Speaker 1: The Flavor podcast network.
Speaker 2: Island Roots Auckland Ways.
Speaker 3: This one's for the Brown brothers and sisters who want
Speaker 3: to be one with themselves, their culture, their identity, their roots.
Speaker 3: This is Island Roots Auckland Ways.
Speaker 1: Hey girl, welcome to Alan Roots Auckland Ways. We are
Speaker 1: back for another week.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, how are we? I'm really good? Thank you?
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm feeling good because we're wearing like the Bombers.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, it's kind of an easter egg into our
Speaker 3: guests this week is They have the incredible Jeffrey aka
Speaker 3: South Sides on the podcast. I'm wearing a one of
Speaker 3: the newer that is quite new recording from South Green
Speaker 3: with the purple glittering.
Speaker 1: One thing about you, you're gonna you're gonna be on
Speaker 1: those releases.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am, And I'm.
Speaker 2: Old.
Speaker 3: That's old, like a few years old, like our first
Speaker 3: year of UNI.
Speaker 1: But it's so sad.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh but how jeff has grown over these years you'll
Speaker 1: find out right now.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to another episode of Island Roots or Good Ways.
Speaker 3: Please welcome everyone's favorite creative and money religion, Jeffrey okays
Speaker 3: south Side, the south.
Speaker 2: Side, The South side, I think maybe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the elusive Jeffrey, because we don't.
Speaker 1: See south side. We see south side, we don't see Jeffrey.
Speaker 3: Yes, those portraits you posted of your south recently, that's
Speaker 3: like some of the only pictures of you on your page, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you always ask and I'm like, I'll just
Speaker 2: send you mind from like.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey is like Banksy? Is it Banksy?
Speaker 3: Yes, you don't really know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the person behind the as rich as Banks, you're
Speaker 1: the brown Banks.
Speaker 3: Oh how does that make you feel? Is the like
Speaker 3: not that you're like super anonymous, but as you not
Speaker 3: showing your face intentional or do you just.
Speaker 2: Know just insecure?
Speaker 1: You know what real?
Speaker 2: Your camera sho. I think that's like for a lot
Speaker 2: of topers.
Speaker 3: Let the works speak for itself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, nice.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how you stick away from Yeah,
Speaker 1: what kind of podcast? I think the mental health podcasts?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we like to the Light.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, Jiff and I used to work together at
Speaker 1: the university. Bro, those are some good ass times.
Speaker 2: There, some fun times, and I don't know, yeah, chapter
Speaker 2: it was just a fun five years five years because
Speaker 2: I studied three years at eighty and then I worked
Speaker 2: five years at eighty So I was you were there
Speaker 2: for eight Yeah, I was in the eighty dungeon man.
Speaker 2: I was a fun dungeon Dungeon.
Speaker 1: Girl, Jeffrey. Every episode we share what we love about home.
Speaker 1: So whenever home is to you, weever you feel most grounded,
Speaker 1: I might be somewhere that's not your physical home. What
Speaker 1: feels like home to you and what do you love
Speaker 1: about it will start our first And what I love
Speaker 1: about home this week is getting picked up by the girls. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's an experience. We went out the week just gone
Speaker 1: and I was doing the picking up, which is very
Speaker 1: weird to me. I'm not the passenger. I'm the passenger friend.
Speaker 1: So now I'm doing all the driving. But Alyssa, you
Speaker 1: are still the passenger friend permanently. Permanently. Yeah, are we
Speaker 1: really ruling out driving?
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: I have a license, Okay, not even a learners. I
Speaker 2: got a Hop cards.
Speaker 3: I got a Hop card, and I have a passport.
