker 25: I think it'll be great to have far more people

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Speaker 25: able to look to watch NPC rugby.

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Speaker 4: Now, those five exhibition games that are not going to

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Speaker 4: go to Sky, who do you think might buy them?

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Speaker 25: Interesting question? They're not actually exhibition games. They fall on

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Speaker 25: test matches.

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Speaker 4: But they're not they're unannounced test matches that set outside

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Speaker 4: the regular stuff, right.

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Speaker 25: Correct, So there's five test matches that are not part

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Speaker 25: of the domestic broadcast agreement. And we don't actually know

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Speaker 25: what those test matches are yet or where they'll be

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Speaker 25: played or against home or what time zone, but they'll

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Speaker 25: be serious test matches and well we you know, there's

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Speaker 25: no final decision on how we would look you know,

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Speaker 25: what we would look to do with those test matches

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Speaker 25: in terms of how we you know, make them financial.

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Speaker 4: I mean, could you sell them to Netflix in the

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Speaker 4: same way that that you know, you have the Tyson

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Speaker 4: Tyson Fury boxing match or something we.

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Speaker 25: Could sell to anyone. Yeah, and Sky certainly would be

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Speaker 25: able to We'll be able to bid for them, but

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Speaker 25: so will other global streamers, and so will we potentially

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Speaker 25: think about, you know, running them free to air. It

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Speaker 25: will just depend on what our particular you know, what

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Speaker 25: we want to get out of that, what benefits we

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Speaker 25: want to get out of those matches.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, David, thank you for your time. Appreciate it so much.

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Speaker 4: It's David Kirk, New Zealand Rugby Chair right now, twenty

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Speaker 15: With it in that cup booth. They're on the rampage

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Speaker 15: the All Blacks and Samasny tacky.

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Speaker 4: Oh it's got himself a second and that hits sealed.

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Speaker 7: The All Blacks wins forty one twenty.

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Speaker 1: Four Clanagan.

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Speaker 10: Dot Com. Yes, worry you.

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Speaker 17: Survive here in Audland.

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Speaker 10: Bar take pots to ten.

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Speaker 22: I've always actually wanted to go and play in Australia.

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Speaker 22: Is that opportunity came and I just thought I just

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Speaker 22: do something for myself and for my netports.

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Speaker 4: Sports tittle this evening Nathan Lemon News Talks he'd be

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Speaker 4: sports reporter and Lavina Good sports journalist.

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Speaker 1: Hello you two, Hello, Hello Kirot.

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Speaker 3: I'm nice to speak to you.

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Speaker 4: Both now, Nathan, what do you think of those five

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00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 4: floating games? Bizarre?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 20: I have no idea where they could go with that

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00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,479
Speaker 20: if it lies outside of the regular scheduling for tests

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00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 20: every year. I mean, the all blacks that already play

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00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 20: quite a lot, so to have five more, you'd think

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Speaker 20: they'd be spaced out over a number of years. So

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Speaker 20: we're thinking maybe what one extra each year?

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Speaker 4: I've thought it was the five four the five years,

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Speaker 4: like five games over the five years, so maybe just

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Speaker 4: one a year.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, So like, yeah,

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Speaker 20: I have no idea where they'd go with this or

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Speaker 20: what sort of opposition they look to. Do you do

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Speaker 20: you look to someone that we don't normally play and

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Speaker 20: the other aspect is who comes into the play in

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Speaker 20: terms of who's going to broadcast it, because obviously, you

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Speaker 20: know there's the obvious ones like our ones, the TV

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Speaker 20: and Z three, that sort of thing. But I don't

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Speaker 20: think we should rule out the major overseas streaming platforms.

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Speaker 20: We've seen the likes of Dezone get really into sport lately.

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00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 20: Obviously they've done a lot of boxing, They've also got tennis.

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Speaker 20: Now Disney has all of ESPN. If you want to

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00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 20: watch the NBA, you get Disney Plus. So let's not

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00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 20: rule out them and the big guns the NBA. I

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Speaker 20: don't think anyone from New Zealand's going to be able

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Speaker 20: to compete with them.

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Speaker 4: No, it'll be it'll be Saudi Arabia or something. Weren't

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Speaker 4: it Lavina.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so as well. I mean there's no competition in

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00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 3: terms of those big sports. But yeah, I mean you

1232
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 3: need to weigh up what's working and what isn't working.

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Speaker 3: And at the moment New Zealand Rugby are saying we

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00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 3: need to get a signing on the board, we need

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Speaker 3: to make sure we can expose everything that's needed to

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Speaker 3: be there. But you've also got to consider, like the

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Speaker 3: ninety three provincial matches that are free to air on

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00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 3: TV and said that's great for rugby. You need to

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00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 3: capture the fans and if you're not capturing the fans,

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Speaker 3: you've got no chance.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Isn't this a levina? Isn't this a lesson that we

1243
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 4: have learned about putting sport behind the paywall is that

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00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 4: it brings in the dollars up front, but long term

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00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 4: you start to lose the fans and the kids.

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Speaker 3: Want to well, I mean have that to be honest,

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00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 3: that's what's happening with Netbull New Zealand at the moment.

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Speaker 25: Yeah.

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00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 3: And if you don't capture that grassroots and investment and pathways,

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Speaker 3: if you're just all about let's get the broadcast deal,

1251
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 3: make money and corporate bring it in, then then you'll

1252
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 3: lose the audience. And if you lose the audience, as

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00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 3: we've seen for Netbulls, and that's a massive concern, a

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00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 3: massive concern.

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Speaker 4: Now, Nathan, are you starting to get a little worried

1256
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 4: about how many ball as we're losing to Australia in

1257
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 4: the UK?

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Speaker 20: Yes, it's got to the point where it is concerning

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00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 20: the number of players who are leaving. We knew that

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Speaker 20: there would be a handful of major players of silver fans,

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Speaker 20: sort of around five or six who would go to

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Speaker 20: Australia and have the exemptions. The issue is we are

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Speaker 20: now getting a lot of players who don't have the exemption,

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Speaker 20: who aren't in the silver Fans, who are still choosing

1265
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 20: to leave the A and Z Premiership.

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Speaker 4: Because Nathan, it's not just an exemption story, right. We

1267
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 4: were talking about the exemptions what like a year ago,

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00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 4: but it's been exemption granted at the same time as

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Speaker 4: and we're not paying.

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Speaker 20: You one hundred percent. There are two There are two

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00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 20: issues here, the broadcast deal and the exemptions, and I

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00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 20: think they're actually intertwined because if you're a broadcaster and

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Speaker 20: you're going do I want to broadcast the A and

1274
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 20: Z Premiership, what you want to know is who's going

1275
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 20: to be playing in the A and Z Premiership? Who

1276
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 20: are the big stars who are going to attract the audience.

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00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 20: And if they know that actually they're going to be

1278
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 20: handing out the exemptions and the six best players in

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00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 20: New Zealand are going to leave, then it's not going

1280
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 20: to be as tantalizing a product for a broadcast tobid

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Speaker 20: on and then you have less money to play, the

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00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 20: pay the players. The player are going to be taking

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00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 20: a pay cut, So the players then have to make

1284
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 20: a decision of do I want to stay here and

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00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,959
Speaker 20: take a pay cut I'm not in the silver fans,

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00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 20: or do I want to go to Ossie make Bank,

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00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 20: play in a better competition and live a better lifestyle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a no brainer, Levina. What about Kitty Wills

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00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 4: has said today that basically the ains In Premiership has

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00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 4: become a development competition. Is that true?

