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Speaker 2: Hello, kiol A, good afternoon, Welcome in. This is Saturday's

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Speaker 2: edition of Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB for March

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Speaker 2: twenty two. I'm Jason Pine. Show producer is Annie McDonald.

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Speaker 2: We're talking sport until three. I honestly didn't know where

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Speaker 2: it's a look. Last night there was this kick from

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Speaker 3: And this Lett to start agett here the Chiefs and

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Speaker 3: go down the right handline and decended by the water.

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Speaker 2: And it's how Billy down the left week flank. Bas

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Speaker 3: Here's the why, and it's more again and maybe this

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Speaker 2: And this to Paglet cident blast.

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Speaker 4: You run out of plays to describe his goalscoring for

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Speaker 4: and this shepman goes out trade has he got enough?

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Speaker 2: Yes he has? Flat six Sen said the Beer Garden

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Speaker 2: of Eating. What a Friday night on the sporting scene,

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Speaker 2: rugby league, rugby, football, cricket and much born. Besides, we're

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Speaker 2: going to try and cover off as much of that

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Speaker 2: as we can today. Warriors fullback charms Nicol klukstart leads

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Speaker 2: us off today after a first win in seven years

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Speaker 2: over the Roosters at a Jumping Go Media stadium last night.

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Speaker 2: Great to see the stands packed as pero usual for

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Speaker 2: the Warriors. Chiefs assistant coach David Hill this hour as well,

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Speaker 2: after his site played a game of two halves last

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Speaker 2: night against one. They were forty three seven ahead at

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Speaker 2: halftime and then Minor Pacifica came roaring back to get

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Speaker 2: in the all Whites camp after one with rising star

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Speaker 2: Tyler Binden. Other matters around today. The name on everyone's

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Speaker 2: lips in athletics circles is Sam Ruth, who captured headlines

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Speaker 2: around the world this week becoming the youngest athlete ever

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Speaker 2: to run a sub for minute mile. We'll put this

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Speaker 2: into context for you after two o'clock with double Olympic champion, sorry,

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Speaker 2: double Olympic medalist, almost promoted in there in the fifteen

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Speaker 2: hundred meters. Nick willis Sam Ruth's dad Ben also along

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Speaker 2: for a chat sale GP hit San Francisco tomorrow. Lived

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Speaker 2: MacKaye is with us out of the Black Foils. Adam

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Speaker 2: Peacock updating Australian sporting matters as usual, just on the

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Speaker 2: Grand Prix as well as you heard from Wayna on

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Speaker 2: the Sports Newsleam Lawson has endured an unhappy qualifying for

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Speaker 2: the sprint race the Chinese Grand Prix, this time tomorrow

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Speaker 2: after Midday Tomorrow, Australian F one legend Mark Webber is

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Speaker 2: on the show with us, looking forward to chatting to

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Speaker 2: him tomorrow about Liam Lawson, about racing F one and

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Speaker 2: about what he's up to these days. He's actually in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand at the moment, Mark Webber, so he's with

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Speaker 2: us tomorrow after Midday Live Sport this afternoon, Round four

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Speaker 2: of six and Super Rugby opicky the Hurricanes Port looking

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Speaker 2: for their first one of the season. They take on

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Speaker 2: Mata two in Upper Hut from five past two and three.

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Speaker 2: Plunket Shield Cricket matches to keep eyes on as well

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Speaker 2: the show whenever you like. If the mood takes you, oh,

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Speaker 2: on the phones nine two ninety two via text message

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Speaker 1: Day analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world.

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Pie they call O eight hundred

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Speaker 2: A hard fought and hugely deserved win for the Warriors

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Speaker 2: Back to back for trees.

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Speaker 3: For the Warriors here at twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: real arm wrestle last night, the Warriors snapping a run

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Speaker 2: March of twenty eighteen, a gripping contest at go Media Stadium.

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Speaker 2: They won it by fourteen points to six. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to get full fullback chance, Nicol klukstart online to chat

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Speaker 2: about this one shortly. Your thoughts are welcome to Warriors fans.

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Speaker 2: I think after Las Vegas there was a fair degree

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Speaker 2: fourteen points to six in what was a really hard

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Speaker 2: Been a week while chant since you beat the Roosters.

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Speaker 2: That was a battle, man, What are the satisfaction levels

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Speaker 2: Outstanding milestone for you to enjoy. Yeah, you were behind

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we've We've done a lot of work

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Speaker 2: Oh, I must have met When I saw Shanela Harris

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Speaker 2: And two more tries for Ali Layatawa as well. How

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Speaker 2: And what about yourself. Chn's a great game from you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a lot of confidence x. I think just

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Speaker 6: You know, they're aside that's known for that sort of

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Speaker 2: And it was the fewest points you've conceded since twenty

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Speaker 6: Massive, massive focus for US. Defense wins premierships, and that's

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Speaker 2: How much of good defense is mental, you know, wanting

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Speaker 6: I feel like it's the you know, over half or

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean you've just described what you did in

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Speaker 6: Yes, no, I got. I flew straight into his knee

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Speaker 2: Love it, love it. Unfortunately that Roger did have to

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Speaker 2: is tying two old Picky? Yeah, looking dangerous again again.

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Speaker 2: How good's have been watching his growth? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I love you today. I love you. He's only going

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Speaker 6: it's invaluable. And yeah, he's he's working towards building the

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Speaker 2: What has been behind the turnaround since you got back?

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Speaker 6: Massive? I just want to massive thanks to all our fans,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Hey, great to chat chance, congratulations on a milestone

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Speaker 6: Cool ass, thanks for that team, have a good one name.

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Speaker 2: Another great game from him, I thought, I mean it's

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Speaker 2: What did you make of it?

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Speaker 9: Mark?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, sort of a throwback, wasn't it for the whole

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Speaker 10: As you said, I think last night was one of

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Speaker 2: Are you, Oh, without doubt. Yeah, they were as bad

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Speaker 6: I like it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and I think, you know, Webster has coached a

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Speaker 10: Just one last thing. What happened did the Chiefs last night?

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Speaker 10: There lost to be a lot of money in.

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Speaker 2: Well they won the game? Did you did you bet

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Speaker 10: You, mate, ask him if I get a refund.

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Speaker 9: Mark.

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Speaker 2: Thanks mate. I eighty ten eighty nine to nine to

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Speaker 2: Thank you Nigel for your text. Jason, don't forget the

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Speaker 2: Hawk Cup cricket match between Taranaki and South Canterbury. I

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Speaker 2: if you like. South Canterbury one hundred and forty one

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Speaker 2: My partner Conrad said that people were writing them off

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Speaker 2: I've been trying. I always try to ring it and

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Speaker 2: Where are going to get onto the rugby before one o'clock?

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Speaker 2: But if you want to have you say on what

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Speaker 2: I just love love watching them after a after a win,

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Speaker 2: connecting with your fan base. And it's happened over a

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Speaker 2: number of years. And that's why last year, when the

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Speaker 2: Warriors weren't winning too often, that people still turned up.

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Speaker 2: And that's why off the back of the Raiders performance. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was not quite a full house last week, but

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Speaker 2: last night it was what twenty three? What's the Place?

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Speaker 2: Old Fall? Twenty five? Another terrific, terrific turnout. So kudos

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Speaker 2: to the Warriors again for the engagement that they managed

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Speaker 2: to find with their fan base. Twelve twenty nine Number

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Speaker 2: is I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Back with

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Speaker 2: more of your calls after this on news Talks V.

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Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend

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Speaker 2: News Talks V twenty eight Away from One talking the Warriors.

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Speaker 2: I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Barry, how are

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Speaker 2: you feeling after three games?

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Speaker 12: Jason, have a look at the truth. I don't think

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Speaker 12: that they've got the the stamnia to do the whole

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Speaker 12: season and have a winner at the end of it.

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Speaker 13: What makes you?

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Speaker 14: What's form that?

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Speaker 2: What's formed that for you? I mean they, yes, they

453
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Speaker 2: weren't great in the first game, but they've been very

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Speaker 2: good the last two.

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Speaker 12: Well, look, have a look at their past, and that

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Speaker 12: sums up the whole team because most of those players

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Speaker 12: are from the past. And I don't think that they'll

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Speaker 12: do it, honestly, don't. You've got all your believers, but

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Speaker 12: I'm a disbeliever.

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Speaker 2: All right, Berry, Well, I want you to. I want

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Speaker 2: you to have a yarn to us off and across

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Speaker 2: the season. I'll remember today the twenty second of marchal.

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Speaker 2: You may well be wrong. My name Barry, oh will Berry.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry about that. It's burnt into my consciousness now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you may well be right. I hope you're wrong.

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Speaker 12: You after another three games, Ah.

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Speaker 2: Go on, Barry your beauty. I'll look forward to chatting

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Speaker 2: to you then, mate, Okay, all right, all the best

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Speaker 2: all of this. Look, Look, you could be right. One

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Speaker 2: of my favorite phrases is that a good predictor of

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Speaker 2: future behavior is past behavior. But I'm not sure that

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Speaker 2: it necessarily applies here. How many of these Warriors players

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Speaker 2: have been there, you know, for a long time. There

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Speaker 2: are you know, a couple of new guys. And actually

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Speaker 2: there's a text here from Jamie. What about the two

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Speaker 2: younger players who came off the bench and really added something.

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Speaker 2: The future is looking good for the Warriors. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: talking about the likes of Dimitric Vaimonga and Liqua Hala

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Speaker 2: Sima Hala. Siam is not even twenty yet. I don't

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Speaker 2: think Jackson Ford and Dylan Walker have been around for

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Speaker 2: a bit longer coming off the bench. But I guess

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Speaker 2: you look at the team and okay, yes, yes, I

483
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Speaker 2: suppose some of them have been there for a while,

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Speaker 2: but then others have not. James Fishaharis first season at

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Speaker 2: the Warriors. You know, there's Ali Leitawa is early in

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Speaker 2: his career. Jackie says, one thing that's not being mentioned

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Speaker 2: is how good the Raiders are this year. Last week

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Speaker 2: they did to Brisbane what they did to the Warriors

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Speaker 2: in Round one. I think the Raiders are going to

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Speaker 2: be a big team this year. Darren, do you share

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Speaker 2: the pessimism of Barry or are you a little bit

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Speaker 2: more optimistic about the Warriors.

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Speaker 13: I'm definitely more optimistic. I rang up to say that,

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Speaker 13: I'm going to say various seats on the bandwagon.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Darren, I love it.

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Speaker 13: I think I think Sparring Vegas, we're looking really good.

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Speaker 13: We're doing the small things really well. We're kicking to

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Speaker 13: the corners, we're completing our sets, we're not making too

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Speaker 13: many silly eras. I think we're looking really good for

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Speaker 13: at least the top eight in it.

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Speaker 2: I think so too. And you can only take the

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Speaker 2: sample size that's been presented to us, and yeah, look,

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Speaker 2: the start wasn't ideal. But if you're as good as

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Speaker 2: your last game, and that was last night, they think

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Speaker 2: the Warriors are going okay. I agree, Darren. I think

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Speaker 2: they were a top a proposition.

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Speaker 9: Yep, that's right.

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Speaker 13: If we make it, you only got to win three

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Speaker 13: games from there.

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Speaker 15: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Go on, Darren. See this is the this is the

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Speaker 2: broad spectrum of viewpoints in the ZB audience. You see,

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Speaker 2: there's the pessimism of Bowrye, the optimism of people like yourself,

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Speaker 2: and I don't mind it. It takes all types. But

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Speaker 2: thanks for thanks for balancing things up for us, mate.

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Speaker 13: No worries up the wars, up the.

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Speaker 2: Wars there and good on your mate twenty five to one,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten u Y. I thought the

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Speaker 2: refereeing in the Warriors game was outstanding, says this text. Yeah. Look,

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Speaker 2: if we're not talking about it, then it was probably

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Speaker 2: quite good. I think that's a general rule of thumb,

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Speaker 2: isn't it that if you're not talking about the refereeing,

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Speaker 2: then it's it's probably something that is. There's been acceptable

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Speaker 2: on the night, well more than acceptable, good on the night.

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Speaker 2: Let's give kudos where it's due. Well done to the

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Speaker 2: officiating team. Get at Piney, says Andy. Kudos to the

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Speaker 2: Warriors bench. We were able to rest James Fisher Harris

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Speaker 2: and Mitch Barnett at the same time with Ford and

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Speaker 2: Hellas Sima coming on. Plus the depth of the squad

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Speaker 2: with the new South Wales Cup team who are sweeping

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Speaker 2: sides away, and that's I think that was the problem

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Speaker 2: or one of the problems that was highlighted in the

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Speaker 2: first game. Wasn't it that there were two There was

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Speaker 2: there were too many times when Mitch Barnett and James

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Speaker 2: Fisher Harris were both off at the same time. And

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Speaker 2: that comes down to management, doesn't it. But who did

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Speaker 2: I asked last week, who do we have on last

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Speaker 2: week talking about the Warriors? It was it was one

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Speaker 2: of the coaching team, wasn't it. And he said, look,

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Speaker 2: these those positions are tough positions. You can't expect to

541
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Speaker 2: be out there. You are going to run out a path.

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Speaker 2: You need a bit of time on the bench. And

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Speaker 2: I guess the you know, if they're both going from

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Speaker 2: the start, James Fisher, Harris and Mitch Barnett, whoever it

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Speaker 2: is in the front row, they are going to clock

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Speaker 2: up the GPS numbers, the hits and all of that

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Speaker 2: and around about the same time. So I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: that there's a lot you can do really sometimes about

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Speaker 2: up about staggering your interchange, particularly when it comes to

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Speaker 2: the front rowers. David Hill from the Chiefs not too

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Speaker 2: far away, justin, Hello, matey mate, how are you going?

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Speaker 2: Very good? Justin.

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Speaker 16: I've been listening to you your radio this morning has

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Speaker 16: been very awesome, very interesting, and I like to agree

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Speaker 16: with you guys with the Warriors the moment, they're looking

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Speaker 16: very good. It's a nice fresh look too, I think,

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Speaker 16: and this season anything could happen, o, my son, Well.

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Speaker 2: Justin that's see that again. It's the the optimism that

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Speaker 2: I like. You're right, you know, and if you've followed

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Speaker 2: the Warriors for a while, you'll know that that's a

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Speaker 2: very good way of describing them. Anything could happen.

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Speaker 10: Definitely, anything could happen.

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Speaker 17: And at the moment, I mean there's a lot of

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Speaker 17: teams stepped up in the in the first few weeks.

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Speaker 17: I mean, like you said, the Roosters, they did beat Penris,

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Speaker 17: but then we beat Rusters, so interesting, interesting health and

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Speaker 17: so far.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and yeah, the teams that beat the best, yes,

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Speaker 2: absolutely dead right mate. Yeah, I mean I think at

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Speaker 2: the moment it feels to me, and again small sample size,

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Speaker 2: we're only three games in, but it feels like the

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Speaker 2: Storm are good and everybody else is in a bit

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Speaker 2: of a pack behind them, and a bunch of teams

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Speaker 2: could turn out to be quite good, could turn out

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Speaker 2: to be good for a while, could turn out to

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Speaker 2: be terrible to start with, and then make a late run.

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Speaker 2: That's what the NRL season is. How many rounds are there?

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Speaker 2: Twenty five, twenty seven, twenty seven rounds with three rounds in,

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Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean, we can't be a bit optimistic

580
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Speaker 2: about what we're seeing. Aaron Clark played well, says this

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Speaker 2: text up the wires, she says. Dave from Masterton, a

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Speaker 2: regular listener and text to the show. Adrian says the

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Speaker 2: Warriors have far too many in inverted commas supporters like Barry.

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Speaker 2: Even after a win, the social media pages of full

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Speaker 2: of people saying half the team should be playing reserve

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Speaker 2: grade when we have to fence like our last two games,

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Speaker 2: how can you not be optimistic about our chances? Good point, Adrian.

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Speaker 2: After letting thirty in the first game, just to combine

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Speaker 2: twenty two in the last two games, the defense has

590
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Speaker 2: clearly improved. Justin, justin I've said, I've chatted to you.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go to Dave. Hello, Dave.

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Speaker 6: Good.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, but roller coaster season of the Warriors again.

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Speaker 11: We've had a bit of.

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Speaker 18: Blosso in Vegas, are smashing the next week and then

596
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Speaker 18: a tough, bretty winness.

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Speaker 11: So we're going to go.

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Speaker 18: But what I thought was really good, which I noticed

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Speaker 18: last night, and not a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Well, Dave, just you're just starting to break up a bit,

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Speaker 2: and I get the feeling you're about to make a

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Speaker 2: really good point. I'm going to put you back on

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Speaker 2: hold and see if Andy can chat to you and

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Speaker 2: find a better place for you to be in your

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Speaker 2: house that that improves your reception. In the meantime, we'll

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Speaker 2: go to Frank.

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Speaker 19: Hello, Frank, Yeah, Pony, Yeah, I've got very much optimism

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Speaker 19: on this team this year. They they were a combination

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Speaker 19: of experienced players and young players who got fire in

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Speaker 19: their belly. And what I like about it is that

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Speaker 19: their second grade team I've got. They're a great side,

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Speaker 19: and that's a good storehouse to go to for new players.

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Speaker 19: For the Warriors, I run the tennis bets at Papakura

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Speaker 19: on a Friday, and I've got the flag, and every

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Speaker 19: time they win, I fly the flag. Of course, every

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Speaker 19: time they lose, well, I'll I'll keep it in my bag.

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Speaker 19: But I don't think I'll be keeping it in my

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Speaker 19: bag very often.

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Speaker 2: May fly often, may and fly often.

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Speaker 19: Frank, Yes, Yeah, I'm just loving what I'm what I'm seeing.

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Speaker 19: You know, these these guys have okay Vegas. I think

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Speaker 19: there were so many attractions for them, and a lot

623
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Speaker 19: of them hadn't been there, and I think they indulged

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Speaker 19: a little bit in the attraction. So their play was

625
00:32:06,187 --> 00:32:09,307
Speaker 19: a little bit, shall we say, lack luster, but boy

626
00:32:09,627 --> 00:32:13,027
Speaker 19: are they looking good. And I've got a lot of confidence,

627
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Speaker 19: so I think we can get the top eight. I

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Speaker 19: think we can probably sneak into the top four, but

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Speaker 19: the top eight, I'm pretty certain we can get there.

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Speaker 2: Love it good man, Frank. Great to have your optimism

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Speaker 2: on board. As I say, hopefully that flag of yours

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Speaker 2: flies often in Papa Quarter in the year ahead. Dave,

633
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Speaker 2: we got your back, you know, yeah, much better.

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Speaker 18: What I saw last What I saw last night, which

635
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Speaker 18: I really liked was those young boys Lecqua, Dmitry Ali

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Speaker 18: and Jacob Laban as well. I'll get to that, but

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Speaker 18: they really consoled each other, like one of them made

638
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Speaker 18: a mistake and then I ran over and helped him out,

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Speaker 18: said it's all right. And they seem to have a

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Speaker 18: real strong team bond between them. And then yeah, at

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Speaker 18: the end, when I think Arlie got that try, you

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Speaker 18: saw Jacob Laban jump up from eighteen. Man incredibly excited.

643
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Speaker 18: I think that sort of stuff. You can form a

644
00:33:13,147 --> 00:33:15,867
Speaker 18: core of your of your team around, you know. Yeah,

645
00:33:15,947 --> 00:33:20,347
Speaker 18: and and like true warriors, you know, like the HT

646
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Speaker 18: you know, he's uh you know, he's had his troubles

647
00:33:23,427 --> 00:33:26,387
Speaker 18: and all that sort of stuff, but you can tell

648
00:33:26,667 --> 00:33:30,027
Speaker 18: his heart is with the Warriors and it's those sort

649
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Speaker 18: of players that will build a premiership winning team, players

650
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Speaker 18: that have that heart and soul behind them.

651
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Speaker 2: Did you think when Janella Harris Toba put up that

652
00:33:39,907 --> 00:33:42,107
Speaker 2: kick that he hadn't got it quite right?

653
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Speaker 15: Yeah?

654
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Speaker 18: I didn't know where it was gone.

655
00:33:46,267 --> 00:33:49,427
Speaker 2: I watched what's he doing? But then you know then

656
00:33:49,747 --> 00:33:51,907
Speaker 2: because it basically kicked it was like an up and under,

657
00:33:52,267 --> 00:33:54,707
Speaker 2: and then he then he chased after the short distance

658
00:33:54,747 --> 00:33:57,267
Speaker 2: to chase after it gathers at scores and that was

659
00:33:57,427 --> 00:33:58,827
Speaker 2: that was the key moment in the game.

660
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Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, I thought that, and yeah, really excited by Ali.

661
00:34:04,547 --> 00:34:10,067
Speaker 18: Amazing player so far. Yes, you've got plenty of experienced

662
00:34:10,107 --> 00:34:14,307
Speaker 18: mistakes in him, and then you saw, Yeah, there was

663
00:34:14,347 --> 00:34:17,187
Speaker 18: another point in the game where I think it was

664
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Speaker 18: Dimitri took the ball up and I think the hooker

665
00:34:22,747 --> 00:34:26,667
Speaker 18: Connor Watson from the Roosters just snuck his foot underneath

666
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Speaker 18: when he was playing the ball and chipped it out

667
00:34:30,467 --> 00:34:33,387
Speaker 18: and you could see that was experience versus that experience,

668
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Speaker 18: and I think I think there's all those young boys

669
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Speaker 18: needs a lot of game time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it only comes with games. You're right, Dave,

671
00:34:40,907 --> 00:34:44,067
Speaker 2: it only comes with Well, it only comes with experience,

672
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Speaker 2: doesn't it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, next time, the experienced players probably not going to

675
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Speaker 18: get away with that cheeky little move. Yeah, you know,

676
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Speaker 18: I took my hat off to him.

677
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Speaker 11: I thought, I thought, I thought.

678
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Speaker 18: I thought it was brilliant in the end to just

679
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Speaker 18: lodge the ball like that without anyone even seeing it

680
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Speaker 18: or knowing it.

681
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Speaker 2: Good on your Dave, excellent a chat mate. Glad we

682
00:35:06,147 --> 00:35:08,307
Speaker 2: got your on a decent line. And yeah, I know

683
00:35:08,347 --> 00:35:10,707
Speaker 2: you'll keep the faith and we'll talk off and across

684
00:35:10,747 --> 00:35:13,947
Speaker 2: the across the season. Sixteen away from one News Talks,

685
00:35:14,107 --> 00:35:16,067
Speaker 2: B I think we'll keep this rolling. We'll keep a

686
00:35:16,067 --> 00:35:18,107
Speaker 2: line open for the Warriors. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

687
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Speaker 2: ten eighty nine, two ninety two on text, if you'd

688
00:35:20,507 --> 00:35:22,667
Speaker 2: like to jump aboard as we as we celebrate a

689
00:35:22,667 --> 00:35:26,867
Speaker 2: bit of a renaissance after the after the disappointment of Vegas.

690
00:35:26,947 --> 00:35:30,067
Speaker 2: That can stay there. Now we can look ahead and

691
00:35:30,387 --> 00:35:32,187
Speaker 2: back to back wins. Well, do I know Oka at

692
00:35:32,187 --> 00:35:34,587
Speaker 2: the moment, aren't they talking Warriors on news Talks? Heb

693
00:35:34,667 --> 00:35:35,467
Speaker 2: back in a moment.

694
00:35:36,507 --> 00:35:40,347
Speaker 1: The big issues on and after Fields Call eight hundred

695
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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Weekends forward with Jason.

696
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Speaker 18: Fain and GJ.

697
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Speaker 1: Gunder Homes, New Zealand's first trusted home Milder News talks ed.

698
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Speaker 2: BB coming out twelve way from one. Well, we'll kick

699
00:35:50,347 --> 00:35:52,787
Speaker 2: David Hill back to after one o'clock, assistant coach of

700
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs find out exactly what happened in that second

701
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Speaker 2: half last night when they were miles ahead forty three

702
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Speaker 2: seven ahead at halftime. What a first half, by the way,

703
00:36:01,267 --> 00:36:06,147
Speaker 2: but then Mana pacifica came roaring back into things. Excuse me,

704
00:36:06,187 --> 00:36:08,347
Speaker 2: so what happened there? David Hill? After one o'clock we'll

705
00:36:08,347 --> 00:36:10,667
Speaker 2: also get inside the All Whites camp a few more

706
00:36:10,707 --> 00:36:12,587
Speaker 2: minutes to talk Warriors though, if you would like to

707
00:36:12,667 --> 00:36:16,667
Speaker 2: I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty It's so true,

708
00:36:16,867 --> 00:36:20,107
Speaker 2: says this text, that Warriors fans have a real connection

709
00:36:20,187 --> 00:36:23,667
Speaker 2: with the team but also with each other. You only

710
00:36:23,707 --> 00:36:26,707
Speaker 2: have to see someone wearing Warriors gear and you feel

711
00:36:26,747 --> 00:36:29,387
Speaker 2: like you know them. Everyone was in such a good

712
00:36:29,427 --> 00:36:32,987
Speaker 2: mood last night, twenty three thousand people just loving it.

713
00:36:33,467 --> 00:36:36,867
Speaker 2: The passion is here to stay. Yeah, I mean, there's

714
00:36:37,107 --> 00:36:42,627
Speaker 2: a real connection. You're right between the fans themselves and

715
00:36:42,707 --> 00:36:45,387
Speaker 2: the players on the field, but you're right about the fans,

716
00:36:45,467 --> 00:36:48,267
Speaker 2: And I guess that's one of the reasons why we

717
00:36:48,267 --> 00:36:52,427
Speaker 2: wear replica gear. And if you see somebody wearing a

718
00:36:52,467 --> 00:36:55,067
Speaker 2: Warrior's top, if you're a Warriors fan or a whatever

719
00:36:55,107 --> 00:36:56,947
Speaker 2: top it is, if you're a fan of that team,

720
00:36:57,667 --> 00:37:00,267
Speaker 2: you immediately feel that connection with them, and you know

721
00:37:00,267 --> 00:37:03,547
Speaker 2: a little quickly, little up the Wars or come on

722
00:37:03,587 --> 00:37:08,227
Speaker 2: you next, or whatever it might be. It's yeah, it's

723
00:37:08,307 --> 00:37:10,067
Speaker 2: it's just all part of it, isn't it all part

724
00:37:10,107 --> 00:37:13,547
Speaker 2: of being a sports fan. Aaron Clark has been exceptional,

725
00:37:13,947 --> 00:37:17,747
Speaker 2: says this one mister tackle where they scored the try.

