1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: The issues is the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: on early edition with one roof make your property search simple, 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: new stalks. 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: It'd be. 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 3: Hey, good morning to you. Welcome to your Tuesday. I'm 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 3: Andrew Dickens. Coming up over the next sixty minutes. There 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 3: are changes to the Health and Safety Act. What will 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 3: that mean for you and your business? Will have that 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 3: story for you in five Welcome. The airport has sharpened 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: its pencils on its charges to airlines, So what will 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 3: that mean for airfares? And does this mean the Comcom's working? 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: We'll have that story. In ten we'll discuss the curious 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: case of Benjamin Doyle and Winston Rackins. He has a 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 3: fairy deal? Is it a good one? We'll look about 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: just before six, we'll have correspondence from right around New Zealand. 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: We'll have Donald Demayo out of Australia. We'll have news 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 3: as it breaks and you can have your say, Babe 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: sending me a text and the text number is ninety 19 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: two ninety two or small charge applies. Good morning, It's 20 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: step it up to five. 21 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: The agenda. 22 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: Yes, good morning. It is the first of April. It 23 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 3: is April Fall's Day and I'm not intending to play 24 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: any jokes. But first I will go to France with 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: the leader of the far right National Party, Madeline la Pen, 26 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: has been sentenced to jail and bann from running in 27 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: the next presidential election in twenty twenty seven. She's been 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: found guilty for embezzling European funds to finance her party. 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 3: La Penn left the courtroom before the Judge of finished 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 3: handing down details of the sentence, and she's already said 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: she'll appeal. 32 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 4: Given the fact that our courts are overloaded, the calendar 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 4: of the courts might well be between eighteen months and 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 4: two years, which gets us extremely close to our presidential election. 35 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: And again the judgment is so harsh that it's doubtful 36 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 4: that indeed the next court, if she will, could wipe boult. 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: Now to the earthquake at me and Mar, where the 38 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: death toll has surpassed two thousand people four thousand people injured, 39 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: many still unaccounted for. That death toll will go up. 40 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: The UN has made an urgent appeal for eight million 41 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 3: dollars as eight groups one of a worstling humanitarian crisis, 42 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 3: with hospitals damaged and overwhelmed. Information out of me and 43 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: Mah has been limited because of the junta, and the 44 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: death toll is expected to be much worse than's being reported. 45 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 5: It took three days to have that relatively small junkin numbers. Now, 46 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 5: the US Geological Survey said, if you look at the 47 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 5: size of the earthquake seven point seven magnitude this was, 48 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 5: and the areas that were affected, they said, perhaps a 49 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 5: death toll of something in the region of ten thousands 50 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 5: could be expected from something like this. 51 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: And Russia. Russia says work is ongoing with the United 52 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: States on a Ukraine's cease file liberties fire deal after 53 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: Donald Trump said he was very angry and I quote 54 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: pissed off with Vladimir Putin. Trump's sharp change in tone 55 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: was in response to Putin suggesting an interim government in 56 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: Ukraine under the support of the UN could replace Zelenski. 57 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: So Donald threatens secondary tariffs on all oil coming out 58 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: of Australia if he thinks Moscow is to blame for 59 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: failing to reach a ceasefire. It's a psychological deadline. If 60 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 3: I think that down bigger, so long, I will not 61 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: be happy about it. 62 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: Do you think they are I don't know. 63 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 6: I don't think so. 64 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: I think he wants to make a deal. 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: As Donald Trump being interviewed at long range. It is 66 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: now ten after five. 67 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio earlier edition with 68 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property Search Simple, 69 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: You Talk said be So. 70 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: Winston's great rail solution is now revealed, well some of 71 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: it anyway. It seems just like Kiwi Rail's I Rex, 72 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: but cheaper. The boats are still big, bigger than we've 73 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: got right now, but smaller than the ones that were 74 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: ordered before. They are rail enabled, but the port side 75 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: infrastructure in the work there is a lot more reasonable 76 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: and that's always been the thing. The original boats were 77 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: actually a good deal, but the kicker always came port side. 78 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: Kiwi Rail was under the belief, in fact, this is 79 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: what they were told back in the day by the government, 80 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: including Winston Peters, that this project had to be future proofed. 81 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: This had to be a fifty to one hundred year thing. 82 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 3: This was something that had to last, which is a 83 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: type of thinking that New Zealand doesn't too often. So 84 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: the ferrari in this whole deal was not the boats, 85 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 3: it was the ports. Now Winston says, Picton needs a 86 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: big revent that's going to cost but the earthquake Prome 87 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: Wellington Port just needs a touch up. It's thought, by 88 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: the way, that the new fairies will have less capacity 89 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 3: in an ideal world. All of this is not ideal, 90 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: but it is, as Winston says, pragmatic. 91 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 4: Now. 92 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: I know people involved with the original Irex deal on 93 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: the government side, and when this first happened, I talk 94 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: to them and they said that Kiwi Rail should not 95 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 3: come to their government expecting an open checkbook. They were 96 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: supporters of rail and all that sort of thing, but 97 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: you just can't come thinking you can just you know, 98 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 3: fleece billions out of the government just like that. And 99 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: he was right. The original Irex deal had some good 100 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 3: parts to it and it is the one that we 101 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 3: should have aspired to. But as the government keeps telling us, 102 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: now is not the right time for aspirational long term planning. 103 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: We just can't afford it. But if not now, when 104 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: will we do anything right first time? So this deal 105 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: looks like a saving short term, but the question will 106 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: always be for another generation will we end up paying more? 107 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: Long term? The upshot is that we do have fairies 108 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: coming by twenty twenty nine, and that's when our current 109 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: fairies have end their life, So the timing is tight. 110 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 3: The new fairies are file, they's likely to think than 111 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: the ones we already have. And you know that's about it. 112 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: In this story, we're right back to where we were 113 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: thirty years ago. 114 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens of After Five. 115 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 3: I've been watching the gangs and the drugs and a 116 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 3: few stories that are around over the last week, and 117 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 3: with our war on gangs and drugs, how concerning is 118 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: it that a drug kingpin who's behind bars has just 119 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 3: been given a life sentence. This high ranking gang member 120 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: was given the sentence last week after masterminding a two 121 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: hundred kilogram meth deal while in jail. While behind bars, 122 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 3: I thought the point of incarceration was to stop people 123 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 3: committed crimes. Meanwhile, this week, the vice president of the 124 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: Tribesmen is in court and we're hearing tales of his 125 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: alleged lavish lifestyle financed by his alleged sale of methamphetamine. 126 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: The drug which we also heard in the last week 127 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 3: doubled in use last year, and that means it's obviously 128 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 3: doubled in profit, if not more. And all of these 129 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: stories all shows the power and the organization and the 130 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: brains of gangs when it comes to organized crime. And 131 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 3: it's yet another sign that patch bands are just pottering 132 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: around the edges of the gang problem. We've got to 133 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 3: go a lot deeper to cut out this cancer and 134 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: we have a very long and hard road to get 135 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: on top of gangs in this country. 136 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens forteen. 137 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: Minutes after five. Okay, so Brook van Velden's got stuck 138 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: into the health and safety rules. We also hear we're 139 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: going to get a road cone hotline yesterday. So what 140 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: does this mean for you? What changes will happen. We're 141 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: going to talk about this in a moment with a 142 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: guy who is the chairman of the New Zealand Institute 143 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: of Safety Management. It's forteen after five on Newstalk MB. 144 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens al Aveli edition with one roof Make your 145 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: Property Search Simple, Youth talg zibby. 146 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: Yes it is five sixteen. First textan says Andrew, what 147 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: about the green MP? Are you afraid? No, I'm not patience, 148 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about this at five twenty five. 149 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: Of course I'm not afraid. You noble keyboard, worry are you. 150 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about this at five twenty five, 151 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: so that's when more audience is around to hear more 152 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: about it. So there you go. At sixteen after five. 153 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: Workplace health and safety is getting a bit of a facelift. 154 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: The government's announced less tick box health than safety activities 155 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: and there's no longer a need to report minor events. 156 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: So the New Zealand Institute of Safety Management chair Mike 157 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: Cosmon is with me, Hello, Mike morning Andrew. So are 158 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: there any risks in this for our health and safety 159 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: in the workplace? 160 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 161 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 7: I think there are, But more importantly, I think there's 162 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 7: missed opportunities. So a number of the things that the 163 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 7: government has sort of painted as problems I think are 164 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 7: largely imaginary. So there's no requirement to report minor injuries 165 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 7: at the moment, there's no requirement to have signs up 166 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 7: saying hold the handrail or hot water on the hot 167 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 7: water tap. So I think it's created a bit of 168 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 7: a myth, and then it's congratulating itself for cracking that myth, 169 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 7: whereas it's not really addressing the things that are killing 170 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 7: and injuring workers all around the country. You know every day. 171 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: So you seid they missed an opportunity? What are they 172 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: missed other than what would you sayest? 