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I don't know if it's true, but it's

1292
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 3: like she's touted it and asked many questions. But the

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00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 3: thing is if the Ains Premiership could attract even half

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00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 3: of the international talent that Australia has done, then it

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00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 3: would be a much better competition. And it's a real

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00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 3: kind of balancing act for netball New Zealand at the moment.

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00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 3: You know, they need to start treating the league like

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00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 3: it's a product to sell. It's not a stepping stone.

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Speaker 3: If it's a stepping stone, we've lost nine players. We'll

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Speaker 3: lose another twenty if we're not careful, and we need

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Speaker 3: to make sure that New Zealand witness netble watch netball

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Speaker 3: and support netball and to do that, get the Aussie

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Speaker 3: players over here, get more money. You've got to get

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Speaker 3: more money, get the Aussies over here and make it

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00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 3: a better competition to watch.

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Speaker 20: It is becoming a development league though with the number

1307
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 20: of play there is not the depth in New Zealand

1308
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 20: to keep the talent to keep the level of competition

1309
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 20: the same. The Tactics have lost seven players. There are

1310
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 20: only seven players on the court at a time, right,

1311
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 20: so that's the entire team, and the Pulse have lost

1312
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Speaker 20: five and we're talking about five frontline starting player silver Ferns.

1313
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Speaker 20: You can't just bring up an entire team's worth of

1314
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 20: development players, girls who are coming out of school who

1315
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 20: aren't at hayin Z level and expect them to just

1316
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 20: play A and Z Premiership and be at the same level.

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00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 20: It's not going to be the same product.

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Speaker 4: No, You're going to have to import a lot of players. Okay,

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Speaker 4: let's take a break and come back. Shortly fourteen away

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Speaker 4: from six.

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Speaker 2: The Friday Sports title with New Zealand South of Ey's

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Speaker 2: international realty the ones for unmatched results.

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Speaker 4: You're back with the sports huddle. Nathan Limb Lavina, Good Lavina,

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Speaker 4: what are the chances the Warriors end up in the

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Speaker 4: top four.

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Speaker 3: Oh goodness, I honestly I think they'll make the top four.

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Speaker 3: And as for tomorrow against the Titans, it's great. They've

1328
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Speaker 3: got Capewell back and so mighty Martin and we all

1329
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 3: know Jackson Ford will not be playing. But like the

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01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 3: Titans beat them sixty six to six last year, Heather,

1331
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 3: and it was like quite a flogging and the Warrior

1332
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 3: was you know that, yeah, the Warrior, Heather. The Warriors

1333
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Speaker 3: are fifth and the Titans at seventeen. So here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: About the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: They win the games we expect them to win, they

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Speaker 3: lose the games that we think, you know. So I

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Speaker 3: just think I don't know, like I reckon they will

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Speaker 3: beat the Titans tomorrow, but they certainly have a couple

1339
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 3: of teams breathing down their necks, including the Roosters and

1340
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Speaker 3: the Panthers and the Broncos. And what I've seen from

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Speaker 3: the Warriors so far, I do not think they will

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Speaker 3: finish in the top four when it comes to the finals.

1343
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Speaker 3: And it's been like the last time a top eight

1344
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 3: finals format was introduced was nineteen ninety nine. No team

1345
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 3: outside of the top five has won anything for a

1346
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 3: premiership in nineteen ninety nine. But the product is so good,

1347
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 3: it's so good to watch, it doesn't really matter. I

1348
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Speaker 3: do not think they'll make the top four.

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Speaker 4: Nathan.

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Speaker 20: The Warriors have the Titans, the Eels and the Seagulls left.

1351
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 20: All three of those teams have really struggled this year.

1352
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Speaker 20: If the Warriors lose to the Titans, it'll be the

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Speaker 20: seventh last in the last eight games. And the Big

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01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 20: League podcast on Monday is going to be very morbid.

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01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 4: But is that your podcast?

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Speaker 20: It is my podcast.

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01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 4: It's z Big thought them, so we get the plug in.

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Speaker 20: It's fine, but no, Look the Warriors, it's been the

1359
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 20: whole thing all year has been injuries. If you lose

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Speaker 20: your half back and you lose your best forward in

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01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 20: Mitch Barnett, you are going to struggle. The fact that

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Speaker 20: Warriors are still in the top four is remarkable in itself.

1363
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 20: If they can get past the Titans, they'll still be

1364
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 20: top four with two games to go. Look, I think

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Speaker 20: they can do it, but it feels a long way away.

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Speaker 20: And the NRL is a competition where you can have

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Speaker 20: the seventeenth place team knocking off one of the top

1368
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Speaker 20: four teams, which is what makes it so good that

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Speaker 20: the thing is though, if they limp through to the finals,

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01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 20: it's still in the same place and suddenly everything goes

1371
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 20: up agear. So if they finished top four, it's still

1372
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Speaker 20: not looking likely that they make a very fire on

1373
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 20: the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well they won't for this top four, they won't

1375
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 4: be okay, right, So it's just it's low expectations. You

1376
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 4: never know what might happen. Now, I'm told Levina that

1377
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 4: you were at the World Games this week, and my

1378
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 4: question is what are the World Games?

1379
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 3: Well, the World Games are held every four years and

1380
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 3: they consist of sports that have not been invited into

1381
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 3: into the Olympics, and it's like a massive event. There's

1382
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 3: four thousand athletes that are competing and trying to showcase

1383
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 3: their sport. New Zealand did very well in life saving,

1384
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 3: a couple of gold medals in fact. But I had

1385
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Speaker 3: a chat with the life saving peeps afterwards and said,

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01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 3: you guys did great, and they're like, you know what,

1387
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 3: we actually we're not competing well enough against the European country.

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01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 3: So what the word I had heither from the life

1389
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 3: saving piece was why don't we join forces with Australia.

1390
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 3: Why don't we join forces. Why don't we get all

1391
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 3: the funding, all the pathways, everything together, and then we

1392
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 3: can beat Belgium, Italy and Germany. And I'm like, that's

1393
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 3: never going to happen.

1394
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 4: I thought there was going to be the vision for

1395
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 4: the future. Nathan.

1396
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Speaker 3: It might happen, It might happen, It might happen.

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you very much, guys. Nathan. What's the

1398
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Speaker 4: name of the podcast we need to look out for

1399
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 4: on Monday?

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Speaker 20: The Big League Podcast on Monday.

1401
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 4: Heather don't say I don't do him any favors.

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01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 26: Thank you.

1403
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 4: Thank you to Nathan Limb and Lavina Good our sports

1404
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 4: huddle this evening eight away from.

1405
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: Six, it's the Heather Duper.

1406
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 2: See Allen Drive Full Show podcast on my Art Radio

1407
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 2: powered by News Talk ZB.

1408
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 4: Hither that's sort of talk about netball competition in New

1409
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 4: Zealand's not helpful. We have been the first, second, or

1410
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 4: the third in the world. We're not an appendage to Australia.

