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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Tuddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty.

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Speaker 1: You find you're one of a kind.

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Speaker 2: On the sports Tittle this evening, we have Paul Allison

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Speaker 2: is Z b Rugby commentator Darcy Watergrave ZB sports talk host,

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Speaker 2: Hello you too.

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Speaker 3: Greetings.

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Speaker 2: Oh I forgot, but Paul, are you there?

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Speaker 4: Yeh, I'm here.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I went too hard at the gym and I've used

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Speaker 2: all my energy, so I forgot.

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Speaker 4: I'm delighted to hear you've been at the gym.

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Speaker 2: Keeping myself looking good for your Paul. Okay, Paul on

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Speaker 2: a long? Is this Dame Nole's nonsen is going to

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Speaker 2: carry on for?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Look, I don't know how long is a piece

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Speaker 4: of string. It's got to solve itself shortly, doesn't it.

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Speaker 4: I think Nipple's got a fear few problems, not just

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Speaker 4: around the coaching side. They've got issues around the broadcasting rights,

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Speaker 4: the financial state, and maybe you've got to start questioning

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Speaker 4: the whole decisiveness of their leadership leadership regime as well.

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Speaker 4: But you know, for any successful team, they need to

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Speaker 4: establish a really positive culture. Players need to buy into

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Speaker 4: that culture, and I know some really high performing international

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Speaker 4: sports coaches who select on character and attitude first and

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Speaker 4: skills and ability second. They see you you need to

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Speaker 4: get good people first and then you create a positive,

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Speaker 4: stimulating and motivating environment. Now, I think those are the

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Speaker 4: values that New Zealand Nipple's got to go back to

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Speaker 4: and actually work right through and maybe start from the

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Speaker 4: ground up. Now, were no lean sits and that we're

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Speaker 4: the players and that I don't know, but there's certainly,

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Speaker 4: from my understanding, there's a division amongst the players, and

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to resolve itself quickly, do you.

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Speaker 2: Think, Paul Okay, So, do you think that they have

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Speaker 2: the captain and vice captain or deputy captain or whatever

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Speaker 2: they called. Have they picked one from each camp this

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Speaker 2: time around, like one pro Noles and one Anti Knoles.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if that's a good move if

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Speaker 4: they have done that, because that throws a further division

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Speaker 4: amongst the team as well. I mean they traded captains

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Speaker 4: throughout that series where they had three different captains and

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Speaker 4: those three different test matches, and whether or not that

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Speaker 4: was to be able to test out their leadership ability

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Speaker 4: or the ability to be able to bring players together.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but certainly with what Grace and Wiki

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Speaker 4: did in them the caggle, she got under the soapbox

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Speaker 4: and certainly showed her side of the story. I know.

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Speaker 4: I know from a really good source that that was

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Speaker 4: not embraced some of her comments by all the players

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Speaker 4: around it.

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Speaker 2: No, so I've heard what have you heard? Darce?

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Speaker 3: Yes, But you don't hear a great deal because they're

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Speaker 3: very good at keeping a lid on everything. So as

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Speaker 3: they've often talked about nature, a boring, a vacuum and

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Speaker 3: what happens, stuff goesn't it. I'm interested in, as Paul mentioned,

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Speaker 3: the position of management here.

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Speaker 2: So can I tell you have you heard what we've

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Speaker 2: been keeping track on on the show?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I haven't prepared home show. I know we

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Speaker 3: had that actually on Sports Talk a couple of days ago. Okay,

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Speaker 3: and said, where's it gone?

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Speaker 2: So the leadership team page is gone and it's still

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Speaker 2: not up. Still Friday, and it's still I.

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Speaker 3: Think Wednesday night. One of my callers called through and said, Old,

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Speaker 3: I'm look at the leadership It's there's nobody there. If

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Speaker 3: you look. I'm sure Paul will agree that when you

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Speaker 3: look at a situation like this, whoever's that fault, the

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Speaker 3: person who's leading the organization ultimately is responsible for the tumult,

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Speaker 3: and that is the CEO does that's it is.

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Speaker 2: If one's showing too many ways.

