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Speaker 1: Britain, we go Roderi Kitt good morning, my frame, Good

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Speaker 1: morning to you mate. I've been looking at pictures in

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Speaker 1: East London. There seem to be protests about protests, so

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Speaker 1: the anti racist protesters are out after the racist protesters

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Speaker 1: have been out, So you've got a lot of protests

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Speaker 1: going on.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's a summer of protests. It's nice weather. The

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Speaker 2: weather forecast actually is rained for the next few days,

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Speaker 2: so we might see the protests dying down a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we've had the full frontal attacks from the

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Speaker 2: far right which have resulted in chaos in a few

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Speaker 2: places middles for a, Sunderland, Harleypool, Liverpool to a degree.

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Speaker 2: And now we're seeing the other side of things. And

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Speaker 2: we're also seeing a kind of re energized Asian population

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Speaker 2: attacking white folk wherever they see them. So it's all

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Speaker 2: very cholly over here.

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Speaker 1: You ought to drop by, well said, it's funny you

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Speaker 1: should say that we have an issued one yet, but

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Speaker 1: Australia hasn't. About four other countries there are sort of

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Speaker 1: trail warnings going out about the UK. Would somebody like

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Speaker 1: key As Starmer be worried about the international reputation of Britain.

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Speaker 2: At the moment he should be. His response to this

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Speaker 2: hasn't been great. It's been kind of knee jerked. This

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Speaker 2: is the far right, this is the far right, Well,

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Speaker 2: it's not quite. It's both more and less than that,

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Speaker 2: with not an awful lot of it is coming from

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Speaker 2: football hooligans, but that nonetheless, underneath all that lies a

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Speaker 2: deep dissatisfaction in the disenfranchised towns of the Northeast and

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Speaker 2: Northwest that they haven't been listened to properly about issues

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Speaker 2: such as immigration, that their towns have changed in front

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Speaker 2: of them, and that they've been cut out of the equation.

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Speaker 2: There seems to be no shrift whatsoever given to them

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Speaker 2: by Sophia Starma and that has I think it's affected

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Speaker 2: as opinion poll ratings, which are already well well well down.

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Speaker 2: The Holleymoon is definitely over.

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Speaker 1: What is the sense of how the police are handling this.

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Speaker 2: Not too bad? There is a the allegation that's always

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Speaker 2: been made as this is two tier policing, that whilst

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Speaker 2: the police are quite heavy handed when it comes to

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Speaker 2: dealing with these particular protesters, they were nothing like as

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Speaker 2: bad when the pro Palestinian protesters were in London or

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Speaker 2: indeed the extinction rebellion protesters. That being said, the extinction

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Speaker 2: rebellion protesters and the Palestinians didn't on the whole set

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Speaker 2: fire to cars and try to break down people's doors.

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Speaker 2: So I think the robustness of the police isn't really

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Speaker 2: an issue at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Is the system able to cope because one of Labour's

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Speaker 1: policies was to more the new government's policies was to

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Speaker 1: lit people out of prison early because there were too

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Speaker 1: many people in prison and they couldn't hold them anymore.

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Speaker 1: But I'm looking at looking at old Liam Ryan who

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Speaker 1: burst into tears and caught at age forty to day

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Speaker 1: to be seen away. If they seen all these people

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Speaker 1: away to jail the way they claim is a room

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Speaker 1: the jaw of seen all these people away.

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Speaker 2: Well, according to Starmer, he's freed up five hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty odd places in prisons for these people to go to,

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Speaker 2: and five hundred and forty should just about to deal

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Speaker 2: with this. So you look at Middlesbrough, which was one

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Speaker 2: of the worst riots, forty odd people arrested. My guesses

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Speaker 2: that of those you know, maybe five to ten will

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Speaker 2: get custodial sentences. So if he's right and he has

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Speaker 2: freed up there, I don't know how he's done that,

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Speaker 2: by the way, but if he has freed up five

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five hundred and forty places, then he

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Speaker 2: should be just about okay.

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Speaker 1: What about these so called keyboard warriors that the police

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Speaker 1: keep talking about, and you know, the old Tommy's who's

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Speaker 1: on holiday wherever he's on holiday, do they actually ever

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Speaker 1: catch up with him or is that just just verbiage?

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Speaker 2: I think it's just verbuge. I mean, they're undoubtedly right that.

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Speaker 2: You know, all of these rights have been organized through Facebook,

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Speaker 2: very straightforward. I've seen the clarion call which went out

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Speaker 2: in Middlesbrough, ill spelled full of emojis, come and fight

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Speaker 2: for Britain, Come and fight for Britain and all that

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Speaker 2: kind of stuff. So social media has been absolutely vically

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Speaker 2: dissimilating the message of sedition out to the public. Tommy Robinson, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he is still I think, selling himself on a beach

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Speaker 2: in Cyprus, right. I don't know if he's planning to

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Speaker 2: come back. My guess is if he does come back,

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Speaker 2: he'll probably be arrested, though what for I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, make a call Rod. As we've said here talking

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Speaker 1: to you on this Thursday morning, when we ring you

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Speaker 1: next week, is it over or we still got a problem.

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Speaker 2: I think over. I think over, But we still have

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Speaker 2: a problem underneath about the levels of immigration and the

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Speaker 2: decent people. The person who said to me in Middlesbrough yesterday,

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Speaker 2: which was there's no sense in torturing cars, there's no

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Speaker 2: sense in beating up hard working immigrants who've come here

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Speaker 2: and devoted their lives to the community. But we've got

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Speaker 2: to talk about immigration and stop being called racist.

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Speaker 1: What we do, all right, Rob, appreciate it. Rod a

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Speaker 1: little back on next Tuesday.

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