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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Pine

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Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: James mcconey is here, Hello.

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Speaker 3: Mate, good a piney house things.

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Speaker 2: Very good.

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Speaker 4: Couple of good quarterfinals on the Bunnings MPC yesterday. Bay

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Speaker 4: of Plenty nineteen, Hawks Bay seventeen. So Bay of Plenty

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Speaker 4: are the real Bay?

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Speaker 2: Are they?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Apparently they are the real Bay? Sing it you

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Speaker 3: from the mountaintops from Mount Manga Nui. It is they

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Speaker 3: are the Bay and two cliffhangers really, but that one

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Speaker 3: there when you see how good Hawks Bay are in

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Speaker 3: terms of personnel, and obviously Harry Godfrey is scoring an

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Speaker 3: absolute worldy of a try. I saw your tweet saying

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Speaker 3: Lockerman for the number fifteen jersey for the Canes with

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Speaker 3: Reuben Love at ten. But what about a switcher Roud?

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Speaker 3: What about Godbury at ten where he played all of

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Speaker 3: schoolboy rugby for Wan and New Collegiate.

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Speaker 4: You're not the first person to suggest that, James, I

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Speaker 4: must say, after I did tweet that out, people see

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Speaker 4: you and I'll flip them around. Ruben Love obviously has

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Speaker 4: played mainly at fifteen. I think, in fact, almost exclusively

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Speaker 4: at fifteen for the Hurricanes. Yeah, I had heard that

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Speaker 4: Harry Godfrey was a fairly handy ten as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it could go that way. But it was

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Speaker 3: actually good to see the Steamers, you know, just get

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Speaker 3: it done and at home. I loved that boutique ground

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Speaker 3: at the Toad and that domain. But of course for me,

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Speaker 3: Piney big game was Tadanaki versus my Mulus and oh

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Speaker 3: my goodness, just the absolute game of two halves by

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Speaker 3: the way to show on Thursday nights on Sky Open

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Speaker 3: if you're interested. But it's just one of those ones

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Speaker 3: where I thought, Tardanaki, we're going to get that. They

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Speaker 3: just looked so strong in the second half and how

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Speaker 3: much it meant to them. Did you see Ricky rica

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Speaker 3: Telli joking back the tears in the postmatch interview. It's

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Speaker 3: awesome to see really that much feeling.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree. I totally agree.

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Speaker 4: And it was a yeah, weird old game was what

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Speaker 4: why I do? Fifteen mill ahead with about thirty minutes

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Speaker 4: to go, but then Tadannackey brought it back to what

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Speaker 4: fifteen fourteen? There was untill twenty to go. I actually

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Speaker 4: thought they were going to run over the top of

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Speaker 4: you guys, but no.

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Speaker 3: Well innovative player as well from Barnsey the coach down there,

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Speaker 3: Neil Barnes having two half backs on the field so

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Speaker 3: they could pick and go cricket then or you know,

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Speaker 3: recycled the ball fast. It was incredible stuff. I love

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Speaker 3: to see it. Bradley Slater, who looks like a traditional

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Speaker 3: There was just a lot of things happening that were

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Speaker 3: kind quite strange. But I thought maybe what you could

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Speaker 3: put it down to is Aaron Crude and the old

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Speaker 3: Master running the cutter really nicely and maybe showing Josh

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Speaker 3: Jacob how to sort of win a game against all odds,

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Speaker 3: you know, just controlling the game at number ten.

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Speaker 4: Now, do you stay with me on this analogy? Do

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Speaker 4: you think that Canterbury feel a bit like Nathan McCullum

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Speaker 4: now and that they were a good cricketer growing up,

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Speaker 4: or Nathan was and then their younger brother Brendan came

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Speaker 4: you think Canterbury feel that way about Tasman?

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Speaker 3: Oh good analogy? Yeah, well they must do. But now

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Speaker 3: the problem is when you're a city where you're the

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Speaker 3: home base for another team. I either Crusaders, they succeed

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Speaker 3: so much, you can it's the danger of just flying

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Speaker 3: under the raidar not actually being noticed, you know, Like

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Speaker 3: you could probably win an NPC and only get a

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Speaker 3: smattering of fans around the stadium. So that's probably just

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Speaker 3: living in the shadow of Razor's era with the Crusaders

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Speaker 3: hasn't helped them either. And you know what it's like

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Speaker 3: with Super Rugby, they just get players from wherever, you know,

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Speaker 3: like Raiser used to scour their landscape. Remember Fetukam or

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Speaker 3: Kame or Douglas. Yes it was a white cut or captain.

