WEBVTT - EP 35 - Geoffery Matautia 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:03.560 The Flavor podcast network. 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:06.320 Island Roots Auckland Ways. 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:08.959 This one's for the Brown brothers and sisters who want 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.640 to be one with themselves, their culture, their identity, their roots. 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:16.520 This is Island Roots Auckland Ways. 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.919 Hey girl, welcome to Alan Roots Auckland Ways. We are 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:25.720 back for another week. 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:29.360 Hey, hey, how are we? I'm really good? Thank you? 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:29.800 How are you? 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:32.960 I'm good. I'm feeling good because we're wearing like the Bombers. 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:37.360 Yes, well, it's kind of an easter egg into our 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:41.159 guests this week is They have the incredible Jeffrey aka 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.519 South Sides on the podcast. I'm wearing a one of 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:49.280 the newer that is quite new recording from South Green 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:52.159 with the purple glittering. 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:54.400 One thing about you, you're gonna you're gonna be on 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:55.240 those releases. 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:57.880 Yeah, I am, And I'm. 0:00:59.400 --> 0:00:59.720 Old. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.120 That's old, like a few years old, like our first 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:03.680 year of UNI. 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:04.800 But it's so sad. 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:05.959 That's crazy. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:10.520 Oh but how jeff has grown over these years you'll 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:11.560 find out right now. 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:16.920 Welcome back to another episode of Island Roots or Good Ways. 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:20.880 Please welcome everyone's favorite creative and money religion, Jeffrey okays 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:25.440 south Side, the south. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.199 Side, The South side, I think maybe. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.720 Yeah, the elusive Jeffrey, because we don't. 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:35.160 See south side. We see south side, we don't see Jeffrey. 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.360 Yes, those portraits you posted of your south recently, that's 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.160 like some of the only pictures of you on your page, right. 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.960 Yeah, because you always ask and I'm like, I'll just 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:45.160 send you mind from like. 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.280 Jeffrey is like Banksy? Is it Banksy? 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.080 Yes, you don't really know. 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:57.080 Yeah, the person behind the as rich as Banks, you're 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:57.840 the brown Banks. 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:09.320 Oh how does that make you feel? Is the like 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.160 not that you're like super anonymous, but as you not 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.120 showing your face intentional or do you just. 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:15.440 Know just insecure? 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:18.480 You know what real? 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:23.840 Your camera sho. I think that's like for a lot 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:25.400 of topers. 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:28.200 Let the works speak for itself. 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:29.880 Yeah, yeah, nice. 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:35.359 Well, I don't know how you stick away from Yeah, 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:39.960 what kind of podcast? I think the mental health podcasts? 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.440 Yeah, we like to the Light. 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:49.760 Oh gosh, Jiff and I used to work together at 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.720 the university. Bro, those are some good ass times. 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:56.919 There, some fun times, and I don't know, yeah, chapter 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:01.080 it was just a fun five years five years because 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.240 I studied three years at eighty and then I worked 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.600 five years at eighty So I was you were there 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.880 for eight Yeah, I was in the eighty dungeon man. 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.320 I was a fun dungeon Dungeon. 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:19.519 Girl, Jeffrey. Every episode we share what we love about home. 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.920 So whenever home is to you, weever you feel most grounded, 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.959 I might be somewhere that's not your physical home. What 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:27.360 feels like home to you and what do you love 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.560 about it will start our first And what I love 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:34.440 about home this week is getting picked up by the girls. Oh, 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:39.080 it's an experience. We went out the week just gone 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.480 and I was doing the picking up, which is very 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:46.160 weird to me. I'm not the passenger. I'm the passenger friend. 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:49.560 So now I'm doing all the driving. But Alyssa, you 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:53.400 are still the passenger friend permanently. Permanently. Yeah, are we 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.560 really ruling out driving? 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:56.360 I think. 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:04.440 I have a license, Okay, not even a learners. I 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:05.160 got a Hop cards. 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.160 I got a Hop card, and I have a passport. 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.280 Nice at least I can leave the country. 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:13.320 Uh. 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:17.320 Yeah, just the experience of getting picked up for a 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.360 night out, but also getting ready. Like one of the 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.599 girl's Dora she took she brought her digital camera and 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.039 she just took a picture of my beard which has 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:31.360 like freaking wine and other things and makeup, and like 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.279 that's just such a getting ready with the girls girlhood. 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:35.320 I love it. 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.279 That's what I love about home this week? How about you, Alissa? 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.800 Well, I mean this is not what I love about home, 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.000 but getting ready for Layers, which we all went to 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.599 just the week and just gone. Alex was like doing 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:47.760 my hair in the mirror, and I was like, this 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:49.799 is like the big siscill little system moment. I've always 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.080 wanted a big sister to do my hair. And it 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.559 made like it's so what you're saying, girl hook coded. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.000 But what I love about home. Jeffrey and I both 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.359 throw a money dealer, so I had tried to like 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.880 a money dealer based thing. And I think I want 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.000 to say weymouth Foodber, Have you ever gone to my mouth? 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:07.599 I just mean the last week. 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:12.719 Yes, I'm getting a one soup, six chicken nuggets, and 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.400 a regular fries. That's what I get every time. So 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.320 I'm going to say way Mouth Foodber, Yeah, I. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:24.400 Love it was good special, Yes, one soup, it's the best. 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:28.520 I thought you're going to talk about a different but. 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.479 I don't think there's an experience. But I think I 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:42.360 did when eighty dollars on the slots. No responsible gambling. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.599 What we do condone is a one timele soup. 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:46.760 Ye yeah. 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.279 Nice home Home. 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:56.440 I think at the moment it's the war between the bakeries. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.240 Oh my gosh, I feel like, is there a war 0:05:59.279 --> 0:05:59.960 in your TikTok come? 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.800 It's trying now, just like I don't know because. 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.680 Speak your ship cake, because I. 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:10.880 Think people just so like love the bakeries. Yeah, I mean, 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.080 it's all subjective at the end of the day. Like 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.960 I like playing food anyway. If I'm making food that 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.200 home is like playing and it doesn't taste good. But 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.400 so when I'm eating out, like everything's usually nice. But 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.839 I feel like Alfson's like pretty nice at the bakery. 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.599 Alfson Bakery Yeah yeah, yeah. 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:30.800 Their butter chicken pies are good. 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:32.560 I love. That's the only thing I eat there. 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:34.839 Yeah, and then everything else I don't know because I 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:35.440 haven't tasted. 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.200 But have you gone to clean and Bakery? 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:38.640 I have gone to Clean Bakery. 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:39.599 How do you write that? 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:40.239 That's all right? 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:42.920 You know, like people eat there? 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.039 Yeah, and it's a bakery. 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:52.720 Yeah yeah. And apparently like Alfreson's old owners Avenue bakery. 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:56.720 Yeah people say that eating but yeah they. 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:58.120 Say they're lining up in the morning. 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:02.080 Yeah, seeing the line. But I've definitely gone like I don't. 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:03.240 Know, Oh you've been to TIFFs? 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.000 Yeah? How is it nice? 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:07.520 Any different from Alfriston? 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.040 It's a bakery, right yeah? 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:10.600 Yeah? 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.240 Like how good can it be? 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:13.080 Yeah? Yeah? 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.440 With love and respect. But I am also not like 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.200 the biggest advocate of like cleaned and bakery. I think 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:20.960 because I'm not getting the right things. 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.800 Yeah. I think people just love their cream donuts. 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:24.240 Yeah. 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.320 I don't like cream, so I'm never getting a cream donut? 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.120 Am I black tolerance? Yeah? 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.240 Oh it's a lose lose for us, isn't it. 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.440 I love cream donuts. I'll go and try. 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.200 Cool for us so much? What do you look like? 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.320 What do you look for in the pie? Like? What's 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:40.440 the measure of a good pie? 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.040 Just like anything that's not bland? 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.040 I just I'm not even like a pie person. Yeah, 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:50.640 I'll just give the chicken avocado sandwich. Oh nice, just 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:55.280 because they're like four dollars fifty yeah, and they're pretty huge. 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.160 Nice. I do like a chicken. I'm a big butter 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.000 chicken pie. But I don't I don't really like pie, 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:02.880 do you know, Baker? Actually do really love the one 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.960 by all my train station, oh at the end of 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.520 Russel Road. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think because it's nostalgia. 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.400 Is that the one near the laundromat? 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:11.880 Correct? 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:12.200 Yeah? 