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Speaker 1: Pressing the newspakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: due to c Allen Drive with one New Zealand Let's

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Speaker 2: Falk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, welcome to the show. And coming up today,

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Speaker 3: New Zealand Cricket's CEO on the news that Kane Williamson

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Speaker 3: will relinquish the black Caps captaincy. That new north Shore hospital.

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Speaker 3: We've learned it's going to partially open, but it's not

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Speaker 3: going to lead to any more surgery. So we'll speak

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Speaker 3: to the doctor's union about that and also speak to

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Speaker 3: a business owner in Newtown, Wellington about how much she

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Speaker 3: loves that cycle way that's got those two green MP's

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Speaker 3: in trouble today. Heather Dup for c Allen look on

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Speaker 3: the cricket you can hardly begrudge Kane Williamson. Can you

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Speaker 3: for finally deciding he wants to prioritize making money over

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Speaker 3: wearing the black shirt? I mean, the guy has more

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Speaker 3: than put in his time with the black Caps. He's

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Speaker 3: been in the squad since twenty ten, he's been the

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Speaker 3: captain since twenty sixteen. You can't. I mean he has

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Speaker 3: got so many records, you know, you can't fault his

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Speaker 3: effort and so actually is true even for Lockie Ferguson.

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Speaker 3: He's been in the squad since twenty sixteen himself. And

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Speaker 3: we've sort of got used to this idea through rugby,

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Speaker 3: haven't we, where the players do their time playing for

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Speaker 3: the squad and black and then they head off overseas

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Speaker 3: and they make their money around the world. That is

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Speaker 3: just what these two cricket boys are doing. But it's

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Speaker 3: not to say that there isn't something bigger going on here,

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Speaker 3: because there is something big going on. It is just

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Speaker 3: another example, I would say, of what's coming for us.

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Speaker 3: And we've been talking about this on the show now

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Speaker 3: for two years. This is the footballization of cricket, where

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Speaker 3: basically you get super tournaments like the IPL and the

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Speaker 3: South African Tea twenty Tournament, which become more important and

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Speaker 3: better spectacles than the international fixtures are because it's where

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Speaker 3: the money is, so they draw in the superstars. And

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Speaker 3: the first real sign that it's happening is that you

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Speaker 3: have your star players prioritize those competitions overrepresenting their country,

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Speaker 3: and we're seeing that happen. Trent Bolt has done it,

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Speaker 3: Kane Williamson is doing it Lockie Ferguson is doing it,

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Speaker 3: and let me remind you, basically the whole team did

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Speaker 3: it just a few days ago because the IPL players

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Speaker 3: apparently want to to rest rather than play a warm

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Speaker 3: up match before the T twenty World Cup, and so

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Speaker 3: as a result, no warm up match meant that the

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Speaker 3: black Caps were knocked out after basically two matches. That

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Speaker 3: there is a straight prioritization of the IPL overplaying for

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Speaker 3: the black Caps. Now, I think the only way for

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Speaker 3: us to fix this, I mean, we don't have to

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Speaker 3: take this lying down right. The way you can fix

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Speaker 3: them is if the rugby sorry, the cricket bosses globally

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Speaker 3: set aside very clear windows where they say, this is

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Speaker 3: the part of the year where the money making tournaments

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Speaker 3: can play and this is the part of the year

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Speaker 3: where the international fixtures can play it and they don't overlap,

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Speaker 3: and you get the players that you need for both

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Speaker 3: of them. Right, That's probably the only way I would

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Speaker 3: say to keep the black Caps from becoming essentially a

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Speaker 3: B squad, which is the future for us. That is

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Speaker 3: what is going to happen. The big tournaments are going

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Speaker 3: to have all the star players and we're just gonna

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Speaker 3: have the scraps pulled together for the international fixtures. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: on these two boys, as I say, you can't begrudge

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Speaker 3: these guys. They've put the time in, but don't overlook

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Speaker 3: what is happening here.

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Speaker 2: We together do for see and we will talk to.

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Speaker 3: Scott Winingk about it when with us after five o'clock.

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Speaker 3: We'll put this to him now to something else. Sale

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Speaker 3: GP has pulled the plug on next year's event in Littleton.

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Speaker 3: The New Zealand Herald understands there will still be a

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Speaker 3: New Zealand event included in the sale GP schedule next year,

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Speaker 3: but as of yet nothing's been confirmed. Sale GP boss

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Speaker 3: Sir Russell Coots made it clear during this year's event

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Speaker 3: because of Hector's dolphins.

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Speaker 4: With any decision like this, there needs to be a balance.

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Speaker 4: For example, one could say that because there's a chance

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Speaker 3: Lauren Aberhart is christ Church, New Zealand General manager of

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Speaker 5: Now Hey Lauren, Hey, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm very well? Thank you?

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Speaker 6: Ay?

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Speaker 3: You gutted? Or did you see this coming?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 5: We're incredibly disappointed. And we've been working for years with

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Speaker 3: How much money are you guys are going to lose

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Speaker 5: So the economic impact or the visitors been was three

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Speaker 5: point three million for the last event, so that's disappointing.

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Speaker 5: But we do have a huge partline of major events

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Speaker 3: Just Deloutte has priced at about twenty one million US

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Speaker 5: No, So that's a different methodology which takes into an

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Speaker 5: economic impact, so that's also right. We consider three point

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Speaker 3: What could you guys have changed to keep it?

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Speaker 8: So?

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Speaker 5: The Marine Mental Protection Acts nineteen seventy eight is a

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Speaker 5: many years ago and has been something that has restricted

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Speaker 5: the ability to race in Littleton because it's a marine

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Speaker 5: normal sanctuary. So complying with that piece of legislation is

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Speaker 5: largely what has created some of the operational challenges.

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Speaker 3: Was there a little bit Lauren, Was there a little

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Speaker 3: bit of discretion though that could have been used by

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Speaker 3: or was that not even available under the legislation? No

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Speaker 5: So we explored what the options were with the Department

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Speaker 5: of Conservation. They were very actively involved and gave us

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Speaker 5: the grant to run the event on the harbor. We

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Speaker 5: wanted to work through options for that For the twenty

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Speaker 5: in that short time frame, so was four We had

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Speaker 5: twelve weeks, so we couldn't overturn legislation in that time

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Speaker 3: Was it possible that under the existing legislation, Doc would

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Speaker 5: It's incredibly dependent on the day where the dolphins are,

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Speaker 5: I think from Doc's perspective, because we all had twelve

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Speaker 5: With a little bit more time and working with the minister,

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Speaker 5: we may have been able to look at what options

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Speaker 3: And if we change the legislation, Lauren, would we have

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Speaker 3: been would it have been like a free for all

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Speaker 9: Lot.

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Speaker 5: This is probably where I'm outside of my scope. The legislation,

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Speaker 5: as far as we understand it means that we need

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Speaker 5: fantastic and working with us from their perspective. There's also

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Speaker 5: an opportunity here where we have raised the flight attectors

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Speaker 3: Okay, Lauren, thanks very much, really appreciated. Lauren Aberhart christ

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Speaker 3: ut Musing on general manager of Destination and Attraction, I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: it's going to be a binary thing for people. It's

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Speaker 3: get sliced up. And somewhere in between is where the

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Speaker 3: truth lies. And I suspect that there would have been

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Speaker 3: a way to amend the legislation. Take some power away

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Speaker 3: from doc, maybe take some power away from the local ere.

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Speaker 3: We do something like that to be able to make

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Speaker 3: what do we have? What have we got lots of

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Speaker 3: gone to you. Christ Church. How good is this? Navidia, Nvidia,

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 3: We voted against giving this Elon the money. Yep, Classic

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. No Elon, you cannot have the money. Meta

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's hither duplicy allan

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Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand one giant leap for business

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Speaker 3: It'd be eighteen past five four four.

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Speaker 10: Let's try that one again.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen past four Darcy Waldgrave's wait here, how are you hello? Darcian?

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Speaker 3: Very well, thank you. So Patrick's back for the Blues.

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Speaker 3: So the Blues are going to win.

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Speaker 10: Paddy tu Ups has made the return. It's Patrick two

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Speaker 10: Boty for those who don't know his nickname. This is

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Speaker 10: very similar to what Sam Whitelook Whitelock did last year

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Speaker 10: when he decided to miraculously come back from injury and

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Speaker 10: play a full eighty minutes for the Crusaders to win

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Speaker 10: that title. Of course that was Scott Robinson's decision. I'm

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Speaker 10: sure that Ian Foster wasn't overly pleased him. The fact

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Speaker 10: the hold on, that's one of our key all Blacks.

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Speaker 10: Don't you dare break him? So this time around the

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Speaker 10: medics he said it was going to be sixty seven

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Speaker 10: weeks on going to be a couple of weeks. So

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Speaker 10: nah and has media ligaments. Fine, should be right with Testil.

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Speaker 10: He's going to play. Paddy plainly does not want to

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Speaker 10: not be involved. Ye possibly the only Blue success in

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Speaker 10: many many years. He wants to be there. So I

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Speaker 10: don't see Scott Robinson, the Orblack's coach who pulled the

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Speaker 10: It's great for Patrick. I wouldn't say it definitely means

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Speaker 10: the Blues are going to win. There's so much going

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Speaker 3: Look at this Hither. You're right, I remember you saying

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Speaker 3: For goodness sake, let's stop thinking about all the damn

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Speaker 3: Now got the old justin Timberlake mug shot. Hey did

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Speaker 3: Headlines are next.

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Speaker 2: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

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Speaker 3: In so high can conger right? Varrysopa is going to

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Speaker 3: Quarter past five. Heather Victor's working on my street. It's

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Speaker 3: red tape. How crazy red tape in this country. Christopher Luxen,

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Speaker 14: Kim Jolan could run a pretty tough deal with Putin,

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Speaker 3: And finally, Florida woman has called the cops on herself

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Speaker 15: Because I'm trying to steal a car that's not legally mine,

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business Dan.

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Speaker 3: Mitchinson US correspondents with US now Hey Dan Hey, Heather.

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Speaker 3: On a scale of one to ten, how tough was

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Speaker 16: spoken directly, he said, to any of the whistleblowers who

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Speaker 16: have alleged to have taken shortcuts and jeopardize the safety.

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Speaker 16: But I you know, the big takeaway that I got

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Speaker 16: from this was the knowledge that the company had retaliated

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Speaker 16: against employees who have raised safety concerns, and you know,

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Speaker 16: many of the families who showed up at this hearing said, hey, there's.

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Speaker 2: Got to be some kind of criminal prosecution.

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Speaker 16: They say, the executives have been held accountable, and like

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Speaker 16: you just heard their outraged at Calhoun's salary, which is

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Speaker 16: almost thirty three million dollars.

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Speaker 3: A ye, yeah. And so did he outline exactly what

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Speaker 3: kind of action they were taking against whistleblowers?

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Speaker 16: Not exactly. I think he kind of talked his way

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Speaker 16: around that a little bit, but he has you know,

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Speaker 16: said that, okay, we did offer this kind of retaliation

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Speaker 16: and that could be a number of things, from you know,

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Speaker 16: a demotion in your position to being let go when

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Speaker 16: they did a number round of cutoffs during the pandemic.

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Speaker 16: You know how these things work. I mean, there's always

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Speaker 16: a way around it without it actually saying well we're

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Speaker 16: retaliating against Yah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough. How did the apology go down?

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Speaker 16: I don't think anybody, I think they took it at

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Speaker 16: face value. I think most of the people that you know,

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Speaker 16: thought it was just him, you know, saying what he

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Speaker 16: had to say, and you know, nothing's going to be

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Speaker 16: taken away from him. I mean, it's not like the

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Speaker 16: board or Boeing is going to cut his salary by

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Speaker 16: any means. But you know, there are changes at the

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Speaker 16: at the top, and I think there will be more

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Speaker 16: investigations into this. And not to mention, a lot of

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Speaker 16: people are concerned, especially going into summer over here, about

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Speaker 16: flying some of these aircraft.

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Speaker 3: Jan is justin Timberlake having a hard time or something.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on with him.

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Speaker 16: I mean, he was arrested early this morning in sag Harbor,

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Speaker 16: New York for allegedly driving while intoxicated, and then a

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Speaker 16: couple of hours later he made his first court appearance

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Speaker 16: and he's he's been arraigned on one count of driving

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Speaker 16: while under the influence, and he was released without bail.

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Speaker 16: I mean, you know, there's no big deal about that.

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Speaker 16: Everybody knows who he is and where he's going and whatever.

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Speaker 16: And according to the you know, a statement that the

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Speaker 16: Hollywood Reporter got, I guess there was an officer that

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Speaker 16: saw him failing to stop at a posted stops sign

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Speaker 16: and then he couldn't stay in his lane and so

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Speaker 16: they pulled him over. And you know, oh, it's justin Timberlake,

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Speaker 16: and he had bloodshot eyes and he couldn't speak, and

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Speaker 16: he was slurred, and he felt all the sobriety tests.

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Speaker 16: So he was cuffed and taken in by police, and

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Speaker 16: he'll have another court appearance coming up on the I

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Speaker 16: think the twenty.

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Speaker 2: Sixth of July.

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Speaker 3: Apart from remember that, there was that that prisoner who

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Speaker 3: became a model after he was released because he was

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Speaker 3: such a hot. Apart from him, this is the hottest

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Speaker 3: nug shot yet, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't bad.

