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Speaker 1: So maybe some good news on this ongoing grocery debate.

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Speaker 1: Z Energy of announced they're looking to expand their roles.

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Speaker 1: So they've got these top up shops, which they argue

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Speaker 1: is the sort of the stuff you need between the

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Speaker 1: big shops, so they're expanding some of those. See Chapman's

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Speaker 1: the chair of the Grocery Action Group and cheese with

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Speaker 1: the US soon Morning, Good Morning, between the warehouse and

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Speaker 1: these sort of offerings. Is this a sign the market's

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Speaker 1: kind of responding or sort of working or not.

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't think it's a sign that the market

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Speaker 2: is working. I mean, really, what we need and what

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Speaker 2: I think Nikola Willis has realized, is that we need

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Speaker 2: light for light competition. So we need you know, big

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Speaker 2: supermarkets like New Worlds and like packing saves or competing.

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Speaker 2: This is you know, this is sort of I mean, cynically,

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Speaker 2: you could say, why are they announcing this at this time,

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Speaker 2: because they are also, of course a market that's under

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Speaker 2: investigation for sort of duopolistic type behavior. But you know,

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Speaker 2: it's slightly good news for consumers. I imagine every think

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Speaker 2: will be reasonably expensive. They won't have anything fresh or frozen,

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Speaker 2: which is kind of where the big competition is, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you want to top up at it at a

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Speaker 2: gas station, you might be able to get some bits

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Speaker 2: and bobs, but you won't be doing your grocery shop there.

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Speaker 2: And this is not the answer to our problem with

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Speaker 2: some very high grocery prices.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe Willis when she yet again says yesterday

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Speaker 1: after the budget she's back into them, And what magic

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Speaker 1: is she going to wave our way?

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Speaker 2: I don't think she's going to wave any magic, but

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Speaker 2: I think what she's going to do is say, you know,

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Speaker 2: we can't keep listening to the Duopoli saying you know

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Speaker 2: that that we do have competition in New Zealand. We

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Speaker 2: don't you know, they've got sort of eighty ninety percent

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Speaker 2: of the market between two In Australia they can plain

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Speaker 2: when the jeopoly's got sixty percent of the market. So

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Speaker 2: she's going to have to look at ownership quite seriously.

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Speaker 2: But in the end it may well be that the

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Speaker 2: supermarket owners still own a food stuff area their shops,

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Speaker 2: but they know they have a different sort of head office.

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Speaker 2: There are all sorts of ways of cutting this, and

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Speaker 2: I think she's seriously looking at how that might happen

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Speaker 2: for the benefit of consumers.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what happens to appreciate it, chair of the

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