1411
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 4: We just have to get a good business model in

1412
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 4: place and we can do it. Graham, I appreciate your

1413
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 4: enthusiasm and your optimism, but unfortunately the best case scenario

1414
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 4: for netball, and you talk to anybody who you know

1415
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 4: watches this and analyzes it and is interested in it.

1416
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 4: Excuse me. The best case scenario for netball in this

1417
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 4: country is that we limp through for the next two

1418
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 4: years or so. This is what Nathan and I would

1419
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 4: just discuss during the ad break. Limp through for the

1420
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 4: next couple of years until the broadcast deal comes up

1421
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 4: for the Australian competition. Then get a team or two

1422
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 4: in there. That'll be the start of twenty eight. That's

1423
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 4: the best case scenario basically for netball. So we will

1424
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 4: be well, not an appendage, just part of now. Four

1425
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 4: away from six Happy World Poetry Day. It is today

1426
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 4: at the Women's bookstore on pontsib we had a big

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01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 4: sign out the front you could pull a little poem

1428
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Speaker 4: off the poetry tree. That of course they did and

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Speaker 4: I did. I pulled what wasn't a good one anyway.

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Speaker 4: So I have come armed with my favorite poem. I'm

1431
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 4: going to read you my fa I know, I know,

1432
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 4: did you know? I mean, who has a favorite poem?

1433
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Speaker 14: Me?

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01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 4: Here it is death. Prepare yourself, Please make yourself comfortable.

1435
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 4: If you've got a whiskey. Get it. Let's have a

1436
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Speaker 4: poetry reading. It's called Death Called By, and it's by

1437
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Speaker 4: Sam Hunt, and it's from his book of poems about rivers.

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01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 4: You know, the one that's about the hooky younger. You

1439
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 4: know the one I'm talking about Death called By the

1440
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 4: other day. No one was a home at the time.

1441
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 4: A note said, sorry I missed you stuck under the

1442
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 4: front door, Matt. I'm sorry I missed him too. I

1443
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 4: would have asked him on in, told him to kick

1444
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 4: off his boots and leave his sigh at the gate.

1445
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 4: We would have had a catch up, maybe rolled up

1446
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 4: a number. I'd tell him I was pissed off at

1447
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Speaker 4: the friends he'd taken out. Death would have passing the joint,

1448
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 4: agreed it was just a job he was sent here

1449
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 4: to do. Then he would ask what about you?

1450
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Speaker 25: You like it?

1451
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Speaker 4: Are you trying to understand it, Laura? Did you get

1452
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 4: it okay? Because what it was is he Death came

1453
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 4: to visit him to get him ah, and he was.

1454
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 4: They were just having a chat, and then he was

1455
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 4: going to take him off with him as well. So

1456
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Speaker 4: there's no point being pissed off if he's going to

1457
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 4: go see your friends in a minute, aren't you anyway?

1458
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 4: There you go, so now you can say that you

1459
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 4: know things. By the way, the four middle aged Pontsibly

1460
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Speaker 4: dads and their cocaine deal. I have confirmed their concert

1461
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Speaker 4: as we expected that they would. Was it at nine am?

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Speaker 7: Nine?

1463
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is five. I'm talking about Auckland Trust Serena

1464
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 4: Monday Twitter. You've changed the music on us, an't you ants?

1465
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 4: Here you go May next year at the trusts Arena.

1466
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 4: You can go see a whole bunch of dad singing

1467
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 4: songs at you. Sophie Maloney of sky TV is with

1468
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Speaker 4: us next.

1469
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Speaker 2: I want to take a little chart to refresh your

1470
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Speaker 2: mark because the boys are back in town with a

1471
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Speaker 2: different cart form where business meets inside the Business Hour

1472
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Speaker 2: with Heather Duplicy, Allen and.

1473
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: Maz for Trust at Home Insurance Solutions. News Talk said be.

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01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 4: Peter Lewis will be with us out of Asia very soon.

1475
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 4: Barry Sooper will wrap the political week that was shortly

1476
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 4: and of course Gavin Gray does the UK for US

1477
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 4: at seven past six. Now it's been a rough full

1478
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 4: year result for sky TV. Adjusted net profit for the

1479
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 4: year just gone was forty one point one million dollars.

1480
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 4: That's down sixteen and a half percent. On the positive side,

1481
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Speaker 4: the rights to the rugby including basically all of the

1482
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 4: all of the All Blacks games, have been renewed for

1483
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 4: another five years. Sophie Maloney is the sky TV chief executive.

1484
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 4: Hey Sophie, sure to hear that?

1485
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Speaker 27: Heying?

1486
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 4: And well thank you? Now why is it that the

1487
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 4: rugby deal was only signed at seven thirty this morning?

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Speaker 27: These deals are pretty complex and continuous disclosure says, once

1489
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 27: they're signed, you you go out. But yeah, it did

1490
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Speaker 27: take a lot of approvals overnight to get it over

1491
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Speaker 27: the line.

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Speaker 28: But I'm thrilled we have.

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, so because I just assumed it might have

1494
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 4: been a timing thing as you just as you just

1495
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 4: indicated that it would be better to have all of

1496
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Speaker 4: this announced in one go. But were you guys actually

1497
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Speaker 4: negotiating to the last minute?

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01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 26: Ah?

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01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 27: Yeah, there was always there's always a lot of details

1500
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Speaker 27: set through when you're talking about a five year term

1501
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 27: with lots of cool new rights coming to market. So yeah,

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Speaker 27: we're really excited about the partnership and to both negotiating

1503
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 27: teams for continuing to do the money and get it

1504
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 27: over the line.

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01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 4: What was the sticking point was it the price.

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01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 27: No, there are lots of there are a lot of

1507
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 27: complexity to it to it either, but and I'm just

1508
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 27: really thrilled that for our customers they know they can

1509
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 27: where they can find all of the rugby that they love,

1510
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 27: and obviously a new partnership with TV and Z which

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01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 27: I think is going to be great for provincial rugby.

1512
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 27: So yeah, just really thrilled overall.

1513
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 4: Is what the Herald is reporting at seventy five to

1514
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 4: eighty million dollars about right.

1515
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 27: No, I'm not going to be commenting on the.

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01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 4: Price either it was that it No, that's wrong, or

1517
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 4: just no, I'm not commenting.

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Speaker 27: No, I'm not commenting on any of the value. What

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Speaker 27: we've always said to investors is we you know, we've

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Speaker 27: got this forty seven to forty nine percent of revenue

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Speaker 27: that we have had as a target for the last

1522
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 27: few years and we're delivering against that this financial So

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Speaker 27: that's the context I'm going to give you. I'm not

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Speaker 27: going to be drawn on price.

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Speaker 4: Now the TV and Z aspect, why didn't you guys

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Speaker 4: choose TV three for the NBC and stuff like that.

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Speaker 27: Oh look, the first first comment is it is for

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Speaker 27: New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: Rugby.

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Speaker 27: They're the rights holder to determine where they want to

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01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 27: place their rights, and I think this is a great place.

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Speaker 27: You know, it's a nice innovation with New Zealand Rugby

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01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 27: and there'll be a good partnership without Sky Sport in

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01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 27: the TVNZ Sport team as we lock to grow the

1535
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 27: fandom of the of the NPC and FPC and Heartland

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Speaker 27: for the next five years.

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Speaker 4: Did you offer them the TV three part?

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Speaker 27: No, that wasn't part of the conversation.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So, so, so what about the delayed games, because

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Speaker 4: don't you have to play some of your tests delayed

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Speaker 4: on free to air?

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Speaker 27: We've got the there are some delays that we play

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Speaker 27: through without all blacks. I haven't actually got those in

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01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 27: front of me in terms of what the timelines are,

1545
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 27: but in terms of live to delay, that's something that

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01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 27: we've done with Super Rugby this year on Sky Open

1547
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 27: and so I think that's what TVNZ is looking to

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Speaker 27: do on TV one because it does help drive additional

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01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 27: ad revenue to support the offer.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, so that goes onto TV and Z as well,

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01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 4: does it not TV three?

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01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 1: No?

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01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 27: No, no, sorry, I was talking about what we do

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 27: in terms of our live to delay Super Rugby. No,

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01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 27: that's staying with Sky.

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01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 4: That Sky open, does it?

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01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 27: Yeah, that's saying with Sky And if we want to

1558
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Speaker 27: do that on three going forward.

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Speaker 4: That will be a choice that we can make brilliant. Okay, Now, realistically,

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Speaker 4: can you ever see the A and Z Premiership playing

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Speaker 4: on Sky ever? Again?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 27: Of course it could.

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Speaker 28: It could.

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Speaker 27: It could well play on Sky again. I think it's

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01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 27: just it wasn't something that we could reach agreement on

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01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 27: for for the next season. And there's obviously a lot

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01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 27: of opportunity in front of New Zealand Netball to see

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Speaker 27: how they might be able to reshape their their schedule,

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01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 27: got players that want to go across and plan the

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Speaker 27: sun Corp and I think there is a vibrant way

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Speaker 27: for them to make that work for them and the

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Speaker 27: players and for the New Zealand public.

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Speaker 4: What would it take to get them back on Sky

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Speaker 4: for you, for you guys to want to pay for it.

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Speaker 27: It's all about all about the you know, the interest

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01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,839
Speaker 27: in the viewership and also looking at the other sports

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Speaker 27: that we have at the time and the schedule, so

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Speaker 27: you know, the timeline when they actually play the A

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Speaker 27: and zp would go into that value to viewership equation

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Speaker 27: and so look, we remain open to that. I think

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Speaker 27: it's obviously a changing dynamic and changing time, but I

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01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 27: think the New Zealand Netball leadership team are very alive

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Speaker 27: to it and no doubt I'm looking to innovate. And

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Speaker 27: of course we've got the Silver Ferns coming later this year,

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Speaker 27: so we're excited to continue that and we have them

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Speaker 27: in the Commonwealth Games next year too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how are you going to get some compo for

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Speaker 4: that satellite stuff up? Yes, we have.

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Speaker 27: We have secured support from Optus and we actually communicated

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01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 27: that in the results. There's an eight point two million

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Speaker 27: which is coming through to support some of the costs

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Speaker 27: that we have incurred, which is in addition to other credits,

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Speaker 27: so this remains largely cash neutral by the end of

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Speaker 27: this financial year, when do.

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Speaker 4: You reckon so for the economy improves enough for people

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Speaker 4: to want to know to reverse the decline that you've

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Speaker 4: got on the subscribers here.

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Speaker 27: Look, I think it's pretty tough out there and I

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Speaker 27: would hope that I would hope at the start of

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Speaker 27: next year, for the start of the new sports season,

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Speaker 27: maybe there'll be some pick up in the economy. But yeah,

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Speaker 27: certainly is pretty tough out there at the moment for Kiwis.

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Speaker 27: So we are working hard to try and nurture as

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Speaker 27: many customers as we can, but you know people are struggling, Heather.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you don't sound like you're absolutely certain

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Speaker 4: that we're going to be feeling super cool next year

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Speaker 4: at the start. No, why not? Why are you not certain?

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Speaker 27: Who can be certain about how people are going to

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Speaker 27: be feeling heither at that time? But you know we can.

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Speaker 4: But isn't this I mean hopeful. The reason I'm asking you,

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Speaker 4: Sophie is because isn't this kind of a feature of

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Speaker 4: this recession that that every single time we think we're

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Speaker 4: about to get better and we see some green shoots,

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Speaker 4: and so when it turns into a full storm, well.

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Speaker 27: That's that's why we have guided as we have. We

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Speaker 27: haven't put any kind of hits and hope revenue targets

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Speaker 27: based on economy rebounding. We are looking to work with

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Speaker 27: customers and nurture them through. But obviously it is about

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Speaker 27: delivering great content and I do think that's a really

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Speaker 27: important part of what we do is a little bit

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Speaker 27: of escape when it is tough out there, and of

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Speaker 27: course we have neon of those and an ad know

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Speaker 27: an ad funder tear to support those New Zealanders who

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Speaker 27: want a little bit of relief. It can't afford necessarily

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Speaker 27: a full subscription. And you know the title that is

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Speaker 27: getting a lot of go.

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Speaker 10: On there moment.

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Speaker 4: What is it? It's outrageous, Heather.

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Speaker 27: I am going to be watching it this weekend. Apparently

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Speaker 27: it's a lot of fun. So that one it's about

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01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 27: the Midford sisters and I don't have the access names

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Speaker 27: in front of me. And the other one that is coming,

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Speaker 27: which you will absolutely love, is Forever Auckland f C

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Speaker 27: Fly on the Wall Jocko by Dame Julie Christie. You're

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Speaker 27: gonna love it.

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Speaker 4: I have heard, actually yes I've seen. I've seen the

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Speaker 4: shorts for the for Outrageous. All right, have you finished watching?

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Speaker 4: And just like that, then.

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Speaker 27: I'm not really one of those I don't.

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Speaker 4: Watch it, Okay, right, too cool? Cool for that, Sophie.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, Sophie, you appreciate it. Sophie Maloney'

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Speaker 4: Sky TV chief executive. Coming up quarter past six.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 2: on my Heart Radio.

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01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 1: Powered by news dog Zeppi.

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Speaker 4: The feeling is that China is actually a beneficiary of

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01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 4: Trump meeting with Vladimir Putin. So Peter Lewis will run

1649
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Speaker 4: us through that when he's with us shortly. It's coming

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Speaker 4: up eighteen past six. Barry Soper, senior political correspondent, rapping

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Speaker 4: the political week. That was Welcome back, Barry, Thank you, Heather.

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Speaker 1: Nice to be here again.

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Speaker 4: Not the biggest political news, but the best political news

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Speaker 4: of the week. Mallard's been called home.

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Speaker 5: Well, yes, certainly Winston has got some cutos, but some

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01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 5: would say he's waited a long time.

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Speaker 9: It's a couple of years.

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01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 4: It's a performance.

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01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 9: Well, yes it is.

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Speaker 5: It's theater as far as Winston goes. But look, you'd

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Speaker 5: have to say at the beginning, why on earth was

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Speaker 5: Trevor Mallard, the most undiplomatic person I think I've ever

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01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 5: met in politics appointed to a diplomatic role in Ireland. Well,

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01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 5: the reason is that he had family there, and he's

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Speaker 5: got grandchildren.