173 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: Well, so the. 174 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 7: Key thing is that we've got industries that we know 175 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 7: are really have this. So this morning I'm going off 176 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 7: to visit some forestry workers. There's nothing in here that's 177 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 7: going to improve safety in the forestry industry or with 178 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 7: any of our other high risk sectors like agriculture and 179 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 7: construction and manufacturing. In fact, it's going to divert work 180 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 7: face attention away from those priorities to manning the Cones hotline. 181 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 7: So all the talk is about reducing the cost of compliance, 182 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 7: but there's nothing in here which actually says how we're 183 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 7: going to improve worker safety, which is really at the 184 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 7: heart of what I believe we should be focusing on. 185 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: Okay, well, I have an example because but then Velden 186 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 3: gave this example in her press release yesterday, and you see, 187 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: for example, a small clothing shop would still need to 188 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 3: provide first aid, emergency plans and basic facilities such as 189 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: suitable lighting, but wouldn't have to need to do a 190 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 3: psychosocial ham policy. Was he correct? Is that a good example? 191 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 7: They don't have to do one anyway unless they are 192 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 7: particularly at risk. So if you were a corner dairy 193 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 7: or a jewelry that's been robbed three times, and your 194 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 7: staff are at risk of both physical and mental harm 195 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 7: because of something the other rises through work, then you 196 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 7: wouldn't just need a policy, but you'd actually need to 197 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 7: support your workers who might be afraid to come to 198 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 7: work and concerned about the risks. So no, I think 199 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 7: that again is a misnomer. There's very little that actually 200 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 7: is required to be written down in law, but often 201 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 7: people get this idea that they have to do it 202 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 7: because of this mythical threat from Work Safe or whatever. 203 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 7: So I think fundamentally the problem is that we lack current, 204 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 7: easy to access, up to date guidance that tells people 205 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 7: in simple terms what it is they do need to 206 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 7: do and what they don't need to do, and that's 207 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 7: been recognized for over ten years that there's a massive gap. 208 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 7: Work Safe themselves say that they've got hundreds of pieces 209 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 7: of guidance that are out of date and they don't 210 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 7: have the resources to fix them. 211 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 3: Mike, I thank you so much for your expertise. Today 212 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: there's my Cosmin from the Institute of Safety Management. Certainly 213 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: though gets a good headline for the government. Five nineteen now, 214 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: the Commerce Commission sent a report out about the charges 215 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: at Aucland Airport and said that they've been overcharging. They 216 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: said there was nothing dodgy about it, but at the 217 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 3: same time certainly excessive and wouldn't you know it, the 218 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: airport worked on it over the weekend and suddenly the 219 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 3: charges have been reduced. We'll talk about this story next 220 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: here on News Talks AB. 221 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: The News you Need this morning and the in Depth 222 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: Analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make 223 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: your Property Search Simple News Talk said. 224 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: B five twenty two, The Commerce Commission says Orcand Airport's 225 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: been overcharging airlines by one hundred and ninety million dollars 226 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 3: since twenty twenty three. So where did the airlines get 227 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 3: that money from your airfares? This year's price increase won't 228 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: be as big as initially planned. After the findings were released, 229 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: New Zealand Airport's Association Chief executive Billy Moore is with me. 230 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 3: Good morning to you, Billy, Good morning. So there's a 231 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 3: lot of money one hundred and ninety million dollars. How 232 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: did no one notice? 233 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 4: Oh? 234 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 8: Look, this is part of the process, and I know 235 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 8: it sounds a bit boring, but it's true. So the 236 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 8: Commus Commission has come out with its judgment and aukind 237 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 8: the airport has responded immediately to lower its prices for 238 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 8: the rest of the period. And so what that means 239 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 8: is that there won't be overcharging for the period because 240 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 8: they'll be compensating for that one hundred and ninety million 241 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 8: for the rest of that pricing period, so it will 242 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 8: eat it out. It wasn't unexpected in terms of the 243 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 8: feedback from the Commission because of how long these processes take. 244 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 8: The Auckland the airport team had had to use a 245 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 8: previous version of what we call the Commerce Commission's input methodologies, 246 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 8: which helps them figure out what the right rate of 247 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 8: return for their own viases should be. That meant that 248 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 8: the Commission was bound to have some feedback on that. 249 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 8: They've given that feedback and the airport has made those adjustments. 