Speaker 3: Nice at least I can leave the country.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just the experience of getting picked up for a
Speaker 1: night out, but also getting ready. Like one of the
Speaker 1: girl's Dora she took she brought her digital camera and
Speaker 1: she just took a picture of my beard which has
Speaker 1: like freaking wine and other things and makeup, and like
Speaker 1: that's just such a getting ready with the girls girlhood.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: That's what I love about home this week? How about you, Alissa?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean this is not what I love about home,
Speaker 3: but getting ready for Layers, which we all went to
Speaker 3: just the week and just gone. Alex was like doing
Speaker 3: my hair in the mirror, and I was like, this
Speaker 3: is like the big siscill little system moment. I've always
Speaker 3: wanted a big sister to do my hair. And it
Speaker 3: made like it's so what you're saying, girl hook coded.
Speaker 3: But what I love about home. Jeffrey and I both
Speaker 3: throw a money dealer, so I had tried to like
Speaker 3: a money dealer based thing. And I think I want
Speaker 3: to say weymouth Foodber, Have you ever gone to my mouth?
Speaker 2: I just mean the last week.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm getting a one soup, six chicken nuggets, and
Speaker 3: a regular fries. That's what I get every time. So
Speaker 3: I'm going to say way Mouth Foodber, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Love it was good special, Yes, one soup, it's the best.
Speaker 1: I thought you're going to talk about a different but.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's an experience. But I think I
Speaker 2: did when eighty dollars on the slots. No responsible gambling.
Speaker 1: What we do condone is a one timele soup.
Speaker 3: Ye yeah.
Speaker 1: Nice home Home.
Speaker 2: I think at the moment it's the war between the bakeries.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I feel like, is there a war
Speaker 3: in your TikTok come?
Speaker 2: It's trying now, just like I don't know because.
Speaker 1: Speak your ship cake, because I.
Speaker 2: Think people just so like love the bakeries. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's all subjective at the end of the day. Like
Speaker 2: I like playing food anyway. If I'm making food that
Speaker 2: home is like playing and it doesn't taste good. But
Speaker 2: so when I'm eating out, like everything's usually nice. But
Speaker 2: I feel like Alfson's like pretty nice at the bakery.
Speaker 3: Alfson Bakery Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Their butter chicken pies are good.
Speaker 3: I love. That's the only thing I eat there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then everything else I don't know because I
Speaker 2: haven't tasted.
Speaker 3: But have you gone to clean and Bakery?
Speaker 2: I have gone to Clean Bakery.
Speaker 3: How do you write that?
Speaker 1: That's all right?
Speaker 2: You know, like people eat there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a bakery.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And apparently like Alfreson's old owners Avenue bakery.
Speaker 1: Yeah people say that eating but yeah they.
Speaker 2: Say they're lining up in the morning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, seeing the line. But I've definitely gone like I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, Oh you've been to TIFFs?
Speaker 3: Yeah? How is it nice?
Speaker 1: Any different from Alfriston?
Speaker 3: It's a bakery, right yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like how good can it be?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: With love and respect. But I am also not like
Speaker 3: the biggest advocate of like cleaned and bakery. I think
Speaker 3: because I'm not getting the right things.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think people just love their cream donuts.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't like cream, so I'm never getting a cream donut?
Speaker 2: Am I black tolerance? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh it's a lose lose for us, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I love cream donuts. I'll go and try.
Speaker 3: Cool for us so much? What do you look like?
Speaker 1: What do you look for in the pie? Like? What's
Speaker 1: the measure of a good pie?
Speaker 3: Just like anything that's not bland?
Speaker 2: I just I'm not even like a pie person. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll just give the chicken avocado sandwich. Oh nice, just
Speaker 2: because they're like four dollars fifty yeah, and they're pretty huge.
Speaker 3: Nice. I do like a chicken. I'm a big butter
Speaker 3: chicken pie. But I don't I don't really like pie,
Speaker 3: do you know, Baker? Actually do really love the one
Speaker 3: by all my train station, oh at the end of
Speaker 3: Russel Road. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think because it's nostalgia.
Speaker 2: Is that the one near the laundromat?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I really loved that one.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I literally could talk about this for a very long time.
Speaker 1: We have speak seven minutes, So.
Speaker 3: Sorry about that, Lisa.
Speaker 1: You could take it away so much.
Speaker 3: Geffree, I feel like you do one hundred thousand different things.
Speaker 3: Can you best describe what you get up to slash
Speaker 3: what you're my heir is as a creative? That's a
Speaker 3: good question the entire CV.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I like to say I'm fun employed at
Speaker 2: the moment.
Speaker 1: Love So it's.
Speaker 2: Just yeah, I get the opportunity to kind of do
Speaker 2: heaps of random stuff, which is real fun. I mean,
Speaker 2: not all of it pays, but I think to sum
Speaker 2: it up, I'm just a freelance photographer at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah that's me.
Speaker 3: What was your journey into photography?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: What was your light bulb? I love this, this is
Speaker 3: what I want to do moment.
Speaker 2: Well, school was like fun if I win?
Speaker 1: Can we ask what school you went to?
Speaker 2: I went to Alphaston College. Yeah, so I think at
Speaker 2: the time it was like the new like the newest
Speaker 2: public school. Yeah, and yeah, we have a logo looks
Speaker 2: like the EDDI dass like it actually does the diploma
Speaker 2: to get my YUI and then study graphic design, which
Speaker 2: naturally kind of want to do everything like take the photos,
Speaker 2: do the design. And then I think maybe in the
Speaker 2: last years of my UNI it was really kind of
Speaker 2: became a hobby. Then I was doing it for my friends,
Speaker 2: and then it kind of naturally moved into my friends
Speaker 2: having businesses and like kind of works that they were
Speaker 2: doing and then would bring me on. So it was
Speaker 2: really kind of time to build relationships, yeah, and then
Speaker 2: slowly doing more and more and then kind of yeah,
Speaker 2: then I kind of figured once I started making money
Speaker 2: off her that it was a viable job option and
Speaker 2: I could kind of make a little bit of money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this sounds like a very natural progression, was there, Like, like,
Speaker 1: was that the case or were you working towards being
Speaker 1: where you are right now? Well?
Speaker 2: I think yeah. I mean for a lot of people,
Speaker 2: at the end of UNI you kind of realize you
Speaker 2: hate your degree, Oh you never want to do it again.
Speaker 2: But I kind of done it and used my degree
Speaker 2: five years after when I was working at AT and
Speaker 2: then I just kind of got sick of it. And
Speaker 2: then I knew that I enjoyed doing photos, but it
Speaker 2: was kind of it took me a while to figure
Speaker 2: out how to make money from it, but suaded it
Speaker 2: was doing a lot of my personal projects, and yeah,
Speaker 2: it's kind of blossom from there.
Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite, like personal project that you've
Speaker 3: worked on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably my favorite project is the front Yard, so
Speaker 2: absolutely iconic. I feel like that was kind of the
Speaker 2: one thing that it was a catalyst for all of
Speaker 2: the work that I got after, Yeah, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 2: And I think, especially when you're getting jobs, when they
Speaker 2: reference your own work to kind of recreate is kind
Speaker 2: of the best position you want to be in as
Speaker 2: a photographer because then you're comfortable, you enjoy what you're doing,
Speaker 2: and then you're getting paid for it and sometimes quite well.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like when I was younger, because I
Speaker 3: was quite creative with acting and stuff, people like, oh,
Speaker 3: there's like no money in it, but I feel like
Speaker 3: if you are actually good at it, actually go quite far. Yeah,
Speaker 3: which is why I'm not acting. What was their journey
Speaker 3: into freelance, Like is it. Do you have moments where
Speaker 3: like I got no money?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like to my dad, can I pay my
Speaker 2: ward next month?
Speaker 3: Because people are either really good at paying invoices or
Speaker 3: sometimes when you're working with the companies that only pay
Speaker 3: on like a certain day of the month, and so
Speaker 3: it can be so frustrating, very uncertain, and.
Speaker 2: I think it's it's kind of you really have to
Speaker 2: have not the heart, but like the drive to be
Speaker 2: like that person. I'm still not that person, but but yeah,
Speaker 2: some people pay. Smaller organizations are really good sometimes because
Speaker 2: they just pay like the week of whatever. Some like
Speaker 2: council ones will pay thirty days after delivery of service.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that must be tricky some week when you're like,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to pay bond or like pictrol or
Speaker 1: things like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well only recently. Picture. I just got a car
Speaker 2: like this year and I got into a car crash.
Speaker 1: I saw that I wanted some message because I am
Speaker 1: a car crash victim but perpetrator. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Hey, like you were driving recently and Marena literally almost
Speaker 3: killed us. It was like did you see that car?
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm the best.
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to see ship.
Speaker 3: Are you okay?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 3: That's really awful.
Speaker 2: I rear ended someone sells my fault and then what
Speaker 2: was it busy?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Kind of was it? No, it was in green lane.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say I could excuse it if it was,
Speaker 3: because I feel like people in Ringwa are crazy when
Speaker 3: it comes to driving drivers. Just wait, this is not
Speaker 3: to do with driving.
Speaker 2: Ben.
Speaker 3: You recently put on your story something about like a
Speaker 3: dog a dog like, just resonde it with me, because
Speaker 3: money dealer is just filled with straight dogs and it's
Speaker 3: really scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've been trying to do my tin k steps. I
Speaker 2: love that, but you just can't walk around like south
Speaker 2: in general. The more you the dogs are out on
Speaker 2: their tin k steps as well. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just can't drive.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it's like a whole conspiracy to
Speaker 2: get people to buy gym membership.
Speaker 3: City for.
Speaker 1: Oh Man Jiff. Do you see yourself staying in freelance
Speaker 1: work for a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think at this point I gave myself a
Speaker 2: year to like figure it out, beautiful, and then if
Speaker 2: I really want to do I actually in you to
Speaker 2: a job the other week, and then I was like
Speaker 2: I don't want to come back like one you've left
Speaker 2: like corporate nine to five, like in an office, and
Speaker 2: you're creative, like you try your best to like not
Speaker 2: ever stay out of it. Yeah, not because there's anything
Speaker 2: wrong with it, but mostly because is the freedom to
Speaker 2: like do a job at like on a Thursday afternoon. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that'll pay you like well enough to like sustain you
Speaker 2: a little bit. But yeah, I think the freedom that
Speaker 2: freelancing gives me is probably the best pro in that situation.
Speaker 2: But the cons come with it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I think about your photography, you must have come
Speaker 1: and it's a conversation with so many people from various
Speaker 1: walks of life. It's one of your favorite parts of
Speaker 1: the job, connecting with people and like hearing their stories.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the main part of why why
Speaker 2: I enjoy doing photography, especially the kind of round that
Speaker 2: I do photography in. Yeah, the connecting with people so
Speaker 2: like the best part because you might have not known
Speaker 2: them like beforehand and you're just rocking up to their house.
Speaker 2: But like I think, especially as a specific photographer, it's
Speaker 2: like you kind of know how to navigate that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: taking off your shoes at the door, you know, like
Speaker 2: rereading them or like things around that nature I think
Speaker 2: have really helped me. But yeah, I think people are
Speaker 2: the best thing about the job.
Speaker 1: You know, what does your own family think about your
Speaker 1: creative career.
Speaker 2: They're like, why do you take betters of us?
Speaker 1: See did you go to someone family photos?
Speaker 2: They were, Yeah, yeah, I'm the designative family photographer now.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean my family they're real. I think
Speaker 2: there's quite a few of us that are freelancing. So
Speaker 2: nice a cousin, a videographer, So shout out to Carlin
Speaker 2: his heaps. But I think people like him have been
Speaker 2: like really good to have in the family. So there's
Speaker 2: different kind of pathways to like making money and the
Speaker 2: success in that as well. Yeah, yeah, but they're all good.
Speaker 2: They just are. He's asking why there's no portrait.
Speaker 3: Walls in the house not filled up.
Speaker 2: It's just out of my friend's art.
Speaker 3: If one of my favorite things that you've done is
Speaker 3: with love from South Cool. Yeah, I am lend it
Speaker 3: such a cool project. And am I right that it
Speaker 3: initially started as just like jumpers with the area code?
Speaker 2: Oh well it actually started at UNI.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, cool.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was kind of my final year project and
Speaker 2: it was I was doing. I think the purpose of
Speaker 2: it was like making postcards from South Aukland, so that's
Speaker 2: so cool. Making it a destination so kind of where
Speaker 2: to eat were the sharp So yeah, it was start
Speaker 2: off was that, and then after UNI kind of picked
Speaker 2: it up again in its area code crew next part.
Speaker 2: I sold like six hundred of them around the world somewhere,
Speaker 2: So it's kind of cool seeing that. I think some
Speaker 2: of my friends saw it in like Melbourne or in
Speaker 2: Australia and I'm like, oh cool, that's how powerful, like
Speaker 2: the connection is to home.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And my flatmate recently celebrated her birthday and her
Speaker 1: best mate got her a Creunick and conversation to me,
Speaker 1: my flatmate was like, man, I've always wanted one of these,
Speaker 1: Like this is such a dope gift. So for your
Speaker 1: products to be referenced in that way, it's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's really cool to see. And
Speaker 2: I think the simplicity of it, like seeing the numbers
Speaker 2: is really what community is about. Like yeah, and having
Speaker 2: you know, like seeing someone with a even a two
Speaker 2: seam five like threats and netmakeout two five MANGI like
Speaker 2: those are real cool to have as well. I think
Speaker 2: those things are like signals for people. They're like, well
Speaker 2: from the same place. Yeah, that's cool, And I think,
Speaker 2: well he need is like a nod and it's kind of.
Speaker 3: Like a mutual like yeah, so cool. It's kind of
Speaker 3: transitioning into like an online archive in some ways, Like
Speaker 3: what's kind of the motivation behind that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think yeah, I think we'd love some
Speaker 2: from South as if anything like a creative kind of archive.
Speaker 2: So a lot of photography. So I've been on the
Speaker 2: Auckland Libraries here its collection with site and it's so cool,
Speaker 2: like your scroll for ages, Yeah, you're just looking at
Speaker 2: images from the past on things, you know. Now there's
Speaker 2: a cool image of Mangi Bridge being built, like all
Speaker 2: the construction and I kind of skip pass all the
Speaker 2: war memorial stuff, but seeing like Pacific people and especially
Speaker 2: like people protesting issues that were protesting still today like
Speaker 2: nuclear and the Pacific people already doing it there, teachers strike.
Speaker 2: So it's really cool. Like and if you're ever like
Speaker 2: have the time to scroll on that site, might even
Speaker 2: find your family because school photos like school sports teams
Speaker 2: on the as well.
Speaker 1: Free y.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: One thing that I recently found because I'm doing a
Speaker 3: lot of research for the Coppa but that we're doing
Speaker 3: a Payton Great South around like the history of Great
Speaker 3: South Road and the building of Great South Road. But
Speaker 3: there's like a function where you can search what your
Speaker 3: street name means, so like you like what the background is.
Speaker 3: So there's like streets and money Dealers. I'm like, why
Speaker 3: the is that called arts? Like what does that? And
Speaker 3: it's like named after the developer who like made, I
Speaker 3: don't know, built the houses on the street. You know,
Speaker 3: like it's just cool stuff like that. And I feel
Speaker 3: like the photos and from South learning more about like
Speaker 3: your sense of place are so important to understanding like
Speaker 3: the history where you're from. They help you kind of
Speaker 3: build your identity around like these things. But my favorite
Speaker 3: thing is looking at like old pictures of money Dealer. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like shit, it's changed so much much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had like an open roof. Yeah it's like
Speaker 2: oh yeah, so if you look about like all the
Speaker 2: windows and went there, it was just kind of open sky,
Speaker 2: so almost like a shopping plaza. Yeah, kind of like
Speaker 2: maybe botany outside would be like but it was really cool.
Speaker 2: But then there's also further as like competitions of women
Speaker 2: like hanging washing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, what's that is?
Speaker 2: Like this is the world's fastest washing?
Speaker 3: Oh so bad.
Speaker 1: I think that game has been played at like baby shows.
Speaker 1: I've gone yeah and a.
Speaker 3: Baby it's really yeah, And Sophomore.
Speaker 1: Is still there?
Speaker 2: Girl?
Speaker 3: We I love Do you like South?
Speaker 2: I love South?
Speaker 1: We have a bonding.
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 1: UNSSA. Can't shut the fu up about.
Speaker 2: The I think it was rated like the bit Smaller
Speaker 2: New Zealand what yeah.
Speaker 3: By people who live in money.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was going to say, I think.
Speaker 3: My favorite thing is last time I went there. I
Speaker 3: was going for a run and then I was like,
Speaker 3: no stopping at Crackerjack. Why not? And I had my
Speaker 3: running based on looking like an idiot And this guy
Speaker 3: comes up to me and I was like, Hey, how
Speaker 3: much did you pay for your vest? And I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: it was really expensive, Like I don't want to say
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And he's like how much was it?
Speaker 3: And I was like oh. He was like, oh, price
Speaker 3: is not a not an issue to me. And I
Speaker 3: was like, so why are you Jack? Example, I told
Speaker 3: him how much. I was like, oh, this is how
Speaker 3: much it. He goes, Oh great, I'm gonna go back.
Speaker 3: I want to keep my weapons in it. And I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I make sure to run running this.
Speaker 3: I don't have any weapons is water, water and my
Speaker 3: ear pods, Like, please don't bother me, sir. It's the
Speaker 3: kind of you know, the high caliber of people sophomore.
Speaker 1: The best caliber, the caliber on the topic of the
Speaker 1: two SUCs, even what else do you love about money
Speaker 1: to I just love that.
Speaker 2: It's like people don't care truly, not that it's yeah,
Speaker 2: but like you can walk out and your hair is
Speaker 2: not even done. Driving today, I was like, oh, and
Speaker 2: then I looked at him. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: My here's so bad. And I was like, I'm just
Speaker 2: in real life. Yeah, I don't know. And you know,
Speaker 2: it's like the not the nicest looking place and there's
Speaker 2: always signs on the ground, but it just feels like
Speaker 2: home and you never want to be away from it
Speaker 2: too long. I was getting homesick, and yeah, it's just
Speaker 2: being I think the familiarity of everything is really nice
Speaker 2: and just the it's actually like real small competer like mango.
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, I would say money that
Speaker 1: was huge because you guys have got like sub suburbs,
Speaker 1: you know, what I mean, like the gardens.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't count like the gardens as money.
Speaker 2: If you've got to turn the left at the exit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's sha.
Speaker 3: What are the gardens like?
Speaker 1: What does the gardens.
Speaker 2: The gardens, botanic gardens, the park? Yeah, that's the gardens,
Speaker 2: Like that's all that side yet so not even money
Speaker 2: do well?
Speaker 3: Like geographically speaking, yes, but vibe wise, it's not really true.
Speaker 3: I would would you agree? I plead it would just
Speaker 3: check me out with like high school and people be like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, have from money and then be like go
Speaker 3: to the house. Cool, this is not reallyware.
Speaker 2: We don't have stairs.
Speaker 3: What do you mean he's not a dog back.
Speaker 1: I have a question for you guys. So would you
Speaker 1: consider MANGOI Bridge proud of Mangoty.
Speaker 3: No, that's MANGOI Bridge.
Speaker 2: Yeah they even changed the name.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, period, I see where from now there's the
Speaker 1: gardens like your Mangy the bridge Yeah yeah yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's nice to walk around.
