1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,707 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,587 --> 00:00:14,987 Speaker 2: Edb Angus is emailed. You might remember Angus has but 4 00:00:15,227 --> 00:00:17,587 Speaker 2: a friend of the show. He's he sort of phones 5 00:00:17,587 --> 00:00:21,027 Speaker 2: in from far flung places. A piney says, no, you're 6 00:00:21,027 --> 00:00:22,827 Speaker 2: not talking. He f one today. I'm just in the 7 00:00:22,907 --> 00:00:26,307 Speaker 2: Singapore Airlines Business Class lounge, sipping a beer, listening to 8 00:00:26,347 --> 00:00:29,347 Speaker 2: your show. We're heading to the Italian Formula one Grand Prix. 9 00:00:29,987 --> 00:00:32,747 Speaker 2: Great stuff, fingers, It's got a place we normally find you. 10 00:00:32,867 --> 00:00:37,547 Speaker 2: James mccony in the Singapore Airlines Business Class lounge. 11 00:00:38,267 --> 00:00:43,347 Speaker 3: Is it in Monza? I mean that's awesome. Yeah, so good, 12 00:00:43,747 --> 00:00:44,227 Speaker 3: so good. 13 00:00:44,387 --> 00:00:50,467 Speaker 2: Hey, let's talk some rugby Championship All Blacks Argentina. Historic 14 00:00:50,507 --> 00:00:52,107 Speaker 2: day for the Pumas. You've got to be happy for them, 15 00:00:52,107 --> 00:00:52,427 Speaker 2: don't you. 16 00:00:53,307 --> 00:00:55,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm a big Pumas fan actually, and in 17 00:00:55,987 --> 00:00:59,987 Speaker 3: fact my favorite player, Thomas Albert Alborno's got injured off 18 00:01:00,227 --> 00:01:03,347 Speaker 3: really early in the game, clearly broke his hand, playing 19 00:01:03,387 --> 00:01:05,907 Speaker 3: with tears in his eyes by the looks of things, 20 00:01:06,467 --> 00:01:10,507 Speaker 3: and they still won. So I actually think the way 21 00:01:10,547 --> 00:01:13,947 Speaker 3: that they played, though, was exceptional and wasn't a good 22 00:01:13,987 --> 00:01:17,267 Speaker 3: seeing a team from set face play run a strike 23 00:01:17,387 --> 00:01:21,867 Speaker 3: move with about three or five crazy wild passes wide 24 00:01:21,867 --> 00:01:24,947 Speaker 3: ones as well, you know, massive like I was, I 25 00:01:24,987 --> 00:01:27,307 Speaker 3: was just going, this is actually what I want to 26 00:01:27,347 --> 00:01:30,787 Speaker 3: see it instead of even though they can keep it 27 00:01:30,827 --> 00:01:34,387 Speaker 3: tight Argentina, they flung it around and I loved it. 28 00:01:35,627 --> 00:01:37,627 Speaker 2: I did. Two. Should we be worried about the All 29 00:01:37,627 --> 00:01:42,627 Speaker 2: Blacks with South Africa in coming in a fortnight Yeah? 30 00:01:42,707 --> 00:01:45,747 Speaker 3: Yeah, always. I think the South Africans have shown that 31 00:01:45,787 --> 00:01:48,827 Speaker 3: they can grind us down in a game, but I 32 00:01:48,827 --> 00:01:52,947 Speaker 3: think the All Blacks at full strength will be pretty formidable. 33 00:01:53,427 --> 00:01:55,867 Speaker 3: I just think that for this particular test, there were 34 00:01:55,867 --> 00:01:59,627 Speaker 3: a few hospital passes, and one was the selections. I 35 00:01:59,667 --> 00:02:02,987 Speaker 3: thought Simon Parker, you know, having to start at number 36 00:02:02,987 --> 00:02:05,467 Speaker 3: eight in his very first test when he's played mainly 37 00:02:05,547 --> 00:02:09,147 Speaker 3: number six but most of the year, and also hasn't 38 00:02:09,147 --> 00:02:12,467 Speaker 3: really played that much rugby recently, I thought that's a 39 00:02:12,507 --> 00:02:16,347 Speaker 3: really big ask for him. And also to see Josh Lord, 40 00:02:16,387 --> 00:02:18,987 Speaker 3: who I mean, I'm a Chiefs fan. I have hardly 41 00:02:19,027 --> 00:02:21,827 Speaker 3: seen Josh Lord play for the past three years. I 42 00:02:21,827 --> 00:02:25,147 Speaker 3: think he's played three games in twenty twenty three, three 43 00:02:25,187 --> 00:02:27,467 Speaker 3: games last year. I mean, sorry, six games in twenty 44 00:02:27,467 --> 00:02:30,187 Speaker 3: twenty three, six games last year and this year I'd 45 00:02:30,187 --> 00:02:33,867 Speaker 3: say be around about the same, if not less. And 46 00:02:33,907 --> 00:02:36,547 Speaker 3: in one of those games he started and went off 47 00:02:36,587 --> 00:02:39,587 Speaker 3: after ten minutes. So it's not exactly a really good 48 00:02:39,667 --> 00:02:42,507 Speaker 3: runway to play test rugby. When you see someone like 49 00:02:42,587 --> 00:02:46,707 Speaker 3: Sam Darry out there playing NPC, I mean I just 50 00:02:46,747 --> 00:02:50,587 Speaker 3: thought maybe that could they could look at something like that. 51 00:02:50,667 --> 00:02:52,227 Speaker 3: The selections, I'll. 52 00:02:52,027 --> 00:02:53,787 Speaker 2: Tell you the guy they need back is cam Roy 53 00:02:53,867 --> 00:02:58,787 Speaker 2: Goad They honestly, I just don't know. I think having 54 00:02:58,827 --> 00:03:01,187 Speaker 2: him back gives you a massive boost. I don't know 55 00:03:01,187 --> 00:03:03,547 Speaker 2: what the latest does. Jason Holland didn't know when we 56 00:03:03,547 --> 00:03:06,307 Speaker 2: spoke to him a couple of hours ago. I just 57 00:03:06,427 --> 00:03:08,667 Speaker 2: hope came Roy gotas foot for those games. 58 00:03:09,067 --> 00:03:12,027 Speaker 3: Well. Also, the other thing is number seven, okay, so 59 00:03:12,827 --> 00:03:14,827 Speaker 3: if he started the last two tests at number seven, 60 00:03:14,907 --> 00:03:16,867 Speaker 3: I thought we were talking about him last week. I 61 00:03:16,867 --> 00:03:19,027 Speaker 3: thought he did really well. Okay, if you wanted to 62 00:03:19,107 --> 00:03:21,867 Speaker 3: rest him and give other people a chance in their jersey, 63 00:03:21,867 --> 00:03:25,307 Speaker 3: you've obviously got a Hall of Famer in Ardie Savia there. 64 00:03:25,547 --> 00:03:27,947 Speaker 3: But what is Peter Larky doing if he's been selected? 65 00:03:27,987 --> 00:03:31,507 Speaker 3: I know Luke Jacobson is recovering from an injury, because 66 00:03:31,547 --> 00:03:33,867 Speaker 3: remember when they picked the squad, they had a few 67 00:03:33,907 --> 00:03:37,187 Speaker 3: guys who were who were that were covering for injuries. 68 00:03:37,587 --> 00:03:40,867 Speaker 3: But then like I played in almost an entire Test 69 00:03:40,867 --> 00:03:44,347 Speaker 3: against France last year in Paris and was exceptional. So 70 00:03:44,987 --> 00:03:46,707 Speaker 3: you know, there are guys who have got the track 71 00:03:46,827 --> 00:03:49,787 Speaker 3: record at test rugby who I think it's worth exploring 72 00:03:49,827 --> 00:03:52,427 Speaker 3: and going for big, tall timber. When you looked at 73 00:03:52,427 --> 00:03:56,787 Speaker 3: the way Chocobards played his timing at second five, I 74 00:03:56,787 --> 00:03:59,507 Speaker 3: mean he plays for Toulouse in France, he plays elite 75 00:03:59,587 --> 00:04:03,027 Speaker 3: rugby most of the time, and he was exceptional today. 