726
00:37:17,867 --> 00:37:21,347
Speaker 2: But his delivery from first receiver, the way he carries

727
00:37:21,387 --> 00:37:26,947
Speaker 2: the ball, his ball playing in general, exceptional, a real threat.

728
00:37:27,307 --> 00:37:31,067
Speaker 2: It gives Wade Eggan an opportunity to dummy and carry

729
00:37:31,307 --> 00:37:34,147
Speaker 2: as Clark has been such a handful. Yeah, no, good point.

730
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Speaker 2: He has been very, very good. I'm not quite sure

731
00:37:36,707 --> 00:37:39,427
Speaker 2: why they had him on the interchange bench in the

732
00:37:39,427 --> 00:37:41,067
Speaker 2: first game. Was it the first game he came off

733
00:37:41,107 --> 00:37:45,707
Speaker 2: the interchange. He started the last two and it's been

734
00:37:45,707 --> 00:37:46,827
Speaker 2: good to see Hello Craig.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, hi, Jason here. So I'm an AG fan from

736
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Speaker 8: ninety five. Love it to grant time on Interbay. Has

737
00:37:57,027 --> 00:38:00,387
Speaker 8: got for tickets even this season, even though the two

738
00:38:00,427 --> 00:38:03,267
Speaker 8: of us just to take mates. So that's my credentials.

739
00:38:03,267 --> 00:38:08,227
Speaker 8: There's a Warrior's fan. But I'd love the fact that

740
00:38:08,307 --> 00:38:12,907
Speaker 8: Frisher Harris is here, Fisher Harris effect that he'll have

741
00:38:12,987 --> 00:38:14,907
Speaker 8: on the rest of the career as opposed no one

742
00:38:14,947 --> 00:38:19,307
Speaker 8: ever talked about for newer break effects because he just

743
00:38:19,307 --> 00:38:21,387
Speaker 8: didn't have that impact on the rest of the team.

744
00:38:21,787 --> 00:38:24,547
Speaker 8: But I'm of the belief that if we can make

745
00:38:24,587 --> 00:38:27,227
Speaker 8: the eighth, that's great. If we can make the four

746
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Speaker 8: and have a winning home semifinal like we did in

747
00:38:30,347 --> 00:38:38,107
Speaker 8: twenty three, that's ever win the Grand Final in my lifetime,

748
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Speaker 8: because here's just so many things that have to go

749
00:38:41,827 --> 00:38:45,147
Speaker 8: right to win a Grand Final, and I believe the

750
00:38:45,227 --> 00:38:49,387
Speaker 8: unconscious bias and the problems of going to Sydney and

751
00:38:49,427 --> 00:38:53,747
Speaker 8: winning are just too much. You know, too many duck,

752
00:38:54,307 --> 00:38:56,147
Speaker 8: too many decks have to be in a right to

753
00:38:56,227 --> 00:39:00,427
Speaker 8: win a Grand Final. And I think I'd stacked the Warriors.

754
00:39:00,467 --> 00:39:03,707
Speaker 8: But I'm happy. I'm happy if they can make the

755
00:39:03,747 --> 00:39:07,867
Speaker 8: four and win that home semifinal, like they didn't three

756
00:39:07,907 --> 00:39:10,547
Speaker 8: their toolsome So yeah, I think they've got a good

757
00:39:10,667 --> 00:39:14,187
Speaker 8: chance this year. So yeah, that's my take on it.

758
00:39:14,027 --> 00:39:16,907
Speaker 2: It's a great take, great and I reckon, I reckon

759
00:39:17,667 --> 00:39:20,707
Speaker 2: you might see a you might see a championship. You

760
00:39:20,787 --> 00:39:24,067
Speaker 2: might see you know, another Grand final and a winning

761
00:39:24,107 --> 00:39:27,147
Speaker 2: Grand Final in your lifetime. Mate, I really do. I

762
00:39:27,187 --> 00:39:29,867
Speaker 2: think you might just so keep the faith. I know

763
00:39:29,947 --> 00:39:32,547
Speaker 2: you will as an OG supporter. Good to have your calling,

764
00:39:32,547 --> 00:39:34,467
Speaker 2: and mate, Jamie, you've got the last word for this one.

765
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Speaker 20: Yeah, hey, yeah, to see where the earlier guy Berry

766
00:39:39,387 --> 00:39:41,587
Speaker 20: was coming from. I mean we you know, we've won

767
00:39:41,627 --> 00:39:43,587
Speaker 20: a couple of games and then we've fallen off the rail.

768
00:39:43,667 --> 00:39:47,267
Speaker 20: So I mean we've been there before. But I think

769
00:39:47,267 --> 00:39:49,947
Speaker 20: the pleasing thing is, you know, we showed like last

770
00:39:49,947 --> 00:39:53,587
Speaker 20: week our tech tech was good and then in this week,

771
00:39:53,867 --> 00:39:55,947
Speaker 20: I mean last night was obviously but a lot more

772
00:39:55,947 --> 00:40:00,747
Speaker 20: about defense. But we can put those two together and

773
00:40:00,267 --> 00:40:02,547
Speaker 20: when when a lot more games during the season, there's

774
00:40:02,547 --> 00:40:06,587
Speaker 20: no reason why we can't make the eighth maybe even higher.

775
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel cautiously optimistic because I can almost hear

776
00:40:09,467 --> 00:40:13,147
Speaker 2: it in your voice. Jamie, the cautious optimism. Yes, you're right,

777
00:40:13,187 --> 00:40:15,267
Speaker 2: because we've been burnt before, haven't we And it's just

778
00:40:15,307 --> 00:40:19,267
Speaker 2: two games. But yeah, I think, yeah, I think you're right. Look,

779
00:40:19,947 --> 00:40:21,827
Speaker 2: if you're on the on the basis of last night

780
00:40:21,867 --> 00:40:24,707
Speaker 2: and last weekend, this is a top eight side, without question.

781
00:40:24,907 --> 00:40:27,387
Speaker 2: It's probably even a top four side. If you're beating

782
00:40:27,427 --> 00:40:30,387
Speaker 2: Manly then you're probably in the in the conversation anyway

783
00:40:30,387 --> 00:40:33,387
Speaker 2: for the top four. So yeah, I like the cautious optimism, mate.

784
00:40:33,387 --> 00:40:35,187
Speaker 2: I think that's probably a good a good way of

785
00:40:35,227 --> 00:40:35,827
Speaker 2: summing it up.

786
00:40:37,067 --> 00:40:40,147
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think so just years isn't out for too long?

787
00:40:40,227 --> 00:40:42,987
Speaker 20: I mean, for music can't take a while, but yeah,

788
00:40:42,987 --> 00:40:45,187
Speaker 20: hopefully it's only two or three weeks at most and

789
00:40:45,227 --> 00:40:48,947
Speaker 20: then yes, definitely be Beck sooner rather than later.

790
00:40:49,067 --> 00:40:51,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, back into it. Good on you, Jamie, good thoughts, mate,

791
00:40:51,427 --> 00:40:58,467
Speaker 2: appreciate your call. Seven to one us Talksb's.

792
00:40:55,507 --> 00:40:58,187
Speaker 1: Good from the track fields and the court on your

793
00:40:58,267 --> 00:41:01,387
Speaker 1: home of Lord Weeke with Jason.

794
00:41:02,667 --> 00:41:04,827
Speaker 2: Four to one. Final club of texts before one o'clock.

795
00:41:04,907 --> 00:41:08,067
Speaker 2: Piney Warriors looking good from my perspective, says Carlos two

796
00:41:08,147 --> 00:41:10,187
Speaker 2: of us. A check summed it up, Hammi gone and

797
00:41:10,267 --> 00:41:13,947
Speaker 2: making a tri saving tackle mindset for all on d

798
00:41:14,227 --> 00:41:16,907
Speaker 2: is great. Can't lose if you keep the opposition scoreless.

799
00:41:16,907 --> 00:41:20,107
Speaker 2: Go the WS, thanks Carlos, and Mars says that can't piney.

800
00:41:20,267 --> 00:41:23,547
Speaker 2: Everyone knows that no one wears nixt jerseys outside of

801
00:41:23,587 --> 00:41:25,907
Speaker 2: the stadium. Yes they do, Mars. I see plenty of

802
00:41:25,947 --> 00:41:28,747
Speaker 2: Phoenix shirts around Wellington, not so many in Auckland where

803
00:41:28,747 --> 00:41:32,067
Speaker 2: I am today. Lots of blue and black around. But

804
00:41:32,147 --> 00:41:35,227
Speaker 2: I take your point. After one o'clock we're going to

805
00:41:35,267 --> 00:41:37,907
Speaker 2: get inside the All Whites camp. A comprehensive seven zerl

806
00:41:37,907 --> 00:41:40,027
Speaker 2: win over Fiji last night means they are now ninety

807
00:41:40,067 --> 00:41:41,907
Speaker 2: minutes away from next year's World Cup. If they can

808
00:41:41,907 --> 00:41:45,387
Speaker 2: beat New Caledonia on Monday night at Eden Park, they

809
00:41:45,387 --> 00:41:47,347
Speaker 2: will punch their ticket to the World Cup next year.

810
00:41:47,467 --> 00:41:51,067
Speaker 2: Rising star Tyler Binden leads us off after one.

811
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Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

812
00:41:54,547 --> 00:41:56,187
Speaker 1: on and after fields.

813
00:41:56,707 --> 00:41:58,027
Speaker 21: It's all on Winter.

814
00:41:57,907 --> 00:42:03,187
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport News Talks.

815
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Speaker 2: Hello There, one O seven. This is News Talks EDB

816
00:42:06,667 --> 00:42:10,907
Speaker 2: Weekend Sports Saturday Edition. In an hour or so, Nick

817
00:42:10,947 --> 00:42:13,347
Speaker 2: Willis is on the show. What does he make of

818
00:42:13,467 --> 00:42:20,867
Speaker 2: Sam Ruth's extraordinary rise to prominence. Youngest ever human being

819
00:42:20,947 --> 00:42:26,667
Speaker 2: to run a sub forman mile this week. Nick Willis

820
00:42:26,707 --> 00:42:28,867
Speaker 2: was a fairly handy runner growing up as well. How

821
00:42:28,947 --> 00:42:31,507
Speaker 2: fast was he running at about the same age over

822
00:42:31,547 --> 00:42:36,427
Speaker 2: that same distance and what could Sam Ruth go on

823
00:42:36,507 --> 00:42:39,107
Speaker 2: to achieve? Nick Willis? In an hour or so, Ben Ruth,

824
00:42:39,467 --> 00:42:41,227
Speaker 2: father of Sam, also going to pop in for a chat.

825
00:42:41,227 --> 00:42:43,187
Speaker 2: We'll go to the Black Boys camp as well. That's

826
00:42:43,307 --> 00:42:46,227
Speaker 2: next hour, but this out we're inside the All Whites camp.

827
00:42:46,227 --> 00:42:52,587
Speaker 2: Shortly David Hills has gracefully agreed to be rescheduled. We're

828
00:42:52,587 --> 00:42:54,787
Speaker 2: going to chat to David Hill, the assistant coach of

829
00:42:54,827 --> 00:42:56,867
Speaker 2: the Chiefs last hour, but we kind of got carried

830
00:42:56,867 --> 00:42:59,347
Speaker 2: away talking about the Warriors, so he said, yeah, just

831
00:42:59,347 --> 00:43:01,107
Speaker 2: give me a calling of you like okay. We will

832
00:43:01,267 --> 00:43:04,747
Speaker 2: Adam Peacock from Australia at around quarters to two as well.

833
00:43:05,027 --> 00:43:08,587
Speaker 2: We'll keep you updated on lives sport with three plankets

834
00:43:08,587 --> 00:43:12,227
Speaker 2: shield matches happening around the place and a super rugby

835
00:43:12,307 --> 00:43:15,387
Speaker 2: opicky game also kicking off in about an hour or

836
00:43:15,427 --> 00:43:19,027
Speaker 2: so with the Hurricanes power up against Marta II. That

837
00:43:19,147 --> 00:43:21,987
Speaker 2: game taking place in Upper Hut oh eight hundred and

838
00:43:22,067 --> 00:43:24,747
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is our phone number. Nine two ninety

839
00:43:24,747 --> 00:43:27,787
Speaker 2: two is our text line, and we're going to kick

840
00:43:27,827 --> 00:43:31,347
Speaker 2: off the hour with football. Skipper Chris Wood has scored

841
00:43:31,347 --> 00:43:34,547
Speaker 2: a hat trick in New Zealand's seven nil thrashing of

842
00:43:34,627 --> 00:43:38,867
Speaker 2: Fiji in the Football World Cup Oceania Qualifier semi final

843
00:43:39,227 --> 00:43:43,587
Speaker 2: last night in Wellington, New.

844
00:43:43,627 --> 00:43:48,187
Speaker 4: Zealand's All Whites and ninety minutes from the fifth of

845
00:43:48,267 --> 00:43:55,347
Speaker 4: World Cup next year seven heaven tonight in Wellington, a

846
00:43:55,467 --> 00:43:58,987
Speaker 4: hand trick from their skipper, their talisman, their main man,

847
00:43:59,107 --> 00:44:04,187
Speaker 4: Chris Wood goals for seeing for payin for barbarusis.

848
00:44:03,707 --> 00:44:05,467
Speaker 2: And an own goal in the mix as well. He

849
00:44:05,547 --> 00:44:08,907
Speaker 2: has seven l last night. So New Zealand have moved

850
00:44:08,907 --> 00:44:11,267
Speaker 2: to Auckland. The All Whites have anyway, They've got on

851
00:44:11,307 --> 00:44:14,107
Speaker 2: a plane and hopped hopped up to Auckland where on

852
00:44:14,187 --> 00:44:17,747
Speaker 2: Monday nights at seven o'clock they will face New Caledonia

853
00:44:18,347 --> 00:44:21,827
Speaker 2: at Eden Park for a spot at next year's World Cup.

854
00:44:21,827 --> 00:44:24,387
Speaker 2: There were twenty one thousand there in Wellington last night, ready,

855
00:44:24,427 --> 00:44:27,107
Speaker 2: good crowd and chatting to the powers that be there

856
00:44:27,147 --> 00:44:30,587
Speaker 2: expecting at least that and actually quite a bit more

857
00:44:30,707 --> 00:44:34,347
Speaker 2: at Eden Park on Monday night. They're talking thirty maybe

858
00:44:34,387 --> 00:44:37,387
Speaker 2: thirty five thousand turning up to watch history being made.

859
00:44:37,787 --> 00:44:41,067
Speaker 2: Only twice before have New Zealand been to a senior

860
00:44:41,107 --> 00:44:45,467
Speaker 2: men's World Cup nineteen eighty two and twenty ten. So

861
00:44:45,587 --> 00:44:47,787
Speaker 2: a chance on Monday night for those in and around

862
00:44:47,787 --> 00:44:51,427
Speaker 2: the Auckland region to witness history made, hopefully anyway for

863
00:44:51,467 --> 00:44:55,067
Speaker 2: a third time. All Whites center back Tyler Binden joins us.

864
00:44:55,587 --> 00:44:58,387
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking our call, Tyler, as you look to

865
00:44:58,427 --> 00:45:01,587
Speaker 2: build now towards the final on Monday night. First of all, though,

866
00:45:01,587 --> 00:45:03,827
Speaker 2: how happy with the plane group and the coaching staff

867
00:45:04,187 --> 00:45:06,667
Speaker 2: with the performance you're put on against Fijili. It's night

868
00:45:06,667 --> 00:45:07,187
Speaker 2: and Wellington.

869
00:45:08,107 --> 00:45:10,867
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we're extremely happy, you know, and you

870
00:45:10,907 --> 00:45:14,027
Speaker 7: can't complain. We've got a clean sheet, we scored seven goals,

871
00:45:14,067 --> 00:45:17,027
Speaker 7: so it's a good result from everybody. I think, of course,

872
00:45:17,067 --> 00:45:19,547
Speaker 7: you can always take small bits, but I think in

873
00:45:19,627 --> 00:45:23,107
Speaker 7: these moments we have to move on now and focus

874
00:45:23,147 --> 00:45:25,347
Speaker 7: on the next game at hand and realize we did

875
00:45:25,387 --> 00:45:25,827
Speaker 7: really well.

876
00:45:26,347 --> 00:45:28,107
Speaker 2: How did you make sure and the lead up to

877
00:45:28,227 --> 00:45:31,107
Speaker 2: this game, the game last night, I mean, how did

878
00:45:31,107 --> 00:45:33,427
Speaker 2: you make sure you didn't get ahead of yourselves and

879
00:45:33,467 --> 00:45:37,147
Speaker 2: start thinking about Monday, just focusing solely on Fiji on

880
00:45:37,187 --> 00:45:40,547
Speaker 2: the Friday rather than know what a result there might

881
00:45:40,587 --> 00:45:41,147
Speaker 2: mean for you.

882
00:45:42,987 --> 00:45:44,987
Speaker 7: I think for us, you know, we ever take everything

883
00:45:45,067 --> 00:45:49,347
Speaker 7: game by game or the crazy sport, anything can happen,

884
00:45:49,387 --> 00:45:52,787
Speaker 7: so a games never won until the ninety minutes are over.

885
00:45:53,387 --> 00:45:56,027
Speaker 7: So we just were thinking like that and taking it

886
00:45:56,107 --> 00:45:57,227
Speaker 7: like we would any other game.

887
00:45:58,267 --> 00:46:00,907
Speaker 2: The seven goals, as you say, impressive, but from a

888
00:46:00,947 --> 00:46:03,667
Speaker 2: defensive point of view, a clean sheet is a box

889
00:46:03,747 --> 00:46:06,107
Speaker 2: ticked as well. How happy were you and the rest

890
00:46:06,107 --> 00:46:08,907
Speaker 2: of the of the defense with thought the way you

891
00:46:09,027 --> 00:46:10,587
Speaker 2: kept Fiji at bay?

892
00:46:11,427 --> 00:46:14,467
Speaker 7: I think we were very happy. You know, our prior

893
00:46:14,627 --> 00:46:17,227
Speaker 7: is to keep a clean sheet, and if we do that,

894
00:46:17,507 --> 00:46:21,427
Speaker 7: we can't lose, so we're all very happy.

895
00:46:21,587 --> 00:46:24,107
Speaker 2: You've got Michael Boxel alongside. Of course, he's been around

896
00:46:24,107 --> 00:46:28,147
Speaker 2: the national team for a while. How helpful and influential

897
00:46:28,147 --> 00:46:31,427
Speaker 2: has he been inside this national team environment for you?

898
00:46:31,467 --> 00:46:35,387
Speaker 7: Personally, he's awesome, you know, He's a great guy and

899
00:46:35,867 --> 00:46:40,187
Speaker 7: I do learn quite a bit from him just in general. Really,

900
00:46:40,227 --> 00:46:42,747
Speaker 7: I think I'll work well off him and they take

901
00:46:42,827 --> 00:46:46,627
Speaker 7: smre bits that I can defensively and offensively, and.

902
00:46:46,627 --> 00:46:49,747
Speaker 2: At the other end of course, your captain Chris Wood

903
00:46:49,827 --> 00:46:53,347
Speaker 2: another hat trick for New Zealand forty four goals. Now

904
00:46:53,787 --> 00:46:56,227
Speaker 2: for the National side. Can you put into words the

905
00:46:56,267 --> 00:46:58,787
Speaker 2: influence that Chris Wood has on this site?

906
00:47:01,227 --> 00:47:02,147
Speaker 9: I think it's quite hard.

907
00:47:02,267 --> 00:47:06,187
Speaker 7: From honest, you know, he's like a living legend that

908
00:47:06,187 --> 00:47:08,227
Speaker 7: you get to play with every day. I think would

909
00:47:08,227 --> 00:47:10,387
Speaker 7: be the best termnology for it.

910
00:47:11,427 --> 00:47:13,027
Speaker 2: Did you see that? Did you see what happened to

911
00:47:13,107 --> 00:47:15,107
Speaker 2: him when he went up into the stands to sign autographs?

912
00:47:15,147 --> 00:47:15,827
Speaker 2: Have you caught up with that?

913
00:47:17,627 --> 00:47:17,707
Speaker 22: No?

914
00:47:17,827 --> 00:47:20,827
Speaker 7: I did see a few things on social media saying

915
00:47:20,827 --> 00:47:23,427
Speaker 7: that he's got a yellow just because he went had

916
00:47:23,467 --> 00:47:25,827
Speaker 7: some autographs, which I thought was quite funny.

917
00:47:25,907 --> 00:47:27,787
Speaker 10: But I don't know.

918
00:47:28,467 --> 00:47:29,587
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it has to be one of the

919
00:47:29,627 --> 00:47:32,387
Speaker 2: more unusual yellow cards. You know, he's he's giving up

920
00:47:32,427 --> 00:47:34,547
Speaker 2: his time to go and you have a few selfies

921
00:47:34,587 --> 00:47:37,027
Speaker 2: and autographs and all of a sudden he finds himself

922
00:47:37,067 --> 00:47:40,387
Speaker 2: and the referees notebook. But I guess he'll probably he'll

923
00:47:40,387 --> 00:47:42,587
Speaker 2: probably wear that one. So now that your spot in

924
00:47:42,627 --> 00:47:46,387
Speaker 2: the final is secure on Monday night, how exciting a

925
00:47:46,427 --> 00:47:50,427
Speaker 2: prospect is it that you are now effectively ninety minutes

926
00:47:50,467 --> 00:47:51,987
Speaker 2: away from going to a World Cup.

927
00:47:53,107 --> 00:47:55,707
Speaker 7: I think it's really cool. You know, it's going to

928
00:47:55,787 --> 00:47:58,267
Speaker 7: World Cup is not an easy feat and not everyone

929
00:47:58,267 --> 00:48:00,627
Speaker 7: gets to do it, so hopefully we can do it.

930
00:48:01,307 --> 00:48:04,187
Speaker 7: And it's a dream, you know. I think everyone in

931
00:48:04,387 --> 00:48:07,827
Speaker 7: all the dreams of it, they dreamed as a care

932
00:48:07,867 --> 00:48:09,907
Speaker 7: to everyone growing up wants to be in a World Cup.

933
00:48:09,987 --> 00:48:12,707
Speaker 7: So to be able to have the opportunity to play

934
00:48:12,707 --> 00:48:15,227
Speaker 7: in a game that could potentially get us there is

935
00:48:15,267 --> 00:48:15,747
Speaker 7: really cool.

936
00:48:15,987 --> 00:48:18,027
Speaker 2: How do you think the next couple of days will

937
00:48:18,067 --> 00:48:20,867
Speaker 2: be structured, Tyler? You know today will it be mainly

938
00:48:20,907 --> 00:48:23,467
Speaker 2: sort of recovery and then back on the grass tomorrow

939
00:48:23,547 --> 00:48:25,347
Speaker 2: or do you have a training session today? What's the

940
00:48:25,467 --> 00:48:26,747
Speaker 2: what's the structure for the weekend?

941
00:48:27,747 --> 00:48:32,547
Speaker 7: Yeah, so just be recovery today, probably go over how

942
00:48:32,587 --> 00:48:35,867
Speaker 7: the game was Fiji, what we can improve on, what

943
00:48:36,027 --> 00:48:38,347
Speaker 7: new cold and you will bring to us, and then

944
00:48:38,387 --> 00:48:42,387
Speaker 7: we'll train tomorrow and prepare ourselves for the upcoming fixture.

945
00:48:43,067 --> 00:48:45,627
Speaker 2: You played, of course some some youth international football for

946
00:48:45,707 --> 00:48:49,067
Speaker 2: the United States. Can you talk about the circumstances around

947
00:48:49,187 --> 00:48:51,587
Speaker 2: the choice to commit to New Zealand.

948
00:48:52,867 --> 00:48:55,947
Speaker 7: I think for me it wasn't it wasn't hard. Thew

949
00:48:56,027 --> 00:48:58,387
Speaker 7: Zealand's always do my home. I always wanted to play

950
00:48:58,387 --> 00:49:00,907
Speaker 7: for the All White so when they called it was

951
00:49:00,987 --> 00:49:03,227
Speaker 7: it was a no brainer for me to just accept

952
00:49:03,227 --> 00:49:06,027
Speaker 7: that opportunity and grab it with both hands.

953
00:49:06,427 --> 00:49:09,067
Speaker 2: And you did you play your junior football in Auckland?

954
00:49:10,187 --> 00:49:13,147
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, that's rights.

955
00:49:13,827 --> 00:49:18,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, the mighty East Coast Bays. And so just take

956
00:49:18,267 --> 00:49:19,907
Speaker 2: us through for those who are underware of it, your

957
00:49:20,267 --> 00:49:23,427
Speaker 2: journey from from junior football to where you are now.

958
00:49:25,867 --> 00:49:27,747
Speaker 7: Yes, I was at East Coast Be's when I was

959
00:49:27,787 --> 00:49:29,587
Speaker 7: younger and he zoning, and then I had moved to

960
00:49:29,627 --> 00:49:34,307
Speaker 7: the States. I was at LFC and then from there

961
00:49:34,387 --> 00:49:37,947
Speaker 7: I moved to England and have been out reading since

962
00:49:37,987 --> 00:49:41,147
Speaker 7: and then yeah, and.

963
00:49:41,147 --> 00:49:44,427
Speaker 2: In February signed by Nottingham Forest of course, but loaned

964
00:49:44,427 --> 00:49:46,387
Speaker 2: back to Reading for the rest of the current season.