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Speaker 3: Yes, some people will say no, somebody hates a fan.

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Speaker 3: It's a bit of eye candy for the mails and

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Speaker 3: so on and so forth. Think it's kind of quite

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Speaker 3: an old school thing, but weirded out by it was

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Speaker 3: so much in Singapore. But when you show the wives

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Speaker 3: and girlfriends sitting in the pits staring at a screen,

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Speaker 3: and you don't show the action on the tarmac and

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Speaker 3: it's only an hour and forty minutes, that's it. You

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Speaker 3: can cover all that off whenever you want. But when

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Speaker 3: it's racing, what.

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Speaker 2: About a quick shot just to quick like a couple

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Speaker 3: Well, no, that's fine. But if someone's passing somebody on

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Speaker 3: a hair, and if someone's coming into the pit lane

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Speaker 3: where do you sit on this?

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Speaker 4: You laugh? I'm wondering what sort of passing you're talking about,

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Speaker 4: Darcy to be fear, But who's making a pass on? Who?

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Speaker 4: But look, you start looking at Hollywood stars and sporting

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Speaker 4: celebrities that are little around Formula One, aren't they The

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Speaker 4: fact that the TV coverage is focusing on them during

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Speaker 4: the race itself, I think is a good is not

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Speaker 4: a good approach to take, And this is what the

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Speaker 4: fans are saying. This is what is coming through now

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Speaker 4: as a reaction, saying, hey, we want to watch the race.

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Speaker 4: We don't mind seeing some of the girlfriends afterwards, or

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Speaker 4: maybe with their drivers and the partners afterwards, but not

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Speaker 4: during the race their stuch. Okay here you're probably right

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Speaker 4: one or two seconds, but you don't need to dwell

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Speaker 4: on it because the coverage is about the motor racing,

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Speaker 4: not about the girlfriends.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and come back to

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Speaker 2: you guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're getting applause.

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Speaker 1: Paul the Friday Sports title with New Zealand South of

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Speaker 2: Right, you're back with the sports Hittle Paul Allison and

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Speaker 2: Darcy Watergrave. Darce do you think this is on the

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Speaker 2: Saudi rugby game? I want to call it rugby league,

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Speaker 2: but it's a rugby union league. Do you see? The

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Speaker 2: NRL bosses are also now wanting to sanction the players.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: There's a couple of things to take out of this

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Speaker 3: from the research I've done. One of them is R

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Speaker 3: three sixty A pretty much invisible. You can't get hold

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Speaker 3: of them, you can't talk to them, you can't find

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Speaker 3: out anything about them. They don't exist. Secondly, I've found

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Speaker 3: out that the money it's not Saudi money. It's not

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Speaker 3: coming from Saudi American money. I don't know. They ain't

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Speaker 3: quite I'm trying to ring. I'm emailing work.

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Speaker 2: At where I've been told it's American.

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Speaker 3: People presume at Saudi because are going to be registered

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Speaker 3: to Saudi interests. But it's not Saudi money. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if there's any true than that, but that's what

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Speaker 3: i'm hearing. So and I'm sure you'll agree Paul, World Rugby,

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Speaker 3: I'm not so much. The NRL World Rugby are essentially panicking.

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Speaker 3: That's why they've come out and go, oh, not on

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Speaker 3: our watch. They've drawn along the sound so I know

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Speaker 3: you don't know, you don't because they know this. Paul

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Speaker 3: has the potential to shake up global rugby and it

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Speaker 3: needs a shake up because the pals in the Northern

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Speaker 3: Hemisphere steadfastly refuse to acknowledge global rugby or go any further.

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Speaker 3: They pay lip service, but they do nothing, So they're

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Speaker 3: primed for the plucking, aren't they, Paul Paul.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, when you look at the fact that they

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Speaker 4: have put these shutters up now in the eight countries

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Speaker 4: and the eight strongest countries pretty much in the Worldbeth Australia,

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Speaker 4: New Zealand said, Afriga Island, England, Scotland, France and Italy.

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Speaker 4: I said, look, if you go to this three sixty,

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Speaker 4: not eligible for World Cups, you're not eligible for Olympic

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Speaker 4: Games and the like. So they've put the shutters up there.