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Speaker 16: I mean, I guess you could say it was pred

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Speaker 16: forgot about the guy you just mentioned about until you

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Speaker 16: said it.

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Speaker 3: I've got it filed in my head. Oh, it wasn't bad, Dan,

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Speaker 3: Who was better? How was your much?

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Speaker 17: One of the two?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 16: Gosh, you know if the guy didn't smile that the

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Speaker 16: first one, he was okay, there was something I can't

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Speaker 16: remember if he was missing some teeth or not when

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Speaker 16: he smiled, or what it was about him.

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Speaker 3: It was kind of strange, but you know, fair enough. Hey,

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Speaker 3: so what's going on in Wyoming? Are they gonna They're

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Speaker 3: not seriously gonna lict an ai Bot as the mayor?

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Speaker 2: Are they Okay?

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Speaker 16: There's there's I mean, the guy that's kind of saying

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Speaker 16: this is that maybe this is kind of a stunt,

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Speaker 16: But the question is can a bot powered by artificial intelligence?

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Speaker 16: We're on a city. So this guy named Victor Miller

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Speaker 16: says he thinks so. So he filed paperwork for him

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Speaker 16: in his customized chat bot named Virtual Virtual Integrated Citizen,

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Speaker 16: which is VIC to run from air of Cheyenne, Wyoming.

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Speaker 16: So he filed out all the paperwork, and he says

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Speaker 16: he's going to serve as sort of an avatar for

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Speaker 16: the BOST so he'll do the ribbon cutting stuff. Bot's

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Speaker 16: going to handle all the decision making if he wins

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Speaker 16: and advances to the November election. But there's a speed

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Speaker 16: bump in this because the Secretary of State of Wyoming

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Speaker 16: says this is not legally. He says, it is very

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Speaker 16: clear that we have a law that AI is not

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Speaker 16: eligible as a candidate in any office. But the guy

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Speaker 16: that's trying this is saying, you know what, this bought

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Speaker 16: could be impartial. He could make somewhat rationalisms, but then

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Speaker 16: you have others that say, you know what, data alone

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Speaker 16: doesn't result in better decision making, especially if you don't

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Speaker 16: have real life experience or common sense, which is kind

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Speaker 16: of ironic when you their common sense and politicians, but

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Speaker 16: you get what he's seeing.

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Speaker 3: Dan, thank you very much appreciated, mate, Look after yourself.

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Speaker 3: Talk to you on Friday. That's Dan Mitche's and US

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Speaker 3: correspondent Heather. If that woman that reported herself was in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, she would have started out with a sentence

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Speaker 3: of home d and then would have had been would

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Speaker 3: have been discounted down to nothing and then discounted down

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Speaker 3: even further to the point that the dealership would have

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Speaker 3: had to give her the car. Thank you, Nick. Sixteen

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Speaker 3: away from five.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get payments.

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Speaker 3: Certainty very sore, Senior political correspondence with US. Now, Hey Barry,

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Speaker 3: good afternoon, Heather. What do you make of Chris Luxe?

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Speaker 3: And see list of comments.

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Speaker 18: I'll tell you what now he'll be wishing he never

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Speaker 18: made them, because look, this is to me an example

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Speaker 18: of an apprentice Prime minister. You don't look at former

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Speaker 18: trade missions and say that you know they are c

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Speaker 18: list because you're insulting the people went on them, and

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Speaker 18: you may be praising the one he's got with them

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Speaker 18: at the.

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Speaker 3: Moment, you're insulting your own voters.

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Speaker 18: Ah, well, ind you are. And look, I've got to

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Speaker 18: say that he was in a tight spot and he

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Speaker 18: had to justify what he thinks are good trades people.

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Speaker 18: But look, I went on many trade missions over the

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Speaker 18: years that I was working out of Parliament, went on

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Speaker 18: all of Jaina Durn's trade missions, and I used to

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Speaker 18: sit in the seat look as scarce at the people

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Speaker 18: that were on them, thinking what are you doing here?

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Speaker 18: What they were doing there and what some on his

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Speaker 18: trip will be no doubt doing there as well, is

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Speaker 18: that they get on a plane with the Prime Minister

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Speaker 18: and are able to get his ear and socialize with him.

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Speaker 18: And I've got to say, looking at Jasinda Durn's trade missions,

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Speaker 18: there were many in that category signing very little business.

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Speaker 18: This one, you've got to say to Japan has signed

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Speaker 18: significant business, but it's been overshadowed by a broken down

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Speaker 18: plane and his se list of comments. So he'll reflecting

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Speaker 18: on that now as they board the plane to come

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Speaker 18: home tonight. Before he left though, he's meeting with the

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Speaker 18: Japanese Prime minister. I think as we speak, but Luxon

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Speaker 18: now can sides he could have expressed himself in a

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Speaker 18: better way.

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Speaker 19: I could maybe could have expressed it in a different

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Speaker 19: or better way. But what I'm saying to you very

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Speaker 19: clearly is that when we come to these delegations, I

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Speaker 19: am putting huge effort into it to make sure that

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Speaker 19: I've got the business delegation right, We've got the media

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Speaker 19: delegation right, and we've actually got the political delegation and

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Speaker 19: the political engagement right. I'm really proud of actually what

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Speaker 19: we delivered in Southeast Asia.

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Speaker 2: On that trip.

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Speaker 19: I'm very proud of what we've delivered in this engagement

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Speaker 19: with Japan, which is an important relationship. And so when

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Speaker 19: I look at this delegation that we have been able

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Speaker 19: to form, we have New Zealand's leading cheers and CEOs here.

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Speaker 19: We have a huge number of them, the biggest number

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Speaker 19: that we've ever brought to Japan before. And we actually

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Speaker 19: are getting the business done exactly as I wanted us

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Speaker 19: to be able to do.

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Speaker 18: Okay, there was no questions, please, That was from a

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Speaker 18: former press secretary of John Keyes. No more questions, but

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Speaker 18: you know he was in the tight spot. And I've

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Speaker 18: got to say much of that stand up from journalists

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Speaker 18: were more worried about one in particular, about not being

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Speaker 18: able to ask questions of the Chinese premiere when he

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Speaker 18: was here last week. Now, this was put to Laxon

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Speaker 18: in Japan. For goodness sake, don't they come up now? Well,

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Speaker 18: because apparently she was pushed to one side by officials.

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Speaker 3: Now the one in Australia.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, no, no, this is traveling with John Key on

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Speaker 18: this particular trade mission. I was sorry John Key Chris

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Speaker 18: Laxon because she had been pushed around. He said, Layer

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Speaker 18: can play it. I'm totally unaware of that. Of course

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Speaker 18: he would be as well. But the media rather than

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Speaker 18: worrying about themselves, and he said he's got the right

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Speaker 18: mix of the media. Well, in the end, it's the

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Speaker 18: media that want to go on them and he accepts

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Speaker 18: whoever comes up, but for them to complain about it.

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Speaker 18: Every time I was told we weren't allowed to ask

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Speaker 18: a question of a visiting dignitary. Of course, course you'd

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Speaker 18: hear the raspy voice from behind yelling.

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Speaker 3: Out a question. You just disobey the rules.

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Speaker 18: Of course, you disobey the rules. It's a press conference.

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Speaker 18: And I remember one asking him this is why he's

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Speaker 18: no doubt called sleepy Joe. When Joe Biden was here

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Speaker 18: the final final question at the press conference, and we

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Speaker 18: were told we weren't allowed to ask questions of the

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Speaker 18: the Vice President of the United States. I yelled out

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Speaker 18: a question and Joe Biden walked down from the podium,

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Speaker 18: came up and said, I can't hear what did you

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Speaker 18: say the microphone? I was back up on the podium.

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Speaker 3: That breaking the rules. That's why I'm just Sinder famously

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Speaker 3: talks about how much she loved you when when she

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Speaker 3: was the Prime minister. What do we do about the

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Speaker 3: MPs right, because there is this call to allow the

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Speaker 3: security guards of Parliament good.

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Speaker 12: Arrest and so on.

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Speaker 18: Well, there's not a great problem at Parliament. Let's face it.

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Speaker 18: You know, there's been the odd breach of security there,

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Speaker 18: but not a lot. I mean, it used to be

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Speaker 18: we used to call them Dad's Army security at Parliament.

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Speaker 18: Now they're much younger and they're probably much fitter. But

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Speaker 18: it's not over to the speaker to say you can

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Speaker 18: now have the ability to arrest and detain people. That's

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Speaker 18: got to be through an Act of Parliament and the

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Speaker 18: police are the only people. Or I guess you can

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Speaker 18: do a citizen's arrest.

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Speaker 3: Give it a go.

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Speaker 18: See how you get on. But no, I don't think

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Speaker 18: that'll happen. But I think you know, the biggest risk

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Speaker 18: we saw at Parliament. You may remember it in twenty

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Speaker 18: and seventeen mid twenty and seventeen a cop left a

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Speaker 18: loaded gun on a bathroom at Parliament. He kept his

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Speaker 18: job and no charges were late following an investigation. So

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Speaker 18: that would have been a danger. But that is the police.

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Speaker 18: So Jerry wants the DPS, which is there to look

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Speaker 18: after the Prime Minister and ministers that feel they need it.

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Speaker 18: The biggest problem, I guess is out in the electorates.

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Speaker 18: But I heard Jenny Anderson on Mike Hoskins this morning

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Speaker 18: saying that, look, they have these little button they can

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Speaker 18: carry around. One press of the button and the cops

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Speaker 18: are alerted. Well it seems pretty.

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Speaker 3: Good to me, but Barry, to be fair, somebody comes

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Speaker 3: in with a weapon, you have to press the button

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Speaker 3: and wait for the cops. That's a while.

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Speaker 18: Well, yeah, I guess it is, but I suppose you know,

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Speaker 18: you go, well, it hasn't happened, and I guess they're vulnerable,

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Speaker 18: But then aren't we all vulnerable and all sick?

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Speaker 3: Key we attitude right, appreciate it very so for senior

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Speaker 2: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking.

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Speaker 20: Breakfast this speaking, Jerry Browne wants to do security for

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Speaker 20: politicians when they're out in the community. Is also considering

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Speaker 20: giving parliament security guards the power to arrest and detain

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Speaker 20: Political commentator Peter Duns with us on this.

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Speaker 7: Gear is right and it's been a long standing issue

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Speaker 7: at great risk. So I think you've got to draw

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Speaker 7: a line between protecting their privacy but also protecting the

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Speaker 7: publish right to have access to it.

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Speaker 20: We would be one of the most free wheeling parliaments

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Speaker 20: in the world in terms of security, wouldn't we.

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Speaker 7: I think we are and means that's a good thing,

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Speaker 7: or do I want to compromise that. On the other hand,

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Speaker 7: we've got to recognize that we're in an environment where

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Speaker 7: sometimes those things can be a bit of a luxury.

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Speaker 20: Back tomorrow at six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 20: Maybe's Real Estate Newstalk zb.

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Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty million dollar business. He reckons seventy

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Speaker 3: five of them were tiny. Seventy five percent of them

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Speaker 3: and you know and then Castle aspersions. I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to cast any aspersions because these people are listeners to

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Speaker 3: the show. Love every one of these businesses, but you

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Speaker 3: decide for yourself if you've heard of them before. These

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Speaker 3: love my HR. They advertise with the show. They're great.

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Speaker 3: Heard of them many many times, Chasy's love them. They're

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Speaker 3: Heard of them, Mint Innovation, Clean Tech, tourism industry out here,

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Speaker 3: or heard of them business events industry out here or

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Speaker 3: Cider are a listers. Ants will take that gift and

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Speaker 3: pioneer capital. There you go, not casting any aspersions. You

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Speaker 3: just decided for yourself. Okay, right, So we're going to

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Speaker 3: talk about the cricket next Scott Wenning. By the way,

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Speaker 3: just to remind you, that's because Laura is looking at

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Speaker 3: me and she told me not to and she's looking

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Speaker 3: at me right now like shut up, So I will.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about the cricket next, and then we're

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Speaker 3: going to talk about the hospital.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: get the answers by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Heather dupless Ellen drive with one New Zealand Let's get

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Speaker 1: connected and news talks.

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Speaker 3: Said be but cricket us Today, Kane Williamson is stepping

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Speaker 3: down as the All Black as the black Caps captain. Rather,

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Speaker 3: he's also turned down a central contract with New Zealand Cricket.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be switching to a casual contract so

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Speaker 3: that he can play in overseas T twenty leagues over

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Speaker 3: the next year whilst still being available for black Caps selection.

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Speaker 3: Scott weiningc is New Zealand Cricket CEO. Hey, Scott, Hi,

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Speaker 3: did you see this coming?

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Speaker 6: We've been talking with Caine for a while, so it

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Speaker 6: didn't come as a surprise.

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Speaker 3: No, how long have you been talking to him about

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Speaker 3: it for.

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Speaker 6: About a month? Probably?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What about the Lockey Ferguson decision? Did you see that coming?

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Speaker 9: Again?

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Speaker 6: You know when players sort of come towards the end

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Speaker 6: of their careers, you know, we know that they're going

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Speaker 6: to be looking at other opportunities. So I wasn't aware

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Speaker 6: Lockie was going to turn down a contract. But again

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Speaker 6: it didn't really come as much of his surprise.

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Speaker 3: He's not really at the end of his career.