250 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 8: So that's what the system is. 251 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: Supposed to do exactly. But you know, the airport received 252 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: the final report from the ComCom on Friday. They worked 253 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: out for the weekend. They revised its costs downs just 254 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: like that on a Monday. So does that suggest they 255 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: already knew they were guilding the lily. 256 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 9: Well. 257 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 8: The draft report have been released in July last year 258 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 8: already kind of indicating the Commerce Commission's direction of travel, 259 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 8: so that gave a bit of an indication quite well 260 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 8: in advance. Then there was a cross submission process. Again 261 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 8: it sounds a bit boring, but that means that everyone, 262 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 8: including the airlines and the airports, provide more feedback to 263 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 8: the Commission to make sure that they're coming out with 264 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 8: the right call so that they were ready to respond. 265 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 8: But it's not unexpected that. 266 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 3: They would be okay. But you know, the perception therefore 267 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 3: is that the airport's trying to get away with as 268 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: much as it can. 269 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 8: Look I disagree when you might expect. Look, fundamentally, we'd 270 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 8: have to build infrastructure in this country, and there's two 271 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 8: things that we need to get there done which the 272 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 8: airport has been focusing on. The few is a stable 273 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 8: regulation for investors to see that the system is stable 274 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 8: and working. And second is I fear rate of return. 275 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 8: Otherwise the airport can't raise the funds for this essential infrastructure. 276 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 8: So part of this process is about working with the 277 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 8: Commission and providing all the information on the table transparently 278 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 8: so that we can get to that what is that 279 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 8: right rate of return for a long running investment like 280 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 8: an airport. 281 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: So you would say you would say that even though 282 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: they overcharge U by one hundred and ninety million dollars 283 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, this is proof that the regulatory 284 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: system is actually working acceptably. 285 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 8: That's right, because the Commission's come out with this a 286 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 8: judgment and the airport has adjusted. That's how the system's 287 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 8: supposed to work. Yes, they went too high, but they 288 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 8: have made the adjustment and that will all smooth out. 289 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: For early Superior Billy, I thank you so much for 290 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: you for your time today. News Storks be I mean, 291 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: you know you want them to get it right. You 292 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 3: want it to be absolutely transparent, and you don't need 293 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: to have a report and then wait six months for 294 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: them to change, do you. Five to twenty five new 295 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: Storks at B The Curious Case of Benjamin Doyle. 296 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: Next the Early Edition Full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 297 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: by News Talk zipp z B. 298 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: It is our five twenty seven. I'm Andrew Dickens. The 299 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: Ferrari surrounding Benjamin Doyle. The Green MP is something that's 300 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: been swelling around social media over the weekend as a 301 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: story that Annie O'Brien uncovered weeks ago. When St. Peter's 302 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: has now brought it to the attention of the country, 303 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: it's something we have to talk about. When Simpeter's immediately 304 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: said it was the fault of the media for not 305 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: exposing this earlier. No, this story is about Benjamin Doyle 306 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: and the Greens. Now. Doyle is a gay Green MP 307 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: who uses the pronouns of they and them. Before he 308 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: was an MP, he posted using gay terminology that referred 309 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: to sexual activity. It's vulgar language. But by the time 310 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: he was an MP, he had deleted those posts, knowing 311 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: that it could be used against him, sorry or them, 312 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: pardon against them, But nothing on the websdays, and someone 313 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: has saved them as ammunition, ammunition that Winston Peters has 314 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: now fired in public now. I don't know when Benjamin 315 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: Doyle decided that he wanted to embark on a life 316 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: in public governance and in the public eye, but his 317 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: casual use of social media back then is something he 318 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: should have known about. It will be the same for 319 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: any hetero politician. We don't need to know anything about 320 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: your sexual life when you're in public office. That sort 321 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: of stuff is low lying fruit that politicians like Winston 322 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: Peters sees on the fact that it's resulted in hate 323 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: speech on Doyle as bad. But was Doyle so naive 324 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: that he they never thought about this before he they 325 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 3: came to the attention of the antiwoke world. Goodness me, 326 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: it is a slutary lesson to all on public life. 327 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear. 328 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: Benjamin Doyle has plenty to hide. It's a lesson to 329 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: the Green Party that they're mentoring of their candidates, their 330 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: choosing of their candidates, and their vetting of the candidates 331 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: leaves a lot to be desired. And then yesterday's defense 332 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 3: of Doyle's language alienates a lot of people or who 333 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: may otherwise vote for them. I mean, Benjamin's obviously got 334 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 3: to go, doesn't he. And this is also a reminder 335 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: to everybody that Winston Peters will say anything if he 336 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: thinks there's enough votes in it to get him over 337 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 3: the five percent threshold. Ye really. Now I'm going to 338 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 3: talk about the April first because it is April the first. 339 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 3: There's a lot about April the first that are not 340 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: the Fool's Day, going to talk about rope cones. 341 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 6: I'm going to talk. 342 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 3: About Marie La Penn. I'm going to talk to Donna Tamayo. 343 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: A whole heap more to come in the next half hour. 344 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 3: This is Early Edition. I'm Andrew Dickens News Talks. 345 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 9: It be. 346 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day. Early 347 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: Edition with Andrew Dickens and One Room, Make Your Property 348 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 1: Search and Simple. 349 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: You talk sippy, don't you? 350 00:17:55,480 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 10: America wants your favorite told American. 351 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: Service. 352 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: Very deal? Is it a good one? What do we 353 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: know about it? We're going to talk about this sis 354 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 3: before six you can text me. Ninety two ninety two 355 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 3: Clive has written in saying that Benjamin Doyle must go 356 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: under the woke tyranny. Many have lost their positions for 357 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: past statements going back to school years, and this is true. 358 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 3: How many people have we seen where the past comes 359 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 3: back to bite them? This is a past coming back 360 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 3: to bite Benjamin and Clive says we don't need Chloe 361 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: and her perverts and government that yes, they've defended the 362 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 3: entire thing. Someone says, what a take? Did you just 363 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 3: accuse Winston of running this? No, I said Winston brought 364 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: it up in public, and that's a good thing, of 365 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: course it is. It is a discussion thing, and that's 366 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 3: the way it should work. Now, welcome to April the First. 367 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 3: I've long abandoned any desire to play a prank on 368 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 3: the radio. God I hate April Falls pranks on the radio, 369 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 3: mainly because of the climate of fake news that is 370 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: around these days. You don't need any more bes in 371 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 3: your life, so I'm not doing that. Reading the this morning, 372 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: I was going, there must be an April Fools pranking 373 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: here somewhere, but I couldn't tell whether the story was 374 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: a prank or just part of the crazy world we 375 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: live in these days. Yesterday I heard Donald Trump refusing 376 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 3: to deny that he will find some way around getting 377 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 3: a third term in office, and I thought, well, that 378 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: must be an April Fool's joke, But no, it was 379 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: a day early. What I can tell you about April 380 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 3: First is this today, when the tax cuts finally click in. 381 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 3: I hesitate to call them tax cuts because it's really 382 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: a moving of the threshold, so it's more of an 383 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: inflation adjustment. Whatever you will pay less tax from today. 384 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 3: I'll be interested to hear if you notice any difference, 385 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: I feel free to email me to consider New Storks 386 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: b or Text Week ninety two ninety two will look 387 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: at this over the week. You're going to need those 388 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: tax cuts, by the way, because plenty goes up in 389 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: price today. Power prices go up ten dollars a month 390 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: today on average for New Zealand households. I hope that 391 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 3: tax cuts big enough. The minimum wage is going up today, 392 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 3: impacting all the medium businesses the most, and of course 393 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 3: the benefits are going up between two to three percent today. 394 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 3: Happy April Fools Day to you, Andrew Dickas let's go 395 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 3: around the country. Callen Proctor joins u's good morning Callum 396 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 3: morning Andrew. So Dunedin has an iconic fashion event. To 397 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 3: me about it? 398 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's ID Fashion Week starting today. That's no April Falls. 399 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 10: Contains a week full of activities, exhibitions, pop up shops, 400 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 10: designer events and of course the two big runway shows 401 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 10: at the railway station Friday and Saturday. This is expected 402 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 10: to boost the local economy. The twenty twenty three event 403 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 10: broad in just over ten million dollars. It's every two 404 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 10: years now. Organizers say the event brings a large number 405 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 10: of visitors to town and retailers believe it's busier than Christmas. 406 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 10: They say many established designers will be on show, as 407 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 10: well as polytech graduates and also some high school students. 408 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 10: Designs will feature for the first time. 409 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, the railway station event is awesome. If anyone wants 410 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: to mighten me anytime, I'd love to come down. How's 411 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: the weather for ddedan. 412 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 10: Cloudy today, some evening drizzle possible like winds and seventeen. 413 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 3: And I thank you Chrishia. It joins me from Canterbury. Hello, 414 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 3: good morning. So we're saying farewell to a Canterbury tourism stalwart. 415 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 11: Yes, hand Mahs brings Simil Pools and Spa is saying 416 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 11: goodbye to its general manager of twenty five years, Graham Abbott. 