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Speaker 4: And he was appointed by his mates.

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Speaker 5: And Justin Deurn very close to Trevor Mallard. Look, I'll

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Speaker 5: look after you, we'll give you a knighthood and we'll

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Speaker 5: give you an ambassadorship in Ireland, and I tried to

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Speaker 5: find out exactly what he's done since he's been in Ireland.

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Speaker 5: Not a hell of a lot. As the answer, there's

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01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 5: been no major breakthrough for Irish New Zealand relationships. But

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Speaker 5: he should never have been there. I mean you remember

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Speaker 5: his behavior during the protests out the front of Parliament

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01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 5: exacerbated the problem out there, the sprinkler's Barry Manilow, and

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01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 5: then claiming there was a rapist earlier on working in

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Speaker 5: Parliament building, which was one of my stories. I fell

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01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 5: out big time with Trevor Millard over the story because

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01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 5: he didn't want me to do it, begged me not

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01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 5: to run the story. Well, he begged me not to

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01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 5: run it because he knew full well that what he

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01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 5: was saying was absolute balderdash. So now he's coming back.

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Speaker 5: Goodness only knows what he's going to do back in

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01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 5: this country, but no doubt he'll settle and fade into

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Speaker 5: the wilderness.

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Speaker 4: Winston's actually on a ripper, isn't he, because nobody has

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Speaker 4: he done this, but he's going up in the polls.

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Speaker 4: And then he's also offered to appear before the Royal

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Speaker 4: Commission of inquiry basically just shame Outsender and Grant and

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Speaker 4: everyone else.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it that Winston in the early months

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Speaker 5: of COVID. Let's face it, he was then in the

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Speaker 5: cabinet and had a roll then. But when the announcement

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Speaker 5: was made that this country would be going into a

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Speaker 5: series of lockdowns. It so on the twenty first March

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty that was election year. Don't forget, but I

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01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,799
Speaker 5: do remember on that very day it was a Saturday

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Speaker 5: ringing Winston Peters.

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Speaker 9: So what the hell do you think you're up to?

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Speaker 9: You know what's going on here?

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Speaker 5: And he was aghast, I've got to say then, and

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01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 5: no doubt he could give some sort of perspective in

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01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 5: the early days at least of the coalition government and

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01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 5: how decisions were made and why they were made, because

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Speaker 5: I would like to see at least some of them

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01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 5: are giving a performance and public so that we can

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Speaker 5: understand a bit more what was behind their reasoning.

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Speaker 4: Now have you managed to figure out why it is

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01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 4: that Helen is so sad that the politics I give up.

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01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,799
Speaker 5: I do not know who knows, and I can't really

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Speaker 5: see Helen Clark and being the best of Bosom buddies.

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Speaker 5: I know them both pretty well and just and did

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Speaker 5: work for Helen Clark in the early days in parliament.

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Speaker 5: That to me was one of the problems with that

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Speaker 5: Labor Coalition government or the Labor government itself, was that

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Speaker 5: all the people that were leading at Grant Robertson they

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Speaker 5: were employees of the state of the political process within parliament.

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Speaker 5: She worked for Helen Clark, I don't know. She said

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Speaker 5: she was a great.

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Speaker 4: Loss, devastating, devastating loss for women.

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Speaker 5: But this goes back to that, doesn't it. Social media

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Speaker 5: and how women say that they're so badly hillaryad by

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Speaker 5: social media and that it's so hard to take and

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Speaker 5: we always hear it. But the old story is here though,

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Speaker 5: that anyone, including myself, that speaks publicly, you get dished

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01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 5: on social media all the time. And what you do

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Speaker 5: to get over that is not read it just don't

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Speaker 5: look at it.

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Speaker 9: And that's what I say.

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Speaker 4: And speaking of which, have you played the beat the

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Speaker 4: bush game?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: I haven't.

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Speaker 4: You haven't tried to beat up Chris Bishop with the

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Speaker 4: cricket bat.

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Speaker 9: What would I want to beat up Christ Bishop? I

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Speaker 9: knew his father.

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Speaker 5: I worked with his father who was politically editor for.

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Speaker 4: You, and you gave him this big break in journal. Listen,

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Speaker 4: what do you make of Labor trying to chase the

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Speaker 4: Maori Party down this weird radical path. If they go

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Speaker 4: down with the gang patches, well it's.

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Speaker 5: A real problem for Labor, I think, I mean Chris

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Speaker 5: Hipkins should have come out immediately and put a dampner

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Speaker 5: on what Peni Henarda had been saying.

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Speaker 9: But the thing is interestingly that.

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Speaker 5: Pennie Henada has doubled down on this. No, no, no,

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Speaker 5: the patches will be back if we become the government. Well,

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Speaker 5: of course, sir Chris Hipkins should be duty bound to

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01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 5: put the kiboych on it, because not a good look.

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Speaker 5: He's trying to win that mad radical MILDI vote in

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01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 5: Tammocky Macoulda. But you can win the vote, but you

1753
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 5: can't win the battle when it comes to the treasury

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01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 5: benches if you go down a silly track like this one.

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Speaker 5: But I think Penny Henade has had leadership aspirations in

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Speaker 5: the past, and who knows, this might be the start

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Speaker 5: of his play.

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Speaker 4: Interesting take on it, Barry, Thanks very much. Barry Soper,

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Speaker 4: Senior political correspondent, Rapping the political week. That was Debra

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Speaker 4: sent in a poem for Poetry Day. I'll read it

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01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 4: to you next six twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Whether it's Macro microbe or just playing economics. It's all

1763
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 2: on the business hours with Heather Duplicy, Ellen and Mas for.

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Speaker 1: Trusted Home Insurance solutions use cogs.

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Speaker 4: Be here the full Poetry Day. There are holes in

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Speaker 4: this sky where the rain gets in. But the holes

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01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 4: are very small, and that's why the rain is so thin.

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Speaker 4: Beautiful Deborah, thank you. Twenty six past six Showbus News.

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Speaker 10: I'm I'm plucky legend, Boo pray care the boys. I'm

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Speaker 10: not his chair. I want it.

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Speaker 4: You know this? This is bring it on?

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Speaker 25: Isn't that?

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Speaker 10: I'm ready.

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Speaker 4: That's your little day. So here's a quiz for you. Okay,

1775
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 4: so you know that actress. She was Claudia in the

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Speaker 4: Interview with the Vampire and she played Torrents and Bring

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01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 4: it On. She was Mary Jane Watson in the Original

1778
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 4: Spider Man movie. She was nominated for an Academy Award

1779
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Speaker 4: for the Power of the Dog. Her surname is Dunst.

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Speaker 4: Her first name is what. No, You're wrong, he said

1781
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 4: it wrong. I mean everyone messes up my name, so

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Speaker 4: I give up.

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Speaker 10: I don't care.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I'll answer Kristin Kirsten Kirsten, which is how

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01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:54,919
Speaker 4: you say my name. But I don't blame people. Kirsten Duncet.

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Speaker 4: We never knew it. She's not the only celeb who

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01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 4: has people pronounce their name wrong. Lindsay it's actually low End,

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01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 4: not low hand. And Timothy Challa May is actually Timultey

1789
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Speaker 4: Chello May. Is this useful for us? Probably? What about Charlie?