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Speaker 2: Is he.

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Speaker 6: Well, he's been well, he's sort of, you know, mid thirties,

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Speaker 6: has been playing for New Zealand for well over ten

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Speaker 6: years and as a pace bowler, you know, you're you're

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Speaker 6: probably he's probably in the latter years, so to speak.

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Speaker 6: I hope Locke's not going to be offended by me

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Speaker 6: saying that, obviously, but you know, but look, there's still

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Speaker 6: every opportunity that Locke will play again for New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was going to ask you that because you

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Speaker 3: have said in the press release that you committed to

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Speaker 3: pick and Kine for the squad, but are you also

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Speaker 3: committed to picking Lockee.

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Speaker 6: So Cain will be on a casual playing agreement and

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Speaker 6: we've talked to him about the matches that he's available for,

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Speaker 6: so he's, as it turns out, he's essentially available for

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Speaker 6: the bulk of the international cricket that we've got coming

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Speaker 6: up this season. We haven't had a specific conversation with

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Speaker 6: Lockeye about what cricket he is available for.

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 6: He just hasn't raised that with us, And to be fair,

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Speaker 6: we wouldn't actually be talking about this now until the

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Speaker 6: contracts come out. But one of your fellow journalists managed

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Speaker 6: to get a scoop. So we've had we've had to

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Speaker 6: come out now and that WI always explains what's going

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Speaker 6: on now.

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Speaker 3: This is the future, isn't it, Scott? I mean, our

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Speaker 3: best players are going to put the overseas money ahead

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Speaker 3: of the black shirt into the future, aren't they.

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Speaker 9: I don't think so.

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Speaker 6: Actually no, I think you know, the black Caps, certainly

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Speaker 6: the bulk of them still prioritize playing for New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: But how can you say that they didn't even prioritize

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Speaker 3: playing for New Zealand and the T twenty World Cup

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Speaker 3: the other day?

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Speaker 9: Of course they did.

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Speaker 3: They didn't they do any warm up games?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 6: Sorry I missed that.

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Speaker 3: Why didn't they do any warm up games?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 6: Well, look there was a confluence of issues around getting

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Speaker 6: the team over there around the end of the I

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Speaker 6: p L.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that was that.

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Speaker 6: That was nothing to do with their commitment to playing

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Speaker 6: for New Zealand. It was just unfortunate that we couldn't

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Speaker 6: actually get in the practice practice games and before the

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Speaker 6: tournament started.

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Speaker 3: Do you think do we need to maybe get the

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Speaker 3: cricket bosses to do some sort of delineation between what

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Speaker 3: is you know this. This part of the calendar is

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Speaker 3: for playing for your national squad and this part of

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Speaker 3: the calendar is for making your big bucks. Would that help?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's certainly would and that that's where I'd like

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Speaker 6: to see us to go. You know, I think it's

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Speaker 6: it's really important for the future of cricket that we

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Speaker 6: get some windows agreed which prioritize international cricket with domestic

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Speaker 6: cricket playing around international cricket.

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Speaker 3: Okay, might be the solution. Hey, Scott, thank you very much,

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Speaker 3: appreciate it, Scott. When in New Zealand Cricket CEO.

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Speaker 2: Heller do for see Allen.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember the new North Shore Hospital building in Auckland,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty beds building has been all ready

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Speaker 3: to go for ages but he's been sitting there, just

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Speaker 3: lights on but empty. Well, it's now be confirmed that

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Speaker 3: it is going to partially open in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: But get this, no extra patients will be treated. And

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Speaker 3: that's because in order to open this hospital, theaters an

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Speaker 3: award in the old hospital have to shut. Sarah Dalton

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Speaker 3: from the Association of Salary Medical Specialists with us, Hey Sarah, good,

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Speaker 3: how are you. I'm very well, thank you. This is

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Speaker 3: just shuffling deck chairs, isn't it.

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Speaker 21: It absolutely is shuffling dick chairs.

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Speaker 3: Yep, what's the problem here? Can they just not hire

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Speaker 3: any more staff?

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Speaker 21: So there is a bit of a recruitment freeze in

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Speaker 21: place at the moment. They'll say it's not a freeze,

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Speaker 21: but it's as close as you can get without seeing ice.

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Speaker 21: So yeah, recruitment has really slowed down. Money is very tight.

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Speaker 21: They haven't managed to meet their target to meet their

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Speaker 21: end budget for the year and it's paying me attention

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Speaker 21: to the health budget announcement in recent weeks. There is

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Speaker 21: no more money for health now.

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Speaker 3: I thought last week when we spoke to Health New

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Speaker 3: Zealand they said that the freeze would be lifted this week.

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Speaker 3: Is that what we're expecting?

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Speaker 21: So what seems to be happening is that all of

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Speaker 21: the jobs had to go up to the National Director

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Speaker 21: of Hospital and Specialist Services for approval. Now that is

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Speaker 21: being shifted to regional committees, but all of the jobs

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Speaker 21: are still having to go to those committees for approval.

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Speaker 21: So best case scenario is clinical roles will still be

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Speaker 21: approved for recruitment, but it's going to take even longer.

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Speaker 9: Than it already.

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Speaker 21: And of course the other existing issue is that we've

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Speaker 21: got lots of services who've had jobs being a ties

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Speaker 21: for a while and they're not being filled. People aren't coming,

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Speaker 21: they don't want them.

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Speaker 3: How long do you think before we're able to start

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Speaker 3: getting enough staff to actually make this building like increase

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Speaker 3: how much how many surgeries.

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Speaker 2: We can do.

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Speaker 21: I'm really concerned about how long it might be. We've

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Speaker 21: just been having a look at some of the indicators

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Speaker 21: or planned care, and so it'll be mainly elective services

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Speaker 21: that were going on in that building as far as

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Speaker 21: I'm aware. And in the last year, the time it

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Speaker 21: takes so for patients who've been given a commitment to

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Speaker 21: treatment but are waiting longer than four months, that's gone

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Speaker 21: up by twenty five percent just in the last year.

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Speaker 21: That's thirty four thousand people who've been told you're going

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Speaker 21: to get your procedure but they haven't got it within

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Speaker 21: the four months. And the number of people waiting for

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Speaker 21: fair specialist appointments in the last year has gone up

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Speaker 21: by thirty four percent. That's nearly seventy thousand people not

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Speaker 21: being seen within that four month window. So I can't

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Speaker 21: see it being sixty any times soon. I went and

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Speaker 21: listened to the Select Committee discussion about the health estemits

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Speaker 21: the other day and it's pretty remustling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does sound like it. Sarah, Thank you very

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Speaker 3: much appreciated that, Sarah Dalton Association of Salaried Medical Specialists,

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Speaker 3: Heather du Heather, you said you'd name some of those

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Speaker 3: school principles who are taking the piss on those overseas

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Speaker 3: professional development holidays. You mentioned eighty of them. Okay, so

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Speaker 3: yesterday we didn't name it because we wanted to check

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Speaker 3: it out. And good thing we did that because somebody

873
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 3: texted and said it was the principle of a school

874
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: in white Tatter, So we called the principle of the

875
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 3: school in white Tetter today. Principal's not there, principles in Wellington.

876
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: We're like Wellington, is he?

877
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: So?

878
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 3: No, the principle is in Wellington. No, it's actually is

879
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: this truth? Not in not in Fiji, not at the Hilton.

880
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: As it turns out, at all, the principal got one

881
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: of those flyers to go to the Fiji Hilton and

882
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: has sent us the flyer and has sent it, has

883
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 3: pointed out the but that he particularly so he isn't it.

884
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: I'm not misgendering this person. So he as Laura spoke

885
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: to him, and he's pointed out the thing that he

886
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 3: enjoyed the most in the flyer, which is the bit

887
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 3: where it's School of Transformation tells them all the cool

888
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: things they're going to do. Point number two, they're going

889
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 3: to talk about Ranga terra hoe order enhance your knowledge

890
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: in the areas of physical and mental health, stress management,

891
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: work life balance, mindfulness, and high performance school leadership. Note Worthy,

892
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 3: it says, I am quoting you verbatim. Note worthy. Conference

893
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 3: workshops take place each morning only. Hey what about that

894
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: each morning only? So what you could do your cocktails

895
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 3: with your husband or your wife in the afternoon. How

896
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: nice and have your little jolly. Anyway, that guy has

897
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 3: given us another name, so we're going to track down

898
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: that person tomorrow, so there might be another installment quarter past.

899
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Speaker 2: Ever, do for Celan Heather?

917
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 3: Who is this guy trying a kit? Of course they're

918
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 3: prioritizing the dollars above the country, Craig, of course they are.

919
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 3: If Australia can have a warm up match before the

920
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: T twenty World Cup and we can't. I think you

921
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: know where the priorities lie. Anyway, Let's tell let's deal

922
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: with money. It is our priorities as well. Right nineteen

923
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: past five, the computer chip company in Vidia has officially

924
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: become the world's most valuable company. Shares climb three and

925
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 3: a half percent overnight, taking its market capitalization to get

926
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: this three point three five trillion US dollars, which means

927
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: it's overtaken both Apple and Microsoft. Leighton Roberts is the

928
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: co founder of Shares.

929
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 9: He's and with us.

930
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: Now, hey, Layson, here, this is because of AI, isn't

931
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 3: it It is?

932
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's absolutely what it's about.

933
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: I mean, given that we're only at the start of AI,

934
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: you could argue the potential for this company must be big,

935
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: mustn't it.

936
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 17: That's definitely what's been priced at the moment. But what's

937
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 17: particularly interesting is the numbers seem to be reflecting the

938
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 17: price appreciation that we're seeing. So yeah, we'll be superintendents

939
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 17: paid out over the next couple of years.

940
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 3: Are you worried though about you know, like when you

941
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: get a big growth in a company like this, you

942
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 3: have to just whow and just check it out. Are

943
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: you worried about how quickly it's gone out because it's

944
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: gone from one one trillion to two trillion in just

945
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: nine months.

946
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 17: Look, I've just seen adoption of a technology like what's

947
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 17: happened with AI as quickly as it has and also

948
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 17: for it returns value to businesses as quickly as it has.

949
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 17: So it's very hard to judge, and that's sort of

950
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 17: a people to do individually. But from where I'm sitting,

951
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 17: it's potentially a lot of excitements still to come.

952
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: If you were in charge of the super fund right now,

953
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: they're stake and it has gone from just shy of

954
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: a billion to one point seventy five billion, would you say, sell, sell,

955
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: sell sell while you're high.

956
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 17: I'm pretty happy I don't have that pressure to come

957
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 17: this and I think that more informant for that posision.

958
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: Fair enough, Layton, thank you very much, appreciated, Layton Roberts

959
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: Charesy's co founder. It sounds like the Auckland trains are

960
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: back up and running again. I don't know if you're

961
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 3: aware of the I mean, who even catches Auckland trays,

962
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 3: who even catches public transport in Auckland anymore? Because surely

963
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: by now the whole thing has become so unreliable you're

964
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 3: just like, never mind, I'll just do I'll just do

965
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 3: a green party, get in my car. All the trains

966
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 3: completely stop today because of a track fault near Middle More.

967
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: Apparently it was a points failure. Whatever the hell that means.

968
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 3: I don't even care anymore what it means. It just

969
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 3: means it's broken. And I'm like the heat points failure

970
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 3: all the same stuff. Even though the trains are now

971
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: running and have been running since about two o'clock this afternoon,

972
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: they will still have a delays and cancelations throughout the evening,

973
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 3: and they will have replacement buses operating, of course. And

974
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: I just will remind you that Auckland Transport's boss, Dean Kimpton,

975
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 3: I think, maybe as recently as last week said public service,

976
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: public transport rocks. It works really well ninety nine percent

977
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: of the time. No, it doesn't. Five to twenty one.

978
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: Heather Dupasicy Allen cutting through the noise to get the facts.

979
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: It's Heather duper Cy Allen drive with One New Zealand

980
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: let's get connected and news talk.

981
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 2: As they'd be.

982
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 3: Heather, I think you need to jump on a plane

983
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 3: to Fiji to do some door stopping.

984
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 5: Do you know what?

985
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: I think that's a I think I need to go

986
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 3: to the boss and say we can't track down any

987
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 3: of these principles I'm going to have to go to

988
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: Fiji to get the whole lot of them all at once,

989
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: and that's very important. And then I said, but I

990
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: don't think I'll stay at the Hilton. If that's okay,

991
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: I'll just stan at the Radison next door. I'll just

992
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: go to the Hilton or the Sofa Tower, whatever, the

993
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: one that just had the referve, I'll go stay there.

994
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: Five twenty four the old Greens, ay, let's talk about

995
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: the Greens busted asking around to borrow car parks and

996
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 3: Wellington after being the very people who took those car parks.

997
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 3: So let me tell you a little bit about this

998
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: car park saga in Newtown, Wellington. So you just can

999
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: completely understand how much the Greens need to suffer for

1000
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: this hypocrisy. So what happened is that two Green MPs,

1001
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: Tamotha Pool and Julian Jenta are really big fangirls of

1002
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 3: cycleways in general, but in particular the new cycle way

1003
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: down Adelaide Road in Newtown. Now, the effect of this

1004
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 3: cycle way is that building the cycle way has meant

1005
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: the loss of one hundred and fifty on street car parks.

1006
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: That's a lot for a suburb. Right for just one

1007
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: streetch It was bitterly opposed by local businesses. They were

1008
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 3: really worried that they would lose foot traffic as Rosa

1009
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 3: as a result of it, But Julian said to them, none, under,

1010
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 3: you don't need to worry. We've seen around the world

1011
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: the exact same fear and attitude from retailers. In truth,

1012
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: it tends to increase foot traffic, she said to them.

1013
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: It was also bitterly opposed by the staff at the

1014
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 3: hospital just up the road, who said, where are they

1015
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: going to park now? Because a whole bunch of them

1016
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 3: driving from far away suburbs, and they work weird shifts

1017
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: as nurses and stuff like that, and they're not on

1018
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 3: big money so they can't afford expensive car parking, and

1019
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: they were relying on these on street car parks. What

1020
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: are they going to do now. The loss of the

1021
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: car parking actually did hurt businesses. The Greengrosser's sales are

1022
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 3: down fifty percent. Stack's Furniture had to relocate its shop

1023
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 3: up the road to be able to get closer to parking.

1024
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: So imagine the surprise of Stack's Furniture when the Green

1025
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: staffers who work at the shared Electorate office of Julie

1026
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: and Jenter and Tamotha Paul down the road turned up

1027
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 3: asking to borrow car parks because they were going to

1028
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: have a big event on a Friday night and they

1029
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: needed it for their guests. Imagine the surprise of these

1030
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 3: businesses that suddenly, oh, we've got some car Oh you

1031
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 3: want to use our car parks. So you can understand

1032
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: why both Stacks and Repco next door said no, you

1033
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 3: can't have our car parks. There's even more to this story,

1034
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 3: I camp so I was told weeks ago that the

1035
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: Electorate office was actually trying to sort out car parks

1036
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: already weeks ago. Apparently they wanted two car parks, which

1037
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 3: are around the corner on King Street. They wanted them

1038
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: to designated short term car parks rather than long term

1039
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 3: car parks, so that the car parks wouldn't just be

1040
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 3: filled by somebody who was there all day, but could

1041
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 3: kind of be ret rotated frequently and freed up for

1042
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 3: you know, regularly for their office visitors. Remember and by

1043
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 3: the way that's happened, Remember one of the MP's in

1044
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,959
Speaker 3: that office, Tamatha Paul, is the very one who wants

1045
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 3: Wellington to be a car free city by next year.

1046
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: And what I think is interesting about this is how

1047
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: much trouble the cycle way is causing the Greens, because remember,

1048
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: this cycle way is the very reason that that fight

1049
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: between Julie and Jenta and the florist happened. This is

1050
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 3: what they were arguing about. And what I also think

1051
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: is interesting is how hostile the businesses in Wellington are

1052
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: to the Greens now, because well, how about hypocrisy? That

1053
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 3: would make me pretty hostile to classic Greens the way

1054
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: they want a revolution as long as they don't have

1055
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: to do the mucky to get it together.

1056
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 2: Do for ce Ellen's box ashore.

1057
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, we're going to speak to the

1058
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 3: Green grosser. She's going to be with us in maybe

1059
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 3: ten minutes or so. And yep. So I asked the

1060
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 3: Greens was it true that you asked for the car

1061
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 3: parks around the corner to be designated short term. They

1062
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: sent me a statement there have been no formal discussions

1063
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 3: with the council in regards to using parking on King Street. No,

1064
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 3: there were no formal discussions. I know there were no

1065
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 3: formal discussions and it's not what I asked you anyway.

1066
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 3: I think the Greengrosser has also heard the details. She's

1067
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 3: going to be with us shortly. As I say, just

1068
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 3: after the headlines and boxer shorts. There is a trend

1069
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 3: at the moment for boxer shorts to be worn as

1070
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 3: short shorts, like as in your outer wear shorts. This

1071
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: is taking people by surprise. I'm actually going to tell

1072
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: you why you do not need to be alarmed by

1073
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 3: this and why actually this could be the solution to

1074
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 3: all of the uncomfortable gene short you've been wearing forever.

1075
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 3: You don't need to wear that anymore. You should be

1076
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 3: a boxer shorts, but the specific kind. So bear with

1077
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 3: me and I'll explain Headline's next.

1078
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: Hard questions.

1079
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: Strong opinion Heather due for see Ellen drive with one

1080
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: New Zealand let's get connected and used talk and said.

1081
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 13: Be again.

1082
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 2: Listen.

1083
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: As we mentioned earlier in the show, Ladd flew into

1084
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 3: North Korea. The hot spot that is. I don't know

1085
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 3: about you, but like that's one place I was like,

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Speaker 3: that's where I want to go. That's a banging place

1087
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Speaker 3: I want to go to. I can't wait to have

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Speaker 3: them see the nightlife, and North Korea can't wait to

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Speaker 3: be there. And so he's obviously the same. He flew

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Speaker 3: in and it probably reminded him of the old days

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Speaker 3: of the USSR. You know, got met by Kim at

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Speaker 3: the airport because Kim doesn't get a lot of visitors nowadays.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you know that, so he's got

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Speaker 3: a lot of free time. So he turned up at

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Speaker 3: the airport to meet with Ladd and they're going to

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Speaker 3: have a nice little court it or a little time together.

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Speaker 3: But there are serious implications from these two absolute losers

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Speaker 3: meeting with each other, and so we're going to talk

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Speaker 3: to Robert Patman about it. It's gonna be about six o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Give us the lowdown on that. We've got standing by

1101
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Speaker 3: for the huddle, Jack Tamee and the inimitable Paddy Gower.

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Speaker 3: They'll be with us shortly right now, it's twenty three

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Speaker 3: away from six.

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Speaker 2: Heather doul Yes, I ever told you before.

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Speaker 3: The Greens have been busted asking to use the private

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Speaker 3: car parks of some Wellington retailers for a party in Wellington,

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Speaker 3: which is so hypocritical because they were the ones who

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Speaker 3: took the car parking away so they could build one

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Speaker 3: of their favorite little cycle ways in the area. Right

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Speaker 3: Urmila Barner is the chairwoman of the Independent Business and

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Speaker 3: Residential Group. And for the record, not the greengrocer.

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Speaker 2: But the what iurmina, the general grocer, the general.

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Speaker 3: Grosser, because the green grocer is on side with the Greens?

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Speaker 3: Am I right?

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Speaker 13: Mm hmmm?

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Speaker 3: And not you though?

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Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 22: I guess I have a Shakespearean relationship with the cycle lanes.

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Speaker 3: Why do you call it Shakespearean?

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Speaker 20: Well?

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Speaker 22: How much do I love thee? I mean, you know,

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Speaker 22: we've got a spectrum out here which is pretty dire.

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Speaker 22: Businesses are down sixty eighty one hundred percent. They're either moving,

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Speaker 22: closing or heading into liquidation. And that's nothing to do

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Speaker 22: with recession. It's the car park remover And you sort

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Speaker 22: of like, hello.

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Speaker 3: How do you know though, because I mean, like I

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Speaker 3: it's difficult for everybody, right, So how do you know

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Speaker 3: that it's the cycle way doing it well?

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Speaker 22: In new Town we were ahead of the pack. Went

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Speaker 22: in two years ago and businesses were already reporting that

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Speaker 22: dire situation. The Newtown's been that the cycle Aid's been planted,

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Speaker 22: the parks have been removed. It's a ghost town. Like

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Speaker 22: you know, the uber drivers don't like getting into hospital

1136
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Speaker 22: because there's fucking traffic to try and get here, So

1137
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Speaker 22: the meals that are going out to the poor residences

1138
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Speaker 22: that want to eat are cold.

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Speaker 1: What did you think that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? What did you think when you heard that Tamotha

1141
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: Paul and Julian Jeni's staff has been going around asking

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Speaker 3: to use private car parks have affected businesses?

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Speaker 22: What did I think? Well, you know, what do they

1144
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 22: say about hipocrisy? There's no forgiveness for that sort of evil?

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Speaker 14: Is there really quite right?

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Speaker 3: Do you know anything about this situation? Because I had

1147
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Speaker 3: heard that they had asked this office had asked for

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Speaker 3: the council to redesignate a couple of car parks around

1149
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 3: the corner from their office, to make them shorter terms

1150
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Speaker 3: so that their visitors could use them. Did you hear

1151
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 3: about that?

1152
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: Well?

1153
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 22: Rumor has it that during a break at the Regulatory

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00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 22: Process meeting on the eighteenth of April, Jordie Rodgers was

1155
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Speaker 22: speaking to the senior Wellington City Council offices with the

1156
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Speaker 22: current Green Deputy Mayor Lori Foon about parking for the

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Speaker 22: Green MPs on King Street and King Streets the side

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Speaker 22: street of Adelaide Road. So we're all sitting here in

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Speaker 22: Newtown as residents. There's business owners outpatients, hospital workers thinking well,

1160
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 22: hang on, we can't get to work because of you.

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00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 22: We can't get to the hospital because of you. We

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00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 22: can't get to the businesses we like when we want

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Speaker 22: to because of you. So this whole thing is hypocritical

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Speaker 22: and underscored with a golden pen. Ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Was that the eighteenth of April?

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Speaker 22: Was it? Apparently?

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00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:00,479
Speaker 15: So it's the rumor.

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Speaker 22: So I've chased it up with one of the senior counselors,

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Speaker 22: so hopefully we'll get a response shortly.

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Speaker 3: Irmla, thank you very much and best of luck fighting

1171
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 3: this absolutely brain dead situation. That's Irmla Barna, the chairwoman

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Speaker 3: of the Independent Business and Residential Group. I'll just remind

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00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 3: you so the conversation happens between Jordie and Laurie on

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00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: the eighteenth of April at the regulatory meeting. But what

1175
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 3: did the Greens say to me in the statement? There

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00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 3: have been no formal discussions with the council in regards

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Speaker 3: to using parking on King Street. No formal discussions, but

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Speaker 3: the informal ones they work though A nineteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Six the huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty exceptional

1180
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Speaker 1: marketing for every property.

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Speaker 3: By the way, the reason I know that that is

1182
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Speaker 3: true because actually spoke to the person who overWe heard

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Speaker 3: and witnessed the conversation. So there you go with me.

1184
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 3: Now on the huddle we have Paddy Gower of News

1185
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: Hub and Jack Tame, host of Q and A and

1186
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 3: Saturday mornings on News Talks. There be Hello you two.

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Speaker 11: Hello, kay guys, we'll come back to this one.

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Speaker 3: I just want to talk about Lux and though Paddy,

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Speaker 3: what do you make of lux and calling the previous

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Speaker 3: delegation see lists.

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Speaker 23: Well, someone who went on you know about thirty of

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Speaker 23: those traps and was very formally in the Z list,

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00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 23: you know when I was a journalist and we literally

1194
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 23: were in the minivan that was behind the little car

1195
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Speaker 23: that was behind the five cars that eventually got to

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Speaker 23: the front of the metorcade in there. So it's a

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Speaker 23: proud Sea lister. Look, I think good on them. You know,

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Speaker 23: it is about taking it is about taking a listers.

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Speaker 23: And and you know, I've got no problem with the

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Speaker 23: mining that I was a Z lister and you know

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Speaker 23: he's just he's just been he's just been honest. And

1202
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Speaker 23: if there's a few little egos out there cracked because

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Speaker 23: they're on the C list, I say, as a proud

1204
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Speaker 23: Z lister who used to sleep in the back of

1205
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 23: the minivan, get over yourself. But I also just walked

1206
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 23: past Barry Soper on the way and who went on

1207
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Speaker 23: about four hundred and ninety five of them.

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Speaker 3: I think he got one of those little like crew

1209
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 3: club ones for that particular plane. Yeah, that's right.

1210
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Speaker 23: But he was the best because he was in the

1211
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Speaker 23: Z list with the journos, but he acted like he

1212
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Speaker 23: was as and pested.

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Speaker 3: The A list so that they basically let him in. Yeah,

1214
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 3: and I have seen that action. What do you reckon, Jack?

1215
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 11: I'm just reading through some of the potential sea listers

1216
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 11: from the last trip. So if we're to go from

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Speaker 11: the last trip of Chrissipkins, we're talking about sea listers

1218
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 11: including the CEO of the New Zealand, the CEO of

1219
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 11: Auckland Airport, the CEO of Les Mills, the chair of

1220
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Speaker 11: Sea Lord, the chief executive of Where to Workshop, the

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Speaker 11: chair of Fonterra.

1222
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, but what about the rest of

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Speaker 3: the list.

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Speaker 11: Say you're well about Christopher Luxon, but he's got a

1225
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 11: high standards this designation. So it just, I mean, it

1226
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Speaker 11: just seems to me like such an utterly avoidable mini scandal,

1227
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Speaker 11: Like what a what a dumb thing to say, What

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Speaker 11: an incredibly dumb thing to say, especially when you when

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Speaker 11: you when you venerate your relationship with the business community,

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Speaker 11: like and for what gain like a little slight against

1231
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Speaker 11: the previous government. Sure, but it just just seems like

1232
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Speaker 11: a real, a real oversight, and one that I'm sure

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Speaker 11: he disappears in our memories as quick as possible.

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Speaker 23: Yes, yes, I agree, I agree with you, dear Jack.

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Speaker 23: I think though, that he just told the truth. That's

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Speaker 23: what he'd say in the you know, in his office,

1237
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 23: he would have said, I want a listers on my trip.

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Speaker 3: Now here's the thing, though, Patty and I've been I've

1239
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 3: been about this today, right, this is his personality. Even

1240
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 3: before he came into parliament, even sorry into the leadership.

1241
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 3: Somebody in the corporate world said to me, watch out

1242
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 3: for Chris Luckxen's mouth because he runs his mouth off

1243
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: about people. And then Nick Minette, they hear about it

1244
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 3: and they're upset about it. Right, So he is known

1245
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 3: for this. So this is his personality. So does he

1246
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 3: just I mean, if this is the stuff he's going

1247
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 3: to if he's just going to tell the truth, he

1248
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: needs to own it. Doesn't he just so apologize for.

1249
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 23: So what you say in the office to the public,

1250
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:38,479
Speaker 23: just keep going.

1251
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 11: There's no zero upside to slagging off the previous delegation.

1252
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 11: Talk up this delegation as.

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Speaker 9: Much as you like.

1254
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Speaker 11: But I mean, maybe we just the greatest delegation of

1255
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 11: all time. But the zero upside.

1256
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Speaker 3: But maybe we But but this is like asking Trump

1257
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 3: not to be a buffoon, right Like they are what

1258
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 3: they are. And if you if this is what Luckson's like,

1259
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 3: he just needs to lean into it.

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Speaker 11: Authenticity is a rare commodity in politics. I agree with

1261
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 11: that notion, But I don't know Trump when he doesn't

1262
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 11: manages to be funny somehow, And I'm not sure that

1263
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 11: Christopher Luxon has necessarily managed that. I don't think for

1264
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 11: the guy who constantly talks up his business experience and

1265
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 11: his business connections, I just sit the zero upside to

1266
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Speaker 11: being caught out.

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Speaker 3: I feel so bad for comparing the two of them.

1268
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 3: I apologize to Luxeon for comparing him to Trump. What

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Speaker 3: do you think, Patty of Cain Williamson giving up the

1270
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Speaker 3: captaincy to chase the big dollar.

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Speaker 23: Well, it just means that cricket and international sport are

1272
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Speaker 23: changing and money rules. What people have said all the

1273
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 23: way along about about all sports is that money will

1274
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 23: eventually take over, and that's exactly what's happened here. We're

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Speaker 23: sending in other sports like golf, and no doubt we'll

1276
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 23: see it in rugby which is sold which has sold

1277
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Speaker 23: out as well. And this is what's coming. Get used

1278
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Speaker 23: to it.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more, Jack, I want you to take We'll

1280
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 3: get it after the break.

1281
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Speaker 2: Quarter two the huddle with.

1282
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Speaker 1: New Zealand Southby's international realty, unparalleled reach and results.

1283
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Speaker 3: Right, you're back on the huddle, Patty Gower, Jack, Tame Jack.

1284
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Speaker 3: What do you make of the Cane Williamson news.

1285
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Speaker 9: Well, I'm a cricket tragic, which means I'm a Cane

1286
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 9: Williamson tragic. And I think if anyone deserves a big

1287
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 9: pay day in New Zealand cricket, it is that man

1288
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Speaker 9: for everything he has given us over the last few years.

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Speaker 9: Patty's totally right. This is the way that all sport

1290
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Speaker 9: is going.

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Speaker 11: Players are incentivised to chase the big bucks, and increasingly

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Speaker 11: there's maybe not the kind of loyalty to some of

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Speaker 11: the national national teams that there once.

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Speaker 9: Might have been.

1295
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Speaker 11: That being said, for me, it all comes down to

1296
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Speaker 11: Test cricket. So long as we can still have players

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Speaker 11: like Caane Williamson playing Test cricket and playing Test cricket

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Speaker 11: in New Zealand, I'm okay, I don't think you can

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Speaker 11: rely on that.

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Speaker 21: Well, I see the T.

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Speaker 11: Twenties is definitely going to be away, but apparently under

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Speaker 11: this new arrangement he should still be available for the

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Speaker 11: hanging the cricket?

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Speaker 3: Is that Jack? That's very specific to this year because

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Speaker 3: this we've got the English tour and it wraps up

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Speaker 3: by I think it's the fourteenth of December, and the

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Speaker 3: South African Tea twenty things starts like early early January.

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Speaker 3: So that means if he keeps doing that every single year,

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Speaker 3: he's not going to be there for many of the

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Speaker 3: Test games, the Test matches if they're in January.

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Speaker 9: That's exactly right. It totally defends on the schedule.

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Speaker 11: Let that he said he might he might be in

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Speaker 11: a position then to make a choice, do I want

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Speaker 11: to play in the South African Tea twenty competition or

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Speaker 11: play tests, and someone like came Williamson, I reckon, there's

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Speaker 11: still a test purist at heart. So I'm going to

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Speaker 11: cross my fingers and hope that when it comes down

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Speaker 11: to a choice between playing tests for New Zealand and

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Speaker 11: playing T twenties overseas, he's going to choose tests. But yep,

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Speaker 11: this is the way of the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's hoping we're going to be left with We're

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Speaker 3: going to be left with the sea listers.

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Speaker 2: I was going let us say that though we can't.

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Speaker 23: We can't call people's sea list. It's been banned as Yeah,

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Speaker 23: well apparently it's bad, okay, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's good to know. Thank you for clearing

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Speaker 3: that up for us, Paddy Jack. The Greens are hypocrites,

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Speaker 3: are they not?

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Speaker 11: Yes, they are totally And it's pretty funny. I mean,

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Speaker 11: can you I just imagine being imagine being Julianne Genter

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Speaker 11: when the staffer had to come in and say, hey,

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Speaker 11: you know that meeting we were hoping to have, well

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Speaker 11: we were just trying to, you know, use some initiative

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Speaker 11: and get some parks so everyone could get their nice

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Speaker 11: and conveniently and it turned out that we might have

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Speaker 11: upset someone that knew, or someone else in the party

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Speaker 11: might have come across in the past. Of course, of course,

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Speaker 11: the hypocrites, I mean, we are all hypocrites. I don't

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Speaker 11: think this is the.

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Speaker 9: Worst scandal in the world, but yeah, it just goes

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Speaker 9: to show that, Yeah, as great as bike planes are,

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01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 9: sometimes car parks are actually that much more convenience.

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Speaker 23: Well, the Greens are hypocrites, full stop. That's got nothing

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Speaker 23: to do with what's happened here, just in general hypocrites,

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Speaker 23: you know, because I actually came past Juliane's office earlier

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Speaker 23: this week and there was a very very big high

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Speaker 23: it was incredibly high green horse out the back, and

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Speaker 23: they've fallen right off it. They've fallen off their green

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Speaker 23: high horse, and it's just incredibly funny. And if I

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Speaker 23: was Julianne, I'd be staying right away from that cycle way.

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Speaker 3: They can't because they're electorate office is right by the

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Speaker 3: side of the way, and the angry, angry retailers are there.

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Speaker 23: No one, no one can stay away from that cycle

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Speaker 23: way and it's it's actually a tragedy what it's done

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Speaker 23: to the businesses there. And I agree to the business.

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Speaker 23: I agree with the business owner that was on before.

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Speaker 23: But yeah, Julienne should maybe book another nice long holiday

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Speaker 23: on the.

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Speaker 3: Jet stay that femininely Jack. I don't have a problem

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Speaker 3: with these boxer shorts that that people are starting to

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Speaker 3: wear as just like our like normal shorts.

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Speaker 9: Do you have at but I can look at them, Yeah,

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Speaker 9: it's all right.

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Speaker 11: When my international models are wearing them whatever, right, or

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Speaker 11: wearing them on the catwalk, I don't think it's I mean,

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Speaker 11: I'm not going to cast any aspersions when it comes

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Speaker 11: to Paddy's physique. In fact, I know that he's more

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Speaker 11: than happy to take to the streets in skin tight

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Speaker 11: light or the kind.

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Speaker 9: Of guy with a confidence to pull them off.

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Speaker 11: Given the nature of my legs, given my pathetic chicken legs,

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Speaker 11: there is no way on earth you would catch me

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Speaker 11: wearing them.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with them, Paddy, because do

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Speaker 3: you know what they look like? They literally look like

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Speaker 3: Aggasy's tennis shorts from the eighties, like George Michael would

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Speaker 3: have done a wham video in one of them. There's

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Speaker 3: nothing offensive, but they're just cotton shorts.

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Speaker 23: Well, I sort of come from the era where it

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Speaker 23: was fashionable to wear boxer shorts and the rugby shorts.

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Speaker 3: Oh and with the top sticking out, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, which is sort of silky ones, which is a

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Speaker 23: sort of a very random sort of era. So so

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Speaker 23: I'm no one to judge. I'd probably put the Canterbury

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Speaker 23: rugby shorts on over the top of them.

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Speaker 3: Would you. I'm going to go down to cotton On.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to buy a pair for myself and I'm

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Speaker 3: going to wear them in the summer. The ten dollars,

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Speaker 3: it's a bargain. It's great, guys, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. Anyway, that's just a fashion tree.

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Speaker 3: You need to get up on you because that's what

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Speaker 3: we do. Help you out with that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: On the show, Patty Gower, Jack Tamar Huddle This evening

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Speaker 3: seven away from six, on your smart.

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Speaker 2: Speaker, on the iHeart app, and in your car on

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Speaker 2: your drive home.

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Speaker 1: Heather duple s Allen Drive with One New Zealand one

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Speaker 1: Giant Leap for Business News Talk said.

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Speaker 3: Heather, can you please go through just Cinda's delegation list,

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01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 3: because Chris Hipkins at least had half a brain. I

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Speaker 3: did go through Justinda's delegation list. Before I did it,

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Speaker 3: still under instructions not to say anything. I went through it. Okay.

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Speaker 3: This is the delegation that is on this current trip.

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Speaker 3: If you heard Discinder's one, then compare it to this

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01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 3: one asb Air New Zealand, A and z as co

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01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 3: Auckland UNI Services, Uricon, christ Church International Airport, Eastland Group, Fabrum,

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Speaker 3: Fonterra Go forty GNS, Science Japan, New Zealand Business Council,

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Speaker 3: Connor Morrison, NITAHU, Tourism New Zealand Inc. New Zealand, Rugby Commercial,

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01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 3: New Zealand Superfund, pan Pack Forest Products, Rocket Lab sec

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Speaker 3: Sequent Silver Fern Farms, Still in Capital Letters, Tartu a

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Speaker 3: cooperative dairy company, Tarfucki, National Airspace Center, Tourism Holdings Limited,

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Speaker 3: University of Canterbury and Zesbury. I'll leave that one to you.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: How about this, ah, If you want some more good news,

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01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 3: this is good news, but like get a hurry on

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01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 3: New Zealand in order to make this good news work

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Speaker 3: for you. We've just been named as one of the

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Speaker 3: top safe havens for global millionaires. Like a top safe haven, right,

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Speaker 3: there's eight of them, so report by an investment migration

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Speaker 3: firm Henley and partners who you will have heard of

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01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 3: because they are the ones who do that annual process

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Speaker 3: that they rank the passports every year. We talk about

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Speaker 3: this stuff, right, So these guys predict that we will

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Speaker 3: have more millionaires and billionaires this year than ever before

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Speaker 3: moving to new countries. They reckon one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: eight thousand millionaires alone will move and that eclipses the

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Speaker 3: previous record which was last year, which is one hundred

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Speaker 3: and twenty thousand millionaires. And the reason these guys are

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Speaker 3: wanting to move is because they've got the ability, right.

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Speaker 3: They see the threat of war, they see poverty rising

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Speaker 3: in their countries, they see social upheaval coming for whatever reason,

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Speaker 3: maybe they don't like the politics or whatever, and as

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Speaker 3: a result, they're just upsticks and go to the list

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Speaker 3: of the countries that they want to go to are

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Speaker 3: the UAE, USA, Singapore, Canada, and Australia. Now that's not

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Speaker 3: the list that we're on. We are on the safe

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Speaker 3: haven list. The firm defines a safe haven as a

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01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: sovereign state with high levels of safety and security that

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01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 3: remain largely shielded from the world's political and economic problems,

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Speaker 3: and they call it the safe haven eight for some reason,

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Speaker 3: and I've looked everywhere. I can only find seven of

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Speaker 3: the countries in the eight but anyway, here they are

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, Australia, Switzerland, Singapore, the UAE, Malta and Monaco.

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Speaker 3: And the important thing for us is that's awesome that

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Speaker 3: we're on that list. They're probably going to want to

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Speaker 3: buy a house Winston, So if we could just organize

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Speaker 3: that thing where they can actually bring their money in

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Speaker 3: and buy something so they could be here, that'd be

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Speaker 3: great because we need their money. I'm very happy for

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Speaker 3: their money. Robert Patman. Next on vlad meeting with Kim

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Speaker 3: News Talks ab.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I give my keeping track of where the money

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Speaker 2: is flowing.

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Speaker 1: With the Business Hour with Hither Duplicylan and my hr

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Speaker 1: on News Talks ab.

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Speaker 3: Evening. Coming up in the next hour, We're going to

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Speaker 3: have a chat to Janative Trainey about that SEALSS comment

1458
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Speaker 3: from the Prime Minister. She's on the trip with them.

