1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:26,373 Speaker 1: from News Talks at bas. 3 00:00:27,173 --> 00:00:31,693 Speaker 2: Last Me. Taylor Swift has brought the original recordings to 4 00:00:31,773 --> 00:00:35,893 Speaker 2: her first six albums. This is ending years long legal 5 00:00:35,973 --> 00:00:38,813 Speaker 2: saga that you remember. She started re recording all her 6 00:00:39,133 --> 00:00:41,253 Speaker 2: old work because she no longer owned it, and then 7 00:00:41,293 --> 00:00:44,133 Speaker 2: so she re recorded it, so she owned those recordings 8 00:00:44,213 --> 00:00:47,653 Speaker 2: and actually the fans were loving it because she'd changed 9 00:00:47,693 --> 00:00:50,493 Speaker 2: the songs a little bird or strow in an extra track, 10 00:00:50,653 --> 00:00:53,773 Speaker 2: or do things a little bit differently, and the Swifties 11 00:00:53,813 --> 00:00:56,933 Speaker 2: would sit and then compare it and all. It's very exciting. Anyway, 12 00:00:57,653 --> 00:01:00,013 Speaker 2: She's just of course finished the Eras tour around the world, 13 00:01:00,093 --> 00:01:03,693 Speaker 2: but she has finally been able to buy back those 14 00:01:03,773 --> 00:01:08,973 Speaker 2: original recordings, which is really good for her. Although a 15 00:01:09,013 --> 00:01:12,373 Speaker 2: lot of Swifties we're expecting her to now release Reputation 16 00:01:12,933 --> 00:01:15,253 Speaker 2: as a rerecorded album and we're very much looking forward 17 00:01:15,253 --> 00:01:16,573 Speaker 2: to it, and she probably won't do that now she 18 00:01:16,613 --> 00:01:20,493 Speaker 2: doesn't need to. She owns it, so good honor. That 19 00:01:20,653 --> 00:01:23,853 Speaker 2: was quite a long battle for her and she has 20 00:01:23,853 --> 00:01:26,773 Speaker 2: won it right film time now and I'm joined by 21 00:01:26,813 --> 00:01:30,333 Speaker 2: writer of weekly film and TV Substack Screen crack Kyl 22 00:01:30,413 --> 00:01:34,933 Speaker 2: Pushman is worth me. Good morning, Carl, Hi Patrisco. Good 23 00:01:35,013 --> 00:01:36,773 Speaker 2: to talk to you. We've got a couple of films 24 00:01:36,853 --> 00:01:40,253 Speaker 2: to discuss today. Let's start with Mountain Head and have 25 00:01:40,293 --> 00:01:40,813 Speaker 2: a listen to this. 26 00:01:42,333 --> 00:01:45,733 Speaker 1: I hope you rich folks don't mind slumming it and 27 00:01:45,773 --> 00:01:48,413 Speaker 1: the humble abode of the poorest billionaire in the gang. 28 00:01:48,453 --> 00:01:52,093 Speaker 2: All right, your platform. 29 00:01:51,653 --> 00:01:54,013 Speaker 1: Is a flamed Voldel situations. 30 00:01:53,733 --> 00:01:57,893 Speaker 2: Weapons start piling, some bank fronts, violence, chaos, and people 31 00:01:57,933 --> 00:02:01,853 Speaker 2: are dying. Not real, and don't explode like that, and don't. 32 00:02:01,693 --> 00:02:05,333 Speaker 1: Explode like that. You know how to heads explode. 33 00:02:05,653 --> 00:02:09,693 Speaker 2: It seems to me, Karl, that only Jessy Armstrong could 34 00:02:09,853 --> 00:02:11,173 Speaker 2: pull something like this together. 35 00:02:12,493 --> 00:02:15,573 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you find yourself watching a movie with four 36 00:02:15,773 --> 00:02:20,613 Speaker 3: extremely unlikable lead characters, which might be a cinema first 37 00:02:20,653 --> 00:02:23,173 Speaker 3: I think normally there's someone to get behind and root for, 38 00:02:23,333 --> 00:02:26,253 Speaker 3: but here you don't like anyone. It's quite unusual in 39 00:02:26,253 --> 00:02:30,333 Speaker 3: that regard. There the four main characters are tech billionaires, 40 00:02:30,333 --> 00:02:32,973 Speaker 3: tech brollionaiers, if i'd like to call them, and they're 41 00:02:32,973 --> 00:02:36,653 Speaker 3: all sort of based on that they've got familiarities with 42 00:02:36,773 --> 00:02:40,893 Speaker 3: our actual real world current crop of billionaires. You know, 43 00:02:40,973 --> 00:02:46,213 Speaker 3: there's that same arrogance, hubrious abhorrence, but it doesn't copy 44 00:02:46,253 --> 00:02:49,973 Speaker 3: their direct persona. So there's no Elon Musk, but there are, 45 00:02:50,173 --> 00:02:51,813 Speaker 3: but one of the characters has a lot of Elon 46 00:02:51,853 --> 00:02:54,293 Speaker 3: Musk characteristics if you sort of follow me. And it's 47 00:02:54,453 --> 00:02:59,013 Speaker 3: all about one of them unleashing a genitor of generative 48 00:02:59,213 --> 00:03:02,773 Speaker 3: AI onto their social network, which is capable of producing 49 00:03:03,013 --> 00:03:08,413 Speaker 3: photorealistic movies. Predictably, this lead to instant chaos with no 50 00:03:08,853 --> 00:03:13,773 Speaker 3: guardrails implemented around its usage, and the world falls into 51 00:03:14,293 --> 00:03:18,053 Speaker 3: quite a lot of global conflict happening, which they see 52 00:03:18,213 --> 00:03:21,813 Speaker 3: as an opportunity to exert their digital influence and implement 53 00:03:21,893 --> 00:03:24,773 Speaker 3: their sort of tech pro philosophies, which all will be 54 00:03:24,813 --> 00:03:26,533 Speaker 3: familiar to those that sort of follow the news. And 55 00:03:26,613 --> 00:03:28,333 Speaker 3: what these people do actually. 56 00:03:28,133 --> 00:03:30,533 Speaker 2: Believe they speak their own language, don't they, Carl And, 57 00:03:30,573 --> 00:03:32,893 Speaker 2: to be honest with you, when the film began, I thought, 58 00:03:32,933 --> 00:03:35,173 Speaker 2: I'm not sure I can keep up with this. You know, 59 00:03:35,253 --> 00:03:38,533 Speaker 2: they have their own language, they have their own philosophies 60 00:03:38,573 --> 00:03:40,533 Speaker 2: and moral compass and just way of talking about the 61 00:03:40,613 --> 00:03:42,493 Speaker 2: world which takes a little happened. I don't know if 62 00:03:42,533 --> 00:03:44,933 Speaker 2: you noticed this. There is a point in the film 63 00:03:45,213 --> 00:03:47,773 Speaker 2: where Sev Carrel, who is playing one of these tech bros. 64 00:03:48,173 --> 00:03:51,173 Speaker 2: He runs into a glass door in this sutom monste 65 00:03:51,613 --> 00:03:53,533 Speaker 2: a house that they're living in that they're all staying 66 00:03:53,573 --> 00:03:55,653 Speaker 2: for a weekend, and up in the mountains he runs 67 00:03:55,653 --> 00:03:58,333 Speaker 2: into a glass door and it's like the film switches 68 00:03:58,413 --> 00:04:01,773 Speaker 2: from a satire to a black comedy, and all of 69 00:04:01,773 --> 00:04:02,693 Speaker 2: a sudden, I was all in. 70 00:04:04,053 --> 00:04:06,573 Speaker 3: That is exactly my experience the first heart. I can 71 00:04:06,693 --> 00:04:08,693 Speaker 3: use a sports analogy for a second. The first half 72 00:04:09,173 --> 00:04:11,173 Speaker 3: it's a movie of two halves. In the first half 73 00:04:11,333 --> 00:04:13,973 Speaker 3: I've found quite boring, and there were zings flying, but 74 00:04:14,013 --> 00:04:16,293 Speaker 3: they weren't landing, and I was thinking this should be 75 00:04:16,693 --> 00:04:19,533 Speaker 3: way funnier than it is. I recognize that they're saying jokes, 76 00:04:19,573 --> 00:04:21,373 Speaker 3: but they're just it's just not fun. It's just not 77 00:04:21,413 --> 00:04:24,733 Speaker 3: that funny at that point that you've just mentioned, the 78 00:04:24,813 --> 00:04:28,013 Speaker 3: film does the second half so worth it? It is 79 00:04:28,213 --> 00:04:30,853 Speaker 3: just like laugh out loud hilarious, And there's sort of 80 00:04:30,893 --> 00:04:34,853 Speaker 3: a mix between the witty zingers and one liners and 81 00:04:34,973 --> 00:04:37,293 Speaker 3: that little bit of physical comedy as well in there, 82 00:04:37,293 --> 00:04:40,493 Speaker 3: which just elevates the whole thing. So it's quite Yeah, 83 00:04:40,693 --> 00:04:43,413 Speaker 3: it's another strange part of the film where the first 84 00:04:43,453 --> 00:04:46,253 Speaker 3: half is a drag and the second half it is 85 00:04:46,333 --> 00:04:46,813 Speaker 3: quite brilliant. 86 00:04:46,853 --> 00:04:49,573 Speaker 2: I thought, No, I completely agreed, and just that the 87 00:04:49,773 --> 00:04:54,493 Speaker 2: arrogance and the greed of these men is just extraordinary. 88 00:04:57,133 --> 00:04:59,093 Speaker 3: And so timely, Like I think it's quite possibly the 89 00:04:59,133 --> 00:05:02,293 Speaker 3: most timely film ever released, Like they only finished shooting 90 00:05:02,333 --> 00:05:07,373 Speaker 3: it last month, so it's got out blisteringly quick due 91 00:05:07,373 --> 00:05:10,693 Speaker 3: to a quirk and timing. It's so timely and so relevant, 92 00:05:11,133 --> 00:05:13,213 Speaker 3: but also a little bit outdated because they're dealing with 93 00:05:13,333 --> 00:05:18,053 Speaker 3: this catastrophe about Photorealistic AI being released, and a few 94 00:05:18,133 --> 00:05:21,413 Speaker 3: days ago Google did release the three, which is capable 95 00:05:21,453 --> 00:05:23,453 Speaker 3: of doing exactly what they're talking about in the movie, 96 00:05:23,973 --> 00:05:27,693 Speaker 3: which kind of makes it from a slightly futuristic satire 97 00:05:27,813 --> 00:05:29,853 Speaker 3: to almost an episode of Black Mirror where you're like, oh, 98 00:05:29,933 --> 00:05:32,573 Speaker 3: this is reality that we're actually now living in. So 99 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:35,413 Speaker 3: I hadn't been released last week, it would have been 100 00:05:35,453 --> 00:05:37,733 Speaker 3: a different story. But it's just so strange. Well, that's 101 00:05:37,733 --> 00:05:38,613 Speaker 3: how fast tech moves. 102 00:05:38,933 --> 00:05:40,693 Speaker 2: It's amazing, isn't it. I mean, this is how horrible 103 00:05:40,733 --> 00:05:44,173 Speaker 2: these people are. Right, So they call their host and 104 00:05:44,293 --> 00:05:47,293 Speaker 2: they call him Super, which is short for Soup Kitchen 105 00:05:47,533 --> 00:05:50,133 Speaker 2: because he's only worth five hundred and thirty million and 106 00:05:50,253 --> 00:05:51,533 Speaker 2: the rest of them worth billions. 107 00:05:52,413 --> 00:05:56,093 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's the paupa of the group the 108 00:05:56,173 --> 00:05:57,333 Speaker 3: podcast to be that poor. 109 00:05:57,493 --> 00:06:00,533 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, OK. Let's talk about another film. And I'm 110 00:06:00,533 --> 00:06:03,253 Speaker 2: really pleased that you're talking about this because Captain America 111 00:06:03,333 --> 00:06:06,173 Speaker 2: Brave World was released early on in the cinemas, but 112 00:06:06,453 --> 00:06:08,733 Speaker 2: it kind of just was released with no hype. No 113 00:06:08,813 --> 00:06:10,653 Speaker 2: one really knew it was out, and it's now being 114 00:06:11,253 --> 00:06:15,413 Speaker 2: released on Disney. Let's have a listen. I was wartime general, 115 00:06:16,933 --> 00:06:21,333 Speaker 2: now I'm a wartime president. Your inner circle's been compromised. 116 00:06:21,613 --> 00:06:22,293 Speaker 3: Let me fix it. 117 00:06:22,853 --> 00:06:23,453 Speaker 1: Wash yourself. 118 00:06:24,853 --> 00:06:32,533 Speaker 2: You're not Steve Rogers, You're right, I'm no. So that 119 00:06:32,733 --> 00:06:36,693 Speaker 2: was Captain America Brave New World out now on Disney Plus. 120 00:06:36,933 --> 00:06:38,893 Speaker 2: Carlor is Marvel losing its magic. 121 00:06:40,653 --> 00:06:43,693 Speaker 3: It's I think it lost its magic for a little 122 00:06:43,733 --> 00:06:47,893 Speaker 3: while there, and it's in course correction mode. And this 123 00:06:48,093 --> 00:06:50,973 Speaker 3: is part of the course correction. It's you know, it's 124 00:06:51,013 --> 00:06:53,413 Speaker 3: a it's a massive ship. This is like the thirty 125 00:06:53,493 --> 00:06:56,413 Speaker 3: fifth film in the series, which is just bananas when 126 00:06:56,413 --> 00:06:58,733 Speaker 3: you stop and think about it. So it's a it's 127 00:06:58,773 --> 00:07:01,773 Speaker 3: a slow shift, but I think they are talking about 128 00:07:01,813 --> 00:07:04,333 Speaker 3: they went through that period where there was just too many. 129 00:07:04,453 --> 00:07:07,453 Speaker 3: It was an overwhelming amount of films. You just, unless 130 00:07:07,453 --> 00:07:09,253 Speaker 3: you would die hard, it was impossible to keep up. 131 00:07:09,853 --> 00:07:12,733 Speaker 3: So they're in this tricky place now where they're trying 132 00:07:12,733 --> 00:07:15,493 Speaker 3: to balance those die hard fans and bringing people sort 133 00:07:15,493 --> 00:07:18,493 Speaker 3: of like me that dipped out of the franchise bring 134 00:07:18,573 --> 00:07:23,773 Speaker 3: them back. And it's a hard balance, and yeah, how 135 00:07:23,893 --> 00:07:26,253 Speaker 3: much you buy into it, They've got to make it 136 00:07:26,333 --> 00:07:29,853 Speaker 3: so it appeals to someone just casually watching. And this 137 00:07:30,013 --> 00:07:34,253 Speaker 3: is a political action thriller at its heart, with a giant, 138 00:07:34,253 --> 00:07:37,333 Speaker 3: big Red Hulk running around smashing them things up. But 139 00:07:37,813 --> 00:07:39,893 Speaker 3: it does do what it sets out to do quite well. 140 00:07:39,973 --> 00:07:42,293 Speaker 3: There's a lot of fan stuff that they'll be into, 141 00:07:42,693 --> 00:07:45,453 Speaker 3: but you can sit down and understand what's going on 142 00:07:46,173 --> 00:07:49,253 Speaker 3: without needing the prior knowledge of the thirty five films. 143 00:07:49,453 --> 00:07:52,933 Speaker 3: You know, the big drawers. Harrison Ford playing the President, 144 00:07:53,133 --> 00:07:56,013 Speaker 3: who has anger management problems that lead them to becoming 145 00:07:56,173 --> 00:07:58,293 Speaker 3: Red Hulk, which is obviously a problem for the President 146 00:07:58,333 --> 00:08:01,373 Speaker 3: of the United States of America. And then there's America 147 00:08:01,453 --> 00:08:03,933 Speaker 3: played by Anthony Mackie, who's really great. He's the new 148 00:08:04,013 --> 00:08:07,053 Speaker 3: Captain and he's trying to work out why this is 149 00:08:07,333 --> 00:08:11,933 Speaker 3: happening and prevent it from happening. So there's a lot 150 00:08:12,093 --> 00:08:16,213 Speaker 3: going on, but there's enough there for both camps to enjoy. 