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Speaker 4: Whether this goes anywhere or not, I don't know. Love

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Speaker 4: golf has Athletics tried it with the Grand Slam track

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Speaker 4: meets which didn't come off, and then that Super Soccer

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Speaker 4: League sort of got aboarded, so they've tried this in

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Speaker 4: the past. I mean, what you need to do, Dars,

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Speaker 4: You've got the tip here for you. If you wren't

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Speaker 4: really going to go to the source, go to the

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Speaker 4: Royal family and get hold of Charlie and just see

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Speaker 4: what the Christmas invitations like and then Mike Tyndall will

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Speaker 4: tell you exactly what's going on, because he's the face

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Speaker 4: of it all too fair enough.

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Speaker 3: I haven't got him on speed dial. I've tried the

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Speaker 3: Crown Prince, but he won't take my call.

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Speaker 2: That's inside something controversial for you, Darcy. Now you know

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Speaker 2: lovely producer Libby over there. She has said that the

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Speaker 2: reason that we've had three umpires in the Women's Cricket

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Speaker 2: World Cup causing so much confusion is because they've gone

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Speaker 2: too hard on trying to be progressive and get only

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Speaker 2: only female umpires an experience.

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Speaker 3: You could lean that way if you want. I think

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Speaker 3: it's important that can can judge. They can umpire under

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Speaker 3: extreme as they can under extreme pressure. There's been a

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Speaker 3: couple of or three decisions that have been let's let's

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Speaker 3: not forget this, that have been dicey and difficult. And

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Speaker 3: now I can hear Libby in the cans garden.

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Speaker 2: Have we lost quality in the reffing because they've tried

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Speaker 2: to be too progressive? Instead, all female umpiring team for

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Speaker 2: the first time, brackets.

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Speaker 3: Everybody makes me Paul, do you remember Nigel Long and

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Speaker 3: that dreaded call that could have been anything.

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Speaker 4: Oh look, I can remember some shocking calls from umpires

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Speaker 4: over the years. But now they've got technology and the

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Speaker 4: fact that you can go upstairs for the calls that

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Speaker 4: you're not sure about for the next and the court

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Speaker 4: behind and the LBWs and some of the real critical calls.

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Speaker 4: You now can put them under review and the technology

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Speaker 4: will actually do it for you. So the role that

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Speaker 4: an umpire plays in credit these days are still But

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Speaker 4: it's a lot of.

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Speaker 2: You to stop being such a misogyny.

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Speaker 3: No, no, one of them. One of the umpires actually

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Speaker 3: wasn't asked to review it and went ahead and did

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Speaker 3: it anyway and made a decision contrary to the rules

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Speaker 3: of the game. But umpires and refreasings always make mistakes.

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Speaker 3: It's a given. And I think we've got an overcorrection

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Speaker 3: situation here, okay, where they're so paranoid they look at

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Speaker 3: everything all the time. Same with the neat ballers. Over

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Speaker 3: correction around player power. It's gone too far, after all,

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Speaker 3: it is like high performance.

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Speaker 2: Why this is funny to me is because producer Olivia

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Speaker 2: is the least like she's the least likely person to

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Speaker 2: be such a misogynist. She's actually very woke, So I

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Speaker 2: think she's just written that to appeal to me. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: she says, no, yep, never mind, never mind what she

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Speaker 2: says to me. Guys, have a lovely weekend of sport.

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Speaker 2: Paul hate By the way, are you calling the NBC?

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Speaker 4: I am tonight. Yeah, who's been a white kado Otago

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Speaker 4: will win that one, but narrowly, I think because Whitekato's

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Speaker 4: been boosted back with some all blacks. Cannibury will knock

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Speaker 4: over Counties Mannekow the other two tomorrow starting at ten

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Speaker 4: past four and ten past seven. I can't pick them.

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Speaker 4: Are really close, brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good luck with that. Have a lovely evening and Darcy,

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Speaker 2: thank you as always for everything. As Paul Allison and

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Speaker 2: Darcy watergorow our Sports talk O Sports Huddle rather this

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