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Speaker 3: We're going to speak to A and Z also about

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Speaker 3: the ETX auction failing and Lululeman. I need to get

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Speaker 3: you across what's going on there because we're going to

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Speaker 3: talk to Milford Acid management about that right now at

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Speaker 3: seven past six now, Russian President Vladimir Putin has arrived

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Speaker 3: in North Korea for the meeting with Kim Jong un.

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Speaker 3: Putin reportedly opened talks by thanking Kim for his support

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Speaker 3: on Ukraine and saying he admired Pyongyang's transformation over the

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Speaker 3: past twenty four years. None of us can confirm that

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Speaker 3: anything's happened there. We haven't seen it, Kim Jong un said,

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Speaker 3: relations between their two countries are entering a period of

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Speaker 3: new prosperity. International relations professor Robert Patman from Otago Universities

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Speaker 3: with us. Hey, Robert, what do they want from each other?

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Speaker 14: Ah?

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Speaker 9: It's a sort of dictator solidarity meeting, really, isn't it. Basically?

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Speaker 9: In September last year, Kim Jong uns met Putin in

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Speaker 9: vladith Ostok, and that marked the beginning of well, not

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Speaker 9: the beginning, but a landmark in North Korean military support

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Speaker 9: for Russian the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and both South

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Speaker 9: Korean and Ukrainian sources have confirmed that North Korean ballistic

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Speaker 9: missiles as well as a variety of munitions have turned

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Speaker 9: up on the battlefield there. And I think mister Putin's

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Speaker 9: visit on this occasion is to consolidate that North Korean

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Speaker 9: support military support as in return, I think North Korea

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Speaker 9: will want mister Putin to provide a variety of advanced technologies,

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Speaker 9: particularly for their space program, but also would want a

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Speaker 9: substantial flow of Russian oil and food products this country.

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Speaker 9: North Korea under this dictatorship often struggles to feed its population.

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Speaker 9: So and also I think the North Korean regime would

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Speaker 9: be looking for whole currency payments as well for their

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01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 9: support for the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And to be

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Speaker 9: you know, mister Putin wasn't exaggerating when he said that

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Speaker 9: he was very, very grateful for North Korean support, because

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Speaker 9: I think North Korea is one of the few countries

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Speaker 9: that from the outset backed the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

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Speaker 9: In quite unambiguous terms.

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Speaker 3: Does Kim have the upper hand he had, given that

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Speaker 3: he has the weapons and Russia needs the weapons.

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Speaker 9: I saw it's upper hand. Both states are, you know,

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Speaker 9: they both find themselves the subject of pretty comprehensive sanctions,

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Speaker 9: and one of mister Putin's remarks were that they were

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Speaker 9: combating the West. And the interesting thing is that you know,

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Speaker 9: mister Putin in a sense is saying that in their

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Speaker 9: opposition to the West, that they're winning. And I suppose

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Speaker 9: in a sense it's not surprising that mister Putin is

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Speaker 9: looking for support from North Korea. He does need as

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Speaker 9: a matter of urgency at military support. He gets it

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Speaker 9: from indirectly from China, but he's also getting it directly

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Speaker 9: from North Korea. China's official position is neutral, which complicates

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Speaker 9: the open provision of military aid. North Korea has no

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Speaker 9: such reservations, and it's another authority chairman regime in Iran,

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Speaker 9: which also provides support for Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: So we are getting increasingly involved as a country, New

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Speaker 3: Zealand with what is going on in North Korea. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we've been having a look at what they're doing with

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01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 3: the Poseidon and we're now seending it in Zidiya, Frigid

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01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 3: and so on to help monitor. Is this the West

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01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 3: ratcheting up pressure on these guys.

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Speaker 9: I think it's a recognition by New Zealand that there's

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Speaker 9: a lot at stake in the Ukraine conflict and North

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Speaker 9: Korea is an actor, it's a player in the Russian

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Speaker 9: invasion of Ukraine. This is a This is an act

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01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 9: which tore up the UN Charter as a direct threat

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Speaker 9: to New Zealand's interests. After all, mister Putin gets away

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Speaker 9: with annecting Land from a liberal democratic neighbor which has

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Speaker 9: given up its nuclear weapons. That has direct ramifications for

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Speaker 9: New Zealand. After all, we conduct our relations with countries

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Speaker 9: around the world. We trade more than one hundred on

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Speaker 9: the basis of rules. If mister Putin succeeds in showing

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Speaker 9: that might is right, that has ramifications for us.

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Speaker 3: Hey, our navy said that they had seen some sort

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Speaker 3: of you know, anti sanctioned trading that was going on,

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01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 3: where the ships were hooking up with each other in

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01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 3: the sea and transferring coal and so on. If they

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Speaker 3: were who's trading with North Korea? Who would that be?

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Speaker 9: Well, that's a good question. That's the first I've heard

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Speaker 9: of that report, So I couldn't really comment on that.

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Speaker 3: Heather, Well, you need to listen to the show more.

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Speaker 9: I certainly will after this, But Mark exams That's probably

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Speaker 9: why I've been a bit distracted. But I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I mean, there's just a lot of information coming in.

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Speaker 9: I think regime's under sanctions kind the variety of ways

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Speaker 9: around it, and mister Putin has evaded the intent of

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Speaker 9: Western sanctions largely through India. In China, who've both you know,

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01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 9: bought Russian oil, and Russia is largely dependent on the

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01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 9: export fossil fuels. So you know, there's a number of

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Speaker 9: countries which you come to mind that may be helping

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Speaker 9: North Korea in that situation. Yeah, but yeah, you know,

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Speaker 9: I can't be more specific that unfortunately.

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Speaker 3: Robert, thank you as always for the expertise appreciated. It's

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Speaker 3: Robert Patman, International Relations Professor, Otago University. I might have

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Speaker 3: put you wrong earlier when I said that that Putin

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01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 3: had arrived late at night. It was not at all

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01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 3: late at night. It was the middle of the blinking day,

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01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 3: arrived on his plane. And you know, you know how

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01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 3: I love a little bit of North Korean music because

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01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 3: there's nothing like, there's nothing that Kim loves more than

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01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,759
Speaker 3: making the music sound really upbeat. So you think everything's

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01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 3: just absolutely rosy over in North Korea. Never listened to

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01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 3: the din that bloody Vladimir had to endure when he arrived.

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01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 3: This is what he walks out on the red carpet to.

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01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 3: That would define you, wouldn't it. It also would serve

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01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 3: to make you sprint that red carpet, because there's nothing

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01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 3: that makes you kind of pick up your pace more

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01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 3: than fast music. So but maybe that's what Chem was like.

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01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 3: Keem is like, I cannot be bothered dealing with Vlad

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01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 3: and all of his gladhanding and stuff. Play some loud music,

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Speaker 3: make it fast. Let's get this over and done with.

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Speaker 3: What a happy country as a lovely place.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 3: Lulu Lemon I was telling, you've got to get across this.

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01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 3: Lulu Lemon was a market darling. It was drewing really

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01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 3: well through COVID. To spare, everybody's wearing the Lululemon. Everybody

1572
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 3: sat around in those leggings and stuff, had a great

1573
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 3: time winter brunch in it, you know afterwards, like wearing

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01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 3: Mo Lulu Lemon. Everybody loved it. Lately, though the shares

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Speaker 3: have fallen by forty percent, question is why, what's going on?

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01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 3: And then the second question, of course is can they

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Speaker 3: recover from this? Because this is a really significant retreachment

1578
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Speaker 3: in the share price. We'll talk to Milford Asset Management

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Speaker 3: in about ten minutes. Next up, Jenati Traine fourteen plus six.

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Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's headed duplicy

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Speaker 1: ellen with the business hours. Thanks to my HR, the

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Speaker 1: HR platform for SME on newstalksb hey.

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Speaker 3: In the wake of the COVID pandemic, many employees have

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Speaker 3: got used to working remotely at least some of the time,

1585
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 3: but plenty of employers now really like their team back

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01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 3: in the workplace more often to boost collaboration and culture

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01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 3: and efficiency and so on. So question, of course is

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Speaker 3: how can businesses go about bringing workers into the office

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Speaker 3: without coming across like the big bad boss who's taking

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01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 3: away employee freedoms. Well, to get to the bottom of it,

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01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 3: my HR spoke to employment and legal experts about the

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01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 3: new hybrid work dynamic and things that employers should consider

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Speaker 3: if they want their people back in the workplace.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 3: Firstly, what you need is to balance the business and

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01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 3: the employee needs.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 3: There are some legal considerations because while you can demand

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Speaker 3: a worker be at the location specified in their employment agreement,

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Speaker 3: employ but also have the right to request flexible working arrangements.

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01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 3: And the best approach is to work with people to

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01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 3: get the best out of them at working at home.

1603
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 3: And if you want to increase teamwork and productivity, getting

1604
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 3: staff in on certain days may work best. Providing transition

1605
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 3: time on any change in requirements will also help people

1606
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 3: adapt now they've written an article about it. To read

1607
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 3: the article on returning to the office and hybrid work,

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Speaker 3: visit myhr dot com forward slash resources full of insights

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01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 3: into the benefits of working remotely versus in the office,

1610
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 3: as well as examples of how some larger key we

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01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 3: organizations are handling flexible work. You can also browse myhr's

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Speaker 3: extensive range of useful guides and resources on all aspects

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Speaker 3: of employment and people management. Heather duplic Allen eighteen pass

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Speaker 3: six Scott, A little update for you on the Fiji Hilton.

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01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 3: We have comms from the boss. I'm going to get

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01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 3: that to your eighteen past sex genative trainee Herald Wellington

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Speaker 3: Business editor with us now. But currently where are you, Jane?

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Speaker 3: Where in Japan?

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01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 15: Hey, Heather, I am in Tokyo and we are in

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01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 15: this beautiful sort of office area filing our stories. We

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01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 15: have the New Zealand Business Delegation next door. Lots of

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01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 15: people in suits, shaking hands. Business still is being done.

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01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 15: It's a great, great vibe here in Tokyo.

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01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 3: Is the Business Delegation just fizzing about the fact that

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01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 3: they're the A Listers.

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01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 15: They must be, I mean, how good would that be

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01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 15: to be the A Listers? But the awkward thing here

1628
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 15: is that some of the people on the current business

1629
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 15: delegation were on delegations when Labor was in government. So

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01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 15: you know, there'll be some people here thinking, oh, well,

1631
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 15: why has the Prime minister effectively called us C listers

1632
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,879
Speaker 15: and tag alongs as well? And people who couldn't convert

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01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 15: talk into business during previous trips, do you think.

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01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I can see what Luxen's trying to do here, right,

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01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 3: He's trying to talk himself up as the big business

1636
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 3: guy as opposed to Jacinda, who was just sort of like,

1637
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 3: well it's cool, the kind of like the cool prime Minister.

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01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 3: But in the crossfire of this are people who you know,

1639
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 3: he's having a crack at, right, not so smart.

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01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 15: Well yeah, look, that's the thing. It's one thing to

1641
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 15: criticize labor, but it's another thing to criticize businesses ahead

1642
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,759
Speaker 15: of a trip aimed at selling businesses to the world.

1643
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 15: I think that the timing of this was really poor.

1644
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 15: And you know, even if Chris pha Luxen believed he

1645
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 15: had a good point to make. You know, this business

1646
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 15: delegation undoubtedly is excellent. We have the CEO's chairs from

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01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 15: some of the largest companies in New Zealand. Even if

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01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 15: he thought he was making a point, it is just

1649
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 15: you know, absolutely the wrong thing to say, you know,

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01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 15: a real kick in the guts for businesses that went

1651
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 15: on previous trips also just just naive. And the thing

1652
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 15: with us is that he didn't. It wasn't just a

1653
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 15: slip of the tongue to Newstalk z'd be. He made

1654
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 15: the point to my colleague Jason Walls, and then he

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01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,600
Speaker 15: made similar comments to me during interview I had with

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01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 15: him ahead of the trip. So you know, it's not

1657
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 15: a good look. And another point that I had thought.

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01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 15: I went on a business trip when Jasinda Radun was

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01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 15: Prime Minister and there were in fact smaller businesses that went,

1660
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 15: like you know New Zealand fashion brands and luxury goods,

1661
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 15: these sorts of things, special types of food, handbags, so on.

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Speaker 15: But those for those smaller businesses, those trips are pretty valuable.

1663
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 15: It's harder for them to get into new markets alone

1664
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 15: than it is for Sponterra or an am Z. You know,

1665
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 15: these guys already have the connections around the world, so

1666
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 15: you know there is still value I believe in doing

1667
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 15: trade trips with smaller companies.

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Speaker 3: You know, you make some really excellent points, they enjoy

1669
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 3: the rest of the trip and thanks for your time.

1670
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 3: That's Gnative Trainee, The Herald's Wellington Business editor over in Japan. Okay, so,

1671
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 3: as I told you, we've got comms from the boss

1672
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 3: who is running. This is the boss of Growth Culture,

1673
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:47,879
Speaker 3: the outfit that is running the leadership, the professional Leadership

1674
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 3: development trip for the eighty Principles to the Fiji Hilton

1675
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 3: High Heather. This is Marshall High Heather Slash Laura, Sorry

1676
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 3: I missed your call. We are so so excited about

1677
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 3: our MAHI and the transformation we have been seeing in Fiji.

1678
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 3: I am happy to do an interview with Simon Barnett

1679
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 3: only for news talks. What do we not know about

1680
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 3: Simon and his relationship with Marshall, who's taken the people

1681
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 3: to the Fiji Hilton. Now here's the question for you, Laura.