Speaker 2: It is quite nice walk.
Speaker 1: You have to close us off. You work with a
Speaker 1: lot of young Pacific creatives and helping them get their
Speaker 1: start and find their passion and what they're good at.
Speaker 1: What would be your words of advice to anyone listening
Speaker 1: and right now who may not want to take up
Speaker 1: photography per se, but as wanting to delve into the
Speaker 1: creative side.
Speaker 2: I guess key piece of advice is just to start,
Speaker 2: regardless of like what equipment you have or what gear
Speaker 2: you have. I think it's all on the ideas. All
Speaker 2: the fantasy camera stuff is like extra and you don't
Speaker 2: really need it in the beginning journey. Like I didn't
Speaker 2: have a camera un till I was in Uni, so
Speaker 2: I didn't even take photography because I didn't have a camera.
Speaker 2: So it was kind of I wish I had figured
Speaker 2: it out but earlier. But I think, yeah, key things
Speaker 2: just to start. I think your lived experiences are the ideas,
Speaker 2: and that's the best part about who you are. You
Speaker 2: can always pull from that, pull different things, and that's
Speaker 2: the thing that you have, and that's your power, which
Speaker 2: I think is key for people hiring because they want
Speaker 2: Pacific and Moldy like people and their ideas and they're
Speaker 2: happily pay for it. So there's work out there. You
Speaker 2: just got to start.
Speaker 1: Actually one more Christian before Christian as well.
Speaker 3: I have it's the same one. Oh wait, I was
Speaker 3: just gonna say, like you saying that these people out
Speaker 3: there who actually want us. Have you ever experienced any
Speaker 3: pushback from people being like your stuff's too like Puss Speaker?
Speaker 2: N good because I think for myself, like everything's online,
Speaker 2: so when people approach me, they already have an understanding
Speaker 2: of who I am and when I capture, so it's
Speaker 2: always catered to my style or the work that I do.
Speaker 2: I think I told someone that I'll only do Pacific
Speaker 2: or South Aukland stuff, so there's the only stuff that
Speaker 2: help me up for which is great. But there should
Speaker 2: be more people like in the pool, yeah, to now
Speaker 2: take on those jobs.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I love that. My question was would you
Speaker 1: even leave the South Side?
Speaker 2: Oh? I think no. I think by the time I'll
Speaker 2: be able to afford a house, south Side would be
Speaker 2: central anyway. Yeah, yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: No. I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I think I've been asked like would you move to
Speaker 2: another country, like yeah, for the experience, like maybe the
Speaker 2: residency for a few months. I'll be traveling because my
Speaker 2: brother is a flight attendant. I have to pay my
Speaker 2: fee every time shopping and painful fire.
Speaker 1: So I was gonna say because one of my first
Speaker 1: I think you had this video that went viral and
Speaker 1: you're listening to they don't know in New York. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that was fair that.
Speaker 2: It was a good time. New York is probably my
Speaker 2: favorite place outside of I love that.
Speaker 1: What do you want to go to New York?
Speaker 3: Of course?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's because of my favorite song
Speaker 2: is at least cause you don't know my name? Oh great,
Speaker 2: Yes I don't know, but it's just that's New York
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, listening to that in New
Speaker 1: York experience.
Speaker 3: Wait, I have one last Christian. Do people even think
Speaker 3: your name is south Side? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They never know.
Speaker 2: Mind real, most of the time they don't know. They're like,
Speaker 2: are you south Side? Having it layers?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah?
Speaker 2: And then I was like, I always it's always kind
Speaker 2: of embarrassing, but I'm final with an album. It's almost
Speaker 2: kind of you like have your nickname or yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 2: people always like East south Side and like, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: actually very embarrassing to like, I cant believe said the
Speaker 2: south Side.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I can just imagine people emailing you be like cure,
Speaker 3: I hope this email finds you out, and you've.
Speaker 1: Been like, oh my gosh, before we are, before we
Speaker 1: move on. Oh no, let's move on.
Speaker 3: Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Do you want to explain the game?
Speaker 3: Okay, So everyone knows Jeffrey is famous for these pacifica portraits,
Speaker 3: these incredible portraits of Pacific families, primarily just outside there,
Speaker 3: like family homes, eh and taking portraits of the family
Speaker 3: altogether and just incredible. Started during COVID, right, yeah, COVID. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we decided we would channel out inner south side
Speaker 3: energy and take portraits of each other outside of our workplace,
Speaker 3: and we want you to judge them, please, Jeffrey, okay,
Speaker 3: and you have to pick which one is better. So
Speaker 3: there's like a lot of things like we've considered the framing.
Speaker 3: We've considered the lighting, the lighting, the way we're like sitting,
Speaker 3: and the composition, all these technical things I don't know
Speaker 3: actually anything about. But if we're thinking about phones, and
Speaker 3: we've taken pictures of each other, so it's not how
Speaker 3: good the model is, it's how good the photo is. Okay, Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, Alyssa's walked over to kay. Okay, how like do
Speaker 2: you want me to judge it? What do you want
Speaker 2: me to go by? One?
Speaker 3: Categories. We'll judge by lighting, yeah, framing, yeah, and then
Speaker 3: like what are the things you consider when you're.
Speaker 2: Like all those things?
Speaker 3: All those things okay, and then maybe like best.
Speaker 2: Overall Okay, okay, maybe I'll pick what I like about
Speaker 2: each one, and I.
Speaker 1: Picked the best one nice Okay, yeah, okay, I feel
Speaker 1: like he's got a Simon kel no, no, noo.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll start with lessens one. Yeah, model one out
Speaker 2: of ten, that's good. I think I really like symmetry,
Speaker 2: so I think having Mariner in the sensor is like
Speaker 2: really like kind of my style and research research. And
Speaker 2: I think you've used like the background elements as like
Speaker 2: a framing element, so that's real cool. And then Mariner's one,
Speaker 2: Oh it's great, great, it's great. Disappears okay, cool, and
Speaker 2: Mariners one. The lighting is really good, like overcast is
Speaker 2: really good for even lighting on your face. If you
Speaker 2: ever wonder why these bags under your eyes because the suns.
Speaker 3: Of you that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the how close you are, but I
Speaker 2: can tell you're tour because you're up here like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate like that.
Speaker 2: And yeah, the background elements are cool. You can see
Speaker 2: Melissa's body like shape really well against the other background elements.
Speaker 2: So I think the best photo, it's actually pretty close.
Speaker 2: I think there's things in here that are changing both,
Speaker 2: but I think maybe oh yeah, oh no, that's.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, you it's actually pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think if Marina was wearing something a bit lighter
Speaker 2: than you could separate the background.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Otherwise, yeah, maybe just a little bit closer period.
Speaker 1: But your one's all good. The lighting is good, Okay.
Speaker 2: On the story, I think maybe just more space on
Speaker 2: the bottom.
Speaker 1: Yes, and you're too tall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to go to the eye level.
Speaker 1: That's what I always forget. And then Alissa like an
Speaker 1: eye level bit unless like the photos and I've got
Speaker 1: this my child.
Speaker 2: That's so good.
Speaker 1: You always eat with your photos of me too. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: time to go now.
Speaker 3: Indicated Jiffrey, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: We had so much fun.
Speaker 1: Honestly, the man, if you need some photos, if you
Speaker 1: have heaps of money, money.
Speaker 3: It's like four Cluster, you're gonna pay.
Speaker 2: On time you wants to pay on the day before.
Speaker 1: No text, and thank you for joining us and Akland
Speaker 1: ways don't forget every other day reels up on the
Speaker 1: I Glans Auckland waits.
Speaker 3: And also on.
Speaker 1: Happened.
Speaker 3: We shall see you guys there, okay, period Bye