417 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 11: It's funny you mention April first today, Andrew, because when 418 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 11: I spoke with Graham last week, the irony of the 419 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 11: timing of his final day was not lost on him. 420 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 11: But look, his impact there is far from a joke. 421 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 11: In his twenty five years, he's increased the annual visitor 422 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 11: numbers by eighty percent. Turn Over there at Hanmer's Pools 423 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 11: has grown from three million dollars to fourteen million. Abbot, though, 424 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 11: says what he's most proud of is quite cliche. He 425 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 11: says that's the team that he's built and the fact 426 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 11: that staff members arrived there and feel looked after and 427 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 11: a part of something really special. He's handing the reins 428 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 11: today to Canterbury born and bred Sarah Wiblam. She was 429 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 11: previously the general manager of the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron. 430 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 3: Okay, how's Wellington's with him? Christchurch is we're the Sorry, 431 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: I'm jumping ahead to myself to get hit. 432 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 11: Cloudy with occasional drizzle from this afternoon easterlies in the 433 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 11: highest nineteen. 434 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 3: Okay, look my producer shouted christ Church and Meavick shouted 435 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 3: christ Church. I know, I'm sorry, Wellington, next toll, good morning, 436 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: good morning. Got a new contender in the mail race. 437 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills had an exclusive announcement 438 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 6: yesterday a new entry into the Meryll race. Not the 439 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 6: man himself, Contrary to speculation, this is Cafe Ice owner 440 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 6: Carl Tiefenbaker, who is running as an independent on a 441 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 6: platform of changing council culture, keeping rates down, stopping wasteful spending, 442 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 6: he's sort of senter center right, joining councilor Ray Shung 443 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 6: as a potentially viable opponent to Tori Fino. Still yet 444 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 6: to have a big name shake things up though Labor, 445 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 6: for instance, haven't been able to find anyone despite asking 446 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 6: one term of Justin Leicster. Mark Sainsbury has been rumored. 447 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 6: FitzSimons was rumored for a time. Tiefenbaker has been unsuccessfully 448 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 6: running for council a couple of times, although he did 449 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 6: get very close in a by election against a Green 450 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 6: candidate last year. 451 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: Fantastic sayings So actually wrote a very good piece about 452 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 3: why he should go for the mayoral sea So that's wonderful. 453 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: So how's Christians is weather today? 454 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 6: Wellington's mainly fine, southerly's a high of twenty central April four, neve. 455 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: A ready man, A good morning, Good morning. The governments 456 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 3: announced the next two Chatter schools to open. 457 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 12: Yes here in Auckland, so Associate Education Minister David Seymour says, 458 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 12: Totada Park School and Twin Oaks Classical School. I think 459 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 12: this is in Royal Oak. They will join the seven 460 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 12: schools which have already opened. So Twin Oaks will cater 461 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 12: for year one to nine students. That's when it opens 462 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 12: in July, growing to year thirteen by twenty twenty seven. 463 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 12: Students will spend the first three days of the week 464 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 12: at school and then the last two days learning from home. 465 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 12: Totada Park will open in Tumbe one next year, beginning 466 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 12: with years one to four before expanding up to year 467 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 12: six in twenty twenty seven. Housalkands weather okay with partly 468 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 12: cloudy conditions still warmed twenty five is are high here. 469 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 3: In Auckland seventeen to six. So there's going to be 470 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: a rod cone hotline. We talked about this earlier. Now, 471 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 3: my neighbor hates road cones. He's one of those guys 472 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 3: I hate the road cones. But he's redoing his driveway 473 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 3: and work has stopped and apparently he can't decide on 474 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 3: the surface so nothing's happening. So to stop anyone trampling 475 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 3: all over the site, he's put up five traffic cones. 476 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: And I said, Steve Irony, mate, he didn't laugh. Traffic 477 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: cones are not the devil. They save lives and prevent 478 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: injury to road workers. The issue is when road cones 479 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 3: are preventing is not when roade cones are preventing workers 480 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: from harm. But when there are no workers there, often 481 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: for days, that's when we start hating the road cones 482 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: because the workers aren't there. It's about the workers, not 483 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 3: the cones. But the road cone industry has exploded, and 484 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 3: the road coness will argue rightly that they are just 485 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 3: complying with the health and safety laws. But as we 486 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 3: heard earlier today, a lot of people imagine the health 487 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: and safety laws and go too far. So I find 488 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 3: the fat warre again road cones a little bit childish 489 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: on the surface. But you know, we know that people 490 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: get triggered just at the side of one, and I 491 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 3: choose to think of them as a beacon that something 492 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 3: is getting better, and it's amazing when they're gone, how 493 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 3: quickly we take the new improved infrastructure for granted and 494 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 3: enjoy the benefit. So it's not the rod cone and 495 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 3: it's the worker that's not there that's the problem. That 496 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: is sixteen to six. Donald Demayo from Australia is next. 497 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: It's News Talk. 498 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: Zeb International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance. Peace of 499 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: mind for New Zealand business. 500 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 3: After Australia, we go Dona Tomayo, Good morning to you. 501 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 13: Good morning, So. 502 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: ALBINIZI has been responding about that Chinese research ship which 503 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 3: is traveling in new waters. 504 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 13: Yes, well, Australian agencies now monitoring this high tech Chinese 505 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 13: research ship which actually also operates a deep sea submersible vessel. 506 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 13: Now where is it now? It's making its way through 507 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 13: southern Australian waters. So tracking websites and agencies as I mentioned, 508 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 13: have tracked the ship passing the Victorian coastline recently. 509 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 8: Now it did just. 510 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 13: Complete joint surveys with New Zealand, as we know. The 511 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 13: Prime Minister was asked about the ship while he was 512 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 13: visiting Perth and his response was he'd prefer the ship 513 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 13: wasn't in Australian waters, but suggests that China isn't breaking 514 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 13: any international laws. And he also says that, as he 515 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 13: put it, we live in circumstances where just as Australia 516 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 13: has vessels in the South China Sea and vessels in 517 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 13: the Taiwan Strait, this vessel is here. He also says 518 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 13: he will make sure that we represent Australian interests as 519 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 13: he said it, and has every confidence and he repeated 520 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 13: that every confidence in our defense force and security agencies. 521 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 13: Now this comes just a few weeks after China's navy 522 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 13: conducted an unprecedented circumnavigation of much of Australia. 523 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: If it's the fine art of brickmanship. Now you have 524 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 3: a growing diabetes epidemic. 525 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 13: Yes, well, how many Australian adults have diabetes? New data 526 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 13: has been released by the Australian Bureau of Statistics Health 527 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 13: Measures Survey, and I think this is quite a army. 528 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 13: One in fifteen Australians have diabetes. Now, that is an 529 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 13: increase of about one point five percent compared to a 530 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 13: decade ago, so that makes it to oh more than well, 531 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 13: I think it is about one point three million Aussies 532 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 13: have diabetes. Men more likely to have diabetes and women. 533 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 13: Adults living in the most disadvantaged areas are more likely 534 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 13: to have diabetes. And interestingly, I found that Diabetes Australia 535 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 13: Chief Executive Justin Kane says there's actually a stigma around 536 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 13: even speaking about it, so some people are very uncomfortable 537 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 13: about saying that they have diabetes. Hence they're not getting 538 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 13: the support and the treatment that they may need. So 539 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 13: she's saying we need to ditch the stigma and the 540 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 13: data also showed that there's a growing number of Aussies 541 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 13: with high cholesterol and also vitamin deficiencies. 542 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: And I thank you Dinand Tomayow it is now eleven 543 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 3: to six. Okay, we got a little bit more out 544 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 3: of the government on the cook Straight firies to you, 545 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 3: but not whole heap. It's agreed to go forward with 546 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 3: Winston Peter's proposal, which will include road and rail decks 547 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 3: and capacity for fifteen hundred passengers. Some say though the 548 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: capacity we will be less than we currently have. He says. 549 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 3: The plan has two new theories, crossing Cooks Straight by 550 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: Christmas twenty twenty nine, which is where our old ferries 551 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 3: basically run out of life, and it claims he claimed anyway, 552 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 3: that it will be ultimately cheaper than the last government's option. 553 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: So I'm joined now by Rail and Maritime Transport Union 554 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 3: spokesperson Todd Volster. 555 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: Hello Todd, good morning. 556 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: We still don't know how much is this going to cost, 557 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: particularly particularly port side, So what's your pick? 558 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 9: Look, the good news is there well, idle, that's the 559 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 9: main thing. So you know, we can't get past that. 560 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 9: It was going towards the monster Advisory. 561 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 3: Groups Yeah, that was my third question. My question is 562 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 3: how much is this going to cost in your extremansion. 563 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 9: Look, it's completely unknown. We don't know what the breakout 564 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 9: costs with HE and I is, whether they were able 565 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 9: to make a deal or whether there's a deal there 566 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 9: with with High and Die around the canceled ferries. So 567 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 9: that's completely unknown what it's going to cost. That'll come 568 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 9: out if. 569 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: We don't know what a deal costs. If we don't 570 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 3: know what a deal costs, do we really have a deal? 571 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 9: Well, they're saying that it's commercially sensitive. They can't say 572 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 9: how much's going to cost because that would that would 573 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 9: alter the bidding arrangement. So you know, the main takeaway 574 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 9: is they're rail enabled and we weren't going to get 575 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 9: male enabled. But we can't go past how long this 576 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 9: has taken. I REX was very very drawn out and 577 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 9: then we've had sixteen months of limbo about what's going 578 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 9: to happen in the future. It's been very disturbing for 579 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 9: my members, my rail maritime transport members working out of 580 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 9: tempt in both Bonington and Pickton. So yeah, the sure 581 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 9: side thing is definitely a concern. They're saying that they'll 582 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 9: take the up a little bit, but it needs to 583 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 9: be more modest than what the Irax project was. But 584 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 9: how modest is it going to be? 585 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 3: Well exactly, they say a rebuild and picton because that's 586 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 3: really behind, but just a revamp of Wellington. But I 587 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: understood that Wellington the because there was making it earthquake proof. 