965
00:49:46,867 --> 00:49:49,307
Speaker 2: What is the plan at the end of the season, Tyler?

966
00:49:49,347 --> 00:49:51,347
Speaker 2: Have you talked with the you know, the powers that

967
00:49:51,387 --> 00:49:54,227
Speaker 2: be at Nottingham Forest as a loan move likely? What's

968
00:49:54,267 --> 00:49:57,427
Speaker 2: the most likely scenario for you in the next year

969
00:49:57,467 --> 00:49:59,547
Speaker 2: to eighteen months or so.

970
00:49:59,587 --> 00:50:03,627
Speaker 7: It all depends really, I'm most likely not going for

971
00:50:03,627 --> 00:50:07,267
Speaker 7: a preseason and then depending on how they see me,

972
00:50:07,427 --> 00:50:09,307
Speaker 7: can you either get loaned out or stay with the

973
00:50:09,347 --> 00:50:13,107
Speaker 7: squad and see what happens from there. So it's all uncertain,

974
00:50:13,147 --> 00:50:14,747
Speaker 7: but it's all very exciting.

975
00:50:14,947 --> 00:50:17,107
Speaker 2: I'm building a bit of a key we cohort there

976
00:50:17,107 --> 00:50:19,667
Speaker 2: at Forest because obviously Chris Wood is there, You're there,

977
00:50:19,907 --> 00:50:22,107
Speaker 2: Marco Staminich also in the box. He's playing on loan

978
00:50:22,187 --> 00:50:24,427
Speaker 2: in Greece. At the moment, of course, it sounds like

979
00:50:24,467 --> 00:50:26,027
Speaker 2: the key we are taking over at Forrest.

980
00:50:29,347 --> 00:50:32,627
Speaker 7: It's a little little really, I think it's quite cools.

981
00:50:32,707 --> 00:50:35,707
Speaker 7: Not every day that you get to see three qwi's

982
00:50:35,707 --> 00:50:39,227
Speaker 7: playing for such a big club, So I think all

983
00:50:39,267 --> 00:50:41,987
Speaker 7: of us stay there and play, I think to be

984
00:50:42,147 --> 00:50:43,227
Speaker 7: really special.

985
00:50:42,947 --> 00:50:45,747
Speaker 2: It would indeed, And you've been clocking up the minutes

986
00:50:45,787 --> 00:50:47,907
Speaker 2: for Reading as well. I'm sure you've heard the stat

987
00:50:47,947 --> 00:50:51,067
Speaker 2: as well. As of November last year, you played more

988
00:50:51,107 --> 00:50:54,307
Speaker 2: minutes as a professional than any other teenager in the world.

989
00:50:54,387 --> 00:50:57,947
Speaker 2: You captained Reading when you were nineteen. Why do you

990
00:50:57,987 --> 00:51:02,627
Speaker 2: think you've adjusted so quickly to top level football.

991
00:51:03,107 --> 00:51:06,347
Speaker 7: I'm not sure really. I think my parents have helped

992
00:51:06,427 --> 00:51:07,827
Speaker 7: you with that a lot.

993
00:51:08,027 --> 00:51:08,947
Speaker 9: I think.

994
00:51:10,107 --> 00:51:14,107
Speaker 7: Growing up around them, and we're staying focused on what

995
00:51:14,267 --> 00:51:16,987
Speaker 7: I can do for the team and whether that's on

996
00:51:17,107 --> 00:51:20,027
Speaker 7: the pitch off the pits, just all the small details.

997
00:51:20,227 --> 00:51:21,507
Speaker 7: I think that's helped me a lot.

998
00:51:21,987 --> 00:51:24,227
Speaker 2: Hey, your mum Jenny is seventy seven cap football fir

999
00:51:24,267 --> 00:51:26,267
Speaker 2: and how big an influence has she been on you?

1000
00:51:27,667 --> 00:51:28,387
Speaker 7: She's been awesome?

1001
00:51:28,427 --> 00:51:28,587
Speaker 1: You know.

1002
00:51:28,667 --> 00:51:32,067
Speaker 7: I think without her I wouldn't be where I am today.

1003
00:51:33,067 --> 00:51:36,147
Speaker 7: She's an amazing mom and isn't a bit a person.

1004
00:51:36,227 --> 00:51:40,347
Speaker 7: So to be able to learn off her when I

1005
00:51:40,427 --> 00:51:43,867
Speaker 7: asked it, and then even just to be at her

1006
00:51:43,947 --> 00:51:46,547
Speaker 7: trainings when I was little, you know, it's inspired me

1007
00:51:46,667 --> 00:51:48,547
Speaker 7: to keep pushing on and keep dreaming.

1008
00:51:49,387 --> 00:51:52,307
Speaker 2: And is it true? I've heard I've heard a rumor

1009
00:51:52,387 --> 00:51:55,267
Speaker 2: or whispering that you are sitting in your driving test

1010
00:51:55,907 --> 00:51:57,347
Speaker 2: on Tuesday? Is this true?

1011
00:51:58,907 --> 00:52:00,587
Speaker 7: Who told you that?

1012
00:52:00,787 --> 00:52:01,147
Speaker 11: Funny?

1013
00:52:03,227 --> 00:52:04,987
Speaker 2: Can you confirm that this is the case?

1014
00:52:06,427 --> 00:52:08,587
Speaker 9: That is the key what's going on here?

1015
00:52:11,267 --> 00:52:14,907
Speaker 7: It's worked out time wise because last time was in

1016
00:52:14,947 --> 00:52:17,067
Speaker 7: New Zealander, I wasn't able to take my full due

1017
00:52:17,107 --> 00:52:19,027
Speaker 7: to the ant of time. You have to have your

1018
00:52:19,067 --> 00:52:21,307
Speaker 7: restricted license. So whenever I come back to New Zealand,

1019
00:52:21,347 --> 00:52:24,587
Speaker 7: I tray and just slowly tick off the boxes.

1020
00:52:24,667 --> 00:52:29,947
Speaker 2: So yeah, I want to come down. Thirty thousand people

1021
00:52:29,947 --> 00:52:32,227
Speaker 2: are leading park on Monday night to watch you hopefully

1022
00:52:32,387 --> 00:52:33,947
Speaker 2: qualify for Whorl Cup and then you've got to do

1023
00:52:33,987 --> 00:52:37,347
Speaker 2: three point turns and he'll starts on Tuesday to try

1024
00:52:37,387 --> 00:52:40,347
Speaker 2: and keep your license. May I'd be more nervous about that.

1025
00:52:41,947 --> 00:52:44,587
Speaker 7: I know you've got to take everything day by day,

1026
00:52:44,627 --> 00:52:46,587
Speaker 7: so I'm more focused on the game at hand and

1027
00:52:46,667 --> 00:52:49,027
Speaker 7: then we'll go from there.

1028
00:52:49,227 --> 00:52:51,307
Speaker 2: Good to know, hey, Tyler, great to check. Great on

1029
00:52:51,307 --> 00:52:53,627
Speaker 2: a good performance last night from you and the rest

1030
00:52:53,667 --> 00:52:56,187
Speaker 2: of your white. Terrific stuff to get past Fiji with

1031
00:52:56,547 --> 00:52:59,427
Speaker 2: such ease. All the best for Monday night against New

1032
00:52:59,467 --> 00:53:02,787
Speaker 2: Caledonia and on towards what could be a really exciting

1033
00:53:02,787 --> 00:53:04,627
Speaker 2: time for you on the team. Thanks for taking the time.

1034
00:53:04,507 --> 00:53:04,947
Speaker 9: For a chat.

1035
00:53:05,227 --> 00:53:05,987
Speaker 7: Thank you so much.

1036
00:53:06,867 --> 00:53:09,387
Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking our call. Tyler things. Indeed, Tyler

1037
00:53:09,427 --> 00:53:13,187
Speaker 2: Binden there, one of the rising stars of New Zealand football,

1038
00:53:13,227 --> 00:53:15,867
Speaker 2: looked so composed out there last night. Yes it was

1039
00:53:15,907 --> 00:53:19,027
Speaker 2: only Fiji, but if you've been following Tyler Bindon's career

1040
00:53:19,027 --> 00:53:21,507
Speaker 2: at all, you know that that is one very promising

1041
00:53:21,587 --> 00:53:24,147
Speaker 2: young football up. Once he gets his driver's license, he'll

1042
00:53:24,147 --> 00:53:26,067
Speaker 2: be able to drive himself to training. That'll be handy.

1043
00:53:26,947 --> 00:53:30,027
Speaker 2: Any thoughts on the Football eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1044
00:53:30,507 --> 00:53:33,747
Speaker 2: I mentioned it to Tyler during that chat there, and

1045
00:53:33,787 --> 00:53:35,467
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you've caught up with this, but

1046
00:53:35,547 --> 00:53:38,667
Speaker 2: it has captured headlines not just here but right around

1047
00:53:38,667 --> 00:53:43,547
Speaker 2: the world. Chris Wood scores a hat trick and is

1048
00:53:43,587 --> 00:53:46,627
Speaker 2: then substituted after about an hour, I think it was,

1049
00:53:47,147 --> 00:53:50,547
Speaker 2: so goes and sits down on the bench. And then,

1050
00:53:51,347 --> 00:53:54,867
Speaker 2: if you know Sky Stadium, the pitch is a little

1051
00:53:54,907 --> 00:53:58,427
Speaker 2: bit in from the from the crowd. It's overal right,

1052
00:53:58,467 --> 00:54:00,667
Speaker 2: so where the benches are They probably I know twenty

1053
00:54:00,667 --> 00:54:03,027
Speaker 2: twenty five meters between there and where the crowd are.

1054
00:54:03,507 --> 00:54:05,947
Speaker 2: But a couple of members of the crowd have got

1055
00:54:06,027 --> 00:54:08,347
Speaker 2: Chris Ward's attention and asked to for you know, said

1056
00:54:08,427 --> 00:54:11,507
Speaker 2: beckon him over to come and sign something or get

1057
00:54:11,507 --> 00:54:15,067
Speaker 2: a selfie or wa something like that. Next minute, Chris

1058
00:54:15,067 --> 00:54:18,307
Speaker 2: Wood is up in the crowd. He's climbed up the

1059
00:54:18,347 --> 00:54:23,427
Speaker 2: stairs and got into the crowd and is signing autographs

1060
00:54:23,467 --> 00:54:28,667
Speaker 2: and having selfies. And basically there's just this throng of people,

1061
00:54:29,427 --> 00:54:31,867
Speaker 2: mainly kids, but some slightly older kids as well, just

1062
00:54:31,947 --> 00:54:36,587
Speaker 2: gathered around Chris Wood like the pied piper. He's just

1063
00:54:36,667 --> 00:54:42,267
Speaker 2: a magnet for all these people. But that's not the

1064
00:54:42,347 --> 00:54:46,147
Speaker 2: end of it. It ends because he's told to come

1065
00:54:46,187 --> 00:54:49,867
Speaker 2: down by the officiating team who give him a yellow card,

1066
00:54:51,027 --> 00:54:55,987
Speaker 2: a yellow card for being up in the stands, giving

1067
00:54:56,067 --> 00:55:01,027
Speaker 2: freely of his time, showing his Kiwi generosity, giving some

1068
00:55:01,067 --> 00:55:05,067
Speaker 2: of those kids a moment they'll remember for many, many,

1069
00:55:05,147 --> 00:55:11,027
Speaker 2: many years. And his reward is a yellow card. I

1070
00:55:11,027 --> 00:55:13,707
Speaker 2: mean he laughed it off at the end. Like I said,

1071
00:55:13,747 --> 00:55:15,667
Speaker 2: it's gone viral. This has been picked up by a

1072
00:55:15,707 --> 00:55:18,747
Speaker 2: lot of overseas sports websites. One of the best lines

1073
00:55:18,787 --> 00:55:21,907
Speaker 2: I read this morning was from The Guardian and said,

1074
00:55:22,267 --> 00:55:26,987
Speaker 2: Chris Wood pulled off the genuinely special achievement of getting

1075
00:55:27,027 --> 00:55:30,227
Speaker 2: his name in the referees notebook, for putting his name

1076
00:55:30,467 --> 00:55:33,507
Speaker 2: in other people's notebooks. Well, that's very clever. Not that

1077
00:55:33,547 --> 00:55:36,547
Speaker 2: people really have notebooks anymore? Do they autograph books in

1078
00:55:36,587 --> 00:55:44,427
Speaker 2: the traditional sense? Simon wolf Wellington identity and football referee.

1079
00:55:44,467 --> 00:55:46,387
Speaker 2: What did you make of that yellow card? Simon? Would

1080
00:55:46,387 --> 00:55:48,667
Speaker 2: you have brandished one if you'd been in that position?

1081
00:55:49,747 --> 00:55:54,827
Speaker 9: Not at all, Pioney, not at all. You know, those

1082
00:55:54,947 --> 00:56:00,107
Speaker 9: kids we're getting some special moments. Football was getting special moments,

1083
00:56:00,267 --> 00:56:04,067
Speaker 9: a special moment right round the world. You know, you're

1084
00:56:04,107 --> 00:56:08,947
Speaker 9: seeing something that was unique, can in no danger to anyone, anybody,

1085
00:56:09,707 --> 00:56:14,427
Speaker 9: and you get a referee taking the attention away from

1086
00:56:14,627 --> 00:56:20,227
Speaker 9: a pretty magnificent hat trick, a really strong all white performance,

1087
00:56:21,027 --> 00:56:26,907
Speaker 9: and it's gaining headlines, you know, around the world, not

1088
00:56:27,507 --> 00:56:33,227
Speaker 9: the proper moments, but the moment that Chris, it's something special,

1089
00:56:33,507 --> 00:56:36,907
Speaker 9: you know, and it's just you know, the spirit of

1090
00:56:36,907 --> 00:56:39,867
Speaker 9: the game. You know, I certainly wouldn't have you know,

1091
00:56:39,907 --> 00:56:41,707
Speaker 9: the most I would have done was was to get

1092
00:56:41,747 --> 00:56:45,107
Speaker 9: a message out and say, you know, be careful.

1093
00:56:45,867 --> 00:56:48,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the only thing I could think of, Simon.

1094
00:56:48,187 --> 00:56:49,787
Speaker 2: The only thing I can think of is that maybe

1095
00:56:50,187 --> 00:56:52,307
Speaker 2: maybe they were a bit worried that big that once

1096
00:56:52,387 --> 00:56:55,067
Speaker 2: word spread that he was there, that a lot of

1097
00:56:55,067 --> 00:56:56,987
Speaker 2: people would have kind of rushed over to that part

1098
00:56:57,027 --> 00:56:59,587
Speaker 2: of the of the you know, the stadium it's all seater,

1099
00:56:59,747 --> 00:57:01,627
Speaker 2: of course, and that would have disrupted the viewing of

1100
00:57:01,707 --> 00:57:03,627
Speaker 2: a few people and things like that. That's the only

1101
00:57:03,667 --> 00:57:04,387
Speaker 2: thing I can think of.

1102
00:57:05,147 --> 00:57:07,627
Speaker 9: Yeah, But I think, you know, with our stadium, and

1103
00:57:07,987 --> 00:57:11,427
Speaker 9: you had to understand that the context of yesterday's game

1104
00:57:11,547 --> 00:57:14,227
Speaker 9: was special because you know, there's all these kids the

1105
00:57:14,587 --> 00:57:19,627
Speaker 9: the it was very pure. You know, the all whites

1106
00:57:19,667 --> 00:57:24,507
Speaker 9: were already six mil up and you just couldn't see

1107
00:57:24,787 --> 00:57:28,347
Speaker 9: that there would be any any issue with it. And

1108
00:57:28,667 --> 00:57:32,307
Speaker 9: I just think, you know, Chris Woods just the special

1109
00:57:32,667 --> 00:57:34,987
Speaker 9: of ol he isn't he Not only that, but he's

1110
00:57:35,067 --> 00:57:38,587
Speaker 9: leading a really great group of youngsters and they're listening

1111
00:57:38,667 --> 00:57:42,267
Speaker 9: to Thailand there. You know what role models they are football,

1112
00:57:42,667 --> 00:57:46,827
Speaker 9: You know, the whole atmosphere and the whole culture of

1113
00:57:47,627 --> 00:57:50,827
Speaker 9: that all white side, not just the the the all

1114
00:57:50,827 --> 00:57:53,747
Speaker 9: white side, but actually New Zealand football at a an

1115
00:57:53,827 --> 00:57:57,307
Speaker 9: elite level at the moment is really really strong. You

1116
00:57:57,667 --> 00:58:00,467
Speaker 9: can you can just see that there's there's great leadership

1117
00:58:01,187 --> 00:58:06,627
Speaker 9: and Chris is showing leadership internationally. He's in that it

1118
00:58:06,747 --> 00:58:11,027
Speaker 9: is the faith of to an agree. I wouldn't say

1119
00:58:11,067 --> 00:58:13,907
Speaker 9: that he isn't actually the face of New Zealand sports

1120
00:58:13,947 --> 00:58:15,387
Speaker 9: internationally at the moment, because he is.

1121
00:58:17,187 --> 00:58:18,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, good assessment. I think he is too.

1122
00:58:19,667 --> 00:58:23,267
Speaker 9: He's now in the New Zealand. Yeah here in New Zealand,

1123
00:58:23,547 --> 00:58:26,587
Speaker 9: yeah we're a rugby playing nation. But you know, the

1124
00:58:26,667 --> 00:58:31,707
Speaker 9: headlines around the world continually about Chris and his performances

1125
00:58:32,267 --> 00:58:32,987
Speaker 9: both on and.

1126
00:58:32,907 --> 00:58:33,587
Speaker 10: Off the field.

1127
00:58:34,147 --> 00:58:36,827
Speaker 9: You know, like you, it wouldn't surprise me if he

1128
00:58:36,907 --> 00:58:39,467
Speaker 9: got one of those big sportsmanship awards at the end

1129
00:58:39,547 --> 00:58:44,027
Speaker 9: of the season, because that's the way that that he's

1130
00:58:45,027 --> 00:58:48,347
Speaker 9: he's acting, you know, and it's a phenomenal role modeling.

1131
00:58:48,907 --> 00:58:49,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, you know.

1132
00:58:50,587 --> 00:58:55,307
Speaker 9: And just in context to what worried me was that

1133
00:58:55,587 --> 00:58:59,307
Speaker 9: had he been on another yellow card, he wouldn't have

1134
00:58:59,307 --> 00:59:00,347
Speaker 9: been playing in the final.

1135
00:59:00,547 --> 00:59:02,547
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've had that mention to me as well by

1136
00:59:02,547 --> 00:59:04,427
Speaker 2: a couple of people this morning, Simon. If he been

1137
00:59:04,467 --> 00:59:06,027
Speaker 2: on a yellow for something else on the game and

1138
00:59:06,067 --> 00:59:08,107
Speaker 2: then he comes off and he got another yellow, that

1139
00:59:08,147 --> 00:59:10,267
Speaker 2: makes a red and he's suspended for the finals. So yeah,

1140
00:59:10,307 --> 00:59:12,507
Speaker 2: that would have been I don't think we would have

1141
00:59:12,507 --> 00:59:14,827
Speaker 2: been joking about it quite as much today if that

1142
00:59:14,867 --> 00:59:15,667
Speaker 2: had been the case.

1143
00:59:16,507 --> 00:59:21,067
Speaker 9: We would interest Bene. You know, I think as a referee,

1144
00:59:21,947 --> 00:59:24,347
Speaker 9: you control the game. I thought referee control became pretty

1145
00:59:24,387 --> 00:59:27,427
Speaker 9: well he did. It was just that it was just

1146
00:59:27,507 --> 00:59:29,547
Speaker 9: that moment, and I had that feeling that it may

1147
00:59:29,547 --> 00:59:32,627
Speaker 9: have come through an air piece from someone way up high,

1148
00:59:32,707 --> 00:59:36,107
Speaker 9: you know, to say, you know, do something. But I

1149
00:59:36,147 --> 00:59:40,907
Speaker 9: think that in the moment he probably just aired and

1150
00:59:41,387 --> 00:59:43,907
Speaker 9: how it was managed, Yeah.

1151
00:59:43,507 --> 00:59:46,107
Speaker 2: Simon I totally totally agree, and yeah, good viewpoint from

1152
00:59:46,107 --> 00:59:48,947
Speaker 2: you as well as somebody who has been a referee

1153
00:59:48,987 --> 00:59:51,347
Speaker 2: for many years understands the game, has a good feel

1154
00:59:51,387 --> 00:59:53,027
Speaker 2: for the game, and I think that's probably what was

1155
00:59:53,347 --> 00:59:55,347
Speaker 2: lacking here. And you're right maybe he was. You know,

1156
00:59:55,467 --> 00:59:58,227
Speaker 2: there's no way that Norbert hall Arda the referee, would

1157
00:59:58,267 --> 01:00:00,387
Speaker 2: have seen Chris up in the crowd. I'm sure, as

1158
01:00:00,427 --> 01:00:03,227
Speaker 2: you say, he was alerted to it by the fourth official,

1159
01:00:03,267 --> 01:00:05,667
Speaker 2: who might have had someone in his ear telling, you know,

1160
01:00:05,747 --> 01:00:08,227
Speaker 2: telling him that the you know that a rule was

1161
01:00:08,267 --> 01:00:11,787
Speaker 2: being breached of some sort. You know, there was no

1162
01:00:13,227 --> 01:00:15,747
Speaker 2: fuel to the game by the issuing of that yellow card,

1163
01:00:15,747 --> 01:00:19,667
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure that's entirely the referee's fault. In

1164
01:00:19,707 --> 01:00:22,427
Speaker 2: many ways though, it's got all eyes on New Zealand.

1165
01:00:22,467 --> 01:00:24,627
Speaker 2: Like I said, this has gone viral around the place

1166
01:00:24,987 --> 01:00:27,427
Speaker 2: yet to you, Simon, thanks for calling in. Someone has

1167
01:00:27,467 --> 01:00:31,827
Speaker 2: said here it's not about the kids. There's time for

1168
01:00:31,907 --> 01:00:34,907
Speaker 2: that after the game, be professional and follow the rules.

1169
01:00:35,427 --> 01:00:38,587
Speaker 2: I would say that, actually it's all about the kids.

1170
01:00:40,347 --> 01:00:42,907
Speaker 2: That stadium last night was fall to the well. I

1171
01:00:42,947 --> 01:00:44,427
Speaker 2: was gonna say fall to the brim. There were twenty

1172
01:00:44,467 --> 01:00:48,507
Speaker 2: one thousand there a huge number of kids who are

1173
01:00:48,547 --> 01:00:53,587
Speaker 2: there to see their heroes. So for me, it's largely

1174
01:00:53,667 --> 01:00:55,827
Speaker 2: about the kids. And when you say this time for

1175
01:00:55,867 --> 01:00:58,147
Speaker 2: that after the game, well a couple of things. First

1176
01:00:58,187 --> 01:01:01,467
Speaker 2: thing I'll say is this that Chris would continued after

1177
01:01:01,507 --> 01:01:04,747
Speaker 2: the game to sign as many autographs as he could,

1178
01:01:04,747 --> 01:01:06,987
Speaker 2: to have as many selfish as he could. But the

1179
01:01:07,027 --> 01:01:09,107
Speaker 2: all Whites were on a charter flight last night out

1180
01:01:09,107 --> 01:01:12,267
Speaker 2: of Wellington. They had to be out of the stadium

1181
01:01:12,267 --> 01:01:13,867
Speaker 2: at a certain time to get out to the airport

1182
01:01:13,987 --> 01:01:16,147
Speaker 2: so that they could all get on board the charter

1183
01:01:16,227 --> 01:01:19,667
Speaker 2: flight get up to Auckland. From what I understand, they

1184
01:01:19,707 --> 01:01:21,507
Speaker 2: all got their heads down last night about one thirty

1185
01:01:21,507 --> 01:01:26,627
Speaker 2: two o'clock, so there was a bit of time pressure

1186
01:01:26,827 --> 01:01:31,107
Speaker 2: on them. And not just Chris Wood, but many many

1187
01:01:31,147 --> 01:01:34,667
Speaker 2: of those players stayed out last night, well after the

1188
01:01:34,667 --> 01:01:40,867
Speaker 2: final whistle to sign autographs, to have selfies. And you

1189
01:01:40,907 --> 01:01:44,307
Speaker 2: can perhaps understand it with younger players, new players, it's

1190
01:01:44,307 --> 01:01:45,987
Speaker 2: all a bit new to them. It's all like kind

1191
01:01:45,987 --> 01:01:48,147
Speaker 2: of exciting, Oh, people are asking me for a photo

1192
01:01:48,227 --> 01:01:52,827
Speaker 2: and an autograph of selfie whatever it might be. But

1193
01:01:52,907 --> 01:01:54,667
Speaker 2: for Chris Wood, he doesn't have to do that sort

1194
01:01:54,707 --> 01:01:56,547
Speaker 2: of thing. If it doesn't want to, it doesn't have to.

1195
01:01:57,267 --> 01:02:02,107
Speaker 2: He's under no obligation to do it. But I feel

1196
01:02:02,107 --> 01:02:07,187
Speaker 2: like he leads in that way because his team mats

1197
01:02:07,187 --> 01:02:08,307
Speaker 2: will look at him and say, well, if it's good

1198
01:02:08,347 --> 01:02:10,627
Speaker 2: enough for Chris Wood to sign autographs and have selfies,

1199
01:02:12,107 --> 01:02:16,827
Speaker 2: then I'm damn sure we're going to do it. I

1200
01:02:16,947 --> 01:02:19,387
Speaker 2: just thought, you know, the yellow card last night. In

1201
01:02:19,427 --> 01:02:21,547
Speaker 2: many ways it has shone a light on Chris Ward

1202
01:02:21,547 --> 01:02:24,147
Speaker 2: and what a tremendous human he is, and so in

1203
01:02:24,147 --> 01:02:26,347
Speaker 2: many ways it's actually had a silver lining in that way,

1204
01:02:26,667 --> 01:02:29,107
Speaker 2: because every narrative I've seen, apart from the odd text

1205
01:02:29,187 --> 01:02:30,987
Speaker 2: like the one we just got here, have said what

1206
01:02:31,067 --> 01:02:34,787
Speaker 2: a cool thing for him to you know, this is

1207
01:02:35,067 --> 01:02:39,307
Speaker 2: he's pretty famous, it's one of the leading scorers in

1208
01:02:39,347 --> 01:02:43,947
Speaker 2: the Premier League. Can't walk down the streets of Nottingham

1209
01:02:43,987 --> 01:02:47,867
Speaker 2: without being set upon by fans in a positive way.

1210
01:02:47,907 --> 01:02:51,187
Speaker 2: Of course, you know, for him just to wander up

1211
01:02:51,227 --> 01:02:54,627
Speaker 2: into the stand and start signing autographs, it is so key,

1212
01:02:54,667 --> 01:02:56,947
Speaker 2: we so key, we.

1213
01:02:58,827 --> 01:02:59,187
Speaker 11: Love it.

1214
01:03:01,307 --> 01:03:02,987
Speaker 2: Oh, eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty, you got a

1215
01:03:03,027 --> 01:03:05,107
Speaker 2: couple of texts through here. Let's get to the phones though,

1216
01:03:05,587 --> 01:03:07,347
Speaker 2: Hello George China. What's going on?

1217
01:03:08,707 --> 01:03:11,187
Speaker 23: We watched the soccer last night, and we watched some

1218
01:03:11,267 --> 01:03:13,947
Speaker 23: of the rugby, and I just want to comment on

1219
01:03:13,987 --> 01:03:15,947
Speaker 23: your commentary.

1220
01:03:16,947 --> 01:03:20,187
Speaker 2: Yes please mate, of course, of course I've got I'm

1221
01:03:20,227 --> 01:03:22,467
Speaker 2: open to all kinds of critique.

1222
01:03:22,827 --> 01:03:25,307
Speaker 23: Right, this one has nothing to do with you, though.

1223
01:03:25,587 --> 01:03:30,027
Speaker 23: Your verbal commentary is very good, but the sound was crap.

1224
01:03:30,707 --> 01:03:32,827
Speaker 23: It sounded like you guys are talking out of a

1225
01:03:32,907 --> 01:03:35,547
Speaker 23: cell phone when you're doing your commentary, and the crowd

1226
01:03:35,627 --> 01:03:38,787
Speaker 23: alwis it disappeared to just a faint background swapped to

1227
01:03:38,827 --> 01:03:42,907
Speaker 23: the rugby. Full sound from the commentary based on the

1228
01:03:43,027 --> 01:03:47,107
Speaker 23: voice and everything, a nice full commentary verbal sound, and

1229
01:03:47,147 --> 01:03:49,747
Speaker 23: the crowd was all in on the TV. On the

1230
01:03:49,747 --> 01:03:52,587
Speaker 23: sound as well. Go back to the soccer, it was

1231
01:03:52,707 --> 01:03:54,387
Speaker 23: like dead, is it deliberate or what?

1232
01:03:54,707 --> 01:03:57,027
Speaker 2: No, it's not deliberate, George, and I was made aware

1233
01:03:57,027 --> 01:04:00,067
Speaker 2: of that actually during the game, and there's very little

1234
01:04:00,107 --> 01:04:02,667
Speaker 2: I could actually do about it. Obviously that's not my Yeah,

1235
01:04:02,667 --> 01:04:03,907
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know you're not. I know

1236
01:04:03,907 --> 01:04:07,227
Speaker 2: you're not. Yeah, I think there were without having had

1237
01:04:07,227 --> 01:04:09,107
Speaker 2: a debrief yet, there were some issues with the sound

1238
01:04:09,147 --> 01:04:12,027
Speaker 2: and they are going to absolutely fix it for Monday night.

1239
01:04:12,067 --> 01:04:15,187
Speaker 2: I appreciate you bring it up, but yeah, it wasn't

1240
01:04:15,787 --> 01:04:17,747
Speaker 2: deliberate any in any way, shape or form.

1241
01:04:17,787 --> 01:04:20,747
Speaker 23: No, it's nothing to do with you. It's the technical guys,

1242
01:04:21,027 --> 01:04:23,827
Speaker 23: and I'm just wondering, is that sound for the soccer

1243
01:04:23,907 --> 01:04:27,347
Speaker 23: the same setup, studio sound wise as it is for

1244
01:04:27,387 --> 01:04:27,827
Speaker 23: the rugby.

1245
01:04:27,907 --> 01:04:30,387
Speaker 2: It wasn't last night, George. No, it was a different provider.

1246
01:04:31,227 --> 01:04:32,947
Speaker 2: So the rugby you would have been watching last night

1247
01:04:33,027 --> 01:04:37,227
Speaker 2: was on Skysport. Supposedly last night was a different, different operation.

1248
01:04:37,467 --> 01:04:39,987
Speaker 2: So yeah, rugby, but.

1249
01:04:39,907 --> 01:04:42,027
Speaker 23: When they've got the rugby at the stadium, it's a

1250
01:04:42,027 --> 01:04:45,187
Speaker 23: totally different sound, direct and sound from their whole thing's

1251
01:04:45,347 --> 01:04:47,627
Speaker 23: it's like you're there, But last night it was like

1252
01:04:47,707 --> 01:04:49,107
Speaker 23: you're setting on a cell phone.

1253
01:04:49,227 --> 01:04:51,267
Speaker 2: Yeah no, George, I take your point and look at

1254
01:04:51,347 --> 01:04:54,107
Speaker 2: it was a different provider. I know they're aware of

1255
01:04:54,147 --> 01:04:58,147
Speaker 2: it and absolutely working hard to fix it for for

1256
01:04:58,227 --> 01:05:05,547
Speaker 2: Monday night. Appreciate you call though very much. Indeed, I

1257
01:05:05,627 --> 01:05:07,507
Speaker 2: agree with the tech. If a rule was broken, then

1258
01:05:07,507 --> 01:05:10,667
Speaker 2: the ref is completely right. What are rules for then?

1259
01:05:10,987 --> 01:05:13,667
Speaker 2: If it's a stupid rule, then get it removed. Yeah,

1260
01:05:13,707 --> 01:05:19,107
Speaker 2: and another text through here. I'm from Argentina. These FIFA

1261
01:05:19,187 --> 01:05:21,987
Speaker 2: rules on Woods yellow are understood because of the danger

1262
01:05:22,387 --> 01:05:25,427
Speaker 2: the players are exposed to. But this is one of

1263
01:05:25,427 --> 01:05:29,467
Speaker 2: the reasons I'm here. Besides, have you seen Leonel Messi's

1264
01:05:29,507 --> 01:05:34,627
Speaker 2: reaction to field invaders. Yeah, this wasn't a pitch invasion.

1265
01:05:34,787 --> 01:05:38,187
Speaker 2: This was Chris Wood going up into the stand, you know,

1266
01:05:38,747 --> 01:05:43,107
Speaker 2: to meet some of his fans. Now, he clearly and

1267
01:05:43,267 --> 01:05:46,747
Speaker 2: correctly assessed that there was no danger to his health.

1268
01:05:47,587 --> 01:05:50,187
Speaker 2: He was going up to sign a few autographs. So guy,

1269
01:05:50,187 --> 01:05:52,427
Speaker 2: I get it. I get what you're saying as well

1270
01:05:52,787 --> 01:05:55,507
Speaker 2: that you know, in some places going into the crowd

1271
01:05:55,587 --> 01:05:57,467
Speaker 2: can be fraught with danger because you don't know what

1272
01:05:57,507 --> 01:05:59,387
Speaker 2: you're going to get. That's why the crowd aren't till

1273
01:05:59,427 --> 01:06:01,787
Speaker 2: out on the field. Then a ladder just run out

1274
01:06:01,787 --> 01:06:04,027
Speaker 2: willy nilly. So I guess the reverse supplies as well.

1275
01:06:04,387 --> 01:06:08,147
Speaker 2: But at the heart of all of this was Chris

1276
01:06:08,187 --> 01:06:12,187
Speaker 2: Wood trying to make memories for young kids, trying to

1277
01:06:12,227 --> 01:06:15,067
Speaker 2: get around as many of those who had turned up

1278
01:06:15,147 --> 01:06:19,147
Speaker 2: as he could, to shake their hand, to have a photo,

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Speaker 2: to sign an autograph, whatever it might be. You know,

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Speaker 2: I understand that rules are there for a reason, but

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Speaker 2: can we hover above the rule book just for a

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Speaker 1: to Bibi.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five to two. Funny ol game of Pook Kobe

1311
01:08:06,787 --> 01:08:09,387
Speaker 2: last night, the Chiefs surviving a second half fight back

1312
01:08:09,427 --> 01:08:13,107
Speaker 2: from a one to pacificate to prevail fifty thirty five.

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01:08:13,147 --> 01:08:14,627
Speaker 3: To start again. Hear the Chiefs are go down the

1314
01:08:14,707 --> 01:08:17,787
Speaker 3: right handline and by the one, and it's how really

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01:08:17,827 --> 01:08:20,947
Speaker 3: down the left flank flank pitting on the legs. There's

1316
01:08:20,987 --> 01:08:24,867
Speaker 3: a way and they score again and maybe just one

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01:08:24,907 --> 01:08:25,427
Speaker 3: ain't over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it was a funny old game. As I say,

1319
01:08:28,747 --> 01:08:32,187
Speaker 2: the tabletop is conceding twenty eight unanswered points in the

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Speaker 2: second half after leading forty three to seven at halftime.

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Speaker 2: Chiefs assistant coach David Hill is with us. Would you

1322
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Speaker 2: like to talk about the first half or the second half?

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Speaker 11: First, Wow, I'm the defense coach, so I'd prefer not

1324
01:08:47,147 --> 01:08:53,267
Speaker 11: to talk about the second half. It was definitely a

1325
01:08:53,267 --> 01:08:55,787
Speaker 11: game or two hands. They came off the buy and

1326
01:08:55,867 --> 01:08:58,067
Speaker 11: joked that they were still on the buy and we're

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Speaker 11: going into the buy, and we thought we went to

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Speaker 11: the buy at halftime. So yeah, it was a weird one.

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Speaker 11: But it was some good stuff for both sides on

1330
01:09:05,827 --> 01:09:08,067
Speaker 11: their teching of the ball us on the first half

1331
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Speaker 11: and then in the second half, so good spectacle. But yeah,

1332
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Speaker 11: not ideal for us to lapse like that in that

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Speaker 11: second half.

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Speaker 2: Were there any real nervous moments when they got with

1335
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Speaker 2: them what eight points near the end?

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Speaker 11: I think time was always on our side, I think

1337
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Speaker 11: because we built up such a big lead in that

1338
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Speaker 11: first half and felt like when we when we needed

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Speaker 11: to turn the dial up, we could. So yeah, it

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01:09:31,867 --> 01:09:34,267
Speaker 11: was a weird one, like it's you know, they had

1341
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Speaker 11: such a big lead and then have that chip away

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Speaker 11: so easily. That was a concerning but not nervous. More

1343
01:09:39,987 --> 01:09:43,027
Speaker 11: and more frustration and a little bit of a little

1344
01:09:43,027 --> 01:09:45,827
Speaker 11: bit disappointment and how that panned out, but if they'd

1345
01:09:45,827 --> 01:09:47,827
Speaker 11: scored again, then well we would have been it would

1346
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Speaker 11: have been touchy bum time. But managed to come away

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Speaker 11: with it. So yeah, not a not a not a

1348
01:09:51,987 --> 01:09:54,787
Speaker 11: harringdus result heating into the BUI. So it was what

1349
01:09:54,827 --> 01:09:55,147
Speaker 11: it was.

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Speaker 2: What did you see through your defense coach eyes in

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01:09:58,947 --> 01:09:59,707
Speaker 2: that second half?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it got on the wrong side of the ref

1353
01:10:03,587 --> 01:10:05,707
Speaker 11: pretty quickly in that early in that second half. And

1354
01:10:06,427 --> 01:10:09,267
Speaker 11: again the referees are doing a great job around the

1355
01:10:09,307 --> 01:10:11,067
Speaker 11: flow of the game and the speed of the game.

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Speaker 11: And one of the things I think most of the

1357
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Speaker 11: d coaches and the coaches in general are finding, once

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Speaker 11: momentum swings and you're on the wrong side of it,

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Speaker 11: it's actually really, really tough to get stops and get

1360
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Speaker 11: back in the game. So we managed to give a

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01:10:25,267 --> 01:10:26,787
Speaker 11: couple of good stops in a goal line and get

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Speaker 11: some turnovers and then ended up back there again. So

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01:10:30,467 --> 01:10:33,667
Speaker 11: the territory is a big one, and when momentum's gone

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01:10:35,587 --> 01:10:37,987
Speaker 11: in favor of the other team, it is it is

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Speaker 11: tough to stop. So most of the coaches around there

1366
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Speaker 11: are trying to figure out some strategies and some legal

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Speaker 11: ways around stopping momentum. So that was the disappointing things

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Speaker 11: we did a couple of times and didn't didn't do

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Speaker 11: it enough.

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Speaker 2: Is there also a part of it that you're ahead

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Speaker 2: by so much at halftime? What was it forty three

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Speaker 2: to seven at half time, that it's it's hard to

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Speaker 2: put your foot on the throat when you're when you're

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01:10:58,027 --> 01:11:01,027
Speaker 2: so far ahead after the first forty Ye.

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Speaker 11: Yes, yes, you'd prefer not to use that as an excuse,

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01:11:05,667 --> 01:11:07,267
Speaker 11: but it was at the back of our mind a

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01:11:07,307 --> 01:11:10,107
Speaker 11: little bit. We made earlier changes and you know that

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01:11:10,387 --> 01:11:12,107
Speaker 11: by playing so well in the first half, it gave

1379
01:11:12,187 --> 01:11:14,667
Speaker 11: us a little bit of room to move in terms

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01:11:14,667 --> 01:11:17,787
Speaker 11: of our subs and our and our players come off

1381
01:11:17,787 --> 01:11:20,267
Speaker 11: the bench. But that will be the you know, the

1382
01:11:21,547 --> 01:11:24,267
Speaker 11: it's a poor excuse, but there's a small element of it.

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01:11:24,307 --> 01:11:26,947
Speaker 11: But we'd highlighted that at halftime that that was the

1384
01:11:26,947 --> 01:11:28,667
Speaker 11: the biggest streap for us, was us just taking the

1385
01:11:28,707 --> 01:11:30,387
Speaker 11: foot off the throat a little bit and being a

1386
01:11:30,427 --> 01:11:33,067
Speaker 11: little bit not complacent, but not as not as urgent.

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Speaker 8: As we liked.

1388
01:11:33,707 --> 01:11:37,227
Speaker 11: And yeah, something that we can you know, we'll head

1389
01:11:37,307 --> 01:11:39,467
Speaker 11: up to the buy and have a good week, but

1390
01:11:39,867 --> 01:11:42,667
Speaker 11: have to highlight that next week before we sort of

1391
01:11:42,667 --> 01:11:44,107
Speaker 11: prepare to play the Reds at home.

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Speaker 2: Mana Pacifica have conceded the most points this year, but

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Speaker 2: they've also scored more points than anyone else except for

1394
01:11:50,907 --> 01:11:55,307
Speaker 2: you guys. Have they become Have they become a trickier Opponentna?

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Speaker 11: Oh, absolutely yeah, And that's to be fair, that's it's

1396
01:11:59,667 --> 01:12:02,307
Speaker 11: one of those we previewed it scoring you know, five

1397
01:12:02,307 --> 01:12:05,187
Speaker 11: to six tris a game. And their attack and there

1398
01:12:05,667 --> 01:12:10,227
Speaker 11: you know, like have the lead Pelle Greenee, the wingers,

1399
01:12:10,227 --> 01:12:13,387
Speaker 11: both the wingers. Even though Alamala wasn't playing like tom

1400
01:12:13,427 --> 01:12:16,347
Speaker 11: of for our you know this hit pieces was going

1401
01:12:16,347 --> 01:12:19,267
Speaker 11: better and Ivadia had played then that's a bit of

1402
01:12:19,307 --> 01:12:22,187
Speaker 11: emotional stuff as well. So their attack is improving. And

1403
01:12:22,507 --> 01:12:24,747
Speaker 11: again you know, like like I said with the d

1404
01:12:24,827 --> 01:12:29,427
Speaker 11: stuff as when when you're under the pump and the

1405
01:12:29,147 --> 01:12:32,187
Speaker 11: opposition has got momentum, it's hard to stop. But they

1406
01:12:32,227 --> 01:12:33,947
Speaker 11: are a hard team to stop once they get gone.

1407
01:12:33,987 --> 01:12:36,987
Speaker 11: So they're definitely improved and well coached and going good.

1408
01:12:37,067 --> 01:12:39,507
Speaker 11: So we'll get them again later in the year and

1409
01:12:39,787 --> 01:12:40,987
Speaker 11: and be well prepared for that one.

1410
01:12:41,147 --> 01:12:42,987
Speaker 2: Well you're going good to and too. The buy well

1411
01:12:42,987 --> 01:12:45,707
Speaker 2: clear at the top. Five wins and a loss how

1412
01:12:45,747 --> 01:12:48,507
Speaker 2: satisfied are you in general terms as a coach and

1413
01:12:48,547 --> 01:12:49,827
Speaker 2: group with the first six rounds.

1414
01:12:51,627 --> 01:12:54,907
Speaker 11: Yeah, we had a good coaches meeting sort of towards

1415
01:12:54,907 --> 01:12:57,347
Speaker 11: the end of last week. You know, probably had to

1416
01:12:57,347 --> 01:13:00,467
Speaker 11: play the Blues twice, the Crusaders once, the Brumbies once,

1417
01:13:00,507 --> 01:13:03,667
Speaker 11: and the Dura and Fiji. So not the easiest draw

1418
01:13:04,027 --> 01:13:07,627
Speaker 11: by any stretch. So you know, like a five and

1419
01:13:07,667 --> 01:13:10,147
Speaker 11: one going into the Buyo. You know, we would have

1420
01:13:10,147 --> 01:13:13,667
Speaker 11: taken that absolutely at the start of the season. So

1421
01:13:13,667 --> 01:13:16,187
Speaker 11: we really really content around lots of stuff, right you.

1422
01:13:16,267 --> 01:13:18,147
Speaker 11: I've changed a few things about how we've played and

1423
01:13:18,867 --> 01:13:22,347
Speaker 11: also had to deal with some tough games, so I

1424
01:13:22,467 --> 01:13:25,267
Speaker 11: feel that set us up pretty well. So we're content.

1425
01:13:25,307 --> 01:13:27,987
Speaker 11: But it's the long old comp and you know, the

1426
01:13:27,987 --> 01:13:30,827
Speaker 11: weather all change and daylight saving will stop and all

1427
01:13:30,867 --> 01:13:32,347
Speaker 11: of a sudden things will be a little bit different,

1428
01:13:32,427 --> 01:13:35,107
Speaker 11: so aware that we'll have to adapt and just as

1429
01:13:35,147 --> 01:13:36,947
Speaker 11: we go forward. But yeah, content.

1430
01:13:37,627 --> 01:13:41,627
Speaker 2: You've also, David used thirty five players in six matches

1431
01:13:41,667 --> 01:13:44,707
Speaker 2: this season. In the entirety of last season you only

1432
01:13:44,827 --> 01:13:49,147
Speaker 2: used thirty nine, So is your depth being tested?

1433
01:13:49,147 --> 01:13:52,347
Speaker 11: Are we been here a little bit of that's actually

1434
01:13:52,347 --> 01:13:55,267
Speaker 11: by design. We have had you know, just like everyone else,

1435
01:13:55,307 --> 01:13:58,187
Speaker 11: we've we've had our injuries and we've lost players along

1436
01:13:58,267 --> 01:14:00,267
Speaker 11: the way. We're a bit short on the outside backs

1437
01:14:00,307 --> 01:14:04,427
Speaker 11: and still got a wild Statsa and a Josh Lord

1438
01:14:05,307 --> 01:14:08,267
Speaker 11: and a n Nice Sutur to come back. So you know,

1439
01:14:09,307 --> 01:14:11,467
Speaker 11: I think it's probably a reality of the comp that

1440
01:14:11,507 --> 01:14:13,787
Speaker 11: you'll you'll probably need to use between thirty five and

1441
01:14:13,787 --> 01:14:17,227
Speaker 11: forty players and sort of happy to have that in

1442
01:14:17,227 --> 01:14:19,907
Speaker 11: the back of your mind. Accordingly, when we don't make

1443
01:14:19,947 --> 01:14:22,627
Speaker 11: a we make a conscious efort to try and give

1444
01:14:22,627 --> 01:14:24,747
Speaker 11: everyone a crack early on, whether it's in pre season

1445
01:14:24,787 --> 01:14:27,667
Speaker 11: or in the game. So James Thompson made his debut yesterday.

1446
01:14:28,667 --> 01:14:30,627
Speaker 11: You know, it was a big one to Homer, County's

1447
01:14:30,667 --> 01:14:34,267
Speaker 11: captain and wanting to represent the Chief, so he deserved that.

1448
01:14:34,427 --> 01:14:36,547
Speaker 11: And yeah, I think the depth is something you have

1449
01:14:36,627 --> 01:14:39,267
Speaker 11: to be conscious of, but it's probably a little bit

1450
01:14:39,307 --> 01:14:40,827
Speaker 11: easier if you get a couple of early wins. That

1451
01:14:40,907 --> 01:14:45,667
Speaker 11: makes those changes sort of easier to deal with. So yeah,

1452
01:14:45,667 --> 01:14:47,467
Speaker 11: building the depth is important and you're going to need

1453
01:14:47,467 --> 01:14:49,147
Speaker 11: it later on. Like you said, it puts thirty nine

1454
01:14:49,147 --> 01:14:52,587
Speaker 11: to forty players in a year. That's that's that's quite

1455
01:14:52,587 --> 01:14:54,587
Speaker 11: a few when you think you may put twenty three

1456
01:14:54,627 --> 01:14:57,467
Speaker 11: out on the day. So some challenges for everyone there.

1457
01:14:57,427 --> 01:14:59,307
Speaker 2: And everyone's here's pricked up when you said, Wallace a

1458
01:14:59,387 --> 01:15:03,907
Speaker 2: t t any updated time frame on his possible on

1459
01:15:03,947 --> 01:15:05,147
Speaker 2: his possible return.

1460
01:15:06,387 --> 01:15:08,467
Speaker 11: So it's one of those ones we decided not to

1461
01:15:08,467 --> 01:15:11,427
Speaker 11: talk about it and don't get too excited that if

1462
01:15:11,267 --> 01:15:13,667
Speaker 11: the psier of the dock or someone says, oh, he

1463
01:15:13,827 --> 01:15:16,387
Speaker 11: might be back by this round, you start counting down

1464
01:15:16,427 --> 01:15:19,027
Speaker 11: the days, which is unfair Wallace, and unfair probably on

1465
01:15:19,027 --> 01:15:24,267
Speaker 11: our medical people say yeah, there's no, Yeah, I don't.

1466
01:15:24,267 --> 01:15:27,427
Speaker 11: I don't actually have an update or a date that

1467
01:15:27,507 --> 01:15:29,747
Speaker 11: I know that I could I could say. But he's

1468
01:15:30,147 --> 01:15:32,027
Speaker 11: he's you know, he's around the place. He's running, and

1469
01:15:32,027 --> 01:15:34,867
Speaker 11: he's he's looking good, he's keen. He's such a great,

1470
01:15:34,907 --> 01:15:38,707
Speaker 11: amazing personality that it's just nice to see him smile

1471
01:15:38,747 --> 01:15:41,747
Speaker 11: and in the gym working hard. So that'll be a

1472
01:15:41,747 --> 01:15:43,547
Speaker 11: good little boost for us as well, like you know,

1473
01:15:43,627 --> 01:15:46,467
Speaker 11: like he had a breakthrough year and and didn't pay

1474
01:15:46,507 --> 01:15:48,067
Speaker 11: too badly for a few tifts, so it would be

1475
01:15:48,147 --> 01:15:49,387
Speaker 11: nice to have him back and give us a bit

1476
01:15:49,387 --> 01:15:50,227
Speaker 11: of a boost on both.

1477
01:15:50,107 --> 01:15:51,907
Speaker 2: Sides of the ball, right, So you do expecting back

1478
01:15:51,907 --> 01:15:53,547
Speaker 2: at some stakes the Super Rugby season.

1479
01:15:54,627 --> 01:15:57,147
Speaker 11: That, yeah, that's the plan. I think it was always

1480
01:15:57,187 --> 01:16:00,107
Speaker 11: that he might get back towards the end of the

1481
01:16:00,467 --> 01:16:03,027
Speaker 11: rounds and potentially be available for the finals. That was,

1482
01:16:03,147 --> 01:16:05,147
Speaker 11: you know, that was the original plan, and I'm not

1483
01:16:05,147 --> 01:16:07,187
Speaker 11: sure where it's out at the moment, but he's Yeah,

1484
01:16:07,387 --> 01:16:09,707
Speaker 11: he's smiley, he's cheeky, he's looking good.

1485
01:16:09,827 --> 01:16:12,667
Speaker 2: Good updates, good update, excellent, David. All right, we'll enjoy

1486
01:16:12,707 --> 01:16:14,787
Speaker 2: the buye you give you guys a few days off.

1487
01:16:14,787 --> 01:16:16,507
Speaker 2: They've got to far flung parts of the country, do

1488
01:16:16,587 --> 01:16:18,147
Speaker 2: they and relax a little bit before you get them

1489
01:16:18,147 --> 01:16:20,027
Speaker 2: back in ahead of your next game.

