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Speaker 1: UK bound ron Little. Good morning mate, good morning. Before

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Speaker 1: we get to the dripful business and Lister Square, I

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Speaker 1: must congratulate you on the riots. When we talked to

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Speaker 1: you last week, you said the drizzle was going to come,

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Speaker 1: and when the drizzle arrives, all the weirdoes go home.

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Speaker 1: And sure enough that's that. Have we flushed through it?

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Speaker 1: They all turned up and court had they tell abioseed sentences?

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Speaker 1: Are they all in jail or what?

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Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, yeah. But the other thing which I mentioned

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Speaker 2: I think has happened as well, which is that the

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Speaker 2: football season began, they're all back on the terraces. You know.

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Speaker 2: It was it was a convocation of largely football hooligans

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Speaker 2: who were enjoying the hot weather and decided to go

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Speaker 2: out and have a fight with the old bill. And

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Speaker 2: let's all forget. Yes, they did terrorize some Muslim people

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Speaker 2: and some people who they thought we were too stupid

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Speaker 2: to realize that they weren't, but that their chief, their

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Speaker 2: chief enemy was the police. So you know, they find

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Speaker 2: themselves in Core forty three in Middlesborough, and a whole

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Speaker 2: bunch in Liverpool, more in Harleypool, more in Darlington, and

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Speaker 2: are getting lengthy sentences, which is giving fuel to what

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Speaker 2: we're now going to have. And this is going to

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Speaker 2: last a lot longer than the riots themselves, which is

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Speaker 2: the post riot battle of the chattering classes and the

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Speaker 2: politicians who caused it, Why it happened, Who's to blame?

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Speaker 2: And you know, one of the arguments is two tier policing.

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Speaker 2: Why is someone getting three years for nicking a policeman's

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Speaker 2: batten when in Black Lives Matter no one got anything

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Speaker 2: at all for destroying a statue and throwing it in

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Speaker 2: a river. It's very interesting and you see all these

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Speaker 2: accusations and counter accusations flying backwards and forwards, and you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously I objected to the riots themselves, but I objected

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Speaker 2: them on the principle that the organizers should have known

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Speaker 2: that we'd have been in for four months of count

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Speaker 2: on what you us speak called Twitter, Facebook and indeed

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Speaker 2: every bit of.

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Speaker 1: Social media exactly Lister Square, right. My understanding was that

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Speaker 1: the people who got stabbed and a living year on

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Speaker 1: their mum weren't known to the stabber. So you can't

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Speaker 1: go through Lister Square without taking your life in your hands. Now, reputationally,

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Speaker 1: this cannot be good for London which already had a

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Speaker 1: reputation for being a bit dodgy around knives.

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Speaker 2: I think that's right, and I think it's right as

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Speaker 2: well that you know, we've seen that Paris has suffered

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Speaker 2: a downstair in tourism that's so enormously popular because of

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Speaker 2: the problems which are associated with Paris and violence and

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Speaker 2: upheaval and bonds and so on. And yes, indeed it's

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Speaker 2: yet another stabbing, similar it would seem to the one

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Speaker 2: in Southport where where two people unknown to the stabber

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Speaker 2: were attacked by a bloke in Leicester Square and the

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Speaker 2: girl is in hospital, a little girl, and the mother

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Speaker 2: was attacked as well. And immediately, of course, exactly what

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Speaker 2: I was talking about earlier, the right came on and said,

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Speaker 2: look it's happened again. They're up to no good again,

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Speaker 2: all rather confusedly, because there is no evidence whatsoever that

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Speaker 2: the attacker was Muslim. There is a lot of evidence

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Speaker 2: that the man who stopped the attack and took the

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Speaker 2: knife off the guy was a bloke called Abdullah, who

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Speaker 2: I would bet my bottom dollar probably is a Muslim.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a very good point. I think he was Indian,

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Speaker 1: to say, James Redcliff by the way, as the name

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Speaker 1: you're know Manchester United, speaking of football not dominant. He

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Speaker 1: said he no longer feels safe in London. He wouldn't

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Speaker 1: wear a watch fear or alarmist.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think not worry your watch in London is

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Speaker 2: a very very sensible thing to do. Indeed, the major

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Speaker 2: crime in London, if you exclude lunatic stabbing people for

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Speaker 2: no reason whatsoever, is the snap theft, which is usually

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Speaker 2: done from mopets or bicycles, and usually done by young

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Speaker 2: men from ethnic minorities at late at night. If you

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Speaker 2: are stupid enough to walk through any part of London,

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Speaker 2: and I mean any part of London apart from maybe

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Speaker 2: Downing Street after nine o'clock at night or well before

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Speaker 2: then in the winter months where in fatcy jewelry or

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Speaker 2: holding a very expensive foam, then you are asking for trouble.

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Speaker 2: But I think in fairness, in fairness, mate, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think that's probably been true for a decade, maybe

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Speaker 2: two decades. And you know, I used to live in Brixton,

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Speaker 2: which was known for its riots, known for its crime,

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Speaker 2: known for its attacks and thefts, and I would certainly

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Speaker 2: I would a avoid walking through Brixton alone, very late

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Speaker 2: at night, and if I did so, I would be inconspicuous.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't wear anything flashy and I would keep to myself.

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Speaker 2: There has to be some notion of being sensible about

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Speaker 2: these things. I don't think you'd do any differently if

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Speaker 2: you were in New York or Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: What about the Olympics? Quick recap on that. Did you

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Speaker 1: do well or not.

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Speaker 2: Well? We finished behind the Australians, which which is an

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Speaker 2: appalling thing to happen and hasn't happened for some years,

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Speaker 2: And we have now vowed that at the next Olympics,

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Speaker 2: wherever they are presumably I can't remember whether awful Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles right, that we will get our own back. It

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Speaker 2: was a It was a pretty good performance by GB.

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Speaker 2: I think we came sixth or seventh, but that was

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Speaker 2: only because we didn't quite get enough golds, but we

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Speaker 2: got we got enough bronze medals and silver medals and

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Speaker 2: our overall medal hole put a third I think it was,

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Speaker 2: which is remarkable, you know, ahead of the French, which

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Speaker 2: which is I would say my crucial point to beat

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Speaker 2: the French, since we've seen over the course of these

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Speaker 2: Olympics an immense amount of rather petty and childish chardon

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Speaker 2: Freuder directed at the French A for their bizarre opening ceremony,

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Speaker 2: b for the fact that it dared to rain on them,

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Speaker 2: and see for the bad food which was served according

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Speaker 2: to the Brits in the Olympic village. And four for

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Speaker 2: a fairly muted closing ceremony which was eclipsed, of course

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Speaker 2: by the Americans taking over. So there's been a degree

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Speaker 2: of satisfaction here, even if we didn't come third in

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Speaker 2: the table as usual.

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Speaker 1: Good to catch up with you might see you thirsday.

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Speaker 1: Ron Little in the UK. For more from the Mic

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