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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Veda, Retirement Communities, Life Your

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Speaker 2: Wedding him Welcome today. Banks come to the party to

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Speaker 2: make it easier for some first home buyers. We got

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Speaker 2: a new bill to make it easier potentially to buy

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Speaker 2: a farm. We've got new stats around how many kids

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Speaker 2: are getting educated these days from home. The PM is

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Speaker 2: in fresh from the week of cast distribution leading up

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Speaker 2: to the budget. The lads and the commentary box up

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Speaker 2: for rape. Richard arm Steve Price, they're part of it

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Speaker 2: all as well, pasking welcome to a new week. Seven

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Speaker 2: past six. The money market didn't seem to indicate that

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins were in with the chance. They were not

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Speaker 2: the favorites, but they weren't paying crazy money either, and

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Speaker 2: so it turned out to be I suppose reminding us

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Speaker 2: the old saying that you need to follow the money

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Speaker 2: that tends to be right. Although for most of the

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Speaker 2: game there was little doubt that we were the better side.

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Speaker 2: Of course, not a lot of points for most of it,

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Speaker 2: but as the commentator said at one stage, an enthralling game,

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Speaker 2: and I thought he was probably right. Fisher Harris is awesome,

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Speaker 2: but to e vasishek also back in the side, didn't

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Speaker 2: seem to make the impact you might have hoped for. Really,

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Speaker 2: it was all over until the Dotin started scoring in

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Speaker 2: a Warriors of Old kind of way. One try, that's

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Speaker 2: nothing too, try a bit of a sniff, and then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden they were back. But the biggest

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Speaker 2: opponent was no longer US, but the clock, and they

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Speaker 2: ran out of time. They called it a nail bitter.

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Speaker 2: I suppose it was, but I didn't really have any doubt.

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Speaker 2: And what's interesting now if you look at the table,

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Speaker 2: is there's quite the gap between the top two or

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Speaker 2: three and the rest of the competition. The Bulldogs won,

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Speaker 2: and they won well in a thriller, so the gap

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Speaker 2: the gap between US and the include the Raiders if

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Speaker 2: you like, and the rest of the field. It's multi game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's normally a raizer thin points, ladders looking

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Speaker 2: rest are languishing trying to work out how to match US.

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Speaker 2: If things continue, then Week twenty three is the one

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Speaker 2: to look out for Week twenty three. It's going to

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Speaker 2: be one for the ages, the Bulldogs via the Warrior's

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Speaker 2: House sold outs. That can to be, But for now

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Speaker 2: we march on. As always, you can find things to

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Speaker 2: work on. I guess should we have leaked those final points?

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Speaker 2: Should it have been that close? Should Fisher Harris have

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Speaker 2: been sent off and left with twelve? But also, as always,

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Speaker 2: what counts as the result, and we won. We won again.

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Speaker 2: We keep winning. We really are really, really good and

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Speaker 2: it's a thrill to watch. And yes, as each week passes,

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Speaker 2: it looks more and more like this is our year.

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Speaker 1: The world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: And the good of gathered in Rome for the new

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Speaker 2: Pope's and augural mass.

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Speaker 3: Comes out to the laudial.

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Speaker 4: In this a time, we still see too much discord,

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Speaker 4: too many wounds caused by hatred, violence, prejudice, and an

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Speaker 4: economic system that exploits the Earth's resources and marginalizes the poorest.

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Speaker 2: US President hitting the phones tomorrow, he tells us to

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Speaker 2: at least have a crack and a bit of Ukrainian peace. Meantime,

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Speaker 2: back in Gazan, no sign of anything good.

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Speaker 5: In the Alamas, the area this morning where thirty six

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Speaker 5: to describe in words what's happening here. The constant sound

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Speaker 2: Then from the EU they're and talks with the British

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Speaker 2: liber at post bricks sort of deal that although it

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Speaker 2: looks a lot like pre bricks, it isn't.

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Speaker 6: You want to emerge with a deal. As I say that,

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Speaker 6: we can say it makes our borders more secures, bringing

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Speaker 6: is good for jobs and growth, and he's bringing people's

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Speaker 6: household bills down. That is what is in our national

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Speaker 2: Tory is not convinced.

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Speaker 7: We may well be looking at a scheme which allows

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Speaker 7: thirty year olds to come over and claim access to

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Speaker 7: the NHS on day one, to claim benefits on day one,

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Speaker 2: More detail over the weekend, yet again reinforcing the fact

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Speaker 2: that Biden didn't have a clue what was going on

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Speaker 8: So this is I'm at this stage two thousand man.

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Speaker 9: It felt like maybe that there was something wrong from

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Speaker 2: Unfounded. Finally, a new study out of the UK's found

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Speaker 2: is fear that could be removed completely from grammar. The

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Speaker 2: well being a bit snooty, while one author described it

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Speaker 2: that as news of the world. In ninety Moodies, I

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Speaker 2: We've gone double A one, So more on that in

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Speaker 2: A lot of democracy going on this morning, and Romania

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Speaker 2: Romanian situation's fascinating. This is the runoff for the presidential race.

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Speaker 2: six from Joy my Wealth Andrew Callah, very good morning,

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Speaker 2: you got morning, Mic. So the good news, let's start

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Speaker 2: with the good news manufacturing as opposed to consumer confidence,

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Speaker 10: It is, Hey, before we do that, though, fifteen dollars

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Speaker 2: What are the bulldogs paying?

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Speaker 11: Not sure I think, but they're all about they're all less.

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Speaker 11: Anyway, let's talk manufacturing.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, this is also going to start the week on

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Speaker 10: a positive note because last week we had some sort

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Speaker 11: Spending that was a bit weaker than we thought.

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Speaker 10: So we've got the green shoots that we're not really

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Speaker 10: following through with the spending. There was a number of

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Speaker 10: any material momentum in the recovery of New Zealand's economy.

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Speaker 10: So that was a little bit of a downer, But

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Speaker 10: manufacturing's not. I mean a year ago it was looking

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Speaker 10: That is an uptick in an already expanding sector. So

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Speaker 10: then I look into the subcategories production, new orders, employment,

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Speaker 10: all in positive territory.

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Speaker 11: As I said, a year.

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Speaker 10: a really good indication that there is a manufacturing recovery.

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Speaker 11: We can't ignore that.

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Speaker 10: good and manufacturers looking good. But Mike, I think global

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Speaker 10: that whether or not we can keep that momentum going

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Speaker 11: Not but on an international comparison, we look good.

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Speaker 10: JP Morgan global manufacturing PMI is at forty.

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Speaker 10: Now, admittedly, the global sort of tariff uncertainty that'll be

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Speaker 11: That seems reasonable. Look, it's just not.

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Speaker 10: A good sign that inflation expectations are lifting. I think

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Speaker 11: They'll also have to weigh up what I was.

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Speaker 10: Talking about before the headlines the concerns around the tariff

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Speaker 10: on these responses. But Mike, you look at that selected

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Speaker 10: the abbey and said, the good thing, Mike is on

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Speaker 10: twenty eight to May next week, we'll get an answer

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Speaker 10: to this, or potentially.

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Speaker 11: Get an answer.

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Speaker 2: We will double A plus A yeah.

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Speaker 10: US federal government credit rating A change seems dramatic, doesn't it.

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Speaker 10: But this is Moody going from triple A to double

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Speaker 10: A plus. But that just moves Moody in line with

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Speaker 10: the other credit agencies. I mean Fitch downgrade at the

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Speaker 13: I think the government are just being absolute losers, and

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Speaker 2: trouble over the weekend. That eat the tariffs thing? Does

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Speaker 2: We all know that tariffs are passed on. They passed

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Speaker 2: the old will you can eat the traffs. Other thing

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Speaker 12: Where this goes, but we'll get the update with Richard

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Speaker 2: Meantime, the news is next. It's Monday morning on the

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Speaker 2: Mike Hoskin Bricks to your Homes five years dumb mill,

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Speaker 2: the news end.

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Speaker 1: The news makers, the Mi Hosking breakfast with the range

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Speaker 2: B The Fan's economy contracted more than they thought, which

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Speaker 12: You's twenty three minutes away from seven Richard Island, Stateside.

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Speaker 2: We've got a man named in the Palm Springs attack

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Speaker 2: that they call terror over the weekend, and of course

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Speaker 2: beyond gaing business of the tariffs, and we've got the

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Speaker 2: off as usual. Meantime, back here, some banks are coming

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Speaker 2: to the first time biased party rules are being relaxed

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Speaker 2: around borrowers using flatmates to pay the mortgage. Right, So

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Speaker 2: it used to be that you needed sign documentation from

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Speaker 2: the flatmate, but now a declaration of intent is all

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Speaker 2: that's needed now Resident economists at Opus Partners Ed mcnighters

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Speaker 2: will us d morning to you.

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Speaker 14: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming based on the idea that really you're not

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Speaker 2: banks and lie to them, and that if you want

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Speaker 2: pay it, and you're not going to be a fool

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Speaker 15: That's genuously the case, and I think it was a

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Speaker 15: bit tough. Previously we had to sign up a flatmate

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Speaker 15: just saying hey, look I'm planning on getting a flat mat,

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Speaker 15: I'll do it once I buy the house, I think

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Speaker 15: that makes it much easier.

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Speaker 14: I did that myself when I've bought my first.

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Speaker 15: Home, rather than having to find the flatmate before you

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Speaker 2: Is the fragility of the arrangement a problem. I mean,

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Speaker 15: Well, there's a lot of stress tests in the bank's

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Speaker 15: you'll probably pay about five percent interest rate, but the

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Speaker 15: seven percent already. There's quite a bit of fat and

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Speaker 15: the bank's mortgage application. So just trading a few of

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Speaker 15: the rules around flatmates, I don't think it's going to

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Speaker 2: Does it make a big difference when you juxtapose it

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Speaker 12: And all of that.

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Speaker 15: It makes a difference, but perhaps not as much as

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Speaker 15: people actually take on more debt compared to their incomes.

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Speaker 15: The first home buyers, it's the deposit holding them back.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how much of this driver is driving business for

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Speaker 15: Well, this is a part of a general trend where

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Speaker 15: very good thing. Which is basically, if an Z has

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Speaker 15: We've also seen a little change in terms of interest

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Speaker 14: What else can we do to become the preferred bank

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Speaker 2: What you read on the economic the moment are be

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Speaker 2: What have you got neutral?

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Speaker 15: Two point seventy five percent? Is I think where we're

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Speaker 2: Mic and is it bullish? Out there? Are people wanting money?

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Speaker 15: We're seeing a slow recovery. About seventy four thousand houses

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Speaker 15: We bottomed outed about.

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Speaker 14: Fifty thousand houses, so you know there's an.

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Speaker 15: I think that's the same for the whole of the economy.

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Speaker 15: You're probably hearing it from people yourself, where people are nervous,

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Speaker 15: and I think it's the uncertainty that kills People's giving

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Speaker 2: Not a bad question. I appreciate of Ed mckknight, who's

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Speaker 2: give the numbers. The consumer sentiment side of the equation,

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Speaker 2: manufacturings on the up. That's encouraging consumer those still in

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Speaker 2: expansionary mode, but only just for April. We went from

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Speaker 2: fifty two to two down to fifty point eight. Fifty

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Speaker 2: plus is what you need to see. Second lowest reading

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Speaker 2: on record. Majority of the survey a completed on the

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Speaker 2: business of you know, all the China and deals in

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Speaker 2: the ninety day, et cetera. So just expansionary at fifty

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Speaker 2: point eight at the moment, eighteen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Just going back to Andrew Kellerher who raised the prospect

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Speaker 2: that the Warriors at fifteen bucks and he didn't have

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Speaker 2: the Bulldogs and the Storm number. The Bulldogs at four,

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Speaker 2: the Storm at three. I don't know why the Storm

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Speaker 2: are at three I get the Storm at good but

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Speaker 2: the Bulldogs are better anyway. The Bulldogs at four in

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Speaker 2: the Storm at three, the Warriors at fifteen. That's not

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Speaker 2: bad money, Mike. I got the Warriors at twenty One's

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Speaker 2: same price. I got Crystal Palace full back in January.

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Speaker 2: It's an omen world. I'm Glenn six forty.

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Speaker 1: Five International correspondence with ends an eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Stay time, Richard Arlbery, Good morning, the good one.