76 00:04:03,067 --> 00:04:05,907 Speaker 3: And just noticing that we only had one loose forward 77 00:04:05,907 --> 00:04:07,707 Speaker 3: who you could say is a bit of a flyer 78 00:04:07,787 --> 00:04:11,107 Speaker 3: and that's already doing that kind of role on his own. 79 00:04:11,707 --> 00:04:14,867 Speaker 3: Just to me that the flow on effect was Argentina 80 00:04:14,867 --> 00:04:19,427 Speaker 3: has got uninterrupted ball. Where were our spoilers well, sitting 81 00:04:19,467 --> 00:04:20,667 Speaker 3: in blazers in the stand. 82 00:04:21,067 --> 00:04:24,827 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly I said before and it's not new, but 83 00:04:24,987 --> 00:04:27,827 Speaker 2: a big part of coaching is selection. So that twenty 84 00:04:27,827 --> 00:04:30,027 Speaker 2: three for South Africa at Eden Park is going to 85 00:04:30,027 --> 00:04:32,907 Speaker 2: be so fascinating to see what they do, what tweets 86 00:04:32,907 --> 00:04:35,827 Speaker 2: they make who they can bring back. It's yeah, it's 87 00:04:35,867 --> 00:04:41,267 Speaker 2: a very interesting proposition. Hey, Warriors, I was just. 88 00:04:41,187 --> 00:04:44,307 Speaker 3: Going to say one one last thing. Scott Barrett is 89 00:04:44,387 --> 00:04:47,067 Speaker 3: clearly fighting to get back in to form, and I 90 00:04:47,067 --> 00:04:49,227 Speaker 3: think we rely on him a little bit too much 91 00:04:49,267 --> 00:04:52,387 Speaker 3: to start and play and he can't be He's it's 92 00:04:52,387 --> 00:04:55,747 Speaker 3: impossible to give him time because Patrick Truple or two's injured. 93 00:04:56,067 --> 00:04:58,747 Speaker 3: But Scott Barrett at his best as absolute world class, 94 00:04:58,747 --> 00:05:00,907 Speaker 3: and he did some amazing things today. But you can 95 00:05:00,907 --> 00:05:03,387 Speaker 3: tell he's still fighting to get back into form and 96 00:05:03,427 --> 00:05:05,667 Speaker 3: he shouldn't have to do that in pivotal test matches, 97 00:05:05,667 --> 00:05:07,987 Speaker 3: if you know what I mean. But that's just you know, 98 00:05:08,067 --> 00:05:10,867 Speaker 3: it's like we have to even though he's still struggling 99 00:05:10,867 --> 00:05:11,907 Speaker 3: for that fitness and form. 100 00:05:12,227 --> 00:05:13,787 Speaker 2: Well, we're out of time now, aren't we. We're out 101 00:05:13,787 --> 00:05:15,787 Speaker 2: of time. There's no more games. Yeah, you know, so 102 00:05:16,507 --> 00:05:17,187 Speaker 2: he kind of. 103 00:05:17,307 --> 00:05:20,827 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't. 104 00:05:20,147 --> 00:05:22,547 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right, Hey, worry is one last night, So 105 00:05:22,627 --> 00:05:25,067 Speaker 2: the Gold Coast Titans are no longer a bogey team 106 00:05:25,107 --> 00:05:25,507 Speaker 2: for us. 107 00:05:27,027 --> 00:05:29,027 Speaker 3: I know, how good was that? But also, I mean 108 00:05:29,067 --> 00:05:30,907 Speaker 3: the story of the day, and I think your callers 109 00:05:30,907 --> 00:05:33,187 Speaker 3: have identified it really well. Was rugged to a vis 110 00:05:33,227 --> 00:05:37,707 Speaker 3: as seck so two hundred and forty five running meters 111 00:05:37,867 --> 00:05:41,547 Speaker 3: eighty six post contact meters. I mean, it's just exceptional 112 00:05:41,587 --> 00:05:45,027 Speaker 3: stuff from Roger. But I did running to him earlier 113 00:05:45,027 --> 00:05:46,707 Speaker 3: on in the year when he was in at Sky 114 00:05:47,347 --> 00:05:50,267 Speaker 3: and I asked him about where he wanted to play 115 00:05:50,307 --> 00:05:52,867 Speaker 3: and where he was happy to play, and he told 116 00:05:52,867 --> 00:05:54,387 Speaker 3: me that he said to where He'd just give me 117 00:05:54,387 --> 00:05:56,787 Speaker 3: a position and tell me that's where I'm going to play, 118 00:05:56,867 --> 00:05:58,947 Speaker 3: and I'll be happy and I will try and nail 119 00:05:58,987 --> 00:06:02,107 Speaker 3: that role. That's all he wanted. He wasn't buying into 120 00:06:02,147 --> 00:06:04,987 Speaker 3: any of that fullback chat at all. He just said, 121 00:06:05,027 --> 00:06:07,067 Speaker 3: tell me where you want to you want me to play, 122 00:06:07,187 --> 00:06:09,867 Speaker 3: And when he found out it was the wing, he said, sweet, 123 00:06:10,427 --> 00:06:12,587 Speaker 3: happy with that. And of course you hear him when 124 00:06:12,587 --> 00:06:14,907 Speaker 3: he was interviewed last night talking about the pride of 125 00:06:14,947 --> 00:06:18,707 Speaker 3: that left Edge with Chanelle Harris de Vitas and you 126 00:06:18,747 --> 00:06:21,267 Speaker 3: know Leker and others. You know just what they've done 127 00:06:21,307 --> 00:06:24,587 Speaker 3: all year. He loves being out there. And you look 128 00:06:24,627 --> 00:06:28,547 Speaker 3: at the stats he and Charles Nickel clocks that are 129 00:06:28,587 --> 00:06:30,827 Speaker 3: really sharing the fallback twoties. When you look at the 130 00:06:31,427 --> 00:06:34,947 Speaker 3: way they build the sets themselves, and Charms wasn't too 131 00:06:34,947 --> 00:06:37,227 Speaker 3: bad as well, with nearly two hundred meters last night 132 00:06:37,267 --> 00:06:40,387 Speaker 3: and seventy post contact meters. So those two guys in 133 00:06:40,387 --> 00:06:44,427 Speaker 3: our backfield are one reason why the Warriors and Warriors 134 00:06:44,467 --> 00:06:47,787 Speaker 3: fans can have some hope moving into the postseason. 135 00:06:48,187 --> 00:06:50,627 Speaker 2: I love that about Roger tui Vasishik. I love that 136 00:06:50,627 --> 00:06:52,987 Speaker 2: that even at his you know, at his stage of 137 00:06:53,027 --> 00:06:56,987 Speaker 2: his career, he's done everything. Magnificent player, just a generational 138 00:06:57,227 --> 00:06:59,187 Speaker 2: rugby league player, just says okay, will you tell me 139 00:06:59,227 --> 00:07:01,707 Speaker 2: where you want me to play and I'll perfect that role. 140 00:07:01,827 --> 00:07:03,947 Speaker 2: That's magnificent. What an attitude, man. 141 00:07:04,947 --> 00:07:07,347 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a it's incredible see and also, I 142 00:07:07,347 --> 00:07:09,227 Speaker 3: mean if you've seen him on League Lounge on Sky 143 00:07:09,347 --> 00:07:12,907 Speaker 3: he comes on with Sean Johnson speaking of such things. 