1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,787 Speaker 1: from News Talk ZEDB. 3 00:00:12,787 --> 00:00:16,467 Speaker 2: Can claim Netball's Constellation Cup tonight if they win the 4 00:00:16,507 --> 00:00:19,867 Speaker 2: third Test against Australia. This game is in Perth nine 5 00:00:19,867 --> 00:00:22,667 Speaker 2: o'clock New Zealand time. New Zealand of course won the 6 00:00:22,707 --> 00:00:26,507 Speaker 2: first two Constellation Cup tests here in New Zealand and 7 00:00:26,627 --> 00:00:27,387 Speaker 2: miss Sister. 8 00:00:27,227 --> 00:00:33,867 Speaker 1: Shot Jackson's got the rebound game over New Zealand. Comprehensive 9 00:00:33,947 --> 00:00:35,507 Speaker 1: winners over. 10 00:00:35,347 --> 00:00:37,867 Speaker 3: Australia for the second game. 11 00:00:37,627 --> 00:00:38,227 Speaker 2: In a row. 12 00:00:38,827 --> 00:00:43,067 Speaker 1: Again is he leven? Sixty three goals to fifty two, 13 00:00:43,787 --> 00:00:47,347 Speaker 1: another comprehensive win and they're backed up. 14 00:00:47,667 --> 00:00:50,867 Speaker 3: They are impressive victory and willing to be gone. They've 15 00:00:50,907 --> 00:00:51,547 Speaker 3: done it again. 16 00:00:51,707 --> 00:00:54,187 Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome Jordan Levon. Willaring have the call for you 17 00:00:54,267 --> 00:00:57,307 Speaker 2: tonight on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio from nine o'clock sixty 18 00:00:57,387 --> 00:01:00,067 Speaker 2: three to fifty two in the second Test following the 19 00:01:00,187 --> 00:01:03,507 Speaker 2: sixty four fifty victory and Test number one, can they 20 00:01:04,027 --> 00:01:06,627 Speaker 2: continue that winning form On the other side of the 21 00:01:06,627 --> 00:01:09,827 Speaker 2: Tasman Silver Fern's mid quarter Cami Order Poy joins us 22 00:01:09,867 --> 00:01:12,267 Speaker 2: out of Western Australia. Cimi Order, thanks for taking the 23 00:01:12,307 --> 00:01:13,667 Speaker 2: time for a chat on game day. What was the 24 00:01:13,667 --> 00:01:16,747 Speaker 2: most pleasing aspect for the players and the coaching staff 25 00:01:16,747 --> 00:01:19,427 Speaker 2: from those first two Test match victories. 26 00:01:20,507 --> 00:01:24,827 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think actually we've been saying we've been training 27 00:01:24,827 --> 00:01:28,067 Speaker 3: well and everything leading into a sort of England and 28 00:01:28,107 --> 00:01:29,507 Speaker 3: then post England training well. 29 00:01:29,387 --> 00:01:30,187 Speaker 4: Had been going good. 30 00:01:30,547 --> 00:01:33,547 Speaker 3: But the most pleasing thing is transferring that onto the 31 00:01:33,587 --> 00:01:35,907 Speaker 3: court and getting a good start and kind of getting 32 00:01:35,947 --> 00:01:36,987 Speaker 3: on top of the ossies early. 33 00:01:37,347 --> 00:01:39,227 Speaker 4: Yeah, just to build that momentum. 34 00:01:38,787 --> 00:01:41,307 Speaker 2: For our Well, why do you think that was harder 35 00:01:41,347 --> 00:01:44,747 Speaker 2: to achieve during the Tiny Jameson Trophy series that preceded 36 00:01:44,947 --> 00:01:47,787 Speaker 2: the Constellation Cup when you went down to one to England. 37 00:01:49,947 --> 00:01:52,827 Speaker 3: I honestly don't know, but maybe just a bit of 38 00:01:52,907 --> 00:01:56,387 Speaker 3: time leading into Tiny Jameson where we're only like we 39 00:01:56,467 --> 00:01:58,907 Speaker 3: only had a four day camp kind of as a team, 40 00:01:58,947 --> 00:02:01,707 Speaker 3: but we've had that whole series to build and prepare 41 00:02:01,787 --> 00:02:04,267 Speaker 3: and get some good learnings and then yeah, we're able 42 00:02:04,307 --> 00:02:06,227 Speaker 3: to kind of put it off here they come Test 43 00:02:06,387 --> 00:02:07,467 Speaker 3: and then too against Ozzie. 44 00:02:07,827 --> 00:02:10,107 Speaker 2: So now then big question, how do you keep that 45 00:02:10,187 --> 00:02:12,907 Speaker 2: momentum going now that you're on the other side of 46 00:02:12,947 --> 00:02:13,387 Speaker 2: the testment. 47 00:02:14,267 --> 00:02:17,667 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a balancing act of taking confidence 48 00:02:17,747 --> 00:02:20,267 Speaker 3: from our first two tests that we've put out, but 49 00:02:20,307 --> 00:02:23,667 Speaker 3: then also expecting Ossie to come out firing again and 50 00:02:23,787 --> 00:02:26,547 Speaker 3: just kind of being real disciplined in the early stages 51 00:02:26,587 --> 00:02:29,347 Speaker 3: of the match, just to kind of keep at our 52 00:02:29,387 --> 00:02:32,067 Speaker 3: game and yeah, and just really going out there. 53 00:02:31,947 --> 00:02:32,747 Speaker 4: And backing ourselves. 54 00:02:32,947 --> 00:02:35,147 Speaker 2: I guess the other difference is they'll have their home 55 00:02:35,187 --> 00:02:37,987 Speaker 2: crowd behind them over here, and the two tests in 56 00:02:38,107 --> 00:02:40,307 Speaker 2: New Zealand y had great crowds, didn't you. How much 57 00:02:40,307 --> 00:02:42,907 Speaker 2: do you feed off the energy of home crowds. 58 00:02:43,467 --> 00:02:46,787 Speaker 4: Yeah, both arenas were massive for us. 59 00:02:47,227 --> 00:02:50,627 Speaker 3: The crowds were so loud, the energy, the vibe. Yeah, 60 00:02:50,627 --> 00:02:52,827 Speaker 3: it was just so awesome and we've got to find 61 00:02:52,947 --> 00:02:56,187 Speaker 3: that energy within ourselves and our bench. When we're over 62 00:02:56,187 --> 00:02:58,427 Speaker 3: here in Ozzie, there will be a few ki spread 63 00:02:58,427 --> 00:03:00,307 Speaker 3: throughout the crowd, but yeah, we've just got to find that. 64 00:03:00,347 --> 00:03:02,387 Speaker 2: With an you always get a couple of sneaking in, 65 00:03:02,427 --> 00:03:04,267 Speaker 2: that's for sure. Give you order. How much of you 66 00:03:04,427 --> 00:03:08,107 Speaker 2: enjoyed your mid court combine with Maddy Gordon in the 67 00:03:08,107 --> 00:03:09,267 Speaker 2: first couple of tests. 68 00:03:09,907 --> 00:03:12,987 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been so cool. I think it's cool just 69 00:03:13,027 --> 00:03:15,587 Speaker 3: to see the growth that we've had kind of from 70 00:03:15,627 --> 00:03:17,987 Speaker 3: training and then putting it into the game. She's obviously 71 00:03:18,107 --> 00:03:20,507 Speaker 3: that energize the bunny just goes hard right to the end, 72 00:03:21,027 --> 00:03:23,307 Speaker 3: real dog it on defense, and yeah, it just kind 73 00:03:23,307 --> 00:03:25,147 Speaker 3: of dominates that center position. 74 00:03:25,307 --> 00:03:27,547 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's been real cool and home when you're texting. 75 00:03:27,627 --> 00:03:29,387 Speaker 4: Actually quite nice. A little bit of a change. 76 00:03:29,507 --> 00:03:32,147 Speaker 2: Oh that's good. Yeah, well, wing attack not exactly your 77 00:03:32,227 --> 00:03:33,987 Speaker 2: your favorite position. I'll ask you that in a minute. 78 00:03:33,987 --> 00:03:36,347 Speaker 2: Actually about if you do have a preference, But does 79 00:03:36,387 --> 00:03:39,547 Speaker 2: it take a bit of time to establish the connections 80 00:03:39,627 --> 00:03:42,187 Speaker 2: with the others when you come together. You play against 81 00:03:42,187 --> 00:03:43,707 Speaker 2: one another for the first part of the year, when 82 00:03:43,707 --> 00:03:45,187 Speaker 2: you come together, does it take a bit of time 83 00:03:45,187 --> 00:03:47,347 Speaker 2: to establish those connections. 84 00:03:47,707 --> 00:03:48,627 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it does. 85 00:03:48,667 --> 00:03:51,467 Speaker 3: It takes a little while just to kind of figure 86 00:03:51,467 --> 00:03:53,787 Speaker 3: each other out and know where each other is going 87 00:03:53,787 --> 00:03:55,187 Speaker 3: to run and how we like the ball and all 88 00:03:55,187 --> 00:03:55,907 Speaker 3: of that sort of thing. 89 00:03:56,467 --> 00:03:59,387 Speaker 4: But yeah, just pleasing how the growth that we've had 90 00:03:59,787 --> 00:04:00,307 Speaker 4: as a team. 91 00:04:00,347 --> 00:04:04,147 Speaker 2: Actually, so, do you have a preferred mid court position? 92 00:04:05,307 --> 00:04:09,347 Speaker 3: I actually for first time to but I'm obviously grateful 93 00:04:09,387 --> 00:04:11,867 Speaker 3: to be on the court and playing in any position. 94 00:04:12,307 --> 00:04:15,507 Speaker 2: Yeah, And apart from the fact, you know, we obviously 95 00:04:15,507 --> 00:04:17,467 Speaker 2: know where the different positions are allowed to go on 96 00:04:17,507 --> 00:04:18,867 Speaker 2: the court and that sort of thing. But what are 97 00:04:18,907 --> 00:04:22,627 Speaker 2: the other key differences between playing center and playing wing 98 00:04:22,667 --> 00:04:23,267 Speaker 2: attack as you. 99 00:04:23,267 --> 00:04:27,267 Speaker 3: Have been Yeah, wing attacks you kind of have to 100 00:04:27,307 --> 00:04:30,387 Speaker 3: be more directive and run the whole attacking and run 101 00:04:30,427 --> 00:04:33,027 Speaker 3: the center passes and you've got got to take the 102 00:04:33,107 --> 00:04:35,507 Speaker 3: lead and n center. You're more of that linking role well, 103 00:04:35,547 --> 00:04:38,227 Speaker 3: especially on attack, and that's kind of what I've been 104 00:04:38,307 --> 00:04:40,947 Speaker 3: used to. So I've just taken like I've taken a 105 00:04:40,947 --> 00:04:43,427 Speaker 3: little bit of time to find my feet just in 106 00:04:43,427 --> 00:04:45,627 Speaker 3: that real commanding wing attacked position. 107 00:04:45,747 --> 00:04:45,947 Speaker 4: Yeah. 108 00:04:46,267 --> 00:04:48,667 Speaker 2: And of course part of it too is feeding into 109 00:04:48,747 --> 00:04:50,587 Speaker 2: the shooting circle, which I guess you do as a 110 00:04:50,587 --> 00:04:52,147 Speaker 2: center as well. But how nice is it to look 111 00:04:52,147 --> 00:04:55,547 Speaker 2: into that circle and see Grace and wiki in there? 112 00:04:55,827 --> 00:04:59,107 Speaker 3: Yeah? Very nice. Say, it just gives you huge confidence 113 00:04:59,147 --> 00:05:01,387 Speaker 3: when she's really giving you the eyes and she really 114 00:05:01,387 --> 00:05:02,707 Speaker 3: wants the ball, because it makes you want to just 115 00:05:02,787 --> 00:05:03,427 Speaker 3: let it go to her. 116 00:05:03,947 --> 00:05:05,507 Speaker 2: You were out of this team for a little while, 117 00:05:05,747 --> 00:05:08,587 Speaker 2: a couple of years is almost actually you're back in now. 118 00:05:08,627 --> 00:05:11,107 Speaker 2: Of course, how determined where you can in order to 119 00:05:11,267 --> 00:05:14,627 Speaker 2: return to the international fold out after being out for 120 00:05:14,627 --> 00:05:16,067 Speaker 2: the last couple of years. 121 00:05:16,627 --> 00:05:19,427 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's always been at the back of 122 00:05:19,467 --> 00:05:23,147 Speaker 3: my mind. But the way because I've been not selected 123 00:05:23,187 --> 00:05:25,747 Speaker 3: for a few years, the way I've approached that non 124 00:05:25,747 --> 00:05:28,867 Speaker 3: selection has kind of changed over the years, and the 125 00:05:29,027 --> 00:05:31,467 Speaker 3: last year or so, I've just kind of been just 126 00:05:31,907 --> 00:05:34,467 Speaker 3: it is what it is, it's meant to be, It 127 00:05:34,707 --> 00:05:36,627 Speaker 3: meant it's meant to be, and yeah, just kind of 128 00:05:36,667 --> 00:05:38,107 Speaker 3: really grateful to be back. 129 00:05:37,947 --> 00:05:41,067 Speaker 4: In the environment. And yeah, but seen coming off this 130 00:05:41,227 --> 00:05:43,267 Speaker 4: season where I've just been a little bit more refreshed. 131 00:05:43,507 --> 00:05:46,707 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you not have that that mindset before? 132 00:05:48,267 --> 00:05:51,227 Speaker 3: Yeah? Before I think I kind of go and went 133 00:05:51,307 --> 00:05:54,427 Speaker 3: into a little bit of overdrive and like finding every 134 00:05:54,427 --> 00:05:56,147 Speaker 3: little single thing that I needed to do and it 135 00:05:56,227 --> 00:05:58,347 Speaker 3: kind of was probably to my detriment really and just 136 00:05:58,427 --> 00:06:00,707 Speaker 3: kind of overthinking things a bit. But yeah, just kind 137 00:06:00,707 --> 00:06:03,867 Speaker 3: of taking that more relaxed or not relaxed approach, but 138 00:06:04,147 --> 00:06:08,147 Speaker 3: just bigger picture approach and yeah, just really grateful to 139 00:06:08,187 --> 00:06:08,507 Speaker 3: be back. 140 00:06:08,907 --> 00:06:12,507 Speaker 2: Well it's obviously working now. A change this year in 141 00:06:12,547 --> 00:06:16,387 Speaker 2: the Constellation Cup is that if Australia happened to win 142 00:06:17,107 --> 00:06:20,667 Speaker 2: Tests three and four and the series has drawn to two, 143 00:06:20,787 --> 00:06:23,227 Speaker 2: we got into a situation after the fourth Test where 144 00:06:23,227 --> 00:06:26,107 Speaker 2: you play almost like a mini game to seven minute 145 00:06:26,147 --> 00:06:29,827 Speaker 2: halves to decide who actually wins the Constellation Cup. Previously 146 00:06:29,827 --> 00:06:32,427 Speaker 2: it was on points differential across the four games. Have 147 00:06:32,467 --> 00:06:35,827 Speaker 2: you thought about without wanting to put the car before 148 00:06:35,867 --> 00:06:37,187 Speaker 2: the horse. I'm sure you want to win one of 149 00:06:37,187 --> 00:06:39,347 Speaker 2: these remaining two tests, but if it does finish too too. 150 00:06:39,347 --> 00:06:42,707 Speaker 2: Have you thought about the extra time scenario after game four? 151 00:06:44,387 --> 00:06:47,547 Speaker 3: We have mentioned it and very aware of what it 152 00:06:47,547 --> 00:06:49,907 Speaker 3: could come to, but our plan is to really take 153 00:06:49,947 --> 00:06:51,827 Speaker 3: this next game and so we don't have to be 154 00:06:51,827 --> 00:06:52,467 Speaker 3: in that position. 155 00:06:53,227 --> 00:06:55,107 Speaker 2: No fair enough, I knew you were going to say that, 156 00:06:55,507 --> 00:06:58,307 Speaker 2: and you're off to the Steel next year. How did 157 00:06:58,307 --> 00:06:58,827 Speaker 2: that come about? 158 00:06:59,387 --> 00:06:59,747 Speaker 3: I am? 159 00:06:59,907 --> 00:07:02,827 Speaker 4: I think it just came about because of just change. 160 00:07:02,867 --> 00:07:06,107 Speaker 3: Really, I've been at a tactic for would it been 161 00:07:06,147 --> 00:07:08,387 Speaker 3: next she would have been my eighth year and no 162 00:07:08,507 --> 00:07:11,467 Speaker 3: bad bud or anything. Loved every moment at the tactics, 163 00:07:11,507 --> 00:07:14,067 Speaker 3: but just with the shorter season next year, I was 164 00:07:14,067 --> 00:07:17,427 Speaker 3: just like, sorry, why not at least just give it 165 00:07:17,467 --> 00:07:20,107 Speaker 3: a go, get out of my comfort zone, challenge myself. 166 00:07:19,787 --> 00:07:22,067 Speaker 2: Try something you Yeah, well, I hope that goes well 167 00:07:22,107 --> 00:07:24,667 Speaker 2: for you. In the meantime, your focus is on the 168 00:07:24,707 --> 00:07:27,627 Speaker 2: Silver Ferns and Australia Test three tonight in Perth. Cameo 169 00:07:27,827 --> 00:07:29,107 Speaker 2: all the best. I hope you don't have to get 170 00:07:29,147 --> 00:07:31,547 Speaker 2: to that extra time scenario. I hope you can get 171 00:07:31,587 --> 00:07:33,587 Speaker 2: the job done either tonight or in Test number four. 172 00:07:33,627 --> 00:07:34,347 Speaker 2: Thanks for your time. 173 00:07:34,227 --> 00:07:35,867 Speaker 3: Today, cool, Thank you. 174 00:07:35,867 --> 00:07:38,147 Speaker 2: Thanks Giming kim Me or to Poy There mid quarter 175 00:07:38,267 --> 00:07:39,067 Speaker 2: from the Silver Fern. 176 00:07:39,547 --> 00:07:42,747 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 177 00:07:42,827 --> 00:07:46,147 Speaker 1: to News Talk zed B weekends from midday, or follow 178 00:07:46,187 --> 00:07:47,787 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio