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Speaker 1: Jason p and Andrews Will both with us Monday Money

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Speaker 1: Money fellas Mike Andrew Peter Lester. You will have known

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Speaker 1: him will.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did. I got to know him obviously during

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Speaker 2: America's Cup time, especially more so here when it was

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Speaker 2: held on autund what three or four years ago. Great man,

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Speaker 2: great sailor, great sailing brain. But was able to put

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Speaker 2: that great sailing brain to use for the general public.

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Speaker 2: Always really good at explaining things in layman's terms, if

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Speaker 2: you like Mike's. So, yeah, what a great loss. Yeah

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Speaker 2: did you know Jason over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Only through interviewing him and having him on many times.

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Speaker 3: Mike never got the chance to meet Peter Lester. But

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Speaker 3: exactly what Sam said, I think his great strength, which

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Speaker 3: not all former athletes and sports people have when they

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Speaker 3: come across to broadcasting, as his ability to break it

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Speaker 3: all down to take the jargon out and there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of jargon and sailing as we know, and make

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Speaker 3: us all understand it. So yeah, a real loss, and

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Speaker 3: as I understand it, you know, was in great shape,

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Speaker 3: A real shock to everybody who found this news out

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Speaker 3: over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, seventies a bit makes you feel a bit mortal sav.

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Speaker 2: You'd always see him walking through the viaduct. Mike hanned

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Speaker 2: trim and in his jandles. He loved a good pair

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Speaker 2: of jandles. The least a name synonymous with sailing in

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Speaker 2: Lyttleton and Banks Peninsula. And he was a huge Rugby

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Speaker 2: found a huge Crusaders fan. So yeah, big, big loss.

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Speaker 1: Jason the Warriors. It's over so pardon no, it's over.

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Speaker 1: Do it's top eight, top four. I mean, do you

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Speaker 1: do either of you guys do the numbers in the sense?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think we'll win the three of the

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Speaker 1: last four. Let's say that we should win four or four.

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Speaker 1: But say we win three, we'll end up at thirty six.

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Speaker 1: That would that get us top four? I mean I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at the top four now, the Panthers on thirty one,

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Speaker 1: they're only a point above us, and we get an

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Speaker 2: The problem is you've got the Bronco Sharks, Dolphins worry,

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Speaker 2: isn't he and a couple of those teams are running

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Speaker 2: into real strong form.

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Speaker 3: I would say, though, the Panthers the Panthers, and I've

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Speaker 3: decided to be positive about this.

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Speaker 2: Mike.

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Speaker 3: The Panthers have the storm, the Raiders and the Bulldogs

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Speaker 3: over the next three weeks, so they play the other

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Speaker 3: three teams in the top four. They're only one point

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Speaker 3: ahead of the Warriors, the Panthers. They're in great form

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Speaker 3: nine in a row and they could easily win all

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Speaker 3: three of those games, but they have a tough run.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, the Warriors, though, they don't feel like a

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Speaker 3: top four side anymore do that's the main problem.

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Speaker 1: And if we're not top four, first of all, if

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Speaker 1: you're not top four, you don't win the competition.

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Speaker 2: That's that's right, yep.

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Speaker 1: And that's just a statement of fact. And even if look,

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Speaker 1: we're not good enough.

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Speaker 2: The injuries have been well known. But now I think

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Speaker 2: you know that heavy loss to the Bulldogs over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: some worrying, don't make don't look thirty points usually gets

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Speaker 2: you into the eight.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we'll be in the eighth. But that's not the

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Speaker 1: point of the eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, top we're top four and nothing as far

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Speaker 1: as I can say, I mean, that's that's I think ultimately, Jason,

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Speaker 1: what will take out of the season, isn't it where

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Speaker 1: if we end up top four, maybe win a playoff game,

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Speaker 1: and that's about it. You've got to be honest and

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Speaker 1: say that's a pretty decent season, all things being considered

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Speaker 1: with the other thirty, but apart from that, it's not

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Speaker 1: what it could have been, should have been.

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Speaker 3: No, that's thirteenth last season, Mike. So look at the

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Speaker 3: start of the season, say the Warriors fans, you're going

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Speaker 3: to make the eight, bite your handoff for it.

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Speaker 2: Take Yep, we'll take that. That's great.

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Speaker 3: But having lived in the top four since what rounds

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Speaker 3: six I think mid eighties when they entered the top

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Speaker 3: the top four haven't haven't been out of the top

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Speaker 3: four since. It is sort of petering out a little bit.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, look, I think now you aim for fifth

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Speaker 3: the one of the one of the teams in seventh.

