1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: From man who seems to have a lot of portfolios 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: that require a lot of change. Simian Brown strikes again. 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: This time aviation airlines are going to be required to 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: give monthly reports on flight delays and cancelations as well 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: as the fares they're charging. Transport Minister Simmy and Brown 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: with us good morning. 7 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: Good morning. 8 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: As regards aviation, there several moving parts of this will 9 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: work our way through it. In general, how much does 10 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: the sector need a shake up? 11 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: Oh, look, I think coming out of COVID, the sector 12 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: is needing a shakeup in terms of whether it's CIA 13 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: needing to be back on to on time performance. When 14 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: it comes to as fset qs certifying their clients. In 15 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: regards to aviation bodies who are trying to get licenses 16 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: defy into business in New Zealand, I think it's getting 17 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: too hard. So we need them to be actually more 18 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: responsive to the needs of our industry. And also we 19 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 2: need airlines to be making sure that they're actually operating 20 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: on time and there's more transparency around price. So yesterday's 21 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: announcements we're all around saying, look, we've come through COVID. 22 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: We know it's been tough, but actually aviation plays a 23 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: critical role in our economy and we need to get 24 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: competitive player and every single part of the industry needs 25 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: to be doing. It's a bit government and industry, so 26 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: sure we are a competitive country to do business with 27 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: and to grow the. 28 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: Secret All right, we'll get to the planes in a moment. 29 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: As regards the CIA, all their problems, their fees and culture, 30 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: are they. 31 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: Up to it. Well, we've replaced the board. We've put 32 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: a new board in place with some red experienced people 33 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: there to help bride those outcomes around on time performance 34 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: for air seek, making sure that we have a much 35 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: faster certification time frames for aviation players in New Zealand, 36 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: and also to address some of those challenges that have 37 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: been in the media around culture. So new board, they've 38 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: got a very clear task as to what they need 39 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 2: to do and they certainly up to it to make 40 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: those changes. 41 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: All right, the planes when they report and say that 42 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: that ex procedage didn't turn up on time, then what happens, Well, 43 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: obviously it's. 44 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: About public reporting. It's about providing transparency that we don't 45 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: have at this stage. So this is sort of what 46 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: we're doing at this stage, just saying, look, more transparency 47 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: We're not paying any anything further in beyond that at 48 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: this stage. But I think the first step is in 49 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: public want to see is what is the actual on 50 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: time performance of airlines in New Zealand. So that's what 51 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: the Ministry of Transport. They're already collecting the data. They're 52 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: going to be publishing the first report next month to 53 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: help provide that transparency and as I said, also looking 54 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: at getting greater transparency around airfares so the public can 55 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: actually understand what are the prices that people are paying now. 56 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: But once you've got that transparency and I tell you 57 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: it's too expensive and they're a crap airline, are we 58 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: going to do anything about it or just put up 59 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: with it? 60 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 2: Well, I think then we can look at what other 61 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: options there are that we can look at that stage, 62 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: and Australia has been looking at this, United States has. 63 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: But I think the first step which we've here is 64 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: that you when you start publishing that data. Many countries 65 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: have been doing this since the nineteen nineties and we 66 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: need to catch that all. 67 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: Right, appreciate it. Simy and Brown Aviation Aviation Minister, Transport 68 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: Minister 69 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: For more from the MIC asking Breakfast Listen live to 70 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 71 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: the podcast on radio