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Speaker 11: Yeah. Well, because we were supposed to play this game

1491
01:16:23,027 --> 01:16:25,347
Speaker 11: in Tonga, so yes, I think a few treble plans

1492
01:16:26,027 --> 01:16:28,987
Speaker 11: we're starting from Tonga that had to get adjusted. So

1493
01:16:29,387 --> 01:16:31,387
Speaker 11: I think probably a bit more local than it than

1494
01:16:31,427 --> 01:16:33,587
Speaker 11: it was originally intenders. I think there was a few

1495
01:16:33,587 --> 01:16:36,307
Speaker 11: people who would have probably just stayed in Tonga or

1496
01:16:36,347 --> 01:16:39,387
Speaker 11: gone to another island. But yep, they'll do what they

1497
01:16:39,427 --> 01:16:41,227
Speaker 11: need to do when they've ent it. So it's like

1498
01:16:41,267 --> 01:16:42,987
Speaker 11: I said, five and one heading into it, they can

1499
01:16:43,467 --> 01:16:45,507
Speaker 11: they can refresh and I think I've got a message

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01:16:45,507 --> 01:16:47,427
Speaker 11: abou an hour ago from the S and C just

1501
01:16:47,427 --> 01:16:49,187
Speaker 11: giving them their program WHI they're away, so I'm sure

1502
01:16:49,187 --> 01:16:50,067
Speaker 11: they'd love them to see that.

1503
01:16:50,627 --> 01:16:54,547
Speaker 2: They are well on a good first six games. David,

1504
01:16:54,587 --> 01:16:56,107
Speaker 2: your top of the table. Enjoyed the buy mate, Thanks

1505
01:16:56,107 --> 01:16:57,427
Speaker 2: for chatting. Always enjoy catching up.

1506
01:16:57,547 --> 01:16:59,467
Speaker 11: Awesome cheers mate, Thank you, no, thank you, David.

1507
01:16:59,507 --> 01:17:01,747
Speaker 2: David Hill, Assistant coach of the Chiefs. It's call it

1508
01:17:01,787 --> 01:17:03,147
Speaker 2: to two.

1509
01:17:03,427 --> 01:17:07,707
Speaker 1: You be the TMO. Have your say on eighty Weekend

1510
01:17:07,827 --> 01:17:12,187
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason hin and GJ. Gunerholmes, New Zealand's most

1511
01:17:12,227 --> 01:17:13,707
Speaker 1: trusted Owen Builder News Talk.

1512
01:17:14,547 --> 01:17:17,267
Speaker 2: Let's get you to Australia. Our Australian correspondent Adam P.

1513
01:17:17,467 --> 01:17:20,307
Speaker 2: Cockers here. Let's start with usman Kowaja always seems to

1514
01:17:20,307 --> 01:17:22,347
Speaker 2: be and around the head lines. What's the story with

1515
01:17:22,587 --> 01:17:23,427
Speaker 2: Ozzy this week?

1516
01:17:24,067 --> 01:17:27,227
Speaker 24: Yeah, this has blown up, blown up yesterday. So Ouzzy

1517
01:17:27,827 --> 01:17:31,547
Speaker 24: didn't play the last Shield game down in South Australia

1518
01:17:31,627 --> 01:17:33,587
Speaker 24: and a lot of people just assumed that he just

1519
01:17:33,747 --> 01:17:35,227
Speaker 24: wanted to skip it so he could go to the

1520
01:17:35,267 --> 01:17:40,187
Speaker 24: Australian Grand Prix. And it brought about the thought that

1521
01:17:40,467 --> 01:17:42,427
Speaker 24: all these guys are just picking and choosing when they

1522
01:17:42,467 --> 01:17:44,187
Speaker 24: can be bothered to play for their state when they're

1523
01:17:44,227 --> 01:17:48,227
Speaker 24: not playing for their country. And Ozzie took umbrage at

1524
01:17:48,227 --> 01:17:50,707
Speaker 24: that and came out and delivered his own press conference

1525
01:17:50,787 --> 01:17:53,787
Speaker 24: yesterday and laid down his side of the story, which

1526
01:17:55,187 --> 01:17:59,067
Speaker 24: said that basically he reported a hamstring problem to Cricket Australia,

1527
01:17:59,107 --> 01:18:02,067
Speaker 24: their physios, the Queensland physios. Now none of this is

1528
01:18:02,107 --> 01:18:05,067
Speaker 24: a problem. If if the head of Queensland Cricket didn't

1529
01:18:05,107 --> 01:18:08,547
Speaker 24: come out before that, how disappointed he was. And so

1530
01:18:09,187 --> 01:18:12,507
Speaker 24: Joe Dawes, former cricketer. There's a bit of a bit

1531
01:18:12,507 --> 01:18:15,507
Speaker 24: of beef between those two and where the truth lies

1532
01:18:15,587 --> 01:18:17,867
Speaker 24: exactly remains to be seen. But you've got to take

1533
01:18:17,867 --> 01:18:21,027
Speaker 24: Busy on face value. I'd say that, Yeah, Joe Dawes

1534
01:18:21,067 --> 01:18:23,547
Speaker 24: said he didn't know about this hamstring issue and it

1535
01:18:23,587 --> 01:18:26,427
Speaker 24: was like basically alluding to the fact that it's concocted

1536
01:18:26,467 --> 01:18:29,827
Speaker 24: and you know, he's just skipping around his responsibility. So

1537
01:18:29,827 --> 01:18:34,347
Speaker 24: it's all one big mess. And as he does, he

1538
01:18:34,667 --> 01:18:36,387
Speaker 24: came out and said it his side of the story

1539
01:18:36,427 --> 01:18:37,107
Speaker 24: pretty plainly.

1540
01:18:37,147 --> 01:18:38,107
Speaker 9: He likes doing that.

1541
01:18:38,387 --> 01:18:40,587
Speaker 2: Indeed, but did he go to the Grand Prix He

1542
01:18:41,067 --> 01:18:42,747
Speaker 2: presumably did go to the Grand Prix.

1543
01:18:42,787 --> 01:18:42,987
Speaker 6: Did he?

1544
01:18:44,147 --> 01:18:44,427
Speaker 25: Yeah?

1545
01:18:44,587 --> 01:18:46,987
Speaker 24: Yeah, And I think by the tone of his voice

1546
01:18:47,027 --> 01:18:49,547
Speaker 24: yesterday it was under the impression that he was all

1547
01:18:49,587 --> 01:18:54,467
Speaker 24: okay to because he was managing his workloads. So he's

1548
01:18:54,467 --> 01:18:56,907
Speaker 24: played the cricket he wants to over the summer. He's

1549
01:18:57,107 --> 01:19:00,067
Speaker 24: late thirties, so he doesn't need to be doing two

1550
01:19:00,147 --> 01:19:02,547
Speaker 24: k time trolls in between playing every single red ball

1551
01:19:02,587 --> 01:19:06,707
Speaker 24: fixture available. That's fair enough. But Queensland did him in

1552
01:19:06,707 --> 01:19:08,987
Speaker 24: that last one. They got away with it. They will

1553
01:19:08,987 --> 01:19:11,787
Speaker 24: play in the Shield Final, which is our domestic.

1554
01:19:11,627 --> 01:19:12,867
Speaker 10: Competition over here.

1555
01:19:12,667 --> 01:19:15,347
Speaker 24: That the ship hear siealed, so they still will play

1556
01:19:15,427 --> 01:19:18,747
Speaker 24: despite being second best against South Australia in that game

1557
01:19:18,747 --> 01:19:21,947
Speaker 24: that was he missed. And intriguingly, he has been named

1558
01:19:21,947 --> 01:19:24,027
Speaker 24: in a fourteen man squad to play in that Shield Final.

1559
01:19:24,067 --> 01:19:24,947
Speaker 24: So we'll see what happens.

1560
01:19:25,027 --> 01:19:27,627
Speaker 2: We will indeed, we'll follow that one with interest World

1561
01:19:27,627 --> 01:19:30,147
Speaker 2: Cup qualifying. The All Whites are in World Cup qualifying

1562
01:19:30,187 --> 01:19:34,267
Speaker 2: as we speak. So to the soccer who's out of Asia,

1563
01:19:34,467 --> 01:19:38,227
Speaker 2: are good five to one win over Indonesia on Thursday

1564
01:19:38,307 --> 01:19:41,467
Speaker 2: night in Sydney. They're off to China next. How are

1565
01:19:41,507 --> 01:19:44,667
Speaker 2: they placed? You know, relative to the other teams in Asia,

1566
01:19:44,947 --> 01:19:46,987
Speaker 2: what you know, what are their chances? Are they good

1567
01:19:47,227 --> 01:19:48,547
Speaker 2: of going to another World Cup?

1568
01:19:49,707 --> 01:19:52,387
Speaker 24: They're better after that win the other night, which is

1569
01:19:52,587 --> 01:19:55,907
Speaker 24: strange one because we didn't actually play that well, but

1570
01:19:56,067 --> 01:19:58,587
Speaker 24: we took all our chances and won five to one,

1571
01:19:58,787 --> 01:20:02,507
Speaker 24: and you kind of have to stop yourself from getting

1572
01:20:02,547 --> 01:20:06,187
Speaker 24: to kind of buried in the performance and go, look,

1573
01:20:06,747 --> 01:20:09,107
Speaker 24: we've walked away from soccer's performances where we've made it

1574
01:20:09,107 --> 01:20:11,307
Speaker 24: really hard for ourselves by missing the stack of chances,

1575
01:20:12,107 --> 01:20:15,827
Speaker 24: most famously against I think it was Thailand back when

1576
01:20:15,827 --> 01:20:18,987
Speaker 24: Ancheposter Conglu was manager, and that result meant that then

1577
01:20:19,147 --> 01:20:21,667
Speaker 24: we had to go down the playoff route. So yeah,

1578
01:20:21,707 --> 01:20:24,787
Speaker 24: it was weird. It certainly wasn't a skate like you

1579
01:20:24,827 --> 01:20:27,867
Speaker 24: guys seven Neil, your biggest problem was Chris Wood getting

1580
01:20:27,867 --> 01:20:30,747
Speaker 24: booked for bloody signing autograph exactly.

1581
01:20:30,867 --> 01:20:32,427
Speaker 2: Look, I know it's something that you've hit to deal

1582
01:20:32,467 --> 01:20:34,667
Speaker 2: with in the past as well. Hard for you to

1583
01:20:34,667 --> 01:20:38,107
Speaker 2: go anywhere without without a notebook being thrust in your direction. Actually,

1584
01:20:38,147 --> 01:20:39,787
Speaker 2: I saw a great line overnight from I think it

1585
01:20:39,827 --> 01:20:42,067
Speaker 2: was the Guardian in the UK that Chris Wood has

1586
01:20:42,107 --> 01:20:46,147
Speaker 2: achieved the genuinely astonishing feat of going into the referees

1587
01:20:46,227 --> 01:20:49,107
Speaker 2: notebook for putting his name in other people's notebooks, which

1588
01:20:49,107 --> 01:20:49,907
Speaker 2: I thought was quite clever.

1589
01:20:51,027 --> 01:20:53,827
Speaker 24: I just actually surprised kid's still asking for autographs over there.

1590
01:20:53,827 --> 01:20:56,467
Speaker 24: I've to throw back at you guys. There's all selfie

1591
01:20:56,547 --> 01:21:00,507
Speaker 24: is no. Look it was Chris Wood in the grandstand

1592
01:21:00,507 --> 01:21:03,427
Speaker 24: and the referee grandstanding. But no, it's good to see

1593
01:21:03,427 --> 01:21:05,387
Speaker 24: that you guys are going to go through and get

1594
01:21:05,387 --> 01:21:08,387
Speaker 24: that automatic spot. And over here it's a little tougher

1595
01:21:08,427 --> 01:21:12,427
Speaker 24: for us. With the Asian Confederation. We've got Saudi Arabia,

1596
01:21:12,507 --> 01:21:15,347
Speaker 24: Rod and our Hammo so at one point ahead of them.

1597
01:21:15,667 --> 01:21:20,027
Speaker 24: We play China away, which is its masses. It's as

1598
01:21:20,107 --> 01:21:22,187
Speaker 24: big as it gets as a World Cup qualifier, So

1599
01:21:22,507 --> 01:21:25,347
Speaker 24: we're going to take care of business there because Saudi

1600
01:21:25,347 --> 01:21:28,627
Speaker 24: Arabia traveled to Japan, who have already qualified. But the Japanese,

1601
01:21:28,707 --> 01:21:31,387
Speaker 24: you know, they're very honorable people. They won't just they

1602
01:21:31,427 --> 01:21:33,427
Speaker 24: won't be still drunk. That's what I'm putting out. Because

1603
01:21:33,467 --> 01:21:36,307
Speaker 24: they qualify the other night, they'll hapilly put up a

1604
01:21:36,347 --> 01:21:38,347
Speaker 24: good show for their Australian friends, if you know what

1605
01:21:38,387 --> 01:21:39,227
Speaker 24: I mean, I do know.

1606
01:21:39,187 --> 01:21:41,027
Speaker 2: What you mean, and I'm sure they will. As you say,

1607
01:21:41,027 --> 01:21:43,427
Speaker 2: the Japanese, I think, like any sporting team, you know,

1608
01:21:43,467 --> 01:21:45,307
Speaker 2: they might ease off a bit, but they're still very

1609
01:21:45,347 --> 01:21:49,187
Speaker 2: good and shouldn't shouldn't drop the ball in this case. Hey,

1610
01:21:49,227 --> 01:21:51,467
Speaker 2: let's go to the NRL to finish. Melbourne Storm the

1611
01:21:51,547 --> 01:21:53,667
Speaker 2: other night beating the Penrith Panthers and what was a

1612
01:21:53,667 --> 01:21:56,747
Speaker 2: bit of a It was a close contest thirty twenty four.

1613
01:21:57,107 --> 01:21:58,707
Speaker 2: I know you and I have talked about the Melbourne

1614
01:21:58,747 --> 01:22:02,787
Speaker 2: Storm being overriding favorites for the NRL. Does this, even

1615
01:22:02,867 --> 01:22:05,867
Speaker 2: this early in the season, just solidify those claims.

1616
01:22:06,787 --> 01:22:09,347
Speaker 24: Yeah, because they're good, is very, very good, and it

1617
01:22:09,427 --> 01:22:11,507
Speaker 24: was evident the other night. They jumped out to an

1618
01:22:11,507 --> 01:22:14,587
Speaker 24: early lead and Nathan Cleary went off with a head

1619
01:22:14,627 --> 01:22:16,707
Speaker 24: knock and I doubt that he's going to play his

1620
01:22:16,787 --> 01:22:20,827
Speaker 24: next game. But Melbourne Storm have, like you know, they

1621
01:22:20,867 --> 01:22:22,827
Speaker 24: have the unenviable thing of having to buy in the

1622
01:22:22,867 --> 01:22:24,947
Speaker 24: second round. So it's kind of a disjointed start of

1623
01:22:24,987 --> 01:22:27,787
Speaker 24: the season. But when they were on, they were very on,

1624
01:22:27,947 --> 01:22:31,107
Speaker 24: and that that's the best footing of any team so

1625
01:22:31,267 --> 01:22:34,787
Speaker 24: far this season. So strange old game though, because Penrith

1626
01:22:34,787 --> 01:22:38,787
Speaker 24: without Cleary stayed with and nearly caused a massive upset

1627
01:22:39,907 --> 01:22:42,387
Speaker 24: without Cleary, So good signs there. And that's the same

1628
01:22:42,427 --> 01:22:45,947
Speaker 24: way as the Roosters the week before being involved in

1629
01:22:45,987 --> 01:22:49,947
Speaker 24: a high scoring contest, So Penris against the russ a

1630
01:22:50,027 --> 01:22:53,707
Speaker 24: high scoring contest. Weird game saying with that one. Yeah,

1631
01:22:53,907 --> 01:22:55,307
Speaker 24: there's still all sorting themselves out.

1632
01:22:55,347 --> 01:22:57,787
Speaker 2: But Melbourne and the benchmark, Yeah, I certainly thanks Adam.

1633
01:22:57,787 --> 01:23:00,027
Speaker 2: Always great to chat. Adam Peacock from Australia six and

1634
01:23:00,067 --> 01:23:01,907
Speaker 2: a half to two, New Stalk three and a half

1635
01:23:01,947 --> 01:23:04,147
Speaker 2: to two after two o'clock. Nick willis one of our

1636
01:23:04,227 --> 01:23:07,267
Speaker 2: great middle distance runners, so what does he make of

1637
01:23:07,427 --> 01:23:11,747
Speaker 2: the emergence the rapid meteoric rise? You might say Sam

1638
01:23:11,827 --> 01:23:14,067
Speaker 2: Ruth youngest ever to go under four minutes for the mile.

1639
01:23:14,427 --> 01:23:18,347
Speaker 2: Nick willis right after the two o'clock news.

1640
01:23:18,187 --> 01:23:21,107
Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

1641
01:23:21,187 --> 01:23:22,827
Speaker 1: on and after fields.

1642
01:23:23,387 --> 01:23:25,147
Speaker 21: It's all on winter and sport.

1643
01:23:24,987 --> 01:23:29,707
Speaker 1: With Jason Vane on your home of sport US Talk.

1644
01:23:30,947 --> 01:23:33,147
Speaker 2: Just gone six past two. Welcome into the show. We're

1645
01:23:33,227 --> 01:23:36,147
Speaker 2: talking sport with you until three. Tim Beverage set to

1646
01:23:36,187 --> 01:23:40,267
Speaker 2: take over with the Weekend Collective. After that middle distance

1647
01:23:40,347 --> 01:23:44,227
Speaker 2: running we have a proud history of those running over

1648
01:23:44,267 --> 01:23:48,107
Speaker 2: middle distance eight and fifteen hundred meters the mile in

1649
01:23:48,187 --> 01:23:51,947
Speaker 2: our history and the name on everybody slips at the

1650
01:23:51,987 --> 01:23:55,747
Speaker 2: moment as perhaps our next big thing in middle distance

1651
01:23:55,827 --> 01:24:00,067
Speaker 2: running is fifteen year old Sam Ruth, who this week

1652
01:24:00,347 --> 01:24:04,147
Speaker 2: became the youngest human being ever to go under four

1653
01:24:04,187 --> 01:24:08,507
Speaker 2: minutes for the mile. So how good might he be?

1654
01:24:09,267 --> 01:24:12,867
Speaker 2: And how good is he at this age in comparison

1655
01:24:12,907 --> 01:24:16,147
Speaker 2: to those who have come before him? One of those

1656
01:24:16,187 --> 01:24:20,107
Speaker 2: who have come before him is Nick willis double Olympic

1657
01:24:20,187 --> 01:24:23,147
Speaker 2: medallist in the fifteen hundred meters. How is he assessed?

1658
01:24:23,347 --> 01:24:26,347
Speaker 2: What he's seen from Sam Routh? Nick willis very shortly

1659
01:24:26,387 --> 01:24:30,787
Speaker 2: in Sam's dad Ben himself a very very good middle

1660
01:24:30,787 --> 01:24:32,827
Speaker 2: distance run up. Also going to pop in for a

1661
01:24:32,907 --> 01:24:35,547
Speaker 2: chat live Mackay out of the black foils as they

1662
01:24:35,627 --> 01:24:41,667
Speaker 2: look forward to San Francisco sale GP tomorrow, and your

1663
01:24:41,707 --> 01:24:45,067
Speaker 2: calls and correspondence continue to be encouraged and welcomed. Oh

1664
01:24:45,067 --> 01:24:47,707
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty will get you through on

1665
01:24:47,707 --> 01:24:51,147
Speaker 2: the phone nine two ninety two for a text and

1666
01:24:51,227 --> 01:24:54,307
Speaker 2: emails to Jason at Newstalk Sedd dot co dot nz.

1667
01:24:54,587 --> 01:24:56,787
Speaker 2: But as we tick towards eight pass two. As we

1668
01:24:56,867 --> 01:24:59,787
Speaker 2: always do at around about this time on weekend sport,

1669
01:24:59,827 --> 01:25:01,307
Speaker 2: we might like to make sure that you're up to

1670
01:25:01,387 --> 01:25:03,907
Speaker 2: date with everything you need to be up to date

1671
01:25:03,947 --> 01:25:07,667
Speaker 2: with in case you missed it. Saturday edition. Starting in

1672
01:25:07,707 --> 01:25:11,827
Speaker 2: the NRL, the Broncos bouncing back from their loss last week.

1673
01:25:12,347 --> 01:25:15,227
Speaker 2: Another massive shift from Payne Hears guiding them to a

1674
01:25:15,307 --> 01:25:16,267
Speaker 2: win over the Cowboys.

1675
01:25:17,627 --> 01:25:20,707
Speaker 3: Who's been controlling proceedings at the map, pass down the middle,

1676
01:25:20,827 --> 01:25:22,187
Speaker 3: Who's gonna stop him?

1677
01:25:22,467 --> 01:25:27,707
Speaker 2: The business through day? He's done a man, He's an animal.

1678
01:25:30,027 --> 01:25:33,147
Speaker 2: Twenty six sixteen the final score there another tough another

1679
01:25:33,387 --> 01:25:36,707
Speaker 2: tough outing though for Liam Lawson this time and the

1680
01:25:36,787 --> 01:25:39,227
Speaker 2: sprint qualifiers at the Chinese Grand Prix.

1681
01:25:39,307 --> 01:25:39,707
Speaker 18: I see this.

1682
01:25:39,827 --> 01:25:43,347
Speaker 14: Lewis Hamilton goes quick at buying nearly two tenths from

1683
01:25:43,547 --> 01:25:48,147
Speaker 14: Landon Norris. For Liam Lawson that is club lost and

1684
01:25:48,427 --> 01:25:49,627
Speaker 14: that is bad news.

1685
01:25:50,187 --> 01:25:52,707
Speaker 15: Ouch ouch William Lawson.

1686
01:25:53,027 --> 01:25:56,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, Liam Lawson will start last for today's sprint race.

1687
01:25:56,267 --> 01:25:58,707
Speaker 2: That's not the main race, so don't worry. That's just

1688
01:25:59,027 --> 01:26:03,027
Speaker 2: today's sprint race. A good result for Lewis Hamilton, max.

1689
01:26:02,827 --> 01:26:05,987
Speaker 14: For Stafford, the man who's taking poll in half of

1690
01:26:06,067 --> 01:26:08,907
Speaker 14: the teen sprints to be had in Formula one. Comes

1691
01:26:08,907 --> 01:26:12,867
Speaker 14: to the line now and go second fastest by eighteen

1692
01:26:12,987 --> 01:26:15,667
Speaker 14: one thousands of a second. He's ahead of past three.

1693
01:26:16,027 --> 01:26:20,387
Speaker 14: He is behind Hamilton and they're celebrating our Ferrari.

1694
01:26:20,187 --> 01:26:24,187
Speaker 2: At Lewis Hamilton's first poll with his new team to cricket.

1695
01:26:24,227 --> 01:26:27,027
Speaker 2: Australia show their class against the White Ferns at Eden

1696
01:26:27,107 --> 01:26:29,907
Speaker 2: Park yesterday. What's a boundary to bring it up?

1697
01:26:29,947 --> 01:26:32,347
Speaker 26: We'll get it with a lovely shot eased way through

1698
01:26:32,387 --> 01:26:37,267
Speaker 26: the off side. It may not reach, it may not reach,

1699
01:26:37,347 --> 01:26:41,307
Speaker 26: but it doesn't matter. They're completed one run. That's all

1700
01:26:41,307 --> 01:26:45,747
Speaker 26: they needed. Rnie will end seventy five not out a

1701
01:26:45,987 --> 01:26:47,587
Speaker 26: sparkling display.

1702
01:26:47,467 --> 01:26:50,107
Speaker 2: An eight wicket win for Australia over our white Ferns

1703
01:26:50,107 --> 01:26:53,187
Speaker 2: and the all whites we know. Will play New Caledonia

1704
01:26:53,707 --> 01:26:56,747
Speaker 2: for a spot at next year's FIFA World Cup after

1705
01:26:56,907 --> 01:26:59,747
Speaker 2: let cat gul that's what they're called. New Caledonia beat

1706
01:26:59,827 --> 01:27:01,867
Speaker 2: Tahiti yesterday. Got fit a pitch?

1707
01:27:02,107 --> 01:27:07,107
Speaker 4: She's the keeper of ussolutely set stational.

1708
01:27:07,827 --> 01:27:12,387
Speaker 2: I'm short goodfit a pitch. He has written his name

1709
01:27:13,107 --> 01:27:16,827
Speaker 2: massive sport letters across this game.

1710
01:27:18,787 --> 01:27:21,427
Speaker 1: The scoop from the track Fields and the court on

1711
01:27:21,547 --> 01:27:24,027
Speaker 1: your home of Sport Weekend Sport with.

1712
01:27:24,307 --> 01:27:27,307
Speaker 2: Jason Vine talks in me ten past two. The name

1713
01:27:27,347 --> 01:27:30,707
Speaker 2: on everyone's lips in athletic circles both here and around

1714
01:27:30,707 --> 01:27:33,507
Speaker 2: the world at the moment is Sam Ruth, who captured

1715
01:27:33,547 --> 01:27:37,587
Speaker 2: global headlines during the week becoming the youngest athlete ever

1716
01:27:37,827 --> 01:27:39,587
Speaker 2: to run a sub for minute mile.

1717
01:27:39,707 --> 01:27:43,547
Speaker 14: Sam Tanner lead Sam Ruth onto the home straight.

1718
01:27:44,027 --> 01:27:44,867
Speaker 2: Here they come.

1719
01:27:45,067 --> 01:27:47,427
Speaker 14: The crowd ruars them down the home straight.

1720
01:27:47,627 --> 01:27:51,627
Speaker 22: Eric Comedia out swath Stadium, Sam Tanna smiling.

1721
01:27:52,067 --> 01:27:53,987
Speaker 14: Sam Routh's right now.

1722
01:27:56,027 --> 01:28:02,387
Speaker 22: Oh that's a sub for baby. That's a sub for

1723
01:28:03,147 --> 01:28:07,827
Speaker 22: both Ben Fall and Sam Ruth.

1724
01:28:08,667 --> 01:28:11,067
Speaker 2: Joe sub for in the mile.

1725
01:28:11,747 --> 01:28:14,907
Speaker 22: There's number forty nine, number fifty.