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Speaker 2: Or eighth, but you're right outside of the top four.

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Speaker 3: I think Raiders, Storm, Bulldogs, pan As will be the

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Speaker 1: Them and deservedly so too.

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Speaker 2: And we've been saying it for a few weeks. Micer

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Speaker 2: is that you look at the top three or four

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Speaker 2: Broncos and the roosters into that especially, it's a different lea.

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Speaker 1: Differently the I've got a bit of pushback on this, sad,

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Speaker 1: but I just Richie Muwanga is so good that you

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Speaker 1: want to trapes around to Japan and say please come home,

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Speaker 1: and he does and you want to cut him a deal,

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Speaker 1: then why not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're have an issue with that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they should be able to come and go play,

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Speaker 1: should be able to do whatever they want. And if

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Speaker 1: they're available for the All Black, so that's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they resign a deal with injured r then

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Speaker 2: then they should be available eligible. I'd be very surprised

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Speaker 2: if he doesn't see game time in July or in

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Speaker 2: that Springbok two next year, Kevin. The injury rate we

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Speaker 2: have in rugby these days, super rugby, I'd be very

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Speaker 2: surprised if we don't see him midyear.

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Speaker 1: Don't you reckon though, Jason, You've got to allow these guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this whole sabbatical thing. I mean, but they've

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Speaker 1: sort of angst their way through what is just really

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Speaker 1: just professional era where people go and imply their trade

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Speaker 1: for the best deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Richie Mooronger, the difference is he's not on sabbatical.

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Speaker 3: He not like Jeordie and Ardie, are able to come

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Speaker 3: back and go straight back. And that's that's the reason

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Speaker 3: he isn't theoretically available to play for the All Blacks

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Speaker 3: until next October. But but you're right, Michae Man, this

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Speaker 3: is like it or not. This is the professional era.

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Speaker 3: Richie Moonger can play three years in Japan, come back

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Speaker 3: for an NPC and Super Rugby campaign, go to a

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Speaker 3: World Cup, win the World Cup, and then go back

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Speaker 3: to Japan for another three or four years after that.

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Speaker 2: He's played a blinder.

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Speaker 3: He has played an absolute blinder.

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Speaker 1: And if you're good enough, then good luck to you.

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Speaker 1: Is Luke Littler sailing staying with you?

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Speaker 2: Sam? Was that? Sorry?

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Speaker 1: Luke Littler? Fellow pastiaying with me?

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Speaker 2: What do I remind am?

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Speaker 1: I just you know, certain guys like a beer in

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Speaker 1: a pasty sort of hang out theginner.

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Speaker 2: No, he's not staying with me. I wouldn't be getting

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Speaker 2: much sleep probably.

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Speaker 1: He was, Well, here's here's my problem. What would you

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Speaker 1: do if you were in my shoes? So he so,

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Speaker 1: Chris Hopkins wouldn't get up for Ryan Bridge before six

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Speaker 1: o'clock to do an interviews. Now, that's bad enough. Luke

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Speaker 1: Littler won't get up and do interviews before ten in

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Speaker 1: the morning. I mean, what's that about? For God's son?

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Speaker 2: He's a finely tuned athlete.

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Speaker 1: No he's not. He's overweight and he tosses darts. It's

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Speaker 1: like I don't want to. I mean, what am I

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Speaker 1: supposed to do? And then come on? I mean ten o'clock.

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Speaker 1: That's pathetic.

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Speaker 2: When when you're nineteen, with the body of a sixty

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Speaker 2: year old, you need your sleep.

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Speaker 1: Do you reckon? And I've got a dart but have

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Speaker 1: you got a dartboard?

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Speaker 2: Jason, Yes, I have.

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Speaker 3: It's not up, but we have one.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's it doesn't count mine's up as yours up.

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Speaker 2: Andrew, yep.

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Speaker 1: Right, So when you throw, and do you measure back

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Speaker 1: I do too, so I can if if you ask

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Speaker 1: me to get a ten, any ten, not a double

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Speaker 1: or a triple, but just a ten. I within three darts,

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Speaker 1: I reckon, I could get a ten nine times out

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Speaker 2: Yes, so, because I don't know that darts or a

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Speaker 2: double ten?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't do a double or a triple, would

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Speaker 1: be more luck. But I could give you a ten

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Speaker 1: and I could get close to a double. If you

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Speaker 1: said do a double, I get close to a double.

