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Speaker 1: Catherine Fields in France. Catherine morning to you, Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 1: How many risks have we got and how organized was

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Speaker 1: it and is it linked to Iran?

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is related to French authorities and now investigating

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Speaker 2: a suspect as there are suspected link to Iran. They

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Speaker 2: thwarted what they think was a bomb attack on a

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Speaker 2: property belonging to the Bank of America here in Paris

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. The reason that they say that they

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Speaker 2: think that it's a pro Iranian group linked to this

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Speaker 2: attack is because it bears a lot of the hallmarks

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Speaker 2: of earlier attacks, particularly in the Netherlands, also Indulgeum and

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Speaker 2: that attack just last week in London when some Jewish

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Speaker 2: ambulances were set alight. It is a concern because of

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Speaker 2: the way that the suspects were recruited to carry this out.

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Speaker 2: They were found on Space sorry Snapchat. They were offered

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Speaker 2: around a thousand New Zealand dollars to go plant this

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Speaker 2: device outside the Banks of America. They particularly targeted a

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Speaker 2: young immigrant seventeen years old, and that is what's got

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Speaker 2: the intelligence services and the anti terrorism police here particularly

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Speaker 2: concerned because it's possibly a group they've not heard about before,

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Speaker 2: and they're using social media in a way that they've

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Speaker 2: seen before that's very difficult for them to get a

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Speaker 2: handle on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see where it goes. The war, the other war,

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Speaker 1: the war that you presumably talk more about than we do.

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Speaker 1: This business of Zelensky and Ukraine, his move to the

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Speaker 1: Middle East, what's going on there.

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Speaker 2: Part of it is money. You might recall, minds that

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Speaker 2: the European Union is holding back on this ninety billion

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Speaker 2: euro funding for Ukraine, which Ukraine says they need to

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Speaker 2: get through the next couple of months. Also, you know

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Speaker 2: there's a bit of commerce involved. The Ukrainians know about drones,

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Speaker 2: they know about drone technology, and so President Zelenski just

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Speaker 2: came back from a tour of the golf. He's been

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Speaker 2: in Kata, Saudi Arabia, UAE selling them their technology. We

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Speaker 2: don't have exact details and what he was selling them,

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Speaker 2: but we do know that it was air defense systems,

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Speaker 2: maritime drones, electronic warfare, interception technology, that sort of stuff. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you recall these types of drones that are being

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Speaker 2: fired across the golf, that are landing and places in

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Speaker 2: countries in the golf, these are the same types of

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Speaker 2: drones that have been targeted at Ukraine. They are Iranian made,

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Speaker 2: They've been used by Russia. So even though quite a

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Speaker 2: lot get through, Ukraine has got the technology to be

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Speaker 2: able to deal with it. So Kiev needs to have

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Speaker 2: a business business deals that they want to set up

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Speaker 2: these strategic alliances. And so I think what we're looking

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Speaker 2: at is funding and exchange for technology.

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Speaker 1: How worried is Europe about oil and Russia and their

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Speaker 1: ability seemingly to work the global market at the moment

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Speaker 1: and bring in the cash which funds the war machine.

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Speaker 2: A lot of doubles speak going on about this at

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Speaker 2: the moment. They are concerned we've got, on the one hand,

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Speaker 2: us allowing more Russian oil onto the market. One of

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Speaker 2: the other interesting things that we're seeing is that a

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Speaker 2: lot of countries are trying to put pressure on the

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Speaker 2: Ukrainians to stop targeting Russia's energy infrastructure. You know, of course,

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Speaker 2: we've been seeing in the area around Saint Petersburg right

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Speaker 2: in the north up north of the Baltic we've seen

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Speaker 2: a lot of the Ukrainian drone attacks on those oil

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Speaker 2: installations up there. So they're saying, look, we actually quite

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Speaker 2: need Russia's oil. Of course, Zelenski is saying, well, we

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Speaker 2: will stop targeting Russian infrastructure as soon as they stopped

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Speaker 2: targeting Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the Spanish move overnight on the other

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Speaker 1: war and Iran, how much of an outlier is Spain

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Speaker 1: in the EU in terms of their attitude to America.

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Speaker 2: And then they're really in line with most of Europe

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the basic line, which is it's

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Speaker 2: an illegal war, unjust, and it really has strayed away

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Speaker 2: from its initial objectives. What was interesting though, was that

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Speaker 2: Spain has now blocked US warplanes from flying over its territory,

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Speaker 2: so essentially it's spanned. Any military aircraft involved in there

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Speaker 2: are more using its airspace, using its military bases. In

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Speaker 2: the past, they were allowing the US to use some

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Speaker 2: of the bases in Spain. They were also allowed to

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Speaker 2: use they had a naval presence in the south, but

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Speaker 2: it was actually a logistics hub for American operations in

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Speaker 2: Europe and the Mediterranean. But now it's been pretty firm.

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Speaker 2: The Defense Minister has said she told the US it

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Speaker 2: was not a sudden policy shift, and they just do

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Speaker 2: not agree with what Donald Trump is doing.

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Speaker 1: Always a pleasure Catherine Catherine Field in France for US

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