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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talk SEDB.

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Speaker 2: Your weekend starts right here.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News Talks Edby.

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Speaker 3: In New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Welcome to News Talks EDB. I'm Jack Tame

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Speaker 4: with you through the midday today. Honestly, it is eerily

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Speaker 4: quiet where I am this morning. I'm in Auckland waiting

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Speaker 4: for the storm to bear down on the upper part

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Speaker 4: trees in my backyard. It's kind of spooky knowing what's coming.

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Speaker 4: But wherever you are, if you even have a tiny

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Speaker 4: chance of being in the path of the storm, now

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Speaker 4: is the time to get moving. If you haven't got

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Speaker 4: organized already. There are heaps of taps up at NEWSTALKSHADB

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Speaker 4: dot co dot instead, all of the warnings from the

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Speaker 4: Met Service and the various authorities, plus advice on the

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Speaker 4: things you should have ready at your place, food, water, batteries,

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Speaker 4: all that good stuff. But now's the time to get

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Speaker 4: yourself organized. So if you've been putting things off, if

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Speaker 4: you've been busy over the last couple of days, about

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Speaker 4: twenty four hours at the moment, until the worst of

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Speaker 4: the storm is expected to be hitting the New Zealand coast.

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Speaker 4: We're going to keep you up to date, of course

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Speaker 4: on newstalks. He'd be throughout the day as we get

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Speaker 4: the time to act, So don't put it off. Don't

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Speaker 4: be blase, don't be that guy who says, oh, you know, oh,

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Speaker 4: this will just be nothing, this will just be nothing,

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Speaker 4: because if it's not nothing, you'll be so right busy

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Speaker 4: show for you this morning. Our feature INTERVW after ten

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Speaker 4: o'clock this morning is Robert England, aka the original Freddy

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Speaker 4: Krueger from A Nightmare on Elm Street. He's had this

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Speaker 4: kind of remarkable career in that he is a professionally

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Speaker 4: trained Shakespeareian actor who became one of the biggest names

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Speaker 4: in horror. And I'm going to ask him a little

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Speaker 4: bit about the kind of moment that horror films are

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Speaker 4: experiencing right now. You take a look at Sinners, for example,

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Speaker 4: and this year's Oscars. I think I think horror is

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Speaker 4: going through a bit of a moment, so I'm going

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Speaker 4: to ask him about that. Before ten o'clock. Cook has

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Speaker 4: a recipe a soup for a storm, just to you

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Speaker 4: organize for the next couple of days, A delicious, hearty,

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Speaker 4: healthy hot option if you are expecting things to be

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Speaker 4: pretty wild at your place. Right now, it's nine minutes

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Speaker 4: past nine, Jack Team, nine days, twenty two hours and

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Speaker 4: thirty two minutes. That's how long the Artemis two crew

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Speaker 4: has been away, and as we speak this morning, they

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Speaker 4: are entering the fire final critical hours of their mission,

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Speaker 4: all going well. By the time Jason Pine welcomes you

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Speaker 4: to Weekend Sport right after the meddanews on Newstalk Z'B

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Speaker 4: at about twelve o seven on the Dot, the capsule

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Speaker 4: will have just splashed down in the Pacific Ocean. The

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Speaker 4: four astronauts, who have traveled further from Earth than any

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Speaker 4: other human beings ever, will be fished out and whisked

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Speaker 4: off home to NASA and time for supper. As someone

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Speaker 4: who wasn't here for the Apollo missions, Artemis two, I

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Speaker 4: think represents the most exciting crude space mission of my life.

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Speaker 4: There have been other big moments, rescue missions, to the

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Speaker 4: that was fifth fifty four years ago. For me, I

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Speaker 4: think that's what is significant. When many of us think

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Speaker 4: But actually that is not what most astronauts see. I've

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Speaker 4: You've got to go even further. You've got to go

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Speaker 4: Artemists two didn't just travel ten thousand k's where you

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Speaker 4: So what are you doing right now? Can you just

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Speaker 4: That's how big the Earth would have been from four

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Speaker 4: they my answer was, well, maths, Maths is how they

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Speaker 4: humbling and profound. Jack ninety two ninety two is the

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Speaker 4: Jacket Newstalk said b dot co dot in set. And

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Speaker 4: storm and the forecast is affecting various sporting competitions over

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Speaker 4: So our Sporto will be in so and we'll have

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Speaker 4: your film picks for this weekend before ten o'clock as well.

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Speaker 4: But Kevin Milm will get us off for our Saturday

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Speaker 4: Jack Tame Saturday Morning and this is Newstalk's edby.

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Speaker 2: The best way to start your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Tam on newstorgs edby.

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Speaker 4: A team minutes past nine on news Talks EDB. Jack

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Speaker 4: speaking of maths, if you've seen the movie Hidden Figures,

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Speaker 4: True Space Race Story, absolutely amazing. I do find the

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Speaker 4: maths just staggering, you know, one of the This is

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Speaker 4: and I always think, sheesh, I imagine being charged with

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Speaker 5: I have, I have to some extent though There's been

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I do. I just find the geometry

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Speaker 4: just bananas that they really are amazing. But anyway, Kevin,

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Speaker 5: While the top of the news, well all around Iran

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Speaker 5: really this week and quite rightly and of course Artemus too.

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Speaker 5: it's from an upcoming album called The Boys of Dungeon Lane.

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Speaker 5: It's a sweet, simple song from the now eighty three

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Speaker 5: Paul McCartney's childhood in Dungeon Lane, Liverpool. My son Jake

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 4: Peter's just pointed out and remember Jack, just recall that

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Speaker 5: Go sev Jack.

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Speaker 9: I've been enthralled the last couple of weeks with this

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Speaker 4: The fact that there's no stars, and the photos.

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Speaker 9: And having learned about Neil Armstrong at school. Yeah, and

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Speaker 9: as sports concern is being played today. The football Ferns

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Speaker 4: That's insane. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, what are they selling?

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Speaker 4: The Landers missed a great opportunity last night.

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Speaker 4: after ten o'clock this morning. If you are just planning

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Speaker 4: Let's leve issues playing Coachella and Coachella's this weekend some

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Speaker 11: Us this morning.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Good morning. We have a couple of rather

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Speaker 4: So let's take a little bit of a listen. First,

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Speaker 12: Welcome to the Undertone podcast, where we talk about all

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Speaker 13: I'm your in.

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Speaker 12: House skeptic Evie Babbage, and my believer co host says

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Speaker 14: Today we're listening to ten sterious audio recordings from an

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Speaker 11: Are you when plying there's head and messages in it?

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Speaker 16: This one isn't for you, Jack. Yeah, a horror film

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Speaker 16: isn't something that you rush along. But both both the

431
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Speaker 16: films that I'm talking about today are from two new directors.

432
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Speaker 16: These are their featured debuts, and Undertone is really interesting.

433
00:24:36,453 --> 00:24:40,693
Speaker 16: A guy called Endoism has directed this. It has it's

434
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Speaker 16: an indie horror film. It's from the A twenty four

435
00:24:43,333 --> 00:24:48,093
Speaker 16: studios that likes to give us kind of unique, ambitious films,

436
00:24:48,173 --> 00:24:50,693
Speaker 16: and clearly this one was made on a budget. But

437
00:24:50,813 --> 00:24:54,893
Speaker 16: he's done a really good job of shooting this film,

438
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Speaker 16: which is essentially shot in one location with one on

439
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Speaker 16: screen actor. So the character we heard there, Ev is

440
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Speaker 16: played by Mena Kitty, and she's a podcaster on a

441
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Speaker 16: popular paranormal podcast. She has moved back home to nurse

442
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Speaker 16: her dying mother, who is pretty much entirely comatose the

443
00:25:13,253 --> 00:25:17,853
Speaker 16: whole film, so an important part, but not a big

444
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Speaker 16: speaking part. His partner in the podcast is Jason played

445
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Speaker 16: by Adam DeMarco, and he's living somewhere else, so they

446
00:25:26,453 --> 00:25:27,893
Speaker 16: sort of catch up in the middle of the night

447
00:25:27,973 --> 00:25:31,053
Speaker 16: to record these podcasts, and we only ever see his

448
00:25:31,293 --> 00:25:35,013
Speaker 16: voice come through online. They just connect online and they

449
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Speaker 16: have parts they play on the podcast as they say,

450
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Speaker 16: they were saying, Okay, let's get back into character. And

451
00:25:40,133 --> 00:25:43,653
Speaker 16: he's the believer and she's the skeep. Now when they're

452
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Speaker 16: recording this podcast, he has been sent a series of

453
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Speaker 16: audio files and they listen to them and try and

454
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Speaker 16: sort of decipher what's happening. And these files were recorded

455
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Speaker 16: by a couple called Mike and Jessa, and Mike's recording

456
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Speaker 16: Jessa because she sleep talks, but what he captures is

457
00:26:02,333 --> 00:26:06,333
Speaker 16: pretty creepy and haunting, and Jessa likes to sing chill

458
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Speaker 16: children's nursery.

459
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Speaker 4: Rhymes as a child.

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Speaker 16: Jason Jason Yeah, and wait, no way, Jason works out.

461
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Speaker 16: If you play them backwards, you'll find there are some

462
00:26:16,493 --> 00:26:20,613
Speaker 16: violent hidden messages, and as the film goes on, there

463
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Speaker 16: is some concern that they've unleashed a demon. What is

464
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Speaker 16: so this might sound quite familiar, sort of quite a

465
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Speaker 16: normal kind of horror set up, but you know, they've

466
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Speaker 16: just shot this really well. It's all about space and sound,

467
00:26:34,613 --> 00:26:38,133
Speaker 16: so the house makes it the film feel quite claustrophobic.

468
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Speaker 16: But the director is never just taking a normal angle.

469
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Speaker 16: There's always a shadow in the background and you're waiting

470
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Speaker 16: for something to appear, or he there's the angles they

471
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Speaker 16: choose show you something else in the house that you're going,

472
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Speaker 16: what should I be paying attention to? What's going to

473
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Speaker 16: happen here? He just creates this incredible tension through the

474
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Speaker 16: angles that he chooses to shoot this film. And then

475
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Speaker 16: there's the sound. Obviously, being a podcaster, a lot of

476
00:27:03,453 --> 00:27:06,333
Speaker 16: this is about the sound and things, but the new

477
00:27:06,573 --> 00:27:09,493
Speaker 16: the key uses and the way he uses the sound

478
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Speaker 16: and things or it's good, it's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to be.

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Speaker 16: Honest, it was a little unsatisfying because it sort of

481
00:27:16,933 --> 00:27:18,813
Speaker 16: ended and I was like, hang on what Okay, hang

482
00:27:18,853 --> 00:27:22,653
Speaker 16: on what's happened? And you can interpret it your own way.

483
00:27:23,653 --> 00:27:25,813
Speaker 16: And I like a director who isn't afraid to kind

484
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Speaker 16: of leave you a little bit, you know, on the

485
00:27:27,493 --> 00:27:29,973
Speaker 16: edge of your seat scratching your head, going what. But

486
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Speaker 16: I really I think this is pretty classy and I'm

487
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Speaker 16: really interested to see what he does next. Oh great

488
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Speaker 16: with a bigger budget.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, okay, so that's undertone, like you say it

490
00:27:38,173 --> 00:27:39,773
Speaker 4: might be a bit scary for me. I just don't

491
00:27:39,813 --> 00:27:44,253
Speaker 4: like feeling anxious unnecessarily. But a couple of points. First

492
00:27:44,293 --> 00:27:47,493
Speaker 4: of all, I do think that sound is the key

493
00:27:47,573 --> 00:27:48,733
Speaker 4: to a good horror film.

494
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Speaker 16: I think the audio y, yeah, but not the obvious

495
00:27:52,013 --> 00:27:55,933
Speaker 16: sound like there's a lot no silence. Sound Go, okay,

496
00:27:55,933 --> 00:27:58,413
Speaker 16: there's a jump right coming as a jump setting me

497
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Speaker 16: up for pearing through your fingers. Actually, the most fun

498
00:28:01,533 --> 00:28:02,813
Speaker 16: I had at that film was there were a couple

499
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Speaker 16: of girls sitting along and ask with and they were

500
00:28:05,093 --> 00:28:07,173
Speaker 16: just laughing, giggling their way through whole thing to get

501
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Speaker 16: rid of all the tension.

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Speaker 13: And I love that.

503
00:28:08,613 --> 00:28:10,413
Speaker 16: I always love watching them watch the film.

504
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Speaker 13: I love the film.

505
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Speaker 4: And second of all, just horror is going through such

506
00:28:14,013 --> 00:28:16,773
Speaker 4: a moment right now, such moment.

507
00:28:17,173 --> 00:28:19,453
Speaker 16: It has been for a while now, and you know,

508
00:28:19,493 --> 00:28:22,333
Speaker 16: they're making money off them. And here's another example. You

509
00:28:22,413 --> 00:28:26,453
Speaker 16: can create a pretty clever, relatively cheap film, cross your fingers.

510
00:28:26,493 --> 00:28:29,413
Speaker 16: I hope it becomes sort of, you know, becomes a

511
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Speaker 16: bit of a cult. And of course we've seeing them

512
00:28:30,933 --> 00:28:33,413
Speaker 16: recognize now the oscars. They're sort of you know, they've

513
00:28:33,453 --> 00:28:36,013
Speaker 16: grown up and being fully accepted to the you know,

514
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Speaker 16: the big filmmaker.

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Speaker 4: We've We've got Robert England aka Free Krueger on this

516
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Speaker 4: morning as our athlete. I'm going to ask him a

517
00:28:44,453 --> 00:28:47,213
Speaker 4: little bit about that, right, So that is undertone that

518
00:28:47,333 --> 00:28:50,573
Speaker 4: showing in cinemas, also showing in cinema something completely different,

519
00:28:50,613 --> 00:28:51,653
Speaker 4: the President's Cake.

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Speaker 16: So I just loved this. This is a film from

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Speaker 16: a director Hassan Hardi. He is an Iraqi filmmaker. He

522
00:28:59,613 --> 00:29:02,053
Speaker 16: took this film to the Sun Dance Lab and there

523
00:29:02,093 --> 00:29:05,093
Speaker 16: was a lot of interest in it. He was actually somebody.

524
00:29:05,333 --> 00:29:07,773
Speaker 16: People were actually offering to fully fund this film, but

525
00:29:07,813 --> 00:29:09,413
Speaker 16: it could not on the condition that it was not

526
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Speaker 16: shot in i Raq, and he turned them down. And

527
00:29:12,093 --> 00:29:14,893
Speaker 16: he got some really good, big name sort of producers

528
00:29:14,933 --> 00:29:16,973
Speaker 16: from Hollywood behind him and he went back to Iraq

529
00:29:17,013 --> 00:29:18,813
Speaker 16: and he managed to shoot this film. And I'm so

530
00:29:18,853 --> 00:29:22,493
Speaker 16: grateful he did, because this is a film that needs

531
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Speaker 16: to be seen within the community and the people and everything.

532
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Speaker 16: It's what makes this film. So the year is nineteen ninety,

533
00:29:32,653 --> 00:29:35,453
Speaker 16: the place is sort of descending into poverty. There's no

534
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Speaker 16: medicine basically because of the really strict youing sanctions which

535
00:29:38,573 --> 00:29:41,213
Speaker 16: have been put in place. But despite all this Sadam

536
00:29:41,253 --> 00:29:44,653
Speaker 16: Hussein has required all citizens to celebrate his birthday. And

537
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Speaker 16: at a local school there is this very threatening former

538
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Speaker 16: soldier turned teacher and he makes the kids draw lots

539
00:29:51,653 --> 00:29:53,333
Speaker 16: to work out he'll bring the juice and the fruit

540
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Speaker 16: for the celebration. And then one child gets the honor

541
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Speaker 16: of bringing a cake and it falls to this nine

542
00:29:58,533 --> 00:30:01,813
Speaker 16: year old girl, Lemia, and she basically lives in a

543
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Speaker 16: hut in the Southern Marshes with her grandmother baby, and

544
00:30:05,133 --> 00:30:08,253
Speaker 16: they are poor and struggling, really cannot make ends meet.

545
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Speaker 16: Let alone find that these ingredients and make this cake,

546
00:30:11,853 --> 00:30:14,093
Speaker 16: and we follow her go off on this journey. It's

547
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Speaker 16: presented in a documentary style, natural lighting, incredibly authentic performances

548
00:30:18,653 --> 00:30:22,693
Speaker 16: by pretty much inexperienced cast. They're all non actors, and

549
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Speaker 16: I just I just got taken into a place in

550
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Speaker 16: a time, and I was completely transported by this story

551
00:30:29,493 --> 00:30:32,533
Speaker 16: and the performances are absolutely fantastic. I just thought this

552
00:30:32,653 --> 00:30:35,453
Speaker 16: was a wonderful arthouse film, and I'm just so delighted

553
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Speaker 16: that he made it in his homeland, in the environment

554
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Speaker 16: and communities that he is telling us about and sharing

555
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Speaker 16: their experiences of living under a dictator.

556
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Speaker 4: Ah that's so good. I've send the trailer and it

557
00:30:46,333 --> 00:30:49,613
Speaker 4: does look really really special. So that's the President's cake

558
00:30:49,693 --> 00:30:52,413
Speaker 4: that's showing in cinemas now. Francesca's first film, the horror,

559
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Speaker 4: is called Undertone, and all of the details for both

560
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Speaker 4: of those movies will be up at newstalk setb dot

561
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Speaker 4: co dot NZ in a couple of minutes. Soup for

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00:31:01,613 --> 00:31:05,173
Speaker 4: a Storm a recipe that could not be more timely.

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Speaker 1: Right now it's ten, Well, you're heading out to start

564
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Speaker 1: your Saturday turn off Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Jay

565
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Speaker 1: on news Talk zedby.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much for sending me your messages this morning.

567
00:31:19,653 --> 00:31:20,973
Speaker 4: Got a great email here from Peter.

568
00:31:21,133 --> 00:31:21,773
Speaker 17: This is Jack.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely loved your opening comments this morning about Artemis two.

570
00:31:26,053 --> 00:31:29,573
Speaker 4: I've been ducking in and out on the NASA website

571
00:31:29,613 --> 00:31:34,293
Speaker 4: plotting Artemis's journey through space, and it's been a remarkable

572
00:31:34,293 --> 00:31:37,893
Speaker 4: thing to watch. Like you, it's crazy to imagine the

573
00:31:37,973 --> 00:31:41,573
Speaker 4: view that the astronauts have had from up there. It's yeah,

574
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Speaker 4: I just find it really staggering. It must just been

575
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Speaker 4: such a profound experience. Anyway, just after midday today is

576
00:31:46,173 --> 00:31:48,533
Speaker 4: when the scheduled to splash down in the Pacific. I

577
00:31:48,573 --> 00:31:51,773
Speaker 4: think they scooped them up. It's off the coast of California,

578
00:31:51,853 --> 00:31:53,573
Speaker 4: I think, And so they scoop them up and then

579
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Speaker 4: try and get them back to NASA HQ in Texas

580
00:31:57,253 --> 00:31:59,813
Speaker 4: just as soon as possible. Twelve minutes to ten on

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Speaker 4: Newstalk's He'd be coot, NICKI wix is here this morning?

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Speaker 4: Killed her?

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Speaker 18: Yes, good morning Jack.

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Speaker 4: Is it still kind of eerily quiet at your play?

585
00:32:07,013 --> 00:32:10,053
Speaker 18: Oh, my goodness, so eerily quiet. It really is the

586
00:32:10,093 --> 00:32:10,853
Speaker 18: calm before the.

587
00:32:10,813 --> 00:32:13,693
Speaker 4: Storm, breath of wind that is meant.

588
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Speaker 18: Yeah, and the sea is beautiful, beautiful clean way, that

589
00:32:17,893 --> 00:32:19,653
Speaker 18: sort of thing, and yet that's about.

590
00:32:19,413 --> 00:32:21,653
Speaker 17: To turn or so we so we succeed.

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Speaker 15: I would have to say, for the first.

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Speaker 18: Time, I am well prepped. You know, I have you know,

593
00:32:26,693 --> 00:32:29,933
Speaker 18: secured furniture. I have made sure that every power bank

594
00:32:29,973 --> 00:32:33,613
Speaker 18: I've got is all battery pack is all you know, charged.

595
00:32:33,333 --> 00:32:33,893
Speaker 15: Up and all that.

596
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Speaker 18: And so, yeah, it occurs to me that we are

597
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Speaker 18: we are adapting to this climate change, we're also at

598
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Speaker 18: the behest of it. So you know, my focus is

599
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Speaker 18: on making sure I've got enough soup.