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Speaker 1: But my point being this darts doesn't strike me as

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Speaker 1: being particularly complicated, and I reckon, And it's not physical,

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Speaker 1: and so I reckon. If I practice really hard, I

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Speaker 2: So it proves its repetition, isn't it. You'd have to

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Speaker 2: just train and train it.

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Speaker 1: It must be. You must be a robot. But also

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Speaker 1: the ability then it's all psychological to not freak out

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Speaker 2: And also you need to find a tiple that takes

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Speaker 1: Do you reckon? That's it. If you had just a

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Speaker 1: Double ten so much easier.

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Speaker 2: To My problem is that I throw my best darts

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Speaker 2: when there's no one around, okay, And.

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Speaker 1: Do you tell that story? Do you go? I was

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Speaker 1: really good, and you go, jeez, that was a good

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Speaker 2: Triple triple twenties all over the place, and then when

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Speaker 2: there's a crowd it just fall apart.

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Speaker 1: Well, I rest my case. That's that's the psychological. You've

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Speaker 1: got no metal have you just if you ever put

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Speaker 1: your board up, Jason, would you be able to hit it?

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Speaker 2: I think so?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. It's the checkouts of the thing,

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Speaker 3: aren't they. And you talk about the pressure. They've got

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Speaker 3: to finish up a double obviously, and they can, you know,

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Speaker 3: they can, you know, double tops or double six all

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Speaker 3: day long when there's no pressure on.

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Speaker 2: But you know when when they're up there and it's to.

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Speaker 3: Win a leg or to win a match. Sure, no,

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Speaker 3: I've seen those top guys miss you know, three darts

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Speaker 3: at double tops, So yeah, I think it's all about

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Speaker 3: the pressure. Probably like a lot of other sports, it

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Speaker 3: must be. Yeah, I think if your practiced you might

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Speaker 3: get quite good at it. A lot of guys are

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Speaker 3: having a go at it now, aren't they.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's accessible, that's what That's my point. The

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Speaker 1: point is there's no real restriction to you being able

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Speaker 1: to play it at a reasonable level, is there?

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Speaker 2: You just check check it up and you get well.

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Speaker 2: For the reason, we'll even have to play a lot

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Speaker 2: right to get to a reason like a national title? Aura,

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Speaker 2: are you.

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Speaker 1: Held because the guy is not there giving you the score?

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Speaker 1: Do you have to add it up in your head?

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Speaker 1: And therefore it takes so much longer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and minusing stuff as well, I can add, but minusing.

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Speaker 1: Of game from five oh one downs hard work.

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Speaker 2: But you let me. You know, you've in your sporting career,

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Speaker 2: you've mastered what were you like an NBA point guard

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Speaker 2: at one stage or should have been?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was good from the outside arc.

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Speaker 2: You're in the ATP top three thousand in the world

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Speaker 2: for tennis, was it? Yeah? I was.

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Speaker 1: I played for the region i'd play. Yeah, I've done

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Speaker 1: a lot of really good sport actually.

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Speaker 2: Gold and then and then you you you reach your

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Speaker 2: stuck to darts, I mean, look at Paul is it sorry? Snooker?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, snooker. Oh yeah, there's nothing holding me back on snooker.

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Speaker 1: I've got some very good shots going these days and stick.

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Speaker 2: any preseason games on a Friday afternoon, you'll actually never

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Speaker 1: Tell me both of you. NFL season, the the preseasons underway,

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Speaker 1: I can see none of it. It's none of it's

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Speaker 2: To I think. I think, I think so it's all

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Speaker 2: it always does well. But isn't it on NFL Game

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta buy a part. You gotta buy an

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Speaker 1: it's four hundred dollars, four hundred dollars on dezone for

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Speaker 3: You get every game, don't you get?

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Speaker 1: Well, of course, of course you didn't get every game,

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Speaker 1: But I mean four hundred dollars to watch a singular

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Speaker 2: The rest of the streaming Looking at a stat the

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Speaker 2: the twenties and thirties. The amount of money because everyone

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Speaker 2: the NBA ice hockey and baseball baseball and it hardly

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Speaker 1: Unreal. Yeah, I think I'm going to have to I

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Speaker 1: think I'm gonna have to pony up because I can't.

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Speaker 2: I might make an investment you can't help.

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Speaker 1: Come on in your coverage anyway. Nice to see you,

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Speaker 1: Nice to see you, guys. We catch up next week

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Speaker 1: Jason Py and Andrews seven.

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