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Speaker 8: Are you making now?

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Speaker 2: This big beautiful bill? Five short? Five Republicans bailed? So

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Speaker 2: what happens now?

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Speaker 14: Well and I go.

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Speaker 8: This is Trump facing some pretty strong headwinds after his

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Speaker 8: return from Limited East celebrations on his key legislative plan

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Speaker 8: revolved by this handful of members of his own party

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Speaker 8: blocked the advancement out of committee, a cause for locking

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Speaker 8: into place tax cunts, which mostly benefit the wealthy, although

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Speaker 8: it also calls for no taxes on tips, which was

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Speaker 8: a Trump campaign pledge. But to try and pay for

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Speaker 8: some of the tax cuts and increases in military and

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Speaker 8: immigration enforcement spending, they would seek to cut medical aid

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Speaker 8: and food for the poor, and clean energy initiatives, all

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Speaker 8: to bust the budget even further by another four or

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Speaker 8: five trillion, even as the Moody's Credit agency rating has

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Speaker 8: just been downgraded, taking the United States from the top

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Speaker 8: level to the first time. Amid fears over swing debt,

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Speaker 8: Scott Bussanti, Trump Treasury secretary, is dismissing that part of it.

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Speaker 14: I think that Moody's is a lagging indicator. I think

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Speaker 14: that's what everyone thinks of crediting.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, tell that to the bank next time you're going

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Speaker 8: for a loan. Right, So, even if they push for

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Speaker 8: a House vote and managed to get that through, there's

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Speaker 8: a long long way to go in this budget battle.

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Speaker 8: Republican Josh Hawley, who supported the Trump claim about stole

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Speaker 8: an election, says, on cutting healthcare.

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Speaker 12: It is wrong to cut healthcare for the working poor.

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Speaker 14: That's what we're talking about here with Medicaid.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so he is clearly thinking about his own electric

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Speaker 8: and possible future elections. Republican Senator Rand Paul is among

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Speaker 8: several Republicans who say that that should be cut even

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Speaker 8: more than the Trump team is outlining, so somewhat more

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Speaker 8: cuts someone less. On the tariff front, Trump also is

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Speaker 8: slamming Walmart right now. Of course, is country's biggest retailer

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Speaker 8: for proposing price hikes on a lot of their products,

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Speaker 8: which are important because of the Trump tariffs. Trump says

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Speaker 8: Walmart made billions in profits last year, they should quote

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Speaker 8: eat the tariffs. Meantime, on foreign policy, Trump will have

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Speaker 8: separate calls tomorrow with the leaders of Russia and Ukraine.

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Speaker 8: He will speak separately with Olenskia with Putin. Trump's negotiator,

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Speaker 8: Steve Wikoff, is voicing confidence today red Trump his.

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Speaker 16: Sensibility or that he's got to get on the phone

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Speaker 16: with President Putin and that is going to clear up

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Speaker 16: some of the large jam and get us to the

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Speaker 16: place that we need to get to. And I think

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Speaker 16: it's going to be a very successful call.

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Speaker 8: Well, on the eve of what he suggests could be

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Speaker 8: a very successful call, Putin ordered another drone attack on Ukraine,

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Speaker 8: hitting a shuttle bus carrying civilians and killing at least

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Speaker 8: nine people. Later, so Zalenski says, the Russians could not

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Speaker 8: have failed to be aware of what kind of bus

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Speaker 8: they were hacking.

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Speaker 2: And we've got now Palm Springs, we got the name

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Speaker 2: of the blog.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: The FBI has just given an on scene briefing about

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Speaker 8: this car bomb attack on a fertility clinic there. They've

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Speaker 8: named the bomber as twenty five year old Guy Bartkis,

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Speaker 8: who died in the blast. They are searching his family

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Speaker 8: home right now and it's about an hour from the scene.

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Speaker 8: They say this was a terrorist assault and a massive attack,

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Speaker 8: says the FBI's Acculled Davis.

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Speaker 9: This is probably the largest bombing scene that we've had

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Speaker 9: in southern California.

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Speaker 8: So putting it in that perspective, he says, there is

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Speaker 8: debris covering blocks, and the front part of the in

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Speaker 8: vitro clinic, as many will have seen, was completely demolished. Fortunately,

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Speaker 8: no one in the clinic was killed, and says the FBI.

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Speaker 17: You're able to see all of the embryos at this facility.

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Speaker 9: Good guys, one, bad guys, zero.

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Speaker 8: Well, not entirely. Four people on the streets suffered minor

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Speaker 8: injuries in the blasts. Meantime, the FEDS are going through

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Speaker 8: what they say was a manifesto left by this bomber.

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Speaker 8: It ount lies what they describe as an anti natalist

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Speaker 8: ideology of beliefs that no one, no human should have children.

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Speaker 14: So bizarre.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, might see Wednesday. Richard Arl state side, Mike,

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Speaker 2: please ask the big banks next time you get the

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Speaker 2: mon Wide and New Zealand mortgage holders play a higher

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Speaker 2: margin between the ocr and their loan than their Australian counterparts.

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Speaker 2: We've answered this many times on the program. I debate

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Speaker 2: whether the answers real. Part of the argument is because

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Speaker 2: the banks have to hold more money, and that's an

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Speaker 2: adriena or thing. More money for a rainy day, the

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Speaker 2: just in case money, and the more they hold, the

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Speaker 2: higher the margin. And the other argument of courses of

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Speaker 2: Australia's a twenty seven million person market. We're a five

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Speaker 2: million person market, and therefore you can have a bigger argument.

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Speaker 2: The government, the Commerce Commission would argue against it. But

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Speaker 2: it's an ongoing debate. As they say ten to seven, the.

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talks said,

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Speaker 1: be your Piece.

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Speaker 2: Are reported this morning about the hospo sector. I'm increasingly

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Speaker 2: over the hospo sector moaning, and I'm increasingly over bodies

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Speaker 2: that represent groups of the economy in their incessant whining

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Speaker 2: about how miserable life is now In some sectors, life

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Speaker 2: is tough. No one's going to argue that the cost

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Speaker 2: of living crisis hasn't had a lot of us in

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Speaker 2: this economy. I get all of that, but all you

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Speaker 2: ever hear from hospital is how dreadful it is, how

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Speaker 2: everyone's closing, and how none of it's any good. And

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Speaker 2: the reporters this morning is generally suggesting that really things

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Speaker 2: aren't as bad as they make it out. It's not

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Speaker 2: all doom and gloom. And this is specifically out of Wellington,

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Speaker 2: and some are tired of being the post a child

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Speaker 2: for a struggling capital city. So very well said. I've

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Speaker 2: got friends this person who's been quoted, he's in the

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Speaker 2: hospow industry. I have friends who are builders and plumbers

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Speaker 2: and those sectors feel way more hard hit than the

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Speaker 2: hospitality one. Well, that's anecdotal, isn't it. They may or

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Speaker 2: may not be. My increasing impression of the hospitality sector

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Speaker 2: in this country, and this is from personal experience and

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Speaker 2: the experience of francis you can do well, and it's

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Speaker 2: applicable to any sort of business and any sort of

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Speaker 2: sector in this economy. You can do well. But there's

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Speaker 2: a couple of key ingredients in things like hospo and

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Speaker 2: that is you need to be open and so this

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Speaker 2: long weekend business or closing the kitchen at two or

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Speaker 2: three o'clock, or we're not quite open on Sundays or

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Speaker 2: we're a bit tired on Mondays and all that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff. Either open or date. And if you can't

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Speaker 2: be bothered, don't whine. Second of all, you need some

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Speaker 2: good staff. And to get good staff, you need to

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Speaker 2: pay people good money. Then you need to supply good product.

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Speaker 2: And all the places that we deal with and we

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Speaker 2: deal with a number of places on an ongoing and

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Speaker 2: regular basis in all forms of hospitality that's food gathering,

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Speaker 2: whether it be a cup of coffee or biscuits or

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Speaker 2: fruit and vegetables or whatever the case may be. We

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Speaker 2: have a series of people that we could recommend to

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Speaker 2: you that are the top of their game and they're

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Speaker 2: very good at what they do and they are thriving businesses.

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Speaker 2: So can you thrive if you are good at what

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Speaker 2: you do? Yes, you can. And in fact, further on

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Speaker 2: the HOSPO sector in Wellington, the number of operators in

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Speaker 2: Wellington is up three percent on last year, up twelve

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Speaker 2: percent on the past five years, so there are more

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Speaker 2: people in hospow You wouldn't hear that in the news.

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Speaker 2: Often would you five away from seven?

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Speaker 1: All the inns are the ouse, it's the biz with

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Speaker 1: business tiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Related matter state of the old SME market. This is

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Speaker 2: the Prosperous EME Sentiment Tracker report. Forty nine percent, so

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Speaker 2: we'll call that half lack confidence that the budget's going

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Speaker 2: to deliver a meaningful support for them on government support

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Speaker 2: twenty six percent, so they expect positive moves in the

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Speaker 2: budget for small business thirty seven percent don't. Forty percent

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Speaker 2: say the budget announcement, whatever it is, will have a

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Speaker 2: significant impact on their business success. When it comes to

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Speaker 2: the biggest differences, the government can help with tax reform.

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Speaker 2: That's at the top. Thirty nine percent say tax reform.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. Is that less tax?

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Speaker 2: If it is, you'r well, I have I got bad

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Speaker 2: news view. I mean, I haven't seen the budget, but

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Speaker 2: I can tell you there's no tax relief coming. Twenty

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Speaker 2: two percent say government taxes at the highest cost. Twenty

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Speaker 2: five percent want to see more removal of bureaucratic red tape.

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Speaker 2: That's an age old favorite. Fifty seven percent, I've got

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Speaker 2: something slightly upbeaf. Fifty seven percent majority currently rate their

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Speaker 2: business as good or very good. Cash reserves a bit low,

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Speaker 2: aren't they? For everybody really fifty nine percent, so they've

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Speaker 2: got three months or less in cash reserves. Twenty two

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Speaker 2: percent say they're holding less than a month's reserves. Forty

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Speaker 2: three percent say next year's profits remain stable, thirty five

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Speaker 2: percent expecting an increase in profits. So that's not a

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Speaker 2: bad picture all things being considered, however, And that's exactly

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Speaker 2: what I was saying a moment ago. A lot of companies.

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Speaker 2: You look around the wider economy and everyone goes m

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Speaker 2: and then you go, what about your business? You know, actually,

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Speaker 2: yeah know, we're in pretty well funny ah, uncertainly with

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Speaker 2: the markets is rising those expecting an improvement dropping from

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Speaker 2: fifty five percent last year to forty four percent this year.

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Speaker 2: But that's psychological as well. You can convince yourself that

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Speaker 2: things aren't going to be any good, and whether they

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Speaker 2: are or not are two completely different things, right. So

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Speaker 2: the big money spray yesterday was on emergency healthcare. I

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Speaker 2: could bore you witless over our experience in the last

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks about the public hospital system, and I

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Speaker 2: can tell you exactly where the problems are and if I,

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Speaker 2: if I was in charge of it, I would blow

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Speaker 2: the whole damn thing up. Anyway, They think that having

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Speaker 2: some more emergency care is going to help. So we'll

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Speaker 2: crunch the numbers for you in just a couple of

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Speaker 2: moments after the news, which is.

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Speaker 1: Next the only report you need to start your day,

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Speaker 1: the my Casting Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local

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Speaker 1: experts across residential, commercial and rural news.

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Speaker 2: Togs Head be only seven past seven more pre budget

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Speaker 2: noise from the government, this time one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: four million oirever four years, which will buy five new

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Speaker 2: twenty four seven urgent healthcare services have ninety eight percent

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Speaker 2: of us within an hour of urgent care. Rural areas

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Speaker 2: will get round the clock on call support. The chief

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Speaker 2: executive of Rural Healthcare Network, doctor Grant Davidson's with us.

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Speaker 2: Grant Morning morning, Mike. Make you happy.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, we are happy that this is that high priority

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Speaker 18: area for us that's finally getting some attention. So that

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Speaker 18: is good.

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Speaker 2: Do we know what all this money buy?

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Speaker 16: Is?

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Speaker 2: All we ever get is numbers. We've got millions here

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Speaker 2: and millions over there. What's it buying, Is it value

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Speaker 2: for money? Does anyone know?