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:13.920 Yeah, yeah, I really loved that one. 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:14.560 Wow. 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.160 I literally could talk about this for a very long time. 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.200 We have speak seven minutes, So. 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:25.239 Sorry about that, Lisa. 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.080 You could take it away so much. 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:31.080 Geffree, I feel like you do one hundred thousand different things. 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.160 Can you best describe what you get up to slash 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.360 what you're my heir is as a creative? That's a 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.480 good question the entire CV. 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.559 Yeah. Well, I like to say I'm fun employed at 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:44.000 the moment. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.000 Love So it's. 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:47.760 Just yeah, I get the opportunity to kind of do 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:51.839 heaps of random stuff, which is real fun. I mean, 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.640 not all of it pays, but I think to sum 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:59.400 it up, I'm just a freelance photographer at this point. Yeah, 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:00.840 so yeah that's me. 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:02.920 What was your journey into photography? 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:03.160 Like? 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.400 What was your light bulb? I love this, this is 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.000 what I want to do moment. 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:13.520 Well, school was like fun if I win? 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.160 Can we ask what school you went to? 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:21.400 I went to Alphaston College. Yeah, so I think at 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.880 the time it was like the new like the newest 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:28.080 public school. Yeah, and yeah, we have a logo looks 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:33.080 like the EDDI dass like it actually does the diploma 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:36.400 to get my YUI and then study graphic design, which 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.959 naturally kind of want to do everything like take the photos, 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:42.440 do the design. And then I think maybe in the 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:47.160 last years of my UNI it was really kind of 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.320 became a hobby. Then I was doing it for my friends, 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.800 and then it kind of naturally moved into my friends 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.080 having businesses and like kind of works that they were 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.720 doing and then would bring me on. So it was 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:03.360 really kind of time to build relationships, yeah, and then 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:10.120 slowly doing more and more and then kind of yeah, 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.240 then I kind of figured once I started making money 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.680 off her that it was a viable job option and 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.520 I could kind of make a little bit of money. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:24.080 Yeah, this sounds like a very natural progression, was there, Like, like, 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:28.480 was that the case or were you working towards being 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:30.560 where you are right now? Well? 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.000 I think yeah. I mean for a lot of people, 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:35.560 at the end of UNI you kind of realize you 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:39.480 hate your degree, Oh you never want to do it again. 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.720 But I kind of done it and used my degree 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:47.400 five years after when I was working at AT and 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.120 then I just kind of got sick of it. And 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:55.240 then I knew that I enjoyed doing photos, but it 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:56.920 was kind of it took me a while to figure 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:00.640 out how to make money from it, but suaded it 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:05.160 was doing a lot of my personal projects, and yeah, 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:06.720 it's kind of blossom from there. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.240 Do you have a favorite, like personal project that you've 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:10.640 worked on. 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:16.920 Yeah, probably my favorite project is the front Yard, so 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.679 absolutely iconic. I feel like that was kind of the 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:25.679 one thing that it was a catalyst for all of 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.200 the work that I got after, Yeah, which is pretty cool. 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:33.960 And I think, especially when you're getting jobs, when they 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.199 reference your own work to kind of recreate is kind 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.760 of the best position you want to be in as 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:43.600 a photographer because then you're comfortable, you enjoy what you're doing, 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:47.000 and then you're getting paid for it and sometimes quite well. 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:51.959 Yeah. I feel like when I was younger, because I 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.559 was quite creative with acting and stuff, people like, oh, 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.480 there's like no money in it, but I feel like 0:11:56.520 --> 0:12:03.120 if you are actually good at it, actually go quite far. Yeah, 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:09.480 which is why I'm not acting. What was their journey 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.360 into freelance, Like is it. Do you have moments where 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:13.760 like I got no money? 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:15.560 Yeah, I'm like to my dad, can I pay my 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:16.319 ward next month? 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.880 Because people are either really good at paying invoices or 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.200 sometimes when you're working with the companies that only pay 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.560 on like a certain day of the month, and so 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.040 it can be so frustrating, very uncertain, and. 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.880 I think it's it's kind of you really have to 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:37.520 have not the heart, but like the drive to be 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:44.840 like that person. I'm still not that person, but but yeah, 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:50.760 some people pay. Smaller organizations are really good sometimes because 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.720 they just pay like the week of whatever. Some like 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:57.000 council ones will pay thirty days after delivery of service. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.720 So yeah, that must be tricky some week when you're like, 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.880 you know, trying to pay bond or like pictrol or 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:04.600 things like that. 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.520 Yeah, well only recently. Picture. I just got a car 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:16.640 like this year and I got into a car crash. 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.760 I saw that I wanted some message because I am 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:24.920 a car crash victim but perpetrator. Yeah. 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:31.920 Hey, like you were driving recently and Marena literally almost 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:35.000 killed us. It was like did you see that car? 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:36.679 And I was like, I'm the best. 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:39.200 I'm not supposed to see ship. 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:41.120 Are you okay? 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:41.319 Though? 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:42.319 That's really awful. 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:46.439 I rear ended someone sells my fault and then what 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:47.040 was it busy? 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:48.240 Yeah? 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.640 Kind of was it? No, it was in green lane. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:53.880 I was gonna say I could excuse it if it was, 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.360 because I feel like people in Ringwa are crazy when 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:02.280 it comes to driving drivers. Just wait, this is not 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:03.160 to do with driving. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:03.760 Ben. 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.719 You recently put on your story something about like a 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:11.480 dog a dog like, just resonde it with me, because 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.640 money dealer is just filled with straight dogs and it's 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:15.439 really scary. 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:16.120 Yeah. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:18.720 I've been trying to do my tin k steps. I 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.840 love that, but you just can't walk around like south 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.920 in general. The more you the dogs are out on 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:29.400 their tin k steps as well. I don't know. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:30.560 I just can't drive. 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.760 I don't know. Maybe it's like a whole conspiracy to 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.680 get people to buy gym membership. 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.880 City for. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:46.440 Oh Man Jiff. Do you see yourself staying in freelance 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:47.320 work for a while. 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.720 Yeah, I think at this point I gave myself a 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.280 year to like figure it out, beautiful, and then if 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:54.920 I really want to do I actually in you to 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.240 a job the other week, and then I was like 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.480 I don't want to come back like one you've left 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.640 like corporate nine to five, like in an office, and 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:06.240 you're creative, like you try your best to like not 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.560 ever stay out of it. Yeah, not because there's anything 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.200 wrong with it, but mostly because is the freedom to 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:18.000 like do a job at like on a Thursday afternoon. Yeah, 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:21.000 that'll pay you like well enough to like sustain you 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.080 a little bit. But yeah, I think the freedom that 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:29.520 freelancing gives me is probably the best pro in that situation. 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:33.920 But the cons come with it. Yeah. 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.120 When I think about your photography, you must have come 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:41.280 and it's a conversation with so many people from various 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.320 walks of life. It's one of your favorite parts of 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.040 the job, connecting with people and like hearing their stories. 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.400 Yeah, I think that's the main part of why why 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:54.520 I enjoy doing photography, especially the kind of round that 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:58.880 I do photography in. Yeah, the connecting with people so 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:04.240 like the best part because you might have not known 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:08.720 them like beforehand and you're just rocking up to their house. 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:14.040 But like I think, especially as a specific photographer, it's 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:18.520 like you kind of know how to navigate that. Yeah, 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.840 taking off your shoes at the door, you know, like 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.640 rereading them or like things around that nature I think 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:29.960 have really helped me. But yeah, I think people are 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:31.200 the best thing about the job. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.800 You know, what does your own family think about your 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:36.640 creative career. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.400 They're like, why do you take betters of us? 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:46.480 See did you go to someone family photos? 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.320 They were, Yeah, yeah, I'm the designative family photographer now. 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:55.360 But yeah, I mean my family they're real. I think 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:58.280 there's quite a few of us that are freelancing. So 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:02.920 nice a cousin, a videographer, So shout out to Carlin 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:10.520 his heaps. But I think people like him have been 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.160 like really good to have in the family. So there's 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:18.800 different kind of pathways to like making money and the 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.720 success in that as well. Yeah, yeah, but they're all good. 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:25.480 They just are. He's asking why there's no portrait. 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:29.359 Walls in the house not filled up. 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:36.639 It's just out of my friend's art. 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.119 If one of my favorite things that you've done is 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:44.240 with love from South Cool. Yeah, I am lend it 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.080 such a cool project. And am I right that it 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.639 initially started as just like jumpers with the area code? 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:51.639 Oh well it actually started at UNI. 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:52.600 Oh okay, cool. 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:56.560 Yes, it was kind of my final year project and 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:00.119 it was I was doing. I think the purpose of 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:03.240 it was like making postcards from South Aukland, so that's 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:07.360 so cool. Making it a destination so kind of where 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:13.320 to eat were the sharp So yeah, it was start 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.240 off was that, and then after UNI kind of picked 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:19.400 it up again in its area code crew next part. 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:25.520 I sold like six hundred of them around the world somewhere, 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.240 So it's kind of cool seeing that. I think some 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.879 of my friends saw it in like Melbourne or in 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.800 Australia and I'm like, oh cool, that's how powerful, like 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:37.359 the connection is to home. 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:38.040 Yeah. 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:42.240 Absolutely, And my flatmate recently celebrated her birthday and her 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.760 best mate got her a Creunick and conversation to me, 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:48.400 my flatmate was like, man, I've always wanted one of these, 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.520 Like this is such a dope gift. So for your 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:54.000 products to be referenced in that way, it's. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.359 Yeah, yeah, I mean it's really cool to see. And 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:59.200 I think the simplicity of it, like seeing the numbers 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:03.399 is really what community is about. Like yeah, and having 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.240 you know, like seeing someone with a even a two 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:11.439 seam five like threats and netmakeout two five MANGI like 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:13.120 those are real cool to have as well. I think 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.919 those things are like signals for people. They're like, well 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:19.960 from the same place. Yeah, that's cool, And I think, 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:23.840 well he need is like a nod and it's kind of. 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:28.919 Like a mutual like yeah, so cool. It's kind of 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.080 transitioning into like an online archive in some ways, Like 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.800 what's kind of the motivation behind that? 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.879 Yeah, well I think yeah, I think we'd love some 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:44.320 from South as if anything like a creative kind of archive. 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:48.040 So a lot of photography. So I've been on the 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.639 Auckland Libraries here its collection with site and it's so cool, 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.639 like your scroll for ages, Yeah, you're just looking at 0:19:55.680 --> 0:20:00.240 images from the past on things, you know. Now there's 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.080 a cool image of Mangi Bridge being built, like all 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.159 the construction and I kind of skip pass all the 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:15.520 war memorial stuff, but seeing like Pacific people and especially 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.720 like people protesting issues that were protesting still today like 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:22.760 nuclear and the Pacific people already doing it there, teachers strike. 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:26.080 So it's really cool. Like and if you're ever like 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:30.200 have the time to scroll on that site, might even 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:34.640 find your family because school photos like school sports teams 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:35.280 on the as well. 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:36.280 Free y. 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:37.880 Yeah. 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.480 One thing that I recently found because I'm doing a 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:42.199 lot of research for the Coppa but that we're doing 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:45.840 a Payton Great South around like the history of Great 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:47.720 South Road and the building of Great South Road. But 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:51.080 there's like a function where you can search what your 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:56.920 street name means, so like you like what the background is. 0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.600 So there's like streets and money Dealers. I'm like, why 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.840 the is that called arts? Like what does that? And 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.960 it's like named after the developer who like made, I 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:07.520 don't know, built the houses on the street. You know, 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:09.760 like it's just cool stuff like that. And I feel 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:13.199 like the photos and from South learning more about like 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.480 your sense of place are so important to understanding like 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:18.480 the history where you're from. They help you kind of 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.320 build your identity around like these things. But my favorite 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:23.640 thing is looking at like old pictures of money Dealer. Yeah, 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:26.560