1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy La Right now, as I was telling you, 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: wes Pac has set tougher climate targets for our dairy 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: farmers in New Zealand than it has for the Aussie counterparts. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: So they want to reduce the emissions of all the 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: dairy farms by ten percent. This is the ones they 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: finance by twenty thirty. So the Ossie farmers need to 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: get their emissions down to zero point eight five tons 8 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: of carbon per ton of milk, but Krewe farmers need 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: to get theirs down to zero point seventy five, which 10 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: is a lot lower. Richard McIntyre is the banking spokesperson 11 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: for Federated Farmers and with us. Now, hey Richard, Hey, Heather, 12 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: why are they doing this? 13 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: Oh look, it's a case of over each and double 14 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: standards unfortunately from the banks. Yeah. Look, you know, we 15 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: really do question why, exactly why they would be wanting 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: to do this. You know, what's the bank's place being 17 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 2: involved in setting emissions targets for anyone in all reality? 18 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: You know, as farmers, we've already got the government sitting 19 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: targets for us, and we've also got our processes and 20 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: meat companies sitting targets for us, So what's the bank's 21 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: place within this? It makes no sense. 22 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you on that, But what is 23 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: their argument for why they're going harder on key we 24 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: dairy farmers? Is it because they are saying it's a 25 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: ten percent cut for each and a ten percent cut 26 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: just lands there? Is that what it is? 27 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So I guess they're trying for the 28 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 2: same amount of reduction across both industries. But the fact 29 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: of the matter is we're so much more efficient than 30 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: the Australian dairy farmers are, and so we've already pulled 31 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: so many levers that there are to be pulled through 32 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: the efficiency gains that we've had, and it's a lot 33 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: harder for us to make these reductions. So it's really 34 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: just a case of double standards from the back. 35 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: Okay, have they explained this to you? 36 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: No, not very well. We're still waiting for a little 37 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: bit more detail as to exactly why they've done it 38 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: like this, how they expecting us to be able to 39 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: achieve that, and probably more importantly, exactly how they intend 40 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: to enforce it. You know, are they going to begin 41 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,639 Speaker 2: putting excessive pressure on farmers that are struggling to pull 42 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: enough leavers to meet their targets. Is it going to 43 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: put more stress on farming families? 44 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what's the most likely way of enforcement? Isn't 45 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: it to just pull the lone give. 46 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: The look exactly? You know, the Banking Inquiry shows that, 47 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: you know, farming families are under so much pressure from 48 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: banks at the moment due to various factors, and this 49 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: is yet another one that the banks are putting on 50 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: farmers which is really just very unfair. 51 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: Is the Banking Inquiry going to get into this? 52 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: I really hope so it's Sydney in our submission. You know, 53 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: I think all the discussion about CEO's salaries is really 54 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: just a sideshow. And you know, I really hope the 55 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: Banking Inquiry or the Select Committee, you know, focus on 56 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: issues like this so that we can dig down into it, 57 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 2: understand why, and really hold the banks to account around this, 58 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: because you know, it serves no benefit beyond you know 59 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: what virtue signaling. As far as I'm concerned, mate. 60 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm with you on this. Thank you very much. Richard McIntyre, 61 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: Federated Farmers Banking spokesperson. For more from Hither Duplessy Allen 62 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: Drive listen live to news talks it'd be from four 63 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio