1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Now the Prime Minister is beating the trade drum again 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: on his ninth trip overseas since coming into office. He's 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,040 Speaker 1: on a mission to double trade in the next ten years. 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Spent two days in Malaysia, the first visit by a 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: New Zealand Prome minister there since twenty fifteen, and he's 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: currently in South Korea with trade and security high on 7 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: the agenda and Christopher Luxin's with us. 8 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 2: Now, Hey, Chris, get a here. How are you today? 9 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: Well? Thank you? Hey. Do you know what I've noticed 10 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: about your trip is that there's hardly any media coverage 11 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: of it. What's going on? 12 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: Well, all I know is I'm going from meeting to meeting, 13 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: meeting with investors and he got a business delegation. I've 14 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: been doing a bunch of deals while I've been here, 15 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: both in Malaysia and Korea, so i haven't been paying 16 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: too much attention to media attention on it. I'm just 17 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: getting on and getting the job done, which is that 18 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: we have to get rich, and we've got to get 19 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: rich by selling more stuff to people around the Southeast 20 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: data region for sure, Rich. 21 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: Chris, who've you got on which media? Who's who from 22 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: the media, contingent are on the trip with you. 23 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: We've got TVs there with us on this trip and 24 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: they were with me today when I was sat at EMC. 25 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: You've got Bennette Collins and that's it. 26 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: I think that's in the delegation. Yes, he's traveling on 27 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: us in the downgdation. 28 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: Okay, an ease line commercial. 29 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I am. 30 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: Well, there's your problem, isn't it. You haven't subsidized the 31 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: media to come on the trip with you, so they 32 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: don't want to pay. 33 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean I'm able to talk directly to 34 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: the New Zealanders through something called social media, which is 35 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: a novel idea, but it seems to work, and we 36 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 2: talk straight to them and tell them exactly what I'm doing. 37 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: So I think people at home understand why I'm here, 38 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: and why I am here is because you know, New 39 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: Zealand needs to become much wealthier. We do want to 40 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: double our exports. We do want to attract investment to 41 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: New Zealand to get out roads built, to get a 42 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: lot of infrastructure built in the country. And you know 43 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: that's my job is to make sure that we are 44 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: making people aware that we are open for business and 45 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: we want to be able to work with them and 46 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: deep in those relationships. 47 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: Has the fairy issue come up in South Korea? 48 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: No, not at all, because you know, you've got to remember, 49 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: a career is a two point seven trillion dollar economy, 50 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: and ultimately that's a dispute between two commercially and US. 51 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: You see, it's results. 52 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: It's obviously sensitive enough for our ambassador there to have 53 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: to tell a high level diplomat beforehand, right, So, like, 54 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: are you telling me absolutely? No one's mentioned it at all. 55 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: No, I hasn't come up in conversation whatsoever. And it's 56 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: not something that I've proactively raised either. It's something that 57 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: deserves you know, that can be raised through contractual arrangements 58 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: and contracts that exists between Korean firm and a New 59 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: Zealand firm, and they're quite capable of sorting that out. 60 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: Hey, how are you going to make us rich out 61 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: of South Korea? 62 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean there's huge opportunities here. I mean 63 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: even yesterday I talked to President Un and we agreed 64 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: to remove some what are called non tariff barriers that 65 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: exists between our two countries. And so you know, five 66 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: different dairy type of products that have been difficult to 67 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: sell in Korea. We've been able to free that up. 68 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: The same with things like blueberries and you know, even 69 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: just those little things. You know, that's fifteen million dollars 70 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: worth of value to New Zealand each and every year. 71 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: We've agreed to look it upgrading our FTA agreement over 72 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: the course of next year, which is important to make 73 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: sure that we've got really competitive settings that New Zealand 74 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: growers and producers and those of tech firms look renewable energy, 75 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: but also in advanced aviation and space our opportunities for New 76 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 2: Zealand as well. So you know, it's really about us understanding. Look, 77 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: you know, we do not get wealthy in a small 78 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: country selling stuff to each other. We need to get 79 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: out in the world and hustle. And that's why I've 80 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: had it so hard in my first year, because I 81 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 2: really and I've got Winston Peter's out there on the 82 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: planes a lot. I've got Trade ministerm maclay out there. 83 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: I've got Defense Minister Collins out there as well, like 84 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: the four of us to lift our intensity and our 85 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: urgency and our relationships because we have to convert opportunity 86 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: for New Zealand people and that means trade, and we 87 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: know when New Zealand firms are exporting, they are able 88 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: to pay much higher wages as a consequence because they're 89 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: doing better than those that aren't exporting. And so it's 90 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: a really important thing that I do everything I can 91 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: to set the conditions and the set up right. We've 92 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: got I think twenty two outstanding business leaders here from 93 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: a range of sectors across the economy. Yous today. I 94 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: sat there and you know, we signed ten deals between 95 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: Korean and New Zealand companies. We did similarly similar activity 96 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: in Malaysia as well, So all of that is incredibly 97 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: positive in Malaysia. You know, just by showing up talking 98 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: to the Prime Minister and the officials, I said, well, look, 99 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: you know, we want to sell red meat into Malaysia. 100 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: It's very difficult at the moment with halal regulations and 101 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: bureaucracy on your side. We need to get that sort 102 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: of Prime Minister and we both committed that, you know, 103 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: in the next two months, we would make our officials, 104 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: particularly on the Malaysian side, actually get that job done 105 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: so we can get red meat flowing into Malaysia. 106 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: Did I hear that you saw one of those rubbish 107 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: balloons being launched by North Korea today. 108 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to be honest with that. It was 109 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: really interesting today because you know, we live in a 110 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: pretty benign environment in the South Pacific, but you know 111 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: up here in you know, you've got North Korea on 112 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 2: your border. And so I went to the DMZ this morning, 113 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: and if you think about it, you know, the Korean 114 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: War finished, but actually essentially a ceasefire was maintained or 115 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 2: through an armistice, and we've had peacekeeping troops here on 116 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: the ground. In fact, I've tripled the resources. Overcoming year 117 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: will happen as well. But essentially, as we were standing 118 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: there on the DMZAH balloon went up with rubbish bags 119 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: attached to it. And that's North Korea sending trash in 120 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: to South Korea, and they're weird. 121 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: Jesus is like stuff you do at school. 122 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of it's irrational and it doesn't make 123 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: a lot of sense. But what does make sense is 124 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: that you very clearly the message I've been trying to 125 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: communicate over the course of this year is that that security, 126 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 2: peace and stability relatively we've had on the Korean Peninsula, 127 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: rather than a hot war or hot conflict has meant 128 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: that South Korea has grown into the fourteenth largest economy 129 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 2: in the world. New Zealand has doubled our trade with 130 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: South Korea in the last nine years. And so you 131 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: cannot have economic prosperity without security and peace and stability. 132 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: And that's why I keep saying in twenty twenty four, 133 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: security and economic interest are inextricably linked. And that's why 134 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: you've got able to talk both of those conversations at 135 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: the same time. 136 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: What's up with Elon Musk's love affair with you? 137 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: I thought that one of my kids told me that, but. 138 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: I follows you on Twitter. Now did you see that? 139 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: Anyone who support us? Of us? That's great? So I 140 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: take support from anyone. But more importantly, I'm just focused 141 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: on the job and getting things done. 142 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: Listen, why don't you milk that for us? Like Elon Musk? 143 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he's about dodgy, but he's got heaps of money. 144 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: So well, I've got to do the business here in 145 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: South Korea, so we'll be focused on the trade, make 146 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: sure we grow New Zealand. That's what it's got to 147 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: be about. Trade trip, job done. 148 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: Trade trip to Elon's house next day Thank you very much, 149 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: Christopher appreciate to look after yourself as Christopher Lux and 150 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister who's over in South Korea at the moment. 151 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 152 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 153 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.