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Speaker 1: Roadside drug testing has been passed into law. That was

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Speaker 1: the other law that got through its third reading yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Police we'll be able to undertake random roadsides to the liber tests.

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Speaker 1: Of course, there were a few concerns around the people

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Speaker 1: on the ADHD, anxiety, whatever sort of medicine. Transport Minister

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Speaker 1: Chris Bishop with this morning, good morning, this drug driving.

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Speaker 1: The level of difference you would expected to make. Is

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Speaker 1: this a game changer or just another tool in the toolbox.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a tool on this toolbox and I hope

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Speaker 2: it will make a difference over time. The police are

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Speaker 2: going to do about fifty thousand oral roadside fluid drug

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Speaker 2: tests per year. They've funded to do that when we've

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Speaker 2: instructed them to do that. It's another tool in the toolbox.

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Speaker 2: About thirty percent of deaths and serious injuries on our

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Speaker 2: roads are connected to drug use. It's actually quite a

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Speaker 2: high number when you think about it, and you know,

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Speaker 2: when you take a step back and you say, well,

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Speaker 2: we've had thirty years of blood alcohol testing, breath testing

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Speaker 2: which people are pretty familiar with, but controversial when it

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Speaker 2: first came in, but it's hard to imagine the roads

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Speaker 2: without it. Now I think we'll look back in five

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Speaker 2: to ten years and say, you know what, it was

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Speaker 2: pretty crazy that for a long time you could get high,

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Speaker 2: get behind the whet and you could never get caught

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Speaker 2: and there was no punishment for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that, But at most of the

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Speaker 1: problems of the canna do you talk of are they

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Speaker 1: drugs and drink related? In other words, if you get

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Speaker 1: the drink, you'll get the drugs. Or do people exclusively

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Speaker 1: take drugs and go drive.

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Speaker 2: All the figures I've got are that that drugs and

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Speaker 2: alcohol are are, you know, combined the number one cause

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Speaker 2: of deaths and serious injuries and drugs are a big

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Speaker 2: part of that. And you know we're time to take action.

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Speaker 2: Parliament's had three three goes at this over the years,

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Speaker 2: you know, Julie Engin to trides do it nashtrite and

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Speaker 2: we think we've got it right now.

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Speaker 1: The prescription drug aspect of it, people on ADHD or that,

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Speaker 1: do you wait that, do you give that some credence

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Speaker 1: or not?

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Speaker 2: That the tests won't pack up for that stuff. So

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Speaker 2: it's it's testing for things like cocaine, ecstasy, marijuana, and

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Speaker 2: they've got some pretty sophisticated tests out there that other

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Speaker 2: jurisdictions use that we're hoping to use here where you

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Speaker 2: pick that stuff up and you know you would have

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Speaker 2: two tests at the roadside, and and you know then

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Speaker 2: if there's two tests that you fail, then you will

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Speaker 2: be banned from driving for twelve hours.

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Speaker 1: While I've got you this k road building that you're

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Speaker 1: on about the other day, you are m a reform.

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Speaker 1: I note the Fed farmers are behind it, which is good.

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Speaker 1: But we had Hipkins on the program yesterday. I can't

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Speaker 1: work him out. He sounds like he wants to cooperate,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think he wants to cooperate at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day. Is cooperation going anywhere? Hand on heart,

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Speaker 1: do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: Yes? It is. I've written to Labor and the Greens

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Speaker 2: and I've said lot in good faith, let's sit down

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Speaker 2: and work together. Now we have election commitments around, you know,

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Speaker 2: making it easier to farm, get well in and out

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Speaker 2: of farming. We're not going to compromise on those. But

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Speaker 2: you know RMA reforms think right. This devil is in

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Speaker 2: the detail on this stuff, and I want to genuinely

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Speaker 2: work with the opposition to get it right. It's an

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Speaker 2: everyone's interest that we have a stable regulatory environment, and

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Speaker 2: I reckon, you know, when there's a world, there's a

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Speaker 2: way if we can get some stability on this stuff,

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Speaker 2: it's really important. So I'm really determined to try because

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Speaker 2: it's in the country's interest.

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Speaker 1: Will you be the person that change the direction of

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Speaker 1: the country in terms of regulation so we never see

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Speaker 1: a k road building like that rejected, or a wind

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Speaker 1: farm in Southland rejected in a way that no one

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Speaker 1: can truly explain.

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Speaker 2: Mike, that is my aim. I wake up every morning

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Speaker 2: determined to try and liberalize the planning laws in this country.

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Speaker 2: It's totally insane where we've got to. It's too hard

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Speaker 2: to build houses, too hard to build energy projects, too

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Speaker 2: hard to actually get stuff built in this country. And

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Speaker 2: the lock if I can in my time as in

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Speaker 2: Parliament having fixed our planning laws so that we can

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Speaker 2: actually get on and build stuff again, and I'll be

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Speaker 2: a happy man.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, all right, good on, you go well

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Speaker 1: Chris Bushop the RIMA but also Transport Minister of course.

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