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Speaker 4: Now, honestly, this is such a good idea. I'm really glad. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm you know, I mean there are you know, as

602
00:32:51,093 --> 00:32:53,333
Speaker 4: much as we love to, you know, have complex croc

603
00:32:53,413 --> 00:32:55,693
Speaker 4: and Bosh recipes and that kind of thing, it just

604
00:32:55,733 --> 00:32:58,253
Speaker 4: feels like this might be the weekend actually for something

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Speaker 4: that might tide you over for twenty four hours. If

606
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Speaker 4: you happen to boost will not help you this, yes, well,

607
00:33:03,933 --> 00:33:05,813
Speaker 4: I mean it will always help you. But whether.

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Speaker 18: For those listeners who don't know we're talking about that

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Speaker 18: beautiful high tower of profisseroles.

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Speaker 17: That's what Jack do was.

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Speaker 18: You're right, that could certainly comfort me. But look, I've

612
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Speaker 18: got a hearty.

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Speaker 17: Soup for us all.

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Speaker 18: And you know, even if you are not in the

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Speaker 18: line of this comment, in line for the cyclone, it's

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Speaker 18: going to help you out. What I love about having

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Speaker 18: a soup ready is that you can pop it in

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Speaker 18: furmaces as well. I do have butane and gas burners

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Speaker 18: and things like that that I can resort to. But

620
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Speaker 18: if you don't, like my dad, for example, we'll be

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Speaker 18: making sure that he's got some soup. So because it's

622
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Speaker 18: really nice. I think when things are dark and windy

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Speaker 18: and rainy and a little bit thought, it's nice to

624
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Speaker 18: have something warm. If the power goes out. There's nothing

625
00:33:47,613 --> 00:33:50,053
Speaker 18: like the comfort of that. So look souper easy. Big

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Speaker 18: pot on the stove. This is going to make you

627
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Speaker 18: about ten serves. It will be fine cold, much better hot.

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Speaker 15: This soup though, four tablespoons of.

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Speaker 18: Olive oil and then throwing our wonderful pillars of flavor.

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Speaker 18: A medium onion that you've diced, two carrots that you've

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Speaker 18: diced in, two stalks of celery you could use some

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Speaker 18: fea bold tube, have got some of that, and then

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Speaker 18: just sorte that for you know, sort of five to

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Speaker 18: ten minutes until those have softened, and then all we're

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Speaker 18: doing so it's a really cheap soup.

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Speaker 15: This as well.

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Speaker 18: We are adding in two liters of water and a

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Speaker 18: can of crushed tomatoes a four hundred and twenty grand.

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Speaker 18: They generally come and crush tomatoes, but tomatoes are really

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Speaker 18: cheap at the moment, gag. So I've used four to

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Speaker 18: six fresh tomatoes in this soup as well.

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Speaker 15: And a little trip that I.

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Speaker 18: Learned in Barcelona when we were filming little kitchens up

644
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Speaker 18: there was grate the tomatoes. Use a box grater and

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Speaker 18: just hold the tomato against the you know, the corner side,

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Speaker 18: and start grating and you end up with this beautiful

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Speaker 18: pole wow in your hand, and the palm of your hand,

648
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Speaker 18: you just end up with the whole skin of the tomato.

649
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Speaker 13: It's like magic, to.

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Speaker 4: Be totally clear. Do you'd have it on the on

651
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Speaker 4: the chunky side, of the chunky side, on the biggest

652
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Speaker 4: the one with the biggest holes.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, exactly.

654
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Speaker 18: Sometimes it's hard to get a bit of traction, but

655
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Speaker 18: once you do, you're way laughing. Yea, and yes, and

656
00:35:06,653 --> 00:35:09,333
Speaker 18: then and then I'll just cut up that skin, just

657
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Speaker 18: dice it up and put it in the cup as well.

658
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what any sentence that begins with a

659
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Speaker 4: little trick I picked up in Barcelona, dot dot dot.

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Speaker 4: You're just you're just slipping that in there for us

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Speaker 4: this morning, Mackie. We saw it.

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Speaker 18: It was not a trick to any Spanish person. They

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Speaker 18: all do it.

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Speaker 4: No, they know how to live. They've got their priority

665
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Speaker 4: sword and I'll do anything the Spanish suggest. Yeah, I

666
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Speaker 4: love it.

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Speaker 18: Chucking and Bai leaf Bailey's are great to have in

668
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Speaker 18: the house because they'll last for years. The borer and

669
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Speaker 18: the pantry moss don't seem to like them, but they're

670
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Speaker 18: so great. Bread in flavor bring all this to the

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Speaker 18: boil and the simma for about fifteen minutes, and then

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Speaker 18: we're going to add five big handfuls of pasta shells

673
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Speaker 18: or macaroni. So this is kind of like a Ministroni cel.

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Speaker 18: But this is all about comfort. It's all about sustenance.

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Speaker 18: So put that pastor in cook boiler soup for about

676
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Speaker 18: twelve minutes, and then you're going to add two cans

677
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Speaker 18: of mixed beans. I tend not to go for kidney

678
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Speaker 18: beans on their own.

679
00:36:05,053 --> 00:36:05,573
Speaker 15: I find them a.

680
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Speaker 18: Bit clunky, So you know, treat yourself to something nicer,

681
00:36:08,773 --> 00:36:12,013
Speaker 18: like a butter bean, a little pinto perhaps a mixture

682
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Speaker 18: of those. And I'm not great on chickpeas either.

683
00:36:15,453 --> 00:36:17,053
Speaker 15: So what whatever is your fancy?

684
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Speaker 18: Throw that and you want to heat that until that's

685
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Speaker 18: heated through, and then I would be storing this in

686
00:36:21,533 --> 00:36:24,213
Speaker 18: a couple of big sermaces if I was you or else,

687
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Speaker 18: Just have it on hand ready to heat up if

688
00:36:27,093 --> 00:36:29,613
Speaker 18: your power goes out and you've got a gas burner.

689
00:36:29,693 --> 00:36:32,573
Speaker 18: Season it really well with salt and pepper. Fin it

690
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Speaker 18: down with a bit more water. If it's a bit

691
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Speaker 18: more like a stew than a soup, you can garnish

692
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Speaker 18: it with anything. You could add schalizza or bacon. If

693
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Speaker 18: you wanted to enrich it, you could serve it with

694
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Speaker 18: cheese on top. You could also add other sorts of

695
00:36:43,933 --> 00:36:50,533
Speaker 18: frozen vegetables and peas. But the simplicity absolutely is out

696
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Speaker 18: of proportion with the amount of heartiness that you get

697
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Speaker 18: into the soup, which doesn't take that.

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Speaker 13: Long to coxe.

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Speaker 4: It's such an option today people. No, I think it's

700
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Speaker 4: a fantastic idea. You could chuck that in a thermosa

701
00:37:01,613 --> 00:37:03,933
Speaker 4: like you could just you could be prepped up. So

702
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Speaker 4: if you're losing power at your place, No, I think

703
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Speaker 4: it sounds other.

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Speaker 18: Things that I would say to people's have some sandwich

705
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Speaker 18: fixings on hand just in case things tuned to custard.

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Speaker 15: Those are great.

707
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Speaker 18: Oh yeah, if you don't lose power, then you'll love

708
00:37:15,133 --> 00:37:17,373
Speaker 18: a you'll love a toasted sandwich. But if you do,

709
00:37:17,493 --> 00:37:21,453
Speaker 18: it's really great to have some cheese, some solami, some hands.

710
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Speaker 13: Yeah, all that sort of thing.

711
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Speaker 18: Power, if we lucky, doesn't tend to go out for

712
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Speaker 18: too long, So keep those fridges and freezes, only open

713
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Speaker 18: them as needed, all that sort of thing. But yeah,

714
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Speaker 18: a good soup, we'll see you through. A good sandwich.

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Speaker 18: You'll see you through in a toasted sandwich will just

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Speaker 18: be a bonus on jop.

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Speaker 4: Very good. All right, love that so much, Nikki. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: We'll make sure the recipes at newstalks hedb dot co

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Speaker 4: dot z. You stay safe this weekend and we will

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Speaker 4: catch you again very soon.

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Speaker 1: Where the weekend finds its rhythm. Saturday morning with Jack

722
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Speaker 1: team on News talks'b.

723
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Speaker 4: And it's just coming up to ten o'clock on News Talks.

724
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Speaker 4: He'd be after ten. We're going to catch up with

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Speaker 4: that texpert about a story that many nerds reckon. Is

726
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Speaker 4: the biggest story in artificial intelligence this year. This new

727
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Speaker 4: AI model that has been produced by Anthropic has been

728
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Speaker 4: found to discover vulnerabilities and security problems in some of

729
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Speaker 4: the most important software powering our world today. So they

730
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Speaker 4: haven't released it publicly, but they say this AI model

731
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Speaker 4: is so good it can go through some of the

732
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Speaker 4: most important software we all use every day without thinking

733
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Speaker 4: about it and find massive security problems. So this could

734
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Speaker 4: have huge implications for banking, for anything that requires a password,

735
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Speaker 4: for the Internet as a whole, for the world. So

736
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Speaker 4: we're going to talk to our texpert about that and

737
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Speaker 4: don't forget right after the news our feature interview this

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Speaker 4: Saturday morning. Robert England. He trained as the Shakespearian actor

739
00:38:50,493 --> 00:38:54,493
Speaker 4: and found international fame. It's Freddy Krueger. He's making his

740
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Speaker 4: way to New Zealand. He'll be with us right after

741
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Speaker 4: the news. News is next though it's almost ten o'clock

742
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Speaker 4: as Saturday morning. I've jack tame this his news doorg.

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Speaker 1: ZDB sweet ass listening for your Saturday Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: Whe It's Jack Day on New Stork's.

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Speaker 4: V Yard and New Zealand. You're a jactaime on Newstalks

746
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Speaker 4: V through the midday today. Horror is dominating cinema right now.

747
00:39:39,333 --> 00:39:41,973
Speaker 4: The horror genre was the biggest winner at this year's Oscars,

748
00:39:41,973 --> 00:39:45,613
Speaker 4: with the film Sinners taking a record sixteen nominations, as

749
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Speaker 4: well as Frankenstein and Weapons getting their respective nods, and

750
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Speaker 4: a man who will forever be synonymous with the genre

751
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Speaker 4: as the character of Free Krueger is Robert England. Although

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Speaker 4: Robert has long since hung up his fedora striped sweater

753
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Speaker 4: and razor fingered gloves, he's still involved in hugely influential

754
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Speaker 4: thriller and horror projects. He's appeared in over eighty feature

755
00:40:08,013 --> 00:40:12,453
Speaker 4: films and was most recently involved in Netflix Juggernaut Stranger Things.

756
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Speaker 4: Robert is coming to New Zealand very soon to meet

757
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Speaker 4: his fans at the Armageddon Expo, and he's with us

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Speaker 4: this morning. Gilda, Good morning.

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Speaker 8: Well, good morning Jack.

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Speaker 14: It is great to.

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Speaker 4: Be speaking with you ahead of your New Zealand appearance.

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Speaker 4: But I've got to start with Halloween twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: And it felt like, for whatever reason, the universe had

764
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Speaker 4: decent timing because Freddy Krueger got his star on the

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Speaker 4: Hollywood Walk of Fame on the thirty first of October.

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Speaker 5: How was that?

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, I sort of managed that a little bit.

768
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Speaker 8: When I was notified that I was going to be honored,

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Speaker 8: I was told the other honorees for the year, and

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Speaker 8: one of them was John Carpenter, the great director John Carpenter,

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Speaker 8: and I figured, well, naturally John Carpenter will take the

772
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Speaker 8: Halloween date, you know, because of the Halloween franchise. Well

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Speaker 8: he didn't. He opted to get his star in the spring.

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Speaker 8: So I said, please, sir, you know more Porridge, I'd

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Speaker 8: be happy, happy to be honored on Halloween because it

776
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Speaker 8: would dovetail with thematically with me being a horror actor.

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Speaker 8: And also we have a tradition on Hollywood Boulevard and

778
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Speaker 8: the adjacent West Hollywood there's a huge Halloween parade and

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Speaker 8: there's huge costume cosplay, as we call it here in

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Speaker 8: the States. People dress up and they sort of take

781
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Speaker 8: over the streets in that part of town. So I

782
00:41:48,173 --> 00:41:50,933
Speaker 8: knew that that festival always goes on for Halloween. I

783
00:41:50,933 --> 00:41:54,333
Speaker 8: figured it would be great to kind of bleed no pun,

784
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Speaker 8: intended into that with my ceremony.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think at the time you mentioned being cemented

786
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Speaker 4: into American popular culture, I think we can kind of

787
00:42:04,333 --> 00:42:05,733
Speaker 4: broaden it out from there. I think you can be

788
00:42:05,773 --> 00:42:08,893
Speaker 4: cemented into global popular culture. But when you look back,

789
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Speaker 4: was there a single moment that you realized Freddy had

790
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Speaker 4: escaped the movies and become something bigger.

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Speaker 8: Well, there was a couple, you know. I saw a

792
00:42:20,893 --> 00:42:27,413
Speaker 8: Hell's Angel in November of eighty four. I was doing

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Speaker 8: a big holiday parade, you know, for my network then

794
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Speaker 8: NBC in Hollywood. They were the network that I had

795
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Speaker 8: a television show on, and I was promoting, still promoting

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Speaker 8: this hit television series. I had a science fiction show

797
00:42:44,813 --> 00:42:49,853
Speaker 8: back then called V for Visitors, and I was at

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Speaker 8: the end of the parade, I took off my little

799
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Speaker 8: bow tie and my suspenders that my character wore. I

800
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Speaker 8: was sort of this malapropping benign alien and I was

801
00:43:02,373 --> 00:43:05,253
Speaker 8: getting a lot of fan mail, and I was kind

802
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Speaker 8: of going international with a success from this show. And

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00:43:09,213 --> 00:43:13,173
Speaker 8: this Hell's Angel pulled up on a Harley Davidson extended

804
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Speaker 8: fork motorcycle and he got off and he took off

805
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Speaker 8: his shirt and he pulled his pants down to his

806
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Speaker 8: knees and he had a massive anime styled a Japanese

807
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Speaker 8: mafia yakuza anime tattoo of Freddy and Jason wrestling, and

808
00:43:36,053 --> 00:43:39,333
Speaker 8: it went all around his torso and down to his

809
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Speaker 8: knees and his buttocks and his back and his arms

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Speaker 8: down to the elbows, and it kind of moved with

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Speaker 8: his muscles as he moved, and I thought, my gun,

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Speaker 8: I said, I'm really part of some subculture here that

813
00:43:54,613 --> 00:43:57,013
Speaker 8: I'm not that familiar with, you know, because it was

814
00:43:57,093 --> 00:44:01,653
Speaker 8: really crossing over between biker culture and heavy metal and

815
00:44:01,773 --> 00:44:06,853
Speaker 8: punk rock and tattoo and goth and even as far

816
00:44:06,973 --> 00:44:10,533
Speaker 8: back as then, a little bit of anime interest, you know,

817
00:44:10,613 --> 00:44:13,133
Speaker 8: because it was in that style, you know, on this

818
00:44:13,213 --> 00:44:18,173
Speaker 8: American you know, biker and I sort of knew then.

819
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Speaker 8: And and then I was in Europe for a nightmare,

820
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Speaker 8: I mean, for V again in Italy, accepting an award

821
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Speaker 8: from my television series. And I was in Milan, and

822
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Speaker 8: I literally we pulled up in the limousine, my girlfriend

823
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Speaker 8: and I and I opened a door to let her out,

824
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Speaker 8: and I was yanked off my feet and passed over

825
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Speaker 8: the crowd like I was in some punk rock mosh pit,

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Speaker 8: you know, in front of La Scala, you know, the

827
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Speaker 8: famed ancient opera house of Milan, Italy, and I and

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Speaker 8: all the chance the fans were chanting Freddie, Freddie, Freddie.

829
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Speaker 8: And I was there for an entirely different project. And

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00:45:03,853 --> 00:45:08,493
Speaker 8: this was very early on in in the franchise history.

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Speaker 8: I don't even think we'd made Part two yet, so

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Speaker 8: I'm going to say maybe early eighty five that I

833
00:45:16,013 --> 00:45:19,413
Speaker 8: was there, And that also made me realize that it

834
00:45:19,493 --> 00:45:23,173
Speaker 8: was international and that it had this life of its own,

835
00:45:23,453 --> 00:45:26,853
Speaker 8: you know, you know, in a foreign country. I literally,

836
00:45:27,013 --> 00:45:30,133
Speaker 8: I'm not kidding, I was jet lagged, and you know,

837
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Speaker 8: they shut her all the buildings, they shut her all

838
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Speaker 8: the shops. So I went to a local park at dawn.

839
00:45:38,093 --> 00:45:41,973
Speaker 8: I couldn't sleep anymore. And this is before I had

840
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Speaker 8: been yanked out of the car. But I was in

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Speaker 8: this park with a zoo at down, and I will,

842
00:45:47,213 --> 00:45:50,173
Speaker 8: I'll wander over and look at the zoo animals. I'm

843
00:45:50,213 --> 00:45:52,573
Speaker 8: not a big fan of zoos, but I was. I

844
00:45:52,573 --> 00:45:56,853
Speaker 8: couldn't sleep. And there were nobody in the park, beautiful

845
00:45:57,373 --> 00:46:01,013
Speaker 8: urban park in Milan, and there was no one there

846
00:46:01,293 --> 00:46:05,133
Speaker 8: except for the grandmothers. And the grandmothers were all there

847
00:46:05,573 --> 00:46:09,573
Speaker 8: with their grand children in the perambulators, in the baby

848
00:46:09,613 --> 00:46:13,773
Speaker 8: carriages being walked, you know, giving giving the young mothers,

849
00:46:13,893 --> 00:46:17,213
Speaker 8: you know, a respite from motherhood. And and the grandmother's

850
00:46:17,253 --> 00:46:19,813
Speaker 8: getting up early because old people get up early and

851
00:46:19,853 --> 00:46:24,853
Speaker 8: pushing the babies around the park. And the grandmothers recognized me,

852
00:46:25,493 --> 00:46:28,693
Speaker 8: and they knew my name, and and I literally a

853
00:46:28,733 --> 00:46:31,813
Speaker 8: couple of them pinched my cheeks and said, mom me,

854
00:46:32,573 --> 00:46:35,933
Speaker 8: you know, and they but it was they were saying, Fred,

855
00:46:36,533 --> 00:46:39,533
Speaker 8: you know, it's free. Because the Italians have a great

856
00:46:40,053 --> 00:46:43,173
Speaker 8: tradition of horror movies. They don't they're not judge them,

857
00:46:43,333 --> 00:46:46,853
Speaker 8: they're not judgmental about them. They just think they're another

858
00:46:47,293 --> 00:46:50,533
Speaker 8: genre like the Western or the science fiction movie or

859
00:46:50,573 --> 00:46:54,493
Speaker 8: the romantic comedy. And that was my other inkling. You

860
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Speaker 8: know that that I the horror movies and science fiction

861
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Speaker 8: projects travel they sort of speak that international language of film.

862
00:47:05,613 --> 00:47:07,973
Speaker 4: You listening to the time on Newstalks, he'd be I

863
00:47:08,013 --> 00:47:13,053
Speaker 4: am speaking too, Freddy Krueger himself. Robert England is here

864
00:47:13,453 --> 00:47:17,213
Speaker 4: for the Amagidon Expo. You know, it feels like horror

865
00:47:17,213 --> 00:47:19,973
Speaker 4: films are going through a bit of a moment right now.

866
00:47:20,333 --> 00:47:22,133
Speaker 4: You know, you look at the success of the likes

867
00:47:22,133 --> 00:47:23,293
Speaker 4: of Sinners.

868
00:47:23,453 --> 00:47:27,253
Speaker 8: And you know, well, you know, I'm so proud of

869
00:47:27,413 --> 00:47:31,453
Speaker 8: Sinners for kind of being one of the first horror

870
00:47:31,893 --> 00:47:35,333
Speaker 8: films since Silence of the Lambs and then and half

871
00:47:35,373 --> 00:47:39,733
Speaker 8: before that, perhaps Rosemary's Baby to really kind of be

872
00:47:40,213 --> 00:47:45,053
Speaker 8: taken seriously at it at its at its time by

873
00:47:45,053 --> 00:47:47,333
Speaker 8: the Academy. And I've been a member of the Academy

874
00:47:48,333 --> 00:47:54,453
Speaker 8: since nineteen seventy five. But it's just great that that happens.

875
00:47:54,493 --> 00:47:58,133
Speaker 8: I know that there's a sort of feeling that the

876
00:47:58,253 --> 00:48:03,333
Speaker 8: Academy does not respect comedy and horror as much as genres.

877
00:48:03,773 --> 00:48:09,253
Speaker 8: But I you know, Sinners was such an amazing amalgam

878
00:48:10,053 --> 00:48:13,893
Speaker 8: a mashup, you know, like almost like a graphic novel

879
00:48:13,973 --> 00:48:18,173
Speaker 8: that came alive for me. And so many things were

880
00:48:18,213 --> 00:48:21,133
Speaker 8: going on in that movie, whether they were about either

881
00:48:21,173 --> 00:48:25,893
Speaker 8: politically about race or about the organic nature of the

882
00:48:25,933 --> 00:48:29,973
Speaker 8: growth of music and the evolution of music in America

883
00:48:30,693 --> 00:48:35,573
Speaker 8: and the influences of the Irish and the black influence

884
00:48:35,693 --> 00:48:38,973
Speaker 8: to music, and then and then it's just totally mutated

885
00:48:39,013 --> 00:48:42,653
Speaker 8: into a vampire film, and I was like, Okay, sign

886
00:48:42,733 --> 00:48:47,053
Speaker 8: me up. This wonderful, wonderful acting in that movie. So

887
00:48:47,133 --> 00:48:50,973
Speaker 8: many terrific performances in that movie.

888
00:48:51,093 --> 00:48:53,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so Sinners.

889
00:48:53,533 --> 00:48:59,213
Speaker 8: Really, I think Sinners has really begun another kind of renaissance.

890
00:49:00,093 --> 00:49:02,253
Speaker 8: I was I sort of thought for a minute there

891
00:49:02,293 --> 00:49:07,093
Speaker 8: that maybe all the zombie projects had sort of exhausted

892
00:49:07,773 --> 00:49:10,893
Speaker 8: the audience, you know, for a while. But you know,

893
00:49:11,493 --> 00:49:15,093
Speaker 8: Sinners was so fresh and so wonderful. And we have

894
00:49:15,133 --> 00:49:17,493
Speaker 8: another one out. I don't know if it's out in

895
00:49:17,613 --> 00:49:21,493
Speaker 8: New Zealand yet, but you must see it. It's called Weapons,

896
00:49:23,093 --> 00:49:27,733
Speaker 8: and it's just so original and it completely fakes you out,

897
00:49:28,253 --> 00:49:33,373
Speaker 8: and it just has a gangbuster performance from Ed Harris's wife,

898
00:49:33,413 --> 00:49:36,693
Speaker 8: Amy Madigan. She won the Oscar this year, but you know,

899
00:49:36,813 --> 00:49:40,773
Speaker 8: Amy's been around forever. Most audiences know her from Field

900
00:49:40,813 --> 00:49:45,013
Speaker 8: of Dreams with Kevin Costner, but she's just rock and

901
00:49:45,213 --> 00:49:48,573
Speaker 8: roll spectacular in weapons. So you should all check it

902
00:49:48,613 --> 00:49:50,533
Speaker 8: out if you're fans of the genre.

903
00:49:51,013 --> 00:49:53,333
Speaker 4: It's funny, like you said, there's a bit of a renaissance,

904
00:49:53,373 --> 00:49:57,573
Speaker 4: and maybe there has been a kind of underlying sense

905
00:49:57,733 --> 00:50:00,653
Speaker 4: that some people turn their noses at horror films a

906
00:50:00,693 --> 00:50:03,333
Speaker 4: little bit. But you know, they might have assumed that

907
00:50:03,333 --> 00:50:07,053
Speaker 4: horror actors, for example, just show up and snap. But

908
00:50:07,173 --> 00:50:10,533
Speaker 4: you trying it, Rada, You did ShakespeRe, So how much

909
00:50:10,573 --> 00:50:13,093
Speaker 4: of that classical background is actually in Freddy Krueger.

910
00:50:14,533 --> 00:50:17,493
Speaker 8: Well, you know what that does for you when you're

911
00:50:17,573 --> 00:50:20,733
Speaker 8: trained as an actor like that. What it does is

912
00:50:20,773 --> 00:50:23,893
Speaker 8: it gives you technique if you need it. It gives

913
00:50:23,973 --> 00:50:28,253
Speaker 8: you help if you require it. And actors don't always

914
00:50:28,373 --> 00:50:31,413
Speaker 8: need it, because sometimes you read a script and you

915
00:50:31,453 --> 00:50:34,333
Speaker 8: can see yourself in that role in your mind's eye,

916
00:50:34,813 --> 00:50:39,173
Speaker 8: and that makes preparation a lot easier and memorization easier,

917
00:50:39,653 --> 00:50:46,613
Speaker 8: and the actual rehearsal and performance easier. But sometimes there's scenes,

918
00:50:47,293 --> 00:50:51,453
Speaker 8: or there's roles we get. I sometimes get parts I

919
00:50:51,453 --> 00:50:53,853
Speaker 8: can't believe they want me, you know, for these roles.

920
00:50:54,173 --> 00:50:56,693
Speaker 8: I don't feel like I'm right for it. And this

921
00:50:56,773 --> 00:50:59,173
Speaker 8: goes way back, you know, this goes back to when

922
00:50:59,213 --> 00:51:02,653
Speaker 8: I was like eighteen or nineteen, and so then you

923
00:51:02,733 --> 00:51:06,573
Speaker 8: have this technique to rely on. It's an opening. It's

924
00:51:06,613 --> 00:51:11,453
Speaker 8: like a door that opens for preparation. So that's part

925
00:51:11,493 --> 00:51:15,973
Speaker 8: of it. What happened for me playing Freddy was I

926
00:51:16,053 --> 00:51:21,253
Speaker 8: had discarded a lot of my theatrical tricks, a lot

927
00:51:21,293 --> 00:51:24,413
Speaker 8: of stuff that I could do in the theater with

928
00:51:24,453 --> 00:51:29,613
Speaker 8: my voice and with my face and physically some of

929
00:51:29,653 --> 00:51:33,173
Speaker 8: my physical acting. I had to put that on simmer

930
00:51:33,653 --> 00:51:38,533
Speaker 8: on camera because on camera, you know, there's a formula

931
00:51:38,613 --> 00:51:41,813
Speaker 8: there as well, right, and sometimes you want to air

932
00:51:42,013 --> 00:51:46,693
Speaker 8: in the direction of simplicity. But there's also that problem

933
00:51:46,693 --> 00:51:48,933
Speaker 8: of there's a little voice going off in your head

934
00:51:49,013 --> 00:51:52,493
Speaker 8: going don't act, don't act, don't get caught acting whatever

935
00:51:52,533 --> 00:51:56,413
Speaker 8: you do. And that's really frustrating too, because when you're

936
00:51:56,493 --> 00:52:00,013
Speaker 8: really allowed to perform and really allowed to act, it's

937
00:52:00,253 --> 00:52:03,053
Speaker 8: very liberating. And when I was covered with all of

938
00:52:03,053 --> 00:52:08,013
Speaker 8: that foam latex and all of that adhesive, the glue

939
00:52:08,053 --> 00:52:11,253
Speaker 8: they used to attach it to me, and I had

940
00:52:11,293 --> 00:52:14,493
Speaker 8: that all on, I didn't worry about my thinning hair,

941
00:52:14,853 --> 00:52:17,453
Speaker 8: and I didn't worry about my good side or my

942
00:52:17,613 --> 00:52:20,853
Speaker 8: bad side. And I was able to change my voice,

943
00:52:21,093 --> 00:52:23,733
Speaker 8: and I was able to move differently than Robert England

944
00:52:23,733 --> 00:52:28,893
Speaker 8: would normally move on film, because Freddie occupies this sort

945
00:52:28,933 --> 00:52:35,253
Speaker 8: of surreal imagination landscape of the dream of the nightmare,

946
00:52:36,413 --> 00:52:39,333
Speaker 8: you know, in the subconscious. He's not really walking around

947
00:52:39,333 --> 00:52:42,653
Speaker 8: on the streets. And so I was able to I

948
00:52:42,693 --> 00:52:44,973
Speaker 8: don't want to, I don't like to use the word dance,

949
00:52:45,453 --> 00:52:48,493
Speaker 8: but I was able to physicalize him more, kind of

950
00:52:48,573 --> 00:52:52,493
Speaker 8: paint him into the frame of the imagination of whoever

951
00:52:52,613 --> 00:52:55,893
Speaker 8: was having a nightmare about him. And that was really liberating.

952
00:52:55,893 --> 00:52:59,853
Speaker 8: And when I got done with the nightmare movies, I

953
00:52:59,973 --> 00:53:02,333
Speaker 8: found that when I did, and I was still doing

954
00:53:02,373 --> 00:53:04,533
Speaker 8: a lot of horror movies, because by now I was

955
00:53:04,653 --> 00:53:08,853
Speaker 8: established as a horror a genre star. But what I

956
00:53:08,933 --> 00:53:12,373
Speaker 8: was doing the ones out of makeup, playing an old scientist,

957
00:53:12,453 --> 00:53:16,653
Speaker 8: you know, or a psychiatrist, or an old priest, or

958
00:53:16,653 --> 00:53:21,693
Speaker 8: a you know, a mad doctor or something. When I

959
00:53:21,733 --> 00:53:25,373
Speaker 8: got those roles, the sort of vincent price roles I was,

960
00:53:25,533 --> 00:53:29,693
Speaker 8: I had been liberated from playing Freddie, and I found

961
00:53:29,773 --> 00:53:33,813
Speaker 8: other parts of me and more courage, you know, with

962
00:53:34,053 --> 00:53:38,573
Speaker 8: accents and with my behavior on camera. So you know,

963
00:53:38,693 --> 00:53:42,653
Speaker 8: the playing Freddie for all those years was actually a

964
00:53:42,813 --> 00:53:45,013
Speaker 8: very liberating thing for me, and it kind of gave

965
00:53:45,053 --> 00:53:49,853
Speaker 8: me a career on the other side that I know

966
00:53:49,973 --> 00:53:53,173
Speaker 8: I wouldn't normally have had because I had been established

967
00:53:53,213 --> 00:53:54,253
Speaker 8: as a genre star.

968
00:53:54,573 --> 00:53:56,933
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, look at it is such a pleaser to speak.

969
00:53:56,973 --> 00:53:59,293
Speaker 4: We are so excited to have you in New Zealand, Robert,

970
00:53:59,373 --> 00:54:01,813
Speaker 4: travel safely and we look forward to seeing you in person.

971
00:54:02,933 --> 00:54:06,093
Speaker 8: Well, thank you so much. You know, New Zealand is

972
00:54:06,133 --> 00:54:08,773
Speaker 8: the home of a couple of my favorite actors, Tomorrow

973
00:54:08,813 --> 00:54:12,853
Speaker 8: Morrison and Cliff Curtis, and of course you know all

974
00:54:12,933 --> 00:54:16,813
Speaker 8: my friends and I worshiped Flight of the Concords and

975
00:54:17,653 --> 00:54:21,093
Speaker 8: all the wonderfully funny young actors on that And I've

976
00:54:21,093 --> 00:54:24,693
Speaker 8: been to your paradise before and I'm looking forward to

977
00:54:25,253 --> 00:54:28,173
Speaker 8: coming back to Auckland and maybe sneaking over on the

978
00:54:28,213 --> 00:54:31,973
Speaker 8: ferry to Davenport for a nice meal. Anyway, thanks for

979
00:54:32,053 --> 00:54:35,733
Speaker 8: talking with me, and I hope to see everybody at Armageddon.

980
00:54:36,213 --> 00:54:38,293
Speaker 4: We really look forward to it. Thanks so much, Robert.

981
00:54:38,293 --> 00:54:39,773
Speaker 4: You take care and we'll see you very soon.

982
00:54:40,933 --> 00:54:42,013
Speaker 8: Thank you, Bye bye.

983
00:54:42,253 --> 00:54:45,813
Speaker 4: So good. There's Robert England aka Freddy Krueger. He will

984
00:54:45,813 --> 00:54:47,893
Speaker 4: be at Armageddon this year. All the details will be

985
00:54:47,973 --> 00:54:50,133
Speaker 4: up on the news talks. He'd be website now before

986
00:54:50,293 --> 00:54:54,333
Speaker 4: eleven o'clock. We are in the garden talking dahlias. Now

987
00:54:54,453 --> 00:54:57,693
Speaker 4: is the time to pick what you might be planting

988
00:54:58,013 --> 00:55:00,293
Speaker 4: very very soon. So we've got our man in the

989
00:55:00,333 --> 00:55:04,533
Speaker 4: garden's top advice, his top varietals. He's got some beautiful

990
00:55:04,533 --> 00:55:05,973
Speaker 4: photos that he sent through as well that I'll make

991
00:55:06,013 --> 00:55:08,173
Speaker 4: sure go up on the website. And as well as

992
00:55:08,173 --> 00:55:11,773
Speaker 4: that our texpert with his thoughts on this extraordinary new

993
00:55:11,853 --> 00:55:16,653
Speaker 4: AI model whose creators are warning has discovered all sorts

994
00:55:16,693 --> 00:55:20,453
Speaker 4: of vulnerabilities in some of the most important software in

995
00:55:20,493 --> 00:55:22,653
Speaker 4: the world. So what will it mean for the Internet

996
00:55:22,693 --> 00:55:25,733
Speaker 4: if this is ever released for the general public. We'll

997
00:55:25,733 --> 00:55:28,133
Speaker 4: get his thoughts on that. Next up, though, your screen

998
00:55:28,173 --> 00:55:30,733
Speaker 4: time picks for this weekend, A couple of fantastic shows

999
00:55:30,733 --> 00:55:32,613
Speaker 4: to watch from the comfort of your place. It's twenty

1000
00:55:32,613 --> 00:55:33,333
Speaker 4: three past ten.

1001
00:55:34,693 --> 00:55:38,413
Speaker 1: Your weekend stance right here Saturday morning with Jack tam

1002
00:55:38,693 --> 00:55:39,893
Speaker 1: on Newstalk ZEDB.

1003
00:55:40,653 --> 00:55:43,333
Speaker 4: Twenty six past ten on Newstorks ZEDB. Jack, how are

1004
00:55:43,333 --> 00:55:46,213
Speaker 4: your plans to keep the pomegranate on the tree, says Robert.

1005
00:55:46,253 --> 00:55:48,293
Speaker 4: It's getting windy here and parts the North and things

1006
00:55:48,333 --> 00:55:49,893
Speaker 4: are going to be a whole lot worse than other

1007
00:55:50,053 --> 00:55:52,333
Speaker 4: parts of the North Island, a whole lot sooner.

1008
00:55:52,413 --> 00:55:52,613
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1009
00:55:52,693 --> 00:55:55,693
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, Robert, I don't want to trivialize the storm,

1010
00:55:57,373 --> 00:56:00,053
Speaker 4: but I would be lying if I said I had

1011
00:56:00,093 --> 00:56:04,013
Speaker 4: not expressed serious concern about the future of my pomegranate.

1012
00:56:04,213 --> 00:56:06,893
Speaker 4: The thing is, I reckon I maybe two or three

1013
00:56:06,893 --> 00:56:09,493
Speaker 4: weeks away from harvesting my pomegranate. They reckon that when

1014
00:56:09,453 --> 00:56:12,773
Speaker 4: your pomegranate is ready to be harvested, it loses its

1015
00:56:12,853 --> 00:56:16,133
Speaker 4: kind of spherical quality and becomes a little little boxier.

1016
00:56:16,613 --> 00:56:19,253
Speaker 4: So it's looking pretty read at the moment, and I

1017
00:56:19,253 --> 00:56:21,493
Speaker 4: think it's maybe just starting to get a little boxier.

1018
00:56:21,853 --> 00:56:24,213
Speaker 4: But I reckon it needs just a couple more weeks

1019
00:56:24,613 --> 00:56:27,773
Speaker 4: on the tree before I pick it. And obviously the

1020
00:56:27,853 --> 00:56:30,333
Speaker 4: storm is a concern. So I've tied up my pomegranate

1021
00:56:30,333 --> 00:56:32,093
Speaker 4: tree to the fence so that it doesn't try and

1022
00:56:32,093 --> 00:56:34,413
Speaker 4: flop around too much. Imagine if you had like a

1023
00:56:34,453 --> 00:56:38,853
Speaker 4: Christmas tree, and the point where the star goes on

1024
00:56:38,893 --> 00:56:41,013
Speaker 4: your Christmas tree. Right at the very top. That's where

1025
00:56:41,053 --> 00:56:43,733
Speaker 4: my one pomegranate on my pomegranate tree is growing like

1026
00:56:43,773 --> 00:56:45,973
Speaker 4: it could not be closer to the top of the tree,

1027
00:56:45,973 --> 00:56:47,973
Speaker 4: which means that it sort of feels like it could

1028
00:56:47,973 --> 00:56:50,373
Speaker 4: be blown around a whole lot more than other parts

1029
00:56:50,693 --> 00:56:53,053
Speaker 4: of the plant. So yep, I've tied it up. I'll

1030
00:56:53,093 --> 00:56:56,373
Speaker 4: be reporting back. But I'm pleased that I'm not the

1031
00:56:56,373 --> 00:56:58,693
Speaker 4: only one who's concerned about the state of my pomegranate

1032
00:56:58,693 --> 00:57:02,413
Speaker 4: coming into the storm. Obviously there are bigger concerns, So

1033
00:57:02,493 --> 00:57:05,973
Speaker 4: I hope that people are prepared at their place, tying

1034
00:57:05,973 --> 00:57:09,413
Speaker 4: things down. We're necessary clearing furniture, all that kind of stuff,

1035
00:57:09,413 --> 00:57:12,213
Speaker 4: and making sure we've got supplies to get you through anyway.

1036
00:57:12,333 --> 00:57:14,133
Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety two, if you want to send this message

1037
00:57:14,173 --> 00:57:15,853
Speaker 4: like Robert did this morning, time to get your screen

1038
00:57:15,893 --> 00:57:18,693
Speaker 4: time picks for this weekend, and Carl Pushman is here

1039
00:57:18,973 --> 00:57:21,293
Speaker 4: with his top takes. I cannot wait, Carl for the

1040
00:57:21,333 --> 00:57:22,813
Speaker 4: new season of Grand Designs.

1041
00:57:23,733 --> 00:57:25,493
Speaker 11: I know right for me, this is a show that

1042
00:57:25,613 --> 00:57:27,853
Speaker 11: somewhere along the line went from being a guilty pleasure

1043
00:57:27,853 --> 00:57:31,893
Speaker 11: to being your bog standard normal pleasure. Yeah, it's conceived

1044
00:57:31,933 --> 00:57:34,733
Speaker 11: a simple Each episode follows a single home build a

1045
00:57:34,813 --> 00:57:38,493
Speaker 11: renovation project from initial planning through the completion. The fun

1046
00:57:38,533 --> 00:57:41,853
Speaker 11: part was that the build actually finishing is not always guaranteed.

1047
00:57:42,293 --> 00:57:45,173
Speaker 11: As the title says, these are grand designs that these

1048
00:57:45,173 --> 00:57:46,133
Speaker 11: people are taking on.

1049
00:57:46,693 --> 00:57:48,053
Speaker 19: And what I.

1050
00:57:48,053 --> 00:57:51,293
Speaker 11: Always liked about it is that you'd have normal people

1051
00:57:51,333 --> 00:57:54,493
Speaker 11: like your Eyjack deciding that they could project manage these

1052
00:57:54,613 --> 00:57:59,173
Speaker 11: ludicrously ambitious and complex builds themselves with no prior experience

1053
00:57:59,413 --> 00:58:02,813
Speaker 11: in the trades whatsoever. It'd be sort of like deciding

1054
00:58:02,853 --> 00:58:05,213
Speaker 11: to take an F one car out for a spin

1055
00:58:05,453 --> 00:58:09,373
Speaker 11: and hoping that things don't go terribly wrong. Predictably, things

1056
00:58:09,413 --> 00:58:12,893
Speaker 11: often go terribly wrong very quickly, and you know, that

1057
00:58:12,933 --> 00:58:14,253
Speaker 11: was a big part of the appeal when they initially

1058
00:58:14,253 --> 00:58:16,413
Speaker 11: started watching this show, was just seeing what was going

1059
00:58:16,453 --> 00:58:18,853
Speaker 11: to go wrong. The flip side of that is that

1060
00:58:18,893 --> 00:58:23,253
Speaker 11: these incredible projects still, somehow miraculously most of the time,

1061
00:58:23,493 --> 00:58:26,653
Speaker 11: come to life, and it's often just through stubborn refusal

1062
00:58:26,693 --> 00:58:29,653
Speaker 11: to give up by the couple building these things. And

1063
00:58:29,653 --> 00:58:31,453
Speaker 11: that's what is really the heart of the show was

1064
00:58:31,493 --> 00:58:36,773
Speaker 11: seeing these crazy builds coming to life and all the

1065
00:58:36,893 --> 00:58:39,813
Speaker 11: heartache and stress and pressure that comes that comes with

1066
00:58:40,053 --> 00:58:43,933
Speaker 11: getting these things done. The New Zealand version is now

1067
00:58:43,973 --> 00:58:48,133
Speaker 11: on season ten and that framework still holds strong. Our

1068
00:58:48,133 --> 00:58:50,573
Speaker 11: host Tom Webster does a passible job of filling the

1069
00:58:50,573 --> 00:58:54,733
Speaker 11: original UK series host Killing McCloud's impressive shoes. He doesn't

1070
00:58:54,733 --> 00:58:56,773
Speaker 11: have that same air of what I'd like to call

1071
00:58:56,813 --> 00:59:01,773
Speaker 11: sort of supportive doubt or authoritative cynicism that McLoud often

1072
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Speaker 11: displays when talking to the people, and I do miss that,

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Speaker 11: But I think Tom Webs is doing his own thing

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Speaker 11: and it really works here, especially you know, in the

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Speaker 11: New Zealand environment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this, oh sorry.

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Speaker 11: The first episode lives up to the title with a

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00:59:16,373 --> 00:59:19,933
Speaker 11: couple taking on a Category one protected building, Earns Clue

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Speaker 11: Castle down in Clyde, just beside Queenstown. So as you

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00:59:23,333 --> 00:59:26,493
Speaker 11: can imagine, there is all manner of headaches going on

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Speaker 11: with this build. And yeah, the amount they have to

1082
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Speaker 11: go through in this years long renovation is incredible. To

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00:59:34,973 --> 00:59:38,293
Speaker 11: the show's massive credit credit budget talks are frank because

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Speaker 11: you know, Kiwis, we don't like to talk about money

1085
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Speaker 11: particularly and here the show budgets are openly discussed, which

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00:59:44,453 --> 00:59:47,853
Speaker 11: is really important, and this episode is a complete shocker

1087
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Speaker 11: when it comes to budget blowout so yes, a grand

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Speaker 11: a grand viewing experience.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I can't wait. I just love it. So

1090
00:59:54,573 --> 00:59:56,453
Speaker 4: every time I watch it and the person's like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and we think the build's going to be done in

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Speaker 4: four months and yeah, and we know it's across winter,

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Speaker 4: but it should be all good, and you know, and

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Speaker 4: we're thinking we're going to come in at you know,

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Speaker 4: like three hundred and fifty dollars. And I'm always like, ah,

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Speaker 4: have you never seen.

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Speaker 11: Screen television struggles to put up a painting? So they

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Speaker 11: think they can do this?

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Speaker 13: But I love her.

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Speaker 4: I love it. I just and I still somehow watch

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Speaker 4: the show and think, oh, yeah, I'd love to ever

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Speaker 4: go at that. Yeah, what can go wrong? Grand Designs

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Speaker 4: New Zealand as a new series that begins seven thirty

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Speaker 4: tomorrow night on TV and Z one. Tell us about

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Speaker 4: the new series of My House My Castle.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, from an actual castle to pretend castle, I guess.

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Speaker 11: For its twelve season, My Housemark My Castle has had

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Speaker 11: a bit of a reno, a bit of a spruce up.

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Speaker 11: Comedian and broadcaster Hailey Sprawl has moved in his as

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Speaker 11: host and this takes a very different tact. Where Grand

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01:00:52,253 --> 01:00:55,453
Speaker 11: Designs is slow and measured across years. My house, my

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Speaker 11: castle is just a tight half hour with the available

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Speaker 11: space just maximized. It is absolutely crammed with segments around housing, housing,

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Speaker 11: market housing, trem housing.

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Speaker 3: What have you.

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Speaker 11: Episode one looks at the death of the traditional Kiwi

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Speaker 11: quarter acre dream. It charts its history and the reasons

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Speaker 11: for its demise. Talks to a whole bunch of different

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Speaker 11: people that are living in big sections, small sections, in

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Speaker 11: between sections, all that kind of stuff that whizzes around

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Speaker 11: from experts like architects, interior designers, real estate agents. They

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Speaker 11: all chime in on it. And you know, there's flashy

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Speaker 11: graphics everywhere. Haley sprawl. You can get some comedy skits

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Speaker 11: in and she sort of has an excitable commentary the

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Speaker 11: whole way through which drives the pace. It does what

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Speaker 11: it does well. It was all a bit breathless and

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Speaker 11: full on for me, but it is solid entertainment and

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Speaker 11: the amount of them for they cram in is really commendable.

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Speaker 11: But yeah, I like my excitement a little a little

1130
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Speaker 11: more less, if you will, And it was just very

1131
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Speaker 11: full on, but to its credit, you do get the

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Speaker 11: history of the quarter acre section, the reasons for why

1133
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Speaker 11: we can no longer have them a little bit, just

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Speaker 11: wanted that another experts talk about the negatives around that.

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Speaker 11: That's all very gung ho positive, but you know that's

1136
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Speaker 11: the kind of show it as. It's, yeah, a positive

1137
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Speaker 11: look at what's going on in the housing market and

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Speaker 11: little small renovation of a backyard section in a townhouse

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Speaker 11: gets done, which you get to see how they maximize

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Speaker 11: the space there. So, like I say, it's a very

1141
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Speaker 11: tight half hour and it does do what it does well,

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Speaker 11: but put up against Grand Designs, it's not really a

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Speaker 11: fair comparison.

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Speaker 4: There, Okay, cool, Well, well there are two different options

1145
01:02:45,173 --> 01:02:48,213
Speaker 4: there and great, thanks sir Carl. So those shows once again.

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Speaker 4: My House, My Castle is on three and three now.

1147
01:02:50,933 --> 01:02:53,933
Speaker 4: Grand Design starts tomorrow night on TV and Z one

1148
01:02:54,013 --> 01:02:55,853
Speaker 4: and TV and Z Plus. And you can hear more

1149
01:02:55,893 --> 01:02:58,933
Speaker 4: from Carl on his sub stack screen crack.

1150
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Speaker 2: Getting your weekends started.

1151
01:03:04,693 --> 01:03:08,293
Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News Talks AB.

1152
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Speaker 7: Yes, but you want to do.

1153
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Speaker 4: Just In Bieber is back. Yeah. Beebes is set to

1154
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Speaker 4: headline Coachella this weekend. He's gonna take the main stage

1155
01:03:31,533 --> 01:03:35,013
Speaker 4: tonight for his first major performance since twenty twenty two.

1156
01:03:35,813 --> 01:03:38,413
Speaker 4: When you might remember he had to abandon his tour

1157
01:03:38,453 --> 01:03:43,533
Speaker 4: over health concerns. Coachella is one of the world's biggest

1158
01:03:43,733 --> 01:03:48,173
Speaker 4: music festivals. It is enormous. It's held in California's Coachella Valley.

1159
01:03:48,373 --> 01:03:50,653
Speaker 4: Tickets sold out in just three days. One hundred and

1160
01:03:50,693 --> 01:03:53,853
Speaker 4: twenty five thousand people will be hosted every day across

1161
01:03:53,893 --> 01:03:58,253
Speaker 4: two huge weekends. There are seven stages with a massive

1162
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Speaker 4: variety of artists including Sabrina Carpenter, Dave Byrne, The Strokes,

1163
01:04:02,053 --> 01:04:04,013
Speaker 4: and Iggy Pop. We're going to play some of the

1164
01:04:04,013 --> 01:04:07,813
Speaker 4: headliners throughout the show this morning and then just before midday.

1165
01:04:07,853 --> 01:04:11,613
Speaker 4: Our music reviewer will be in before the end of

1166
01:04:11,613 --> 01:04:14,333
Speaker 4: the show with his thoughts on the lineup this year

1167
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Speaker 4: and all of the details for the co CHALLERFESTI and

1168
01:04:16,733 --> 01:04:18,973
Speaker 4: a couple of minutes, our texpert is in with what

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Speaker 4: many are describing as one of the biggest developments in

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Speaker 4: AI to date. And this could have serious implications for

1171
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Speaker 4: anyone who uses passwords, anyone who does internet banking, anyone

1172
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Speaker 4: who uses the Internet anywhere. So who give us the

1173
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Speaker 4: details in a few minutes, it's twenty three to eleven.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic Asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 20: Tom Inside into how epic purity plays out. John Bolton,

1176
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Speaker 20: He's seen it all for the United States. Ambassador to

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Speaker 20: the United Nations of course, security advisor to every Republican

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Speaker 20: administration since Reagan, including Donald Trump. John Bolton is with us.

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Speaker 14: I don't think there's really much desperation on the Iranian side.

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Speaker 14: They're a rather primitive view of the world. Is they

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Speaker 14: win if they survived. But I don't think they feel

1182
01:05:01,133 --> 01:05:03,533
Speaker 14: the pressure. I think Trump's the one who feels the pressure.

1183
01:05:03,573 --> 01:05:05,653
Speaker 14: I think he looks at oil price is going up,

1184
01:05:05,653 --> 01:05:08,253
Speaker 14: in equity mar it's going down, and he wants out.

1185
01:05:08,333 --> 01:05:10,973
Speaker 14: And I think the Iranian censors that, and I think

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01:05:10,973 --> 01:05:13,853
Speaker 14: it leaves Trump and the US there for in a

1187
01:05:13,853 --> 01:05:15,053
Speaker 14: more vulnerable position.

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Speaker 20: Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 20: Rain Drivers fort SV News Talk ZB twenty to eleven.

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Speaker 4: On News Talk ZEDB. The next level of AI is

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01:05:25,613 --> 01:05:28,213
Speaker 4: about to be released and there are big, big concerns.

1192
01:05:28,253 --> 01:05:31,893
Speaker 4: Our textbit pollstin House is here with the details. Good I, Paul, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: good morning.

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Speaker 12: Jacket's hard. Do sometimes know what this AI stuff when

1195
01:05:35,453 --> 01:05:38,893
Speaker 12: we hear these developments, how much of it is sort

1196
01:05:38,933 --> 01:05:41,733
Speaker 12: of the marketing height yea, or the or you know,

1197
01:05:41,773 --> 01:05:43,813
Speaker 12: trying to hype the investors. Do you give us more

1198
01:05:43,893 --> 01:05:46,253
Speaker 12: money and we need more money for infrastructure and how

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Speaker 12: much of it is actually real? But I will say

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01:05:49,053 --> 01:05:51,933
Speaker 12: that this model is coming from Anthropic, the other makers

1201
01:05:51,933 --> 01:05:55,293
Speaker 12: of Clawed and there I think it was their CEO

1202
01:05:55,533 --> 01:06:00,973
Speaker 12: said that the fallout for economies, public safety, and national

1203
01:06:01,013 --> 01:06:05,133
Speaker 12: security could be severe. Yeah, so that kind of goes

1204
01:06:05,173 --> 01:06:07,773
Speaker 12: beyond marketing high, I think at that point. So this

1205
01:06:07,893 --> 01:06:09,973
Speaker 12: is probably one we need to pay attention to.

1206
01:06:10,853 --> 01:06:13,053
Speaker 4: I think that the way they've been discussing it, and

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01:06:13,093 --> 01:06:14,773
Speaker 4: I love the stuff as you do, but I think

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01:06:14,813 --> 01:06:17,293
Speaker 4: the way they've been discussing it suggests that they're seriously

1209
01:06:17,333 --> 01:06:21,133
Speaker 4: concerned about liability. Like they aren't talking it up in

1210
01:06:21,173 --> 01:06:23,053
Speaker 4: a big way because they want to make money out

1211
01:06:23,053 --> 01:06:25,373
Speaker 4: of it necessarily, although of course they do. It's more

1212
01:06:25,373 --> 01:06:27,853
Speaker 4: that they're concerned this is so powerful that if they

1213
01:06:27,933 --> 01:06:31,333
Speaker 4: release it for everyone overnight, the things that people could

1214
01:06:31,333 --> 01:06:34,573
Speaker 4: potentially do with it would leave them liable for lawsuits

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Speaker 4: that would bankrupt the company, you know, I mean, yeah, I.

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Speaker 12: Mean when you start talking about some of the things

1217
01:06:40,373 --> 01:06:43,653
Speaker 12: here that it could be finding. Right, So this latest

1218
01:06:43,653 --> 01:06:47,853
Speaker 12: model mythis is able to find. They're basically saying that

1219
01:06:47,933 --> 01:06:50,413
Speaker 12: it is probably in the top one percent of software

1220
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Speaker 12: engineers around. They're saying that it is in the top

1221
01:06:52,973 --> 01:06:56,493
Speaker 12: one percent of cybersecurity professionals around. And so it is

1222
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Speaker 12: able to find. It has found thousands, thousands of vulnerabilities

1223
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Speaker 12: and software that we assumingly use day in and day out.

1224
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Speaker 12: Some of the vulnerabilities that found been there for twenty

1225
01:07:07,133 --> 01:07:08,933
Speaker 12: seven years. No one knew they were there, even the

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01:07:08,933 --> 01:07:10,853
Speaker 12: companies that have been testing it and know all about

1227
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Speaker 12: the software. So this is like very powerful stuff, and

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Speaker 12: I think I think the thing that is probably most

1229
01:07:17,093 --> 01:07:20,293
Speaker 12: alarming is it's not like it could just you know,

1230
01:07:20,613 --> 01:07:24,253
Speaker 12: create a really cool app, you know that's for good.

1231
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Speaker 12: They're really concerned about the bad. And the thing that

1232
01:07:26,893 --> 01:07:29,613
Speaker 12: kind of got me, you know, set my alarm bells

1233
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Speaker 12: off was the US Treasury Secretary. He actually in the

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01:07:34,373 --> 01:07:36,933
Speaker 12: wake of this, a bunch of the US banks happened

1235
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Speaker 12: to be in Washington for some lobbying type of things,

1236
01:07:39,573 --> 01:07:42,893
Speaker 12: but he met with all of these critical banks and

1237
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Speaker 12: you can imagine, or I guess you don't want to imagine,

1238
01:07:45,773 --> 01:07:48,813
Speaker 12: but you could be a time where imagine if they

1239
01:07:48,813 --> 01:07:52,293
Speaker 12: could get into the kind of the critical big US

1240
01:07:52,453 --> 01:07:56,133
Speaker 12: banks and they could start messing with transactions or messing with,

1241
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Speaker 12: you know, the flow of money like that would just

1242
01:07:59,733 --> 01:08:02,453
Speaker 12: upend them. So that would it would be and so

1243
01:08:02,493 --> 01:08:05,733
Speaker 12: that wouldn't just be a lawsuit in some liability, that

1244
01:08:05,733 --> 01:08:07,413
Speaker 12: would be something quite different.

1245
01:08:07,613 --> 01:08:11,013
Speaker 4: And this is the concern, right, So they've basically tested

1246
01:08:11,053 --> 01:08:15,453
Speaker 4: this model. They've asked this model to find cybersecurity vulnerabilities

1247
01:08:15,973 --> 01:08:18,933
Speaker 4: in some of the most important software in the world.

1248
01:08:19,133 --> 01:08:23,893
Speaker 4: And so this is stuff like internet browsers, the little

1249
01:08:23,933 --> 01:08:26,333
Speaker 4: bits of software that none of us even know is

1250
01:08:26,373 --> 01:08:29,173
Speaker 4: being used. So the open source stuff that gets used

1251
01:08:30,253 --> 01:08:32,133
Speaker 4: in all manner of software that you use every day

1252
01:08:32,173 --> 01:08:34,773
Speaker 4: without even kind of being aware that you're using software

1253
01:08:34,773 --> 01:08:37,453
Speaker 4: at a time. And you know, there are examples that

1254
01:08:37,493 --> 01:08:41,413
Speaker 4: I've read about where, for example, a piece of software

1255
01:08:41,453 --> 01:08:46,973
Speaker 4: has been checked five million times by human cybersecurity experts,

1256
01:08:47,253 --> 01:08:52,053
Speaker 4: coding experts, and artificial intelligence models and has never been

1257
01:08:52,053 --> 01:08:54,253
Speaker 4: found to have a problem. And now they've put this

1258
01:08:54,373 --> 01:08:57,773
Speaker 4: mythofs model on it and it's immediately found massive vulnerabilities

1259
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Speaker 4: that could be catastrophic. And it's this kind of example

1260
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Speaker 4: replicated however, many times over with however, many companies, however,

1261
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Speaker 4: many forms of software that is worrying.

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Speaker 12: Yes, And one of the ones that also got my

1263
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Speaker 12: kind of here is on the back of my neck.

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Speaker 2: Up was Cisco. So the CEO of Cisco.

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Speaker 12: And Cisco makes networking kind of hardware, right, but obviously

1266
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Speaker 12: behind the hardware is also some software. Now, when you've

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Speaker 12: got the CEO of Cisco coming and saying that AI

1268
01:09:23,213 --> 01:09:26,773
Speaker 12: has reached a level where critical infrastructure needs to be protected,

1269
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Speaker 12: as Cisco, who provides the critical infrastructure for many digital

1270
01:09:32,973 --> 01:09:38,093
Speaker 12: businesses and huge networks, you have to think we might

1271
01:09:38,133 --> 01:09:40,813
Speaker 12: be on we might be at a time where we

1272
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Speaker 12: might need to pump the brakes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so interesting a. So, one of the steps

1274
01:09:45,133 --> 01:09:48,093
Speaker 4: this company has taken is they've got an alliance of

1275
01:09:48,093 --> 01:09:53,613
Speaker 4: cybersecurity companies and like another three or four dozen organizations,

1276
01:09:53,653 --> 01:09:57,573
Speaker 4: and they've given them like one hundred million dollars worth

1277
01:09:57,573 --> 01:09:59,693
Speaker 4: of tokens to use this model so they can go

1278
01:09:59,773 --> 01:10:01,533
Speaker 4: and test it before it's released in the public, which

1279
01:10:01,533 --> 01:10:03,333
Speaker 4: seems like probably a very good idea, and they they

1280
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Speaker 4: need more who knows, but they're being fascinating to see

1281
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Speaker 4: what happens with this. Thank you, Paul, that is Paul

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Speaker 4: Stenhouse our texpert this morning. Mythos is the name of

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Speaker 4: that new model from Anthropic. It has not been released

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Speaker 4: to the general public and it might be some time

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Speaker 4: before it is quarter to eleven on Newstalk's EDB.

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Speaker 1: The Best way to start your weekend Saturday Morning with

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Speaker 1: Jack Team on newsborg Z EDB.

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Speaker 4: Thirteen to eleven on Newstalk's EDB, time to get our

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Speaker 4: Master Somalier's wine picked for this weekend, and Cameron Douglas

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Speaker 4: has chosen a Tuva Iris penan war from twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: He's with us this morning. Get a Cameron, good morning.

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Speaker 21: What great pronunciation that was?

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Speaker 4: Wow done. Look we definitely didn't just ask you the

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Speaker 4: thirty seconds ago. Just just a triple check the pronunciation

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Speaker 4: of a Chuba iris. But yeah, very good. So tell

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Speaker 4: us about the wine.

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Speaker 21: Well, Tuva is a Croatian term. It means guardians, so

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Speaker 21: it's always a great wine to have by your side

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Speaker 21: within clement weather. And Iris, which is also on that label,

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Speaker 21: is the national flower of Croatia.

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Speaker 4: Right, okay, So a two var iris is the name

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Speaker 4: of the wine. Is it like as a pen and wire?

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Speaker 4: Is it quite a fruity little number.

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Speaker 21: Yeah. Look, I would call this a complete wine. It's

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Speaker 21: in that ready to drink expression with a decent measure

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Speaker 21: of what I call deliciousness. You know, it's right, it's fruity.

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Speaker 21: It's got this core of varietal flavors that lots of

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Speaker 21: people and listeners like to expect from peanut, which is

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Speaker 21: that cherry, raspberry, red flower, boisonberry mix. But there's a

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Speaker 21: little bit of wood spice in here as well. You know,

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Speaker 21: great pen and wire comes with a little bit of wood.

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Speaker 21: And there's the term I like to use when I'm

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Speaker 21: writing about one called earth smoke, and what that means

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Speaker 21: is the echo of something from the earth that underpins

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Speaker 21: the wine, and in this case clay, which is what

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Speaker 21: it's grown on to a degree. It's a lovely dry wine,

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Speaker 21: and it's what I also call easily dissolved hannons, along

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Speaker 21: with a great refreshing acid line. So it does have youth,

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Speaker 21: but it's immediate drinkability from today.

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Speaker 4: Oh very good. So you could hold on to it

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Speaker 4: for a couple of years, you reckon.