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Speaker 18: No, there's no detail released, and as we know, the

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Speaker 18: devil is always in the detail. So I've searched the

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Speaker 18: documents that are available, and all we can see is

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Speaker 18: we're going to get seventy improved rural urgent and after

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Speaker 18: ours services and no idea how much of that forty

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Speaker 18: one million a year will go to rural compared to

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Speaker 18: the urgent care clinics and urban areas.

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Speaker 2: Glad you said that, because I looked for the same thing,

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Speaker 2: couldn't find it. So are we desperate for better service

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Speaker 2: in the rural communities of New Zealand?

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Speaker 18: We are absolutely this for the animal mortality rate and

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Speaker 18: rural is two times that of urban and that's one

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Speaker 18: of the key indicators. I guess minimal mortality is those

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Speaker 18: deaths that could be prevented by early intervention. So we've

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Speaker 18: got a major problem.

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Speaker 2: Reality versus theory. So if we all want a tertiary

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Speaker 2: hospital around the corner versus this is a small country

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Speaker 2: and it's difficult geographically. So let's be real. How far

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Speaker 2: short are we?

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Speaker 18: Oh we're a long way sure, but we're reality is

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Speaker 18: never going to get that. But what we do need

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Speaker 18: is if you want, if you need urgent here in

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Speaker 18: a rural area, those rural people expect to drive, you know,

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Speaker 18: some distance, but then they need someone there who has

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Speaker 18: hands on and can help them. And that's what we're

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Speaker 18: hoping to get through improved funding for those clinics.

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Speaker 2: Big issue is the staff. Are you hopeful on that?

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Speaker 2: I mean where do they come from? Overseas? On as humor?

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Speaker 18: Over fifty percent of the rural GPS, for example, internationally trained.

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Speaker 18: That's right, So starfing. There's a strange comment in the

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Speaker 18: press release going out the Health New Zealand star thing

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Speaker 18: has never been better. Well you'd have to ask that

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Speaker 18: then that but in terms of primary care, it's never

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Speaker 18: been worse. So starfing isn't Is she okay?

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Speaker 2: Grunt appreciate it. Grant Davidson, who's the chief executive Rural

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Speaker 2: Health Network, will we probably will touch on this with

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister when you joined us after seven thirty

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Speaker 2: this morning, coming up to ten past seven, asking a

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Speaker 2: new idea for Kiwisaber and the rural community. A member's

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Speaker 2: bill will look to adjust the rules around keyy saver

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Speaker 2: so that you can use it to buy a farm.

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Speaker 2: It would also let the likes of defense force personnel

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Speaker 2: get access to a first time. Now the national MP

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Speaker 2: for Ringer tiquis Sus Redmond or Redmain is behind the

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Speaker 2: bill and is with a Sue's morning to you, good morning, March.

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Speaker 2: Just educate me a defense force personnel different to regular

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Speaker 2: Keywis I mean if you happen to be in the

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Speaker 2: army and you are in KEII saber, can't you just

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Speaker 2: automatically get your money like every on else for first time?

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Speaker 19: No, well, at the moment, the current rules say that

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Speaker 19: you have to live in it for at least six months.

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Speaker 19: So people that are in a service tendancy, so that's

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Speaker 19: like farm workers and defense personnel, some teachers and police officers,

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Speaker 19: they can't satisfy that requirement, so they're excluded from getting

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Speaker 19: onto a home ownership leadder.

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Speaker 2: And why are they excluded from buying a farm if

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Speaker 2: it's a house because a house comes with a farm,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. Or are you looking for a farm without

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Speaker 2: a house, or it might not be you know, it

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Speaker 2: might be down the road or whatever.

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Speaker 19: Well, technically it's actually already allowed, but it's a bit tricky,

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Speaker 19: so my bill just tweaks it a bit, because a

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Speaker 19: farm and a business are usually in a home, all

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Speaker 19: inextricably linked, and this bill just allows you to buy

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Speaker 19: the farm in the name of business as opposed to

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Speaker 19: having to buy it in the name of a person.

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Speaker 2: Do you strike me as relatively minor tweaks that should

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Speaker 2: have been perhaps in there in the first place.

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Speaker 19: Oh, well, that's not for me to determine. I'm just

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Speaker 19: really excited about this bill and getting it allowing people

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Speaker 19: to get back or to get onto the property letter.

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Speaker 19: That's what motivated me to do it. And see, what

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Speaker 19: really motivated me to do it was a young worker

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Speaker 19: on our farm called Terrell, who was really keen to

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Speaker 19: buy himself a house and couldn't understand why he couldn't.

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Speaker 19: And I didn't think that was fair and needed did he.

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Speaker 20: So that's what drove me to do this.

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Speaker 2: In call it Terrell's Bill. There you go now too,

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Speaker 2: I can call it tore exactly. So, So, private members,

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Speaker 2: why isn't government and if it is remaining as private,

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Speaker 2: do you have any sense of the numbers you may

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Speaker 2: or may not have.

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Speaker 19: Well, it's in the ballot at the moment, so I'm

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Speaker 19: at the mercy of that. So every time there's a

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Speaker 19: drawer of the ballot, I cross my fingers and hope

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Speaker 19: it'll get drawn out.

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Speaker 2: But having said that, why isn't part of the government's

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Speaker 2: work program, Because you guys are all in favor of

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Speaker 2: the rural community, aren't you.

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Speaker 19: Absolutely, we're one hundred percent committed to farming. We back

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Speaker 19: our farmers one hundred percent. So yeah, I'll be working

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Speaker 19: behind the scenes to hope that it gets adopted as

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Speaker 19: a member's bill. But in the meantime, I'm just I'm

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Speaker 19: hoping that it gets drawn out of the ballot.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I can't work out what the problem here is

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Speaker 2: with the general idea, may once again asked the Prime Minister,

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Speaker 2: depending on whether we get times sus Redmain, who's the

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Speaker 2: National impeople ranger ticket? Twelve minutes past seven past gig Mike,

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Speaker 2: you should see the riverside and Victoria's Strip in christ

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Speaker 2: which will I have been? There are a number of

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Speaker 2: times in the hospital strip and Rolliston all go. It's

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Speaker 2: exactly what I'm saying. Every single one of us knows

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Speaker 2: a successful business or a series of successful businesses in

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Speaker 2: Hospow And if we stopped and thought long enough and

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Speaker 2: asked ourselves the basic questions, Why is it that they

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Speaker 2: are successful? The answers would be reasonably obvious. Mike Browns

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Speaker 2: and remyu Era bursting at the seams every day, lucky

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Speaker 2: to get a seat. Dead right, by the way, Romania.

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Speaker 2: We've got Portugal and Romania this morning in an election,

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Speaker 2: and the Romanian situation exit polls. These are now with

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Speaker 2: fifty percent turns out. Simeon might have been right, Simeon's

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Speaker 2: Trump's mate hard right, depending on who you're reading. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: the guy who was leading isn't leading by much anymore

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Speaker 2: so with fifty percent of the vote, and now from Romania,

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Speaker 2: Nichol saw Dan is on fifty point nine percent, George

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Speaker 2: Simeon making a surge from behind, sitting on forty nine

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Speaker 2: point Oh wait, who thought Romania could be that exciting?

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Speaker 2: Thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Like asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Talks at BE Prime Minister. Still to come, We've got

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Speaker 2: the sport apter rate, of course. Sixteen past seven new

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Speaker 2: insight into the way we're getting educated. Distance learning is

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Speaker 2: on the up. Correspondent School has seen a thirty two

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Speaker 2: percent rise in enrollment since twenty eighteen. That's against the

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Speaker 2: backdrop of a fall of in person attendance.

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Speaker 14: Of course.

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Speaker 2: CEO of Online Educated Crimson Global Academy, Penelope Bartons with

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Speaker 2: us Penelope morning.

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Speaker 19: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Is this a shift post COVID, whether you work from

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Speaker 2: home or school or whatever. Is the world changed since COVID?

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Speaker 2: Is this it or is there something more to it?

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Speaker 20: That's definitely a factor for it. We've seen, I mean,

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Speaker 20: you saw that peak during COVID, and then afterwards you've

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Speaker 20: seen a pretty steady trend not just a New Zealand

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Speaker 20: but overseas in terms of students looking for an alternative

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Speaker 20: that sort of opens their eyes in terms of what

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Speaker 20: else is possible now looking for other options. But then

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Speaker 20: you've also got just broadly mental health, chronic disengagement in schools.

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Speaker 20: You talked about the attendance rates, there's a lot of

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Speaker 20: other factors that are just causing families and how to

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Speaker 20: look for other options.

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Speaker 2: Can you get as good an education online as you

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Speaker 2: can by going to school.

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Speaker 20: Absolutely, we've had students and there's actually probably a piece here. Yes,

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Speaker 20: you can, depending on the program. There should always be

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Speaker 20: a caveat on that. But we have access to on

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Speaker 20: the Crimson Cardal Academy side some of the top teachers.

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Speaker 20: You have access to international curriculum.

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Speaker 19: And what's unique that.

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Speaker 20: You can do in online because you have a bit

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Speaker 20: more flexibility, is you can really personalize the education for

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Speaker 20: the students. It's very very hard to do that in

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Speaker 20: a traditional classroom, and so being able to personalize that learning,

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Speaker 20: access to different pathways, more flexibility. You know, we're just

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Speaker 20: seeing students absolutely come in and come in and thrive.

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Speaker 2: But that's what you guys do, and that's that international

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Speaker 2: side of the equation. If I'm just looking to simply

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Speaker 2: pull my kid out of a primary school in suburban

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Speaker 2: New Zealand and do it at my house in suburban

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, and it's not international, it's just part of

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand curriculum. Can I do that and do that?

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Speaker 14: Well?

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Speaker 20: Yes, there are a few different models available in New Zealand.

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Speaker 20: You've got Takura, you've got Mount Hobson, and you've got

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Speaker 20: us on the international site. Mount Hobson runs a similar

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Speaker 20: model to ourselves in terms of the small classroom. It's

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Speaker 20: really differentiated learning pathways. One element you've got to consider

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Speaker 20: and if you're thinking about particularly in that primary age

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Speaker 20: is thinking about what that social emotional connection piece looks

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Speaker 20: like that learning through play, how are you going to

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Speaker 20: be building that because you can do online at that age,

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Speaker 20: but you'll need to be thinking about exactly as a parent,

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Speaker 20: how much am I going to be involved in that

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Speaker 20: learning to make sure that it's not just sitting there

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Speaker 20: and letting things go by. You need to take a

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Speaker 20: really active role in it at any age. It's an option,

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Speaker 20: but you'd need to be prepared to be very act

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Speaker 20: and hands on and make sure you've got the holistic development.

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Speaker 2: What drives it? To start trouble at school, so I'll

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Speaker 2: get my kid at home or I can do better

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Speaker 2: at home. Therefore, that's what drives it.

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Speaker 20: I've seen sort of roughly four groups of students. There's

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Speaker 20: definitely I'm not accelerating fast enough. I'm in this class

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Speaker 20: because I'm this age, and then that just you know,

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Speaker 20: that's actually not challenging them. They get quite bored. We're

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Speaker 20: seeing a lot of students who might have social anxiety,

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Speaker 20: things like actually just getting up and out of the

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Speaker 20: house and thinking about lunch breaks. That's quite an issue

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Speaker 20: for them. And then we're seeing other students who are

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Speaker 20: just going. I've got other passions. I want to be

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Speaker 20: a professional athlete. I want to ride horses during the day.

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Speaker 20: I want to go and train, and actually doing school

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Speaker 20: nine till three every day is sort of an outdated

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Speaker 20: way to look at that model for those students. They

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Speaker 20: want to do their classes a little bit in the morning,

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Speaker 20: a little bit at night, and then have that daytime

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Speaker 20: for you.

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Speaker 2: Penelvie Good Insight appreciate it very much. A partner's with

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Speaker 2: Crimson Global Academy thirty two percent rise, not the Global Academy,

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Speaker 2: but thirty two percent rights in general. Since twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot, isn't it? But a housing news for you.

