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Speaker 1: Now the Prime Minister's trip to India off to a

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Speaker 1: flying start. Today free trade deal negotiations are officially underway.

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Speaker 1: Lux And is set to meet with Nerandramodi later today.

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Speaker 1: Export industries are holding their breath. They're very hopeful about this,

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Speaker 1: but is it going to be comprehensive? Should we even

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Speaker 1: get our hopes up? Export industries? Sorry, our Meat Industry

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Speaker 1: Association chair, former Primary Industries Minister Nathan Guys with me

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Speaker 1: from Delhi minister a former minister.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Oh, good evening, Ryan, how are you? Yeah? Good?

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Speaker 1: Thanks, good to have you back on the show. When

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Speaker 1: you were last doing negotiations or you were, you were

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Speaker 1: involved in those negotiations with the Indians under the Key government.

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Speaker 2: Was what was it?

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Speaker 1: Was it just dairy that was the sticking point? What

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Speaker 1: were the issues?

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Speaker 2: Our dear has always been a little bit problematic up here.

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Speaker 2: But this is a comprehensive agreement that the negotiation that started,

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Speaker 2: So the word comprehensive is critical. Australia got a side

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Speaker 2: there a few years ago. But we're hoping that we

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Speaker 2: can get something across the line. For Derry, I guess

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Speaker 2: the challenge will be to do with Indians who want

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Speaker 2: to come down to our fantastic country and how the

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Speaker 2: government chooses to manage that. But if I put my

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Speaker 2: red meat hat on, in particular in the sheep market, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: this is a significant day for our sheep farmers and

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Speaker 2: our processes because we're at the start line. Yes, we've

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Speaker 2: been here before, but it feels different. We've got a

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Speaker 2: massive delegation up here about eighty and the business delegation,

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Speaker 2: and that's significant. The Prime Minister has got some great

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Speaker 2: FaceTime with Prime Minister Modi, so the feeling is different.

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Speaker 2: And of course right now the world is crazy, so

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Speaker 2: we need to keep diversifying and looking at new market opportunities.

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Speaker 1: Is that what's making it different?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: The Trump the way the rest of the world is

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Speaker 1: behaving right now. Do you think that might actually help

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Speaker 1: our chances? Is that what's contributing to that different feeling.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it is. I and India is also

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Speaker 2: negotiating with EU, UK and US, so there's a lot

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Speaker 2: going on in this space. We're smaller, you know, if

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Speaker 2: you look at what's happening up here with sheep meat.

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Speaker 2: At the moment, we're facing a thirty percent tariff and

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Speaker 2: that's a massive headwind so there's not a lot going

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Speaker 2: on here. There's one company, Quality in Zed who's been

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Speaker 2: pushing against strong headwinds in this market with New Zealand

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Speaker 2: cricketers helping them to get access, so that's quite a

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Speaker 2: success story, but certainly at low levels. So it just

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Speaker 2: feels different because a we hear big business delegation. Todd

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Speaker 2: McLay has been working tirelessly on this. I think he's

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Speaker 2: up to about a seventh visit. He had a fantastic

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Speaker 2: meeting yesterday with his equivalent, Minister Gal So it feels

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Speaker 2: like we've got momentum. Ryan, we're at the start line.

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Speaker 2: Very good, exciting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good luck with that Nathan guy who's the Meat

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Speaker 1: Industry Association share of course, former Minister of Primary Industries

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Speaker 1: had done a few trips himself. They need to give

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Speaker 1: maclay an Indian passport at this point, he's done that

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Speaker 1: much travel between New Zealand and India over the last

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