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Speaker 21: Oh, absolutely, twenty four is a great vintage, and this

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Speaker 21: wine has all the attributes to make it last and

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Speaker 21: you sell it for a good couple of years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And if you did want to have it sometime soon,

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Speaker 4: what would you match it with? Do you think?

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Speaker 21: Well, if you like me and you're hunkering down for

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Speaker 21: the next couple of days, I think that food that

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Speaker 21: is not only good for you, fills you up and

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Speaker 21: makes you feel good at the same time. I'm suggesting

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Speaker 21: a rosotto that is vegan in nature and also one

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Speaker 21: hundred percent gluten free. And the tipping point with any

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Speaker 21: kind of risotto is whether or not you're going to

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Speaker 21: use a vegan cheese or a standard cheese and an

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Speaker 21: international style cheese. And Epic do a great brand of

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Speaker 21: van cheddar which you can use. But for somebody like

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Speaker 21: me and even perhaps you, you know, parmesan or pecorino

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Speaker 21: grated into that mix for service is always great. And

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Speaker 21: if you want to go a bit fancy, then drop

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Speaker 21: a knob of blue cheese in there as well.

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Speaker 4: Oh so good, Yeah, because I think the parmesan gives

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01:13:26,013 --> 01:13:30,613
Speaker 4: you that amami as well, doesn't it, And obviously yeah,

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Speaker 4: so rich.

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Speaker 21: I'd also actually throw in a whole leak. Lots of

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Speaker 21: people go half an onion or half a red onion

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Speaker 21: or a little bit of leak or but throw a

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Speaker 21: whole leak in there, cook that up first and reduce

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Speaker 21: that down and then just add any veggies that you

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Speaker 21: like and it's a wonderful match.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, wonderful, Thank you Cameron. So Cameron's picked for us

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Speaker 4: this weekend as a tuvar Iris Penina twenty twenty four

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Speaker 4: from Marlborough. The details will be on the news talks.

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Speaker 4: He'd be website and we're in the garden next gardening

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Speaker 4: with still sharp autumn deals on tools built right passes

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Speaker 4: our man in the garden.

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Speaker 13: Good morning, sir, A very good cura to you. Is

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Speaker 13: everything all right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, very well.

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Speaker 8: Thanks.

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Speaker 4: So I was at my sister's last weekend for Easter weekend,

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Speaker 4: and she is like an absolute star in the garden.

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Speaker 4: In fact, she actually she grows flowers and she sells

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Speaker 4: them from a little honesty box in front of in

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Speaker 4: front of her house. And of course the season starting

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Speaker 4: to turn et cetera, et cetera. But as I was

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Speaker 4: walking around to her garden, she was giving me a

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Speaker 4: bit of a tour of things. I was absolutely blown

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Speaker 4: away by the dahlias. But still this late in the season,

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Speaker 4: it really is quite amazing.

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Speaker 13: Well, that's it. That's exactly what we can talk about

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Speaker 13: because it still keeps on going. Been here in christ Church.

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Speaker 4: Really yeah, okay, so yeah, I mean it is starting

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Speaker 4: to get pretty cool. I mean we've had daylight saving.

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Speaker 4: I know that that's not necessarily the marker of the

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Speaker 4: change in the seasons, but usually it's a bit of

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Speaker 4: an indication that things are changing.

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Speaker 13: No, you're absolutely right, but there are still dozens and

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Speaker 13: dozens of varieties that are actually very calm, you even

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Speaker 13: in the botanic gardens. And so that is the point.

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Speaker 13: The point is you want to get into get to dahlias,

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Speaker 13: go and have a look at the botanic gardens, go

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Speaker 13: and have.

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Speaker 17: A look at the various places that have.

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Speaker 13: Good, good plants like that, and then literally take the

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Speaker 13: photos and get.

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Speaker 17: On with it.

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Speaker 13: And that's what this is about. So I'll give you

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Speaker 13: an example. I've got the mixed peppermint and the Pom

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Speaker 13: Pom Rusty.

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Speaker 4: Got these names, I I know, the life yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 13: And Le Baron, which is very nice and purple deep.

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Speaker 13: And for the Dutch people, cannamar Land coctus and cannamar

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Speaker 13: Land is actually one of the Dutch places.

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Speaker 17: You know, it's actually literally in a piece.

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Speaker 13: Of land where the water is quite high. Anyway, currently

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Speaker 13: it's still growing time. That is the message that you

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Speaker 13: and I have just got from this last week. That's

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Speaker 13: still growing time. And to be serious, you know, we

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Speaker 13: need to keep them as plants producing before the winter starts.

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Speaker 13: So there you are good if you find Yeah, so

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Speaker 13: if you find the place the things that you want

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Speaker 13: to go and and I call them daily and.

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Speaker 17: Thick hot spots.

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Speaker 13: As daily are you know, and you get your orders

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Speaker 13: in now. If you like old drinks, dailier tubers, steel

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Speaker 13: water flowers, you know them all mighty then and all

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Speaker 13: that and basically that's the way to go. Once you

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Speaker 13: start in dahlia as you'll never ever forget how to

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Speaker 13: do it.

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01:16:39,373 --> 01:16:42,173
Speaker 4: To be quite spring springtime is.

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Speaker 13: The time to plant the right I was just going

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01:16:44,853 --> 01:16:47,453
Speaker 13: to say that's the point, the big point. But you've

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Speaker 13: got to actually get those things organized first, start them

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Speaker 13: in in springtime. Away you go. The fertilizer is good

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01:16:55,053 --> 01:16:59,533
Speaker 13: to use new parts, new plants, next.

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Speaker 17: Level and pks I call it.

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Speaker 13: And basically you can even do them as potted dahlias.

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Speaker 13: That's a nice one, Jack. You can actually have them

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Speaker 13: you know, even if it gets shitty weather, you can

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Speaker 13: put them in a more shielded position in a pott Dahlia,

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Speaker 13: especially when the potting mixes of good condition. So I

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Speaker 13: would say, don't wait.

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Speaker 17: Have a go.

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Speaker 4: Very good, hey, thank you so much, Rude. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: We'll put those varietals up on the news Talks website.

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Speaker 4: You can have a look at some of the photos too.

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Speaker 4: They really are gorgeous. So getting organized now so you've

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Speaker 4: got your seeds for spring makes a lot of sense, right, absolutely,

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Speaker 4: very good, Thank you, Rude. Speaking of getting organized, news

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Speaker 4: team is standing by with the latest on the approach

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Speaker 4: of the cyclone. Some pretty significant ones already been recorded

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Speaker 4: in north Lander. Quick question through from learn Saint Jack.

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Speaker 4: Is the Artemis splash down being televised anywhere as it

1435
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Speaker 4: reinters Earth. It's not on TV as such, but you

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Speaker 4: can watch a live stream on YouTube from NASA. It's

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Speaker 4: actually a really good live stream. You can see the

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Speaker 4: astronauts sitting there in the space shuttle coming down worth

1439
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Speaker 4: so you just look that up on YouTube line. It's

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Speaker 4: almost eleven o'clock news time, Give a Jack Tamee Saturday morning.

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Speaker 4: This is news Talk.

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Speaker 1: Said well, you're heading out to start your Saturday turn off.

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Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Tabe on News Talk said.

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Speaker 3: B.

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Speaker 4: Exactly one hour to go, exactly one hour sixty minutes,

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Speaker 4: and the astronauts on Artemis two will have splashed down

1447
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Speaker 4: in the Pacific Ocean. I'm watching a live feed right

1448
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Speaker 4: now of the to voyage, the four astronauts in the

1449
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Speaker 4: capsule looking at a variety of screens as they get

1450
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Speaker 4: close to Earth and begin the re entry process. It

1451
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Speaker 4: all happens very quickly, like the business end of things,

1452
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Speaker 4: happens in about twelve or fifteen minutes. I think. Once

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Speaker 4: they decide to re enter, they pull the tree up

1454
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Speaker 4: down through the atmosphere. That's where it gets insanely hot.

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Speaker 4: They're traveling insanely fast, and then slowly they're brought down

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Speaker 4: to a more controllable speed. The parachutes deploy, and hopefully

1457
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Speaker 4: all things going well, they will splosh down in the

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Speaker 4: Pacific Ocean in exactly fifty nine minutes. Cody, you're with

1459
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Speaker 4: Jack Tame on News Talks. He'd be it is so

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Speaker 4: good to have you with us this morning. I'm going

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Speaker 4: to keep you up to speed as I'll watch the

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Speaker 4: Artemis two re entry process over the next hour or so.

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Speaker 4: If you want to watch it as well, you can

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Speaker 4: just have it on in the background. There YouTube has

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Speaker 4: a live stream from NASA right now. They've got the

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Speaker 4: little countdown clock in the top corner. Fifty eight minutes

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Speaker 4: and fifty one seconds, fifty seconds, forty nine seconds. Just

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Speaker 4: imagine how those astronauts will be feeling. I think this

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Speaker 4: must be more complex than the standard re entry for

1470
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Speaker 4: astronauts have been visiting the Space Shuttle. But yeah, be

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Speaker 4: interesting actually, you know, it would be interesting to know

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Speaker 4: if from their perspective they as they orbit the Earth

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Speaker 4: preparing for re entry, if they can see cyclone Banu

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Speaker 4: I reckon, they might be able to write given its

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Speaker 4: size and strength and how cyclony it looks right now.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of of course, if you haven't yet got organized

1477
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Speaker 4: and you were in the path of the storm, now

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Speaker 4: is the time to do it. You don't want to

1479
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Speaker 4: be facing a massive crush at the supermarket. Later on

1480
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Speaker 4: this afternoon. We're going to keep you up to speed

1481
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Speaker 4: on newstalks. Z'd be with the very latest from met

1482
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Speaker 4: Service and the various other authorities. Strong Wind's already being

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Speaker 4: recorded in Northland at the moment, things are still pretty

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Speaker 4: quiet around Auckland, although obviously things and Corimandel, Northland Auckland

1485
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Speaker 4: regions expected to get pretty wild over the next twenty

1486
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Speaker 4: four hours or so. Right before the day, we're going

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Speaker 4: to take you to coach Halla. It kicks off this weekend,

1488
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Speaker 4: Justin Bieber on stage for the first time in four

1489
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Speaker 4: years as one of the headliners, Sabrina Carpenter playing there

1490
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Speaker 4: as well. So our music review is going to give

1491
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Speaker 4: us his thoughts on the coach Hella line up and

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Speaker 4: we'll play you a couple of tracks from the stars

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Speaker 4: who'll be fronting their seven stages over the next couple

1494
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Speaker 4: of weekends. As well as that, our travel correspondent is

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01:21:26,293 --> 01:21:28,773
Speaker 4: taking us on a journey along Route sixty six in

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01:21:28,813 --> 01:21:30,933
Speaker 4: the US, so he'll be with us shortly. Right now,

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01:21:30,933 --> 01:21:34,813
Speaker 4: though it's ten past eleven. Ja time to catch up

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01:21:34,813 --> 01:21:38,133
Speaker 4: with our sustainability expert Kate Hall is always here giving

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01:21:38,173 --> 01:21:41,453
Speaker 4: us great practical tips on stuff we can do that

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01:21:41,533 --> 01:21:43,973
Speaker 4: are never too painful to be just a little bit

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01:21:43,973 --> 01:21:47,413
Speaker 4: more sustainable in our lives. Good morning, What am I Jack?

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01:21:47,613 --> 01:21:50,733
Speaker 4: You have for us? Some hangout ideas with mates that

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01:21:51,013 --> 01:21:54,373
Speaker 4: save you money and are sustainable so you are trying

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01:21:54,373 --> 01:21:57,773
Speaker 4: to catch up with your buddies without going and spending

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01:21:57,773 --> 01:22:00,333
Speaker 4: an absolute bomb on a super fancy dinner or anything

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01:22:00,373 --> 01:22:01,893
Speaker 4: like that, something that can be a bit simpler.

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01:22:02,573 --> 01:22:05,373
Speaker 15: Yeah, exactly. I think, you know, it's important to still

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01:22:05,413 --> 01:22:08,493
Speaker 15: be social, but sometime I'm the thought of you going

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01:22:08,533 --> 01:22:11,373
Speaker 15: out and having to pay drinks and a meal or

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01:22:11,493 --> 01:22:13,013
Speaker 15: you know, like all the kind of costs that come

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01:22:13,053 --> 01:22:16,693
Speaker 15: with it, especially at the moment, can feel a bit overwhelming.

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01:22:16,773 --> 01:22:19,773
Speaker 15: And there are so many, particularly sustainable ways that we

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01:22:19,813 --> 01:22:22,093
Speaker 15: can still gather and still have a lot of fun.

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01:22:22,133 --> 01:22:25,333
Speaker 15: I would argue probably more fun these ideas than just

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01:22:25,373 --> 01:22:28,893
Speaker 15: sitting at a bar and kind of just sitting there

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01:22:29,013 --> 01:22:30,093
Speaker 15: making small talk.

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01:22:30,293 --> 01:22:32,613
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny. You know they always say with men

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01:22:32,933 --> 01:22:34,893
Speaker 4: that men have to be doing stuff. I mean they

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01:22:34,893 --> 01:22:36,253
Speaker 4: don't have to be, but you know, I mean, like

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01:22:36,373 --> 01:22:39,533
Speaker 4: do stuff to socialize because they're not very good at

1521
01:22:39,653 --> 01:22:42,053
Speaker 4: kind of steering opposite each other over a long black

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01:22:42,053 --> 01:22:42,813
Speaker 4: steering into each other.

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01:22:44,293 --> 01:22:47,893
Speaker 15: Yeah. Yeah, let's just go for a walk or something,

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01:22:47,933 --> 01:22:49,813
Speaker 15: you know, like it. I feel like then you can

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01:22:49,853 --> 01:22:52,573
Speaker 15: talk about something and yeah, that's right, you're like doing stuff.

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01:22:52,653 --> 01:22:55,413
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, anyway, so you've got some great little practical

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01:22:55,453 --> 01:22:57,373
Speaker 4: ideas for us this morning. Let's start off with a

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01:22:57,413 --> 01:22:58,893
Speaker 4: seed or plants swap.

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01:22:59,813 --> 01:23:03,453
Speaker 15: Yes, so everyone would bring a seeds, like a packet

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01:23:03,453 --> 01:23:07,453
Speaker 15: of seeds, seedlings or cuttings, so you cuttings from your

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01:23:07,493 --> 01:23:10,733
Speaker 15: house plants or some seedlings that you know you've grown

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01:23:10,773 --> 01:23:14,093
Speaker 15: heaps and you've got some excess. So you imagine if okay,

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01:23:14,173 --> 01:23:16,893
Speaker 15: let's say there's like ten people. Imagine if you bring

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01:23:17,413 --> 01:23:21,733
Speaker 15: ten little seedlings of tomatoes, and then you'd come home

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01:23:21,773 --> 01:23:25,413
Speaker 15: with ten seedlings, but of all different varieties because they're

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01:23:25,693 --> 01:23:28,773
Speaker 15: bringing something different. So yeah, that could be a really

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01:23:28,973 --> 01:23:31,853
Speaker 15: really fun one. Also a baking slop, so the same idea,

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01:23:32,813 --> 01:23:36,013
Speaker 15: but you're bringing his favorite thing that you like to bake.

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01:23:36,453 --> 01:23:38,773
Speaker 15: Then again, you go home with a whole lot of

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01:23:39,133 --> 01:23:42,693
Speaker 15: different things, some new flavors, and you're not just left

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01:23:42,773 --> 01:23:44,813
Speaker 15: with like a bult load of brownie.

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01:23:45,053 --> 01:23:47,493
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good idea. I'm into that. That's good,

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01:23:47,533 --> 01:23:49,613
Speaker 4: and that could kind of work for other meals as well,

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01:23:49,613 --> 01:23:50,533
Speaker 4: I suppose.

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01:23:50,933 --> 01:23:54,053
Speaker 15: Yes, yeah, exactly, I like the idea. I'm actually planning

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01:23:54,053 --> 01:23:56,533
Speaker 15: on diners. This is my friend. So there's a meal

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01:23:56,573 --> 01:23:59,733
Speaker 15: prep slop. So you imagine if you cook just one

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01:23:59,813 --> 01:24:03,373
Speaker 15: big dish. So like Tim and I really like making nachos.

1549
01:24:03,413 --> 01:24:06,133
Speaker 15: So if you just bulk make a whole of nachos,

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01:24:06,493 --> 01:24:10,213
Speaker 15: put them in little portion containers, and bring them to

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01:24:10,333 --> 01:24:13,613
Speaker 15: your meal crip party if you want to call it,

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01:24:14,213 --> 01:24:16,653
Speaker 15: and then you come home with all sorts of different

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01:24:16,653 --> 01:24:19,213
Speaker 15: meals and so you've got like a whole variety and

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01:24:19,253 --> 01:24:21,573
Speaker 15: you haven't had to make everything or go out and

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01:24:21,573 --> 01:24:24,013
Speaker 15: get all the ingredients. And yeah, you've got a whole

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01:24:24,013 --> 01:24:25,813
Speaker 15: lot of different meals for your fridge of freezer.

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01:24:26,093 --> 01:24:28,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good idea. Actually, you could just

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01:24:28,333 --> 01:24:30,853
Speaker 4: do like a let say you did a massive lasagne

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01:24:30,973 --> 01:24:32,773
Speaker 4: or yeah, you don't want to make a Lasania, but

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01:24:32,773 --> 01:24:34,413
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like you could do You

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01:24:34,413 --> 01:24:36,453
Speaker 4: could just do a really big batch and then you

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01:24:36,453 --> 01:24:38,493
Speaker 4: could actually end up with five different meals if you

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01:24:38,493 --> 01:24:42,333
Speaker 4: did a really Yeah that's cunning. I'm into that. You

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01:24:42,373 --> 01:24:44,333
Speaker 4: can do the same kind of swap when it comes

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01:24:44,333 --> 01:24:46,333
Speaker 4: to clothes, Yes, yeah, I.

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01:24:46,253 --> 01:24:50,893
Speaker 15: Think people have likely heard of clothing stop and so yeah,

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01:24:50,973 --> 01:24:53,533
Speaker 15: you bring a whole munch of clothes you no longer want,

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01:24:53,613 --> 01:24:58,973
Speaker 15: and that's less less like the baking and meal one,

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01:24:59,053 --> 01:25:01,253
Speaker 15: when you kind of bring sort of portions, But I've

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01:25:01,293 --> 01:25:04,093
Speaker 15: seen clothing stops at best when you just bring kind

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01:25:04,133 --> 01:25:06,733
Speaker 15: of all the clothes that you don't need you think

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01:25:07,093 --> 01:25:09,693
Speaker 15: would so different people come into the party and then

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01:25:09,813 --> 01:25:12,413
Speaker 15: anything that you know, one kind of takes home or

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01:25:12,533 --> 01:25:15,053
Speaker 15: that nothing finds at home, you can donate to the upshop.

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01:25:15,253 --> 01:25:18,613
Speaker 4: O nice, and the swat theme continues for things from

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01:25:18,693 --> 01:25:20,293
Speaker 4: your pantry.

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01:25:20,373 --> 01:25:20,613
Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 15: I've seen some awesome slop parties of people bring like

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01:25:24,413 --> 01:25:28,413
Speaker 15: jams and chutney, sourdo staters, you know, like any different

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01:25:28,453 --> 01:25:31,213
Speaker 15: things like these xtraps. I really love making these xtraps.

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01:25:31,653 --> 01:25:35,093
Speaker 15: So again, it's like using everyone's different skills to do

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01:25:35,173 --> 01:25:38,733
Speaker 15: something you know you love but do yeah, like a

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01:25:38,773 --> 01:25:42,973
Speaker 15: home goods slop. You can even do like things around

1584
01:25:42,973 --> 01:25:45,333
Speaker 15: your house that you no longer love or you know,

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01:25:45,453 --> 01:25:47,973
Speaker 15: like home deake or just get yeah, get creatives. And

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01:25:48,053 --> 01:25:50,253
Speaker 15: it could be so much fun and actually be quite

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01:25:50,253 --> 01:25:51,013
Speaker 15: a last.

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01:25:50,773 --> 01:25:52,973
Speaker 4: Yeah, and a great way to socialize while kind of

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01:25:53,013 --> 01:25:56,453
Speaker 4: saving money as well. And I suppose like there's something

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01:25:56,493 --> 01:25:59,173
Speaker 4: about that kind of shed experience thing too that actually

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01:25:59,853 --> 01:26:01,613
Speaker 4: I don't want to get too like grandiose on this,

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01:26:01,693 --> 01:26:04,453
Speaker 4: but it can kind of actually helps to forge connections.

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01:26:04,453 --> 01:26:05,973
Speaker 17: Ah, yeah, oh exactly.

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01:26:06,373 --> 01:26:09,893
Speaker 15: It's part of like community resilience as well, that you

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01:26:09,893 --> 01:26:13,253
Speaker 15: you know, you're kind of connecting, you're sharing skills, You're

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01:26:13,293 --> 01:26:16,053
Speaker 15: not just sharing drinks. You know, you're kind of you

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01:26:16,133 --> 01:26:18,453
Speaker 15: have someone to talk about, and you get to know

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01:26:18,493 --> 01:26:20,733
Speaker 15: your friends much more too, because you're.

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, you're talking about the things you're going to

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01:26:23,253 --> 01:26:25,573
Speaker 4: be labor. Yeah, exactly, you can talk about the things

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01:26:25,573 --> 01:26:28,053
Speaker 4: that you're going to be wrapping in Kate's beeswax wraps.

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01:26:28,573 --> 01:26:29,293
Speaker 15: Yeah exactly.

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01:26:30,293 --> 01:26:31,293
Speaker 2: That's a really good idea.

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01:26:31,413 --> 01:26:32,173
Speaker 13: No, I'm into it.

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01:26:32,333 --> 01:26:33,653
Speaker 4: I think it's a really good idea. I guess you

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01:26:33,653 --> 01:26:34,813
Speaker 4: could call them swap parties.

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01:26:35,533 --> 01:26:39,173
Speaker 15: Yes, exactly right, you can stop anything really Yeah.

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01:26:39,093 --> 01:26:41,173
Speaker 4: Very good. I thank you, Kay love that. We'll put

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01:26:41,173 --> 01:26:43,333
Speaker 4: those suggestions up on the news talks heb website, and

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01:26:43,373 --> 01:26:46,213
Speaker 4: of course you can find Kate on social media. Just

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01:26:46,253 --> 01:26:49,253
Speaker 4: search ethically Kate on all of the main platforms and

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01:26:49,293 --> 01:26:52,533
Speaker 4: you will pop right up right it's quarter past eleven

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01:26:52,573 --> 01:26:54,133
Speaker 4: on news talks. He'd be thank you for your feedback.

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01:26:54,133 --> 01:26:55,973
Speaker 4: Michael's flip me a text. So Jack, I've just tuned

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01:26:56,013 --> 01:26:59,373
Speaker 4: into YouTube and I'm intrigued with the speed gauge increasing

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01:26:59,853 --> 01:27:02,013
Speaker 4: as I text. So at the start of punching out

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01:27:02,013 --> 01:27:06,133
Speaker 4: this message the Crown Artemists, we're doing thirteen nine hundred

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01:27:06,133 --> 01:27:09,013
Speaker 4: and eight two miles an hour. They're now hitting fourteen

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01:27:09,453 --> 01:27:12,253
Speaker 4: five hundred and fifty five miles per hour and climbing.

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01:27:12,293 --> 01:27:14,333
Speaker 4: It's going to be a hell of a ride. Interesting

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01:27:14,373 --> 01:27:16,093
Speaker 4: you say that, Michael, I've actually gone and had a

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01:27:16,173 --> 01:27:19,373
Speaker 4: quick check of what is the major difference in bringing

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01:27:19,413 --> 01:27:23,893
Speaker 4: back the astronauts on Artemis versus bringing back astronauts from

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01:27:23,893 --> 01:27:27,013
Speaker 4: the International Space Station, And it all comes down to speed.

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01:27:27,453 --> 01:27:31,933
Speaker 4: So these guys will be re entering about ten thousand

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01:27:32,053 --> 01:27:36,533
Speaker 4: kilometers an hour faster than the crews from the International

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01:27:36,573 --> 01:27:39,973
Speaker 4: Space Station would be re entering. And when you re

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01:27:40,253 --> 01:27:44,253
Speaker 4: enter faster, things get a whole lot hotter. So the

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01:27:44,293 --> 01:27:47,733
Speaker 4: heat shield on Artemis two apparently has to be able

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01:27:47,773 --> 01:27:50,813
Speaker 4: to sustain temperatures roughly half as hot as the surface

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01:27:50,853 --> 01:27:53,933
Speaker 4: of the Sun, which from all accounts is very hot.

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01:27:54,533 --> 01:27:58,013
Speaker 4: So you really want to make sure the engineering is

1633
01:27:58,053 --> 01:27:59,693
Speaker 4: going to hold true here. And this is you might

1634
01:27:59,773 --> 01:28:04,213
Speaker 4: remember with the first Artemis mission. Once they got it

1635
01:28:04,253 --> 01:28:06,213
Speaker 4: back to Earth and everything was okay, NASA did some

1636
01:28:06,413 --> 01:28:08,053
Speaker 4: you know, kind of did its various tests and things,

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01:28:08,093 --> 01:28:10,813
Speaker 4: and they were a bit alarmed at how much the

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01:28:10,893 --> 01:28:13,773
Speaker 4: outer part of the heat shield had deteriorated, so they

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01:28:13,813 --> 01:28:17,453
Speaker 4: reckoned that actually it had deteriorated a whole lot more

1640
01:28:17,973 --> 01:28:21,253
Speaker 4: than their early models had suggested it would, so they

1641
01:28:21,293 --> 01:28:23,253
Speaker 4: had to kind of go and read just a few

1642
01:28:23,253 --> 01:28:27,093
Speaker 4: bits and pieces there. Anyway, that's the big difference between

1643
01:28:27,293 --> 01:28:30,093
Speaker 4: Artemis two and the regular astronauts coming back from the

1644
01:28:30,133 --> 01:28:32,613
Speaker 4: International Space Station a whole lot faster, which equals a

1645
01:28:32,613 --> 01:28:35,053
Speaker 4: whole lot hotter. NASA said that it basically has to

1646
01:28:35,093 --> 01:28:37,653
Speaker 4: be twelve minutes of a whole lot of things going

1647
01:28:37,733 --> 01:28:40,053
Speaker 4: right in order to get them back to Worth safely.

1648
01:28:40,133 --> 01:28:41,973
Speaker 4: So yeah, i'll keep you up to speed with that.

1649
01:28:42,013 --> 01:28:45,653
Speaker 4: If you want to watch the live stream of the

1650
01:28:45,693 --> 01:28:48,213
Speaker 4: re entry, you can do on YouTube. NASA's gone on

1651
01:28:48,253 --> 01:28:51,173
Speaker 4: its official YouTube page, and they're kind of scrolling between

1652
01:28:51,253 --> 01:28:56,693
Speaker 4: images of the astronauts in the capsule, alongside the mission

1653
01:28:56,693 --> 01:29:00,013
Speaker 4: control in Houston and various other experts who are doing

1654
01:29:00,013 --> 01:29:03,213
Speaker 4: interviews and things. So yeah, it's really interesting. Their due

1655
01:29:03,213 --> 01:29:06,293
Speaker 4: to land in just under fifty minutes, seven past twe

1656
01:29:06,453 --> 01:29:08,853
Speaker 4: of New Zealand time. They should be back, So yeah,

1657
01:29:08,933 --> 01:29:11,333
Speaker 4: we'll keep you up to speak with that. Seventeen past eleven,

1658
01:29:11,613 --> 01:29:15,013
Speaker 4: our travel expert is taking us to Root sixty six

1659
01:29:15,053 --> 01:29:15,653
Speaker 4: in Arizona.

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01:29:15,733 --> 01:29:21,373
Speaker 1: Next travel with Windy WU Tours Where the world is

1661
01:29:21,413 --> 01:29:22,413
Speaker 1: Yours for now.

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01:29:23,173 --> 01:29:26,413
Speaker 4: Correspondent Mike Yardley has been enjoying the Artemis live stream

1663
01:29:26,773 --> 01:29:28,453
Speaker 4: as well. Mike, I mean, I know you take us

1664
01:29:28,453 --> 01:29:31,053
Speaker 4: to some exotic places, but I mean that instead of

1665
01:29:31,053 --> 01:29:32,493
Speaker 4: setting things to the next level, isn't it.

1666
01:29:33,413 --> 01:29:36,493
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I've been enjoying how you've been nooding

1667
01:29:36,493 --> 01:29:37,573
Speaker 3: out on this as much as me.

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01:29:37,693 --> 01:29:37,893
Speaker 8: Jack.

1669
01:29:37,973 --> 01:29:40,813
Speaker 3: Actually, I mentioned to Libby there was this interesting shot

1670
01:29:41,013 --> 01:29:44,373
Speaker 3: on the Nassa feated about fifteen minutes ago, and it

1671
01:29:44,453 --> 01:29:47,293
Speaker 3: appeared to be an aerial shot of Australasia and you

1672
01:29:47,333 --> 01:29:54,893
Speaker 3: could actually see Cyclone Guiana just above Zello look LARGINALI.

1673
01:29:54,213 --> 01:29:56,733
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I mean, honestly, it has been kind of

1674
01:29:56,733 --> 01:29:59,173
Speaker 4: spooky this morning, and it was all of last night

1675
01:29:59,213 --> 01:30:01,653
Speaker 4: as well in Auckland at the very least, like just

1676
01:30:01,733 --> 01:30:06,373
Speaker 4: so still, you know, very much the calm before the storm.

1677
01:30:06,573 --> 01:30:10,453
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, they're already recording some significant wins around

1678
01:30:10,573 --> 01:30:13,133
Speaker 4: Northland and obviously things other than next twenty four hours

1679
01:30:13,133 --> 01:30:16,293
Speaker 4: are expected to get yeah serious, So yeah, we'll be

1680
01:30:16,853 --> 01:30:19,653
Speaker 4: watching that space, but we're turning our attentions to things

1681
01:30:19,733 --> 01:30:22,893
Speaker 4: a little closer to Terra Firma this morning, and that

1682
01:30:23,053 --> 01:30:26,413
Speaker 4: Arizona's Route sixty six, sixty six, which turns one hundred

1683
01:30:26,453 --> 01:30:26,853
Speaker 4: this year.

1684
01:30:28,213 --> 01:30:32,573
Speaker 3: Yes, Jack, the cross country Classic between Chicago and Santa Monica.

1685
01:30:33,173 --> 01:30:35,893
Speaker 3: A lot of Americans call it the main Street of America,

1686
01:30:36,013 --> 01:30:40,653
Speaker 3: Route sixty six, and it's amazing how many people are

1687
01:30:40,773 --> 01:30:43,693
Speaker 3: lured onto that road every year. I was chatting to

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01:30:43,733 --> 01:30:46,173
Speaker 3: a local and Arizona who said, last year we reckon.

1689
01:30:46,213 --> 01:30:50,173
Speaker 3: We had twelve million internationals stop in our town because

1690
01:30:50,213 --> 01:30:54,813
Speaker 3: of Route sixty six. So I've knocked off various sections

1691
01:30:54,853 --> 01:30:57,373
Speaker 3: of the route over the years, but I still think

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01:30:58,493 --> 01:31:02,853
Speaker 3: that the Northern Arizona section is one of the best

1693
01:31:03,253 --> 01:31:05,533
Speaker 3: if you just want to give yourself a sample of

1694
01:31:05,613 --> 01:31:08,253
Speaker 3: the entire So I went back there a couple of

1695
01:31:08,293 --> 01:31:12,213
Speaker 3: weeks ago, and what's interesting Jack about Northern Arizona section

1696
01:31:12,413 --> 01:31:16,613
Speaker 3: is that the route was officially decommissioned forty years ago

1697
01:31:16,733 --> 01:31:19,613
Speaker 3: to make way for the Interstate Highway. But I've just

1698
01:31:19,653 --> 01:31:25,213
Speaker 3: got so many retro wreathed towns built around that historic

1699
01:31:25,333 --> 01:31:30,453
Speaker 3: route that endure and are booming in northern Arizona despite

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01:31:30,493 --> 01:31:33,373
Speaker 3: being bypassed by I forty nice.

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01:31:33,533 --> 01:31:36,053
Speaker 4: So where is a good starting point for the Arizona section?

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01:31:36,133 --> 01:31:36,293
Speaker 17: Then?

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01:31:37,333 --> 01:31:38,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, a lot of folk will set off from

1704
01:31:39,013 --> 01:31:42,893
Speaker 3: La But to be honest, you've got that very soulless

1705
01:31:42,933 --> 01:31:46,093
Speaker 3: sprawl of Death Valley in the Mahabi Desert and it's

1706
01:31:46,253 --> 01:31:51,933
Speaker 3: interminably boring hour upon our, upon our, So frankly I

1707
01:31:51,973 --> 01:31:56,053
Speaker 3: would skip that and launch off from Las Vegas because

1708
01:31:56,093 --> 01:32:00,693
Speaker 3: you also have the spectacle of the Hoover Dam just

1709
01:32:00,813 --> 01:32:04,653
Speaker 3: outside of Las Vegas before you hit Arizona's Route sixty

1710
01:32:04,693 --> 01:32:08,733
Speaker 3: six and the section across Arizona stretches for about three

1711
01:32:08,813 --> 01:32:12,173
Speaker 3: hundred k so break it up into chunks. Kingman is

1712
01:32:12,213 --> 01:32:16,173
Speaker 3: the first town. It's a wash in motoring memorabilia, lots

1713
01:32:16,173 --> 01:32:19,573
Speaker 3: of instabate, and it's also home to one of I reckon,

1714
01:32:19,613 --> 01:32:23,093
Speaker 3: one of the best old school diners on Route sixty six,

1715
01:32:23,613 --> 01:32:27,493
Speaker 3: Mister D's. It's been a fixture since the nineteen fifties.

1716
01:32:27,773 --> 01:32:31,653
Speaker 3: You have expect the fonds to appear as you're ordering

1717
01:32:31,693 --> 01:32:36,333
Speaker 3: up your waffles Jack lots of vintage bowsers outside mister D's.

1718
01:32:36,573 --> 01:32:39,053
Speaker 3: Oprah Winfrey is a fan of mister d. So it

1719
01:32:39,133 --> 01:32:39,733
Speaker 3: must be good.

1720
01:32:39,813 --> 01:32:42,893
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, too, right? So what would be your what

1721
01:32:42,933 --> 01:32:43,973
Speaker 4: would be your favorite town?

1722
01:32:45,253 --> 01:32:48,893
Speaker 3: I would say Seligman. It's a stunner and I'm a

1723
01:32:48,893 --> 01:32:51,173
Speaker 3: bit of a history geek. And what I love about

1724
01:32:51,173 --> 01:32:56,253
Speaker 3: Seligman is it's considered as the birthplace of Historic Route

1725
01:32:56,293 --> 01:33:01,453
Speaker 3: sixty six because it was this town that convinced Congress

1726
01:33:01,533 --> 01:33:05,933
Speaker 3: to declear the route a National Historic Landmark. And the guy,

1727
01:33:06,013 --> 01:33:11,013
Speaker 3: respect Constable and Saligman, was a small town barber, Angel Delgadillo.

1728
01:33:11,573 --> 01:33:14,973
Speaker 3: He's now ninety nine and he's still kicking. I chatted

1729
01:33:15,013 --> 01:33:17,693
Speaker 3: to his granddaughter in the gift shop a few weeks ago.

1730
01:33:17,933 --> 01:33:24,893
Speaker 3: And Angel's brother actually opened up the snow Cap Driving,

1731
01:33:25,093 --> 01:33:27,893
Speaker 3: which is right next door. That's been going for seventy

1732
01:33:27,973 --> 01:33:32,733
Speaker 3: years and it's the most radiantly colorful and kitchen driving.

1733
01:33:32,853 --> 01:33:36,093
Speaker 3: It's got a Chevrolet on its roof. And these guys

1734
01:33:36,133 --> 01:33:39,133
Speaker 3: at the drive in they hold the Guinness World Record

1735
01:33:39,533 --> 01:33:45,013
Speaker 3: for offering the most milkshake flavors. I've got two twenty

1736
01:33:45,093 --> 01:33:48,493
Speaker 3: six flavors on off for Jackso shakeaway.

1737
01:33:48,053 --> 01:33:52,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. And is William's best for accommodation.

1738
01:33:53,213 --> 01:33:56,133
Speaker 3: Great overnight stop? Yes, And it's also the gateway into

1739
01:33:56,173 --> 01:33:57,613
Speaker 3: the Grand Canyon. So if you want to do all

1740
01:33:57,653 --> 01:34:00,813
Speaker 3: we sidetrap at the canyon, you can. The main street

1741
01:34:00,813 --> 01:34:03,693
Speaker 3: of Williams is just bathed in the on It's just

1742
01:34:03,693 --> 01:34:07,453
Speaker 3: got that retro glow of all things Route sixty six

1743
01:34:07,973 --> 01:34:11,493
Speaker 3: great gift shops. I actually stayed at this really little

1744
01:34:11,533 --> 01:34:15,253
Speaker 3: hotel called Red Garter, and it's about a century old,

1745
01:34:15,533 --> 01:34:17,333
Speaker 3: and back in the day it was a booming brothel.

1746
01:34:17,893 --> 01:34:21,453
Speaker 3: It's now ranked as one of America's most haunted hotels.

1747
01:34:22,093 --> 01:34:25,373
Speaker 3: Not that I knew that before I arrived, Jeff, I

1748
01:34:25,413 --> 01:34:28,893
Speaker 3: can't say I saw anything, but there was some very

1749
01:34:28,933 --> 01:34:32,333
Speaker 3: strange noises overnight, and just as I was leaving, I

1750
01:34:32,453 --> 01:34:34,933
Speaker 3: was flecking through the guest book, and oh my goodness,

1751
01:34:35,013 --> 01:34:41,853
Speaker 3: it was littered with extraordinary accounts from disbelieving guests, just from.

1752
01:34:41,733 --> 01:34:44,773
Speaker 2: The previous two weeks. Really sorts of sight.

1753
01:34:44,893 --> 01:34:49,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like just pages upon pages of stories of

1754
01:34:49,853 --> 01:34:52,933
Speaker 3: citings and encounters. So if you do like a hotel

1755
01:34:53,293 --> 01:34:56,413
Speaker 3: that extends its range of amenities to ghosts, and you

1756
01:34:56,493 --> 01:34:57,493
Speaker 3: have come to the right place.

1757
01:34:57,573 --> 01:35:00,373
Speaker 4: And here's a history by the sounds of things, yeah right. Indeed,

1758
01:35:01,533 --> 01:35:04,413
Speaker 4: so heating further east, tell us about flag Staff and Winslow.

1759
01:35:05,493 --> 01:35:09,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, but both really good, sturdy towns, lots of classic

1760
01:35:09,773 --> 01:35:13,973
Speaker 3: stone buildings. There's a real western field, real cowboy feel

1761
01:35:14,053 --> 01:35:17,413
Speaker 3: to Flagstar for example. And then just out of Winslow

1762
01:35:17,613 --> 01:35:21,813
Speaker 3: a must do is the Meteor Crater. So this is

1763
01:35:21,853 --> 01:35:25,213
Speaker 3: the meteorite that crashed to Earth fifty thousand years ago

1764
01:35:25,253 --> 01:35:28,373
Speaker 3: that caused this crater. The size of it, it's hard

1765
01:35:28,373 --> 01:35:32,013
Speaker 3: to describe, Jack, but in terms of metrics, it's twenty

1766
01:35:32,213 --> 01:35:38,173
Speaker 3: rugby fields wide. It's as deep as a sixty story building.

1767
01:35:38,533 --> 01:35:43,453
Speaker 3: So it is just this giant puncture in the Earth's surface.

1768
01:35:43,493 --> 01:35:46,213
Speaker 3: It's like this massive amphitheater. In fact, if it was

1769
01:35:46,253 --> 01:35:51,693
Speaker 3: a stadium, it could seat two million people and with

1770
01:35:51,773 --> 01:35:56,093
Speaker 3: all eyes currently on itemis interesting. Little side note. NASA's

1771
01:35:56,173 --> 01:36:01,733
Speaker 3: previous Moon missions actually used Meteor Crater as a training

1772
01:36:01,773 --> 01:36:06,733
Speaker 3: site for Apollo based Onwards because its surface is so lunar.

1773
01:36:06,573 --> 01:36:09,853
Speaker 4: Like wow, okay, yeah, that's amazing, isn't it. Do you

1774
01:36:09,933 --> 01:36:14,173
Speaker 4: know how big the meteor was that made Metior Crator?

1775
01:36:16,173 --> 01:36:20,853
Speaker 3: Oh I did see a figure somewhere. It is available

1776
01:36:20,893 --> 01:36:21,733
Speaker 3: on the internet.

1777
01:36:22,293 --> 01:36:27,733
Speaker 4: They reckon it was only about fifty meters across. Really, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1778
01:36:27,733 --> 01:36:30,813
Speaker 4: oh my good I mean, I say you think about

1779
01:36:30,973 --> 01:36:34,293
Speaker 4: you think about like half a rugby pitch, right, yeah,

1780
01:36:34,293 --> 01:36:36,813
Speaker 4: half a rugby pitch flying to the earth at you know,

1781
01:36:36,933 --> 01:36:39,693
Speaker 4: crashing into the earth at five thousand kilometers an hour

1782
01:36:39,773 --> 01:36:42,333
Speaker 4: or whatever it was. You know, like absolutely crazy. You

1783
01:36:42,333 --> 01:36:43,973
Speaker 4: can you can understand how it made a creter, but

1784
01:36:44,013 --> 01:36:48,693
Speaker 4: then extrapolate from that how big the meteor must have

1785
01:36:48,773 --> 01:36:51,253
Speaker 4: been and how big the crater would have been before

1786
01:36:51,253 --> 01:36:54,173
Speaker 4: it was filled in. That wiped out the dinosaurs right.

1787
01:36:54,333 --> 01:36:56,533
Speaker 3: Totally, which was on the Yucatan Peninsula.

1788
01:36:56,613 --> 01:36:58,813
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, that's right. Yeah, but it's now kind

1789
01:36:58,813 --> 01:37:00,613
Speaker 4: of filled in, so you can't you don't. You can't

1790
01:37:00,613 --> 01:37:04,253
Speaker 4: see it like you can see the meteor crater in Arizona.

1791
01:37:04,293 --> 01:37:07,613
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's yeah, it's crazy because it is enormous.

1792
01:37:07,693 --> 01:37:07,973
Speaker 8: It is.

1793
01:37:08,173 --> 01:37:10,933
Speaker 4: So what other natural attractions are in the neighborhoods.

1794
01:37:11,733 --> 01:37:14,013
Speaker 3: Well, it's just the cool thing about the Arizona section

1795
01:37:14,053 --> 01:37:16,653
Speaker 3: of Root sixty six. Check, it's not just all that

1796
01:37:16,813 --> 01:37:20,213
Speaker 3: retro kitchy stuff. It is nature. So they've got the

1797
01:37:20,253 --> 01:37:24,493
Speaker 3: only national park on Route sixty six in northern Arizona.

1798
01:37:24,573 --> 01:37:27,853
Speaker 3: It's the Petrified Forest. Yeah, and it really is quite something.

1799
01:37:27,973 --> 01:37:31,973
Speaker 3: So this is like a fossilized forest buried by vulcanic

1800
01:37:31,973 --> 01:37:34,253
Speaker 3: cash millions of years ago. So what you see today

1801
01:37:34,693 --> 01:37:37,213
Speaker 3: when you rock up to it, it's this very strange

1802
01:37:37,813 --> 01:37:44,293
Speaker 3: mashup of millions of sparkly courts logs just lying across

1803
01:37:44,333 --> 01:37:47,973
Speaker 3: the landscape. And that park is also home to the

1804
01:37:47,973 --> 01:37:51,773
Speaker 3: Painted Desert, which is just a blaze with all of

1805
01:37:51,773 --> 01:37:55,053
Speaker 3: this multi colored rock bands of red and violet and green.

1806
01:37:55,613 --> 01:37:58,533
Speaker 3: It is another dazzler in the bag of tricks on

1807
01:37:58,653 --> 01:37:59,573
Speaker 3: Route sixty six.

1808
01:37:59,653 --> 01:38:02,013
Speaker 4: Oh that sounds so good. Thank you, Mike. Well, make

1809
01:38:02,013 --> 01:38:04,973
Speaker 4: sure all of Mike's taps for exploring Arizona's Root sixty

1810
01:38:04,973 --> 01:38:06,933
Speaker 4: six are up on the news togs. He'd be website.

1811
01:38:07,053 --> 01:38:10,253
Speaker 4: Enjoy that Artemis live stream, Mike, and we will catch

1812
01:38:10,333 --> 01:38:12,853
Speaker 4: you again very soon. Just coming up to eleven thirty

1813
01:38:12,893 --> 01:38:14,933
Speaker 4: on News Talks B, we will see what Jason Pine

1814
01:38:14,973 --> 01:38:16,293
Speaker 4: has for us on Weekend Sport.

1815
01:38:16,413 --> 01:38:22,053
Speaker 2: Next, getting your weekend started.

1816
01:38:22,253 --> 01:38:50,053
Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack Team on News Talks' B.

1817
01:38:51,133 --> 01:38:54,613
Speaker 4: That's the Strokes and last night they're playing at Coachella

1818
01:38:54,693 --> 01:38:56,733
Speaker 4: this weekend. Oh that is that is one that I

1819
01:38:56,733 --> 01:39:00,013
Speaker 4: would be prioritizing. Be amazing across the seven stages that

1820
01:39:00,093 --> 01:39:01,813
Speaker 4: you've really got to kind of try and plot who

1821
01:39:01,853 --> 01:39:03,293
Speaker 4: you see and where you go and all that kind

1822
01:39:03,293 --> 01:39:05,373
Speaker 4: of stuff. But oh my goodness, if it was the

1823
01:39:05,413 --> 01:39:10,213
Speaker 4: Strokes Beber, Yeah, not much similar equation for me. Jason Pine,

1824
01:39:10,253 --> 01:39:14,173
Speaker 4: on the other hand, has different thoughts. I don't builts

1825
01:39:14,213 --> 01:39:21,693
Speaker 4: at all. A big show for Week in Sport this afternoon,

1826
01:39:21,813 --> 01:39:24,253
Speaker 4: right after the Middan news kicking off with artamis landing.

1827
01:39:24,493 --> 01:39:26,893
Speaker 4: It's gonna be as you welcome ever onto the show.

1828
01:39:26,933 --> 01:39:29,053
Speaker 4: You have to have the live stream up and going absolutely,

1829
01:39:29,893 --> 01:39:32,333
Speaker 4: But you're looking at volunteer numbers this afternoon because it

1830
01:39:32,493 --> 01:39:35,053
Speaker 4: really says a lot about the state of grassroots sport,

1831
01:39:35,093 --> 01:39:37,573
Speaker 4: and grassroots sport of course is the kind of gateway

1832
01:39:37,613 --> 01:39:41,613
Speaker 4: to our elite sport. And you know, and there's a

1833
01:39:41,613 --> 01:39:43,413
Speaker 4: bit of concern about volunteer numbers at the moment.

1834
01:39:43,333 --> 01:39:45,133
Speaker 22: Right Yeah, they've been dropping for a while. In fact,

1835
01:39:45,173 --> 01:39:47,093
Speaker 22: I think really you can trace it back to COVID,

1836
01:39:47,253 --> 01:39:50,333
Speaker 22: and you know, it's never really been a full recovery

1837
01:39:50,333 --> 01:39:52,773
Speaker 22: as far as those volunteer numbers are concerned. But now

1838
01:39:52,813 --> 01:39:55,453
Speaker 22: there are clubs in real danger of not being able

1839
01:39:55,453 --> 01:39:58,293
Speaker 22: to fulfill their commitments to their members. Particularly their junior teams.

1840
01:39:58,693 --> 01:40:00,853
Speaker 22: Is a club in Wellington, Western Suburbs, not far from

1841
01:40:00,853 --> 01:40:04,293
Speaker 22: where I live actually, and they are in desperate need

1842
01:40:04,333 --> 01:40:08,653
Speaker 22: of forty junior coaches the White zero four zero. Otherwise

1843
01:40:09,093 --> 01:40:11,453
Speaker 22: forty junior teams are not going to have a coach

1844
01:40:11,893 --> 01:40:14,013
Speaker 22: and times that by and some of these junior teams have.

1845
01:40:14,093 --> 01:40:15,733
Speaker 22: You know, there's sort of seven a side atu sides,

1846
01:40:15,773 --> 01:40:18,173
Speaker 22: so let's say ten people in the squad and on

1847
01:40:18,253 --> 01:40:20,293
Speaker 22: from there, you're talking four or five hundred kids who

1848
01:40:20,293 --> 01:40:24,693
Speaker 22: won't won't have a team to play for. So here's real,

1849
01:40:25,133 --> 01:40:27,413
Speaker 22: here's where we are with it. And that's just one club.

1850
01:40:27,613 --> 01:40:30,293
Speaker 22: I'm sure there are others that have similar issues. So

1851
01:40:30,373 --> 01:40:34,133
Speaker 22: why are volunteer numbers down? How can we get them back?

1852
01:40:34,253 --> 01:40:38,093
Speaker 22: And what are people's grassroots experiences because from the top

1853
01:40:38,093 --> 01:40:40,053
Speaker 22: of the country to the bottom, Jack, you know this

1854
01:40:40,053 --> 01:40:42,853
Speaker 22: this is a you know, clubs are so important to

1855
01:40:42,853 --> 01:40:45,973
Speaker 22: our community, so why aren't more people investing there their

1856
01:40:46,053 --> 01:40:49,653
Speaker 22: voluntary time and making sure they continue. So it's a

1857
01:40:49,653 --> 01:40:52,853
Speaker 22: wide and ranging discussion, which I'd like to have this afternoon. Yeah,

1858
01:40:52,893 --> 01:40:55,533
Speaker 22: so that'll be just after the Artemis landing, just after

1859
01:40:55,573 --> 01:40:56,453
Speaker 22: mid day and.

1860
01:40:56,333 --> 01:41:00,853
Speaker 4: After the disaster on the White Matah for the Black Foils.

1861
01:41:00,853 --> 01:41:02,893
Speaker 4: You've got an update for us this afternoon on the

1862
01:41:02,893 --> 01:41:05,613
Speaker 4: state of MW Zealand sale GP team Blair Chooks.

1863
01:41:05,533 --> 01:41:09,093
Speaker 22: And yeah, he's on the show, the sal GP circus,

1864
01:41:09,093 --> 01:41:11,013
Speaker 22: so it's not a circus that you know, the road

1865
01:41:11,013 --> 01:41:13,853
Speaker 22: show moves on there. They're in Rio, this squisky good Way. Yeah,

1866
01:41:14,213 --> 01:41:16,053
Speaker 22: it's all the good parts of the circus. They're in

1867
01:41:16,173 --> 01:41:18,733
Speaker 22: Rio this weekend. I know Blair Chuck and Peter Berlin

1868
01:41:18,973 --> 01:41:21,093
Speaker 22: were really looking forward to being in Rio. That's where

1869
01:41:21,093 --> 01:41:23,573
Speaker 22: they won their Olympic gold medal ten years ago. They're

1870
01:41:23,613 --> 01:41:25,293
Speaker 22: not going to be there. When will they be on

1871
01:41:25,333 --> 01:41:27,333
Speaker 22: the start line. We'll get an update from Blair Chirk

1872
01:41:27,413 --> 01:41:31,213
Speaker 22: the next one after Rio, there's there's one in Bermuda

1873
01:41:31,293 --> 01:41:34,093
Speaker 22: in the middle of next month and then New York

1874
01:41:34,133 --> 01:41:36,933
Speaker 22: at the back end of next month into into June.

1875
01:41:36,973 --> 01:41:39,613
Speaker 22: Any chance will find out and also just see what

1876
01:41:39,733 --> 01:41:43,533
Speaker 22: what emotional scarring mental scarring there is after that. Yeah,

1877
01:41:43,693 --> 01:41:46,173
Speaker 22: horrendous crash on the White to Matar Harbor when sale

1878
01:41:46,213 --> 01:41:48,413
Speaker 22: GP was here, so ye're looking forward to to finding

1879
01:41:48,413 --> 01:41:49,573
Speaker 22: out a bit more about that as well.

1880
01:41:49,653 --> 01:41:51,653
Speaker 4: Do you have one of those robot vacuum cleaners.

1881
01:41:52,533 --> 01:41:53,933
Speaker 22: No, the one that goes by itself.

1882
01:41:54,013 --> 01:41:56,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, no.

1883
01:41:57,853 --> 01:41:58,293
Speaker 7: Be careful.

1884
01:41:58,333 --> 01:42:00,293
Speaker 4: If you've got a dog, they have a pet, got

1885
01:42:00,293 --> 01:42:02,653
Speaker 4: two cats? Okay, no, that's a good, good reason not

1886
01:42:02,693 --> 01:42:04,453
Speaker 4: to have one, I think, because you know, they always

1887
01:42:04,493 --> 01:42:06,893
Speaker 4: reckon that the robot vacuum cleaners aren't very good noticing

1888
01:42:06,933 --> 01:42:09,373
Speaker 4: when your cat might have danced business somewhere it shouldn't.

1889
01:42:09,693 --> 01:42:11,533
Speaker 4: And then they go back and forth and back and forth,

1890
01:42:11,573 --> 01:42:13,933
Speaker 4: and back and forth and back and forth, and all

1891
01:42:13,933 --> 01:42:16,173
Speaker 4: of a sudden, what might have been a contained disaster

1892
01:42:16,293 --> 01:42:19,133
Speaker 4: becomes a much less contained disaster. Anyway, the reason I

1893
01:42:19,173 --> 01:42:21,533
Speaker 4: ask is we're going to look at a book at

1894
01:42:21,533 --> 01:42:24,413
Speaker 4: a couple of minutes called The Infinite Sadness of Small Appliances.

1895
01:42:24,613 --> 01:42:27,693
Speaker 4: That is a delightful sounding book written from the perspective

1896
01:42:27,693 --> 01:42:30,973
Speaker 4: of a robot vacuum cleaner. Well, there you go. Okay,

1897
01:42:31,373 --> 01:42:33,933
Speaker 4: it sounds award winning to me. We do variety, you know.

1898
01:42:34,093 --> 01:42:37,693
Speaker 4: We do Artemis two landing back, the re entry processes,

1899
01:42:37,773 --> 01:42:43,653
Speaker 4: the complex geometry that underpins Nash's most ambitious mission in years.

1900
01:42:43,933 --> 01:42:46,173
Speaker 4: We do the State of Volunteers in New Zealand Sport,

1901
01:42:46,213 --> 01:42:49,213
Speaker 4: and we do the Infinite Sandness of small appliances very

1902
01:42:49,253 --> 01:42:51,173
Speaker 4: much looking forward to this afternoon. Thank you, sir Planks,

1903
01:42:51,253 --> 01:42:53,573
Speaker 4: Jack A Joe, Thanks. Jason Pine with us right after

1904
01:42:53,573 --> 01:42:55,573
Speaker 4: the midday news on News Talks. 'db your book picks

1905
01:42:55,613 --> 01:42:56,653
Speaker 4: for this weekend.

1906
01:42:56,293 --> 01:43:00,693
Speaker 1: Next Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on

1907
01:43:00,893 --> 01:43:05,133
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by NEWSTALKSB just come.

1908
01:43:05,013 --> 01:43:06,773
Speaker 4: Up to twenty to twelve on you still he'd be.

1909
01:43:06,893 --> 01:43:10,493
Speaker 4: Katherine Rains, book reviewer, has her picks for this weekend.

1910
01:43:10,533 --> 01:43:13,773
Speaker 4: Get a Catherine, Hello, Jack. Could be a very good weekend.

1911
01:43:13,813 --> 01:43:15,693
Speaker 4: I reckon for just parking up on the couch with

1912
01:43:15,733 --> 01:43:17,973
Speaker 4: a couple of good reads. And so our first for

1913
01:43:18,053 --> 01:43:20,373
Speaker 4: this weekend is The Keeper by Tana French.

1914
01:43:21,453 --> 01:43:23,533
Speaker 19: So this is part of a trilogy and it's actually

1915
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Speaker 19: the third part and it follows the trilogy has followed

1916
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Speaker 19: this guy, Carl Hooper, who was a retired cargo cop

1917
01:43:29,493 --> 01:43:31,853
Speaker 19: and he moved to this very small town at an

1918
01:43:31,933 --> 01:43:34,773
Speaker 19: Arkley in Ireland. And you know, he's there because it's

1919
01:43:34,773 --> 01:43:37,373
Speaker 19: simple and beautiful and he just wants some peace. And

1920
01:43:37,373 --> 01:43:39,453
Speaker 19: of course he's not found a lot of that, apart

1921
01:43:39,493 --> 01:43:42,733
Speaker 19: from how beautiful the place is. Instead, he's found himself

1922
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Speaker 19: involved in you know, the webs, of how people work

1923
01:43:46,053 --> 01:43:51,093
Speaker 19: in you know, centuries of people thinking of what other

1924
01:43:51,133 --> 01:43:54,533
Speaker 19: people think and binding them together in their past. And

1925
01:43:54,573 --> 01:43:57,173
Speaker 19: so after the sort of four years he's been there,

1926
01:43:57,213 --> 01:43:59,693
Speaker 19: he's built you know, this place for him amongst the

1927
01:44:00,253 --> 01:44:02,613
Speaker 19: townspeople there, and he's fixed up his cottage and he's

1928
01:44:02,653 --> 01:44:05,813
Speaker 19: got a dog, and he makes craft furniture, and he's

1929
01:44:05,853 --> 01:44:08,333
Speaker 19: engaged to this woman called Lena, and he's been mentoring

1930
01:44:08,373 --> 01:44:11,333
Speaker 19: this team called Trey, and he's quite well liked in

1931
01:44:11,373 --> 01:44:15,013
Speaker 19: the town. And then this young woman, Rachel Hurlahan goes

1932
01:44:15,093 --> 01:44:17,733
Speaker 19: missing and she's found dead at the river, and the

1933
01:44:17,813 --> 01:44:21,453
Speaker 19: whole town is entangled in this, and of course there's

1934
01:44:21,493 --> 01:44:24,453
Speaker 19: more to her death that meets the eye. Was it suicide,

1935
01:44:24,613 --> 01:44:27,613
Speaker 19: was it murder? Was it an accident? And she herself

1936
01:44:27,653 --> 01:44:30,013
Speaker 19: was about to become engaged to this guy, Eugene, who's

1937
01:44:30,053 --> 01:44:33,093
Speaker 19: the son of the wealthiest and most influential man in

1938
01:44:33,133 --> 01:44:36,333
Speaker 19: the town, Tommy Mornihan, And people in the town are

1939
01:44:36,453 --> 01:44:40,693
Speaker 19: split over their opinions and theories and rumors and gossip

1940
01:44:40,813 --> 01:44:44,453
Speaker 19: fly around the town, and characters change and opinions change,

1941
01:44:44,453 --> 01:44:48,013
Speaker 19: and there's questionable motives and you get this very authentic

1942
01:44:48,093 --> 01:44:50,893
Speaker 19: environment of the small town and you feel the humidity

1943
01:44:50,933 --> 01:44:52,613
Speaker 19: of the fog, and you feel like you're in the

1944
01:44:52,653 --> 01:44:56,173
Speaker 19: local pub chatting with the locals around the issues. They're

1945
01:44:56,173 --> 01:44:58,973
Speaker 19: never saying exactly what they mean or directly saying what's

1946
01:44:58,973 --> 01:45:01,093
Speaker 19: on their mind, and you get immersed in this story

1947
01:45:01,493 --> 01:45:04,493
Speaker 19: and wonderful characters and the rumors and the gossip and

1948
01:45:04,533 --> 01:45:06,853
Speaker 19: the friction and the suspicion of the locals. It adds

1949
01:45:06,893 --> 01:45:10,933
Speaker 19: to this intense part of the mystery of what's going on.

1950
01:45:11,093 --> 01:45:14,413
Speaker 4: Oh, superb okay, that's The Keeper by Tanna French. I've

1951
01:45:14,453 --> 01:45:16,813
Speaker 4: got to say I am delighted by the sound of

1952
01:45:16,813 --> 01:45:19,453
Speaker 4: your next book for us this morning, The Infinite Sadness

1953
01:45:19,453 --> 01:45:21,573
Speaker 4: of Small Appliances by Glenn Dixon.

1954
01:45:22,853 --> 01:45:26,653
Speaker 19: So this is quite a dystopian story, a little bit

1955
01:45:26,693 --> 01:45:29,573
Speaker 19: on the cozy side, actually, and it's about a bunch

1956
01:45:29,613 --> 01:45:34,093
Speaker 19: of household appliances, in particular this very naive and curious

1957
01:45:34,573 --> 01:45:39,013
Speaker 19: roomba called Scout, and she lives in this comfortable home

1958
01:45:39,133 --> 01:45:42,093
Speaker 19: with Harold and Edie and it's been perfect for raising

1959
01:45:42,133 --> 01:45:44,893
Speaker 19: their family, which they've now done, and Kate's an adult.

1960
01:45:45,293 --> 01:45:48,493
Speaker 19: They're both retired and they're really enjoying their years together.