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Speaker 2: I read something really interesting that could be coming to

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Speaker 2: possibly the budget in government policy. More shortly seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: is for sale for seventeen million dollars. It was for

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Speaker 2: It turns out real estate investment was right up there

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Speaker 2: for those people, and for the super wealthy, the ability

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Speaker 2: to have a super yacht parked featured doe very highly

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Speaker 2: for them as well. So the point being, in a

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Speaker 2: place like Auckland, your seventeen million dollar penthouse can be

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Speaker 2: a few hundred meters away, of course, from your super yacht.

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Speaker 2: Yet in this country foreigners cannot do that because they

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Speaker 2: are not allowed to buy a house. What they are

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Speaker 2: allowed to do is get a golden visa, and the

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Speaker 2: new rules have proved very popular. There's good inquiry are

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Speaker 2: for five or ten million dollars, you invest in a business,

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Speaker 2: you employ people, you grow that business, you help us

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Speaker 2: out as an economy, and you still despite all of

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Speaker 2: that can't buy a house. The fact that the apartment

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Speaker 2: has been on the market now for years clearly shows

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Speaker 2: no locals want it or indeed can afford it. So

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Speaker 2: the fear as profit by some that foreigners take houses

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Speaker 2: off New Zealanders at this level clearly is not true.

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Speaker 2: The government or parts of it want to fix this anomaly,

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Speaker 2: and yet they can't or don't because New Zealand First refuses.

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Speaker 2: Rumors while back suggested a compromise had been reached. National

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Speaker 2: had an election policy of a couple of million dollars

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Speaker 2: as a protection on the lower priced houses. The rumor

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Speaker 2: was that negotiated a figure with New Zealand First for

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Speaker 2: about five or six million. It never came to fruition.

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Speaker 2: So in budget week, when yet again the dire state

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Speaker 2: of our finances is laid bare and a commentary around

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Speaker 2: growth will be pushed hard, one of the answers i e.

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Speaker 2: The wealthy with money to invest has not been fully

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Speaker 2: enacted because one part of the government is xenophobic. This

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Speaker 2: battle to regain our economic mojo is hard enough as

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Speaker 2: it is without ankle tapping ourselves by refusing to enact

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Speaker 2: blatantly obvious ideas. If we can't pull every lever possible.

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Speaker 2: We have no one to blame but ourselves, ask eted

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Speaker 2: Blazer with the Prime minister shortly Portugal. The race. This

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Speaker 2: is a This is a general election as opposed to

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Speaker 2: the presidential races have been telling about so far. This

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Speaker 2: morning it was suggested third election by the way in

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Speaker 2: three years because the rare basket case. But it was

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Speaker 2: suggested going in that the ruling center right Democratic Alliance

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Speaker 2: would win, but they would fall short of a majority,

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Speaker 2: and the first exit polls out a couple of moments

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Speaker 2: ago suggests that that's what's going to happen. They're getting

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Speaker 2: somewhere between twenty nine and thirty five percent. The far

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Speaker 2: right Jagger Party's got about twenty percent. Montenegro runs the

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Speaker 2: place he ran a vote of confidence. Lost the vote

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Speaker 2: of confidence because a few people ask some questions about

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Speaker 2: his business dealings. It turned out to be a little

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Speaker 2: bit dodgy. Went to the parliament said back meet. They didn't,

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Speaker 2: so he's gone to a third election. To win an

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Speaker 2: outright majority, they need about forty two percent of the vote.

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Speaker 2: They're not obviously going to get it, so they're going

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Speaker 2: to be back in minority and being back in minority

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Speaker 2: seems to suggest that it'll probably fall apart again. But

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Speaker 2: we shall see Prime Minister in the next half hour

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Speaker 2: of the program. Of course, the commentary box, we haven't

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Speaker 2: dealt with the f one. This morning every red ball

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Speaker 2: driver scored points Max one Sonoda came from the back

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Speaker 2: of the field, did well, had just scored points, so

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Speaker 2: that leaves one left and then that might be the issue. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: more on that still to come after the News, which

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Speaker 2: is next your reviews talk see.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's Voice of Reason is Mike the mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Vita, Retirement, Communities, Life your Way, News, Dogs

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Speaker 1: Dead be.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes away from mate Andrew and Jason after

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Speaker 2: the sport. It cost me time on the Monday morning,

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Speaker 2: the time in the Citizen to studio. Did you see

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Speaker 2: you can see your team. I now you won't remember

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Speaker 2: this and I'm not here to embarrass you, but Bill's

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Speaker 2: written to me and Villa and his wife were celebrating

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Speaker 2: their sixtieth wedding anniversary and they said they couldn't believe

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Speaker 2: all the cards they got. They got one from the

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Speaker 2: local MP, personally signed, they got one from you. Do

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Speaker 2: you remember writing bill's cart I have a system in

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Speaker 2: place for sixtieth wedding, And how many sixtieth winning anniversary

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Speaker 2: cards would you write? I don't know many snowed under?

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Speaker 22: Or no?

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Speaker 12: No, I mean there's not that many people that make

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Speaker 12: sixty honest, That's what I'm asking. So you do there

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Speaker 12: is a system in place for system in place, and

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Speaker 12: the King wrote to them, Yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 2: Is it nice? Is that lovely?

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Speaker 12: If you're going to do sixty years of marriage? I

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Speaker 12: think that's something we're celebrating.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. New Zealand First are seeking changes to

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Speaker 2: the Regulatory Standards Bill because New Zealand First has got

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Speaker 2: problems true or not?

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Speaker 12: Well, I mean they've got some issues, but that will

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Speaker 12: be flushed out through a sleept committee process. I mean,

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Speaker 12: if you take a step back, this bill is about

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Speaker 12: making sure we do decent good law making and more

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Speaker 12: transparency about bad lawmaking in particular. It's pretty complex legislation,

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Speaker 12: but like the fast Track Bill, and it will benefit

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Speaker 12: frankly from going through.

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Speaker 2: But just so it's complex. I heard David Seymore do

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Speaker 2: an interview once on it, and I was bamboozled by

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Speaker 2: what he's trying to achieve, but outside of the broad

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Speaker 2: it will be more efficient, is it. Do you understand?

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Speaker 12: Well, that's the point is we want to make sure

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Speaker 12: it doesn't drive increased bureaucracy. It's actually got to be

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Speaker 12: a much simpler way to say. Look, if you're making

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Speaker 12: new laws as a minister, you've got to make sure

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Speaker 12: that it actually does work that you're not and as

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Speaker 12: a result, the system that checks that, we want that

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Speaker 12: to be pretty tiptop shaped. So so David's got you know,

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Speaker 12: the idea is more transparency in the regulations.

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Speaker 2: But is there an ideological scrap between Winston and David on.

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Speaker 12: This No, it's just making sure it's the devil's and

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Speaker 12: the detail on this one. And it's no different from

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Speaker 12: fast Track. If you remember how we started that one

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Speaker 12: off and then we ended up creating panels and a

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Speaker 12: bunch of different things, that's similar to this one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Nick Stewart, who is a financial advisor, I am

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Speaker 2: reading over the weekend the case for full expensing of

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Speaker 2: capital expenditure. Having read the article, it does make sense.

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Speaker 2: Is there any possibility, either in the budget or generally

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Speaker 2: that we can full expense capital expenditure and therefore drive

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Speaker 2: the economy.

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Speaker 12: We'll talk more about that obviously in the budget in

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Speaker 12: a few days. There's something in the budget you never know.

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Speaker 12: We'll talk about the budget in a few days yet.

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Speaker 12: But what I just say is that idea is not

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Speaker 12: an unattractive idea because if essentially, Mike, if you look

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Speaker 12: at the small medium enterprises in New Zealand, the top

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Speaker 12: ten percent of seven times more productive than the bottom

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Speaker 12: ten percent, and a lot of it's to do with

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Speaker 12: their adoption of capital and plant and equipment and automation

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Speaker 12: and all that good stuff. So I've got a lot

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Speaker 12: of sympathy for that, but weft way to the budget.

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Speaker 2: So much sympathy we might be able to hear something

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Speaker 2: on Thursday that's exciting to know you. You're so good

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Speaker 2: at this trying to get a scoop on that. I'm John,

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Speaker 2: just please you positive about it. Stephen Joyce's piece in

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Speaker 2: the Hero all over the weekend. Did you happen to

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Speaker 2: read that? Okay? So does he have an argument. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure he has an but he's talking about the

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Speaker 2: productivity of Fontierra's production side at a time when butter

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Speaker 2: and ETCeteras through the roof. Do we know of Fontra

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Speaker 2: are any good at what they do?

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Speaker 22: Or is it?

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Speaker 12: I think they're pretty good. I mean, how do you

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Speaker 12: know that well? I mean when I look at their

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Speaker 12: relative global performance, they've done a very good job, particularly

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Speaker 12: in the last six years or so. Five years or so,

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Speaker 12: I think there was a period in time, frankly where

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Speaker 12: I think they lost it and lost a lot of

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Speaker 12: ground against their global competitors. But I just say to

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Speaker 12: you when you're offshore, I'm really you know. I think

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Speaker 12: Fontier has got the right strategy. They're going for high

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Speaker 12: margin products. Yeah, I was in Korea. They make an

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Speaker 12: ambient whipping cream sold to Korean bakers. Now everyone listening

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Speaker 12: to that, guys, whipp you do well? Actually bakers and

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Speaker 12: cakes in career a freaking big market, and actually do

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Speaker 12: it that way. They get higher margin that comes back

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Speaker 12: to their farmers than doing consumer goods business, for example.

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Speaker 12: So I think Fonteria has had a really good strategy

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Speaker 12: to enhance margin so they can get returns.

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Speaker 2: Back to the mororification of New Zealand. So the tea

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Speaker 2: Kunger leads story, this was m fat. This was Winston

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Speaker 2: Peter's getting upset about a teacung a lead type job.

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Speaker 2: Let me quote you this his comments. Peter's comments and

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Speaker 2: subsequent requests to m FAT for a response by political

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Speaker 2: reporters set off a flurry of emails and messages between

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Speaker 2: the most senior staff at the agency. I would have

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Speaker 2: thought they had better things to do with the time.

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Speaker 2: Be that as it may, who appeared to be unaware

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Speaker 2: the job fell foul of Peter's expectations. How does senior

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Speaker 2: bureaucrats not understand that they're working for a government that

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Speaker 2: have spoken very clearly on the maorification of this country.

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Speaker 12: Well, where we see it, we call it out, but

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Speaker 12: I mean they sleep well, I mean Oncesta's obviously called

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Speaker 12: it out very strongly, which is important. You've seen it. Also.

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Speaker 12: We had a situation with Treo stop ghost signs for example,

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Speaker 12: recently as well, and you know where we see it,

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Speaker 12: we actually we say, look, that's not appropriate. You know,

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Speaker 12: we don't want we need the stop go signs to

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Speaker 12: be very unambiguous and very clearly producing the same thing here.

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Speaker 12: We want everybody in the public service focused on delivery,

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Speaker 12: focused on results, and not lots of resources tied up

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Speaker 12: in things that.

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Speaker 2: Isn't How this is happening? How come it's still happening.

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Speaker 2: How come somebody somewhere goes, I tell you what, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to make a Maory road sign. Yeah, well, I

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Speaker 2: mean they're taking the person, aren't they.

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Speaker 12: Well, there's a I mean we're a new government. We've

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Speaker 12: been very clearly not but a year and a year

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Speaker 12: and a half.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 12: But we want to run things differently from the previous minstration.

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Speaker 12: That's taking some people sometime to understand that. Where where

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Speaker 12: it comes out, and they get it wrong, we're very

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Speaker 12: quick to clamp it down on it and to say

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Speaker 12: that's got to change. Get back to what the program is,

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Speaker 12: which is delivery.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the budget without giving it away.

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Speaker 2: I get all of that. The money you announced Nicola

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Speaker 2: Willis on Friday has hundreds of millions of dollars for

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Speaker 2: the film industry. Fantastic. You've got money yesterday for Regina.

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Speaker 2: Where's it all coming from? Well that'll be revealed on

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Speaker 2: the budget, I know, But give us a just say

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Speaker 2: we don't have any money. We have said very clearly

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Speaker 2: that we think we can invest in economic growth, we

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Speaker 2: think we can invest in health and education. But what

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Speaker 2: you watch waight you see the fiscal plan and it

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Speaker 2: will be all revealed at that point. It's either borrowed

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Speaker 2: or you've got it from somewhere, which is it.

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Speaker 12: Well, again, i'm not going to get it. Why can't

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Speaker 12: you give us that part? Not because we've got to,

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Speaker 12: but it's budget sensitive. We'll wait for what's what's bunget

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Speaker 12: sensitive about something as broad as we've got the cash

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Speaker 12: or we're borrowing. Well, as I said to you, it's

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Speaker 12: within our fiscal track and what we've set ourselves up

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Speaker 12: and the rules that we're trying to.

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Speaker 2: Do work towards.

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Speaker 12: It'll be revealed on Thursday. We need to be able

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Speaker 12: to do it in one comprehensive thing so you can

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Speaker 12: see the total fiscal picture of what we're dealing with

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Speaker 12: and how we're funding it.

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Speaker 2: But it seems an extraordinary amount of money.

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Speaker 12: Well, where we are, we're making some serious investments and

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Speaker 12: some key places. Now you're making investments, but I want

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Speaker 12: to know where you're getting the dough from and that

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Speaker 12: will be revealed on because if you're borrowing it, I'm

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Speaker 12: not going to be happy next week. Well, that's fine,

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Speaker 12: we'll have that conversation next week. Well, so you are borrowing,

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Speaker 12: and I say we're borrowing. But I'm just I'm not

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Speaker 12: going to give you anything on this. I know it's

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Speaker 12: going to be a very frustrating interview for your listeners.

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Speaker 12: All Right, he's so good, can I say to all

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Speaker 12: the people listening here? And he tries to weasel it

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Speaker 12: out of me. But now we've got to wait to

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Speaker 12: Thursday because I got to show you the whole financial

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Speaker 12: set in the front.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So reassure me once again that it will make

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Speaker 2: sense in a way that perhaps a conservative like me

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Speaker 2: that doesn't like debt yep, can understand.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 12: So we have a problem with debt, as you well know,

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Speaker 12: we've had a threefold increase in debt from sixty to

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Speaker 12: one hundred and eighty billion dollars. The cost on the

1149
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Speaker 12: budget now on the interest build on that a loan's

1150
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Speaker 12: gone from three to nine billion dollars in rising it's

1151
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Speaker 12: about sixty thousand dollars for every household his own, twenty

1152
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Speaker 12: two thousand extra it's been added onto every KIWI. And

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Speaker 12: we've got nothing to show for it, because basically they

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Speaker 12: debt's good if you're borrowing for productivity enhancing stuff. And

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Speaker 12: we'll only to point to a point but there's good

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Speaker 12: stuff there. In this case, we didn't do that. The

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Speaker 12: last administration ran it up on the credit card and

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Speaker 12: for daily living expenses. That's why we've got nothing to

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Speaker 12: show with better schools, hospitals or roads. We've got to

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Speaker 12: change that course. We've got to find a pathway to

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Speaker 12: get us off to a surplus, because that's importance that

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Speaker 12: we've got future capacity should something be for New Zealand,

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Speaker 12: that we can deal with that issue. And we've got

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Speaker 12: to get in shape. And that's why things like the

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Speaker 12: Greens idea of more taxes, more borroing. You're hearing it

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Speaker 12: from Thomas's piece over the weekend on I did yeah. Nurses, yeah,

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Speaker 12: a pay cut, yes, under a greenness Greens budget. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: and it's you know, and we've done a lot of

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Speaker 12: work to actually lift nurse pay. I mean it's one

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Speaker 12: hundred and twenty six thousand dollars including allowances, equal to

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Speaker 12: pretty much what they get in New South Wales, which

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Speaker 12: is a lot wealthier. But I mean that was just

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Speaker 12: an absolute craziness and madness. But actually labors no better.

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Speaker 12: They want to borrow more, tax more, spend more. You know,

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Speaker 12: that's exactly where it is. We have to find a

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Speaker 12: balance responsibly to get the books back in order over

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Speaker 12: onto a pathway, but also make investments and also continue

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Speaker 12: to reprioritize and make savings too.

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Speaker 2: Okay, A couple of quick things out of last week

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Speaker 2: is Jerry brownly letting the House down with that Privilegious

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Speaker 2: Committee response that he gave to the House last week.

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Speaker 2: Everyone gets to speak, everyone gets to have an amendment,

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Speaker 2: everyone gets to speak to the amendment. I mean, what's

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Speaker 2: that it's not stall Well.

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Speaker 12: That is that that is actually protocol and that those

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Speaker 12: are as I understand its standing orders and rules in

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Speaker 12: the House. The bigger issue is that we discuss sensitive

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Speaker 12: and difficult and emotional topics and that in that place

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Speaker 12: the multi party are not getting penalized for Wayata and

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Speaker 12: for Harker that happens a lot. They're getting penalized for

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Speaker 12: breaking the rules, getting out of your seat, gestures, you know,

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Speaker 12: disrupting a vote, all of that kind of stuff, and

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Speaker 12: then not engaging with the Privileges Committee. We need to

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Speaker 12: we need MP's are sent there by the people in

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Speaker 12: New Zealand. They need to respect the rules of the

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Speaker 12: place because otherwise it just evolves into absolute chaos and

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Speaker 12: well last week and you low, well it wasn't great.

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Speaker 12: I mean because I don't like it, because actually, you know,

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Speaker 12: you got MPs talking about themselves and parliamentarians talking about themselves,

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Speaker 12: and actually I try and stay above that fray because

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Speaker 12: I want to focus on what New Zealand doesn't need

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Speaker 12: us to do and at the moment they want us

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Speaker 12: dealing with growing this economy and getting dealing with cost

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Speaker 12: of living.

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Speaker 2: Explain the logic of this to me. So there's an

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Speaker 2: article in the paper over the weekend of one roof

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Speaker 2: there's a penthouse for sailed downtown to Aukland for seventeen

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Speaker 2: million dollars. It's been on the mark a few years now.

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Speaker 2: No one here wants it. Clearly, why can't somebody buying it?

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Speaker 2: Why can't somebody from offshore by it?

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Speaker 12: Well, I mean you know our position on that.

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Speaker 16: I do not.

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Speaker 12: The National Party has a strong view that you should

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Speaker 12: be able to buy.

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Speaker 2: Have you made any progress with Peters at all on this?

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Speaker 2: And if you haven't, why don't you call them out?

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Speaker 12: Well, again, we still have a we still have a

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Speaker 12: conversation going with it. I know that's not the answer

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Speaker 12: you want to hear because you've give me a grief

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Speaker 12: on the seats every time. But but if you're looking

1221
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Speaker 12: to pull every leader you can to get this economy going, yep,

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Speaker 12: surely that is a lever you can puss one of

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Speaker 12: the levers.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to New Zealand, have a golden visa. And by

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Speaker 2: the way, there's a penthouse there for yours for seven

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Speaker 2: to or for nine million pounds, snap it up.

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Speaker 12: I think you know we probably got the cap too

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Speaker 12: low last time when we went to the election campaign

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Speaker 12: we said were two million dollars. I think you could

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Speaker 12: lift that, you know, quite reasonably to five or six.

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Speaker 2: You have you in your negotiations? Sorry, have you and

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Speaker 2: your negotiations five? And would you be looking to make

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Speaker 2: an announcement on this sometimes I'm not sure we will.

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Speaker 12: We've got it, we've got a better work to do it.

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Speaker 12: So you're losing still Peter's is beating you up on that. No, no, well,

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Speaker 12: I mean, let's be clear, we've got two issues. One

1237
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Speaker 12: is extending the superannuation age sixty seven, which I think

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Speaker 12: also makes great sense, and that given the key he's

1239
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Speaker 12: living longer. But that's not palatable to labor and all

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Speaker 12: New Zeland first, and we've had an issue with respect

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Speaker 12: to you know, foreign by about I just think if

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Speaker 12: you're a chief technology officer from San Francisco and you

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Speaker 12: want to spend some of your months here in His

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Speaker 12: Zealand because you've got an investment in a tech company

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Speaker 12: here that's helping you Islanders grow, then you should be

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Speaker 12: able to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you should. Why can't Peter's understand that he's in

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Speaker 2: a phope because that's the problem.

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Speaker 12: Well, I don't know. I mean, he's got a long

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Speaker 12: standing position. He just has been against it. We are

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Speaker 12: in conversation with him and his office as we've been

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Speaker 12: doing our proposals to lift the threshold a lot more.

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Speaker 12: We think that would be important ultimately someone we got

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Speaker 12: to work through. Okay, Well, so you don't always get

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Speaker 12: what you want in a colition government, right, Well you

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Speaker 12: would if I was running it.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see that have a good budget, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Twelve minutes away from eight.

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Speaker 2: Talks at be Mike, looking forward to you talk with

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister next Monday to explain why they've borrowed

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Speaker 2: all this money for the budget spent. They better not

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Speaker 2: have borrowed a tremendous amount of money.

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Speaker 21: It sounds like they're going to be.

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Speaker 2: It's don't rack me up, Lynn, because if they're just

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Speaker 2: going to be another labor government that they'll argue one

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Speaker 2: of a couple of things. One they found savings. I

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Speaker 2: hope to god they've found savings. If they are borrowing money,

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Speaker 2: they're going to do the well, we're going to borrow

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Speaker 2: money because this is for investment, this is for growth

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Speaker 2: in theory. I'm not against that, never have been. But

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Speaker 2: given what they owe currently and the bill on the

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Speaker 2: interest alone is nine billion dollars and climbing and it

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Speaker 2: will be ten before you know it, before it's eleven,

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Speaker 2: just the interest on the bill. Then I've got issues

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Speaker 2: with that, Mike, where I knew someone would Texas. Where

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Speaker 2: the hell does mister Luxeon get that figure for a

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Speaker 2: nurse's salary. My wife is a senior nurse and I

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Speaker 2: can guarantee you it isn't anything close to that. You're wrong,

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Speaker 2: and I'll explain more in the moment.

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Speaker 2: Right as regards nurses. Go to Thomas Cogler's piece over

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Speaker 2: the weekend, the Primates have been talking about nurses in

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Speaker 2: this country paying on average about the earning about the

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Speaker 2: same as a person in New South Wales. So this

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Speaker 2: whole debate, I'm going to Australia who earn more money.

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Speaker 2: It's no longer the case according to Thomas's Peace and

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Speaker 2: thin these are from the Stats Department. You can't argue

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Speaker 2: with them. There are in excess of ten thousand nurses

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Speaker 2: in this country who earn about one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: five thousand dollars a year, and that does not include

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Speaker 2: over time and shift allowances and all the extras. So

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Speaker 2: ten thousand nurses in this country earn in excess of

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. Plus on top

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Speaker 2: of that you can do your overtime and your shift allowances,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. So that's good money. The point of Thomas's Peace,

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Speaker 2: which was very good, is that under the Green's budget,

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Speaker 2: with their gargantuane amount of taxation, even nurses get a

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Speaker 2: pay cut. So that may well surprise you. So when

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Speaker 2: Peace go, well, where does he get the figure from

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Speaker 2: he gets the figure from the stats department, and the

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Speaker 2: stats department don't lie.

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Speaker 1: Sport.

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Speaker 3: What have we got.

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Speaker 2: We've got Auckland afs Auckland FC. So they got one.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming the one is worth two because it's an

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Speaker 2: away goal. I'm assuming those rules apply here as they

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Speaker 2: do in Europe. So that's the good news. And we've

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Speaker 2: got to deal with the rugby more one and Pacific

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Speaker 2: dealing turning out to be something quite special. Liam. We

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Speaker 2: need to focus on this morning, so there's plenty of

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Speaker 2: sport around to talk about. Jason and sev in the commentary.

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Speaker 12: Box after the news which is next year at News

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Speaker 12: Talk Sedbo.

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Speaker 1: Mike hoskame insightful, engaging and vitally the Mic Hosking breakfast

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Speaker 1: with the range Rover, the LA designed to intrigue and

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Speaker 1: use talks.

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Speaker 22: D B sprung its run run, come in.

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Speaker 4: The Highlanders absolutely devastated and out on their feet.

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Speaker 1: The hurricane.

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Speaker 3: They've got home here at sky Stadium, the Crusaders forty

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Speaker 3: eight thirty three. I've done the job in Sydney.

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Speaker 17: What a pacifica speak the Blues for the third time

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Speaker 17: in their history.

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Speaker 11: What a game at.

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Speaker 2: Full time They've taken down the Dolphins at.

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Speaker 12: Suncorp Stadium sixteen points to twelve.

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Speaker 23: In all of this, they create another first Our Finals

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Speaker 23: win at the first time of asking, and they keep

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Speaker 23: Melbourne victory scoreless for a third straight game.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mike Husking breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: It as I passed out Jason Pine and Andrew Sevil,

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Speaker 2: both with US fellows, Good morning to you, him I

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Speaker 2: Indy or if one for the weekend.

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Speaker 17: Andrew probably if one because it's only well, when I

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Speaker 17: say only, it's only practice and qualifying for Ruindy, isn't

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Speaker 17: it too mess of crashes? For Kiwi's Marcus Armstrom was

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Speaker 17: a yesterday. Scott mcglotson just this morning. Thankfully, both are

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Speaker 17: okay close to four hundred three fifty four hundred ks

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Speaker 17: an hour.

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Speaker 2: I was doing average. I was watching yesterday. They're practicing

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Speaker 2: their four laps, So to qualify, you do a four

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01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 2: lap average and the average, a good average is three

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five kilometers and our average, they're crazy,

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Speaker 2: You're so close to literally just sliding out or flying

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Speaker 2: off the or whatever the case. I was just saying

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Speaker 2: to somebody off there, I'm pretty sure you can't have

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Speaker 2: a crash in Indy without basically destroying your car.

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Speaker 17: Pretty well that speed, yes, and yes, they're only well

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01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 17: they're turning left right, left, left, left, lip left, but

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Speaker 17: at that speed, any any any infantiesimal ad judgment of

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Speaker 17: the steering wheel or the wheels, you're gone right and

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Speaker 17: then in the race you've got cars all around you. Obviously, Yeah,

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Speaker 17: it's quite amazing what they do. Remember talking to Scott

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Speaker 17: Dixon years ago, I think the Texas Motor Speedway, maybe

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Speaker 17: the fastest track or one of those ovals, and he said,

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Speaker 17: you're at a point almost where time stands still or

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Speaker 17: you black out.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. Eh, Yeah, the g's on you. And and

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Speaker 2: funny enough, I took Scott mcglockin about very same thing.

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Speaker 2: The point you're looking forward to is so ridiculously far

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Speaker 2: ahead that it just it comes up. That's how far

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Speaker 2: you have to otherwise your head would explode by the

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Speaker 2: time you're just looking for corners and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: It's that unbelievable. So in many respects it's more dangerous

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Speaker 2: and more skilled than if one if you think about it,

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Speaker 2: because you're certainly going faster plus the field, plus the banking,

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Speaker 2: plus the oval, plus you know all the other stuff

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Speaker 2: that goes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yep, it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Do you see this morning z F one, Jason.

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Speaker 21: I had a wee look at it, Mike.

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Speaker 24: I was quite interested to see how Liam Lawson was going,

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Speaker 24: and I must admit it wasn't a surprise when I

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Speaker 24: found he was fourteenth.

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Speaker 21: As I think we said last week, I think this is.

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Speaker 24: What we have to expect from Liam in this racing

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Speaker 24: bulls car is going to be in the teens most

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Speaker 24: of the time.

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Speaker 21: Of course, we'd love to see him get a point

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Speaker 21: at some stage.

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Speaker 24: The stepping again a genius McLaren of the fastest cars

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Speaker 24: second and third, but Max the step and just a

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Speaker 24: generational driver.

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Speaker 21: Top of the podium again. So you're looking forward to

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Speaker 21: Indie next Monday.

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Speaker 24: Always enjoyable and yeah it's gotta McGlocklin won't get the

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Speaker 24: chance to feature in the top twelve qualified session that's

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Speaker 24: on at the moment, isn't it. But yeah, race properit

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Speaker 24: next Monday. It's hope he's in better neck. But you're

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Speaker 24: right that the margins are so small for error, so

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Speaker 24: you wouldn't want to you wouldn't. I mean, if you're

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Speaker 24: blacking out at three hundred and seventy five K, I'm

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Speaker 24: not sure that's a great look.

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Speaker 3: No, it is. At least Lawson's keeping his car on

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Speaker 3: the track.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, he is.

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Speaker 2: But my problem is there are three Red Bull drivers's

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Speaker 2: scored points this morning and he isn't one of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so seventy five percent of the team scores a point

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Speaker 2: he didn't, and he didn't. I mean you can argue

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Speaker 2: he got bad luck with the red light, you know,

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Speaker 2: with red flag and all that sort of stuff, But

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Speaker 2: you put a banker in early so that you don't

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Speaker 2: just in case you do get caught, and had you

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Speaker 2: did that? So how come had you?

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Speaker 17: It just seems to be something new that's going wrong,

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Speaker 17: whether it's the mechanics of the car, whether it's something

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Speaker 17: else that's happened on the truck, whether it's just a

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Speaker 17: track rather, whether it's just bad luck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason, we're done, an't we AUK see? So the

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Speaker 2: win next weekend? It is, I'm right hand. It's two goals,

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Speaker 2: so in away goal is worth twice as that is

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Speaker 2: that the rule's.

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Speaker 1: Not what.

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Speaker 11: Stupid rule?

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Speaker 21: I know, the away goals. I think it was too

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Speaker 21: confusing for people, Mike.

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Speaker 2: So they confusing about.

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Speaker 3: What about Champions League and that, Jason, but they still

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Speaker 3: have more.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 24: So yes, it varies from competition to competition, but down

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Speaker 24: here we need to forget all about it. So for example,

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Speaker 24: if Melbourne Victory were to win one nil on Saturday night,

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Speaker 24: that would be a drawer. If they would have win

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Speaker 24: two nil, they would go through. Look, I think Auckland

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Speaker 24: FC will win at go Media Stadium on Saturday night.

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Speaker 24: I think they were very, very very good in Melbourne.

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Speaker 24: That's three games in a row. They haven't let Melbourne,

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Speaker 24: one of the best attacking sides in the com score

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Speaker 24: a goal thirty thousand at the stadium.

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Speaker 21: This coming Saturday, they'll win that game. They'll host the

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Speaker 21: Grand Final. This journey just continues.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, two quick questions. If it's one all, what happens?

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Speaker 24: Then extra time? Fifteen minutes of extra time each way?

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01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 24: Then a shootout, still level of penalty shootout.

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Speaker 2: All love a shootout.

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Speaker 17: I'd love a shootout, Joseph, you have seen I think

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Speaker 17: it was Moreno near the end he hit one post

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Speaker 17: on the other post out Have you ever seen that

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Speaker 17: happen before?

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Speaker 21: No, I haven't defied the laws of physics.

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Speaker 24: It was almost it was a triangle, wasn't it one post,

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Speaker 24: other post and then back to the keeper. Yeah, how

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01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 24: it didn't go and I don't know had it gone?

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Speaker 24: And then I think we can we can start planning

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01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 24: for the Grand Final. Two nils, a big lead, one

1453
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 24: nill you know, Melbourne Victory, get a bit of wind

1454
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 24: in their sales, get an early goal and all of

1455
01:05:59,000 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 24: a sudden it's all on.

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Speaker 17: But I'm sure you've seen that sort of thing before, mate.

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01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 17: Was it Canterbury under twelves at English Park?

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01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 3: Two left feet? My ability to hit them?

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01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to skype, but I hit all

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Speaker 2: three so left right and at the top the who

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Speaker 2: are we playing? Jason? I mean who are we likely

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Speaker 2: to play in the final?

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01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 24: In the in the final and the other side call

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01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 24: Melbourne City in their first leg of their semi won

1465
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Speaker 24: three nil, so that's got a big.

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Speaker 21: Melbourne City are the likely opponents.

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Speaker 2: Okay, brief break more in a moment Andrewsvil Jason Pine

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Speaker 2: thirteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio cow It

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Speaker 1: by News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Zippy News Talk Zippy sixteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: Jeez, the Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mic Hosking

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01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: Breakfast with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions

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01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: for over fifty years.

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01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 2: The Tevil Jason Pine with us said the thought.

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Speaker 3: I thought fat cheek could cut me off. Are you

1477
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 3: pushing the buttons yourself?

1478
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 4: These days.

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Speaker 2: To be different? If I was pushing them the Warriors,

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Speaker 2: I mean, what do you say? I mean, You've got

1481
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Speaker 2: to be serious about this though, don't you say? I mean,

1482
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 2: you know, for all the fun you might make it,

1483
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: this is a proper side, isn't it. It's like you

1484
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 2: can't argue with the results we are right.

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Speaker 17: There, yeah, sort the tail end of that game and

1486
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 17: the way they held out the Dolphins. There's a lot

1487
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 17: of spirit in this team. I heard the comment the

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01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 17: other day when James Fisher Harris is your captain and

1489
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 17: he's playing, there's nowhere in the world you'd want to lose, right.

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Speaker 2: No, I knew Fisher Harris shouldn't have been sent off.

1491
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 2: And I'm getting a lot of grief even from people

1492
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 2: I would have some of the tougher guys around ZB

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01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 2: and I know that's a weird thing to say tough

1494
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 2: and z B, but but there's you know, and I'm

1495
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 2: going Fisher hair shouldn't have been sent off and they're going,

1496
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 2: oh you.

1497
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 3: Think the shoulder Clemp've clemp right down on.

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01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, But you know, I ran into them the defense.

1499
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 17: I know a hardkom about this every week, but defense

1500
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 17: is about systems and about attitude, and they're defending very

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01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 17: well and also the winning games.

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01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 3: In the past they would have lost corecked those tight games.

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01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 2: So that Dolphins comeback that was very Warriors of Old,

1504
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 2: wasn't it, And they sort of ran out of time

1505
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 2: and kind of we're always going to fall short and

1506
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 2: we're just in a different league, Jason. These days we're

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Speaker 2: like we are the real deal.

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01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 24: Yep, winning the tight ones, which last year we weren't doing.

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Speaker 24: I do worry a bit about the Raiders on Sunday

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01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,719
Speaker 24: for a couple of reasons. The co captains are the reasons.

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01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 24: James Fisher Harris, whether or not he deserves the yeah,

1512
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 24: and Mitch Barnett's been named in the new South Wales

1513
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 24: Origin team, so he won't be there either. So the

1514
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 24: two co captains. Looks like Kurk cape Well won't be

1515
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 24: called up by Queensland. If he was going to be,

1516
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 24: he would have stayed over there. He got on a

1517
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 24: plane back home last night or yesterday with the team.

1518
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 24: So look Ravenes for Vegas this coming Sunday. What will

1519
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 24: be a jumping go Media ge a weekend at co

1520
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 24: Media Stadium Football Saturday League Sunday. But without the co captains,

1521
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 24: maybe it sets them back a bit, but they found

1522
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 24: a way a lot of times this year. Mike, I

1523
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 24: wouldn't put it past them to go six on the

1524
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 24: trot against the Raiders.

1525
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put it past them either, And I don't

1526
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 2: have any worries about Fisher, Harrison all those sort of things.

1527
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 2: Now I'm sad.

1528
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 3: Can we make special Yeah? Can we make special mention

1529
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 3: of Artie sat there?

1530
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah, he's fantastic. He's a generational player, isn't he.

1531
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 2: There's something magical about him.

1532
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

1533
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 17: In the commentary, our old mate Tony Johnson said it's

1534
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 17: one of the great individual performances he's ever seen in

1535
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 17: Super Rape.

1536
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 3: I'd have to agree.

1537
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 17: You know, you had Jonah early on, you had McCaw

1538
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 17: and Carter and the heyday for the Crusaders putting in

1539
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 17: amazing performances. But this modern day performance from Ardie Savvey,

1540
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 17: it was just was just brilliant. I mean defensively the

1541
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 17: turnovers and then on attack he was punting the ball,

1542
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 17: he was chipping and chasing, he was making those signature

1543
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 17: barging runs. What he's done for this team and for

1544
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 17: this franchise is just out of this w But he's

1545
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 17: lifted a lot of the players around him that it's

1546
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 17: not it's not a true one man band. A lot

1547
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 17: of the players have lifted around him and they're playing

1548
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 17: very well also. And let's not forget Mike the hoops

1549
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 17: he had to jump through to get to Mowana when

1550
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 17: a lot of people in rugby, and especially at the

1551
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 17: top levels of rugby, there were threats that were innuendo.

1552
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 17: There was in the window rather passed about him going

1553
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 17: to this Mowana team and look what's happened.

1554
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 3: Look what he's done.

1555
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 2: Are the Blues done this side? Uh?

1556
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 17: Well, they've only got one more game. They've got the

1557
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 17: War Tars I think at Eden Park in a couple

1558
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 17: of weeks. They'd have to win that probably with the

1559
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 17: bonus point to have any chance of scraping him.

1560
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 21: Yeah, the problem for Mowana is they've got two tough.

1561
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 3: Games ways too local Darby's Yeah, yeah.

1562
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 21: Hurricane so but you wouldn't put a pass them after

1563
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 21: what they did the other day. You're so right about Artie.

1564
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 24: I mean, no one's a one man team, but he

1565
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,719
Speaker 24: has almost single handedly lifted the fortunes of that team.

1566
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 24: They were, they were nowhere in the first couple of

1567
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 24: years of their life. Now here they are knocking on

1568
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 24: the on the door of the top six, and a

1569
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 24: huge part of that is down to him.

1570
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 21: Everybody around them playing well.

1571
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 24: I'll tell you what a lot of those guys in

1572
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 24: the Morner Pacific a team outplayed there. You know, they're

1573
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 24: much highly more highly credential opponents. The other night, that's right,

1574
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 24: that's right, Pony. The Blues look like a team that

1575
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 24: had just been shoved together.

1576
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 3: Yep.

1577
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 17: They looked completely out of sorts, and and you've got

1578
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 17: to give a lot of credit to Miana's defense for that.

1579
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 17: They were flying and the attack was left, right and center.

1580
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 17: But the Blues, and they're all black players, just looked flat,

1581
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 17: completely flat.

1582
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 2: Quick question on the netball save this new rule, whether

1583
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 2: the ring for the three point or extra point or

1584
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:38,560
Speaker 2: whatever the hell that is?

1585
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 22: Is it?

1586
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 17: Yes, if you had played netball, you would have made

1587
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 17: the Canterbury team and you would have nailed.

1588
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 3: Those bomb shots. If you just want to know, if

1589
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 3: you were eligible to play for the cannopy, is.

1590
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 2: It worth four points if you're playing away from the

1591
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: outside ring.

1592
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's still only worth two.

1593
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 17: I reckon it should be worth three because the distance,

1594
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 17: the distance star shooting with no backboard, it's incredibly hard.

1595
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, is it? How do you know?

1596
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just looking at it?

1597
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 2: Look hard? Does it look hard from the sofa? Seth?

1598
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 3: It looks bloody hard from the sofast? Does everything? Michael?

1599
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 21: You're still critique? Oh, I see most look at that.

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01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 2: That's exactly good as you where as.

1601
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 3: You sit on you much more expeenchive, say for going,

1602
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 3: I could have done that.

1603
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 18: I do that.

1604
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 3: These guys are idiots.

1605
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 14: Have done that?

1606
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 22: Have you?

1607
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: You've never been to my house either? It sounds exactly

1608
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 2: like I do. Well done. Nice to see you, guys.

1609
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Speaker 2: Jason Py and Andrews.

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Speaker 1: Eve twenty two, The makee Hosking Breakfast with the Range

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Speaker 2: Now, whether it's logistics firm monitoring deliveries in real time

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Speaker 2: or a tech startup demanding seamless connectivity, can we businesses

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Speaker 2: depend on strong, reliable networks. So with more than two

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Speaker 2: thousand cell sites forty six hundred kilometers of fiber two,

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Speaker 2: where still as world class networks that keep the businesses

1617
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Speaker 2: connected nation Why They've invested over a billion billion into

1618
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Speaker 2: the infrastructure that empowers local companies to succeed, making them

1619
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Speaker 2: the fastest growing telco in the business space. They're so

1620
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Speaker 2: confident in their network they offer a thirty day network guarantee.

1621
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Speaker 2: So you joined the thousands of Chiwi businesses already thriving

1622
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Speaker 2: with two degrees. Try it out. Make the switch to

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Speaker 2: two degrees switch telco, stay connected, get to business. Simple

1624
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 2: as that. Here's the address noted down two degrees dot

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Speaker 2: dz Ford slash business, two degrees dot in sed Ford

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Speaker 2: slash business to find out more. Two degrees dot inzed

1627
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Speaker 2: Ford slash business. Teas and c's asking if you miss

1628
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Speaker 2: thee the headlines Joe Biden very sadly an aggressive form

1629
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Speaker 2: announced this morning from his office. Aggressive form of prostate

1630
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 2: cancer spread to his bones. Last week's seen for a

1631
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 2: new finding of a prostate nodule and it appears so

1632
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 2: the doctors to be hormone sensitive, which allows for effective management.

1633
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 2: But his family and him are reviewing treatment options with

1634
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 2: his physicians. So from Joe Biden, Mike, if one awaits

1635
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Speaker 2: us in Spain, our son graduated in Dunedin Saturday, super

1636
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 2: proud of his hard work in his degree, taking Jack

1637
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 2: to the Grand Prix as a graduation president. How good

1638
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 2: we are both visiting and can't wait. Come on, linalm,

1639
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Speaker 2: what a treaty.

1640
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Speaker 12: I would have gone to university to get a degree

1641
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 12: if I'd known someone was going to take me to

1642
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Speaker 12: the f one so June two.

1643
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Speaker 21: I don't think that's just a default thing that happens

1644
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:23,719
Speaker 21: for everyone.

1645
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 2: No, lies are not, oh welcome, never mind news for

1646
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 2: you in a couple of moments, then across the Tasman

1647
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 2: and Steve Price in Australia here on the Mike hosting

1648
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 2: breakfast and news.

1649
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 22: Talk to.

1650
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:38,839
Speaker 1: News, opinion and everything in between. The Mike costing Breakfast

1651
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial

1652
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: and rural news togs dead be just.

1653
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 2: To update you on the Romanian vote. This is the

1654
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 2: runoff for the presidents. The it seems now with ninety

1655
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: percent of the vote in that Dan's going to win it.

1656
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 2: But is the fifty three point nine is forty six

1657
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 2: to Simeon Simon who declared victory earlier on and of

1658
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 2: course had a lead of four hundred thousand votes, none

1659
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: of which has actually come to pass. But the diaspora vote,

1660
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 2: which is the counting of that will take a while.

1661
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 2: And he's putting his hope Spain, UK, Germany, France, Italy,

1662
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 2: a lot of people voting from off shore. His hope

1663
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 2: lies in that. Whether he's got seven percent is I

1664
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 2: suppose debatable, but it ainate over till it's over. Twenty

1665
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: three to nine.

1666
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,600
Speaker 1: International correspondence with endsit, eye insurance, peace of mind for

1667
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 1: New Zealand, business.

1668
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 2: Strikes last, bring the money to you good That so

1669
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: Elbow was wearing a Sunnis and a sea of world leaders,

1670
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 2: there was one man with sunnys on and that was Elbow.

1671
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 14: And in a kubra hat. Can you explain that to me?

1672
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 22: I just don't understand. So for all of our wonderful

1673
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 22: listeners who've never worn on a cubra hat. It's an

1674
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 22: Australian brand. It's like our version of the cowboy had

1675
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 22: I suppose cool hat. And now politicians normally pull it

1676
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 22: out of a bag somewhere when they go outside of

1677
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 22: a capital city. So if they're campaigning or launching a

1678
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 22: new transport project somewhere out in the bush, they put

1679
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 22: onto the kubra. This is from a politician. By the way,

1680
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 22: antonew Venezia holds an inner urban seat in Sydney, which

1681
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 22: is about as far away from a cubra wearing as

1682
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 22: you could possibly get. It looks ridiculous when they do

1683
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 22: it here. It looked even more ridiculous in my view

1684
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 22: to do it at the Vatican.

1685
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 14: In Rome in Italy.

1686
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 2: Now.

1687
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 14: I don't know about you, Mike, but when you travel

1688
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 14: you try and blend in a little bit. You don't

1689
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 14: try and stand out if you possibly can. And there

1690
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 14: is this.

1691
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:45,560
Speaker 22: Blow representing our country wandering around in sunglasses wearing a

1692
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 22: hat that he would not normally even wear at home.

1693
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 22: I mean, am I being too harsh?

1694
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 2: Well well no, I mean, just let me put this

1695
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 2: spart to your thinning on top warm day in.

1696
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 14: Rome baseball cap.

1697
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 22: I mean, anyway, he also met with bottom Zelensky on

1698
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 22: more serious matters on the sidelines. And finally these M

1699
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 22: one A one tanks that we no longer use in

1700
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 22: Australia because what would be the point of having tanks

1701
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 22: in Australia. Ever, anyway, because no one's coming invading us

1702
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 22: over the outside, Darwin, we're going to hit them with tanks.

1703
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 22: The ridiculous to own them. So we've decided we donate

1704
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,759
Speaker 22: them to Ukraine, which desperately does need that sort of armory.

1705
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 22: And they never left Australian shores. But we now learn

1706
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 22: after this meeting between Zelenski and Anthony Alberanizi, that the

1707
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 22: tanks are now quote on their way. A couple of

1708
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 22: weeks ago the media revealed that the tanks we had

1709
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 22: promised I think about three years ago, we were sitting

1710
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 22: in a shed somewhere and hadn't even left the country.

1711
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 22: Now they are unlike the X fighter planes that we

1712
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 22: cut up and buried and don't use anymore. So the

1713
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 22: tanks are on their way to Ukraine. The meeting with

1714
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 22: Zelenski went very well, mister Albernizi. He told him it's

1715
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 22: crucial that we dem and Ukraine determines its own future.

1716
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 22: He said Australia has already donated one point five billion

1717
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 22: dollars in support, primarily military and defense support because the

1718
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 22: struggles is a quote from the Prime Minister. The struggle

1719
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 22: and the courage that your people are showing is quite remarkable,

1720
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 22: as is your leadership.

1721
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 14: So we're all in on Ukraine.

1722
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 2: Well, we're all into what extent because I thought, I mean,

1723
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 2: Trump's supposed to be ringing everyone tomorrow and we're going

1724
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 2: to get some sort of peace to Are you still

1725
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 2: giving these tanks to funder war or are you giving

1726
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 2: these tanks because you're promised and you're a bit embarrassed

1727
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 2: and they're sort of hopefully won't be used anymore if

1728
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 2: and when we ever get to some sort of peace

1729
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 2: of room.

1730
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 22: One hundred percent the latter comment that you make. They're

1731
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 22: on a ship on their way there. They should have

1732
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 22: been there two years ago. They will finally get there.

1733
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 22: Everyone hopes that the war's over by the time they

1734
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 22: do get there. And I presume I don't know if

1735
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 22: you've ever been delected in time, but when you go

1736
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 22: to the border, there's a tank sitting there in the

1737
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 22: tiniest country in Europe. I presume they'll stick them on

1738
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,799
Speaker 22: the border and say don't come back to our territory.

1739
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 22: Otherwise the N ONEA ones will be there ready to

1740
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 22: should shells at you.

1741
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 2: Is there in the budget in Victoria tomorrow something for everybody,

1742
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 2: even though.

1743
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 22: You have no money, We have no money, and there

1744
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 22: is something for everyone in this budget. Absolutely, and it

1745
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 22: starts with guess what, Free public transport for anyone under

1746
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 22: the age of eighteen for the rest of their lives,

1747
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 22: starting on January the first next year.

1748
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 14: Now the election is next year, twenty twenty six. We

1749
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,719
Speaker 14: are broke. But you'll be given a card.

1750
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,799
Speaker 22: So you have to use a Mikey card in Melbourne

1751
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 22: to travel on trains or trams or buses. So anyone

1752
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 22: under eighteen will be issued with a special card that

1753
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 22: will cost a fortune and you will be able to

1754
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:44,520
Speaker 22: tap this on to ride for free. This is all

1755
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 22: very well and good. I should point out though that

1756
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 22: the Premier, who probably doesn't catch as many trains and

1757
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 22: trams as what I do, is that anyone under the

1758
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 22: age of eighteen, particularly anyone between the ages of say

1759
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 22: twelve and eighteen, they don't pay anyone. I never see

1760
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 22: anyone bet on a Melbourne tram or a trained tappa cart.

1761
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 2: Very glad you said that, because last time I was

1762
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 2: in Melbourne and we were coming out of the restaurant

1763
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 2: of my daughter and my wife and I and she goes,

1764
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 2: we'll catch the train home and I said, well, what

1765
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 2: do you need for that?

1766
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 12: Do you need a credit card cash? She goes, don't

1767
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 12: need anything, just hop on board, noe pays anyway.

1768
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:22,600
Speaker 22: Undred So it's a great promise. It's going to on

1769
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 22: paper who costs a lot of money, but in reality

1770
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 22: it's already happening.

1771
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 14: And I should just point out this wonderful figure for you.

1772
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 22: The Victorian government debt in twenty fourteen twenty fifteen was

1773
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,759
Speaker 22: twenty two zero point three billion dollars.

1774
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 14: A lot of money, doesn't it makes them?

1775
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 22: Could that be because of to day in twenty twenty seven,

1776
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 22: twenty twenty eight, So in two years time will be

1777
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 22: one hundred and eighty seven point three billion dollars.

1778
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 2: Actually funny you should say that. I think ours from memory,

1779
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 2: our national debt is about that as well, and so

1780
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: we're a whole country. Mind you, you'll at least five million,

1781
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 2: but our bill on the interest for that is eight

1782
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 2: going on nine billion dollars a year just on interest,

1783
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 2: so yours will be something similar.

1784
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 14: Yes, several million dollars a day we're paying on just.

1785
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 2: You watch the F one this morning Oscar Oscar Max

1786
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 2: won and he won by a lot, So that whole

1787
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 2: Oscar slash and Lando dominance thing seems to be at

1788
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 2: least putting its box for a week. Yeah.

1789
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 14: Look, I mean it was the first second turn, wasn't it.

1790
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 14: I mean he was on pole. He just he let

1791
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 14: Mex get through.

1792
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 22: He breaked a bit too early, and Max breaked later

1793
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 22: and went straight past. Once he was past him, he

1794
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 22: was not unless there was a problem. He was not

1795
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 22: going to lose, so I wouldn't read too much into that.

1796
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 22: Oscar said afterwards that he thought that he'd made a mistake,

1797
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 22: and they also was a pit stop problem where they

1798
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 22: put him on old He was still on old tires

1799
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 22: and Norris went past him.

1800
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:51,600
Speaker 21: But there you go.

1801
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 14: That's what formula one D.

1802
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 2: That is true. Hey, quick question. I read what I

1803
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,919
Speaker 2: thought was a very interesting article over the weekend in Australia.

1804
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,560
Speaker 2: They looked at a number of individual boot out of

1805
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:04,560
Speaker 2: the election and the swing in Elbow's electorate in some

1806
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 2: of the booths, he had a swing to him of

1807
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 2: twenty five percent. How do you explain that gibbon one?

1808
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 2: You already knew who he was. Generally a prime minister's

1809
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 2: reasonably popular in their local electorate. What is it that

1810
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 2: happened that so many people suddenly fell in love with

1811
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 2: them that way?

1812
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:24,560
Speaker 22: Well, I guess you're going to go back to the

1813
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 22: election before, and there was a very strong vote for

1814
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 22: both a Kiel candidate and an independent candidate and the Greens.

1815
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 22: So I would put that down without having a look

1816
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 22: at that particular booth. A whole bunch of people who

1817
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 22: thought they were voting Green in the election prior to

1818
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 22: a recent one decided that the Greens had become such

1819
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 22: a nasty, hard left pro Palestine party that they would

1820
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 22: pull their votes from the Greens and give it to

1821
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 22: alban Ezy.

1822
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 2: That's what I suspecting to see Wednesday. Preciate it very

1823
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: much to the Price Out of Australia eight forty five.

1824
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 1: The Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1825
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:05,759
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1826
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 2: Be Mike explained this for me, I'm losing two of

1827
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 2: my guys who are tilers to Australia as they're offered

1828
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 2: sixty five an hour on wages which I just can't

1829
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,560
Speaker 2: compete with. But look at what they can build a

1830
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 2: house for in Australia. It's way cheaper than New Zealand.

1831
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 2: It's around three and a half thousand dollars a square meter.

1832
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 2: So I can't work it out. Murray, you're wrong. I

1833
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 2: don't know where you get three and a half thousand

1834
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 2: meters for dollars a meter from, because just last week

1835
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 2: I was reading the cost of building quote unquote the

1836
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 2: cost of building a new house has reached a record high.

1837
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 2: There's little chants the prices will ease. Labor and materials

1838
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 2: costs have jumped, no sign of reverting to previous levels.

1839
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 2: The average cost to build a new house is over

1840
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,719
Speaker 2: half a million dollars now five hundred and four thousand,

1841
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 2: one hundred and nine dollars, six and a half percent

1842
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 2: higher than a year earlier, and fifty three percent higher

1843
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 2: than a March of twenty nineteen. So if your numbers

1844
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 2: are wrong, that's how they can do it. The costs

1845
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 2: are just going up and up, so they might be

1846
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 2: paying your billders, your tire of sixty five dollars now,

1847
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 2: but they're pinging off to the people who are buying

1848
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: the house, which gets me to the part Australia is

1849
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 2: a great place to live. Bit allowsy pace to work.

1850
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 2: I'll do that tomorrow. That was a very good piece

1851
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 2: of read over the weekend for all of the people

1852
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 2: who are leaving the country thinking Australia is great.

1853
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 12: It's not.

1854
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 2: But I come back to what I was talking to

1855
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister about. It's pathetic, Mike that we want

1856
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 2: foreign investment but won't allow them to own properties over

1857
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 2: something at five million dollars, which would be less than

1858
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 2: one percent of the property transactions a year. I've got

1859
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 2: to next time we get Peter's on, I've got to

1860
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 2: talk to them about I just cannot, for the life

1861
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 2: of me, that general argument that you just don't want

1862
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 2: foreigners coming and snapping up houses. Fair enough, I fully

1863
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 2: get that, But at five million dollars, next to no

1864
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 2: one in this country buys a house worth five plus

1865
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 2: million dollars, and therefore, what is it you're afraid of?

1866
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 2: Read Peter Dunn's pieces. The other thing I read over

1867
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 2: the weekend National's worst week in Office and the outlines

1868
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 2: all the things that went wrong and he's right, he's correct.

1869
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 2: But before I leave Australia, just quickly the Lions are

1870
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 2: coming are the lines? There seems to be a real

1871
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 2: for song about the Lions, mainly because it's only every

1872
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: dozen years or so. Tickets of five forty nine dollars,

1873
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 2: which everyone's moaning about because it's too expensive. More than

1874
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 2: half a million fans are expected. But I asked this

1875
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 2: question just because it's the British and Irish Lions and

1876
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 2: it's all super exciting. If you're coming to play somebody

1877
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 2: who's useless, why would you then want to go? I mean,

1878
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 2: Australia can't play rugby and we all know that they're

1879
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 2: no good, so therefore, why would you get excited about

1880
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 2: a thrashing?

1881
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: I think there's an Australian team on top of the

1882
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: Super Rugby this week. Unfortunately it's only because the Chiefs

1883
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:39,759
Speaker 1: had the weekend off, of course.

1884
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 2: Exactly, but I mean, one provincial side does not a

1885
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,759
Speaker 2: national side make would be my argument. Night Away from nine.

1886
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: The Make Asking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate news Togs THEBBE.

1887
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 2: I was going to get this early, but as usual,

1888
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 2: events have overtaken me, so just christ chitch, wake up,

1889
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 2: what's the matter with you? There's business of the cross

1890
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 2: at Sumner Cave Rock. The cross has been there since

1891
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 2: eighteen sixty four, and there's angst. I'm watching this on there.

1892
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 2: It was saiday night, I'm watching it on the television news.

1893
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 2: Somebody called Andrew Docking. Andrew, come on, I don't like it.

1894
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 2: They put lights at Solar Powers. They don't panic about

1895
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 2: the power bill. They put lights on this cross a

1896
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 2: cave rock, fabulous place, big cross, been there forever. They

1897
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 2: put some lights on. So Andrew Docking of Sumner says,

1898
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 2: I don't like them. They're bright and they're horrible. It

1899
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 2: looks like Vegas. It doesn't Vegas looks like Vegas. A

1900
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 2: singular cross with some lights looks like a singular cross

1901
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 2: with some lights in Sumner. Andrew Morris of Clifton Hill,

1902
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 2: which is very nice. My grandparents had a place in

1903
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 2: Clifton Hill. It ought not to be the shape of

1904
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 2: a Christian cross. I mean, oh, for God's sake, So anyway, sure,

1905
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 2: and so that's not the worst of it. There's always

1906
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 2: someone's going to moan.

1907
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 5: It's like those those vehicles that go past those big

1908
01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 5: lit up crosses on them.

1909
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 2: That's great, that's so noisy, so noisy, so bright. And

1910
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,839
Speaker 2: then and those crosses just there in our Vegas. Anyway,

1911
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 2: the Council, instead of going get lost losers, is going

1912
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 2: to launch a survey as though they've got nothing better

1913
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 2: to do with their time. Five minutes away from.

1914
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 1: Nine trending now with chemist's warehouse, me megasale.

1915
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 2: On now Now the plane continues to be a problem.

1916
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 2: Trump's got another busy week. He's going to hit the

1917
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 2: phones tomorrow. Why is it Monday. I'm going to ring

1918
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 2: them on Monday. This is a war is He's got

1919
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 2: too much golf on over the weekend. We've got to

1920
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 2: can't do it until Monday. Anyway, He's going to hit

1921
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 2: the phones. He's got the he's got the Walmart Edam

1922
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 2: tariff thing, but he's still got the plane problem from

1923
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 2: the Middle East. So Susan Collins, who's a Republican really

1924
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 2: in name only, it's rife with political espionage. Rick Scott,

1925
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: who's a genuine Republican, isn't convinced it's a good idea.

1926
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 2: Ran Paul, who wanted to be a Republican president, said

1927
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 2: it could undermine Trump's wins raised more questions and isn't

1928
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 2: worth the headache, coudn't agree with them more? And that's

1929
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 2: before I keep constitutionally it's against the law anyway, the

1930
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 2: Deems have had a craik.

1931
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 21: Saudi Arabia giving twenty five million dollars guitar or all

1932
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 21: of these countries.

1933
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 22: These are people that.

1934
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 21: Kill women and treat women horribly, and yet you take

1935
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 21: their money. Got a gift to me.

1936
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:20,600
Speaker 22: It's a gift to the Department of Defense. And you

1937
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 22: should know better.

1938
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Speaker 24: Why don't you give back the money that you've taken

1939
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 24: from certain countries that treat certain groups of people so horribly?

1940
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 2: You should be embarrassed to asking that question.

1941
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 7: They're giving us a free jet.

1942
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 19: I could say no, no, no, don't give us.

1943
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 14: Or I could say, thank you very much.

1944
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 2: Why don't you give back the money. I think it

1945
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:40,679
Speaker 2: would be a great gesture.

1946
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 21: I thought it was a beautiful gesture.

1947
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 22: Now there are those that say we shouldn't be accepting

1948
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 22: gifts to the Defense.

1949
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 2: Department, And I would say, only a stupid person would

1950
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 2: say that it should have never happened. Yeah, dumb idea

1951
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 2: until it's a good idea, A good idea until it's

1952
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 2: a dumb idea, and so it goes depends on whether

1953
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 2: you're in office or not.

1954
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 12: I don't know how he gets past us. He's got

1955
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 12: enough problems with his base at the moment. If you

1956
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 12: look at all the polding than this, I don't get him.

1957
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Speaker 2: Anyway. That's us for the day. Monday morning. Not too bad.

1958
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 2: We'll do four more and then we'll call it a weekend.

1959
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 2: How's that sound to you. Annie Murphy does the name

1960
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 2: ring a Bell, Shit's Creek. Murray Bartlett does the name

1961
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 2: ring a Bell, White Lotus, among others. Anyway, they're together

1962
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 2: on the program Why I Shall Tell You Tomorrow, as

1963
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 2: they say, as always, Happy Days.

1964
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Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

1965
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Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow

1966
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Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.