1726
01:28:16,307 --> 01:28:19,907
Speaker 2: Wowie, wowie. Indeed, Nick Willis is one of our very

1727
01:28:19,987 --> 01:28:24,147
Speaker 2: best middle distance runners. In fact, New Zealand's only two

1728
01:28:24,227 --> 01:28:28,107
Speaker 2: time Olympic medalist in the fifteen hundred meters silver in

1729
01:28:28,147 --> 01:28:31,707
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight in Beijing, Bronze at Rio in

1730
01:28:31,787 --> 01:28:35,707
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. Nick, I seem to remember you battling it

1731
01:28:35,747 --> 01:28:38,827
Speaker 2: out with Sam's dad, Ben Ruth back in the day

1732
01:28:38,867 --> 01:28:42,067
Speaker 2: in Wellington Secondary schools Athletics.

1733
01:28:42,067 --> 01:28:42,787
Speaker 6: Have I got that right?

1734
01:28:43,347 --> 01:28:45,107
Speaker 27: I don't even think it was a battle. He was

1735
01:28:45,387 --> 01:28:48,147
Speaker 27: miles ahead of me. He was a seventh former when

1736
01:28:48,147 --> 01:28:51,467
Speaker 27: I was the third form. So yeah, no, Ben was

1737
01:28:51,547 --> 01:28:54,627
Speaker 27: the local Wellington legend and all of us looked up

1738
01:28:54,627 --> 01:28:57,427
Speaker 27: to and we all were sort of seeing how fay

1739
01:28:57,467 --> 01:28:58,947
Speaker 27: we could get in the sport. And he was a

1740
01:28:58,947 --> 01:29:01,947
Speaker 27: great mentor and a good friend over the years as well.

1741
01:29:02,027 --> 01:29:05,707
Speaker 27: So we've kept in touching, especially with Sam's meteorite rise

1742
01:29:05,707 --> 01:29:08,187
Speaker 27: in the last three four months, so that's been fun

1743
01:29:08,227 --> 01:29:10,867
Speaker 27: to sort of touch base with Ben through this process

1744
01:29:10,867 --> 01:29:11,267
Speaker 27: as well.

1745
01:29:11,707 --> 01:29:13,547
Speaker 2: Well. I'll ask you a bit more about that in

1746
01:29:13,587 --> 01:29:15,867
Speaker 2: a moment, in terms of any advice you've been passing

1747
01:29:15,907 --> 01:29:18,147
Speaker 2: on or the connection you've got, But in terms of

1748
01:29:18,187 --> 01:29:22,507
Speaker 2: what Sam achieved on Wednesday night going under four minutes

1749
01:29:22,507 --> 01:29:25,227
Speaker 2: for the mile as a fifteen year old, can you

1750
01:29:25,907 --> 01:29:28,667
Speaker 2: somehow put into context for us just what a feat

1751
01:29:29,027 --> 01:29:29,427
Speaker 2: that is.

1752
01:29:32,067 --> 01:29:34,507
Speaker 27: I mean, the best context I use for myself is

1753
01:29:34,547 --> 01:29:37,667
Speaker 27: that my best for the fifteen hundred meters, which is

1754
01:29:37,667 --> 01:29:39,827
Speaker 27: one hundred and nine meters shorter than a mile at

1755
01:29:39,867 --> 01:29:43,747
Speaker 27: that same age, was four zero nine, So I would

1756
01:29:43,787 --> 01:29:45,827
Speaker 27: have been about two hundred and fifty to three hundred

1757
01:29:45,907 --> 01:29:48,747
Speaker 27: meters behind him. When he crossed that line in the

1758
01:29:48,787 --> 01:29:52,387
Speaker 27: same time, so that sort of shows And I was

1759
01:29:52,427 --> 01:29:54,627
Speaker 27: the national champion at the time for my age, so

1760
01:29:54,907 --> 01:29:56,227
Speaker 27: I thought that was a pretty good effort.

1761
01:29:56,347 --> 01:29:57,547
Speaker 21: So he's so much.

1762
01:29:57,387 --> 01:30:02,587
Speaker 27: Further ahead, and we all know how great the.

1763
01:30:01,427 --> 01:30:04,147
Speaker 21: Younger, the young yakab Ainger brick Center is.

1764
01:30:04,147 --> 01:30:06,907
Speaker 27: He's sort of the biggest name in our sports these days,

1765
01:30:06,907 --> 01:30:09,107
Speaker 27: and he set all of the youth age group records

1766
01:30:09,107 --> 01:30:12,987
Speaker 27: and now Sam's taken his first one of yukubs in

1767
01:30:13,027 --> 01:30:15,987
Speaker 27: the mile, So yeah, it really sets the stage for

1768
01:30:16,187 --> 01:30:20,827
Speaker 27: a really exciting and promising future ahead. But most impressive

1769
01:30:20,867 --> 01:30:23,147
Speaker 27: to me, honestly, is that there was a lot of

1770
01:30:23,147 --> 01:30:27,067
Speaker 27: pressure going into this race. They called their goal publicly,

1771
01:30:27,107 --> 01:30:28,907
Speaker 27: and they invited the crowd down, and they did it

1772
01:30:28,947 --> 01:30:30,907
Speaker 27: on a New Zealand track and it was catered around

1773
01:30:31,067 --> 01:30:34,827
Speaker 27: him producing this moment, and the pressure didn't get the

1774
01:30:34,867 --> 01:30:37,147
Speaker 27: best of them. If anything, he rose to the occasion.

1775
01:30:37,907 --> 01:30:40,787
Speaker 27: So I think that's what also sort of gives me

1776
01:30:40,827 --> 01:30:43,267
Speaker 27: a lot of hope and excitement for the future, as

1777
01:30:43,307 --> 01:30:47,107
Speaker 27: he would like leave this small pond and onto the big,

1778
01:30:47,187 --> 01:30:49,347
Speaker 27: scary ocean of the world athletics.

1779
01:30:49,347 --> 01:30:51,187
Speaker 21: But I think he will handle that pressure a problem

1780
01:30:51,227 --> 01:30:51,667
Speaker 21: at all.

1781
01:30:52,227 --> 01:30:55,347
Speaker 2: In terms of his age, Nick, when would a middle

1782
01:30:55,347 --> 01:30:58,907
Speaker 2: distance runner, a fifteen hundred meter runner, a miler typically

1783
01:30:59,427 --> 01:31:01,347
Speaker 2: reach their peak? I know you're an outline because you

1784
01:31:01,387 --> 01:31:04,147
Speaker 2: were winning bronze medals into your thirties, but when would

1785
01:31:04,147 --> 01:31:07,747
Speaker 2: a middle distance runner typically reached their peak?

1786
01:31:08,947 --> 01:31:11,707
Speaker 27: I mean, yeah, the historically we used to say sort

1787
01:31:11,707 --> 01:31:14,267
Speaker 27: of twenty four to twenty seven was the peak age.

1788
01:31:14,267 --> 01:31:17,307
Speaker 27: But the next crop of kids coming through I call

1789
01:31:17,387 --> 01:31:20,027
Speaker 27: them kids because I still view them that way. In

1790
01:31:20,147 --> 01:31:22,387
Speaker 27: most recently through the last three or four years, there's

1791
01:31:22,667 --> 01:31:26,187
Speaker 27: a handful of them all now doing incredibly well. Ainger Brickson,

1792
01:31:26,267 --> 01:31:30,187
Speaker 27: as we all know very well, but in fifth place

1793
01:31:30,227 --> 01:31:32,267
Speaker 27: at the Olympics has passed year. In the fifteen hundred

1794
01:31:32,347 --> 01:31:35,307
Speaker 27: was this guy named Neils Laros from the Netherlands who

1795
01:31:35,387 --> 01:31:38,067
Speaker 27: ran three twenty nine and now young cam Myles.

1796
01:31:38,107 --> 01:31:38,947
Speaker 21: He's only eighteen.

1797
01:31:39,387 --> 01:31:41,907
Speaker 27: He just ran a three forty seven mile from Australia,

1798
01:31:41,947 --> 01:31:44,307
Speaker 27: so he's only three years older than Sam, but he's

1799
01:31:44,347 --> 01:31:47,267
Speaker 27: running eleven seconds fastest. So there's there's a whole crop

1800
01:31:47,347 --> 01:31:51,187
Speaker 27: of these younger guys coming through now. So you almost

1801
01:31:51,227 --> 01:31:53,187
Speaker 27: need to be doing what Sam's doing if you want

1802
01:31:53,187 --> 01:31:56,667
Speaker 27: to be considered a medal threat in the next one

1803
01:31:56,747 --> 01:31:57,507
Speaker 27: or two Olympics.

1804
01:31:57,867 --> 01:32:00,827
Speaker 2: How technical a rice is if we talk fifteen hundred

1805
01:32:00,827 --> 01:32:03,267
Speaker 2: meters here, how technical a rice is that.

1806
01:32:04,667 --> 01:32:07,067
Speaker 27: Well, of late, they haven't been tactical at all because

1807
01:32:07,307 --> 01:32:09,307
Speaker 27: Inger bricks and goes to the front and just pushes

1808
01:32:09,347 --> 01:32:10,827
Speaker 27: it hard from the gun and they will just get

1809
01:32:10,867 --> 01:32:13,347
Speaker 27: on the train. So you've got to have the endurance,

1810
01:32:13,507 --> 01:32:15,667
Speaker 27: and they were all to just get on that and

1811
01:32:15,707 --> 01:32:16,187
Speaker 27: hang on.

1812
01:32:16,147 --> 01:32:16,907
Speaker 21: For dear life.

1813
01:32:17,387 --> 01:32:21,147
Speaker 27: But I have a suspicion once he moves up exclusively

1814
01:32:21,187 --> 01:32:24,627
Speaker 27: to the longer distances, then there may be a couple

1815
01:32:24,667 --> 01:32:26,867
Speaker 27: of championship races which would be more like the ones

1816
01:32:26,867 --> 01:32:28,667
Speaker 27: that I used to take part in them, where people

1817
01:32:28,707 --> 01:32:33,147
Speaker 27: sort of bided their time until the bell lap. But Sam,

1818
01:32:33,347 --> 01:32:35,227
Speaker 27: I was debating with my dad about this, and he

1819
01:32:35,267 --> 01:32:38,707
Speaker 27: wasn't sure about Sam's closing speed, but he certainly showed

1820
01:32:38,707 --> 01:32:41,707
Speaker 27: that he had that in the New Zealand Championships just

1821
01:32:41,747 --> 01:32:44,547
Speaker 27: a couple of weeks ago in Dunedin where he dead

1822
01:32:44,587 --> 01:32:47,707
Speaker 27: heated with Sam Tana with a withering sprinter over the

1823
01:32:47,747 --> 01:32:48,787
Speaker 27: last four hundred meters.

1824
01:32:48,787 --> 01:32:49,547
Speaker 21: So I think he's.

1825
01:32:49,387 --> 01:32:51,747
Speaker 27: Got He's got all of the tools that you need

1826
01:32:51,787 --> 01:32:55,107
Speaker 27: to speed the endurance. But probably more important than all

1827
01:32:55,147 --> 01:32:58,587
Speaker 27: of that stuff is that he's got an incredibly stable

1828
01:32:58,707 --> 01:33:02,387
Speaker 27: environment at home with his parents and then his coach

1829
01:33:02,547 --> 01:33:04,987
Speaker 27: and his training partner in Craig Kirk. With the coach

1830
01:33:05,027 --> 01:33:08,347
Speaker 27: and then Sam Tanner's training partner, He's really got the

1831
01:33:08,427 --> 01:33:10,827
Speaker 27: full shabang when it comes to making sure that there's

1832
01:33:10,867 --> 01:33:14,827
Speaker 27: the right people around him to foster this talent, but

1833
01:33:14,907 --> 01:33:20,107
Speaker 27: also shelter him from some of the distractions and tentations

1834
01:33:20,147 --> 01:33:22,667
Speaker 27: that might come the way in terms of sponsorships or

1835
01:33:23,067 --> 01:33:25,987
Speaker 27: agents or other coaches trying to lure him away. You

1836
01:33:26,027 --> 01:33:27,947
Speaker 27: can just sort of keep doing what he's doing, go

1837
01:33:27,947 --> 01:33:30,267
Speaker 27: for a few laps around the mount and enjoy his

1838
01:33:30,347 --> 01:33:33,467
Speaker 27: time just being a lad in total, while also having

1839
01:33:33,507 --> 01:33:35,267
Speaker 27: some amazing results as well.

1840
01:33:35,467 --> 01:33:37,347
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you that because I can

1841
01:33:37,427 --> 01:33:40,347
Speaker 2: imagine that, you know, a lot of young athletes don't

1842
01:33:40,387 --> 01:33:44,707
Speaker 2: have family parents, for example, who have been good at

1843
01:33:44,707 --> 01:33:46,627
Speaker 2: the same thing that they're good at, so they could

1844
01:33:46,667 --> 01:33:49,267
Speaker 2: easily have their head turned as you say Nick bye

1845
01:33:49,667 --> 01:33:54,507
Speaker 2: by you know, deals with footwear manufacturers or university you know,

1846
01:33:54,547 --> 01:33:57,547
Speaker 2: scholarships and such like. How helpful do you think it'll

1847
01:33:57,587 --> 01:34:01,267
Speaker 2: be for Sam that he's got his dad, Ben as

1848
01:34:01,667 --> 01:34:02,867
Speaker 2: one of his biggest guiders.

1849
01:34:04,067 --> 01:34:07,947
Speaker 27: Yeah, I'm sure Ben's Ben and his mum's Jess are

1850
01:34:07,947 --> 01:34:10,587
Speaker 27: not immune to some of those temptations as well, because Hey,

1851
01:34:10,587 --> 01:34:13,427
Speaker 27: I'm a parent. I get excited when my son's playing basketball,

1852
01:34:13,467 --> 01:34:15,787
Speaker 27: and you sort of ride your kids' coattails a little bit.

1853
01:34:16,347 --> 01:34:19,227
Speaker 27: But Ben has the connections right to ask the right questions,

1854
01:34:19,267 --> 01:34:21,307
Speaker 27: and that's partly why he reached out to me a

1855
01:34:21,347 --> 01:34:24,067
Speaker 27: month or so ago. Hey, all these shoe companies are

1856
01:34:24,067 --> 01:34:27,067
Speaker 27: reaching out to me like what's considered market read and

1857
01:34:27,107 --> 01:34:28,667
Speaker 27: all that sort of stuff, and that's the line of

1858
01:34:28,667 --> 01:34:33,507
Speaker 27: work that I'm in. But he's also a successful business

1859
01:34:33,507 --> 01:34:37,867
Speaker 27: owner himself, so they're probably not as a need to

1860
01:34:37,947 --> 01:34:40,947
Speaker 27: make a hasty decision on that front as well. But

1861
01:34:40,987 --> 01:34:42,867
Speaker 27: the main thing they want to do is like keep

1862
01:34:42,867 --> 01:34:45,707
Speaker 27: their options open. And once you sort of head down

1863
01:34:45,787 --> 01:34:48,507
Speaker 27: certain paths, it's hard to turn back from. So keep

1864
01:34:48,547 --> 01:34:50,227
Speaker 27: all of the options out in front of you, so

1865
01:34:50,307 --> 01:34:52,307
Speaker 27: that as Sam gets older and he can make his

1866
01:34:52,307 --> 01:34:54,067
Speaker 27: own decisions, they're still there presented.

1867
01:34:55,067 --> 01:34:58,907
Speaker 2: How helpful do you assess Sam Tanner has been for

1868
01:34:58,947 --> 01:35:00,707
Speaker 2: Sam Ruth. I mean, first of all, on the pacemaking

1869
01:35:00,707 --> 01:35:03,067
Speaker 2: on Wednesday night, that clearly was a big help. But

1870
01:35:03,107 --> 01:35:06,067
Speaker 2: in terms of being alongside a you know, now I

1871
01:35:06,067 --> 01:35:08,387
Speaker 2: feel the experienced fifteen hundred meter runer.

1872
01:35:09,507 --> 01:35:11,827
Speaker 21: Yeah, not just his experience at the very top.

1873
01:35:12,347 --> 01:35:16,707
Speaker 27: For anyone who's ever been around Sam, he's he's probably

1874
01:35:16,747 --> 01:35:21,587
Speaker 27: the most enthusiastic, enthusiastic and positive person I've ever been around.

1875
01:35:22,307 --> 01:35:24,707
Speaker 27: And nearly everyone who you'll see who's ever met Sam

1876
01:35:24,707 --> 01:35:26,347
Speaker 27: will feel that same way as well.

1877
01:35:26,387 --> 01:35:27,307
Speaker 21: He's got just just.

1878
01:35:27,347 --> 01:35:33,747
Speaker 27: Like charismatic enthusiasm that just it just emanates off of

1879
01:35:33,867 --> 01:35:36,507
Speaker 27: his presence and like it just makes everyone a better

1880
01:35:36,547 --> 01:35:38,947
Speaker 27: people around him. And so, first of all, Sam's around

1881
01:35:38,987 --> 01:35:43,427
Speaker 27: that example, but also having been someone that yeah, has

1882
01:35:43,427 --> 01:35:46,307
Speaker 27: done it at the very top, and Sam Tanner is

1883
01:35:46,787 --> 01:35:49,627
Speaker 27: because of that attitude that he has, He's also pretty

1884
01:35:49,627 --> 01:35:51,467
Speaker 27: care free, so he doesn't let the stress get the

1885
01:35:51,507 --> 01:35:54,187
Speaker 27: best of him. He's a surfer as his background, so

1886
01:35:54,267 --> 01:35:57,907
Speaker 27: he's pretty laid back and going to an Olympic start

1887
01:35:57,947 --> 01:36:00,227
Speaker 27: line doesn't intimidate him at all and it's just oh

1888
01:36:00,307 --> 01:36:03,787
Speaker 27: sweet as bro So I think that a lot of that,

1889
01:36:04,027 --> 01:36:07,507
Speaker 27: just like seeing that example and then coming alongside has

1890
01:36:07,587 --> 01:36:11,107
Speaker 27: really helped Sam Ruth. But also the fact that Sam

1891
01:36:11,147 --> 01:36:14,307
Speaker 27: Tana doesn't have an ego and has no problem cheering

1892
01:36:14,387 --> 01:36:18,467
Speaker 27: him along this whole way. And sometimes it's hard to

1893
01:36:18,507 --> 01:36:21,787
Speaker 27: have two alphas in a training group, there starts to

1894
01:36:21,827 --> 01:36:24,747
Speaker 27: be some sort of tension brewing, But that wouldn't be

1895
01:36:24,787 --> 01:36:26,867
Speaker 27: the case at all with Sam Tanner. He's excited to

1896
01:36:26,987 --> 01:36:29,347
Speaker 27: help Sam Ruth along as best as he can.

1897
01:36:29,507 --> 01:36:31,867
Speaker 2: Which I think you were with Sam Tanner, would you?

1898
01:36:31,867 --> 01:36:34,067
Speaker 2: Did I see that you pace You were pace maker

1899
01:36:34,107 --> 01:36:37,187
Speaker 2: when Sam Tana first went sub for Is that right?

1900
01:36:38,147 --> 01:36:38,347
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1901
01:36:38,387 --> 01:36:40,147
Speaker 21: It was all for show, though I deep down was

1902
01:36:40,187 --> 01:36:42,187
Speaker 21: insecure it. Now I'm just jecking.

1903
01:36:43,867 --> 01:36:47,627
Speaker 27: No, that's fun right, Like a lot of us are

1904
01:36:47,627 --> 01:36:50,947
Speaker 27: fans first before the talent sort of gets a chance

1905
01:36:50,947 --> 01:36:54,147
Speaker 27: to realize itself. So like I, as much as in

1906
01:36:54,227 --> 01:36:56,507
Speaker 27: and us want to see the next New Zealand great

1907
01:36:56,547 --> 01:36:57,387
Speaker 27: Milea come through.

1908
01:36:57,467 --> 01:36:57,787
Speaker 21: And so.

1909
01:36:59,347 --> 01:37:02,107
Speaker 27: Sam Tanner, hopefully you have his time, get break my

1910
01:37:02,187 --> 01:37:04,827
Speaker 27: New Zealand record and breat Peter Snell's and John Walker's

1911
01:37:04,827 --> 01:37:07,547
Speaker 27: records and.

1912
01:37:06,747 --> 01:37:08,067
Speaker 21: Hopefully win a Meddle or two.

1913
01:37:08,107 --> 01:37:11,867
Speaker 27: And then Sam Ruth, You're about to keep the momentum going.

1914
01:37:11,907 --> 01:37:13,227
Speaker 21: So that would be the ideal world.

1915
01:37:13,307 --> 01:37:16,067
Speaker 27: But it also helps Sam Tanner out right, because he's

1916
01:37:16,667 --> 01:37:19,547
Speaker 27: decided to not be based overseas and be boast in total,

1917
01:37:19,867 --> 01:37:21,347
Speaker 27: so rather than just training.

1918
01:37:21,027 --> 01:37:22,747
Speaker 21: With high school kids he is.

1919
01:37:23,107 --> 01:37:24,787
Speaker 27: It just has happens that one of them is the

1920
01:37:24,827 --> 01:37:27,347
Speaker 27: greatest fifteen year old of all time. So he'll now

1921
01:37:27,467 --> 01:37:30,307
Speaker 27: have a world class training partner to help keep him

1922
01:37:30,307 --> 01:37:32,227
Speaker 27: on his toes and make sure he doesn't sort of

1923
01:37:32,867 --> 01:37:37,187
Speaker 27: get a bit complacent. And the nine months of the

1924
01:37:37,227 --> 01:37:39,787
Speaker 27: year when you're not racing over in Europe and just.

1925
01:37:39,747 --> 01:37:42,987
Speaker 2: Back to sam Ruth to finish. Is all of this

1926
01:37:43,107 --> 01:37:46,507
Speaker 2: happening perhaps in any way too quickly? Nick? Could there

1927
01:37:46,547 --> 01:37:49,867
Speaker 2: be a danger that this is all happening so so quickly.

1928
01:37:49,867 --> 01:37:51,987
Speaker 2: We're talking now about a Commonwealth Games next year that

1929
01:37:52,027 --> 01:37:54,347
Speaker 2: he could go to as a sixteen year old and

1930
01:37:54,427 --> 01:37:56,867
Speaker 2: Olympic Games in a couple of years as an eighteen

1931
01:37:56,947 --> 01:37:58,787
Speaker 2: year old. Is this all happening a little bit too

1932
01:37:58,867 --> 01:37:59,467
Speaker 2: quickly or not?

1933
01:38:00,787 --> 01:38:04,587
Speaker 27: I think his team around him are asking the right

1934
01:38:04,667 --> 01:38:07,067
Speaker 27: questions and they are going to make some way decisions.

1935
01:38:07,107 --> 01:38:10,987
Speaker 27: And you want to expose him to opportunities because you

1936
01:38:11,067 --> 01:38:13,187
Speaker 27: want him to stay excited, but you also don't want

1937
01:38:13,187 --> 01:38:14,907
Speaker 27: to miss out on what has made him such a

1938
01:38:14,907 --> 01:38:18,707
Speaker 27: good runner as doing the real basics that is required

1939
01:38:18,947 --> 01:38:20,987
Speaker 27: in the other nine months of the year and training

1940
01:38:21,067 --> 01:38:23,267
Speaker 27: so that you can peek at the time of the year.

1941
01:38:23,467 --> 01:38:24,947
Speaker 27: The hard thing is a key we is you're in

1942
01:38:24,947 --> 01:38:29,067
Speaker 27: an opposite hemisphere, so the seasons are reversed. So you

1943
01:38:29,187 --> 01:38:31,587
Speaker 27: got to pick and choose your battles wisely when you

1944
01:38:31,827 --> 01:38:35,067
Speaker 27: go to the Northern Hemisphere to race against those Northern

1945
01:38:35,067 --> 01:38:41,227
Speaker 27: Hemisphere athletes, and it's necessary, but you can't always sacrifice

1946
01:38:41,347 --> 01:38:45,587
Speaker 27: the off season training that has done behind closed doors

1947
01:38:45,587 --> 01:38:48,067
Speaker 27: that helps you become the great athlete you are. So

1948
01:38:48,067 --> 01:38:50,387
Speaker 27: I'm sure they'll pick and choose those battles, and one

1949
01:38:50,427 --> 01:38:53,107
Speaker 27: day he will have to make the decision that he's

1950
01:38:53,107 --> 01:38:54,947
Speaker 27: too big for the New Zealand scene and he will

1951
01:38:54,987 --> 01:38:57,507
Speaker 27: still base there, but he will train through the New

1952
01:38:57,587 --> 01:39:00,627
Speaker 27: Zealand summer and pretend that it's like the Northern Hemisphere

1953
01:39:00,667 --> 01:39:04,787
Speaker 27: winter and focuses racing in the June July August time frame.

1954
01:39:04,867 --> 01:39:06,907
Speaker 27: But I don't think that's necess here in the next

1955
01:39:06,947 --> 01:39:09,107
Speaker 27: couple of years, but I'm sure Craig and Ben and

1956
01:39:09,147 --> 01:39:10,627
Speaker 27: their team will make the good decisions.

1957
01:39:11,067 --> 01:39:13,267
Speaker 2: Exciting times ahead. Nick, thanks so much for joining us

1958
01:39:13,267 --> 01:39:16,307
Speaker 2: to lend us your analysis. And inside always appreciate you're

1959
01:39:16,307 --> 01:39:18,187
Speaker 2: taking the time. Good to catch up as well. All

1960
01:39:18,187 --> 01:39:19,867
Speaker 2: the best and we'll talk again. So I hope.

1961
01:39:20,867 --> 01:39:23,347
Speaker 21: Hey, thanks Jason. Take care Bobo, Yeah, take care as well.

1962
01:39:23,387 --> 01:39:26,147
Speaker 2: Nick nick Willis there, a double Olympic medalist in the

1963
01:39:26,147 --> 01:39:28,867
Speaker 2: fifteen hundred meters, still closely connected by the sounds of

1964
01:39:28,907 --> 01:39:32,707
Speaker 2: things to the Ruth family through his relationship with Sam's dad,

1965
01:39:32,707 --> 01:39:35,627
Speaker 2: Ben Ruth, who incidentally is going to join us next

1966
01:39:35,667 --> 01:39:37,907
Speaker 2: on Newstalks EDB two twenty three.