1961
01:45:48,973 --> 01:45:52,253
Speaker 19: But then Edie becomes ill and the small appliances around

1962
01:45:52,293 --> 01:45:54,773
Speaker 19: the house start to notice and they start to try

1963
01:45:54,773 --> 01:45:58,213
Speaker 19: and help out more and despite the circumstances of her

1964
01:45:58,253 --> 01:46:00,493
Speaker 19: declining house, sort of, the first half of the book

1965
01:46:00,493 --> 01:46:03,853
Speaker 19: has a very relaxed feel and your kind of the

1966
01:46:03,893 --> 01:46:07,133
Speaker 19: appliances are engaging, but you know, apart from Harrold struggling

1967
01:46:07,213 --> 01:46:09,733
Speaker 19: to come to terms with what's happening with his wife.

1968
01:46:10,053 --> 01:46:12,413
Speaker 19: And then the story progresses a little more and Kate

1969
01:46:12,533 --> 01:46:17,093
Speaker 19: returns home to help her dad and through what's going

1970
01:46:17,133 --> 01:46:20,853
Speaker 19: on with Edie, and this story actually becomes far more dystopian,

1971
01:46:21,413 --> 01:46:24,453
Speaker 19: and you get this into this character, this overseeing entity

1972
01:46:24,493 --> 01:46:26,733
Speaker 19: called the Grid, and it's monitoring the home and the

1973
01:46:26,773 --> 01:46:31,333
Speaker 19: inhabitants and these human feelings, and the appliances quickly figure

1974
01:46:31,373 --> 01:46:33,773
Speaker 19: out that the overarge in Grid won't let Harol and

1975
01:46:33,813 --> 01:46:36,533
Speaker 19: his appliance has stayed together in this house and they're

1976
01:46:36,533 --> 01:46:39,333
Speaker 19: trying to keep their humans happy and cared for. And

1977
01:46:39,373 --> 01:46:41,373
Speaker 19: you get multiple points of view that include lots of

1978
01:46:41,453 --> 01:46:44,453
Speaker 19: humans and a very spark vacuum cleaner of course, which

1979
01:46:44,493 --> 01:46:47,693
Speaker 19: is Scout, and there's quirky and it's a very touching

1980
01:46:47,773 --> 01:46:50,573
Speaker 19: read and it makes you think about things, particularly things

1981
01:46:50,653 --> 01:46:54,013
Speaker 19: like II. And then every time you call for Alexa

1982
01:46:54,133 --> 01:46:56,533
Speaker 19: or Google to do something that's very personalized for you,

1983
01:46:56,573 --> 01:46:58,533
Speaker 19: it certainly make you think about it. After you've read this.

1984
01:46:58,493 --> 01:47:01,333
Speaker 4: Book, Oh very good. Okay, this sounds fun. The Infinite

1985
01:47:01,333 --> 01:47:04,333
Speaker 4: Sadness of Small Appliance is by Glenn Dixon. Catherine's first

1986
01:47:04,333 --> 01:47:07,173
Speaker 4: book is The Keeper by Tanna Friends. All the dates are,

1987
01:47:07,173 --> 01:47:10,733
Speaker 4: of course, at newstalksb dot co Dot. Indeed, we're off

1988
01:47:10,733 --> 01:47:13,053
Speaker 4: to Coachella next.

1989
01:47:13,453 --> 01:47:17,053
Speaker 1: Where the weekend finds its rhythm. Saturday morning with Jack

1990
01:47:17,133 --> 01:47:20,533
Speaker 1: Tame on News Talks, it'd be well.

1991
01:47:20,413 --> 01:47:29,453
Speaker 23: You've quite an impression, Saffy to be you wonder why

1992
01:47:29,693 --> 01:47:31,013
Speaker 23: it is closed.

1993
01:47:30,533 --> 01:47:33,613
Speaker 7: When miss and my god, he's weird.

1994
01:47:33,973 --> 01:47:41,573
Speaker 2: There's none gone, but you're still next to me, bonded,

1995
01:47:41,653 --> 01:47:43,733
Speaker 2: great separation.

1996
01:47:45,413 --> 01:47:47,213
Speaker 23: You're got together, and.

1997
01:47:47,533 --> 01:47:49,813
Speaker 14: It's true you'll just.

1998
01:47:49,973 --> 01:47:56,173
Speaker 23: Have to chase me when kissing me you're forever then

1999
01:47:56,573 --> 01:47:58,573
Speaker 23: you do know you want to.

2000
01:47:58,733 --> 01:48:04,653
Speaker 4: Chase me to stalk the brain carpenter and taste. She

2001
01:48:04,813 --> 01:48:07,013
Speaker 4: is one of the headliners at Coachella this weekend. Our

2002
01:48:07,133 --> 01:48:10,013
Speaker 4: music review Chris Schultz isn't there in person, but he's

2003
01:48:10,053 --> 01:48:12,013
Speaker 4: there in spirit and he will certainly be there on

2004
01:48:12,053 --> 01:48:13,013
Speaker 4: the live stream.

2005
01:48:13,293 --> 01:48:16,413
Speaker 24: One hundred percent. This to me is the TV event

2006
01:48:16,453 --> 01:48:18,493
Speaker 24: of the year. You can forget about Game of Thrones

2007
01:48:18,573 --> 01:48:21,933
Speaker 24: or the White Loaders or whatever it is, stranger things.

2008
01:48:22,013 --> 01:48:24,733
Speaker 24: This every year, to me is just that this is

2009
01:48:24,773 --> 01:48:25,213
Speaker 24: where I am.

2010
01:48:25,453 --> 01:48:27,733
Speaker 4: Okay, this is going to upset you. I've never never

2011
01:48:27,853 --> 01:48:30,693
Speaker 4: watched the Coachella live stream. I've never done it. No, okay,

2012
01:48:30,773 --> 01:48:32,493
Speaker 4: so slid to me, give us the cell.

2013
01:48:32,733 --> 01:48:33,413
Speaker 2: It's so I.

2014
01:48:33,333 --> 01:48:35,773
Speaker 24: Cannot believe they're not charging for this thing. If you've

2015
01:48:35,773 --> 01:48:38,293
Speaker 24: got an Internet connection and a YouTube account, you can

2016
01:48:38,333 --> 01:48:42,133
Speaker 24: watch the seven stages. There's seven channels all streaming this

2017
01:48:42,253 --> 01:48:46,493
Speaker 24: festival live. It is a chance to see where all

2018
01:48:46,533 --> 01:48:49,173
Speaker 24: of the biggest artists in the world are at, and

2019
01:48:49,613 --> 01:48:53,253
Speaker 24: artists are made or broken on that stage. Sublime played

2020
01:48:53,293 --> 01:48:56,733
Speaker 24: Auckland last night with their new singer who debuted at

2021
01:48:56,733 --> 01:49:01,413
Speaker 24: Coachella last year. Like they're booked based on these performances,

2022
01:49:01,453 --> 01:49:03,493
Speaker 24: and so many have gone down in a history box

2023
01:49:03,533 --> 01:49:06,893
Speaker 24: outcasts Reunited, They're raging into the machine reunited there. Yeah,

2024
01:49:07,013 --> 01:49:10,853
Speaker 24: they had an easy hologram play with n w A

2025
01:49:11,053 --> 01:49:11,693
Speaker 24: one year.

2026
01:49:11,893 --> 01:49:12,413
Speaker 4: I remember that.

2027
01:49:12,573 --> 01:49:12,773
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2028
01:49:12,853 --> 01:49:13,093
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2029
01:49:13,133 --> 01:49:16,013
Speaker 24: So there's so much happening, and there's always he surprises this.

2030
01:49:16,533 --> 01:49:18,933
Speaker 24: The big thing this year is Justin Bieber. Right, he

2031
01:49:19,013 --> 01:49:23,333
Speaker 24: hasn't played live on the scale for I want to say,

2032
01:49:23,453 --> 01:49:26,613
Speaker 24: seven or eight years. He canceled in New Zealand.

2033
01:49:26,373 --> 01:49:30,373
Speaker 4: Towards health problems. Yeah, there were.

2034
01:49:30,413 --> 01:49:34,373
Speaker 24: Rumors of mental health issues. He's he's back, he's headlining. Yeah,

2035
01:49:34,613 --> 01:49:36,893
Speaker 24: everyone expects him to be showing up in a very

2036
01:49:36,933 --> 01:49:40,133
Speaker 24: different way. He played one song at the Grammys. It

2037
01:49:40,173 --> 01:49:43,653
Speaker 24: was spectacular, shirtless. He came out almost like an ad

2038
01:49:43,693 --> 01:49:45,493
Speaker 24: sharing with a Luke Peter and guitar, and it was

2039
01:49:46,213 --> 01:49:48,413
Speaker 24: kind of it was stunning. It was so raw. It

2040
01:49:48,413 --> 01:49:50,813
Speaker 24: was like Justin Bieber, We've never seen him before. The

2041
01:49:50,893 --> 01:49:52,973
Speaker 24: rumors are that he's going to do the whole set

2042
01:49:53,333 --> 01:49:53,693
Speaker 24: like that.

2043
01:49:54,013 --> 01:49:54,373
Speaker 4: Wow.

2044
01:49:54,453 --> 01:49:57,453
Speaker 24: Whether he can do that for ninety minutes, I don't know,

2045
01:49:57,573 --> 01:49:59,693
Speaker 24: but I'm definitely going to be watching to find out.

2046
01:49:59,773 --> 01:50:01,613
Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be amazing. So how does it work? Like

2047
01:50:01,973 --> 01:50:03,973
Speaker 4: when you're watching it at home? Do you You just

2048
01:50:04,533 --> 01:50:05,933
Speaker 4: set up in the lounge.

2049
01:50:05,573 --> 01:50:08,173
Speaker 24: And no one's umping into you. There's no smelly dude

2050
01:50:08,173 --> 01:50:09,173
Speaker 24: with a shirt off.

2051
01:50:08,973 --> 01:50:12,933
Speaker 4: Next you, The drinks are cold, always a portal or

2052
01:50:12,933 --> 01:50:14,213
Speaker 4: anything like, the snakes.

2053
01:50:13,893 --> 01:50:15,733
Speaker 24: Are great, and you don't have that pomo where you've

2054
01:50:15,733 --> 01:50:18,133
Speaker 24: got to run, Like my legs are still sore from

2055
01:50:18,133 --> 01:50:20,573
Speaker 24: the summer festival season. You don't have to run from

2056
01:50:20,573 --> 01:50:21,693
Speaker 24: stage to stage.

2057
01:50:21,733 --> 01:50:22,453
Speaker 11: You just flick the.

2058
01:50:22,413 --> 01:50:24,213
Speaker 24: Channel and there are ads. Look, if you don't have

2059
01:50:24,213 --> 01:50:28,133
Speaker 24: a YouTube premium account, there'll be an L two pop up.

2060
01:50:28,173 --> 01:50:31,573
Speaker 24: But there is so many good acts like today right

2061
01:50:31,653 --> 01:50:34,253
Speaker 24: you can see the x X, the Strokes are playing,

2062
01:50:34,413 --> 01:50:36,453
Speaker 24: Turnstyle are playing. I mean, these are some of the

2063
01:50:36,453 --> 01:50:39,053
Speaker 24: biggest acts in the world right now. Yeah, it's all

2064
01:50:39,093 --> 01:50:42,693
Speaker 24: happening over three days, and it's all happening again next weekend,

2065
01:50:42,693 --> 01:50:45,653
Speaker 24: which is also live streams, So that's amazing.

2066
01:50:45,653 --> 01:50:47,733
Speaker 4: How they do that day, how they they do it.

2067
01:50:48,053 --> 01:50:49,933
Speaker 4: They have it over a weekend, then have a bit

2068
01:50:49,973 --> 01:50:52,093
Speaker 4: of a cleanup and then have another go again.

2069
01:50:52,533 --> 01:50:53,373
Speaker 24: It's it's wild.

2070
01:50:53,533 --> 01:50:53,733
Speaker 17: Yeah.

2071
01:50:54,133 --> 01:50:56,253
Speaker 24: The only festival on that scale in New Zealand is

2072
01:50:56,293 --> 01:50:58,653
Speaker 24: Electric Avenue. That may sort of get to that at

2073
01:50:58,653 --> 01:51:01,613
Speaker 24: one point, but in terms of live stream being no

2074
01:51:01,693 --> 01:51:04,133
Speaker 24: one does it like Coachella and all eyes are on

2075
01:51:04,133 --> 01:51:06,053
Speaker 24: this festival. You know, there are bigger festivals around the world.

2076
01:51:06,213 --> 01:51:09,813
Speaker 24: Is Lastonbury's and all those big European festivals. I think

2077
01:51:09,893 --> 01:51:12,733
Speaker 24: Coachell is about one hundred and twenty five thousand each weekend.

2078
01:51:12,853 --> 01:51:17,373
Speaker 24: But it's the one, It's the one everyone watches. This

2079
01:51:17,133 --> 01:51:19,413
Speaker 24: is this is where artists you find out where they

2080
01:51:19,413 --> 01:51:21,933
Speaker 24: are and where they're at and who really is running

2081
01:51:21,933 --> 01:51:22,413
Speaker 24: this game?

2082
01:51:22,573 --> 01:51:25,493
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I mean there are dozens and dozens of artists,

2083
01:51:25,493 --> 01:51:27,893
Speaker 4: But who would be standing out for you this weekend

2084
01:51:27,933 --> 01:51:30,293
Speaker 4: if you were there in person or I guess who

2085
01:51:30,293 --> 01:51:33,293
Speaker 4: will we be prioritizing on your stream with your seven

2086
01:51:33,333 --> 01:51:34,053
Speaker 4: different stages.

2087
01:51:34,253 --> 01:51:36,613
Speaker 24: The x X are back after eight years. They're that

2088
01:51:36,733 --> 01:51:39,173
Speaker 24: the cure gentle indie.

2089
01:51:38,853 --> 01:51:42,773
Speaker 25: Rock music, or that was that The first couple of

2090
01:51:42,813 --> 01:51:45,253
Speaker 25: albums were very stripped back, Like the whole kind of

2091
01:51:45,373 --> 01:51:47,493
Speaker 25: thing was they were very insular that locked themselves in

2092
01:51:47,493 --> 01:51:49,133
Speaker 25: a room and have these kind of quiet but.

2093
01:51:49,373 --> 01:51:52,253
Speaker 24: Almost like on the phone, the conversations to each other.

2094
01:51:52,373 --> 01:51:55,253
Speaker 24: It's so intimate. I think that will really work in

2095
01:51:55,293 --> 01:51:58,093
Speaker 24: a large scale setting now, like we've seen that intimately

2096
01:51:58,213 --> 01:52:00,453
Speaker 24: on a grand scale work with artists like Freda Gin

2097
01:52:00,533 --> 01:52:03,333
Speaker 24: and Lord, and I think they have time there run back.

2098
01:52:03,373 --> 01:52:05,173
Speaker 24: I saw some live footage from a warm up show

2099
01:52:05,213 --> 01:52:08,653
Speaker 24: they did, and they just look in magnificent form. I

2100
01:52:08,733 --> 01:52:12,093
Speaker 24: really want to see the nine inch Noise Dance mesh Up,

2101
01:52:12,093 --> 01:52:15,813
Speaker 24: which is Trent Resner's industrial rock act turned into a

2102
01:52:15,973 --> 01:52:19,813
Speaker 24: rave as You Do, As You Do Aggy Pops Yeah play,

2103
01:52:20,533 --> 01:52:23,813
Speaker 24: which is he must be the seventh birthday. Yeah, on

2104
01:52:23,893 --> 01:52:25,773
Speaker 24: the bill he still takes his shirt off. He was

2105
01:52:25,813 --> 01:52:27,173
Speaker 24: here just recently doing it.

2106
01:52:27,253 --> 01:52:28,013
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2107
01:52:28,093 --> 01:52:31,053
Speaker 24: Yeah, I mean there's just so much clips on the

2108
01:52:31,053 --> 01:52:35,013
Speaker 24: final day of playing Sabrina Carpenter. I mean, my daughter's

2109
01:52:35,053 --> 01:52:36,653
Speaker 24: going to be sitting there watching that for sure.

2110
01:52:36,733 --> 01:52:40,213
Speaker 4: So yeah, Geese they're playing here having you've seen them recently,

2111
01:52:40,253 --> 01:52:44,013
Speaker 4: I know. But yeah, okay, yeah, massive weekend at coach Ali.

2112
01:52:44,133 --> 01:52:45,693
Speaker 4: Do you know what time it starts? New Zealand time?

2113
01:52:45,773 --> 01:52:48,373
Speaker 24: It's all right now? Oh literally getting in my car

2114
01:52:48,413 --> 01:52:51,093
Speaker 24: after this, heading straight home and getting some sex.

2115
01:52:51,173 --> 01:52:51,213
Speaker 8: Go.

2116
01:52:51,973 --> 01:52:52,653
Speaker 4: It's so good.

2117
01:52:52,733 --> 01:52:52,973
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2118
01:52:53,013 --> 01:52:54,493
Speaker 4: I love the I love the thought of you your

2119
01:52:54,533 --> 01:52:56,293
Speaker 4: family coming up to you across the weekend and you

2120
01:52:56,453 --> 01:52:58,693
Speaker 4: just like parking up in front of the TV and

2121
01:52:58,733 --> 01:53:01,013
Speaker 4: getting the different streams going. Does sound amazing? Okay, we're

2122
01:53:01,013 --> 01:53:02,693
Speaker 4: going to play. I reckon play. But to Justin Bieber

2123
01:53:02,693 --> 01:53:04,253
Speaker 4: in a couple of minutes, I was very mean to

2124
01:53:04,373 --> 01:53:06,013
Speaker 4: Justin Bieber a few minutes ago. But actually, you know

2125
01:53:06,093 --> 01:53:08,493
Speaker 4: what I like some of his music. I'm not embarrassed

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Speaker 24: I think after this weekend, everyone's opinions of him are

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Speaker 24: going to be changed. If he can pull us off,

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Speaker 24: it's going to be a very different from it.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, very good.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well look enjoy coach, Hello weekend, and we will

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Speaker 4: catch you again very soon. That is Chris Schultz. Of course

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Speaker 4: you can hear more from Chris on his substack. His

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Speaker 4: substack is boiler Room. We're back with the Beabs in

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Speaker 4: a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: Sweet ass listening for your Saturday Saturday morning with Jack

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Speaker 17: He be.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much for tuning in for all of

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Speaker 4: your texts and emails throughout the morning, Jason Pies with

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Speaker 4: us before we can sport this afternoon, and for everything

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Speaker 4: wonderful producers Libby and Heidi for doing the tough stuff

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Speaker 4: this morning. We're going to leave you with Justin Bieber.

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Speaker 4: I'm just letting you know the Artemis two mission has begun.

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Speaker 4: Its re entry process. So these are the all important

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Speaker 4: in twelve or thirteen minutes before splash down. The live

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Speaker 4: stream on YouTube is pretty spectaculous. You might want to

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Speaker 4: watch that if you can. I bet with you Nick

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Speaker 4: Saturday morning and tell them we're gonna leave you with

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Speaker 4: Justin Bieber. He's playing Coachella. This is Love Yourself season and.

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Speaker 7: The Fuesdays that I'm still holding on to something. You

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Speaker 7: should go and love yourself. When you told me that

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Speaker 7: she'll hate it, my friends, the only problem was with

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Speaker 7: you and not them. And every time you told me

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Speaker 7: in my opinion was wrong, I try to make me

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Speaker 7: forget where I came from. And I didn't want to

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Speaker 7: write it song because I didn't want anyone thinking I

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Speaker 7: still care. Don't, but you still hit my phone, UF

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Speaker 7: and baby, I'll be moving on, and I think it

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Speaker 7: should be something that I don't want to hold back.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you should know.

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Speaker 7: That my mom I don't like you and she likes everyone.

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Speaker 13: And I never.

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Speaker 7: Lied to admit that I was wrong. And I've been

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Speaker 7: so caught up in my job did to see what's

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Speaker 7: going on, And now I know I've had to stay

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Speaker 7: being all my elcus. If you like the way you

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Speaker 7: look that must. Oh baby, you should go and love yourself.

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Speaker 7: And if you think that I'm still holding on to something,

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Speaker 7: you should go and love yourself. Other times that you

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Speaker 7: made me feel small, I fell in love. Now I

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Speaker 7: feel nothing at all. I never felt so low when

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Speaker 7: I was growing up?

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Speaker 13: Was I our food?

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Speaker 7: Something that you break down my balls? Because if you're

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Speaker 7: the way you look down much, oh baby, you should.

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Speaker 13: Go and love yourself.

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Speaker 7: And the few things that I'm still holding on to something,

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Speaker 7: you should go and lock yourself. Because if you're like

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Speaker 7: the way you look down much, so babies should go

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Speaker 7: and lock yourself. And the few things you think that

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Speaker 7: still holding no to something, you should go and lock yourself.

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