588 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, that was definitely a concern. It was also making 589 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 9: it one hundred year asset that it didn't need to be, 590 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 9: So you know, it's fair to say that there was 591 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 9: the infrastructure on land that blew things out. The deal 592 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 9: for the boats was an ex fond deal. The original deal. 593 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 9: People talked about Ferraris and Toyotas or something or Corollas, 594 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 9: but it was never The concern around the boat build itself. 595 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: Was still on the port side. It's all in the 596 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: port side, all the port side, so they reckon the 597 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 3: boats are here by twenty twenty nine. There's an awful 598 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: lot of construction work that would have to happen so 599 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: that they can dock. Do you think the whole thing 600 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: is achievable? And also the current boats end of life 601 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: is twenty twenty nine, so we're cutting it pretty fine. 602 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 9: Right to the edge. Those boats are probably nearly three 603 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 9: decades old by that started, so it's definitely taking it 604 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 9: to the edge. I understand from what Monster peace All 605 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 9: was saying yesterday is that there has been significant surveys 606 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 9: of the boats and recommendations on how to keep them 607 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 9: going for that long. But you know just as well, 608 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 9: we're not an aviation running around with city of your 609 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 9: old planes. 610 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 3: And I thank you for your turn to a volster. 611 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 3: Tell Volster from the Rail and Maritime Union on the deal, 612 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: and I repeat, if we don't know what it's going 613 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 3: to cost, do we really have a deal. But you're 614 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: commercially sensitive And as seven Minister sexcess news talks at. 615 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: B get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew 616 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: Dickens and One Room Make your Property Search Simple news talks. 617 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 3: That'd be got a texture of morning. Andrew. I listened 618 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: to your interview earlier about the airport charges of the 619 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 3: ComCom and the overcharging, and I could not believe what 620 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 3: I was hearing. I work in the industry, and the 621 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 3: airlines have been telling the airport company that their charges 622 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: are extreme for more than five years and the airport 623 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: company have done nothing but ignored them. Auckland airport is 624 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 3: without doubt being gouging airlines and therefore gouging travelers monopolistic behavior, 625 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 3: no better than the supermarkets. My cosking aboarding to him. 626 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 3: That is why we have the Commerce Commission. Of course, Yes, 627 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: and we'll talk to the airport about that this morning, 628 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 3: and we'll talk to Winston. Can you answer the question, 629 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 3: what's happened? What did Winston Peters do yesterday that Nikola 630 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 3: Willis didn't or couldn't have done? Nothing? 631 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 14: Literally? What's he done? What's he achieved? In the three five? 632 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: I'm find the plan so vague? Really, I just asked 633 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 3: the guy, is a deal really a deal if you 634 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 3: know nothing about it? 635 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: No? 636 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 14: I mean I understand to the point where I mean 637 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 14: you can't. You can't have a tend to process out 638 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 14: in the open otherwise everyone knows what everyone else is 639 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 14: bidding for. And I understand that part. But I mean, 640 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 14: so what he announced yesterday were a couple of ships 641 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 14: slightly an't than what we've got no infrastructure, and so 642 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 14: that's fine, no problem with that. But what see Willis 643 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 14: had that job for a year, a whole year. What 644 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 14: did she do in that time? I don't apart from 645 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 14: cancel ires and then they give him the job for 646 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 14: three months and all he can come up with, I 647 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 14: will do two ships and we'll have a tend to things. 648 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 3: What we were doing. 649 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 14: You could have done that in a minute and a half. 650 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 14: It's like the supermarket thing the other day. What did 651 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 14: they announce that they haven't or couldn't have died? And 652 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 14: by wringing up a couple of people like the warehouse 653 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 14: and going do you have problems expanding? 654 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: How can we help make you keep going down this track? 655 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 3: If someone's going to turn around to you and say, Okay, 656 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 3: you're in charge, and then you're going to have to 657 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 3: do it. 658 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 14: Things are going to be different when I'm in charge, 659 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 14: very very different. There's going to be three terms, and 660 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 14: there will be three terms. Joe Parker is coming in 661 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 14: today and I'm looking forward to catching up with him 662 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 14: and trying to work our way through the heavyweight division 663 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 14: as to who's there, who's available when he's going to 664 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 14: fight them, How many crowns can you get? Et cetera, 665 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 14: et cetera, et cetera. So anyway we'll catch up with him, 666 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 14: that'd be great. 667 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 3: He's a lovely, nice guy, big hands, big smile, my 668 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 3: name's Andrew Dickins. Thanks to producer Kenzie, I will see 669 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 3: you again tomorrow. Goodbye, why. 670 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 12: Whatever. 671 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 672 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, or 673 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.