1967
01:39:37,947 --> 01:39:41,987
Speaker 1: Back after this It's more than just a game weekend

1968
01:39:42,067 --> 01:39:46,427
Speaker 1: sport with Jason Pine and GJ. Gunnomes, New Zealand's most

1969
01:39:46,427 --> 01:39:48,467
Speaker 1: trusted home builder News Talks NB.

1970
01:39:48,667 --> 01:39:51,307
Speaker 2: Two twenty five. We're in San Francisco for sale GP

1971
01:39:51,747 --> 01:39:54,947
Speaker 2: in the next fifteen twenty minutes or so. But back

1972
01:39:54,987 --> 01:40:01,187
Speaker 2: to Sam Ruth, this young, incredibly talented middle distance runner

1973
01:40:01,227 --> 01:40:03,947
Speaker 2: with huge potential, youngest ever to go under the foreman

1974
01:40:03,987 --> 01:40:06,027
Speaker 2: at mark for the mile during the week. We've just

1975
01:40:06,067 --> 01:40:09,107
Speaker 2: heard f nick Willis, let's continue to chat about Sam

1976
01:40:09,147 --> 01:40:12,707
Speaker 2: and get pretty close to him, bringing in Dad, proud Dad,

1977
01:40:12,707 --> 01:40:13,987
Speaker 2: no doubt, Ben Ruth.

1978
01:40:14,027 --> 01:40:14,187
Speaker 27: Ben.

1979
01:40:14,227 --> 01:40:17,547
Speaker 2: Before we get onto Sam, nick Willis just said, then

1980
01:40:17,627 --> 01:40:21,107
Speaker 2: he remembers you beating him in the battles you had

1981
01:40:21,147 --> 01:40:23,827
Speaker 2: back at secondary school in Wellington. Do you have have

1982
01:40:23,947 --> 01:40:25,707
Speaker 2: similar memories of running against Nick.

1983
01:40:26,627 --> 01:40:29,027
Speaker 25: I had some fantastic battles with Nack. It was actually

1984
01:40:29,027 --> 01:40:31,187
Speaker 25: probably one of my breakthrough races was breathing his older

1985
01:40:31,187 --> 01:40:33,267
Speaker 25: brother Steve will Less. It was a sub form Mither

1986
01:40:33,387 --> 01:40:35,187
Speaker 25: himself in an eight hundred and Wellington, which was one

1987
01:40:35,187 --> 01:40:37,387
Speaker 25: of the big big moments in my life. And I

1988
01:40:37,427 --> 01:40:39,107
Speaker 25: broke a couple of New Zealand under twenty records at

1989
01:40:39,107 --> 01:40:41,667
Speaker 25: that time, and then Nick very shortly came hot on

1990
01:40:41,707 --> 01:40:43,267
Speaker 25: my heels and I had a crack at the New

1991
01:40:43,307 --> 01:40:46,107
Speaker 25: Zealand under twenty mile record one year at four three

1992
01:40:46,107 --> 01:40:48,227
Speaker 25: I ran a four h four and then the very

1993
01:40:48,227 --> 01:40:50,027
Speaker 25: next year and Nick came around me in the last

1994
01:40:50,027 --> 01:40:52,227
Speaker 25: two hundred to get to get that record. I think

1995
01:40:52,267 --> 01:40:54,787
Speaker 25: as a seventeen year old run four oh one. So yeah,

1996
01:40:55,027 --> 01:40:57,987
Speaker 25: we've had a very long history and he was one

1997
01:40:58,027 --> 01:41:00,067
Speaker 25: of the very first people I called once I realized

1998
01:41:00,507 --> 01:41:02,507
Speaker 25: I had the challenge ahead of me that I've got.

1999
01:41:02,707 --> 01:41:05,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he has mentioned that obviously as well. Has

2000
01:41:05,867 --> 01:41:09,787
Speaker 2: he been a source of good advice for you?

2001
01:41:11,467 --> 01:41:14,707
Speaker 25: Honestly, I cannot. I can't rate Nick highly enough his

2002
01:41:15,987 --> 01:41:17,827
Speaker 25: you know, your your interview with him, you can tell

2003
01:41:17,947 --> 01:41:21,947
Speaker 25: he's his wisdom, has calm demeanor, he's really really thoughtful.

2004
01:41:22,347 --> 01:41:24,427
Speaker 25: We've been in Europe together discussing the sport and how

2005
01:41:24,467 --> 01:41:27,227
Speaker 25: things can improve, and he's just a really considered, well

2006
01:41:27,227 --> 01:41:29,787
Speaker 25: thought out individual. So I've got all the time in

2007
01:41:29,827 --> 01:41:33,067
Speaker 25: the world for and I asked him for some key

2008
01:41:33,067 --> 01:41:35,747
Speaker 25: advice and he gave me about five key points, and

2009
01:41:35,787 --> 01:41:39,067
Speaker 25: I've implemented all of those things. I've I made some

2010
01:41:39,107 --> 01:41:41,387
Speaker 25: mistakes when I was running. I didn't cack on the

2011
01:41:41,427 --> 01:41:42,787
Speaker 25: way that I should have. I should have got my

2012
01:41:42,787 --> 01:41:45,307
Speaker 25: tunsils out sooner. There's just a whole host of things

2013
01:41:45,307 --> 01:41:47,547
Speaker 25: that I could have done and should have done. And

2014
01:41:47,587 --> 01:41:50,187
Speaker 25: I think Nick, listening to that interview, maybe has I

2015
01:41:50,587 --> 01:41:53,147
Speaker 25: probably had a bit of a reputation of overtraining and

2016
01:41:53,187 --> 01:41:55,627
Speaker 25: pushing too hard and getting a bit over excited myself

2017
01:41:55,667 --> 01:41:59,387
Speaker 25: as an athlete. And I think Nick has I could

2018
01:41:59,427 --> 01:42:02,787
Speaker 25: hear a slight concern that's that's that sort of thing

2019
01:42:02,867 --> 01:42:06,027
Speaker 25: is what can hurt athletes. But talking about the wider team,

2020
01:42:06,027 --> 01:42:07,867
Speaker 25: and I think he said that use the term the

2021
01:42:07,867 --> 01:42:11,347
Speaker 25: whole shebang and that's what we've really got. It's unbelievable

2022
01:42:11,387 --> 01:42:15,067
Speaker 25: support that Sam's got around him and such valuable contributions

2023
01:42:15,107 --> 01:42:15,747
Speaker 25: from people late.

2024
01:42:15,707 --> 01:42:18,787
Speaker 2: Neck overtraining is a really interesting concept to me because

2025
01:42:19,147 --> 01:42:21,147
Speaker 2: I get you know, you hear all the time, don't

2026
01:42:21,187 --> 01:42:23,387
Speaker 2: you you have to work hard to get success, and

2027
01:42:23,427 --> 01:42:26,627
Speaker 2: it's true you do. But the overtraining side of it,

2028
01:42:27,227 --> 01:42:30,147
Speaker 2: how do you know when you are doing that? How

2029
01:42:30,187 --> 01:42:33,067
Speaker 2: do you know when too much is too much?

2030
01:42:34,787 --> 01:42:37,387
Speaker 25: You know, I'm probably not the person to ask for

2031
01:42:37,427 --> 01:42:38,667
Speaker 25: that because I've always done too much?

2032
01:42:40,267 --> 01:42:42,347
Speaker 2: What did the experts say? What do the experts say

2033
01:42:42,347 --> 01:42:43,307
Speaker 2: about this?

2034
01:42:43,307 --> 01:42:45,067
Speaker 25: This is the wonderful thing, right. Craig and I have

2035
01:42:45,107 --> 01:42:47,547
Speaker 25: been great mates for many many years and raced together,

2036
01:42:47,667 --> 01:42:51,907
Speaker 25: and I mean he's he's proven himself coaching Sam Tanner

2037
01:42:51,947 --> 01:42:55,787
Speaker 25: from seventeen through the Olympic semifinals and Hayden Wild from

2038
01:42:55,987 --> 01:42:57,507
Speaker 25: a young man that lived with him as like I

2039
01:42:57,507 --> 01:42:59,907
Speaker 25: think a sixteen seventeen year old through to Olympic medals

2040
01:42:59,987 --> 01:43:03,787
Speaker 25: and Craig like, our roles are very clear. I don't

2041
01:43:03,827 --> 01:43:06,867
Speaker 25: understand with his coaching because he's clearly incredible and believable

2042
01:43:06,867 --> 01:43:10,547
Speaker 25: at it, and that's his role. Jess's role is making

2043
01:43:10,547 --> 01:43:13,347
Speaker 25: sure that Sam's got the stability home life, good health,

2044
01:43:14,027 --> 01:43:17,907
Speaker 25: food to sleep, all those sorts of things and the

2045
01:43:18,147 --> 01:43:20,107
Speaker 25: right things to prioritize for him. And my job is

2046
01:43:20,147 --> 01:43:21,987
Speaker 25: to maybe take some of the burden off them in

2047
01:43:22,107 --> 01:43:24,707
Speaker 25: terms of media, but to create opportunities for him as well.

2048
01:43:24,787 --> 01:43:26,307
Speaker 25: So it's a real team.

2049
01:43:27,107 --> 01:43:30,267
Speaker 2: You must, though, have some views being a runner yourself, Ben,

2050
01:43:30,547 --> 01:43:33,227
Speaker 2: do you ever I don't know scratchy head about what

2051
01:43:33,267 --> 01:43:35,107
Speaker 2: Craig is asking if Sam or do you I know

2052
01:43:35,147 --> 01:43:38,227
Speaker 2: you have full trust, but do you ever does anything

2053
01:43:38,227 --> 01:43:42,307
Speaker 2: he ever, you know, gets Sam to do surprise you?

2054
01:43:44,227 --> 01:43:48,987
Speaker 25: Honestly, Sam, Sam does so little training. He trains. He's

2055
01:43:49,027 --> 01:43:51,347
Speaker 25: got Sam Tanner as a training partner, but he doesn't train.

2056
01:43:51,667 --> 01:43:54,227
Speaker 25: He trains with Samtanna, but he doesn't train like Sam Tanner.

2057
01:43:54,547 --> 01:43:57,307
Speaker 25: So Sam Tanner ran that mile on Saturday on Wednesday, sorry,

2058
01:43:57,547 --> 01:44:00,387
Speaker 25: and then he immediately carried on to a session afterwards.

2059
01:44:00,427 --> 01:44:02,427
Speaker 25: So he carried on doing reps after that session. So

2060
01:44:03,067 --> 01:44:06,067
Speaker 25: and you wouldn't have seen Sam doing that. So you know,

2061
01:44:06,427 --> 01:44:08,347
Speaker 25: even I'm sending out a track right the second and

2062
01:44:08,507 --> 01:44:11,907
Speaker 25: they're doing reps and Sam Tanner's working harder and longer

2063
01:44:11,947 --> 01:44:15,627
Speaker 25: and Craig really doesn't put a lot of emphasis on

2064
01:44:16,067 --> 01:44:18,427
Speaker 25: how hard he's training. It's more how easily he's training

2065
01:44:18,467 --> 01:44:20,747
Speaker 25: and making sure it's within his abilities, and he does

2066
01:44:20,787 --> 01:44:22,227
Speaker 25: pulls those EVAs incredibly well.

2067
01:44:22,587 --> 01:44:24,907
Speaker 2: You've been in an around track and field for most

2068
01:44:24,907 --> 01:44:28,147
Speaker 2: of your adult life and probably even before that, Ben,

2069
01:44:28,227 --> 01:44:32,107
Speaker 2: are you able to admire what Sam is doing from

2070
01:44:32,147 --> 01:44:37,107
Speaker 2: a purely running sense, or you know, because you must

2071
01:44:37,107 --> 01:44:41,027
Speaker 2: be an extremely proud dad as well? Are you able

2072
01:44:41,067 --> 01:44:43,787
Speaker 2: to be both admira of as running but a proud

2073
01:44:43,787 --> 01:44:44,787
Speaker 2: father as well.

2074
01:44:46,347 --> 01:44:49,707
Speaker 25: From an athletic point of view. I really can't wrap

2075
01:44:49,747 --> 01:44:51,307
Speaker 25: my head around it. I would have thought that this

2076
01:44:51,427 --> 01:44:53,587
Speaker 25: was not something that was possible for anybody on the planet.

2077
01:44:54,867 --> 01:45:00,107
Speaker 25: And I'm biased, but it's shockingly quick at shockingly young age.

2078
01:45:01,227 --> 01:45:02,387
Speaker 25: And I think that's one of the one of the

2079
01:45:02,427 --> 01:45:05,907
Speaker 25: key challenges that we've got is, you know, it's only

2080
01:45:05,987 --> 01:45:09,507
Speaker 25: running and Sam is you know, we want them to

2081
01:45:09,507 --> 01:45:13,667
Speaker 25: be a good, humble person who supports and helps others

2082
01:45:13,747 --> 01:45:15,747
Speaker 25: and as a kind as a kind man. And one

2083
01:45:15,747 --> 01:45:17,627
Speaker 25: of the things that Sam's decided today is he was

2084
01:45:17,667 --> 01:45:19,187
Speaker 25: trying to figure out how he could help Craig and

2085
01:45:19,227 --> 01:45:20,867
Speaker 25: Sam Tanner for everything that they do for him. And

2086
01:45:21,347 --> 01:45:23,267
Speaker 25: he's got his spikes that he wore on the race

2087
01:45:23,307 --> 01:45:26,187
Speaker 25: that he broke the world record, and he's putting them

2088
01:45:26,267 --> 01:45:27,907
Speaker 25: up on trade me. Actually he's too young to put

2089
01:45:27,907 --> 01:45:29,227
Speaker 25: them up on trade me, so I'll put them up

2090
01:45:29,227 --> 01:45:32,987
Speaker 25: on trade me. So they're just up now if if

2091
01:45:32,987 --> 01:45:37,187
Speaker 25: anybody searches this Sam Sam Ruth spikes, they're on trade me.

2092
01:45:37,227 --> 01:45:39,507
Speaker 25: And that money is just going to get there to

2093
01:45:39,547 --> 01:45:43,747
Speaker 25: be donated to Craig and Sam Tanner to help them

2094
01:45:44,427 --> 01:45:47,027
Speaker 25: however they want to choose to use it, because they're

2095
01:45:47,067 --> 01:45:51,507
Speaker 25: the most generous, kind hearted people that I know. And

2096
01:45:53,147 --> 01:45:56,027
Speaker 25: Nick Wollas was saying, how Sam Tanner is, you know,

2097
01:45:56,027 --> 01:45:58,547
Speaker 25: a surfer and relaxed and to elphas in the group

2098
01:45:58,587 --> 01:46:01,027
Speaker 25: can be dangerous. But Sam Tanner could not be a

2099
01:46:01,107 --> 01:46:07,827
Speaker 25: more encouraging, dynamic, positive influence and my son's life and

2100
01:46:08,387 --> 01:46:10,147
Speaker 25: Jess and I are just incredibly grateful.

2101
01:46:09,827 --> 01:46:12,747
Speaker 2: For that brilliant stuff. What will be a few clicking

2102
01:46:12,747 --> 01:46:14,827
Speaker 2: on to trade me to have a look at those

2103
01:46:15,387 --> 01:46:18,667
Speaker 2: those world record spikes? For sure, Ben, I've got a

2104
01:46:18,667 --> 01:46:21,787
Speaker 2: teenage son and he leaves his stuff lying around everywhere,

2105
01:46:21,827 --> 01:46:26,507
Speaker 2: and you know, I mean it's Sam a typical teenage boy.

2106
01:46:26,827 --> 01:46:32,027
Speaker 2: In other ways, apart from his incredible athletic ability, I'm.

2107
01:46:31,867 --> 01:46:37,587
Speaker 25: Going to go with no, he's he's just a lovely kiddy.

2108
01:46:37,587 --> 01:46:39,707
Speaker 25: He envisits thisssher and helps us with dinner and take

2109
01:46:39,707 --> 01:46:42,707
Speaker 25: the rubbish out and moans the lawns. And yeah, he

2110
01:46:42,747 --> 01:46:44,427
Speaker 25: takes himself off to bed and goes to bed early

2111
01:46:44,467 --> 01:46:47,787
Speaker 25: because he knows that sleep really helps him. He's just

2112
01:46:48,307 --> 01:46:51,307
Speaker 25: like he's got a YouTube clip. Towering R and R

2113
01:46:51,787 --> 01:46:54,627
Speaker 25: is their YouTube and Instagram channel, and they did a

2114
01:46:54,707 --> 01:46:57,147
Speaker 25: video and you'll if somebody watches that, you'll see how

2115
01:46:57,187 --> 01:47:00,067
Speaker 25: relaxed they are. What's his mates having banda before the race.

2116
01:47:00,267 --> 01:47:02,307
Speaker 25: It's like just literally like they've just gone to the

2117
01:47:02,347 --> 01:47:06,347
Speaker 25: track to have an ordinary Saturday afternoon session. And that's

2118
01:47:06,747 --> 01:47:10,307
Speaker 25: that's really abnormal. I can't believe how he's coped. And

2119
01:47:10,347 --> 01:47:11,707
Speaker 25: that was one of the things for us is how

2120
01:47:11,747 --> 01:47:13,347
Speaker 25: much pressure do you put on a child at a

2121
01:47:13,427 --> 01:47:16,787
Speaker 25: young age. And I decided that we'd do this and

2122
01:47:16,827 --> 01:47:19,067
Speaker 25: would organize this smeet and would promote it to give

2123
01:47:19,107 --> 01:47:21,507
Speaker 25: him the opportunity of having all this pressure but at

2124
01:47:21,507 --> 01:47:23,307
Speaker 25: a time that he's surrounded by a lot of people

2125
01:47:23,307 --> 01:47:25,307
Speaker 25: that love and care for him, he is surrounded by

2126
01:47:25,747 --> 01:47:28,907
Speaker 25: obviously his family and all his mates, and in the race,

2127
01:47:29,027 --> 01:47:31,827
Speaker 25: some incredible things happened that for Sam they were better

2128
01:47:31,987 --> 01:47:35,787
Speaker 25: than what his performance was. Like, Hamish Murray ran a

2129
01:47:35,787 --> 01:47:37,627
Speaker 25: four h five mile, which all of a sudden means

2130
01:47:37,627 --> 01:47:39,267
Speaker 25: that he's going to get into the university that he

2131
01:47:39,267 --> 01:47:41,387
Speaker 25: wants to in America and it was his last race

2132
01:47:41,387 --> 01:47:43,267
Speaker 25: of the season to do that. So that's going to

2133
01:47:43,347 --> 01:47:46,227
Speaker 25: change Hamish's life. And George Wiley ran a four h

2134
01:47:46,307 --> 01:47:48,427
Speaker 25: three mile, which any other year for a seventeen year

2135
01:47:48,427 --> 01:47:52,547
Speaker 25: old is unbelievable, and that's going to change which universities

2136
01:47:52,587 --> 01:47:54,947
Speaker 25: he gets into. So he's just so proud of those

2137
01:47:54,947 --> 01:47:57,747
Speaker 25: guys who took seconds off their time, and you know,

2138
01:47:57,787 --> 01:47:59,707
Speaker 25: it's about the team and the squad and everybody around

2139
01:47:59,747 --> 01:48:00,507
Speaker 25: them succeeding.

2140
01:48:00,747 --> 01:48:00,947
Speaker 20: Yeah.

2141
01:48:00,987 --> 01:48:03,227
Speaker 2: Well, it just seems is though, even listening to you

2142
01:48:03,467 --> 01:48:05,867
Speaker 2: being you know, how down to earth you are and

2143
01:48:05,947 --> 01:48:09,067
Speaker 2: how you know I think you know the qualities obviously

2144
01:48:09,067 --> 01:48:12,187
Speaker 2: that you're trying to instill in in Sam. I'm sure

2145
01:48:12,307 --> 01:48:14,667
Speaker 2: qualities that you display on a daily basis as well,

2146
01:48:14,667 --> 01:48:17,347
Speaker 2: and you've demonstrated that through through just chatting to us.

2147
01:48:17,347 --> 01:48:21,827
Speaker 2: So do you do you do you plot a path forward,

2148
01:48:21,867 --> 01:48:24,347
Speaker 2: do you and how far ahead do you do you

2149
01:48:24,427 --> 01:48:27,267
Speaker 2: plan for for Sam's athletic career.

2150
01:48:28,267 --> 01:48:31,827
Speaker 25: Yeah, so it's it's a quite an enjoyable process.

2151
01:48:31,827 --> 01:48:32,027
Speaker 11: Really.

2152
01:48:32,027 --> 01:48:34,307
Speaker 25: I sit down with my aunt Craig and we talk

2153
01:48:34,347 --> 01:48:37,067
Speaker 25: about we talk about, you know, what's ideal, and he's

2154
01:48:37,467 --> 01:48:39,987
Speaker 25: he's a little bit run out. Other than his training mate,

2155
01:48:40,027 --> 01:48:42,467
Speaker 25: he's run out of anybody that's faster than in New Zealand.

2156
01:48:42,507 --> 01:48:45,027
Speaker 25: So you've got to travel out in New Zealand. There's

2157
01:48:45,267 --> 01:48:47,787
Speaker 25: a ridiculously fast race in Australia. It's the fastest race

2158
01:48:47,787 --> 01:48:51,227
Speaker 25: in Australia all year by by a country mile. And

2159
01:48:51,307 --> 01:48:53,987
Speaker 25: his ranks second to last in at next next Saturday.

2160
01:48:54,507 --> 01:48:56,267
Speaker 25: So that's a that's a deep end for him. And

2161
01:48:56,307 --> 01:48:58,347
Speaker 25: then he's going to La for the biggest high school

2162
01:48:58,387 --> 01:49:01,307
Speaker 25: race in America on the twelfth of April. But then

2163
01:49:01,467 --> 01:49:03,267
Speaker 25: he's we've decided that he's probably going to go to

2164
01:49:03,307 --> 01:49:06,787
Speaker 25: America in July. So Craig decides this. Craig decide all

2165
01:49:06,787 --> 01:49:08,827
Speaker 25: of his training program. Then I run it by Jess

2166
01:49:08,827 --> 01:49:10,747
Speaker 25: to make sure we get the tick of approval from

2167
01:49:10,987 --> 01:49:13,027
Speaker 25: in terms of school and leaving home and how we're

2168
01:49:13,027 --> 01:49:15,667
Speaker 25: going to manage it from a home home life balance

2169
01:49:15,667 --> 01:49:17,667
Speaker 25: and Daisy my daughter, and how we're going to all

2170
01:49:17,667 --> 01:49:20,747
Speaker 25: do that, and whether they travel and we sort of

2171
01:49:20,747 --> 01:49:22,387
Speaker 25: all work together as the teams come out with the

2172
01:49:22,427 --> 01:49:25,787
Speaker 25: plan that gives them the opportunities and the exposure, but

2173
01:49:25,907 --> 01:49:30,467
Speaker 25: the support and also maintainers every day Kiri, schoolboy life.

2174
01:49:30,867 --> 01:49:33,987
Speaker 2: An exciting time for you and your family, for Sam,

2175
01:49:34,067 --> 01:49:36,587
Speaker 2: for the athletics community here in New Zealand. We just

2176
01:49:36,587 --> 01:49:39,107
Speaker 2: can't wait to see what the future holds for this

2177
01:49:39,227 --> 01:49:43,027
Speaker 2: remarkable young man who, as I said, has obviously had

2178
01:49:43,187 --> 01:49:47,187
Speaker 2: a terrific grounding from yourself and Jess and everybody else

2179
01:49:47,187 --> 01:49:49,347
Speaker 2: wrapped around and been all the best. We can't wait

2180
01:49:49,747 --> 01:49:51,547
Speaker 2: to see what happens next. Thanks for taking the time

2181
01:49:51,547 --> 01:49:52,267
Speaker 2: for a chat today.

2182
01:49:52,347 --> 01:49:55,587
Speaker 25: Thanks so much, Jason really appreciate the support. And yeah,

2183
01:49:55,907 --> 01:49:56,987
Speaker 25: let's see where this seems up.

2184
01:49:57,107 --> 01:50:01,427
Speaker 2: Let's see indeed. Thanks Ben Ben Ruth, father of Sam Ruth.

2185
01:50:01,467 --> 01:50:05,267
Speaker 2: Ben himself a terrific middle distance runner, and well just

2186
01:50:05,307 --> 01:50:08,747
Speaker 2: listening to him. You know, often, you know, learn a

2187
01:50:08,787 --> 01:50:11,827
Speaker 2: lot about a child by talking to their parents, can't you.

2188
01:50:11,907 --> 01:50:13,747
Speaker 2: And when you find somebody who's a bit of a

2189
01:50:13,827 --> 01:50:18,427
Speaker 2: high achiever, it's fairly common that their parents are well

2190
01:50:18,427 --> 01:50:22,507
Speaker 2: adjusted people and great supporters, and that's obviously the case

2191
01:50:22,947 --> 01:50:25,787
Speaker 2: with Ben. So he mentioned there that Sam's chucked his

2192
01:50:25,947 --> 01:50:27,907
Speaker 2: spikes on trade me to raise a bit of money

2193
01:50:28,307 --> 01:50:31,747
Speaker 2: for his coach and training partner for Craig Kirkwood and

2194
01:50:31,787 --> 01:50:34,707
Speaker 2: Sam Ruth and the youth development group that they run.

2195
01:50:34,747 --> 01:50:38,187
Speaker 2: I've just brought up the listing. Actually, Sam Ruth used

2196
01:50:38,387 --> 01:50:42,347
Speaker 2: spikes less than four minutes use it says here the

2197
01:50:42,427 --> 01:50:46,587
Speaker 2: description one young owner a little water exposure but dry

2198
01:50:46,667 --> 01:50:49,707
Speaker 2: now hopefully good for another decade or so. Verified as

2199
01:50:49,787 --> 01:50:53,787
Speaker 2: being raised in for only three minutes fifty eight point

2200
01:50:53,827 --> 01:50:56,947
Speaker 2: three five seconds, still have the stickers in the heels,

2201
01:50:57,267 --> 01:51:01,107
Speaker 2: can vouch for the faint whiff of achievement. I love it.

2202
01:51:01,347 --> 01:51:03,987
Speaker 2: I love it well. The reserves been met, which is

2203
01:51:04,027 --> 01:51:07,947
Speaker 2: good news. If you search up Sam Ruth, that's Ruth

2204
01:51:08,307 --> 01:51:11,947
Speaker 2: rug spikes, you can get to that listing. And if

2205
01:51:11,947 --> 01:51:17,027
Speaker 2: you're perhaps interested in sporting memorabilia, maybe you might want

2206
01:51:17,067 --> 01:51:19,947
Speaker 2: to place a bid on the spikes Sam Ruth was

2207
01:51:19,987 --> 01:51:23,427
Speaker 2: wearing when he became the youngest ever sub formanut miler

2208
01:51:24,027 --> 01:51:26,147
Speaker 2: twenty three to three. We'll get a breakaway when we

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01:51:26,147 --> 01:51:28,667
Speaker 2: come back We're in San Francisco for the latest event

2210
01:51:28,747 --> 01:51:33,107
Speaker 2: in sal GP Team New Zealand or Blackfoil's strategist Live

2211
01:51:33,187 --> 01:51:34,267
Speaker 2: Mackay with Us after.

2212
01:51:34,107 --> 01:51:38,227
Speaker 1: This the Tough Questions off the turf Weekend Sport with

2213
01:51:38,427 --> 01:51:42,347
Speaker 1: Jason Pine and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home

2214
01:51:42,387 --> 01:51:43,627
Speaker 1: Builder news B.

2215
01:51:44,427 --> 01:51:48,107
Speaker 2: Two forty on Weekend Sport Sale GP hits San Francisco

2216
01:51:48,187 --> 01:51:51,267
Speaker 2: this weekend for event five of season four. The Black

2217
01:51:51,307 --> 01:51:54,987
Speaker 2: Foyles bouncing back from double disappointment in Auckland and Sydney

2218
01:51:55,267 --> 01:51:58,827
Speaker 2: to finish second in Los Angeles last weekend and moved

2219
01:51:58,867 --> 01:52:01,707
Speaker 2: to third in the championship standings, three points behind Australia

2220
01:52:01,707 --> 01:52:04,827
Speaker 2: and second with Great Britain a further two points ahead

2221
01:52:05,187 --> 01:52:08,587
Speaker 2: at the top. Black four Oil's strategist Live Mackay's with

2222
01:52:08,747 --> 01:52:11,427
Speaker 2: Us out of San Francisco. Lov thanks for joining us.

2223
01:52:11,467 --> 01:52:14,067
Speaker 2: You won two fleet races in LA, finished second and

2224
01:52:14,107 --> 01:52:17,187
Speaker 2: another two then second in the finals. So what went

2225
01:52:17,467 --> 01:52:21,867
Speaker 2: so much better in LA than in Auckland and Sydney.

2226
01:52:22,867 --> 01:52:25,227
Speaker 15: Yeah, Hey, nice to chat with you.

2227
01:52:25,347 --> 01:52:29,067
Speaker 28: Yeah, I I mean, you're right, it was a bit

2228
01:52:29,107 --> 01:52:32,307
Speaker 28: of a comeback from Sydney in Auckland, but it was

2229
01:52:32,507 --> 01:52:35,347
Speaker 28: I mean, it was a different weekend. We had lighter

2230
01:52:35,387 --> 01:52:39,027
Speaker 28: conditions and have done a lot of work on our

2231
01:52:39,107 --> 01:52:41,827
Speaker 28: starting and yeah, finally got to LA and was able

2232
01:52:41,867 --> 01:52:43,187
Speaker 28: to execute a lot of that work.

2233
01:52:43,267 --> 01:52:45,827
Speaker 15: So yeah, I think it's just it's always.

2234
01:52:45,587 --> 01:52:49,867
Speaker 28: A completely different venue, different scene when we change events.

2235
01:52:49,907 --> 01:52:53,947
Speaker 28: But it was just stoke that some of we've been

2236
01:52:53,947 --> 01:52:56,427
Speaker 28: doing a lot of hard when in that area. So

2237
01:52:56,507 --> 01:52:58,987
Speaker 28: we're just happy that we were able to execute some

2238
01:52:59,027 --> 01:52:59,587
Speaker 28: of those.

2239
01:52:59,627 --> 01:53:02,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, what does the hard work that you're putting into

2240
01:53:02,227 --> 01:53:03,947
Speaker 2: your starts consist of?

2241
01:53:06,467 --> 01:53:11,307
Speaker 28: So with sale GP, it's quite challenging, and the fact

2242
01:53:11,347 --> 01:53:13,707
Speaker 28: that we get no time on the water, but with

2243
01:53:14,107 --> 01:53:19,027
Speaker 28: you get unlimited basically that data and analysis. So these

2244
01:53:19,067 --> 01:53:22,307
Speaker 28: different softwarees that we use and run through all the data,

2245
01:53:22,787 --> 01:53:25,027
Speaker 28: we have a lot of meetings about it, and get

2246
01:53:25,067 --> 01:53:27,747
Speaker 28: all the video that you could even want. So a

2247
01:53:27,787 --> 01:53:31,827
Speaker 28: lot of that is to do with communication analysis, understanding

2248
01:53:31,907 --> 01:53:34,627
Speaker 28: what each of us can see on the boat, and

2249
01:53:35,267 --> 01:53:39,707
Speaker 28: just looking into that time on distance, so looking at

2250
01:53:39,787 --> 01:53:41,867
Speaker 28: you know, obviously that max by coming off the top

2251
01:53:41,907 --> 01:53:43,747
Speaker 28: of the line paid a few times for us, and

2252
01:53:43,787 --> 01:53:47,027
Speaker 28: then that midpack trying to get off the line at

2253
01:53:47,067 --> 01:53:50,747
Speaker 28: the past point also paid, So each star is completely different,

2254
01:53:50,787 --> 01:53:53,507
Speaker 28: and because we're now doing eight races per amin, you

2255
01:53:53,547 --> 01:53:56,387
Speaker 28: get a lot of chances at it. And I think

2256
01:53:56,587 --> 01:54:00,027
Speaker 28: we're doing a good job an LA of reviewing between

2257
01:54:00,067 --> 01:54:03,827
Speaker 28: each start and being dynamic with that approach. So I mean,

2258
01:54:03,867 --> 01:54:06,187
Speaker 28: we're here now in San Francisco and it will be

2259
01:54:06,347 --> 01:54:09,787
Speaker 28: completely different again this weekend, but hoping to build on it.

2260
01:54:09,987 --> 01:54:11,827
Speaker 2: Just before we look at the weekend ahead. You mentioned

2261
01:54:11,867 --> 01:54:14,587
Speaker 2: all the data and video that's available to you. With

2262
01:54:14,787 --> 01:54:17,987
Speaker 2: so much information there, how do you drill down into

2263
01:54:18,067 --> 01:54:20,827
Speaker 2: what is really important and most useful for you?

2264
01:54:23,227 --> 01:54:26,587
Speaker 28: I think because we've done you know, we're a few

2265
01:54:26,587 --> 01:54:29,347
Speaker 28: seasons and now we can really see what's going to

2266
01:54:29,387 --> 01:54:31,667
Speaker 28: be the priority at what venue. So we've been to

2267
01:54:32,227 --> 01:54:37,107
Speaker 28: Los Angeles before, we've seen that direction and how the

2268
01:54:37,267 --> 01:54:42,387
Speaker 28: different corese geometry plays out. So each menu is very

2269
01:54:42,427 --> 01:54:46,227
Speaker 28: different in the way of the length, the size of

2270
01:54:46,267 --> 01:54:50,387
Speaker 28: the start bots, and that really affects how eleven boats

2271
01:54:50,427 --> 01:54:54,427
Speaker 28: can behave. So the start is super challenging because you

2272
01:54:54,467 --> 01:54:57,387
Speaker 28: don't know how you know, the decision making of ten

2273
01:54:57,427 --> 01:55:00,107
Speaker 28: other teams and how that will work. But I think

2274
01:55:00,147 --> 01:55:03,667
Speaker 28: we're seeing, you know, we've got so much history from

2275
01:55:03,667 --> 01:55:06,827
Speaker 28: the few years that you do such stuff to see

2276
01:55:06,867 --> 01:55:11,187
Speaker 28: patterns and we can really review that between events and

2277
01:55:11,267 --> 01:55:14,947
Speaker 28: bring up past years to then really apply it for

2278
01:55:15,107 --> 01:55:19,267
Speaker 28: the upcoming race weekend. And that's the huge benefit of

2279
01:55:19,307 --> 01:55:22,627
Speaker 28: having the coaches booth live and they can see what's

2280
01:55:22,667 --> 01:55:25,267
Speaker 28: going on. They have a bird's eye view of how

2281
01:55:25,307 --> 01:55:27,227
Speaker 28: the start's playing out, and they're speaking to you in

2282
01:55:27,267 --> 01:55:31,027
Speaker 28: real time. So yeah, we're continuing to develop and really

2283
01:55:31,027 --> 01:55:35,987
Speaker 28: push that area and we're starting to see some improvement there.

2284
01:55:36,027 --> 01:55:38,627
Speaker 28: But again, you can't get ahead of yourself.

2285
01:55:39,027 --> 01:55:40,867
Speaker 2: So for the first time you're going to sail on

2286
01:55:40,987 --> 01:55:44,867
Speaker 2: back to back weekends, does that present a unique challenge

2287
01:55:44,867 --> 01:55:48,027
Speaker 2: in itself or actually is there an advantage to being

2288
01:55:48,027 --> 01:55:51,107
Speaker 2: able to sail so soon after you lasted.

2289
01:55:53,747 --> 01:55:56,147
Speaker 28: I think there's definitely pros and ponds. It's been a

2290
01:55:56,227 --> 01:55:59,027
Speaker 28: huge push for our shore crew to you know, you've

2291
01:55:59,027 --> 01:56:01,067
Speaker 28: got to pull apart the whole bow and then they've

2292
01:56:01,107 --> 01:56:03,347
Speaker 28: all been trucked up here to San Fran and put

2293
01:56:03,427 --> 01:56:07,067
Speaker 28: back together again, and it's been a big push there.

2294
01:56:07,107 --> 01:56:09,427
Speaker 28: But we've got on the water for practice racing today

2295
01:56:09,427 --> 01:56:11,987
Speaker 28: and it's you know, all the eleven boats are in

2296
01:56:12,027 --> 01:56:15,387
Speaker 28: great shape, so that's been a challenge. I think for

2297
01:56:15,587 --> 01:56:19,507
Speaker 28: us as sailors, it's pretty awesome opportunity for the first

2298
01:56:19,547 --> 01:56:23,987
Speaker 28: time to do this. You really lack getting hours on

2299
01:56:24,027 --> 01:56:27,547
Speaker 28: the water, so to do it, you know, in quick succession,

2300
01:56:28,027 --> 01:56:31,507
Speaker 28: it really allows us to build on those you know,

2301
01:56:31,547 --> 01:56:35,347
Speaker 28: weaknesses and really step forward. I think all teams are

2302
01:56:35,347 --> 01:56:38,467
Speaker 28: taking an advantage of it. So yeah, it's just the

2303
01:56:38,467 --> 01:56:39,667
Speaker 28: team who does it the fastest.

2304
01:56:39,947 --> 01:56:42,387
Speaker 2: Now I've seen it reported live that San Francisco could

2305
01:56:42,427 --> 01:56:46,307
Speaker 2: produce the most extreme conditions of the twenty twenty five

2306
01:56:46,387 --> 01:56:49,267
Speaker 2: sole GP calendar. So how will that change the way

2307
01:56:49,307 --> 01:56:50,227
Speaker 2: you sail this event?

2308
01:56:52,347 --> 01:56:55,947
Speaker 28: Yeah, I mean we saw a real mix out there today.

2309
01:56:55,987 --> 01:56:59,467
Speaker 28: It actually started off at four or five knots and

2310
01:56:59,747 --> 01:57:02,467
Speaker 28: the reason had come in for quite a while, so

2311
01:57:02,947 --> 01:57:06,467
Speaker 28: I think it's a really changeable venue. And once the

2312
01:57:06,467 --> 01:57:09,827
Speaker 28: breeze does come in, it definitely feels.

2313
01:57:09,627 --> 01:57:10,147
Speaker 15: Very full on.

2314
01:57:10,307 --> 01:57:16,027
Speaker 28: It's very tidal, quite chaotic, and the breeze is very

2315
01:57:16,067 --> 01:57:17,907
Speaker 28: split and it's super strong.

2316
01:57:17,987 --> 01:57:20,787
Speaker 15: In some parts, you know, you're seeing.

2317
01:57:20,627 --> 01:57:24,387
Speaker 28: Twenty twenty five knots and then in others it's twelve knots.

2318
01:57:24,387 --> 01:57:29,347
Speaker 28: So that's a really challenging racecourse and I think it's

2319
01:57:29,667 --> 01:57:33,227
Speaker 28: great viewing but it's very dynamic. It's saying I think

2320
01:57:33,267 --> 01:57:35,747
Speaker 28: you see a lot of crashes out there, a lot

2321
01:57:35,787 --> 01:57:38,027
Speaker 28: of near misses, and you know, a lot of high

2322
01:57:38,107 --> 01:57:42,307
Speaker 28: speed intersections. So it's definitely challenging, especially for my role

2323
01:57:42,307 --> 01:57:45,867
Speaker 28: in that aspect. But it's a pretty awesome racecourse to

2324
01:57:46,427 --> 01:57:46,907
Speaker 28: get into.

2325
01:57:47,147 --> 01:57:49,267
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about the strategist role

2326
01:57:49,507 --> 01:57:51,787
Speaker 2: in conditions like these, Do you have to make more

2327
01:57:52,467 --> 01:57:55,147
Speaker 2: instinctive decisions and conditions like these?

2328
01:57:57,987 --> 01:58:01,307
Speaker 28: Yes, I think we were just discussing it now in

2329
01:58:01,307 --> 01:58:06,947
Speaker 28: our debrief. Actually, the intersections they change very lu minute

2330
01:58:07,147 --> 01:58:11,667
Speaker 28: because it run's angles change a lot with the different pressure.

2331
01:58:11,907 --> 01:58:14,147
Speaker 15: So yeah, it's pretty intense, to be.

2332
01:58:14,067 --> 01:58:16,507
Speaker 28: Honest, and I think it's you know, there's quite a

2333
01:58:16,507 --> 01:58:19,187
Speaker 28: big swell out there today as well, so it's making

2334
01:58:19,227 --> 01:58:22,267
Speaker 28: Irun's lives pretty hard crossing the boat and you know,

2335
01:58:22,467 --> 01:58:25,347
Speaker 28: the flight control is pretty full on, and I think

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Speaker 28: for me it's it's you know, learning that eleven boats

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Speaker 28: on the courses is a lot, so just making sure

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Speaker 28: I keep my head out and then trying to get

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Speaker 28: ahead of everything. I think this type of racing is amazing,

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Speaker 28: it's awesome, it's super intense, but the biggest challenge is

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Speaker 28: getting far enough ahead the you know the race is

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Speaker 28: so I mean, you know you're looking at ten to

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Speaker 28: fourteen minutes and you're going at really high speed. So

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Speaker 28: it's really trying to get a head of what's happening,

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01:58:57,107 --> 01:58:59,827
Speaker 28: where the pressure is and trying to give that in

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01:59:00,467 --> 01:59:02,467
Speaker 28: basic form to Pete.

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Speaker 15: So yeah, he can obviously make a good decision.

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Speaker 2: And just finally your foot in. As you mentioned before,

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Speaker 2: four races a day now used to be three, so

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Speaker 2: a lot more racing time. How much does that change things?

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Speaker 28: I think it changes a lot for the grinders, to

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Speaker 28: be honest. I think that's the biggest They are working

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Speaker 28: hard up there and it's pretty full on definitely in

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01:59:25,827 --> 01:59:29,427
Speaker 28: this venue, to be honest. But it changes things in

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Speaker 28: the way of I mean on the first day you

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01:59:32,707 --> 01:59:36,627
Speaker 28: can definitely rack up a lot of points. Well not

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Speaker 28: rack up a lot of points because you get low

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Speaker 28: scoring if you have a bad day, but yeah, it's

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01:59:41,747 --> 01:59:43,627
Speaker 28: you can definitely lose it on the first day, I

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01:59:43,627 --> 01:59:46,867
Speaker 28: think more so with the four races, so really just

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Speaker 28: trying to stay consistent with that, with that approach, and

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Speaker 28: then yeah, I think going into Sunday is a different

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01:59:54,827 --> 01:59:57,947
Speaker 28: day again, and you just have so many chances with

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Speaker 28: those three races before the finals, so it's just fighting

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Speaker 28: for every position.

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Speaker 2: Love all the best. Thanks for joining us the day before.

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Speaker 2: I hope, I hope San Francisco goes as well as

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles did last week in think maybe even just

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Speaker 2: slightly better and you get a victory in San Franz.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time for a chat to us

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Speaker 2: this afternoon.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, no, thanks having me on.

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Speaker 2: As Liv mckaye. She's strategist with the black falls, of course,

2374
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Speaker 2: as they hit event five in season four San Francisco.

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02:00:25,227 --> 02:00:28,067
Speaker 2: They bounced back terrifically well last weekend in Los Angeles

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02:00:28,107 --> 02:00:30,947
Speaker 2: after disappointing regattas at home in Auckland and then the

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Speaker 2: following one in Sydney much much better in LA was

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02:00:33,907 --> 02:00:36,427
Speaker 2: great to see, so let's hope we see more of

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Speaker 2: the same when sal GP San Francisco is underway mid

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Speaker 2: morning tomorrow, New Zealand Time. We'll keep you up to

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Speaker 2: date with what happens tomorrow on the show tomorrow afternoon,

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Speaker 2: eleven to three. Get a circle back to the All

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Speaker 2: Whites very briefly before we finished the show after the

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Speaker 2: seven nil victory last night over fig which secured their

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Speaker 2: place in monday nights Oceania World Cup qualifying final. Had

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Speaker 2: a quick word to all Whites midfielder Joe Bell to

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Speaker 2: find out his assessment of the performance. Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 29: Obviously we all recognized that this was the focus since

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Speaker 29: we've been back, and Yeah, getting through this first one,

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Speaker 29: I think it was fantastic. The boys obviously played some

2391
02:01:14,187 --> 02:01:16,267
Speaker 29: really nice passages of football, and to get a good

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02:01:16,267 --> 02:01:18,667
Speaker 29: scoreline as well, it's always good for the confidence going

2393
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Speaker 29: into the next one. So I thought it was a

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Speaker 29: really professional performance from us.

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Speaker 2: The way it structured. Obviously hit tonight to get through

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Speaker 2: to get to Monday. How difficult was it to just

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Speaker 2: focus on tonight?

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Speaker 29: Yeah, it obviously it poses its threats, but I think

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Speaker 29: we've just got such an experienced squad and a really

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Speaker 29: good balance within the squad with young players as well,

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Speaker 29: So I think we had Yeah, within the group, we

2402
02:01:38,507 --> 02:01:40,347
Speaker 29: had a pretty good way of keeping control of the

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Speaker 29: atmosphere and the focus going into it. So I think

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Speaker 29: that's one of our really strong points within the team.

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Speaker 2: How important was the early goal to kind of take

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Speaker 2: the sting out of Fiji? If there was to be

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Speaker 2: some I just hit to bays. If it's still all

2408
02:01:51,267 --> 02:01:53,267
Speaker 2: after half an hour, the shape of the game changes

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Speaker 2: a bit for sure.

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Speaker 29: Obviously, I think everyone is going to go for early

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Speaker 29: goals and these kind of games knowing the way that

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Speaker 29: they're going to carry. So it was fantastic ball from

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Speaker 29: South Reed and a good head of from with this.

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Speaker 29: So yeah, I think that first one really lets you

2415
02:02:05,827 --> 02:02:08,547
Speaker 29: kind of a little bit in a sense, not relaxed

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02:02:08,587 --> 02:02:11,107
Speaker 29: so much, but unless your shoulders come down a little bit.

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Speaker 29: So it was really good, So not hopefully the same

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Speaker 29: on Monday.

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Speaker 2: You're the glue in the side man. When goals are

2420
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Speaker 2: going in at the top end, you're just missed the

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02:02:19,507 --> 02:02:21,307
Speaker 2: consistency in the middle there. How much do you enjoy

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Speaker 2: playing for this team? I love playing for this team.

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Speaker 29: It's fantastic. And being able to play back on home soil,

2424
02:02:25,987 --> 02:02:28,067
Speaker 29: it it's such a special experience, especially in front of

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Speaker 29: the friends, and to have family and friends in the

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Speaker 29: stands too, it just means so much. So there's so

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Speaker 29: many talented players out there, it's kind of nice to

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02:02:35,067 --> 02:02:36,787
Speaker 29: be a little bit more defensive and just let them

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Speaker 29: have fun with it. So no, it was a really

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Speaker 29: enjoyable night to night.

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Speaker 2: And just a word on your skipper. Two consecutive heat tricks,

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Speaker 2: now forty three goals for New Zealand. He's just irresistible

2433
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Speaker 2: at the moment, isn't he.

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Speaker 29: He just can't stop scoring. But the thing with Woodsy

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Speaker 29: that I feel like people are starting to understand, but

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Speaker 29: I think they haven't understood for a long time. He's

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Speaker 29: just so down to earth. You can have a copy

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Speaker 29: with him. He's a fantastic guy and he connects with

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02:02:59,947 --> 02:03:01,707
Speaker 29: all the boys on the team and I think that's

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Speaker 29: a real testament to the character that he is. And yeah,

2441
02:03:05,387 --> 02:03:07,667
Speaker 29: the impact that he's having on football here in this country,

2442
02:03:07,667 --> 02:03:10,027
Speaker 29: it's just, yeah, you can't really put it into words.

2443
02:03:10,027 --> 02:03:11,907
Speaker 29: So it's just fantastic to be around him and then

2444
02:03:11,987 --> 02:03:12,987
Speaker 29: to share the patch with them.

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02:03:13,187 --> 02:03:15,027
Speaker 2: Mission accomplished. One to go. We'll see him Monday.

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02:03:15,067 --> 02:03:15,947
Speaker 29: Chares finey thanks.

2447
02:03:16,067 --> 02:03:18,267
Speaker 2: That is Joe bell Or Whites, midfielder after the seven

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02:03:18,307 --> 02:03:20,987
Speaker 2: I'll win last night Monday night, New Caledonia seven o'clock

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02:03:21,027 --> 02:03:23,067
Speaker 2: kick off at Eden Park for a place at next

2450
02:03:23,147 --> 02:03:25,267
Speaker 2: year's World Cup. Eight to three News talks edb.

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Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fields. Weekend

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02:03:31,227 --> 02:03:34,467
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason yin News Talk ZENB.

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Speaker 2: Five to three. That's us on weekend Sport for the day,

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02:03:36,547 --> 02:03:38,467
Speaker 2: tim Beverage will set to go with the weekend Collective

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Speaker 2: Saturday edition after three. We're back tomorrow after midday. Our

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Speaker 2: guest is motor Racing Royalty former Australian Formula one great

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02:03:46,747 --> 02:03:49,867
Speaker 2: Mark Webber, who also had some time in endurance racing

2458
02:03:49,907 --> 02:03:52,947
Speaker 2: alongside our very own Brendan Hartley. What does he make

2459
02:03:52,987 --> 02:03:56,427
Speaker 2: of Liam Lawson's difficult introduction to F one? Mark Webber

2460
02:03:56,827 --> 02:04:00,307
Speaker 2: is our guest after midday tomorrow. Huge thanks to Annie

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02:04:00,347 --> 02:04:02,987
Speaker 2: McDonald for producing the show. Your reward as per usual

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02:04:03,067 --> 02:04:05,707
Speaker 2: as the Saturday exit song, So what are we going with?

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Speaker 30: Yeah, the song actually goes out to Tyler Bandon, who

2464
02:04:08,707 --> 02:04:11,307
Speaker 30: has a pretty big test in front of him. Obviously,

2465
02:04:11,387 --> 02:04:14,147
Speaker 30: it took me three goals to get my driver's license,

2466
02:04:15,107 --> 02:04:18,387
Speaker 30: so good luck to him on Tuesday after hopefully he

2467
02:04:18,427 --> 02:04:20,747
Speaker 30: would have qualified. The all Whites to the people will

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02:04:20,827 --> 02:04:23,867
Speaker 30: cut fast car will take us out. Tyler Bandon, good

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02:04:23,947 --> 02:04:24,547
Speaker 30: luck mate.

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02:04:25,467 --> 02:04:28,227
Speaker 2: Thanks you see tomorrow, guys and the.

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02:04:28,187 --> 02:04:30,747
Speaker 5: Bars and more your friends than you do your kids.

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02:04:30,987 --> 02:04:34,627
Speaker 5: Padaw is home for better but maybe together you and

2473
02:04:34,747 --> 02:04:36,947
Speaker 5: need to find that they've got no plans to handle on.

2474
02:04:37,827 --> 02:04:39,947
Speaker 15: Take a fast car and keep on driving.

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02:04:49,507 --> 02:04:50,147
Speaker 5: You've got a pair.

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02:04:50,227 --> 02:04:53,467
Speaker 2: Fast car is fast enough so you can die away.

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02:04:54,067 --> 02:04:57,347
Speaker 5: You're gonna make a decision, leave tonight to live and

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02:04:57,467 --> 02:05:11,867
Speaker 5: die this way.

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Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen live

2480
02:05:20,387 --> 02:05:23,667
Speaker 1: to news talks at B Weekends from midday, or follow

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Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.