151 00:08:16,773 --> 00:08:21,253 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a solid home run for the MCU, 152 00:08:21,693 --> 00:08:24,493 Speaker 3: but it's a it's a decent watch on streaming for 153 00:08:24,813 --> 00:08:25,693 Speaker 3: say a Saturday night. 154 00:08:25,933 --> 00:08:29,573 Speaker 2: Okay, so you said this is a gentle reboot almost, I. 155 00:08:29,533 --> 00:08:30,453 Speaker 3: Don't know if I've done that far. 156 00:08:30,533 --> 00:08:30,813 Speaker 2: Okay. 157 00:08:30,813 --> 00:08:33,493 Speaker 3: I just think it's a it's like it is continuing 158 00:08:33,853 --> 00:08:37,253 Speaker 3: things on, like there's references to everything. It has that 159 00:08:37,333 --> 00:08:42,173 Speaker 3: same Marvel problem where a problem for casual people like me, 160 00:08:42,333 --> 00:08:45,373 Speaker 3: but what the fans are into where it's setting up 161 00:08:45,453 --> 00:08:46,813 Speaker 3: things for the next film, So you kind of feel 162 00:08:46,813 --> 00:08:49,013 Speaker 3: like you're in that cycle of I'm watching this film, 163 00:08:49,053 --> 00:08:50,813 Speaker 3: but it's kind of set up for the next film, 164 00:08:50,853 --> 00:08:52,213 Speaker 3: and then you watch that next film and it's kind 165 00:08:52,213 --> 00:08:54,933 Speaker 3: of sitting up for the next door. That might be 166 00:08:54,973 --> 00:08:56,853 Speaker 3: familiar to anyone who's sort of spent some time around 167 00:08:56,893 --> 00:08:59,093 Speaker 3: the MCU. So it's definitely got that aspect to it 168 00:08:59,893 --> 00:09:01,973 Speaker 3: where things are being set up. I would have liked 169 00:09:01,973 --> 00:09:04,293 Speaker 3: to see a little bit more Red Hulk in it, 170 00:09:04,413 --> 00:09:09,813 Speaker 3: because you know that's obviously her going help rage is 171 00:09:10,013 --> 00:09:13,653 Speaker 3: quite a quite a slight, but yeah, it was. It 172 00:09:13,733 --> 00:09:17,493 Speaker 3: was all right. It's not going to convince anyone unconvinced. 173 00:09:19,533 --> 00:09:21,613 Speaker 2: And Carl, are we expecting the Avengers to come back? 174 00:09:23,253 --> 00:09:27,693 Speaker 3: Well, that's we're not going to spoil the territory. 175 00:09:28,373 --> 00:09:29,213 Speaker 2: Okay, right right right, no. 176 00:09:30,813 --> 00:09:33,493 Speaker 3: Fan, no, no, no, no no, we don't want to. 177 00:09:33,573 --> 00:09:35,653 Speaker 2: I do not want to have the Avengers dance on 178 00:09:35,733 --> 00:09:37,253 Speaker 2: the text machine for the rest of the morning. So 179 00:09:37,453 --> 00:09:39,773 Speaker 2: let's just leave it there. Cal Pushman, thank you so 180 00:09:39,973 --> 00:09:43,133 Speaker 2: much for your thoughts this morning. That was Cal Pushman, 181 00:09:43,493 --> 00:09:48,013 Speaker 2: writer of weekly film and TV Substack Scream Craig for. 182 00:09:48,133 --> 00:09:51,173 Speaker 1: More from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live to 183 00:09:51,293 --> 00:09:54,293 Speaker 1: news talks that'd be from nine am Saturday, or follow 184 00:09:54,373 --> 00:09:55,893 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio