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Speaker 1: Geez. Either it's called time and distance. Maybe it wasn't

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Speaker 1: on purpose, but if you think they couldn't time it

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Speaker 1: to drown out the hockey, you're as high as that

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Speaker 1: planeless Thank you, amos, appreciate it. Jason Pines sports stalk

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Speaker 1: coasters right here, right now to adjudicate on this. Piney, Hello, Heather,

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Speaker 1: I don't reckon it was deliberate, do you?

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Speaker 2: I honestly don't care. You know, do what you like?

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Speaker 1: How can you not care? It was one of the

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Speaker 1: most hilarious things that I've ever seen in a rugby game.

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Speaker 2: Why jet, a jet flying over the hockey? You're talking

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 1: And the pirate technics and then the stadium music that

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Speaker 1: and and the looks on the faces of the All

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Speaker 1: Blacks they were so gutted.

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Speaker 2: Do what you like? Honestly, it's called home. It's called

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Speaker 2: home advantage for a reason. Do what you're looking it.

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Speaker 1: Great, though, Piney, come on just for one second and

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Speaker 1: you go, that's actually quite funny.

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Speaker 2: I think I was making my coffee when the hucker

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Speaker 2: was on.

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Speaker 1: That's the most disrespectful thing I've ever heard. Why aren't

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Speaker 1: you sitting there and watching the whole thing from start

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Speaker 1: to finish.

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Speaker 2: I'm there from I'm there from I'm there from the

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Speaker 2: first whistle to the final whistle. I'm there for I'm

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Speaker 2: there for the eighty minutes. That's what I'm there. That's

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Speaker 2: that's the as. So I lend my analysis to what

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Speaker 2: happens in the game.

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Speaker 1: I cannot get upset about this loss because I really

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Speaker 1: feel like it was such a good performance from us.

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Speaker 1: We were the underdogs and we tried really hard and

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Speaker 1: we almost got there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Heather, come on, we're the All Blacks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, playing at Alice Park with the plane as this.

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Speaker 2: Where we are now that we're okay with a good

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Speaker 2: sixty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Dude, the coach just started. Give the guy a break.

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Speaker 1: He's got to be able to at least like this

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Speaker 1: and this. The squad sucks, you know, he's got to

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Speaker 1: try to pull them together.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the squad sucks. I think that I

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Speaker 2: think the starters were good yesterday. I thought our starting

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Speaker 2: fifteen was excellent. I thought they were for sixty five minutes,

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Speaker 2: we were very good.

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Speaker 1: To remind you what happened with Argentina. The squad is inconsistent.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you I'll put it like that.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I reckon we need to do.

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Speaker 2: I reckon we need to be less conservative with our

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Speaker 2: bench selections, and yeah, and just and reimagine what numbers

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Speaker 2: sixteen to twenty three are actually there for. I think

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Speaker 2: that was a huge part of yesterday was South Africa's

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Speaker 2: I think the bomb squad coming on. They made a

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Speaker 2: huge impact, way more impact than our guys did. So

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Speaker 2: I think we need We always seem to pick reserves

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Speaker 2: and I what if that guy gets injured, who's going

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Speaker 2: to come in and play for him in his place?

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Speaker 2: I know that's necessary, but why don't we instead pick

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Speaker 2: players who will make the biggest difference when they come on.

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Speaker 2: And I look at a guy like Boat and Barrett

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Speaker 2: right his best test of the year coming off the

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Speaker 2: bench had Eden park against England, basically changed the game

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Speaker 2: and won it for us. So do we need to say, okay, body,

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Speaker 2: I know you want to start, and there's still this

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Speaker 2: status around starting, but your best use in our team

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Speaker 2: at the moment is coming off the bench as being

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Speaker 2: an impact player.

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Speaker 1: Are you arguing you actually save some of your best players.

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Speaker 1: You don't start the best players, you actually save them

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Speaker 1: for impact?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what South Africa did with Malcolm Marx. He

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Speaker 2: is the best hooker in South Africa, probably one of

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Speaker 2: still one of the best in the world. He's wearing sixteen,

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Speaker 2: not two. So why don't you I got it to

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Speaker 2: poor Vartey for example. Good you know, no Patrick tuop

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Speaker 2: a lot at the moment. So Vitey starts with Scott Barrett.

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't Dowry start bring off the bench in the

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Speaker 2: last twenty five minutes to provide impact. We need to

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Speaker 2: reimagine how we do these things. I reckon the most

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Speaker 2: important jersey in the team now is twenty three, number

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Speaker 2: twenty three, and I reckon Bode and Barrett should wear it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's really interesting. I actually respect that. I think

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Speaker 1: you're onto something there. What about the try from the

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Speaker 1: South Africans that was apparently a knock on. I'm struggling

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Speaker 1: to get excited about this.

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Speaker 2: Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you insensed by it?

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Speaker 2: Not insensed? I had a lot of chat about it

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Speaker 2: on Weekend Sport yesterday. Obviously, look, it's not a try.

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Speaker 2: But the main thing is they didn't even have a

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Speaker 2: look at it. The TMO when they look at me, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they look in forensic detail at head high shots and

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Speaker 2: they try to find something wrong with a lot of tackles,

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Speaker 2: and yet they couldn't even take time off at the

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Speaker 2: very least. Heather, there's doubt, right, So TMO, so hey,

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Speaker 2: there's doubt about this, Just call time off. Just let's

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Speaker 2: hold our horses, let's sit back, have a look at it.

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Speaker 2: A few angleson point.

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Speaker 1: But then party, they didn't even look at the sea

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Speaker 1: Kalisi knock that Sam Kane gave them. So maybe they

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Speaker 1: just sucked at their jobs.

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Speaker 2: Was there a TMO there? Then? Was he off? Was

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Speaker 2: he not there? Was he driving? Was he the plane?

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Speaker 1: That's what he was doing? Piney, We've got to the

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Speaker 1: bottom of it. He thank you very much. At least

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Speaker 1: he was good at his timing on that one. Jason

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