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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Subberby's International Realty,

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Speaker 2: I know something that I can't share obviously with you guys,

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Speaker 2: but probably most like most of the people know, is it?

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Speaker 2: Actually I'm a similar understanding with you guys. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen, so yeah, let's see.

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Speaker 3: But it's starting to move to India dominating everything because

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Speaker 3: they can afford to buy into it and purchase teams

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Speaker 3: as opposed to players. It's always great to be able

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Speaker 3: to see the English having to take a few good

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Speaker 3: looks at themselves in the mirrors at the moment after

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Speaker 3: getting flogged in two days.

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Speaker 4: Right on the sports tititle, that's this evening, we have

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Speaker 4: Niki Styra, sports journalist and Darcy water Grave sports talk host.

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Speaker 4: How are you too?

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Speaker 3: Hello? Are you one? Good?

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Speaker 1: Ay?

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Speaker 4: It is so lame Niki every time, very lame. Yea

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Speaker 4: dad jokes all day.

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Speaker 3: I'm a dad.

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Speaker 4: No, that's yeah, that's that's fine. Hey, what's going on

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Speaker 4: at New Zealand cricket? Darcy?

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Yeah, no one knows. It's chaos from

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Speaker 3: the looks of it. There's a lot of very unhappy

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Speaker 3: provincial people who don't believe that Scott weeningk who is

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Speaker 3: the CEO currently quite has a handle on what's going on.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't want to run too fast at something new

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Speaker 3: and fangle in the T twenty space. On the defensive

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Speaker 3: side of Scott ween Ink, I'm reasonably interested in someone

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Speaker 3: who chooses caution over throwing everything at a new event

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Speaker 3: straight away. I think that is the CEO of a

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Speaker 3: major organization like cricket. Part and parcel of your job

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Speaker 3: is to show caution, maybe slightly too much. But we've

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Speaker 3: seen other organizations climb into things like sill Elate, for example,

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if that's particularly.

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Speaker 4: Getting into it, but it sounds like he's on his

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Speaker 4: own here, Darcy. Is he going to lose his job

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Speaker 4: over this? So they try to get rid of him.

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Speaker 3: This room was around a week ago two we thought

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Speaker 3: in the last AGM this information out that he's been dropkicked.

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Speaker 3: Have you even got the support of all your organizations?

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Speaker 3: It's very very hard to keep on going now, don't

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Speaker 3: We're not on the weeds of this. We don't know

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Speaker 3: what the detail are because everyone's being very tight lipped

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Speaker 3: around who said what and where and why? But I

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Speaker 3: still look to a CEO, everyone's got to just take

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Speaker 3: a breath, and I'm sure the best interests of cricket

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Speaker 3: something it might be long term costly for the country.

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Speaker 4: So what it is, Nikki, is that everybody else is

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Speaker 4: loving the idea of this TEA twenty which seems to

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Speaker 4: be backed by Indian money are being set up here

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Speaker 4: in New Zealand in January, and he's not keen on it.

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Speaker 4: So where do youse it on it? Do you like

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Speaker 4: the idea of the T twenty setting up in New Zealand?

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Speaker 4: Would you prefer to have teams out us trying to

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Speaker 4: get our teams into the Big Bash in Australia.

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Speaker 5: I actually have quite a strong view on the seat.

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Speaker 5: There's a surprise Heather. Basically, look, look, I can understand

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Speaker 5: Scott wen and being a little bit concerned because the

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Speaker 5: setup of this league technically, you know, it's threatening New

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Speaker 5: Zealand Crickets control of the game in this country. Okay,

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Speaker 5: so New Zealand Cricket would have no say in how

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Speaker 5: it is run and they would to guard against that

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Speaker 5: and I guess you know that is fair enough, but

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Speaker 5: let's just take a little closer look at it. I mean,

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Speaker 5: if we went with this n Z twenty league, first

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Speaker 5: of all, it would keep a lot of the top

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Speaker 5: players here to ply their T twenty trade where currently

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Speaker 5: they are all running off shore and earning a lot

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Speaker 5: of money and we haven't even seen King Williamson this year.

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Speaker 5: Foreign ownership brings in money, it brings an investment, it

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Speaker 5: brings in professionalism. It would also help the development and

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Speaker 5: funding of the next wave of New Zealand players with

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Speaker 5: that level of you know, professionalism in the country. Here's

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Speaker 5: probably the reason why that the major unions like it

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Speaker 5: because twenty five percent of the league ownership would go

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Speaker 5: They can then spend their money on other areas of development.

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Speaker 5: So you know, it's been trialed in the West Indies,

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Speaker 5: a profit. So I guess it's a sort of a

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Speaker 5: double edged sword here. You know, you are taking on

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Speaker 3: It's a financial sugar effects, isn't it. And that's what

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Speaker 3: we're going to be worried about, Nikki. So when you

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Speaker 3: look at whether leenex right or wrong, I think just

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Speaker 3: New Zealand rugby and they're like, we want so well

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Speaker 3: because we get a whole lot of money and what

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Speaker 3: there's nothing left. So there's that so black.

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Speaker 5: That's not not you know, your whole domestic competition. I

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Speaker 5: think the other thing to look at is the alternative,

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Speaker 5: and the alternative is that New Zealand. But you know

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Speaker 5: enter a team into the Big Bash. Well that's only

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Speaker 5: a good idea when you don't have a strong domestic competition.

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Speaker 5: When the Warriors and the Phoenix and the Breakers all

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Speaker 4: Do we use increase that competition, know Nikki who watches it,

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Speaker 4: Yes we do.

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Speaker 5: But this technically, if we started this league, sorry if

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Speaker 5: we went into the Big Bash, it would absolutely ruin

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Speaker 5: it because all the best players would then want to

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Speaker 5: get diluted. So that's not the answer either, unless say

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Speaker 5: you could have say three New Zealand teams in a

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Speaker 4: I mean, is it not possible, actually, Darcy, that you

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Speaker 4: have to pick the lesser of the evils and there

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Speaker 4: are three evils and actually carrying on the way we

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Speaker 4: are with it, the status quote is not working either.

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Speaker 3: And just going back to you said four, Niki, was

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Speaker 3: the provincial unions over the All Blacks that wanted more

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Speaker 2: Bit Ah.

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Speaker 3: I think that what we've seen in New Zealand has

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Speaker 3: of players to get straight into international cricket even though

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Speaker 3: they've had a diet of provincial cricket and they've had

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Speaker 3: this the Super Smash that they've been involved in, and

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Speaker 3: it's actually worked out quite well, Nikki, because we've got

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Speaker 3: a lot of these players who are now they're getting

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Speaker 3: listen to Superman.

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Speaker 4: You mean sorry, Darcy, there was a question for you.

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Speaker 3: You mean, yeah, they're Super Smash. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think the only problem with that, Dars is that

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Speaker 5: when Sky get the rights back to the cricket not

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Speaker 5: this season, but next season, they are not televising the

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Speaker 5: Super Smash. Yeah, so that's not good. Well, there you go.

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Speaker 3: Who watches were setting their cheap seats and fire hot

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Speaker 3: takes of people. We don't have to make these decisions.

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Speaker 4: All right, we'll take a break, thankfully, we'll take a break.

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Speaker 4: Coming back very shortly of the sports huddles.

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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand South of E's

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Speaker 4: On the sports had on Nikistyrus Darcy water Grave. Nikki,

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Speaker 4: do you think the International Judo Federation is doing the

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Speaker 4: right thing letting the Russians back in with their flag

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Speaker 4: and their anthem and volshebang?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Look, look I do call me simplistic, but I still

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Speaker 5: feel that sport needs to remain neutral, independent and free

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Speaker 5: from political influence. And it just really saddens me when

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Speaker 5: I see it infiltrate the likes of the Olympics. Now,

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Speaker 5: you know, I know that this is just one thing,

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Speaker 5: but taking the flag away has sort of maybe accomplished

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Speaker 5: a few things, depending on which lends you looking through.