1682
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 3: Does Simon actually want to do an interview with Marshall?

1683
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 3: We don't know. Okay, we are going to make Simon

1684
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 3: do an interview with Marshall tomorrow, aren't we because I

1685
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 3: feel like I don't. I do not think that I

1686
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 3: have hierarchy over Simon, but I feel like we can

1687
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 3: mount a pretty good argument to make the boss forsome.

1688
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 3: So we're going to force Simon. We're gonna make the

1689
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 3: We're gonna make the boss for Simon to talk to

1690
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 3: Marshall tomorrow. Hopefully Marshall's available tomorrow. I don't know if

1691
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 3: he could take some time away from the pool of

1692
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 3: the cocktails, but that would be really handy because we

1693
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 3: know that not doing any learning in the afternoon, because

1694
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 3: that's what the pamphlet says, it's in the morning only,

1695
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 3: and fortunately the boys are in the afternoon anyway. Anyway,

1696
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 3: what Marshall has not thought through, though, is that I'm

1697
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 3: going to write Simon's questions for him. So I'm gonna

1698
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 3: help Simon with this, okay, because Simon, you and I

1699
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 3: know Simon's a nice man and I'm not. And so

1700
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna write my nasty little questions and I'm going

1701
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 3: to make Simon read them in his nice voice to Marshall,

1702
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 3: and we're going to get the answers that we want. Anyway,

1703
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 3: and maybe I can even do one of those things.

1704
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 3: We'll get like an earpiece and I talk to someone

1705
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 3: asking that question. See if we'll see what we can do.

1706
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna make this.

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01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 12: Work for what We'll kind of spin it that we're

1708
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 12: helping them with their show. We'll do our show for

1709
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 12: the day, but hey, we've also got some time to

1710
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 12: help you guys out with your show.

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01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 3: Just you know, takes twist, plot twist. Do you think

1712
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 3: that we could have a caller call into Simon's show

1713
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 3: while Marshall is being interviewed and that caller be Heather

1714
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 3: with a question the from Pons and he's got a

1715
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 3: question and I'll put on a fake voice. Anyway, stay

1716
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,799
Speaker 3: tuned because this could get very interesting between Marshall and myself.

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01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 3: It's a little Minatretoi six twenty three.

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01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: Clunging the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Dup

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Speaker 1: see Ellen with them business hours. Thanks to my HR,

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Speaker 1: the HR platform for sme on newstalksb.

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Speaker 3: Heather Ai fake voice. This is the best idea I've

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Speaker 3: heard because what I could do is I could ask

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Speaker 3: Ai to just make me sound like Simon Bonney as

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Speaker 3: is possible. You just feed a bit of Simon Barnett

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Speaker 3: into it and then you just you basically just type

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Speaker 3: the questions out and it will ask the questions. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to this like we're gonna have to do

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Speaker 3: a lot of work overnight. It's basically gonna have to

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Speaker 3: learn how to use AI. I still don't really know,

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Speaker 3: so anyway, wish me luck now. The ETS auction unfortunately

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Speaker 3: failed today as you yesterday, as you will well know. No,

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Speaker 3: it was today, wasn't it? It was today? It failed anyway,

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Speaker 3: that's the most important point that you need to know.

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Speaker 3: The floor price was something like sixty four sixty four

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Speaker 3: dollars per carbon unit, which is way higher than the

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Speaker 3: price units have been trading it in the secondary market.

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Speaker 3: And absolutely nobody participated today. And why would they because

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Speaker 3: the whole thing is still up in the air. Why

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Speaker 3: would you buy into something that you don't really understand

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Speaker 3: which way it's going. The current government's taken a completely

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Speaker 3: different approach to the last government. So we're going to

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Speaker 3: talk to A and Z about that very shortly. That's

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Speaker 3: a fair bit of money that's just been foregone unfortunately

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Speaker 3: for the country. Got a little bit of good news

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Speaker 3: for you, we could potentially have another football player from

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Speaker 3: New Zealand heading off to an English Premier League club

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Speaker 3: by the end of the week. Apparently Nottingham Forest is

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Speaker 3: interested in this young guy called Marco Staminich. He's Serbian.

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Speaker 3: He's Serbian New Zealander. I think he's playing in Serbia

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Speaker 3: at the moment, in like some sort of a club

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Speaker 3: over there. He's also an all Whites midfielder. Right, so

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Speaker 3: we've definitely got a claim on this young man. He's

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Speaker 3: apparently agreed terms on a contract with Nottingham Forest. It's

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Speaker 3: supposed to be confirmed in the coming days. If he

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Speaker 3: signs the steal, it'll be worth ten million dollars. That

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Speaker 3: would be the highest sum ever paid for a Kiwi

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Speaker 3: footballer other than Chris Wood, which was fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: How good is that for all of the football kids

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Speaker 3: in this country. That is the second footballer from New

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Speaker 3: Zealand in a month. Going to the EPL headlines next.

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Speaker 1: Yes, whether it's macro MicroB or just playing economics, it's

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Speaker 1: all on the Business Hour.

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Speaker 2: The Dupe c Allen and my HR, the HR platform.

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Speaker 1: For sme US talk streaking news.

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Speaker 3: There is inflation down again in the UK will go

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Speaker 3: to Gavin Groves. It's below two percent now in the year.

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Speaker 3: We're going to go to Gavin Gray in about ten

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Speaker 3: minutes time. Also need to get you across the ets.

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Speaker 3: Elksin failing and Lululemon just really quickly. The New York

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Speaker 3: Post has broken as the outfit that broke the story

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Speaker 3: about Justin Timberlake's arrest this morning. They are now also

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Speaker 3: reporting that the officer who arrested him was so young

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Speaker 3: he didn't even know who Justin Timberlake was. Just to

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Speaker 3: remind you how big Justin Timberlake is. He's won a

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Speaker 3: Grammy ten times, so he is a He.

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Speaker 2: Was part of in Sync.

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Speaker 3: He was going out with with What's the one in

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Speaker 3: Chefdt Britney Spears Hayes a big deal. Apparently, Justin when

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Speaker 3: he was arrested, said under his breath, this is going

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Speaker 3: to ruin the tour, and the cop replied, what tour?

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Speaker 3: And Justin said, the World Tour makes you feel old.

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Speaker 3: Day twenty three away from seven Together to Seal Siphany Bachelor,

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Speaker 3: Milford Asset Management, Hey, Stephanie Hi, Heather Steffanie. I see

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Speaker 3: Lululemon's shares are down something like forty percent At the moment,

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Speaker 3: I thought that they were once a market darling, weren't they?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right. So Lululemon has historically been a much

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Speaker 8: loved name for investors. It was really the pioneer of

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Speaker 8: at leisure when it was founded over twenty five years ago,

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Speaker 8: and it did really well during COVID. You know, people

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Speaker 8: stopped going out, they were working from home wearing comfied clothes.

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Speaker 8: I know, I pretty much lived in my Lululemon leggings.

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Speaker 8: And shares have done well historically. So for example, from

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Speaker 8: twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three, Lulu shares delivered three

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Speaker 8: hundred and twenty percent, or about three times what the

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Speaker 8: broader US market delivered. But this year, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 8: it had a poor quarterly result in March and that

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Speaker 8: caused a big sell off. So shares are now down

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Speaker 8: about forty.

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Speaker 3: Percent this year. What's going on? Why is this happening?

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Speaker 8: Well, the big concern is around growth in the US.

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Speaker 8: Lulu is actually a Canadian brand, but you can think

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Speaker 8: of the US as Lulu's home market, and growth there

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Speaker 8: has slowed in the last couple of quarters from double

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Speaker 8: digit down to single digit. Now there are a couple

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Speaker 8: of factors that Lulu's management team have called out over

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Speaker 8: the last two result calls. The first one is that

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Speaker 8: they've talked about inventory mis steps. They said they didn't

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Speaker 8: have enough small sizes, they didn't have enough color, they

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Speaker 8: didn't have enough of the popular bags to satisfy customer demand.

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Speaker 8: But they're essentially saying the brand and the popularity is

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Speaker 8: fine and if they'd had the right product available, they

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Speaker 8: would have done much better. They also mentioned general macro weakness,

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Speaker 8: and we've seen that here in New Zealand and around

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Speaker 8: the world. With that painful cost of living, people are

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Speaker 8: cutting back in other more discretionary areas of spend. And

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Speaker 8: there are also questions around whether it just had such

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Speaker 8: a great run during COVID, you know, with people stocking

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Speaker 8: up on active wear, and now people are out and

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Speaker 8: about wearing thermal clothes again, so maybe they just don't

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Speaker 8: need to spend their money at Lulummm.

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Speaker 3: What about competition, because as you said, they they were

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Speaker 3: the ones who started the athletes, but everybody else is

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Speaker 3: doing that as well now, aren't they.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So that's the other piece of the puzzle that

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Speaker 8: investors are really concerned about. There are a couple of

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Speaker 8: yoga apparel companies that are doing really well in the US.

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Speaker 8: One is Alo Yoga and the other is Viori, and

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Speaker 8: they've been growing pretty quickly and actually opening stores right

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Speaker 8: next to Lululemon stores. So there are questions around whether

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Speaker 8: Lulu is falling behind or lacking innovation relative to these newcomers,

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Speaker 8: But it is worth noting competition is nothing new for Lulu.

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Speaker 8: They've always competed against names like Nike and Adidas, and

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Speaker 8: six or seven years ago there was a lot of

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Speaker 8: concern around Lorna Jane athletea Sweaty Betty and a few others,

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Speaker 8: which Lulu seemed to navigate just fine.

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Speaker 3: So given how far the shares have fallen, at what

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Speaker 3: point do you think the investors start buying them again.

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Speaker 8: So it could take a couple more quarters until some

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Speaker 8: of the more bearish investors feel confident jumping back into

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Speaker 8: the shares. Management have said they planned to have the

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Speaker 8: inventory issues involved in the second half and that they

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Speaker 8: have a healthy lineup of innovation set to come through,

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Speaker 8: so that will help to answer the question on whether

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Speaker 8: this is just a short term slip or if there

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Speaker 8: are longer term issues around competition. Or the brand losing popularity,

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Speaker 8: and look, there are still a lot of positives. The

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Speaker 8: underlying as leisure industry is still growing. The international growth

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Speaker 8: for Lululemon is incredibly strong. They've expanded into men'swear, and

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Speaker 8: they've got market leading margins and profitability. So trying to

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Speaker 8: figure out exactly when a stop will recover is a

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Speaker 8: lost tricky. But right now it seems the more skeptical

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01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 8: investors are sitting back and waiting a bit to see

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Speaker 8: how things pan out before they start gazing.

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Speaker 3: Interesting and why Stephanie, thank you very much, Stephanie Bachelor,

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Speaker 3: Milford Asset Managements, twenty away from.

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Speaker 2: Seven ever duple Zoe.

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Speaker 3: Yet another carbon auction has failed. There are serious questions

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Speaker 3: now over whether our carbon market is actually working or not.

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Speaker 3: Just over four million units were available to buy today

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Speaker 3: at sixty four dollars each, but they're costing just forty

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Speaker 3: nine bucks on the secondary market, so no surprise, none

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Speaker 3: was sold at the auction. Susan Killsby is an agricultural

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Speaker 3: economist today in Zenen with us. Now, Hey, Susan, Hello,

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Speaker 3: Is this a case of just pricing them too high?

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Speaker 3: Or is it a case of people now being quite

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Speaker 3: nervous about the direction of the climate policy.

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Speaker 24: Well, it really comes down to the fact that there's

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Speaker 24: a lot of units in circulation at the moment, so

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Speaker 24: more than the market really needs. So people don't need

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Speaker 24: to go to these government auctions to buy their units

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Speaker 24: at sixty four dollars when they can buy them elsewhere

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Speaker 24: at forty nine dollars. So essentially it's just the market

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Speaker 24: working as it should when there's an oversupply situation where

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Speaker 24: it's actually reducing the supply by these units not entering

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Speaker 24: the market.

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Speaker 3: Is it not the case also, Susan that the ones

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Speaker 3: that were unsold in this auction transfer over to the

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Speaker 3: next auction.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, that's that's correct. So anything's unsold during the calendar

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Speaker 24: year gets transferred through through to the end of the year.

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Speaker 24: As we saw what happen last year, which we had

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Speaker 24: a lot of auctions that didn't sell, the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Is going to happen next time around, it, Well, the

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Speaker 3: chances are now increase that the same thing happens next time.

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Speaker 24: Well, they've changed the rules a little bit so there

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Speaker 24: can be a partial clearance so long as they meet

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Speaker 24: those minimum prices, which wasn't the case last year. So

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Speaker 24: it did get harder and harder to clear clear the

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Speaker 24: market last year. Now there can be a partial clearance,

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Speaker 24: so as long as there's a bias for some of

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Speaker 24: those units, they will sell. But you know, there is

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Speaker 24: a huge amount of units in circulation at the moment,

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Speaker 24: and these really come into the market through alternative ways.

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Speaker 24: So anything that is any forestry plantings that are registered

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Speaker 24: into the ETS basically create units. So we've got this

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Speaker 24: extra supply coming in from forestry. So these the supply

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Speaker 24: from the government options isn't really needed to stuff.

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Speaker 3: So is that is that the problem with why we've

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Speaker 3: got so many It's that we just have too many

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Speaker 3: coming in from forestry, not that we're not using enough,

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Speaker 3: we have too many coming on.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, well, most ets is around the world, there's a

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Speaker 24: lot operating in a lot for different countries. Most have

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Speaker 24: a capped supplies. There is a limited amount sup five

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Speaker 24: units that can come in. But the way we've set

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Speaker 24: it up with allowing forestry to be used as offsets

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Speaker 24: as well, there's real uncertainty around that supply that will

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Speaker 24: come from forestry. No one really knows who's going to

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01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 24: plant to how many you know the number of trees

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Speaker 24: and how many will be registered into the scheme, so

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Speaker 24: it creates this huge degree of uncertainty, so it can't

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Speaker 24: really be used as a cap and trade scheme like

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Speaker 24: it's been used elsewhere by sort of pushing the price

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Speaker 24: up to encourage the reduction and emissions as the supply

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Speaker 24: keeps growing.

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Speaker 3: Now that agriculture has been officially exempt again from the ETS,

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Speaker 3: are there other sectors who are also hoping for the

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Speaker 3: same treatment.

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Speaker 24: I'm really not sure. I think most of the other

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Speaker 24: sectors there's you know, there's been our ETS, and the

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Speaker 24: ZOON does cover a pretty broad range of sectors, particularly

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Speaker 24: compared with other etss around the world. I don't think

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Speaker 24: we'll see a lot of changes in that. I mean,

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01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 24: excluding excluding agriculture really came down to the fact that

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Speaker 24: most of the agriculture emissions are MEY SAYE not CO two,

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Speaker 24: so different. Guess they're really just treating it differently.

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Speaker 3: Susan, good to talk to you, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Susan kills me. Agricultural economists hate this is kind of

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Speaker 3: like I'm actually I don't actually hate this. I think

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Speaker 3: this is kind of a cool idea you can if

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Speaker 3: you want to. From Hamilton council. Now you can buy

1932
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Speaker 3: the old parking meter heads because obviously like the old ones,

1933
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Speaker 3: you know the ones where you put the coin in

1934
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Speaker 3: and then you turn the dial and then the coin

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Speaker 3: fell down and then you got your whatever a lot

1936
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Speaker 3: of time or whatever. You can buy those. They've obviously

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Speaker 3: got rid of them. They got all the fancy ones

1938
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Speaker 3: when you use your credit card and stuff. They cost

1939
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Speaker 3: only thirty bucks each, or if you want to have

1940
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Speaker 3: a multi by discount if you buy five or more.

1941
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Speaker 3: Because I don't know what you're gonna do with them,

1942
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 3: but anyway, if you buy five or more, twenty five

1943
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Speaker 3: bucks each, so you could give them as gifts to

1944
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 3: people byo pole. Unfortunately they don't come with their own pole.

1945
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 3: But that's kind of a I feel like that would

1946
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 3: be I've got a friend ho this would go perfectly

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Speaker 3: in their house because they have the kind of retro

1948
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Speaker 3: kind of retro kitch thing going where there's a lot

1949
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 3: of like just little like Nixon knacks from old New

1950
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 3: Zealand that you would have seen around this. I mean,

1951
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 3: that's Christmas. That's actually I'm going to keep that. That's

1952
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Speaker 3: the Christmas present sorted quarter two every day from.

1953
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Speaker 2: SME to the big corporates.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with hither duplic Ellen and my HR

1955
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Speaker 1: the HR platform for sme.

1956
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Speaker 3: Use talks, it'd be Kevin Gray UK corresponds with us

1957
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Speaker 3: now even in Gavin Hi there, Heather, brilliant news for

1958
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Speaker 3: you guys. Your inflation's back down to the two percent mark.

1959
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Speaker 25: Yes, it's been some time getting there. Two percent is

1960
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Speaker 25: the target that the Bank of England has been set.

1961
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Speaker 25: They're the ones that control the interest rates, and that

1962
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Speaker 25: decision as well is now going to be an interesting

1963
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 25: one after these figures came out, So it marks a

1964
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 25: fall from two point three percent, and it's the month

1965
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Speaker 25: ago the Prime Minister had called a general election on

1966
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:49,560
Speaker 25: the day April's inflation figures showed a continued decline. This

1967
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 25: will really add to the debate about the economy and

1968
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Speaker 25: whose hands it is safest in as we rattle towards

1969
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Speaker 25: our general election in less than two weeks now. So

1970
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Speaker 25: the set of figures for may Do, however, show a

1971
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 25: headline rate of inflation at two percent, and that is

1972
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 25: below most of the rest of the G seven. The

1973
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 25: advanced economies apart from Italy and food prices though are

1974
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 25: still twenty five percent higher than at the beginning of

1975
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Speaker 25: twenty twenty two. Petrol prices are on the way up again.

1976
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 25: So underlying figures for services inflation and core inflation are

1977
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 25: what lots of people look at, and they are a

1978
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 25: lot higher three point five percent for core inflation and

1979
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 25: five point seven for services. So you know, inflation is

1980
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 25: a difficult topic, but it's one that will give this

1981
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 25: government a shot in the arm that the opinion polls

1982
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 25: suggests they are going to be wiped out at the

1983
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Speaker 25: general election on the fourth of July.

1984
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Speaker 3: Totally. Hey, these allegations against the UK's richest family in

1985
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:49,759
Speaker 3: Switzerland sound pretty serious.

1986
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Speaker 25: Yes, so, I mean you might think that the Royal

1987
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 25: family is perhaps the richest family in the UK. You

1988
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 25: would be wrong. It is the Hinduja family. They are

1989
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 25: a family of business people and they have an estimated

1990
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 25: wealth of roughly seventy eight billion New Zealand dollars. However,

1991
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 25: they're in Switzerland and in court accused of exploitation and

1992
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Speaker 25: human trafficking. Basically this relates to the fact or they

1993
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Speaker 25: have imported servants from India to look after their children

1994
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Speaker 25: and household and it's alleged that Prakash and Camal Hinduja,

1995
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Speaker 25: together with their son Aj and his wife, have confiscated

1996
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Speaker 25: their passports and paid them as little as roughly sixteen

1997
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 25: New Zealand dollars for an eighteen hour day and allowed

1998
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Speaker 25: them little freedom to leave the house. Now they've reached

1999
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Speaker 25: a financial settlement over the exploitation bit, but it's the

2000
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Speaker 25: trafficking charges, which are very serious in Switzerland, which are

2001
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,760
Speaker 25: what is now up for grabs and being debated in court.

2002
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 25: They deny any wrongdoing, but the court has heard that

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01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 25: they are hardly the servants are hardly allowed to leave

2004
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Speaker 25: the house and only with the permission of the Induja,

2005
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 25: and that some would say is effectively human trafficking. And

2006
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Speaker 25: so this case likely to go on for a few

2007
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Speaker 25: more days.

2008
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Speaker 3: And speaking of rich people, how is this Ares's fortune

2009
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 3: being divided up?

2010
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Speaker 25: Well, this is an amazing story. So a lady called

2011
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 25: Marlene Engelhorn, who's thirty two years old, made headlines in

2012
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Speaker 25: January because she's being inheriting some forty five million New

2013
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Speaker 25: Zealand dollars worth. And she's turned around and said, actually,

2014
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 25: do you know what I don't want it? It's money

2015
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Speaker 25: from my grandmother. I haven't worked for it. I don't

2016
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 25: think that we should have such inheritance laws in the

2017
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Speaker 25: UK where you can inherit so much money. And so

2018
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 25: she set up a Momentum Institute which effectively looked at

2019
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 25: a group of fifty people to work out how to

2020
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 25: distribute the millions that she's inherited. And now we know

2021
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 25: where it's going to go. And it's a fascinating list

2022
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 25: of different organizations seven in total, as you would can

2023
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 25: imagine charities but also think tanks dealing with a range

2024
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 25: of environmental protection, education, integration, health and social issues, as

2025
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 25: well as poverty and homelessness. In Austria. The smallest donation

2026
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 25: is roughly for eighty thousand New Zealand dollars for an

2027
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 25: initiative to support data based reporting on climate change. But

2028
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Speaker 25: as I said, the total amount being given way is

2029
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 25: over roughly the forty five million New Zealand dollar mark.

2030
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Speaker 3: Quite amazing, Yeah, a lot of money. Gavin, Thank you

2031
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Speaker 3: as always, talk to you in a couple of days again.

2032
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Speaker 3: Devin Gray our UK correspondence coming up eight away from seven.

2033
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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics, it's all

2034
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Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with hither duplicy Ellen and my

2035
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 1: hr the HR platform for sme us.

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Speaker 3: Talk CIB six away from seven. Laura, have you heard

2037
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 3: yet about have you as Simon sug used to the

2038
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 3: interview or Marshall Marshall nothing? Still nothing? Okay, Well, we're

2039
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 3: working on both. This is becoming very complicated for us

2040
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 3: because normally we just go, yeah, you want to do

2041
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 3: an interview. You hear this here, I don't get a choice.

2042
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 3: They're like, you're doing the interview. I'm like, okay, But

2043
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 3: now we have to get that side, and then we

2044
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:09,560
Speaker 3: have to get the other side because now we have

2045
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 3: to make sure the Simon's interested in. It's all just

2046
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 3: a fairy bout.

2047
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 12: I mean in some parts of the country here the

2048
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 12: afternoons with Sion James gets four hours. I mean, we

2049
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 12: only get three. It wouldn't kill them to give us

2050
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:19,880
Speaker 12: five little minutes of their four hour shows.

2051
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is the pitch that this is the

2052
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 3: pitch that we're working on right now for when we're

2053
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 3: going to talk to Jason about this tomorrow. The boss

2054
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 3: and there's going to force Andrew their boss who's going

2055
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 3: to force Simon. So it's like a chain of people

2056
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 3: who we have to But we're working on the pitch

2057
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 3: to the people. Yep, answer, starting the pitch. Get a

2058
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 3: load of this. This is this is a case of

2059
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 3: a dispute between politicians in Vermont that's got completely out

2060
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 3: of hand. One of them started pouring water into the

2061
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:48,719
Speaker 3: other one's work bag multiple times over a period of months.

2062
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 3: What happened is that the Democrat Jim Carroll, by the way,

2063
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 3: sixty two this is the age of these people, sixty two,

2064
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 3: he noticed there was water in his bag all of

2065
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:00,640
Speaker 3: the time, and he suspected it was the Republican representative

2066
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 3: Mary Morrissey sixty seven, because she had been nasty to

2067
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 3: him for it quite a few months. And he thought

2068
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 3: that was bit off because I've known each other since

2069
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 3: they were kids, and they even go to the same church.

2070
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 3: So he was like, I think Mary's the one pouring

2071
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 3: the water into my bag. But he had no evidence,

2072
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 3: so he went quite quite a length to prove this.

2073
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 3: He started recording his backpack secretly. Twice he caught her

2074
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 3: dumping a cup of liquid into his tote bag. After

2075
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:27,759
Speaker 3: he was able to prove it, it got media attention,

2076
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,680
Speaker 3: so Mary then apologized to him during a meeting presumably

2077
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 3: one of their legislative meetings, and then she said, but

2078
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 3: she was sorry, but she didn't know it was his bag,

2079
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 3: and she said she flipped water onto it because she

2080
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 3: saw there was a bug in the bag.

2081
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:43,679
Speaker 12: Mary.

2082
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 3: Nobody believed that. No, nobody believed that, So then she

2083
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 3: changed her story, and then her news story is appears

2084
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,600
Speaker 3: to be the current story. She doesn't know why she

2085
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 3: did it, so now she's admitting she did it, but

2086
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,679
Speaker 3: now she doesn't know why she did it. I mean, honestly,

2087
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 3: it's incredible. It's incredible that, like, is there something that

2088
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 3: happens to us? Do we turn a little corner at

2089
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 3: a certain age and we start behaving like reversing back

2090
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 3: to behaving like children again. It's incredible how many sixty

2091
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 3: year olds plus behave like this?

2092
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 12: Ants post Malone and Morgan worn I had some help

2093
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:17,600
Speaker 12: to play us out. Tonight, post Malone has announced that

2094
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 12: he is going to release an album. He did this

2095
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,639
Speaker 12: with a Billboard in Nashville. Very appropriate because presumably there'll

2096
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 12: be lots of country music like this on it. The

2097
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 12: album's going to be called if one Trillion, and it's

2098
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 12: going to come out on the sixteenth of August. It's

2099
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 12: not clear whether this song or what songs will be

2100
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 12: on it, Because he hasn't announced a track lists or anything.

2101
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 12: We just know the name and the release date.

2102
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 3: Are you into this?

2103
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 12: I think this is a banger, this one Okay, Morgan Wallan,

2104
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 12: Post Malone, neither of them are my favorite artists in

2105
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:43,640
Speaker 12: the world, but when they want to make a good

2106
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 12: pop song, they can do it.

2107
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Speaker 3: Okay, let's have a listen and thank you, see you

2108
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 3: tomorrow and us stil zibay, blame baby, blame.

2109
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Speaker 2: That at.

2110
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Speaker 1: Well.

2111
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 2: I like God to make this counting mess up by myself,

2112
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:10,679
Speaker 2: don't I got kill my hell? We pull itself every week.

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Speaker 9: If you could tell.

2114
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Speaker 2: They said same one makes some train some.

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Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to

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