1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: In the Brady a UK correspondents with US Evening. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 2: Indo, Hey, Heather, good evening to you. 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Do you reckon We're going to see criminal prosecutions in 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: the Greenfield tragedy. 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: Yes, eventually. Look, the families have been wanting this for 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: seven years. That's how long they've waited for the Public 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: Inquiry to report back. It is front page news absolutely 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: everywhere here and the report is scathing. I'm sure you've 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: covered it already, but you know it lays bare the 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: systemic failures, the lies, the greed of the cladding companies, 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: the construction companies, the failure of humanity really in the 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: local council and its leadership and London Fire Brigade, the 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: issues they had with leadership and advice given on the night. Basically, 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: all the Grenfell families have been so badly let down 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: they're putting their trust now in Keir Starmer, who has 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: promised them there will be justice. And I think the 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: big difference now is that the UK Prime Minister is 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: an ex prosecutor. He was head of the Crown Prosecution Service. 19 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: He knows what he's talking about, he knows what needs 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: to happen to see criminal prosecutions so it may take 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: two or three more years. But the key line from 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: the Metropolitan Police in London is that they are reading 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: that report sixteen hundred and ninety four pages, line by 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: line to identify where they can go with their investigation. 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: And who do you think would be most likely to 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: be prosecuted. 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: I think initially you're going to see perhaps corporate manslaughter 28 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: charges perhaps against some people. From what I'm hearing, the 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: police have a list of nineteen companies or organizations that 30 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: they're interested in and fifty eight individuals, so they know 31 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: who they're after, they know where they are, and they 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: know what they need to do. But the families cannot 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: be let down anymore. I mean I was there. I 34 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: mean never ever forget seeing Grenfell for the first time 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: the aftermath, to see something like that happen in a 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: city as wealthy as this, in a country as rich 37 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: as this, to see something as utterly disgraceful as what 38 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: happened at Grenfell, and it was all because of the 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: multiple flage failures. But them, I don't know how the 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: families have kept going, and I salute their resilience. 41 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: And I have been dying to talk to you about 42 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: this bast shelter since I spotted it yeast today, what 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: do you make. 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: Well? I spoke to a few politicians in Dublin overnight 45 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 2: and people are bewildered, very angry and just wondering who 46 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: on Earth signed off on this. So, for listeners who 47 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: perhaps haven't seen, I know you've had expensive bike shelters 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: in the past, six hundred thousand en Z dollars the 49 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: Irish government has spent on a bike rack for cycling. 50 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: Politicians now have a Google around Irish politicians. They're not 51 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: the fittest looking bunch, as you can imagine, expenses, nice bars, hotels, 52 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 2: Dublin lifestyle. They're never going to win the Tour de France. 53 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: Let's be frank here. And our government has decided to 54 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: spend in a cost of living crisis, in a housing 55 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: emergency where we don't have enough homes for our Irish people. 56 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: The government has spent six hundred thousand dollars on a 57 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: bike rack. I just cannot believe. It's not even made 58 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: of gold. 59 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: No, it's not even a good one, not even a 60 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: good one. No, it's not even got three walls, it's 61 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: only got one. It's basically a canopy. 62 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And from speaking to people yesterday. There's about 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: a dozen cyclists in the political community in government, so goalfigure. 64 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we just popped one up in Wellington for 65 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: five hundred and sixty thousand dollars. So you know, I'm starting, 66 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: do you know what, I'm starting to form a theory 67 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: that we are spirit animals on the other side of 68 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: the world, like quite capable of making stupid decisions, like 69 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: equally stupid decisions, you know what I mean. 70 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: I'm starting to think I'm in the wrong business. Bike 71 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: shelters is obviously the way forward by for gullible people. 72 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: I'm just honestly, I'm just so so angry where I'm from, 73 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: and from a small market town country town in the 74 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: southeast of Ireland called Enniscorthy and County Wexford. I guarantee 75 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: you if someone give me six hundred thousand dollars right now, 76 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: I reckon I could get three family homes, not a 77 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: word of a lie. I could get three families housed 78 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: for that in nice surroundings, in a nice part of 79 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: town with a little garden and a nice life. 80 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: That puts it in context. Hey, I see the oasis 81 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: have broken this silence finally and they're going to do 82 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: a couple more shows at Wimbley, and the shows are 83 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: going to be for people who missed out in the 84 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: ticket Master Tobacca. Are you going to go for these tickets? 85 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: Do you know whatever? I'm not. I'm kind of sick 86 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: of Oasis this week, everything that has gone on, the 87 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: lack of leadership, the lack of communication with the fans, 88 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: and as I said earlier in the week, you know, 89 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: working class people ripping off working class people. So I'm 90 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: going to take a step back from that. Good luck 91 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: to them. I wonder how they will distribute tickets, and 92 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: I'm starting to think. I spoke to my mother in 93 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: law the other day and she told me that she 94 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: has memories of queuing up in Ipswich Town in Suffolk 95 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: when she was a teenager to get tickets for the Beatles. 96 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 2: And she said it was a matter of getting there 97 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 2: late at night and camping on a street and getting there, 98 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: being in the queue first thing in the morning and 99 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: you've got tickets to see the Beatles. She did that twice. 100 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: And I'm starting to think, is that how we beat 101 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: the butts and the corporates that you know, tickets will 102 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: be on sale and they'll go on sale at seven 103 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: am and people can just queue up and I think 104 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: that solves the problem. 105 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, the old school way. Inda, thank you very much, appreciated, 106 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: look after yourself. 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