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Speaker 5: I guess it's sent a political signal and you know

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Speaker 5: it has mattered in that regard, but really a tool

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Speaker 5: to change the way that the Kremlin actually do their policy,

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Speaker 5: I would suggest it's been largely symbolic. And you know,

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Speaker 5: the other thing that really doesn't sit well with me

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Speaker 5: is why is the Ukraine Russia conflict any different to

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Speaker 5: the Israel Palestine conflict with regards to if you want

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Speaker 5: to infiltrate sport, why you're not imposing the same sanctions?

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Speaker 5: And then who would you and pose as would you

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Speaker 5: pos them on Palestine?

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Speaker 2: Mean?

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Speaker 5: What a mess? Just stay out of it.

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Speaker 4: I love that rule. I love that rule. Does he

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Speaker 4: have said it to you so many times? Politics? Sports

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Speaker 4: needs to stay out of politics.

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Speaker 3: It can't happen. Well, it doesn't happen, and totally you

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Speaker 3: look at it. Sport and politicians and twined they always

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Speaker 3: have been no as will be. I think it's a

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Speaker 3: very simplistic concept to say stay out, you can't do it.

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Speaker 3: And in a perfect world, I get it. I'll be

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Speaker 3: all over there. You know what I think about politics.

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Speaker 3: So that's why I don't do your show. I love it,

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Speaker 3: but unfortunately it is and these power games are played,

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Speaker 3: that and a relationship between international Judo and Putin and

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Speaker 3: to follow the money trail? What's actually happening here? Why

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Speaker 3: has he made that decision? I don't think it came

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Speaker 4: Judo I think he does, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He does.

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Speaker 4: He loves to know, I think so Nikky. He gets

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Speaker 4: gets us top off and then he wrestles me in.

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Speaker 3: And then he gets on a horse, and yeah, for

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Speaker 3: insessial judo, it's an interesting hill to die on. It's

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Speaker 3: one not I wouldn't choose. But look, it's their federation.

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Speaker 3: They can do what they will. I wonder what pushback

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Speaker 3: they'll get from this at all level where maybe Ukraine

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Speaker 3: and then it really.

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Speaker 4: Starts, well, what you want to do is fight this

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Speaker 4: is for the for the crimea bang. Listen, do you

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Speaker 4: have any theory for me saying as you're coming in

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Speaker 4: hot Nikki today on why it is that the F

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Speaker 4: one is dragging out the Liam Lawson confirmation that we

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Speaker 4: all know is going to happen. They make it this

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Speaker 4: so weird about this look.

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Speaker 5: I think they're just trying to concentrate on the Constructors' Championship.

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Speaker 5: Maybe they haven't made up their minds. Well, I know

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Speaker 5: to me, to me, it's obvious he's fighting for that

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Speaker 5: one seat and the Racing Bulls team. You know it's him.

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Speaker 5: It's a more Son oda and you know, I guess

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Speaker 5: on record you have to say that sort of Liam

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Speaker 5: holds a trump card but not taking anything for grant

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Speaker 5: and most word is not my area of expertise, but

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Speaker 4: Are they going to still suck at the ashes?

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Speaker 5: Then you can't just suddenly go oh we've had one

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Speaker 5: kind of has to stick with it, and Stokes is

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Speaker 5: you're damn right Brisbane under the lights with a pink

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Speaker 3: He's the cricket in God's punishing all those New Zealanders

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Speaker 4: How did did you read that passport you read? Did

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Speaker 4: you read the article about Jeff Lawson and witnessing David

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Speaker 3: I had a cricket team in christ and we used

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Speaker 3: fifty two boys, fifty two boys, let's get in there.

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Speaker 3: So I love that that story coming back and.

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Speaker 4: Producer and Snicky is lamenting the fact that we don't

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Speaker 5: Oh look, yeah, there's some goodies. But the problem with

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Speaker 3: Just a word on McCallum. There's a good story from

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Speaker 4: And look and he walked off the picture.

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Speaker 3: And so he's true to form.

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Speaker 4: YEP, at least he at least he's authentic. Hey guys,

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