1790
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Speaker 4: Do you know how to say that ends?

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Speaker 15: I thought it was Charlie's theron.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Charlie's tron. Charlie's tron Tron. That's so much cooler.

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Speaker 4: It is a It is just like because it's like Hamiltron,

1794
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 4: like Future of the City, Charlie's Tron. I only know

1795
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Speaker 4: that because she she comes from the same part of

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Speaker 4: the world where I was born, So it's a pronunciation thing. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: Peter Lewis is going to be out of Asia.

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Speaker 10: Next.

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Speaker 4: News is coming straight at.

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Speaker 2: Us, everything from s M E's to the big corporates,

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Speaker 2: The Business Hour with Heather Dup c Ellen and MAS

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Speaker 2: for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions, News talks En b I'm

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Speaker 2: sorry that your day.

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Speaker 4: A lot of poems out Full World Poem Day, So

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Speaker 4: hold on, Poe three days, I'll get you some and

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Speaker 4: the tick again. Gavin Gray out of the UK. Very shortly,

1807
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Speaker 4: I've got to talk to you about what's going down

1808
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Speaker 4: with Donald Trump and Poutin, though I think it's quite interesting,

1809
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 4: but really quickly. I was telling you yesterday that Twitter's

1810
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 4: AI chatbot Grok had named the wrong Kiwi richlister as

1811
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Speaker 4: the one that was being sent to jail for child porn.

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Speaker 4: It's just struck again with something completely nuts. Again. It's

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Speaker 4: told users how to assassinate Elon Musk. It is, according

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Speaker 4: to Forbes, provided meticulous and a meticulous and executable plan

1815
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 4: to murder Elon Musk. They are not giving the details

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01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 4: because obviously it could well work. Also has included a

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Speaker 4: detailed hypothetical guide on constructing a Sea four like explosive

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Speaker 4: and instructions on how to concoct homemade drugs. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's winning. Twenty four away from seven. Peter Lewis our

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Speaker 4: Asia Business correspondence with me, Hello Pizza, Hello Heather. So

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Speaker 4: how is China a beneficiary of what's going on between

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Speaker 4: Trump and Putin?

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Speaker 28: Well, first of all, the most obvious way is that

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Speaker 28: at the moment, Russia's avoided secondary sanctions on all of

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Speaker 28: its oil exports. You remember that before this summit with Putin,

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Speaker 28: Trump was vary extreme tariffs on Russia if it didn't

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Speaker 28: agree to a cease fire. When it didn't agree to

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01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 28: a cease fire. But yet once again Trump backs down

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Speaker 28: and moved away from that position, So that sort of

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Speaker 28: frees up China to carry on importing oil from Russia

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Speaker 28: and any other products that it's that it needs. In fact,

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Speaker 28: and the second thing it does is it gives China

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Speaker 28: time because this is going to go on for a while.

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Speaker 28: There's going to be negotiations, and it's clear from the

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Speaker 28: way things are going at the moment, this is not

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Speaker 28: going to be resolved very quickly. And what China wants

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Speaker 28: is it has no intention of going back to where

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Speaker 28: things were before Donald Trump got elected in any trade

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Speaker 28: deal that it negotiates with the US. On the contrary,

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Speaker 28: what it wants to do is to create a new

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Speaker 28: world trading order with itself at the center of it.

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Speaker 28: And in particular, it wants to make itself completely self sufficient.

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Speaker 28: It doesn't want to have to rely on the US

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Speaker 28: for anything. It doesn't want to have to rely on

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Speaker 28: the US for its technology and its semiconductors. It doesn't

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Speaker 28: want to have to rely on the US its commodities,

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Speaker 28: any of its farm products. It really wants to be

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Speaker 28: totally self sufficient. And this is probably the number one

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Speaker 28: sort of economic aim of President Cheating Ping at the

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Speaker 28: moment now has been working on that for a while.

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Speaker 28: China has been preparing for this eventuality of a second

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Speaker 28: Trump presidency and the possibility of a trade war for years,

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Speaker 28: and it is making steps to remove that dependency now

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Speaker 28: with export far more to countries in Southeast Asia, Latin America,

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Speaker 28: and the Middle East compared with the growth that it's

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Speaker 28: seeing in its US markets. So these markets are becoming

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Speaker 28: much more important to China and will continue to be

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Speaker 28: important going forward. They're going to take up much more

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Speaker 28: of China's trade and as a result, China is really

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Speaker 28: creating this trading system that just cuts out the US altogether,

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Speaker 28: and it will get on with it with these other countries.

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Speaker 28: But it needs time to do that, and this outcome

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Speaker 28: at the moment from the summit booting gives China more

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Speaker 28: time to move forward with that plan.

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Speaker 4: And how things going with India not well.

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Speaker 28: This extraordinary dust up between Trump and undram Modi, which

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Speaker 28: is seems to continue to be continuing. There's no sign

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Speaker 28: at all that they're going to back down. We had

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Speaker 28: Scott Vessons and Peter Navarro basically saying that India was

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Speaker 28: benefiting and its big families were benefiting from buying Russian

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Speaker 28: oil and that it was damaging cooperation between the two

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Speaker 28: countries and furthering. Russia has got no intention of backing down.

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Speaker 28: He's reaching out towards both in both China and Russia

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Speaker 28: to try and develop more friendly relationships. Unromodi will be

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Speaker 28: in Beijing at the end of next week. That's his

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Speaker 28: first visit to Beijing in about seven years. His invited

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Speaker 28: Vladimir Putin also to come and visit him in New Delhi.

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Speaker 28: And so what this is doing is it's sort of

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Speaker 28: driving India closer to China in particular. However, I think

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Speaker 28: there's a limit as to how far that's going to go,

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Speaker 28: because I don't think that India and China are really

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Speaker 28: going to be close friends. They have decades of animosity

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Speaker 28: between them. They've been close to having almost outright war

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Speaker 28: in Himalayas over their disputed borders several times. India doesn't

1885
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Speaker 28: trust China and China doesn't trust India either. And also

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Speaker 28: there's the added problem that Pakistan is a close ally

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Speaker 28: of India. India's providing money and aid and economic developments

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Speaker 28: of the Belt and Bode initiative to help Pakistan's economy.

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Speaker 28: It provides it with arms and weapons. And China has

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Speaker 28: made it clear that it wants to have relationships with

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Speaker 28: both Pakistan and India. But I don't think India is

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Speaker 28: really going to be too enamored with that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see there's a lot of problems. There

1894
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 4: are a lot of wrinkles to dine out have Peter,

1895
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Speaker 4: thank you as always. We'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 4: Look after yourself. Peter Lewis Asia Business correspondent, nineteen away

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Speaker 4: from seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Heither do for sel lot of pom for you.

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Speaker 4: The Kiwi is a strange bird. It cannot fly at all.

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01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 4: It has a very long beak, but its eyes are

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01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 4: very small. Unlike most other birds. It does not like

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01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 4: the sun, sleeps all day, comes out at night, and

1903
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 4: misses all the fun. Jackson, thank you. Some entirely possible.

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01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 4: Jackson actually wrote that himself now Donald Trump. Okay, so

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01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 4: and so and I have been to ands and I

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01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 4: are kind of quite into, like everybody should be into,

1907
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Speaker 4: what is going on here with this Putin Trump situation

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01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 4: Ukraine and stuff. And we're over analyzing it. But we've

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Speaker 4: both come to the conclusion that Putin has stuffed this

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Speaker 4: up and he is playing this very badly. What's happened

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Speaker 4: is just in the last few hours, like just earlier

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Speaker 4: this afternoon, Russia launched a missile strike on Ukraine. Has

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Speaker 4: a US owned company. That's a big mistake, right you

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Speaker 4: don't want to be hitting US owned companies when you're

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Speaker 4: just in the middle of this quite delicate situation right

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01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 4: now where you're trying to not piss Donald Trump off

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Speaker 4: and trying to figure out how you get yourself out

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Speaker 4: of the situation that you're in right now. But also

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump overnight went on truth social and slammed the

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Speaker 4: fact that Ukraine wasn't allowed up to now to fight

1921
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Speaker 4: Russia to the fullest extent possible. So what he said

1922
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Speaker 4: is it is very hard, if not impossible, to win

1923
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Speaker 4: a war without attacking an invaders country. It's like a

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01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 4: great team in sports that has a fantastic defense, but

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01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 4: is not allowed to play offense. There is no chance

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Speaker 4: of winningland. It is like that with Ukraine and Russia,

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Speaker 4: which is obviously the truth, right. Anybody who's been watching

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01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 4: this war has thought, well, how on earth is Ukraine

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Speaker 4: ever going to win if they have a restrictions placed

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Speaker 4: on them by countries like the US making it impossible

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Speaker 4: for them to actually strike Russia in the way that

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Speaker 4: they need to in order to win the war. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: the fact that Trump has now come around to this,

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Speaker 4: I think is reasonably interesting. But also what's much more

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Speaker 4: symbolic is the fact that he's put a picture on

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Speaker 4: this Trump post. Trump's a truth social post of himself

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Speaker 4: talking to Potin, but he has got his finger jabbed

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Speaker 4: in the middle of Putin's chest, So that's not looking

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Speaker 4: like they're terribly friendly anyway. All of these things, all

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Speaker 4: of these things suggest to me Potin is the one

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Speaker 4: who's especially because of the effort that was put in

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Speaker 4: by Europe in that meeting to kind of turn Putin

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Speaker 4: into the problem. It is entirely possible that Putin is

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Speaker 4: at the moment the problem according to Donald Trump. And

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Speaker 4: my feeling on this is that Poutin is actually the

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Speaker 4: one who's he's walking a very fine line here, and

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Speaker 4: he's been backed into a corner because he's taken Trumpet

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Speaker 4: out there on the world stage. There's been the Alaska meeting,

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Speaker 4: then there's been the White House meeting. If Putin now

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Speaker 4: digs Trump around too much, it will humiliate Trump because

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Speaker 4: Trump's been the guy's like, I'm going to get a deal.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to get a deal. I'm going to get

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Speaker 4: a deal. If he now doesn't get a deal because

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Speaker 4: Putin doesn't give him a deal, who do you think

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Speaker 4: he's going to be angry with? Who do you think

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Speaker 4: he's going to come after Putin? The old jab jabby

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Speaker 4: finger in the chest might just be the start of it.

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Speaker 4: Seventeen away from seven.

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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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Speaker 2: The Business Hour with head of Duplicy Ellen and maz

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Speaker 2: for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions News Talk sa'd.

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Speaker 4: Be Do you remember the guy that I was telling

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Speaker 4: I think it was a few weeks ago. I was

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Speaker 4: telling you about this chap who had faked faked a

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Speaker 4: CV said he got a you know, a doctorate of

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Speaker 4: law something from Yale. And there is an update on

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Speaker 4: this chap just wait for it. Fourteen away from seven

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Speaker 4: Gavin Gray, UK correspondent. It's with us now, Hello, Gavin,

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Speaker 4: good evening. Okay, what do we know about the bodies

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Speaker 4: in the river?

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Speaker 26: Yeah, fascinating. So right in the heart of Paris, the

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Speaker 26: River Saine of course flowing through there. Well, police have

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Speaker 26: discovered four bodies in the river Seine. The first victim

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Speaker 26: was spotted by a passer by near a bridge in

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Speaker 26: a southeastern suburb of the capitol just over a week ago,

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Speaker 26: and then we've now discovered that. Actually, then police set

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Speaker 26: up a search and discovered three more bodies immersed in

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Speaker 26: the nearby area. So police are questioning a man on

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Speaker 26: suspicion of murder. Prosecutor say one of the victims was

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Speaker 26: strangled and another showed violent injuries, and the suspect is

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Speaker 26: being held in a central Paris police station. We have

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Speaker 26: no details about him yet or how many murders he's

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Speaker 26: being questioned over, but it's thought that first body that

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Speaker 26: has been discovered had only been in the water a

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Speaker 26: short time, identified as a local forty year old, but

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Speaker 26: the three others had been in there quite a while

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Speaker 26: and were in an advanced state of decomposition. Sorry to

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Speaker 26: put you off your tea time dinner, but yeah, not

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Speaker 26: very pleasant at all. And as you can imagine, huge

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Speaker 26: investigations UNDERWAE.

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Speaker 4: So are we talking about serial killer stuff here?

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Speaker 26: Well, that's I mean, obviously that's what police and local

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Speaker 26: residents really fear. But we don't know how they've think

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Speaker 26: they're connected to the man that they've questioned. But yeah,

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Speaker 26: no doubt someone going work there.

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Speaker 4: So it turns out it might have been a Ukrainian

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Speaker 4: guy who blew up the guest pipelines.

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Speaker 26: Yes, this is very interesting because of course you'll remember

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Speaker 26: that when the pipelines gnawed Streamers they're called, which run

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Speaker 26: under the Baltic Sea connecting Russia to Europe. When they

2001
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Speaker 26: suddenly got blown up, everybody immediately pointed the finger at Russia. However,

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Speaker 26: it's now been suggested that a Ukrainian man has been

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Speaker 26: arrested in Italy in the province of Rhymony. He's not

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Speaker 26: been identified fully, just as Serqui k in Germany. The

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Speaker 26: names are kept anonymous for a while, and it was

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Speaker 26: said to be part of a plot who planted explosives

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Speaker 26: under those two pipelines nord Stream one nor Stream two

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Speaker 26: and the blast severed a key source of natural gas

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Speaker 26: for Europe, just when the leaders of Europe were facing

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Speaker 26: an energy crisis, triggered of course by Russia's war with Ukraine.

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Speaker 26: Now no one admitted carrying out the attack. Ukraine has

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Speaker 26: denied any state involvement and it would seem potentially odd

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Speaker 26: for them to have done anything at a state level

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Speaker 26: with this, So all sorts of questions about was this

2015
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Speaker 26: somebody acting alone or not? But either way, the several

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Speaker 26: explosions were recorded back in September twenty two, ruptured three

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Speaker 26: of the four pipelines, and it looks like the allegation

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Speaker 26: is that this man might have hired a boat, sailed

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Speaker 26: it out there and with some divers done this work.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, interesting stuff. Now listen, do you think it's going

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Speaker 4: to work? If they abolished the sales text on the

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Speaker 4: books and denmarkt people are going to start reading again.

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Speaker 1: Well, do you know?

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Speaker 26: I always thought, you know, Denmark, when you go very clear, spotless,

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Speaker 26: very good sort of state system, everything seems to work properly.

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Speaker 26: I was then staggered to read that. According to an

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Speaker 26: intergovernmental think tank, one in four Danish fifteen year olds

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Speaker 26: cannot understand a simple text in other words, they can't

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Speaker 26: really read, and they've now decided to scrap a sales

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Speaker 26: a sales tax on books which currently stands at twenty

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Speaker 26: five percent. In other words, books are more expensive in

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Speaker 26: Denmark than in many many other countries. The measure is

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Speaker 26: expected to cost the Danish economy only set of one

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Speaker 26: hundred million New Zealand dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: He says, only but in.

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Speaker 26: Other words, not huge when it comes to big government spending.

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Speaker 26: And they say they really hope this will encourage more

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Speaker 26: people to read. In Finland, Sweden and Norway they also

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Speaker 26: have a sort of tax on books like twenty five percent,

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Speaker 26: but they have a sort of lower levee on the

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Speaker 26: more serious end of books, so that comes down to

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Speaker 26: fourteen six zero percent. So that's now what Denmark is getting.

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Speaker 26: The mirror surveys show that the declining levels of reading

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Speaker 26: and comprehension among Danish teenagers is ongoing and getting worse,

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Speaker 26: and these numbers said to be pretty shocking that experts

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Speaker 26: fair will take a long time to reverse.

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Speaker 4: Gavin, thank you, I really appreciate it and enjoy a weekend.

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Speaker 4: Gavin Gray, UK correspondent. I felt slightly stumped just then

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Speaker 4: because I just copped a text from Greg Ant's listen

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Speaker 4: to this, Heather, Sometimes your synopsis is so good it

2051
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Speaker 4: borders on brilliance. And I thought, I thought, oh, you're

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Speaker 4: being sarcastic, aren't you, Greg? Well done you. But then

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Speaker 4: I saw the next text, keep up the good work,

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Speaker 4: always appreciated, thumbs up. That's at least part partly to you,

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Speaker 4: because you helped me come up with the putin theory

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Speaker 4: that we've come up with.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it.

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Speaker 15: I like how he said, sometimes you know, it doesn't

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Speaker 15: want us getting too big rich, is there?

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Speaker 4: Sometimes your synopsis is so good, sometimes it's so shit,

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Speaker 4: And that look, that's fair even I know that. All Right,

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Speaker 4: nine away from.

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Speaker 2: Seven, it's the Heather tops Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio powered by Newstalk zeb.

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Speaker 4: Right, this chap, I need to tell you about this chap.

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Speaker 4: You remember the chap I was telling you about who

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Speaker 4: was appointed to a visiting justice role by I feel

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Speaker 4: like it might have been Nicole McKee who did it. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: the role that he's got now allows him to visit

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Speaker 4: and inspect prisons and investigate prisoner treatment and stuff like

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Speaker 4: that is a reasonably high power, like reasonably high powered role.

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Speaker 4: But the problem was he had faked a CV and

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Speaker 4: he'd made all these claims and none of them were true,

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Speaker 4: including that he had a law degree from Yale, when

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Speaker 4: actually all he had done was a week long online

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Speaker 4: course during COVID that was provided by Yale. Anyway, here's

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Speaker 4: the update for you. He also went to COP twenty

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Speaker 4: eight and pretended that he worked for the New Zealand

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Speaker 4: Ministry of Foreign Foreign Affairs in Trade, which he didn't,

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Speaker 4: and then he sat in an area that he was

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Speaker 4: not supposed to be sitting in, and then he gave

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Speaker 4: an interview and was credited as being a staffer at

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Speaker 4: the New Zealand Foreign Affairs and Trade Ministry. And as

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Speaker 4: a result, they saw what was happening because they know

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Speaker 4: he doesn't work for them, so what was happening, revoked

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Speaker 4: his approval for him to have been there, and he

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01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:08,640
Speaker 4: wasn't allowed to be there anymore. Anyway. This is the

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Speaker 4: same guy who said he was going to resign from

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Speaker 4: his Visiting Justice position and he still hasn't.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: The reason I'm telling you this is because I am

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01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 4: fascinated by people like this, Like I just am fascinated

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Speaker 4: by people who have the hotspa to go out there

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01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 4: and just completely tell fibbs and get away with it

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Speaker 4: and and construct a whole life, a whole life on

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01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 4: lies and stuff. Well, am I accusing him of lying?

2097
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Speaker 4: I don't know. Try suing me. Let's see what happens.

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Speaker 4: Here's a I've got a poem and somebody who wrote

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Speaker 4: me a poem.

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 4: It's from Louise Heather. What a joy it is. Do

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Speaker 4: you hear you each day giving us the news in

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Speaker 4: your own special way. I love how you ask all

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Speaker 4: the tough questions to hold them to accounters. Of course,

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Speaker 4: your intention, your fun side, is your quirky sense of humor.

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Speaker 4: So keep up the great work for now in the

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Speaker 4: future a whole poetry day has just Louise is a star.

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Speaker 15: I don't know about the rhyme of future and humor,

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Speaker 15: but other than that, it was pretty top notch.

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Speaker 4: Better than what you did.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's a good point.

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Speaker 28: That's a very good point.

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Speaker 15: When the lights go out by five to play us

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Speaker 15: out tonight because this is the big music news of

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Speaker 15: the day. Five will be playing at the Trust Arena

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Speaker 15: in Auckland on May twenty fifth, twenty twenty six. Go

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Speaker 15: get your tickets.

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Speaker 4: Are you going to because it's actually gonna be a

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01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,600
Speaker 4: good time? You know it as a I believe it

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Speaker 4: or not.

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Speaker 15: The album that this is off, their self titled debut,

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Speaker 15: was the first CD I ever owned.

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Speaker 20: In my life.

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Speaker 15: But yeah, I don't know what ends.

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Speaker 4: I think it was the food CD I ever owned

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Speaker 4: my whole life. Oh, honestly, do you remember back in

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01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 4: the day you used to be able to do this

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01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 4: thing where you could subscribe to this club and you

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Speaker 4: needed to pay them every week, and then you get

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Speaker 4: cdcent to you and you could pick the ones. Right,

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Speaker 4: So this is the one I picked, and then I

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Speaker 4: had it for like a week or something, and then

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Speaker 4: I sent it all back and canceled.

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Speaker 11: No.

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Speaker 15: I listened to the CD quite a lot when I

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Speaker 15: was young, But no, I probably won't get to the show.

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Speaker 4: This was a good time. Oh do you want to

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Speaker 4: go with me in life?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Laura wants to come. Yep, we'll go. Actually yeah, well yeah, no, yeah,

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Speaker 4: let's do it. Let's do it. Why not, let's do it?

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Speaker 4: All right, you enjoy your weekend, We'll see you on Monday.

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Speaker 4: And you still said.

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Speaker 10: Bell show you what to me?

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Speaker 4: Soby got to me.

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Speaker 10: Work You Love Show.

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Speaker 2: For more from Hither Dupe Less Alan Drive, listen live

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Speaker 2: ap to news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays,

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