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Speaker 3: So this is what happens at Super Rugby. And I

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Speaker 3: think Tasman has really bolsted that Crusaders region and made

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Speaker 3: But it is tough for them because I think every

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Speaker 3: the benchmark for so long.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, other matters around are Black Ferns thirty nine to

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Speaker 4: been I think by their standards are fairly mediocre. WXV

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it has been tough for them, and I actually

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Speaker 3: they played really well. Just watch them against France just

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Speaker 3: means is that people care about them deeply. You've got

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Speaker 3: to wear that as a badge of honor, pony, because

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Speaker 3: you know what it's like when the callers are just

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Speaker 3: all talking about the All Blacks or the Black Caps,

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Speaker 3: but suddenly when people start to take notice and argue

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Speaker 3: you know, all they need is to have a really

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Speaker 3: good number eight who's been left out, and maybe for

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Speaker 3: the coach to be scrutinized just as much. And you're

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Speaker 4: I totally agree. It's engagement, isn't it. You know, it's

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Speaker 4: you know, not getting talked about is worse, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: You know, if people didn't really care, you know that

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Speaker 4: that's way worse. People are engaged I think in this team,

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Speaker 4: and that happened at the back end of what twenty

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Speaker 4: has continued and I think we will follow them with

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Speaker 4: great interest next year as they try to, you know,

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Speaker 4: try and win it again America's Cup. How are you

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Speaker 4: feeling about the America's Cup.

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling bullish about it. I'm enjoying the fact that

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Speaker 3: our boat looks quite fast, which is I remember, didn't

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Speaker 3: that happen in San Francisco? Remember that? I still I'm

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Speaker 3: by that.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was I mean, it has to be one

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Speaker 4: of the I guess the most I don't even know

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Speaker 4: what the right adjective, but yeah, like eight one ahead

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Speaker 4: and you lose nine to eight.

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Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. Yeah, outrageous is good.

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Speaker 4: I don't know the word choke necessarily because there's no there,

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Speaker 4: no way they were out there, you know, doing the

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Speaker 4: wrong things. It's just yeah, Jimmy Spittle just found a way,

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Speaker 4: found a way. Hey, Now next week. I just got

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Speaker 4: Saturday from Mount Smart when Auckland FC have their opening

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Speaker 4: game of the of the of their life against Brisbane.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to be along at this game?

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Speaker 3: Look, I can't make it. I'm working at a charity

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Speaker 3: following it all the way. I've been at Auckland their

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Speaker 3: see trainings, have been doing stories with the players, have

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Speaker 3: met Jim or May from Uruguay who is completely perplexed

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Speaker 3: to him, sorry, yemo, it's not going to get much

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Speaker 3: better for you. It's always four seasons in one day

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Speaker 3: for most of the year, so you cannot plan for anything.

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Speaker 3: But look, I've just named another player as well, a

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Speaker 3: these players, Pineer. I will be honest, Okay, I don't

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Speaker 3: signing really is a Japanese player called Htorki Sakai who

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Speaker 3: Germany and the last World Cup which is a massive boilover.

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Speaker 3: So this guy is a genuine star superstar played for Marseilles.

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Speaker 3: So look, they've done quite well and thoroughly enjoy being

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Speaker 3: to yellow fever, the fan base known as the Port.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing them in action. They've

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Speaker 4: I think they're going to sold the whole ground out,

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Speaker 4: but they've so they sold out the Port section fairly early.

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Speaker 4: What's their version of shirts off after eighty minutes going

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Speaker 4: to because they can't do the same thing? Have they

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Speaker 4: organically as they.

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Speaker 3: Say, I'm assuming it will be pants down, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think that has to be the opposite of the phoenix,

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Speaker 3: So we will see pants on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Pony, I think they haven't. Look, I've

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Speaker 3: been writing songs for them. They haven't actually asked me

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Speaker 3: straight away, you know, it's like can you clear the ball?

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Speaker 3: Pres Nando? You know, like Abba, you know he was

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Speaker 4: You're right, I'm absolutely on board with that sort of thing.

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Speaker 4: Look much as much as I much as I'm a

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Speaker 4: little bit hesitant to endorse anything ever have done, when

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Speaker 3: I know if you sing it in a tough way,

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Speaker 3: ABA can be tough. Okay, do it right like a gigser?

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Speaker 2: Why not? Why not? Hey? Just before you go, do

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Speaker 2: you keep eyes on Major League Baseball? I think it

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Speaker 3: It is getting interesting, and so is American collegiate football

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Speaker 3: alllays on America at the moment, because the NBA even

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Speaker 3: be amazing if it was, if it could be Actually

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure of the different leagues, but can you

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Speaker 3: have Yankees Dodges. I'm not sure tell me Pioney right now,

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Speaker 3: but there is shoh Tawany and Aaron Judge, who are

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Speaker 3: it hasn't been good for sport. And maybe that's a

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Speaker 3: whatever it is. But then I look population wise. The

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Speaker 3: billion and now it's eight billion, So there's no excuse

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Speaker 3: for sports. Is there really plenty of people out there?

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Speaker 2: Pony, They're everywhere you look.

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Speaker 4: Everywhere you look, there are people, well most places anyway.

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Speaker 2: James, enjoy your week. Let's chat again next Sunday.

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Speaker 3: All right, cheers, Poney, take care of mate.

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Speaker 2: You take care too, James. Behave yourself, Andy.

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Speaker 4: I wonder how Nando Pineka would feel about being aligned

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Speaker 4: to Fernando by Maybe he'll find out the port might

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Speaker 4: sing it to him. Looking forward to broadcasting live from

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