1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: And Jason Wall's New storage zb's political leaders is with us. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 2: Hello, Jason, good afternoon. Howther what is the. 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Red tape that David Seymore's cutting? 4 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 2: Now, well, i'll tell you what. This is a very 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: David Seymour slash Heather Duples clan thing because it seems 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: like you guys are the only two people in the 7 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: country that are interested in this apart from me, So 8 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: I'm glad that you picked up on this. New Zealand's 9 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: labeling regime is driving up prices and limiting wage growth. 10 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: That's according to David Seymour. He also says New Zealand's 11 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: product labeling requirements are made up of thirty different codes, 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: standards and regulations, and this, he says, is leading to 13 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: costs for businesses to label their products to comply with 14 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: New Zealand export standards. So what's he doing. Well, he's 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: saying that exports export is facing extra compliance costs preparing 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: products for overseas markets, while consumers miss out on the 17 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: global goods because of importers are facing different laboring or 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 2: labeling requirements, and he's saying that he's going to make 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: some changes. Businesses like chemist warehouses have been they've he says, 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: they have been a game changer for KIWIS purchasing cheaper 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: pharmaceutical products. However, they tied up in excessive labeling requirements, 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: adding costs to their operations. So David Seymour and he's 23 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: been moving today with Scott Simpson as well to make 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: some various different changes on those to change the regulations. 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: So this all comes back to David Seymour. He's been 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: fighting regulations, he's been fighting red tape, and this is 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: just kind of another one on the wrong of the 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: ladders that David Seymour has been trying to get through 29 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 2: across the line. 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: So actually said what he wants to take out of 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: the labels will change about the labels. 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, I've been reading through this 33 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: all day, and I've been a little bit kind of 34 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: almost confused about it and in the way that I 35 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: would love to give you a little bit more information 36 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: about it, but I actually it's a little bit complex 37 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: in this stage. And it looks like He says that 38 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: the review is expected to be completed by December twenty 39 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: twenty five, so we've got a couple more months to 40 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: wait for this one. 41 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: But the reason I'm asking you this question is because 42 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: when I looked at it, it looked to me completely 43 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: devoid of detail. 44 00:01:59,200 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: Here. 45 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: It was basically saying, this is what we're gonna do. 46 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: We can't tell you what we're gonna do because we're 47 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: gonna have a look at what we're gonna do. In 48 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: which case, why are you announcing it? Only announce it 49 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: when you actually know what you're gonna do. 50 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: Well, that was my entire thought about it as well, 51 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 2: which was I thought, like, you know, we can have 52 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: a chat about it this afternoon, but I was kind 53 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: of confused about what you wanted to know about it 54 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: because I didn't have any more information about. 55 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: What We're exactly the same like tell me if I'm wrong, 56 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: please and being unfair, But are we not in exactly 57 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: the same situation with this labeling announcement as we were 58 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: last week? Was Brook van Velden's scaffolding announcement in that 59 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: they're both announcing nothing. 60 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this is exactly what I thought on 61 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: this whole thing, and this is why when I read 62 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: it and we were talking about it this morning with 63 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: my news team, was like, well do we even cover 64 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: this because I don't know what this is. I mean, 65 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: I read I read you through basically what was on 66 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: the press release, right, and I don't know what happens 67 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: next apart from he's thinking about doing some things in 68 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: December twenty twenty five. And this is what David Seymour 69 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: kind of has to worry about at the stage in 70 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: his tenure as Deputy Prime Minister. It's just announcing things, 71 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: saying we're going to get them across the line at 72 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: some point, but just giving you drip feeding bits of 73 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: information here and there. 74 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: But I don't think this is isolated to David Seymour. 75 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm seeing this across across the coalition government actually, and 76 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: a particularly national in Act that they keep on renounce 77 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: They announce little things, and then they re announce them, 78 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: and then they re announce them, and they re announcement 79 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: every point of the process. Now, is this not exactly 80 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: the same thing that we got annoyed with with j 81 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: Justin Dada. 82 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: The old announcing of announcing, the announcement of announcement. Yeah, 83 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: and I absolutely think it is. And I think that 84 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: they need to be worried about falling into the same 85 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: trap because, as you did, I looked at this press 86 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: release and I was just reading through the sort of 87 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: the highlights there and I was like, there's nothing in 88 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: this that a regular New Zealand who is reading the 89 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: news needs to actually know about. This isn't something that 90 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: people need to know about. And I think David Seymour 91 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: and the ACT Party and the government as a wider 92 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: institution needs to worry about these things because people will 93 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: cotton onto the fact that just a press release alone 94 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean you're doing something. 95 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Okay, So how is the Maori Party 96 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: and ACT teaming up? 97 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: This is good because so it's a it's an interesting 98 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: segue going for something that means essentially nothing to something 99 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: that is actually a little bit more grounded in reality. 100 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: So I've been on about this for quite some time. 101 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: Laura McClure, who is an ACT Party MP, she submitted 102 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: a member's mill, a member's bill to essentially outlaw or 103 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: to make it illegal to have non consensual AI porn 104 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: been made of a people across the country and she 105 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 2: has been she put this in the members bill and 106 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: she's been really wanting to get it across the line. 107 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: Of course, you and I know that a member's bill 108 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: means absolutely nothing unless it's drawn from the Biscuit tin. However, 109 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: there is a process where you can essentially get it 110 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: out of the biscuit tin and put it on the 111 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: government's agenda if you get enough people across the line 112 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: who are non executive members of Parliament, that is, non ministers. 113 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: Now ACT have actually got the most unlikely of partners 114 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: across the line. Tea Party Mardy Hannah Rapti Mighty Clarke 115 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: is working with Laura McClure to get this bill out 116 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: of the biscuit tin and onto the government's agenda. Now 117 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: we're not quite there yet. We need quite a few 118 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: more MPs to sign up to this, but this is 119 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: I mean, you don't see ACT and T Party Marty 120 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: getting along this well very often at all at Parliament, 121 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: in Parliament full stop. So I think this is a 122 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: really good start for a bill that I think is 123 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: genuinely quite a good piece of legislation. Paul Goldsmith I've 124 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: talked to him about this in the past and he 125 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: says that there are elements of the current legislation that 126 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: which do dabble in helping this sort of AI porn 127 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: issue to be to be something that's dealt with from 128 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 2: the police, but Laura McClure has said that it actually 129 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: doesn't quite get there, so we'll wait and see where 130 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: this gets to. But I think that the fact that 131 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: you've got Act and Tea Party Marty joining sides is 132 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: a pretty good indication to the rest of Parliament. 133 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: All Right, Jason, thanks very much, Jason Woolves News Talks, 134 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 1: thereb's political letters apt For more from Hither Duplassy Allen Drive. 135 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: Listen live to News Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, 136 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.