1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: So this weekend for the All Blacks. We have Ireland. 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Last time we met was the World Cup, of course, 3 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: where we won, which was a very big deal given 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: they were favorites at the time. The All Black coach 5 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: Scott Robertson is with us. Good morning, we'll go to 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: from here and now we have not talked since the 7 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: Northern Tour began. Are you enjoying it? Is it going well? 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: It's been a good start. Obviously going through Japan set 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: us up for then England game in a heavy everything 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: tessments pretty goes down to only a few moments. We 11 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: put enough pushure on them to know them to stop 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: their drop goal and had enough opportunities for ourselves. You 13 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: len quick and it's been a help of start. 14 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: What's the vibe in terms of coverage of you in 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: that part of the world after England? Are you taking 16 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: as seriously do you think as an All Black squad 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: as you always have been? 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: Oh? Mane, it's huge, it's Irish. You know, this is 19 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: a massive weekend for them. You know obviously what happened 20 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: in the quarterfinal and you know it took a series 21 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: one of us did for so there's a there's a 22 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: lot in it. You know, like you know five tonight 23 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: at Viva, you know, the crowd with six Guinnesses in them, 24 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: it's going to be a hell of an atmosphere. But 25 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: there certainly a lot of media and the high around. 26 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: The niggle that we talk of is it real or not? 27 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: Really, it's real. It's real and it's good. Like the 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: personalities and the stories and behind it just adds to 29 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: the flavor of the occasion. You know, the just MAT's 30 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: footy and up till probably what seven eight years ago, 31 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: you know New Zealand, the all back city the number 32 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: for a long period of time, but you know it's 33 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: five and five the last ten matches. They've split them. 34 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: We've split them in and now you know they're the 35 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: real deal Island top ranking and they have everything in place, 36 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: their processes around all from their age groups, schools right 37 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: through up to their professional levels. It's because you get 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: in the world. 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: That sort of answers my question, what is that your 40 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: assessment of why they are where they are now. 41 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a massive part of it. Good good coaching, 42 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: consistent coaching, pathways, aligned, good competitions and they playing you know, 43 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: their own usc but also the European Cups that they 44 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: played some big teams and they've had a consistency of players, 45 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of experienced players to stick together 46 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: for a long period of time. And Johnny Siston's Albus 47 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: obvious one that paid a lot of test experience once 48 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: test footy on most days, and they've got a lot 49 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: of it in they're a tight group. Yeah. 50 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: What what's the difference between when you were there and 51 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: you were playing and what they do now by way 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: of a system. Has it changed dramatically? 53 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? It there's a lot really official, really aligned. Like 54 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 2: when I was over here paying for Pip even you know, 55 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: me autoring with the all backs. I remember we're down. 56 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: I think we're down twenty points in the first few 57 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: minutes and Jonas score a try. I turned it around 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: a week put twenty on them. But those days are gone, 59 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: you know, you know they're still in all of you 60 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: all backs in regards to the history, but on field 61 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: is a lot tighter. It is all top six, six 62 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: to eight teams and we're bugby. There's only one called 63 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: plays these small margins. Things have even up along it, 64 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: but a less exciting part. You know, how do you 65 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: how do you find waste to win these games is 66 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 2: the key. 67 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: How are you feeling about the tour itself? Because as 68 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: far as Northern tours go, it's a good tour, isn't it. 69 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: Because England and Ireland, other teams, the ore the ones 70 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: you want to play and you throw in France, that's 71 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: not a bad mix. 72 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. The calendar when you throw it, the most just 73 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: mentioned is every blade fourteen And then you get this, 74 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: you know, the Northern Tour. You know we're forty days 75 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: away between three days into it and you and you 76 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: go back to back to back and they're away. You know, 77 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: we're I think we're sixty percent maybe even more percent percentages. 78 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: You know all bex per way tests. You know we've 79 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: had five at homen and nine away. Yeah, it's just 80 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: part of the game. You know, when you winning procedures 81 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: is great and you pay away their heads to it 82 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: and you know we're excited to work tomorrow night and 83 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: the occasion. You know, the leader has been great and 84 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: there's part of going north. You know, when you sit 85 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: at the bottom of the world and your neighbors then 86 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: tactically you do a lot. Bit that is true. 87 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: Is the weather effactor at all? Is it cold and 88 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: miserable and dark at two o'clock in the afternoon. 89 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw some two days in a row. This 90 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: is tropical. Now it's not. It's look there big a 91 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: bit agrees on the ball mat talking them last week, 92 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: seventeen degrees is unbelievable. We couldn't we you know, we're 93 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: training with a little bit of water on the ball 94 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: and all week and it turned out a beauty date. 95 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: Like he's going to be an actual bit of Greecius. 96 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: He might be a little bit more kicking, but both 97 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: teams will play, you know, they're like they're like short 98 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: passing games, so being entertaining. But the weather's played this 99 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: part so far. 100 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: Each week we have when when you're not on, we 101 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: have a player and I asked the player about their 102 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: view of you and Patrick tow a blow was on 103 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: last week. Every one of them has said they like 104 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: your sense of humor. A they like you, but they 105 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: like your sense of humor. Is that is that part 106 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: of what you brought to the camp. 107 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: It's nice to hear this. No one said there all 108 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 2: the players have the anyway, I'm just myself. I think 109 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: I think as long as they say that, and they 110 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: understand that the sense humans backed up by understanding the 111 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: game professional and helping them be better, you know, getting 112 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: the best out of themselves and coming environment where they 113 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: can perform. And I suppose that the humor on the 114 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: side is that's just me. I'm a people person. I 115 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: enjoy being around, having a company and the gift of 116 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: Rugbys you get together and everyone's got your talents and 117 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: you come together as a team. So it's nice to hear. 118 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: What about the psychology of the tour. I don't want 119 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: to get ahead of it, but I mean this is 120 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: this is the pinnacle asn't Islands the pinnacle. France can 121 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: be brilliant, but then again they might not be. And 122 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: then you've got Italy. Do you worry that psychologically you 123 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: can get past this people are going to go a 124 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:53,559 Speaker 1: bit soft. 125 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: No. I think my focus has been today in the 126 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: week in front of us, because you can start looking 127 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: idea on the check in it. You know, you want 128 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: to start looking two early at Christmas. You want you 129 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: want to make sure that you you keep what's on 130 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: front of you right the week right, And they said, 131 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: because then you get to hit the night ride and 132 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: the performances and enjoy it like we we talked a 133 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 2: little bit around the Invincibles. Now they do were away 134 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: for nine months one hundred years ago, so you've got 135 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: to put a little bit in context. A lot has changed. Yeah, 136 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: they went up in the front of the plane there 137 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: in the back of the boat, you know. So you 138 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: know we're you know, we're grateful for the opportunities as 139 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: well when you know we've got telling them representing and 140 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: serving a great country. So we put a bit of 141 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 2: perspective in it. 142 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: Fantastic, go well mate, Scott Robinson with us Mike, I 143 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: got Ireland winning first half to Leah and Will Jordan 144 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: try a score all Blacks coming through the win by 145 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: five more points. Go the All Blacks, Mike. That was 146 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: a fabulous and to be with Scott Roberson eloquent and 147 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: engaging with the incredible insights nearly really never really heard 148 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: him speak before. 149 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: Glad you like. 150 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 151 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: News Talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 152 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: the podcast on heart Radio.