1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,693 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,453 --> 00:00:14,773 Speaker 2: That'd be time to catch up with Kevin Milne, who's 4 00:00:14,853 --> 00:00:16,133 Speaker 2: with us this morning more than a. 5 00:00:16,173 --> 00:00:20,213 Speaker 3: Kevin and having new year Jack. I know we've sort 6 00:00:20,213 --> 00:00:24,173 Speaker 3: of moved on, but now since januine first, but lovely 7 00:00:24,213 --> 00:00:26,613 Speaker 3: to hear your wonderful voice again. 8 00:00:26,853 --> 00:00:29,173 Speaker 4: Yeah, great to be speaking, Kevin, Yeah, very much. 9 00:00:29,213 --> 00:00:32,533 Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's in your I take it you're getting 10 00:00:32,613 --> 00:00:36,693 Speaker 3: quite close to what let's describe it as D day 11 00:00:36,733 --> 00:00:37,573 Speaker 3: delivery day. 12 00:00:37,893 --> 00:00:42,253 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well, every every morning I wake up, I 13 00:00:42,293 --> 00:00:45,053 Speaker 2: sort of think, well, that could have been the last 14 00:00:45,213 --> 00:00:46,373 Speaker 2: nice seven. 15 00:00:46,173 --> 00:00:48,013 Speaker 4: Or eight hour sleep that I'll have in a wee while. 16 00:00:49,293 --> 00:00:51,693 Speaker 2: And every night before we go to bed, my wife 17 00:00:51,733 --> 00:00:54,453 Speaker 2: trolls me by saying, oh, I think tonight could be 18 00:00:54,493 --> 00:00:58,373 Speaker 2: the night that baby comes, and I say, don't, don't will, 19 00:00:59,053 --> 00:01:01,373 Speaker 2: don't will yourself into labor at eleven pm. 20 00:01:01,453 --> 00:01:03,213 Speaker 4: What we need is to have a really. 21 00:01:03,013 --> 00:01:05,933 Speaker 2: Nice, RESTful night and then hopefully, you know, you wake 22 00:01:06,013 --> 00:01:08,213 Speaker 2: up in the morning at nine am or something you 23 00:01:08,213 --> 00:01:10,293 Speaker 2: think are things are things are going to happen? But yes, 24 00:01:10,333 --> 00:01:13,093 Speaker 2: it's very much we're in countdown mode at the moment, Kevin. 25 00:01:12,893 --> 00:01:14,173 Speaker 3: So are you nervous. 26 00:01:15,293 --> 00:01:19,693 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I suppose I'm just excited. I think, you know, 27 00:01:19,853 --> 00:01:22,373 Speaker 2: I think I think we feel relatively organized and stuff. 28 00:01:22,413 --> 00:01:25,013 Speaker 2: But it's that weird sort of that sort of you know, 29 00:01:25,253 --> 00:01:28,213 Speaker 2: just a you kind of just that weird waiting feeling. Really, 30 00:01:28,293 --> 00:01:32,013 Speaker 2: you know, you know that life's about to profoundly change, 31 00:01:32,773 --> 00:01:35,013 Speaker 2: and you know we're not running off for any sort 32 00:01:35,013 --> 00:01:37,373 Speaker 2: of adventurous tramps or anything like that right now, you're 33 00:01:37,413 --> 00:01:38,613 Speaker 2: just sort of just sort of waiting. 34 00:01:41,653 --> 00:01:45,213 Speaker 3: Throwing my mind back forty two years to when we 35 00:01:45,253 --> 00:01:47,573 Speaker 3: had our first Yeah, my big fear was that we 36 00:01:47,653 --> 00:01:51,493 Speaker 3: had end up at the maternity to be told no, 37 00:01:52,413 --> 00:01:55,333 Speaker 3: you're too early, go back home. Yeah, for some reason, 38 00:01:55,493 --> 00:01:58,333 Speaker 3: that's scared. I just was sure I didn't want that 39 00:01:58,373 --> 00:02:01,133 Speaker 3: to happen. Yeah, that we did leave it a bit 40 00:02:01,173 --> 00:02:01,653 Speaker 3: too late. 41 00:02:01,813 --> 00:02:04,253 Speaker 2: Well, I think now they have that that that does 42 00:02:04,253 --> 00:02:05,933 Speaker 2: seem to happen to people. So you left it a 43 00:02:05,973 --> 00:02:06,813 Speaker 2: bit later the end. 44 00:02:06,693 --> 00:02:10,293 Speaker 3: Did you. Yeah, Well then, yeah, Alex was poking his 45 00:02:10,373 --> 00:02:14,053 Speaker 3: head out virtually before we've even got we got caught 46 00:02:14,133 --> 00:02:14,573 Speaker 3: in the trap. 47 00:02:14,613 --> 00:02:17,653 Speaker 4: It's probably a happy medium somewhere in the middle. I think. 48 00:02:17,693 --> 00:02:21,333 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got these apps now, so you can you 49 00:02:21,373 --> 00:02:24,093 Speaker 2: can time contractions, so you get it on your phone 50 00:02:24,173 --> 00:02:26,053 Speaker 2: so you can time contractions. And then I think that's 51 00:02:26,053 --> 00:02:27,773 Speaker 2: how they try and work it out. You know, they 52 00:02:27,813 --> 00:02:30,733 Speaker 2: work out the frequency and intensity of the end of 53 00:02:30,813 --> 00:02:31,613 Speaker 2: the contractions. 54 00:02:31,653 --> 00:02:32,573 Speaker 4: And if you're the. 55 00:02:32,613 --> 00:02:34,493 Speaker 2: Dad, you can be sitting there with your phone saying, right, 56 00:02:34,533 --> 00:02:36,053 Speaker 2: give us a number out of ten, how bad was 57 00:02:36,093 --> 00:02:38,493 Speaker 2: that one? And then you do the timings, and then 58 00:02:38,493 --> 00:02:40,413 Speaker 2: when they reach a certain point, you say, Okay, let's 59 00:02:40,533 --> 00:02:43,933 Speaker 2: let's scurry along. So anyway, if I'm not here at 60 00:02:43,933 --> 00:02:46,653 Speaker 2: some point you're really like, you'll recognize where where I 61 00:02:46,653 --> 00:02:50,453 Speaker 2: probably am, Kevin. But anyway, Yeah, you have in the 62 00:02:50,533 --> 00:02:53,973 Speaker 2: last week or so, Kevin, you've struck some credit card fraud. 63 00:02:54,533 --> 00:02:57,173 Speaker 3: Yeah. Last Saturday, I went to Harvey Norman to buy 64 00:02:57,413 --> 00:03:01,053 Speaker 3: a phone charger and my credit card was rejected and 65 00:03:01,373 --> 00:03:04,453 Speaker 3: they couldn't tell me why. I assumed it was their issue. 66 00:03:04,853 --> 00:03:07,173 Speaker 3: Later that morning, I used the same credit card to 67 00:03:07,213 --> 00:03:11,573 Speaker 3: fill up with petrol, same thing card rejected. When I 68 00:03:11,653 --> 00:03:14,653 Speaker 3: got home and discovered that overnight, we got an email 69 00:03:14,693 --> 00:03:17,733 Speaker 3: from the Bend's head saying they temporarily blocked our credit 70 00:03:17,773 --> 00:03:22,613 Speaker 3: card account. This was due to activity outside our normal 71 00:03:22,733 --> 00:03:26,453 Speaker 3: spending patterns. In the early hours of the morning. Apparently 72 00:03:26,893 --> 00:03:30,413 Speaker 3: five withdrawals had been made on our account by companies 73 00:03:30,413 --> 00:03:33,613 Speaker 3: in the United States, each withdrawal for around about five 74 00:03:33,693 --> 00:03:37,973 Speaker 3: hundred bus Fortunately, the BNZ had picked up the unusual 75 00:03:38,013 --> 00:03:42,293 Speaker 3: activity after just two withdrawals and blocked our account, so 76 00:03:42,613 --> 00:03:45,173 Speaker 3: the later three attempts to take money from our account 77 00:03:45,213 --> 00:03:49,013 Speaker 3: were prevented. Anyway, the email told us to call the 78 00:03:50,133 --> 00:03:54,293 Speaker 3: suspected fraud number on the back of your credit card. 79 00:03:55,293 --> 00:03:57,533 Speaker 3: The bank security person told us we had to do 80 00:03:57,613 --> 00:04:01,093 Speaker 3: two things. Closed down the credit card and set up 81 00:04:01,133 --> 00:04:04,533 Speaker 3: another that had already started that process, and we had 82 00:04:04,573 --> 00:04:07,693 Speaker 3: to put an acclaim against the bank to refund the 83 00:04:07,773 --> 00:04:11,253 Speaker 3: one thousand dollars or so taken from our account in 84 00:04:11,333 --> 00:04:13,933 Speaker 3: the first two withdrawals that they hadn't been able to stop. 85 00:04:14,613 --> 00:04:19,413 Speaker 3: That process was very swift, and the bank's already refunded it. Jack, 86 00:04:19,453 --> 00:04:22,493 Speaker 3: I've yet to establish if this fraud was in any 87 00:04:22,533 --> 00:04:26,253 Speaker 3: way enabled by us, but it's impressed by the B 88 00:04:26,413 --> 00:04:29,693 Speaker 3: and Z. My takeaway is, if your credit cards are 89 00:04:29,733 --> 00:04:33,013 Speaker 3: rejected at a store for no apparent reason, don't just 90 00:04:33,133 --> 00:04:37,853 Speaker 3: assume you vent you emptied your account yourself. Someone else 91 00:04:38,173 --> 00:04:41,053 Speaker 3: might be trying to empty it for you call up 92 00:04:41,053 --> 00:04:44,213 Speaker 3: the bank that issued the card straight away. Yeah. 93 00:04:44,333 --> 00:04:45,813 Speaker 4: I think that's really important advice. 94 00:04:45,853 --> 00:04:47,493 Speaker 2: You know, you want to be in contact with your 95 00:04:47,533 --> 00:04:50,573 Speaker 2: bank immediately, and most of them, you know, the big banks, 96 00:04:50,613 --> 00:04:53,253 Speaker 2: with their phone lines now you can if you're suspecting 97 00:04:53,293 --> 00:04:55,093 Speaker 2: credit card forward, you can get through to a human 98 00:04:55,133 --> 00:04:56,013 Speaker 2: being pretty quickly. 99 00:04:56,453 --> 00:04:59,053 Speaker 4: You can also put your put your credit. 100 00:04:58,813 --> 00:05:00,893 Speaker 2: Card on hold on a lot of apps now, which 101 00:05:01,133 --> 00:05:03,013 Speaker 2: you know, can be quite useful if you suspect that 102 00:05:03,053 --> 00:05:06,293 Speaker 2: there's some weird transactions underway and you don't want any 103 00:05:06,493 --> 00:05:10,733 Speaker 2: else going in there and you know, and and spending 104 00:05:10,733 --> 00:05:13,213 Speaker 2: all your money. So yeah, I'm glad that things worked 105 00:05:13,213 --> 00:05:15,093 Speaker 2: out for you, okay in the ink he even because, 106 00:05:15,093 --> 00:05:17,453 Speaker 2: my goodness, there are certainly plenty of stories where they don't. 107 00:05:18,253 --> 00:05:21,493 Speaker 3: My goodness, it must be happening all the time. Now, 108 00:05:21,573 --> 00:05:24,933 Speaker 3: these are the guys at the security guys just it 109 00:05:24,973 --> 00:05:28,893 Speaker 3: was just another phone call, really, just another somebody else 110 00:05:28,973 --> 00:05:32,693 Speaker 3: of their customers had had their account raided. Yeah, you know, 111 00:05:32,773 --> 00:05:36,253 Speaker 3: it's just it's very insane. I don't know how I'm 112 00:05:36,253 --> 00:05:38,173 Speaker 3: looking forward to finding out a bit more about how 113 00:05:38,173 --> 00:05:38,733 Speaker 3: it happened. 114 00:05:38,893 --> 00:05:42,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well see yeah, oh thanks Kevin, glad to 115 00:05:42,213 --> 00:05:44,053 Speaker 2: hear that things are well with you and that things 116 00:05:44,093 --> 00:05:44,853 Speaker 2: turned out okay. 117 00:05:44,893 --> 00:05:47,413 Speaker 4: And look, Kevin, you're not the only one who had 118 00:05:47,413 --> 00:05:48,373 Speaker 4: a bit of drama. 119 00:05:50,653 --> 00:05:50,893 Speaker 3: Jack. 120 00:05:50,973 --> 00:05:54,133 Speaker 2: This time last week, my niece was weekending in Parwannui. 121 00:05:54,213 --> 00:05:57,813 Speaker 2: Water broke at eleven forty five pm, headed off for 122 00:05:57,853 --> 00:06:00,493 Speaker 2: the pukako im maternity Bubb arrived at one am, though 123 00:06:00,533 --> 00:06:01,293 Speaker 2: on the side of the road. 124 00:06:01,293 --> 00:06:05,013 Speaker 4: At Oh my goodness, the owner. You're stressing me. 125 00:06:06,413 --> 00:06:08,453 Speaker 2: And it's not the only one, Ryan says Jack. The 126 00:06:08,453 --> 00:06:10,893 Speaker 2: apps don't always help my cousins. Water broke at eleven 127 00:06:10,933 --> 00:06:13,613 Speaker 2: fifty seven, Hopped in the car, headed to the hospital, 128 00:06:13,613 --> 00:06:15,293 Speaker 2: delivered on the side of the road. I wonder if 129 00:06:15,333 --> 00:06:18,173 Speaker 2: Ryan and Fiona are related. Those timing seem to work 130 00:06:18,173 --> 00:06:20,733 Speaker 2: out that things that wouldn't surprise me entirely. 131 00:06:20,813 --> 00:06:22,373 Speaker 4: Ninety two ninety two. 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