144 00:07:12,907 --> 00:07:16,267 Speaker 3: Sean absolutely natural as a TV quite sickening for someone 145 00:07:16,307 --> 00:07:22,187 Speaker 3: like myself. But Roger is an incredible guest, really insightful, 146 00:07:22,227 --> 00:07:25,107 Speaker 3: loves to just give a little bit of information, educating 147 00:07:25,187 --> 00:07:28,827 Speaker 3: everybody along the way. And he's very fun as well, 148 00:07:28,987 --> 00:07:29,627 Speaker 3: lots of fun. 149 00:07:30,147 --> 00:07:32,987 Speaker 2: Love it. Hey, have you plotted the parade route for 150 00:07:33,067 --> 00:07:34,827 Speaker 2: the for the ran Furly Shield. 151 00:07:35,707 --> 00:07:38,827 Speaker 3: Well, I'm hoping it does come around my place at 152 00:07:38,867 --> 00:07:41,907 Speaker 3: Tiata Tu in west Auckland, but I haven't. I'm not 153 00:07:41,987 --> 00:07:45,387 Speaker 3: sure will. I'll be running my own operation out here. 154 00:07:45,827 --> 00:07:48,867 Speaker 3: I'll put some others on Poney and he'll be quite 155 00:07:48,947 --> 00:07:52,747 Speaker 3: confronting for some of the neighbors. But that shield victory. 156 00:07:53,027 --> 00:07:56,147 Speaker 3: The only thing wrong with the white cuto shorts. Did 157 00:07:56,147 --> 00:07:56,907 Speaker 3: you see those shorts? 158 00:07:57,187 --> 00:07:58,107 Speaker 2: What would they look like? 159 00:07:58,107 --> 00:07:58,507 Speaker 1: They've been? 160 00:07:58,587 --> 00:08:00,627 Speaker 2: They were dirty? What was going on with those? 161 00:08:01,147 --> 00:08:03,307 Speaker 3: Yeah? The dirty shorts now need to be put in 162 00:08:04,067 --> 00:08:07,947 Speaker 3: the Hamilton Museum along with lemasopol one that's kicking tea 163 00:08:08,027 --> 00:08:10,547 Speaker 3: because it failed him and it was lucky to get 164 00:08:10,587 --> 00:08:13,947 Speaker 3: that that penalty away, the ball slipping off the tee 165 00:08:13,987 --> 00:08:18,427 Speaker 3: and the countdown progressing like a NASA countdowns, like get 166 00:08:18,467 --> 00:08:21,507 Speaker 3: that kick away. But yeah, the shorts were terrible. I 167 00:08:21,507 --> 00:08:24,587 Speaker 3: think it was because of the clash of uniforms. They 168 00:08:24,587 --> 00:08:28,027 Speaker 3: were allowed to wear the tricolors of red, yellow and 169 00:08:28,067 --> 00:08:30,427 Speaker 3: black as long as they had different shorts, and they 170 00:08:30,547 --> 00:08:33,747 Speaker 3: chose dare I say, a sort of a brownie gray. 171 00:08:33,867 --> 00:08:38,547 Speaker 2: It was terrible, terrible color for shorts, absolutely terrible. Good 172 00:08:38,587 --> 00:08:40,107 Speaker 2: on you, mate, Yeah, it was like one of those 173 00:08:40,147 --> 00:08:42,707 Speaker 2: movies when you when the guy's diffusing a bomb as 174 00:08:42,787 --> 00:08:45,787 Speaker 2: the as the you know, the counter counts down to zero. 175 00:08:46,067 --> 00:08:48,267 Speaker 2: He just got the kick away Lema and won the 176 00:08:48,267 --> 00:08:50,347 Speaker 2: shield for White Cutter. Well, it's great chatting James, and 177 00:08:50,387 --> 00:08:52,027 Speaker 2: enjoy the rest of your Sunday mate. We'll do it 178 00:08:52,067 --> 00:08:52,827 Speaker 2: again next week. 179 00:08:53,507 --> 00:08:56,707 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 180 00:08:56,827 --> 00:09:00,227 Speaker 1: to news talks'd be weekends from midday, or follow the 181 00:09:00,267 --> 00:09:01,707 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.